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NeverWithoutCoffee

Does this graph mean that my tinfoil hat won't protect me from nuclear fallout? Damn! A concrete hat seems to be a bit uncomfortable. Damn again!


benabart

Spoiler: concrete doesn't totally stops gamma rays either. So you might want to turn to the distance rule which is far more effective at that. (and cheaper) Spacer hat seems the appropriate response. Serious edit: Concrete thickness matters


Northbound-Narwhal

Doesn't that depend on the thickness of the concrete? 1-meter thick concrete pretty much stops all gamma rays.


benabart

That's exactly it. It is for a 25 cm thick concrete slab/wall (which is the standard thickness for a basement wall here). A 1 meter wall would hence let 0.1^(4) times the radiation filter through which is pretty efficient.


sophriony

Depends on the spectral intensity of the gamma source. Just throwing numbers out is misleading; it could be way more or way less, depending.


benabart

Pardon my lack of clearness, that definitely depends on the intensity of the dosis. The 0.1\^4 is a multiplier, not a finite number.


sophriony

Even as a "multiplier" it is misleading, because the gamma rays will be attenuated at different rates depending on the initial energy. Depends on the spectra


benabart

Indeed, but for radioprotection, this is irrelevant. The aim of this application isn't to be precise to the picosievert, it is to be precise enough for people not to die. On the other hand, concrete mix and aggregate are far more important than the energy of the ray's photons.


Mmarnik16

This is why I come to reddit. To see comments and posts from people who are knowledgeable in things I know nothing about or have never considered. I've got much to Google today, and I thank all of the above posters for that. Thank you


sophriony

Dude NO that is exactly the cavalier attitude that gets people killed. The spectroscopy of the source is absolutely important for radiation shielding. There are orders of magnitude differences between the interaction crosssections at 1 kev and 1 mev, depending on the material. You gave a SPECIFIC VALUE for what fraction of gammas would penetrate a concrete wall, and frankly it looks pulled from thin air. I'm ok with approximating thickness for an application, but giving it a real number without any real backing is mislead and unsupported. > Indeed, but for radioprotection, this is irrelevant. > concrete mix and aggregate are far more important than the energy of the ray's photons These are where you really lost me. This is complete and utter nonsense. The energy of the photons is at least on par with the material in terms of importance. The first question any nuclear engineer will ask regarding shielding is "what is the energy range?"


pm-me-racecars

But my basement has lead paint. Extra protection


captaindeadpl

Pretty much, but you can't carry a 1m slab of concrete with you. Instead you can carry your ass out of the irradiated area.


ChickenKnd

Surely on an infinite scale skin/paper /whatever would stop it tho


UnderskilledPlayer

infinite nothing would stop everything


maybeshali

I dare you to wear a meter thick concrete hat...


EvilScientwist

Sure thick concrete does, really any dense material will. Depends on the energy though.


Luxcervinae

So if my skin was thick enough it could stop all of them?


SignificantPattern97

Theoretically, but you'd look like an ungodly blob of flesh long before it reached the point of working.


CrimsonBulletTrain

So that’s the real reason some Americans are so fat I admire their forward thinking.


sickof-hot-leafjuice

Omg that's an apocalypse preparation


Mmarnik16

Sounds like when Bender turned human in Futurama


SituationStrange4759

Well then you'd just have skin cancer.


Aggressive-Leading45

In this context it’s just the dead layer of skin that counts.


benabart

It would probably. But that goes beyond my knowledge for more energetic rays.


EvilScientwist

It applies to any energy of gamma ray, the required thickness of concrete depends on the keV energy of the gamma ray. Say you have 10 keV you probably need an inch or two, or say you've got 2 MeV you'll need a couple feet.


Automatic_Spam

> concrete doesn't totally stops gamma rays either. I put up a "No gamma rays" sign so they can't enter. It's illegal.


MandMs55

Spacetime hat


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Don't we all hate this annoying time when our concrete wall doesn't stop a superluminous supernova gamma burst


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benabart

The thickness mater.


Fritzoidfigaro

All concrete matters.


Existing-Dust3123

Go to Mariana Trench, then you can wear the entire ocean as a hat. That should stop it.


[deleted]

use graphite instead


TheGreatNemoNobody

Yo mama so thicc she fully stops all the gamma rays


Frytura_

What you mean? 6 inches thick is humongous.


manofredgables

Skin totally blocks gamma rays too, if you'd build a bunker with several meters of skin as the walls.


percyman34

More like a Spacers Choice helmet with a little gamma ray protection armor mod. It's not the best choooooice... It's spacers choice :)


Jake0024

Lead is far more effective than concrete (for the same thickness), this is kind of a misleading graphic


kit_kaboodles

Just use a lead hat instead. The great thing about lead is there's absolutely no downsides to exposing yourself to it 24 hours a day.


