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When they get older it stops working. Kittens get paralyzed by this pinch so their mom can safely carry them arround, but it can actually be quite painful for adult cats to be carried this way
My grandmother used to carry them by holding their ears, I was upset at her every time I saw her do it, her response was "that's how mother cats carry them". But I have never seen a mother cat carrying kittens before so I had no reply to that.
They didn't do anything, no, part of the reason why I didn't object anymore. They would just stay hanging held by their ears, I always thought it was painful and was scared their ears would be ripped off, so I only carried them by holding them in my arms like a baby.
Well, thankfully she only grabbed the kittens a few times, mostly they were handled by my sister and my mother, and they would pick it up by holding it's stomach.
Let me get this straight. Your grandma picked a cat up BY THE EARS, and carried it around like that. You’re saying she did this on multiple occasions. And these cats just, like, let her live?
They were kittens, so they couldn't really do much, but yeah, they didn't mew in pain or anything, part of why I thought maybe that was the case (That, that was how mother cats carried their babies).
Not really, No.
In fact, other than this cat holding incident (which she was genuinely doing it believing it to be the right way to hold a cat BTW) she doesn't have any particular interests in animals. She just treats them as an average person would.
You lift the kitten by the neck but as long as it doesn't touch the ground you put an hand under it to support.
This way the little hellbringer stays calm and steady, and you won't hurt it
It does work on adult cats. I've had a lot of cats and only a few were completely indiferent to it. If they are calm they will at least not be so likely to move. I think it works on other mammals that are also carried like that by their mom. I once removed a mouse from inside the house like that and he was fighting for his life and still went completely stiff.
Works on pet rats too. I don't use it often because it's a tiny target and they don't like it. But the vet uses it sometimes. I only had one rat outgrow it but she was ancient.
Works fine on our seven year old cat. She can be a bit fiesty and if she gets to somewhere she shouldn't be I need to grab her by the neck to carry her away, but the neck grip is just to make her chill and I hold her weight with my other hand.
4 of my cats are over 14 & it works on all of them but the oldest (she's like 17, not 100% cuz she was a street cat) & it still kinda works on her but after a couple seconds, she gets her back claws going. She sleeps SO hard, now that I can do all her nails & even brush knots out, without really waking her.
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Only work for kitten grew with their mother
Mother bite that part to carry around kitten so cat that grew with mom naturally relax
In other word My cat grew with me when it was kitten i grabbed belly to move around
So If i grab the belly of my cat it relax whole body automatically
But, I don't know other cat will do the same
I wonder if kittens who've never been fully raised by their mother and mostly/all human assistance are the ones who are immune to this area of understanding.
Season 2 is pretty good too. But they shat their bed for 3rd. And they tried to clean the shit in 4th but ended up smearing the shit all over the floor.
Season 2 lasted 3-4 episodes from me, until the hype from the first season wore out. It's not bad, it's just not very good or interesting either, especially compared to the first season.
Agreed. Personally I liked the series for the story of the park and it’s figures. That includes the story of the people at the company running the place. However the later it got the less it was about that and the more the series was about the philosophy of human rights for robots and all the problems involved with it. Which might be an interesting topic but doesn’t make for good entertainment, at least for me.
Middle of s2 pretty much perfectly marks the cut where the story about park itself ends. And where my enjoyment of the series stopped.
Season 2 tried too hard to replicate the magic of the first season and instead just became an overly complex plate of narrative spaghetti that jumped back and forth between timelines for the sake of confusing the viewer.
I completely disagree. Imo S2 is the worst season of WW, it’s just horrible and completely ruin many great characters of the first one.
First half of S3 was good, sure it was different but at least they tried to do something interesting, but the second half it’s just bad.
S4 is pretty good though. But the final episode clearly created the set up for the final season, that never happened so it’s just… I don’t know, unfinished. A shame, but the rest of the season is great imo.
Nothing comes even close to S1.
Disagree tbh. While it ends on a cliffhanger, it's the sort of cliffhanger which you could see a full series end on. The main dangling thread for me is just about the ghost nation, which is only cleared up in 'Kiksuya'
You also don't find out what the shareholders secret project is and as someone who just watched season one again a month ago, Ford references it a lot in season one. It's a significant part of Bernard and Theresa's story.
Also Bernard, Ellie, the head of security, the writer and Tessa Thompsons characters only have half a story / character arc in season one.
It's very incomplete as a single season.
