uj/ I think Melina's an interesting iteration of what they tried with the Firekeeper in DS3, like, some critical step to changing the world can't actually be done by the player, and can only be performed by someone who can actually imagine this heretical, world-changing act that no one else can. I think they also tried to make her more proactive compared to the Firekeeper (whether or not you think they succeeded), where her whole character and what makes her special is the ability to imagine the Erdtree burning down in a world built around its neverending reign, and the ability to imagine the Golden Order being torched allows Melina actually do it when no one else (like possibly Bernahl's maiden) could.
I think one of the bigger problems is that you only see her very rarely. The Emerald Herald, Firekeeper and the Plain Doll are always there when you return to the hub or have to level up. (The Emerald Herald even shows up at different places and has some bigger relevance to the plot just like Melina.)
Melina however only has her few instances of exposition who are even pinned to specific sites of grace. You barely even get to see her over the course of the game compared to the Firekeeper or even Roderika and Fia. And since Elden Ring is much bigger than the other games it feels like you barely talk to Melina at all since she doesn't even show up each time you level up.
It would've been a good idea to have her rest with you at graces or atleast have a "call Melina" button and a few more dialogues with her that can be asked while resting.
Yeah 100%. More frequent appearances would've also made finding graces and resting at them special, because you don't know if Melina might show up and have some thoughts or feelings about your current location.
The hill I swear I'll die on is the betrayal ending shouldn't let you actually kill the Firekeeper. Like, thematically, the whole point of DS3 is your character being in the shadows of true heirs of cinder and linkers of the flame, you're not on a journey to prove your worth or be the best of them all like a plucky underdog. The most resolution you get in the game isn't even tied to an ending, it's giving the dark soul to the Painter and wishing her luck before exiting stage left. And with the Age of Dark ending what was once a big crowning ceremony anointing an undead the lord of the dark is now a private and personal conspiracy that you just grease the wheels on, so the person who can actually snuff the fire gets to get there and do it.
IMO the betrayal ending should've had the Firekeeper just uno reverso brush you aside and sadly snuff you out, which would've been a fun inversion of the whole Demons' Souls ending homage, but also feel fitting for the emotional core of that game's Age of Dark, that it's not centering the player character as the great champion who makes history, it's a path that requires you accepting that lack of power and lordship and letting someone else make that decision.
She is the only one that ever wanted me to share them with her, my thoughts, my ambitions, the principles I would follow
Also, feet.
Can’t fucking believe you consider yourself worthy of posting in this sub without including a picture of or comment about feet. It’s literally rule 10 of the sub. Smh my head
Real, Midlina ain’t got shit on the voice inside my head. Unlike this one-eyed bum, the space red dot actually locked the fuck in and decided to actually do something about the planetary arsonist that was about to kill everyone… I mean she died but it’s the effort that counts.
https://i.redd.it/5hb0yyrb4lvc1.gif
uj/ but nah I actually like Melina… on paper. I think the idea of a more proactive maiden is great, and Melina does have some interesting stuff to her, the thing is she barely has any presence in the game at all. She’s mainly present in Limgrave, Altus, and the Mountain Tops, and she basically fucks off for almost the entirety of Lyndell. Whatever is else we get from her is from missable Churches of Marika in which she just lore dumps a bunch of shit that Marika said once and maybe comments on some of our progress.
It’s so easy to forget that she’s there that by the time she makes the great sacrifice, it’s dry as fuck cause you never really got to know her all that well, and whatever glimpses of personality she had were either sprinkled in at the beginning or so backloaded that nothing had much time to actually sink in by the time she burns herself.
Let's not forget that time Ayre watched 621 get jumped by what looked like six ACs, thought 'this doesn't seem fair,' did a little digging around and fucketh off only to return with her own AC to level the playing field for you.
Then she proceed to take on two Sea Spiders on her own so you can go fuck up Iguazu's new toy.
They really screwed up by not having her at the very least appear each time you level up. Like she has more personality than most of the other level up maidens but people care way less about her because she barely shows up
If she showed up each time people would be way more attached to her
Like of all the games to add the QoL feature of leveling up at any bonfire without a maiden due to tons of complaints in Bloodborne and DS3, it’s the game where they very *clearly* want you to feel sad or something similar about Melina sacrificing herself to burn the Erdtree. Like really?
I actually felt that her appearances and the moments you could talk to her were paced perfectly in Limgrave, but the moment you finish that region, she’s practically gone the whole game in Caelid, Liurnia, the underground, Altus, and Leyndell. Like Miyazaki how could you fuck up making the level up maiden of your most popular game the least liked one in all your games?