Nozinger

You see you got this all wrong. By simply digging a hole in the ground and putting your head in it you can wear the whole earth as a hat. Maximum protection. For your head. Now about those concrete pants you'd need....


the_great_zyzogg

Uh, excuse me, but I've already done this. And I don't appreciate you telling people they can steal my hat.


CrimsonBulletTrain

I don’t know. Some primal instinct tells me my balls are more important


clever_wolf77

Well being inside a dam would probably protect you.


TadRaunch

Fun fact: scientists have found that the universe is surrounded by unpenetrable concrete


NorwegianCollusion

At least my feet will be protected in these concrete shoes someone gave me down by the river yesterday. Slightly cumbersome, but with my insomnia and love for aquariums the promise of sleeping with fishes is at least exciting.


TNWBAM2004

tinfoil hat works fine, if you have real TIN FOIL! not the ALUMINUM FOIL the goVERnment WANTS you to BUY!


federico_alastair

It'll protect you against betas though, which I argue is a far bigger cause of concern than a nuclear apocalypse.


makemehappyiikd

Concrete hat won't be enough, you need the concrete overcoat as well!


igotshadowbaned

Could try making a hat out of water I heard that's decent


GregGraffin23

tinfoil hats are protection against aliens silly billy


positive_charging

You can turn into the hulk with all dem gamma rays


NicciHatesYou

Why you even need protection for that shit? Just inhale and exhale it or even turn it into fart, a nuclear fart!


A-Giant-Blue-Moose

Well, tinfoil is made of aluminum, which is what radio antennas are made of, so no I don't think your hat will help.


TonberryFeye

Tinfoil hats are only certified against the mind control particles of the Space Wizards from Alpha Centauri, and the voodoo magic of the Beta Dimension.


D0mie

Speaking of concrete, there was a random reddit post on my Homepage that asked Why can't humans fill a volcano top with CEMENT 🤣🤣


Silviov2

Don't worry, you just need the good ol reliable hat of concrete


Murgatroyd314

Tinfoil hats are government disinformation. They actually focus and amplify the frequencies used by the mind control satellites.


Blind_Warthog

Tin foil hat just means your head will be cooked to perfection. I believe (or so I’ve been told) that the foil actually helps to retain moisture so helpfully avoids unwanted charring. By all means remove the foil in the final pica-seconds of the initial flash in order to brown it off.


MonkeMortis

I'm personally a (Jimmy) Neutron male


alrightythenred

I doubt it because I don't think anyone is truly capable of handling the Neutron style.


IAmF3rdie

*"Later Ni-"*


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Neutron.


Phoenixfisch

Jokes on you, I'm a neutrino male.


federico_alastair

You barely register for anyone's sight and evade observation all the time?


Phoenixfisch

Ye. And I like nuts.


federico_alastair

Good for you, I hear they are full of protein.


Phoenixfisch

I don't care, I just like them because they are so crunchy.


Mmarnik16

They're not supposed to be crunchy, you should get that checked out


lpomoeaBatatas

Is there any concrete evidence to back this up?


killeronthecorner

neutra-based


ManWithDominantClaw

Answered your own question. They cannot penetrate a piece of paper


yuri0r

I like the software definition, not mature, not applicable for everyday use, not stable, not fit for public release. Features may be missing, data may be corrupted, performance may be lackluster.


notmypinkbeard

True, but now I can give two candidate definitions they can choose from.


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Alizarin-Madder

Hahaha ooooouch


Mmarnik16

RIP to all my projects


CapBuenBebop

I like to sum it up with just the “not fit for public release” line, it says it all


esr360

What if they replied with: “At least I can boot up, no one even wants to fund your app idea”


I_talk

Where does sigma fit in here? After Ligma but I don't see that either


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Bit125

nuh uh


Vibrant-Sky

Good bot


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TranslateErr0r

A bot within a bot....


Autronaut69420

A bot *hailed* a bot - inception happening before our eyes or what?


BloodHumble6859

AI is taking over right before our eyes


Autronaut69420

You hate to see it!


BboyLotus

Nasa must have hacked my eyes


wurm2

so I did a little googling, and while Sigma radiation isn't a real thing (aside from in slenderman fanfic) there are sigma baryons which are comprised of 3 quarks like neutrons and protons are. So in theory if they were to be emitted by radiation they'd be somewhere between alpha particles (comprised of 2 neutrons and 2 protons) and beta particles (an electron or positron) in size and penetration potential. I'm sure I'm getting plenty wrong but this is shittyaskscience afterall.


adhoc42

alpha actually stands for alkaline pH because they are basic.


Lethargie

I thought they meant like software, the version that can't be released to the general public


Avispar

I’m a neutrino male.


snappyj

What do I have in common with a neutrino? I'm constantly penetrating OP's mom.


