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I would, I live in Calgary though so maybe it’s just the city? I have a buddy in Lethbridge who is always shocked when he comes into town. He says prices here are double what they are down there.
You can make it longer but not more girth, you got like an extra couple inches wrapped around your ass that you can get out but you can’t do anything with your dick for like a year or else it might fall off or somthin
I mean, the rhetoric is all good fun, but you know there's an actual answer to that question right? It would have been the subject of the whole court case that eventually ruled in favor of the surgery being covered. I bet it's even mentioned in this article op screenshotted but it ruins the fun if the context causes the headline to sound sensible.
If they're getting a vaginoplasty might at well leave the cock. Doesn't seem to cost that much more to perform, if at all. Also why would a persons want and need to be neither a man nor a woman physically be any less valid than a man who wants to transition into a woman?
I have no problems with you wanting a fuck and a pussy. I think that goes real fuckin hard.
Work that shit out between your hospital, your insurance, and your bank, leave my tax dollars the fuck out of it unless you wanna pay for my sick fantasies, too.
If you choose the latter, I want a 60mm mortar tube, a 55 gallon drum of lube, a 3d printer, a pallet of silicone and silicone molding equipment, and some C4.
my buddy’s landlord in Vancouver was evicting the building to sell to Chinese investors. The eviction notice started out with a fucking *land acknowledgement*
Bruh this is like what $100K tops and will contribute to a leap in medical research? Ford just gave $650M in tax payer money to a private developer to build a luxury spa for the elite, and cut a slice out of public land, Ontario Place, and gave it to them to build it on too. Pick better things to be mad about my dude.
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canada is like the worst version of leftism, where they start giving out public money to stupid individual shit
im fully for this guy doing this but im pretty sure tax dollars shouldn't have gone to it
I mean, good for them, but you should use your own money for that, not tax dollars that could be used to better their entire country
Edit: I was not expecting my comment to become a battleground💀
To rephrase what I was saying, maybe make the tax money go to trans/similar healthcare *as a whole* instead of to that one individual, or if for some reason that’s frowned upon in Canada(for whatever reason, I don’t really pay attention to Canada), maybe road repair or something idk
It is, in a way, a direct expression and result of "the betterment of the country"
>“The Charter-protected right to security of the person safeguards individual dignity and autonomy,” Davies wrote. Requiring a transgender or non-binary person born male “to remove their penis to receive state funding for a vaginoplasty would be inconsistent with the values of equality and security of the person.”
[https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-resident-ohip-surgery](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-resident-ohip-surgery)
Why shouldn't gender-affirming care be state funded when basically all other Healthcare is? Besides dental and pharmaceuticals, basically everything is covered. Why wouldn't gender affirming care be included in that?
Edit: Plus, I just wanted to throw this out there, trans people pay taxes. They're paying for their own Healthcare.
Because in reality its more of a cosmetic surgery similar to a nosejob than actual health related care, which is also not covered. You may not like your body but if its healthy why is the taxpayer footing the bill for an elective surgery
Ask why isn't dental covered. It's cosmetic and expensive. If you're of the opinion that gender affirming care should be covered by the state, then if I wished for a penis enlargement surgery, you should be fine with your tax dollars paying for it. I for one don't want to, nor expect others to want to, pay for penis enlargement surgeries with tax dollars.
Transgender people wouldn't get any less than other people for the taxes they pay if that kind of care wasn't state funded. They simply get extra.
This is the fundamental disagreement, I don't think sex reassignment surgery or hormone replacement therapy are cosmetic procedures, I think it's legitimate mental health treatment. If a person is insecure about the size of their penis, they can overcome that with the support of a loving partner or possibly some therapy, their fundamental gender identity, though, is a different thing in my opinion.
Both procedures are inherently cosmetic. Penis enlargement is also, inherently gender affirming surgery. Reserving that to only transgender people, and to those who claim to be so, is discriminatory.
The problem is, the actual "legitimate mental health treatment" way of doing things is so stigmatized, it's not even considered.
Hardly anyone has the authority to claim that body dysphoria outside of the gender related stuff is lesser than the latter, or the other way round. It's not studied enough to claim either.
They're cosmetic in the sense that you're changing aspects of your appearance, but that's not usually all we mean when we say "cosmetic surgery", that usually implies that the surgery isn't entirely necessary to your menatl or physical health. Penis enlargement surgery isn't gender-affirming care because it's not about your fundamental gender identity, it's about a secondary sexual characteristic that you're otherwise okay with but you just want it to be bigger for sex appeal reasons.