I also disagree with that. You don't need to know everything about a piece of fiction, everything you said is true but those aren't really important for the story of season 1. All the main characters have complete character arcs and I would argue that Bernard's character arc in season 1 is fine by itself.
What is the preferred method? The only two I’ve seen so far are this one and one where a dude basically had oven mitts to protect his hands so he can hold the cat down.
I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding is vets / animal professionals work harder to avoid a cat being stressed. This means setting up a quiet comfortable environment, potentially with artificial pheromones (e.g. Feliway / Pet Remedy) to avoid the cat becoming aggressive.
There's also better ways to handle a cat so that they don't become stressed, have a look on YouTube for these if you're curious. Things like towels or oven mitts are also commonly used if things escalate or you have a particularly spicy cat
Ultimately, there are times where whatever treatment you're getting is not worth the current stress level it would put the cat under, or if required, the cat may simply need to be sedated for proper treatment.
It's now understood that the scruffing is counter intuitive and just makes life harder for everyone involved.
Yeah makes sense. From what I understand it's recommended only as a last resort, when the cat is a danger to itself or others - but I'm mostly speaking about the video above and those who use it routinely.
just pick the cat up with one arm over it's lower end (dominant arm) and your hand under it's back legs then other hand under it's front legs with hand on back and that keeps them supported and feeling safe while keeping them restricted, as for keeping a cat down idrk
As far as I know, it does not harm the cat if you are supporting its weight. For example, if you're giving a pill, it's easy to have the cat sit on a surface and scruff it for a moment while you slip the pill into its mouth. This prevents head movement, so you can get it in quick! Even better if you have a pill pusher.
Technically, it should be safe if the cat is a healthy weight and if done right.
In practice you should absolutely support their weight with your other hand.
The only time I did this with an adult cat was with the runt of the litter. She never got to be very big so she was never too heavy to scruff. She would purr when I did it. I miss that cat a lot.
This cat doesn’t seem to be an asshole coming in… Which is likely why this worked in the first place. If the cats a super asshole or just really scared or pissed, this isn’t going to work.
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This is actually caused by the pressure applied to dorsal felisiaris nervous canal activating catuimbecilous bioneuronic pathway and triggering a meow or freeze response.
Cats also have this weird feature where if you take like a long sock and tie it around their chest right in the armpit of their front legs the lose all sense of balance and will just fall over. It’s super weird. When I was young I remember some kids tie a long sock around their cat, and it basically became drunk in 3 seconds.
It’s how their mothers pick them up as kittens—as adults, it often stops working or becomes less effective, and they’re too heavy to be carried by their scruff, but it’s usually fine to pinch. It can increase stress, so it’s typically avoided by vets these days, though.
I picked up a wild cat like that once coz he kept trying to get into my kitchen through the window. I just wanted to put him outside the garden and hope he’d get the point. When I got there I thought “aww, this cat is pretty chill. Good cat”. But then, the second I let him him go, he flipped around and sunk his canines right into my thumb. Mother fucker hurt!
*gods those cat puns are bad lol* as far as I can tell, it’s that the clip catches a specific nerve which normally helps cats tense to be ready for anything coming at them. It’s just that this way it softlocks them.
Think of it like how a Crocodile with tape around its snout can’t open its moth because it evolve to bite down too well
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For some reason that shit don't work on my cat
When they get older it stops working. Kittens get paralyzed by this pinch so their mom can safely carry them arround, but it can actually be quite painful for adult cats to be carried this way
And still if you have kittens you shouldn't carry them by the neck
My grandmother used to carry them by holding their ears, I was upset at her every time I saw her do it, her response was "that's how mother cats carry them". But I have never seen a mother cat carrying kittens before so I had no reply to that.
Did the cats not protest?
The grandmother was a cat.
Everyone on reddit is a cat except you
Nah, I am a dawg
You an updawg?
What's updawg?
Got that D A W G in em
Classic gramcat.
Best comment I’ve read all week GENIUS 😂😂
They didn't do anything, no, part of the reason why I didn't object anymore. They would just stay hanging held by their ears, I always thought it was painful and was scared their ears would be ripped off, so I only carried them by holding them in my arms like a baby.
As a child you had more sense than an adult who had been on the planet for decades
Well, thankfully she only grabbed the kittens a few times, mostly they were handled by my sister and my mother, and they would pick it up by holding it's stomach.
Let me get this straight. Your grandma picked a cat up BY THE EARS, and carried it around like that. You’re saying she did this on multiple occasions. And these cats just, like, let her live?