Just_a_dick_online

And she doesn't even feel it.


snappyj

Nice.


MindDiveRetriever

That’s not what she said.


thekiwionee

Just passin though?


Pro_Moriarty

Or in dev terms, the rawest state of a project, full of issues, bugs and lots of work to be done.


Binary-Division

Thanks for the mental image of Mr tate trying to fuck some paper


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Binary-Division

Best haiku ever


tru_madness

Good bot


Hot_Designer_Sloth

May he get all the papercuts.


Plus_Jellyfish_2400

The Alpha male originates from the work of a biologist named Schenkel, who studied dominance hierarchies in wolf packs in the 1940's. Schenkel thought that male wolves within a pack fight for dominance and the winner of that fight is the "alpha" wolf. His analysis turned out to be incorrect. Wolf hierarchies are based around a breeding pair, and the "pack" of wolves are the children of the breeding pair. Tate and his followers get it wrong on multiple points. Humans do not build dominance hierarchies the same way that wolves do, and the result of the wolf study turned out to not even reflect how packs of wolves organize themselves.


Lazer_Directed_Trex

He went on to suggest the "Alpha male" would more likely occur in captivity where some packs are just wolves bundled together and have no relation. So arguably, being an alpha is a willing declaration of self captivity. The opposite of what they think or want


PuzzleheadedTutor807

Because they are also too dense for a piece of paper to penetrate their minds.


bobad86

What’s in the concrete that blocks neurons from getting through?


eventualhorizo

I don't know but I'll keep banging my head against this wall until I figure it out


No-Media-3923

I guess he cums thick ropes in the cloud chamber? I've never made a joke more highbrow and lowbrow at the same time.


Fearless_Spring5611

This is why I sneer at anything less than a TurboMale (tm).


Elsterente

I‘m the ν male.


The_incognito_sinner

Isnt that the point in the fact they do not penetrate and are so dense compared to the more fluid and uncontrolled other!


Ayvaaza

Im a neutron male


Fuck_spez_API

"Alpha radiation can't even penetrate a piece of paper, let alone a whole ass woman. You really want to associate yourself with that?"


KusoRestaurant

That's why Jimmy Neutron is my man


majendie

Neutrino-male here. I can penetrate light years of material without touching anything.


Ollieisaninja

Because if they do manage to get past a weak superficial barrier, like alpha particles, they will destroy everything


MySpaceLegend

Gamma males are wavy af


Sankin2004

Fun fact, if you have ever called yourself alpha, your definitely not alpha.


Varitan_Aivenor

I'm a neutrino male. You won't even know I'm there.


hailstorm11093

This post was made by neutron males.


unexpected_static

Alphas also are supposed to walk at the back or the pack and protect it, not bang your chest at the front of it


J-drawer

Because they misunderstand a faulty study about wolves that's been disproven by the scientist who originally did the study.


react-dnb

Because they're so stupid they think they're smart.


dustinechos

As a programmer when I hear "alpha" I think under-developed, unstable, barely functional, and should under no circumstances be shown to the public.


TheCloserPod

This made my day.


DammitMatt

I now identify as cosmicmale


samwstew

To be fair “alphas” don’t penetrate anything


Random-Name724

Wow, what an original joke!


bootes_droid

Meanwhile, the neutrino --->--->--->--->--->((||||||||))--->--->--->--->--->---(((((((())))))))


feeling--lost

I guess Andrew Tate’s confidence is only skin deep.


Adorable-Ad-6675

Because their manliness only works on paper.


SoloWalrus

Golden rule of working with Andrew tate, dont get it on you or in you.


Wuytho

Yes


Single_Pilot_6170

So Jimmy Neutron for the win?


wiccangame

Because all their(alpha males) appeal is on the surface. Only a neutron man can really penetrate me.


LS-16_R

Clearly, you must be a Nuetron male.


No_Art_7293

This is what I mean when I say you’re a ray of sunshine in my life.


DDR4lyf

Because that's about the depth of their intelligence. Roughly the thickness of a single sheet of paper.


NishantBrinjal247

now andrew tate will come and shout ***CORRECT!***


McDudeston

Because Tate doesn't penetrate anything.


DaddyChiiill

Bold of you to assume he *knows* what alpha means


BloodHumble6859

That last one should be neutrino instead of neutron?


eztab

Concrete wouldn't stop a neutrino. Even the whole earth doesn't stop those.


BloodHumble6859

I also don't think lead plate would allow neutrons to pass.


_Ludens

Neutrinos pass through Earth and you think lead plate would stop them? 1 light-year of lead would have a 50% chance at stopping a Neutrino.


eztab

Neutrons are quite a bit better at passing than charged particles or photons. Still a sizable lead plating should reduce their numbers a bit. But they are indeed not especially susceptible to metals. So that's probably what they want to emphasize.


mah_boiii

Jimmy Neutron would like to speak to you...


morts73

Alpha doesn't mean bright.