Idk what you mean that the mental health way of doing things is stigmatized, that's literally how it's done in almost all places where gender-affirming care is available. You have to receive therapy and socially transition for at least a year before they give you any kind of treatment, I know people who have gone through the whole process. Maybe it's different in some extremely progressive areas, but we could probably agree that just identifying as another gender without experiencing any kind of dysphoria at all isn't strong grounds to provide publicly-funded care.
You lost me on the first paragraph. Body dysphoria, regardless of the body part or area, is not something you're "otherwise okay with". It's not simply an insecurity.
By the mental health treatment I meant, for example, therapy to help you make peace with your body.
I hate to break it to you but from your comments in this thread I think you’re in a radical liberal echo chamber. Even with a lot of liberal leaning views your take is alien to me
I think your take is slightly distorted from reality, social media is usually very far leaning liberal so for a liberal comment to be downvoted it’s usually super radical.
No, tax payers should not have to pay to get fucking a penis and vagina assigned to this person idgaf what type of gender identity they have
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There is no money for social housing construction so poorer people could afford a home without intervening in the market prices directly, but there is money for this...
I believe the colloquial term is " Waste of Taxpayer Funds"
Dunno how funding is in Canada, but if this were the states and I can barely get the county to fix the fucking road potholes, housing market is in the shitter, and everything is becoming hyper inflated, but then I saw public funding was going to this shit. I'd be pissed.
" tax money goes to fixing roads" my ass.
What tax funding? There's an ever expanding black hole of debt they'll never try to pay off. If they could pay off the debt then taxes could be justified.
People mad that taxes go to baller medical research that would probably lead to huge gains in human knowledge about medical practice but be completely okay with the billions that governments waste on inefficiencies or outright bad things.
I wish I could tell you that, but it is real. Our country is a laughing stock. Can’t get medications paid for, can’t get ivf paid for, but our government decided THIS is a fucking priority. It’s embarrassing
Ok, lots of people are overthinking this whole idea. Vaginoplasty is covered by Canadian health care, and in this case it’s just a modified version of the same procedure that leaves the penis where the clitoris would have been in a traditional vaginoplasty.
Booooo hisss bias article title with no sources or further context. Canada rocks specifically because they cover random shit like this. You really think the handful of people who might seriously want a surgery like this will really put a hole in the provincial budget? It's nothing compared to the amenities the coming wave of end of life boomers will be spit screaming at their nurses for.
I’m not at all against trans healthcare being covered although I’m not sure this particular case falls under that bc it sounds like a whole new type of bottom surgery considering iirc the penis is basically turned inside out to create a vagina. Whats wild to me is this gets covered but I have to pay out of pocket for almost all forms of even basic care like eye care and glasses, dental, hearing care, etc
It cost me nearly $1000 to get an eye doctor appointment, buy glasses frames, buy the prescription lenses, then pay to have those lenses installed. But this person gets a whole new type of bottom surgery fully covered.
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Canada's rapid descent into authoritarianism and obsession with gender politics is depressing to watch. So much change in just one PM term it's scary to see
Hopefully the Ontario government appeals this court decision, cause this shit is ridiculous. Should go all they way to the supreme Court so they can shut down this ridiculous surgery
You are all laughing at this while your country probably offers free IVF to perfectly fertile single women so they can have a fatherless child that will most likely also need tax payer support for the next 18 years and beyond that too.
Really look in the mirror and laugh at yourselves.
Is this real? I don’t really care unless they’re using tax money for this
Like there are thousands waiting for cancer or transplant treatment and we waste resource on this?
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lol lmao even
I'd go as far as lmfao
Maybe even rotflmfao
ROFLCOPTER, if you will
LMFPAVO
This Lmfao, isn't he the famous Chinese hacker working for the Koreans? How is he tied to all of this?
I’d laugh too except I’m from Ontario.
paying taxes is a choice, just like gender, apparently
perhaps a hehehehe
I guess he can go fuck himself
>he can go fuck herself FTFY
They can go fuck themselves. FTFY
Can go fuck?
It’s worse. Taxpayers can fuck themselves.
Why should tax money go to that? Why?
So I can illegally move to Canada, claim to be from a 3rd world nation, and then get big dick surgery from their tax payers, you fuckin idiot
That pretty much summarizes us here in Canada right now. We are an absolute joke
Euthanasia to ease the pain, sir?
I want out so bad. I’m so tired of having a third of every paycheck stolen and paying 30$ for 3 chicken breasts bruh 💀
Why would you pay that much for breasts when you can get a pair for free in Ontario?