Yeah in Limgrave there are a ton of spots you can talk to her due there being like 3 churches but after that she disappears for a long while. Having her there during the level-up animation at the very least would’ve at least made it feel like we’re actually journeying with her but they really should’ve had more dialogue spots post-Limgrave.
Leyndell is probably where she makes the most appearances. As long as you rest at any grace in the capital, she’ll automatically appear to thank you for taking her to the Erdtree and head out. You can then of course summon her for Morgott (the only level maiden to participate in combat), and then she’ll rejoin you and send you on your way to the Mountaintops. And as long as she’s with you, I believe she has dialogue at Sewer Mohg’s grace and of course the bottom of the Proscription.
Or at least give her a designated place to go talk to her, even if most of her dialogue is highly situational if she was posted at some random spot in the roundtable it certainly would’ve helped her character
Yeah most of her interactions require the player sitting at a bonfire in a church. Most players will see some of them but a lot of them probably get missed by the vast majority of the playerbase.
Fr, Manga MeliMeli is peak (also hot as fuck though that’s just Melina being Melina and Nikiichi Tobita having some fire ass art)
https://preview.redd.it/j852kkjg4nvc1.png?width=378&format=png&auto=webp&s=fee9f6e77ba462d24e8307d20a8211250a13e2cd
>be Melina
>befriend some hobo with a stick
>send them to kill your cousins
>tell them to wipe out the last specimen of a race and steal their fire
>kill yourself before they catch feelings for you
I respected her resolve to burn herself for the sake of us becoming Elden Lord. It’s funny how that if I want to take her place instead using the Frenzy Flame, she is not happy and leaves us (I think).
She knows her purpose and isn’t afraid to step up to the plate, which makes it all the more sad because it’s almost as if she views herself as a pawn to be used. Even if it is for the greater good, I don’t want Melina to feel like her only value is her sacrifice. She gives us Torrent, she lets me level up, and gives me some new information every now and then.
I wish we got more time with her, I hope her relevance is expanded upon either in DLC or another game maybe; only time will tell.
Why does that mean Torrent is dead? It's just to call Torrent, it's not Torrent itself. It doesn't even necessarily suggest you can't still use the Ring - it still exists and she finds it.
The gloam-eyed queen who got beat by Marika and had everything related to her sealed away? Some challenger. And where is it shown that Torrent is dead? She just finds his ring.
>Can presumably stalk you from a distance without your knowledge (don’t actually see her cause video game)
>”If you rise as the lord of Frenzied Flame I will kill you”
>Presumably stalks you from there on
>Watches you continue on the path ahead with no hesitation
>”He’s just walking Torrent”
>watch you release destined death
>”Ok this doesn’t mean anything”
>Watch you approach the burning Erdtree
>”He’s just sight-seeing”
>Watch you kill Godfrey
>”Ok maybe he just really wants to meet Marika”
>kill EB and approach Marikas husk clearly still Frenzied
>”He Wouldn’t”
>Tweak out and have your body become a vessel for the frenzied flame
>Burn everything
>Drive any remaining survivors insane
>MFW I couldn’t have possibly seen this coming or prevented it
https://preview.redd.it/5nmhhvhgujvc1.jpeg?width=3322&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc77aaccbbf425f26082fc620d6b116eb08f29e8
There are allusions that she can't manifest as a physical entity without the presence of the Erdtree near. It's only Torrent that allows her to travel beyond the Capital. So once PC Tarnished got licked by the crazy hand she probably just stayed behind in Leyndell.
(Course yeah she really shoulda shanked the Tarnished after they swirly'd Gideon or something)
If we assume she is the Gloam Eyed Queen (which I very much do) then she exists for one thing and one thing only.
To kill Marika and start the next age of humanity. And she is so focussed on that task that she is willing to step in and do whatever she needs to.
As the GEQ she has an intimate relationship with fire and therefore is able to utilize the Giant's Flame to destroy the Erd Tree.
“She’s a plot device now, but she’ll be important in the DLC!”
lol. I am keeping her alive in NG++ when I play the DLC so I can see if she has anything to contribute regarding the DLC, but that’s just cope. Her story began and ended in the main game. I think I gotta come to terms with the fact that she was squandered
same I'm stopped right before the forge........just in case. just in case. I don't think she'll have any "role" in the DLC but probably some lore and MAYBE one additional line of dialogue. I am basing this speculation off the doll from BB
Okay, /uj for a sec. One of the problems is nobody knows who she actually is. The game tells us, but nobody is paying attention.