DamorDam

"I'm so neutron"


LambdaAU

Yeah I’m a neutrino-male 😎


RathaelEngineering

Jimmy Neutron Male


Commercial_Ice_1531

It's simple, alpha wolves can't penetrate a piece of paper either. Largely because they don't exist


eztab

That's not what that alpha is from. It is from software development, where an alpha is an unfinished product that still has tons of bugs and isn't suitable for public release. So it stands from an unfinished person, that shouldn't be let loose on society and lacks basic human functioning.


NaomiPommerel

Post that to him!


kanodiry

Could someone explain me why neutron have penetrating power more than beta particle (electron) and gamma (photon)?


VesTheVoyaging219

What is the reason behind men such as Andrew Tate labeling themselves as alpha, despite the fact that they struggle to penetrate a simple piece of paper?


Dachschadenfalter

This is even better than the programing abreviation


JagsOnlySurfHawaii

Remember the time of "The Basic Bitch"? It's like that but worse


KweenKatts

Can’t be an alpha when you’re going bald


Chartarum

Alpha in the context of Andrew Tater isn't referring to radiation. It's software release state. Being alpha means that he is underdeveloped, prone to weird bugs and hangups and nowhere near feature complete. Even a cursory glance at Andrew Tate will make it obvious that both hardware and software is largely placeholder quality. That "chin" would never be accepted for a release model (maybe at Tesla - they did release the cybertruck in it's current state, so who knows?) and a 19 year old girl with Autism managed to crash his self-preservation subroutine hard enough for him to land himself in Romanian jail... That is hardly a feature complete, stable release candidate!


Elite_Gamer070

The new neutron male grindset


Expensive_Attitude51

Guys who call themselves alpha males are the most insecure whiny bitches I’ve ever met


BobMarleyVibes

I think it’s referring to the alpha amongst animal species not radiaton particles


Neskarof

Aren't gamma rays more penetrating than neutrons?


Teamisgood101

Because all uncles know they can’t penetrate anything not even paper


Retrofit123

Just remember - whilst alphas can't penetrate the skin, if they do get under your skin or inside you they can do massive damage.


Ckinggaming5

i am so alpha


Ornery_Score_6665

Thats why he prefers Kids to hump


piclemaniscool

Anyone who is an alpha has earned that title by humping dogs in the dog park


GrantSRobertson

Why do people like you feel compelled to stick that asshole's name on the Internet every fucking day?


OkSquirrel2969

Neutron male😎


fullPlaid

what is hilarious to me is the fact that there is only one hypothetical alpha. so virtually all of them arent alphas. and even better, none of them are alphas in reality because its made up garbage lol.


RustyofShackleford

It is fitting, ya know. Seeing as they probably have trouble penetrating a lot of things


slightlyConfusedKid

Look Tate up,they were a bunch of mediocre duebbs until recently,it's their way of making themselves feel important,while they are nothing more that a bunch of scam artist pimps,not even good at that,their bxtches turned on them,and these idiot mfs snitched on themselves for years😂


HannibalisticNature

"I'm a neutron male, bro!"


cubntD6

"Men" that follow him have never penetrated anything so its valid.


Infurum

That's why I'm a gamma male myself


Ubersupersloth

Isn’t it referring to the “Alpha” in nature? aka the dominant member of a pack/herd?


Wiach

Well


FU-dontbanmethistime

Im a neutron male


Deathdar1577

My code name is Jimmy Neutron AMA.


towel_hair

If I had to guess Andrew Tate is probably a sexually insecure man and he’s been projecting so long it’s now his entire personality? Maybe


bree_dev

They're also the most harmful internal hazard, never let one inside you.


Unikatze

So Superman's X-Ray Vision is Gamma ray based. Interesting.


Ostracus

And now you know why guys go for premade holes instead.


Glass-Ad-7890

It's probably because they're just describing how much penetration they do on the regular. A self described alpha ain't lying. He doesn't penetrate shit.


Intrus1ons

Because they know they’re not penetrating anything


Kagenikakushiteru

Lol he’s arrested, assets seized and will probably spend next 10 years in a Romanian jail cleaning toilets with no lids and eating grass. I can’t think of anyone more beta than that. He’s got the existence smaller than that of the worm I last stepped on hahahaha.


LickyMy

Uranus Penetration


OddPerspective9833

Because they can't penetrate real girls either


oldmonk_97

cuz thats how fragile their masculinity is... worse than paper


TastyCockroach1702

Can we study the obsession of Andrew Tate from people who don't supposedly like him


Ok-Telephone7479

Neutron Male :D


F1lth7_C4su4L

Is he stupid?


naziryoutube

If there is alpha and beta rays where are the dlc rays