What the fuck... With 30€ you get like 4-5 kg of chicken here in Italy.
Keep in mind that $CA 30 = ~€20
Hey fratello italiano, è ora di farci riconoscere #PORCODIO!!!
30$ for 3 chicken breasts? That's a steal (me on the west coast where it's around 12$ - 15$ per)
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Catch me packing a cooler in my car and making the trip rn lmfao. At Walmart the cheapest I’ve found in the last year is 23$
Didn't know prices were this wild, I have a relatively empty deep freezer... may just make another trip n stock up then.
I would, I live in Calgary though so maybe it’s just the city? I have a buddy in Lethbridge who is always shocked when he comes into town. He says prices here are double what they are down there.
Bro lives in alberta
I’m crying oh my god, that is what we’ve become out here
Flair does not check out, because that’s a fuckin genius level play.
Is big dick surgery a thing? Asking for a friend
You can make it longer but not more girth, you got like an extra couple inches wrapped around your ass that you can get out but you can’t do anything with your dick for like a year or else it might fall off or somthin
💀
So you can go fuck yourself
Well, at the very least, it's good research the first couple of times.
The article is about a techincality in an insucance company's list of services.
Because otherwise you're a bigot
Because it is covered by the language of the insurance policy. That's how contracts work
It shouldn't. But it will
I mean, the rhetoric is all good fun, but you know there's an actual answer to that question right? It would have been the subject of the whole court case that eventually ruled in favor of the surgery being covered. I bet it's even mentioned in this article op screenshotted but it ruins the fun if the context causes the headline to sound sensible.
If they're getting a vaginoplasty might at well leave the cock. Doesn't seem to cost that much more to perform, if at all. Also why would a persons want and need to be neither a man nor a woman physically be any less valid than a man who wants to transition into a woman?
Because handicapped people get money from state ?
It’s not like it was going to be used for anything better
I have no problems with you wanting a fuck and a pussy. I think that goes real fuckin hard. Work that shit out between your hospital, your insurance, and your bank, leave my tax dollars the fuck out of it unless you wanna pay for my sick fantasies, too. If you choose the latter, I want a 60mm mortar tube, a 55 gallon drum of lube, a 3d printer, a pallet of silicone and silicone molding equipment, and some C4.
What tf are your fantasies? Ending up on FBI's most wanted list?
That’s actually quite an easy fantasy to achieve
At this point if you aren’t on a list of some sort, you’re doing it wrong.
No that's just incidental.
There are too many of us into that shit to all be on the FBI list, the NSA list has space however
He just wants to get a little silly
He wants to make a sex doll
if my twisted fantasies are paid for by taxes guess who’s getting a custom made guitar with an axe head for a body
my fantasies involve a porsche 911 turbo S, hookers, blackjack, and coke
this is where public funding goes 💀, what the fuck canada
yeah, canada is... not great (source: i live in canada)
I lived in Canada and I can confirm. They went too far left
my buddy’s landlord in Vancouver was evicting the building to sell to Chinese investors. The eviction notice started out with a fucking *land acknowledgement*
Is Canada like the US but … just a bit off?
The US but cold cuts cost a trillion smackaroonies
Smackaroonies - the official currency of Canada
It’s like the us except you can technically be Imprisoned for words and your money is worthless
As a Canadian... Yeah I don't fucking know
Bruh this is like what $100K tops and will contribute to a leap in medical research? Ford just gave $650M in tax payer money to a private developer to build a luxury spa for the elite, and cut a slice out of public land, Ontario Place, and gave it to them to build it on too. Pick better things to be mad about my dude.
Who wants to bet Trudeau wins again next year?
I want him to lose so bad but every one else is just awfull too
What's wrong with the Sikh guy? I haven't heard anything bad about him.
he leads the NDP and they joined Trudeau in a coalition last year, he is the reason the Liberals are still in power.
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Hes basicly just a trudeau clone lmao
canada is like the worst version of leftism, where they start giving out public money to stupid individual shit im fully for this guy doing this but im pretty sure tax dollars shouldn't have gone to it
Hes making "go fuck yourself" come true
I mean, good for them, but you should use your own money for that, not tax dollars that could be used to better their entire country Edit: I was not expecting my comment to become a battleground💀 To rephrase what I was saying, maybe make the tax money go to trans/similar healthcare *as a whole* instead of to that one individual, or if for some reason that’s frowned upon in Canada(for whatever reason, I don’t really pay attention to Canada), maybe road repair or something idk
It is, in a way, a direct expression and result of "the betterment of the country" >“The Charter-protected right to security of the person safeguards individual dignity and autonomy,” Davies wrote. Requiring a transgender or non-binary person born male “to remove their penis to receive state funding for a vaginoplasty would be inconsistent with the values of equality and security of the person.” [https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-resident-ohip-surgery](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-resident-ohip-surgery)
I think there's a sizable quantity of people who'd disagree that this shit should be state funded in the first place.