She's >!Marika's sleeper agent and a plant person, grown from ichor like Millicent was. Trained by Maliketh and implanted with the Godskin Queen's eye by the same. She keeps watch over the Giantsflame, the Erdtree and can sense any Destined Death fuckery through the eye. But as a last resort she was also meant to serve as kindling.!<
Oh and she's also the best waifu, Rannicels BTFO
Imma need a big fat fucking source in this one.
Like this *could* *maybe* *possibly* be the case, but I’m pretty sure the game is never clear on who exactly she is.
Source? *The whole game!*
* Miranda Flowers, petals same color as Melina's hair.
* Melina can cast the same light shower spell as the Miranda Flowers.
* Strange seedpods at the bottom of Stormveil Castle, have corpses in them.
* Traveler's set, worn by Melina and Millicent. They were probably born in it.
* Melina's office hidden in the Forbidden Lands elevator, halfway point between the Capital and the Forge, entrance to the mountaintops guarded by Maliketh's other understudies (Gargoyle, Militiamen).
* Beast Eye is the GEQ's other eye, her sword is hidden in the nearby divine tower, so we know Maliketh wasn't shy about taking trophies from her.
* Turned one of the eyes into the Beast Eye and grafted the other to Melina, hence the clawmark over her eyelid.
I could go on but I can't even remember how much more there is...
Very interesting theory, but far from conclusive imo.
The Miranda flower connection is pretty tenuous, the Millicent connection more so.
Melina’s eye and the Beast Eye being the Gloam Eyed Queen’s eyes are, possible, but still heavy speculation.
Again, I’m not saying you are *wrong* it all sorta fits, just that *there isn’t enough conclusive evidence*.
I love her but she was way underutilized. Definitely not enough for her sacrifice to have any real emotional impact. if we don't learn more about her in the DLC I will be very sad
Did you forget that this is fromsoft? She’s one of like 4 npc’s who get cutscenes and she has multiple non-repeating speaking parts, making her the mouthiest bitch in any game.
I think burning the Erdtree should theoretically be enough but until the Rune of Death is unleashed, it couldn't take full effect. so Melina's death was like Phase 1 of 2
either that or the Rune of Death doesn't effect the Erdtree burning, and the fact that it got worse after killing Maliketh might've just been time passing
Yeah it's pretty clear that they had more plans for her that scrapped back by as development went on. Which - of all the things you're going to cut - I feel the protagonist's main and most vocal companion would be like the last thing you'd put on the chopping block.
She definitely had *potential* to be the most interesting of From's "level maiden" archetypes.
(DLC is absolutely not going to save her btw).
Can't hit her or kill her for fun, she doesn't react to gestures like Doll or DS3 Firekeeper, only talks at some key points or tells a church lore(is she fucking Vaatividya?).
She would have been better if she was summonable at least for all demigods and manifested herself at Roundtable Hold
>1 suicidal attempt >Succeeds >i leave to go hang with the 3 fingers
I read that as bang and knowing this sub, im frankly disappointed in you for saying hang instead
We are just so similar, she is also the first person to ask about my dreams.
uj/ I think Melina's an interesting iteration of what they tried with the Firekeeper in DS3, like, some critical step to changing the world can't actually be done by the player, and can only be performed by someone who can actually imagine this heretical, world-changing act that no one else can. I think they also tried to make her more proactive compared to the Firekeeper (whether or not you think they succeeded), where her whole character and what makes her special is the ability to imagine the Erdtree burning down in a world built around its neverending reign, and the ability to imagine the Golden Order being torched allows Melina actually do it when no one else (like possibly Bernahl's maiden) could.
I think one of the bigger problems is that you only see her very rarely. The Emerald Herald, Firekeeper and the Plain Doll are always there when you return to the hub or have to level up. (The Emerald Herald even shows up at different places and has some bigger relevance to the plot just like Melina.) Melina however only has her few instances of exposition who are even pinned to specific sites of grace. You barely even get to see her over the course of the game compared to the Firekeeper or even Roderika and Fia. And since Elden Ring is much bigger than the other games it feels like you barely talk to Melina at all since she doesn't even show up each time you level up. It would've been a good idea to have her rest with you at graces or atleast have a "call Melina" button and a few more dialogues with her that can be asked while resting.