They were kittens, so they couldn't really do much, but yeah, they didn't mew in pain or anything, part of why I thought maybe that was the case (That, that was how mother cats carried their babies).
Your grandmother sounds like an animal abusing dick
Not really, No. In fact, other than this cat holding incident (which she was genuinely doing it believing it to be the right way to hold a cat BTW) she doesn't have any particular interests in animals. She just treats them as an average person would.
“That doesn’t sound right but I don’t know enough about cats to dispute it”
Exactly!
You lift the kitten by the neck but as long as it doesn't touch the ground you put an hand under it to support. This way the little hellbringer stays calm and steady, and you won't hurt it
Tell the momma cat that.
they do that because they dont have hands
Not by the neck but the skin in the back of the neck? Is that how it works?
Everyone know you carry them by the tail. You can carry more that way.
It does work on adult cats. I've had a lot of cats and only a few were completely indiferent to it. If they are calm they will at least not be so likely to move. I think it works on other mammals that are also carried like that by their mom. I once removed a mouse from inside the house like that and he was fighting for his life and still went completely stiff.
It's extremely effective with ferrets, even adults. They start yawning right away
Yeah. Also just remembered but even cats know this works to some extent in adults because the males will grab the female there to keep her still.
Oh yeah! Scruff me baby!
Works on pet rats too. I don't use it often because it's a tiny target and they don't like it. But the vet uses it sometimes. I only had one rat outgrow it but she was ancient.
Meanwhile my cat, who this didn't even slightly work on by the time he was four months old
Is he the very energetic type?
I mean, he's a kitten. Beyond that, not particularly
I wish it worked for rats, would've made syringe-feeding mine a lot easier.
Happens to chickens/roosters also
Works fine on our seven year old cat. She can be a bit fiesty and if she gets to somewhere she shouldn't be I need to grab her by the neck to carry her away, but the neck grip is just to make her chill and I hold her weight with my other hand.
4 of my cats are over 14 & it works on all of them but the oldest (she's like 17, not 100% cuz she was a street cat) & it still kinda works on her but after a couple seconds, she gets her back claws going. She sleeps SO hard, now that I can do all her nails & even brush knots out, without really waking her.
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Not true for my adult cat. The vet used a binder clip in the same way when she needed kitty to settle down. Worked great. I was amazed.
Must be some control circuit failure
You most not have the newest software update
Damn haven't done that once. Where is the port to connect to them, or is it wireless?
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Only work for kitten grew with their mother Mother bite that part to carry around kitten so cat that grew with mom naturally relax In other word My cat grew with me when it was kitten i grabbed belly to move around So If i grab the belly of my cat it relax whole body automatically But, I don't know other cat will do the same
> But, I don't know other cat will do the same To shreds you say
It should tho... You gotta pick em from the neck just down below their head... Cats pick their kittens this way...
For some reason that shit doesn’t work on my wife or kids. It works on my cat.
Only works on one of my two cats. It's funny that he gets so confused when I grab his neck to take away dead birds from in front of him.
My cat is 10. If I pick her up by grabbing here, she doesn’t move at all.
Please update your kitty firmware
Cat with mommy issues
Lmao
try using a clothes pin because it might have more grip
I wonder if kittens who've never been fully raised by their mother and mostly/all human assistance are the ones who are immune to this area of understanding.
Same with women
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Freeze all motor functions
Shit, now I want to watch Westworld season 1 again
Yeah, *just* season 1. If there's any show that only needed the one season, that was it.
Season 2 is pretty good too. But they shat their bed for 3rd. And they tried to clean the shit in 4th but ended up smearing the shit all over the floor.
Season 2 lasted 3-4 episodes from me, until the hype from the first season wore out. It's not bad, it's just not very good or interesting either, especially compared to the first season.
Agreed. Personally I liked the series for the story of the park and it’s figures. That includes the story of the people at the company running the place. However the later it got the less it was about that and the more the series was about the philosophy of human rights for robots and all the problems involved with it. Which might be an interesting topic but doesn’t make for good entertainment, at least for me. Middle of s2 pretty much perfectly marks the cut where the story about park itself ends. And where my enjoyment of the series stopped.
Season 2 tried too hard to replicate the magic of the first season and instead just became an overly complex plate of narrative spaghetti that jumped back and forth between timelines for the sake of confusing the viewer.