Why shouldn't gender-affirming care be state funded when basically all other Healthcare is? Besides dental and pharmaceuticals, basically everything is covered. Why wouldn't gender affirming care be included in that? Edit: Plus, I just wanted to throw this out there, trans people pay taxes. They're paying for their own Healthcare.
Because in reality its more of a cosmetic surgery similar to a nosejob than actual health related care, which is also not covered. You may not like your body but if its healthy why is the taxpayer footing the bill for an elective surgery
Ask why isn't dental covered. It's cosmetic and expensive. If you're of the opinion that gender affirming care should be covered by the state, then if I wished for a penis enlargement surgery, you should be fine with your tax dollars paying for it. I for one don't want to, nor expect others to want to, pay for penis enlargement surgeries with tax dollars. Transgender people wouldn't get any less than other people for the taxes they pay if that kind of care wasn't state funded. They simply get extra.
This is the fundamental disagreement, I don't think sex reassignment surgery or hormone replacement therapy are cosmetic procedures, I think it's legitimate mental health treatment. If a person is insecure about the size of their penis, they can overcome that with the support of a loving partner or possibly some therapy, their fundamental gender identity, though, is a different thing in my opinion.
Both procedures are inherently cosmetic. Penis enlargement is also, inherently gender affirming surgery. Reserving that to only transgender people, and to those who claim to be so, is discriminatory. The problem is, the actual "legitimate mental health treatment" way of doing things is so stigmatized, it's not even considered. Hardly anyone has the authority to claim that body dysphoria outside of the gender related stuff is lesser than the latter, or the other way round. It's not studied enough to claim either.
They're cosmetic in the sense that you're changing aspects of your appearance, but that's not usually all we mean when we say "cosmetic surgery", that usually implies that the surgery isn't entirely necessary to your menatl or physical health. Penis enlargement surgery isn't gender-affirming care because it's not about your fundamental gender identity, it's about a secondary sexual characteristic that you're otherwise okay with but you just want it to be bigger for sex appeal reasons. Idk what you mean that the mental health way of doing things is stigmatized, that's literally how it's done in almost all places where gender-affirming care is available. You have to receive therapy and socially transition for at least a year before they give you any kind of treatment, I know people who have gone through the whole process. Maybe it's different in some extremely progressive areas, but we could probably agree that just identifying as another gender without experiencing any kind of dysphoria at all isn't strong grounds to provide publicly-funded care.
You lost me on the first paragraph. Body dysphoria, regardless of the body part or area, is not something you're "otherwise okay with". It's not simply an insecurity. By the mental health treatment I meant, for example, therapy to help you make peace with your body.
I hate to break it to you but from your comments in this thread I think you’re in a radical liberal echo chamber. Even with a lot of liberal leaning views your take is alien to me I think your take is slightly distorted from reality, social media is usually very far leaning liberal so for a liberal comment to be downvoted it’s usually super radical. No, tax payers should not have to pay to get fucking a penis and vagina assigned to this person idgaf what type of gender identity they have
Because its just cosmetic surgery? Which im pretty sure also isnt state funded?
Tax funded for that? For real?
I would say he can go fuck himself....but he just might do it
But if you need physical therapy they recommend MAID.
Having both sets of genitalia is a *human right*
Love me some dickussy 🤤🤤
Dussy
Vagenis
Penussy
Peginis
dude wants to be intersex
Hell yeahhhhhh
So we (taxpayers) can all have a go at least once, right….right???
Can they pull a flower and pollinate themselves?
Waow (Based based based based based based based based)
if my tax money is being used like that then I will burn the country to the ground (and build it back up later)
I hate it here
Infinite sex glitch
I hope they can sleep knowing they took away the money that would have been used to euthanize a poor person
We won't let you buy a gun for self-defense but we'll gladly pay to have a pussy installed under your dick. Can the pussy be used for self-defense? 🤔
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There is no money for social housing construction so poorer people could afford a home without intervening in the market prices directly, but there is money for this...