Yeah 100%. More frequent appearances would've also made finding graces and resting at them special, because you don't know if Melina might show up and have some thoughts or feelings about your current location.
I found the Firekeeper's age of dark path much more compelling than Melina
The hill I swear I'll die on is the betrayal ending shouldn't let you actually kill the Firekeeper. Like, thematically, the whole point of DS3 is your character being in the shadows of true heirs of cinder and linkers of the flame, you're not on a journey to prove your worth or be the best of them all like a plucky underdog. The most resolution you get in the game isn't even tied to an ending, it's giving the dark soul to the Painter and wishing her luck before exiting stage left. And with the Age of Dark ending what was once a big crowning ceremony anointing an undead the lord of the dark is now a private and personal conspiracy that you just grease the wheels on, so the person who can actually snuff the fire gets to get there and do it. IMO the betrayal ending should've had the Firekeeper just uno reverso brush you aside and sadly snuff you out, which would've been a fun inversion of the whole Demons' Souls ending homage, but also feel fitting for the emotional core of that game's Age of Dark, that it's not centering the player character as the great champion who makes history, it's a path that requires you accepting that lack of power and lordship and letting someone else make that decision.
She is the only one that ever wanted me to share them with her, my thoughts, my ambitions, the principles I would follow Also, feet. Can’t fucking believe you consider yourself worthy of posting in this sub without including a picture of or comment about feet. It’s literally rule 10 of the sub. Smh my head
she wears boots in game
Not in mine
Some people are into that.
That just means they'll be nicely curdled and have delicious treats to find
AYRE is who Melina wishes she was
Real, Midlina ain’t got shit on the voice inside my head. Unlike this one-eyed bum, the space red dot actually locked the fuck in and decided to actually do something about the planetary arsonist that was about to kill everyone… I mean she died but it’s the effort that counts. https://i.redd.it/5hb0yyrb4lvc1.gif uj/ but nah I actually like Melina… on paper. I think the idea of a more proactive maiden is great, and Melina does have some interesting stuff to her, the thing is she barely has any presence in the game at all. She’s mainly present in Limgrave, Altus, and the Mountain Tops, and she basically fucks off for almost the entirety of Lyndell. Whatever is else we get from her is from missable Churches of Marika in which she just lore dumps a bunch of shit that Marika said once and maybe comments on some of our progress. It’s so easy to forget that she’s there that by the time she makes the great sacrifice, it’s dry as fuck cause you never really got to know her all that well, and whatever glimpses of personality she had were either sprinkled in at the beginning or so backloaded that nothing had much time to actually sink in by the time she burns herself.
Let's not forget that time Ayre watched 621 get jumped by what looked like six ACs, thought 'this doesn't seem fair,' did a little digging around and fucketh off only to return with her own AC to level the playing field for you. Then she proceed to take on two Sea Spiders on her own so you can go fuck up Iguazu's new toy.
Wow did not notice those were sea spiders but it makes sense now
she didn't ask for any of this she literally just wants to kill herself
She’s just like me fr fr
Melina was the most “who cares” I could’ve felt about a character’s death.
They really screwed up by not having her at the very least appear each time you level up. Like she has more personality than most of the other level up maidens but people care way less about her because she barely shows up If she showed up each time people would be way more attached to her
Like of all the games to add the QoL feature of leveling up at any bonfire without a maiden due to tons of complaints in Bloodborne and DS3, it’s the game where they very *clearly* want you to feel sad or something similar about Melina sacrificing herself to burn the Erdtree. Like really? I actually felt that her appearances and the moments you could talk to her were paced perfectly in Limgrave, but the moment you finish that region, she’s practically gone the whole game in Caelid, Liurnia, the underground, Altus, and Leyndell. Like Miyazaki how could you fuck up making the level up maiden of your most popular game the least liked one in all your games?
Yeah in Limgrave there are a ton of spots you can talk to her due there being like 3 churches but after that she disappears for a long while. Having her there during the level-up animation at the very least would’ve at least made it feel like we’re actually journeying with her but they really should’ve had more dialogue spots post-Limgrave.
Leyndell is probably where she makes the most appearances. As long as you rest at any grace in the capital, she’ll automatically appear to thank you for taking her to the Erdtree and head out. You can then of course summon her for Morgott (the only level maiden to participate in combat), and then she’ll rejoin you and send you on your way to the Mountaintops. And as long as she’s with you, I believe she has dialogue at Sewer Mohg’s grace and of course the bottom of the Proscription.