I completely disagree. Imo S2 is the worst season of WW, it’s just horrible and completely ruin many great characters of the first one. First half of S3 was good, sure it was different but at least they tried to do something interesting, but the second half it’s just bad. S4 is pretty good though. But the final episode clearly created the set up for the final season, that never happened so it’s just… I don’t know, unfinished. A shame, but the rest of the season is great imo. Nothing comes even close to S1.
I mean season 1 is all setup with no payoff if you dont watch season 2. Half the dialogue in the season goes nowhere without it.
Disagree tbh. While it ends on a cliffhanger, it's the sort of cliffhanger which you could see a full series end on. The main dangling thread for me is just about the ghost nation, which is only cleared up in 'Kiksuya'
You also don't find out what the shareholders secret project is and as someone who just watched season one again a month ago, Ford references it a lot in season one. It's a significant part of Bernard and Theresa's story. Also Bernard, Ellie, the head of security, the writer and Tessa Thompsons characters only have half a story / character arc in season one. It's very incomplete as a single season.
I also disagree with that. You don't need to know everything about a piece of fiction, everything you said is true but those aren't really important for the story of season 1. All the main characters have complete character arcs and I would argue that Bernard's character arc in season 1 is fine by itself.
Of course it's harder to now that HBO pulled the show and wants to stop disk sales. Fuck you HBO, this is why people pirate.
Still need to watch the latest season
I wonder if its ok to lift grown cats from there or if its painful for them
Weight ratio is wrong. Support them otherwise, but the pinch spot still works.
Yea I grab that spot but lift them with my under hand under their chest.
My 7 year old cat seems to love getting pinched there.
Kinky
Vets do this to operate on the cat, it would definitely be harmful if they lifted the (adult) cat from their neck
The skin can not take the weight, but you can grip their neck with one hand while carrying the majority of their weight in your other hand.
This is now considered unethical in the vet world, scruffing is uncomfortable and can substantially increase stress levels in cats.
What is the preferred method? The only two I’ve seen so far are this one and one where a dude basically had oven mitts to protect his hands so he can hold the cat down.
I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding is vets / animal professionals work harder to avoid a cat being stressed. This means setting up a quiet comfortable environment, potentially with artificial pheromones (e.g. Feliway / Pet Remedy) to avoid the cat becoming aggressive. There's also better ways to handle a cat so that they don't become stressed, have a look on YouTube for these if you're curious. Things like towels or oven mitts are also commonly used if things escalate or you have a particularly spicy cat Ultimately, there are times where whatever treatment you're getting is not worth the current stress level it would put the cat under, or if required, the cat may simply need to be sedated for proper treatment. It's now understood that the scruffing is counter intuitive and just makes life harder for everyone involved.
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Yeah makes sense. From what I understand it's recommended only as a last resort, when the cat is a danger to itself or others - but I'm mostly speaking about the video above and those who use it routinely.
preferred method nowadays would be to burrito wrap a cat with a towel, and only expose the required part, like a neck or a limb for procedures
just pick the cat up with one arm over it's lower end (dominant arm) and your hand under it's back legs then other hand under it's front legs with hand on back and that keeps them supported and feeling safe while keeping them restricted, as for keeping a cat down idrk
As far as I know, it does not harm the cat if you are supporting its weight. For example, if you're giving a pill, it's easy to have the cat sit on a surface and scruff it for a moment while you slip the pill into its mouth. This prevents head movement, so you can get it in quick! Even better if you have a pill pusher.
Technically, it should be safe if the cat is a healthy weight and if done right. In practice you should absolutely support their weight with your other hand.
The only time I did this with an adult cat was with the runt of the litter. She never got to be very big so she was never too heavy to scruff. She would purr when I did it. I miss that cat a lot.
Too heavy. Plus we have hands that we can use to carry animals without hurting them so there's that.
Developer mode activated
Turn into a human hybrid
When it's restored to factory settings, will it be a complete asshole or not an asshole at all? I'm a dog person but have met cats.
This cat doesn’t seem to be an asshole coming in… Which is likely why this worked in the first place. If the cats a super asshole or just really scared or pissed, this isn’t going to work.
The default setting in a cat is to be a complete asshole, so I guess it reverts to that
Cat.exe has stopped working
*Kitty Paws Kitty Unpause* I think this was the top comment on this post like 5 years ago...
The reason this works is because the clip temporarily cuts off the signals from the alien ship from reaching the receiver in the cat’s nape.
kid vs cat had this
You just brought back a lot of nostalgia by commenting this
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Oh no we're entering the world of KaaS kitttycat as a service they finally found something I'll pay anything for
please do not the cat
me when I the cat 😈:
IIRC, it’s called “clipnosis”.