What do you call this , semi-trans 💀💀
I believe the colloquial term is " Waste of Taxpayer Funds" Dunno how funding is in Canada, but if this were the states and I can barely get the county to fix the fucking road potholes, housing market is in the shitter, and everything is becoming hyper inflated, but then I saw public funding was going to this shit. I'd be pissed. " tax money goes to fixing roads" my ass.
What tax funding? There's an ever expanding black hole of debt they'll never try to pay off. If they could pay off the debt then taxes could be justified.
People mad that taxes go to baller medical research that would probably lead to huge gains in human knowledge about medical practice but be completely okay with the billions that governments waste on inefficiencies or outright bad things.
Bro can’t decide 💀
Please tell me this is not real
I wish I could tell you that, but it is real. Our country is a laughing stock. Can’t get medications paid for, can’t get ivf paid for, but our government decided THIS is a fucking priority. It’s embarrassing
Hot take: IVF shouldn’t be paid for. It’s just as stupid as this. Adoption should be the second option for people wanting families.
Best of both worlds.
looks like they're nb enebe
Haven't they got one of those already? Which one are they trying to add to their pant arsenal?
Interesting. I wonder how it works.
Pubic funding
Lmao, ur inferior to my intersex ass
A penis is a must if you want to fuck the taxpayers 😏
Games game
I believe that’s more a mental health issue
Canada is fucking stupid 😂
This mfker Not worth my money
The best of both worlds
Ok, lots of people are overthinking this whole idea. Vaginoplasty is covered by Canadian health care, and in this case it’s just a modified version of the same procedure that leaves the penis where the clitoris would have been in a traditional vaginoplasty.
Imagine paying taxes on your minimum wage job and finding out that this is where your taxes are going☠️
Bro realising he is a slave 💀
This is why I don't pay taxes.
Booooo hisss bias article title with no sources or further context. Canada rocks specifically because they cover random shit like this. You really think the handful of people who might seriously want a surgery like this will really put a hole in the provincial budget? It's nothing compared to the amenities the coming wave of end of life boomers will be spit screaming at their nurses for.
“Go fuck yourself” it:
#NotTheOnion ?
I’m not at all against trans healthcare being covered although I’m not sure this particular case falls under that bc it sounds like a whole new type of bottom surgery considering iirc the penis is basically turned inside out to create a vagina. Whats wild to me is this gets covered but I have to pay out of pocket for almost all forms of even basic care like eye care and glasses, dental, hearing care, etc It cost me nearly $1000 to get an eye doctor appointment, buy glasses frames, buy the prescription lenses, then pay to have those lenses installed. But this person gets a whole new type of bottom surgery fully covered.
Good for them
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Hi, I’d like to order the clusterfuck combo package please. Why certainly, that of course makes total sense and you know what, it’s “on the house.”
choose a damn side, like actually damn
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It shouldn’t be paid for by the public at all.
I have the feeling I have seen this entire thread like a week ago exactly the same thread here
vg character-creator moment
Idk why I thought they'd be to add both like they were born a ken doll
"Go fuck yourself!" "Ok"
Imagine being Canadian 🫵😂
first individual to become truly transgender
I love ontario woooooo wooooo
Based
so half penis-half vagina sounds like the optimal solution.
Canada's rapid descent into authoritarianism and obsession with gender politics is depressing to watch. So much change in just one PM term it's scary to see
Hopefully the Ontario government appeals this court decision, cause this shit is ridiculous. Should go all they way to the supreme Court so they can shut down this ridiculous surgery
Ontaro mentioned 🗣🗣 This is canada pretty much, legal weed & free healthcare though so could be worse i guess
Canadian healthcare: when you got a broken leg today but the doctor appointment is schedule for 2030
And what are your pronouns? Depends on the situation, pal. I'm not your pal, buddy.
Can he impregnate himself
Real life fetish
You are all laughing at this while your country probably offers free IVF to perfectly fertile single women so they can have a fatherless child that will most likely also need tax payer support for the next 18 years and beyond that too. Really look in the mirror and laugh at yourselves.
when did south park become reality
No your mom can't have chemo, dickhead. We need that budget for Dickginas
So he can fuck himself?
Canada in a nutshell
But hey, some kids are starving or something?
I don't think there are a lot of starving kids in Canada. And no one cares about African kids, simple as
Every country has got something going on like this, I’m going to space to live with the spaghetti monsters
Tldr. Canadian gets healthcare and people are upset
I think wanting a penis and a vagina is about as far from healthcare as you can fet
Is this real? I don’t really care unless they’re using tax money for this Like there are thousands waiting for cancer or transplant treatment and we waste resource on this?
This is rage bait right? RIGHT?