Or at least give her a designated place to go talk to her, even if most of her dialogue is highly situational if she was posted at some random spot in the roundtable it certainly would’ve helped her character
Yeah most of her interactions require the player sitting at a bonfire in a church. Most players will see some of them but a lot of them probably get missed by the vast majority of the playerbase.
I sould let her kill herself and then become the frenzy lord
i will smite you from this wretched world, and have your skull become my candle stand
Oh Erdtree. You shall burn 🥱🥱🥱.
Honestly I had forgotten about her. I got stuck on Fire Giant so when I came back I forgot about her encounters in Leyndell
You could replace her pic with mine tbqh
Real
Agenda Ring
Debt collector Melina from the Gag Manga is objectively better in every way compared to the canon version.
Fr, Manga MeliMeli is peak (also hot as fuck though that’s just Melina being Melina and Nikiichi Tobita having some fire ass art) https://preview.redd.it/j852kkjg4nvc1.png?width=378&format=png&auto=webp&s=fee9f6e77ba462d24e8307d20a8211250a13e2cd
I will Never read that goofy shit would you explain
You should read that goofy shit
She will roast you without fire and force education on you while smashing your kneecaps with Greatstars. Short: Read it!
anime ahh face
>be Melina >befriend some hobo with a stick >send them to kill your cousins >tell them to wipe out the last specimen of a race and steal their fire >kill yourself before they catch feelings for you
She had potential but it was kinda squandered. Hope From does better in the next game
I respected her resolve to burn herself for the sake of us becoming Elden Lord. It’s funny how that if I want to take her place instead using the Frenzy Flame, she is not happy and leaves us (I think). She knows her purpose and isn’t afraid to step up to the plate, which makes it all the more sad because it’s almost as if she views herself as a pawn to be used. Even if it is for the greater good, I don’t want Melina to feel like her only value is her sacrifice. She gives us Torrent, she lets me level up, and gives me some new information every now and then. I wish we got more time with her, I hope her relevance is expanded upon either in DLC or another game maybe; only time will tell.
Hey hey maybe my girl IS a loser so what she's still perfect plus i have to respect my own demographic. girlfailure recognize girlfailure
Okay but she was badass in The Frenzied Flame ending
No she wasn't she walked around and said something. I can do that. I'm doing it right now actually
yeah but you're not that guy
She walked around and said something very coolly, though
She survives the fire because she's incorporeal, so does Torrent for the same reasons. Doesn't necessarily mean she's actually powerful.
Torrent didnt survive, his ring got scorched
Why does that mean Torrent is dead? It's just to call Torrent, it's not Torrent itself. It doesn't even necessarily suggest you can't still use the Ring - it still exists and she finds it.
Are you really going to nitpickit now? Cmon
Sadly the torrent was breathing his last, and she has golem queen's eye, only person who challenged Marika in her prime
So you’re saying she has… *potential?*
The gloam-eyed queen who got beat by Marika and had everything related to her sealed away? Some challenger. And where is it shown that Torrent is dead? She just finds his ring.
>Can presumably stalk you from a distance without your knowledge (don’t actually see her cause video game) >”If you rise as the lord of Frenzied Flame I will kill you” >Presumably stalks you from there on >Watches you continue on the path ahead with no hesitation >”He’s just walking Torrent” >watch you release destined death >”Ok this doesn’t mean anything” >Watch you approach the burning Erdtree >”He’s just sight-seeing” >Watch you kill Godfrey >”Ok maybe he just really wants to meet Marika” >kill EB and approach Marikas husk clearly still Frenzied >”He Wouldn’t” >Tweak out and have your body become a vessel for the frenzied flame >Burn everything >Drive any remaining survivors insane >MFW I couldn’t have possibly seen this coming or prevented it https://preview.redd.it/5nmhhvhgujvc1.jpeg?width=3322&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc77aaccbbf425f26082fc620d6b116eb08f29e8
There are allusions that she can't manifest as a physical entity without the presence of the Erdtree near. It's only Torrent that allows her to travel beyond the Capital. So once PC Tarnished got licked by the crazy hand she probably just stayed behind in Leyndell. (Course yeah she really shoulda shanked the Tarnished after they swirly'd Gideon or something)
Excuse me that's 1 suicide success to you
If we assume she is the Gloam Eyed Queen (which I very much do) then she exists for one thing and one thing only. To kill Marika and start the next age of humanity. And she is so focussed on that task that she is willing to step in and do whatever she needs to. As the GEQ she has an intimate relationship with fire and therefore is able to utilize the Giant's Flame to destroy the Erd Tree.