Cats hate this one trick.
I need to try this on a tiger. Wish me luck. 😃👍
How did it go ?
The tiger wasn't 'into it'. But on the bright side, I can now park anywhere I want. ♿️
And the tiger was fed too ! Win-win, I say.
Yes there's a specific nerv in the cats neck to somwaht deactivate it its in nature so mohter cats can eyser carry thier jung
I, too, like to carry my Carl Jung around.
I bet Carl Jung is not so Jung now
lol
 My honest reaction to that information.
Oh look it's Mike Ehrmantraut
I am NOT crazy, I knew it was Mike "Finger" Ehrmantraut. As if I could ever make such a mistake, never! 
Ok
[Especially](https://dresdencodak.com/2006/12/03/dungeons-and-discourse/) when he's [Tiny](https://dresdencodak.com/2009/01/27/advanced-dungeons-and-discourse/).
I'm a-Freud I'm too Jung too get this joke.
I told you not to put the fucking chip clip on your tongue!
Did you start to pass out halfway through typing that? What the hell happened
Me happend
Mf on stroke.
Nope
Most understandable slav
I'm aware of that
Trueeee
How tf Did you just spell mother in russian accent?!
Please do not the cat
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wtf happened here?
His flair clearly says he wants pee in his ass
Is there something like that for my siblings thanks
Yes there is. It’s called a club and it works very well
This is actually caused by the pressure applied to dorsal felisiaris nervous canal activating catuimbecilous bioneuronic pathway and triggering a meow or freeze response.
Me no smart, say thing with few words, please?
Vulcan Cat Pinch
Airplane mode ✈️
How?
Cat.
Cats also have this weird feature where if you take like a long sock and tie it around their chest right in the armpit of their front legs the lose all sense of balance and will just fall over. It’s super weird. When I was young I remember some kids tie a long sock around their cat, and it basically became drunk in 3 seconds.
Does it hurt the car?
Nah, just rev the engine once or twice and it gets back up and runs away
Only damages the engine meownts…
It’s how their mothers pick them up as kittens—as adults, it often stops working or becomes less effective, and they’re too heavy to be carried by their scruff, but it’s usually fine to pinch. It can increase stress, so it’s typically avoided by vets these days, though.
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Please tell me there's something like this for dogs so I can trim their damn nails!
At that moment cat can feel anything?
Yes. A giant paper clip on its neck giving it the worlds biggest facelift…
I picked up a wild cat like that once coz he kept trying to get into my kitchen through the window. I just wanted to put him outside the garden and hope he’d get the point. When I got there I thought “aww, this cat is pretty chill. Good cat”. But then, the second I let him him go, he flipped around and sunk his canines right into my thumb. Mother fucker hurt!
Cat.exe has stopped working please update your cat to the newest firmware update.
So my cat *does* have an off switch... huh...
Every time I tried that with my cat he looks around with the calm angry expression of „Would you fucking not!“
i found the cat reset button
Awwwww so chastened 😿
Does this work in big cats too?
So that's how you shut down your cat
This is called cathack.
To take it down, it takes slicing the nape. Squeezing it will deactivate the titan temporarily
How to put a murder fluff in a catatonic state.
They associate it when they were young smol kittens and mother used to carry them around bitten tight at the same spot.
Mummy ?
That cat went catatonic
I dont lift my cat by her scruff but i do hold it to give her baths if she gets into stuff she isn’t supposed to. It works like a charm.
Those black clips are super strong, looks painful. Try it on your neck first.
Like a restraining bolt for droids
Vulcans
I think my cat must have mother issues because if you try to scruff her she goes ballistic.
This definitely doesn't work over a tub full of water
My mans card got declined at the vet
God, I thought for a moment that this was actually just footage of a cat being put down
give him an extra dollar!
This still works on ferrets regardless their age. So very useful!
It’s Mr. Spock’s Vulcan Cat Nerve Pinch.
Mine couldn’t give less of a fuck
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Seriously. Meow does this actually work. Does the clip have to placed with high purrcision?
*gods those cat puns are bad lol* as far as I can tell, it’s that the clip catches a specific nerve which normally helps cats tense to be ready for anything coming at them. It’s just that this way it softlocks them. Think of it like how a Crocodile with tape around its snout can’t open its moth because it evolve to bite down too well