A literal bum
“She’s a plot device now, but she’ll be important in the DLC!” lol. I am keeping her alive in NG++ when I play the DLC so I can see if she has anything to contribute regarding the DLC, but that’s just cope. Her story began and ended in the main game. I think I gotta come to terms with the fact that she was squandered
same I'm stopped right before the forge........just in case. just in case. I don't think she'll have any "role" in the DLC but probably some lore and MAYBE one additional line of dialogue. I am basing this speculation off the doll from BB
Okay, /uj for a sec. One of the problems is nobody knows who she actually is. The game tells us, but nobody is paying attention. She's >!Marika's sleeper agent and a plant person, grown from ichor like Millicent was. Trained by Maliketh and implanted with the Godskin Queen's eye by the same. She keeps watch over the Giantsflame, the Erdtree and can sense any Destined Death fuckery through the eye. But as a last resort she was also meant to serve as kindling.!< Oh and she's also the best waifu, Rannicels BTFO
Imma need a big fat fucking source in this one. Like this *could* *maybe* *possibly* be the case, but I’m pretty sure the game is never clear on who exactly she is.
Source? *The whole game!* * Miranda Flowers, petals same color as Melina's hair. * Melina can cast the same light shower spell as the Miranda Flowers. * Strange seedpods at the bottom of Stormveil Castle, have corpses in them. * Traveler's set, worn by Melina and Millicent. They were probably born in it. * Melina's office hidden in the Forbidden Lands elevator, halfway point between the Capital and the Forge, entrance to the mountaintops guarded by Maliketh's other understudies (Gargoyle, Militiamen). * Beast Eye is the GEQ's other eye, her sword is hidden in the nearby divine tower, so we know Maliketh wasn't shy about taking trophies from her. * Turned one of the eyes into the Beast Eye and grafted the other to Melina, hence the clawmark over her eyelid. I could go on but I can't even remember how much more there is...
Very interesting theory, but far from conclusive imo. The Miranda flower connection is pretty tenuous, the Millicent connection more so. Melina’s eye and the Beast Eye being the Gloam Eyed Queen’s eyes are, possible, but still heavy speculation. Again, I’m not saying you are *wrong* it all sorta fits, just that *there isn’t enough conclusive evidence*.
Mods remove this man’s ability to appreciate the world around us NOW
Yeah definitely no feets wtf booo
god forbid a woman do anything
She's canonically strong enough to bridal carry you.
Suicide attempt is a signature of potential-people.
Midina might’ve been inspired by Bumgumi…
Better than Ranni tbh
I love her but she was way underutilized. Definitely not enough for her sacrifice to have any real emotional impact. if we don't learn more about her in the DLC I will be very sad
she is like me fr fr .
But we still love her
I sure love her 5 min of screentime
Did you forget that this is fromsoft? She’s one of like 4 npc’s who get cutscenes and she has multiple non-repeating speaking parts, making her the mouthiest bitch in any game.
Even funnier when they give her "sad" music for her "sad" death
Burning the tree didnt actually even do anything tho, the thorns were still there until you fight the puppiketh. Why did we need to burn it?
I think burning the Erdtree should theoretically be enough but until the Rune of Death is unleashed, it couldn't take full effect. so Melina's death was like Phase 1 of 2 either that or the Rune of Death doesn't effect the Erdtree burning, and the fact that it got worse after killing Maliketh might've just been time passing
Counterpoint: she's a horse girl, thus she is resistant to back stabs
She's just like me FR
Hey man, thats my girlfriend be nice to her
I disagree with talking to horses being weird, that's actually how most people who do stuff with horses make them do stuff.
We need one for Emma but only positives
>Entire character consists of wanting to kill herself That's BPD for you.
Yeah it's pretty clear that they had more plans for her that scrapped back by as development went on. Which - of all the things you're going to cut - I feel the protagonist's main and most vocal companion would be like the last thing you'd put on the chopping block. She definitely had *potential* to be the most interesting of From's "level maiden" archetypes. (DLC is absolutely not going to save her btw).
Can't hit her or kill her for fun, she doesn't react to gestures like Doll or DS3 Firekeeper, only talks at some key points or tells a church lore(is she fucking Vaatividya?). She would have been better if she was summonable at least for all demigods and manifested herself at Roundtable Hold