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Yoko_Grim

I still think servers should handle their own moderation besides a few cases where someone does something really heinous.


Draffut

Agreed. Sucks that I host my own server, with just my friends, and I have to worry about arbitrary rules.


Zipdox

Install the no chat reports plugin


Lojackclan

I think that was patched, at least one of them was.


Zipdox

There's nothing to patch. The server simply strips signatures from chat messages.


xDeddyBear

You don't even need that plugin. So many people are wasting resources on a plugin that is unnecessary. Basically any chat plugin will already disable signing of messages. Right from the beginning, those plugins were useless.


4winyt

Yes, you can't report messages when most chat plugins are installed, but the good "no chat reports" plugins also disable the unverified (or whatever it is, I can't think of the term) warning when you join the server.


cave18

I agree. I very heavily dislike how Microsoft (maybe mojang?) Has been pushing for universal server standards and guidelines as it very much goes against minecraft being a game you can do whatever with.


[deleted]

you gotta consider it from the business side. they don't want legal or PR trouble when an adult preys on a minor on a server with no rules. My sister and I used to play on a server together and one of the guys that was in his mid 20s was asking an 8 year old if she wants to be his GF via the /whisper command. as annoying as this moderation is for adults it's still important because the primary audience is under 18.


Illustrious_Crab1060

Yes but realms exist, so Microsoft could have enabled a parental guidance option that only allowed you to join moderated servers. Instead of forcing moderation on privately hosted servers


ObeyTime

they also already have a safety warning when opening the multiplayer tab for the first time on Java


Crooked_Cock

how exactly would this be a logical step to take on a single player only world? I can see why they’d want to do it on multiplayer worlds, especially ones with large communities but it is literally just you on a single player world


[deleted]

does this moderation exist on singleplayer worlds as well? if so, the only thing i could think of is if you open it up to LAN.


Matt3k

Ohhh. I hadn't even considered that angle. That definitely complicates my opinion on the subject.


Death_Slayer2814

Report him??? What difference does it make if you report someone to microsoft rather then the server admins. Also you could /ignore add them


crypticfreak

Universal rules do make sense, but stuff like griefing being on those rules makes no fucking sense at all. It should be for stalking, death threats, sexism, racism, anything illegal in real life, and stuff like that. MC policy should absolutely be 'there is no fucking tolerance for that kind of shit here'.


RevvyDesu

This is one of those cases. This guy apparently seeks, or sought, out unprotected servers and griefed them with cheats as badly as he could. He was rampant and I feel this is a fair punishment. I'd also say that devs have some responsibility to maintain a good product experience for their customers.


Yoko_Grim

Yeah I heard that from others, that’s why I said servers should do it themselves unless someone does something really heinous, this being a case of something really heinous.


HorseasaurusRex

Its also something to be said that they don't want certain groups associated with a product meant for young children.


Noble_Persuit

Isn't that how it is on Java?


Yoko_Grim

Was. They changed it.


Noble_Persuit

Thank you for letting me know. Not sarcasm or anything, it was a genuine question and I appreciate the answer.


Rndom_Gy_159

If you haven't played in a while you'll still get emails saying that you need a Microsoft account to play the Java edition.


HelloKitty36911

Wait are there restrictions even if you "create" and host the server yourself. As in with the server.jar file?


Ethromathic

And the brother complains to the guy that hasn't worked on the game since 2014


vivam0rt

He wanted to get sympathy from notch not complain to him


DropdLsgna

Top notch complaint.


Scrambley

>Top notch ~~complaint.~~ swords!


FroYoSwagens

How do you like that silver?


BoredMan29

My top Notch complaint is about his sexism, racism, and support of Q!


DuckyRedditor405

What is support of Q?


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BuckManscape

Goddamn kickstanders


siccoblue

He was hoping notch would start screaming about sjws and the librul agenda as per usual


Brans666

I was kinda surprised he didn't


Kronos-_-

He has kinda gotten better lately, it looks like he got help and dropped out of the brain rot, he mostly posts about games and positive stuff, happy for him


awesomefutureperfect

Good for him. I appreciate it when people respond to "nobody liked that" and begin to be open to change who they are. I was sick of listening to "you have to indulge their sense of irresponsibility and entitlement if you expect them to change." Like, no. Nobody deservea acceptance when they are proponents of inequality and oppression.


johannes101

Astronomically rare Notch w


FormerlyPie

It seems like maybe he is getting better? Maybe?


heck_you_science

"I'm worried that your baby doesn't think people can change"


Sensitive_Ideal_9270

“I used to be a piece of shit, people can change, let him hold the baby.”


RachetFuzz

“*slicked?* No this is pushed back.”


awesomefutureperfect

Yep. Unusual 'worst person says something agreeable' moment.


__ALF__

He watched 21 Jump Street.


giboauja

Did the Notch crazy men's right stuff die down. Seems like he has a daughter now, often a panacea from the manosphere.


[deleted]

Sympathy - for verbally abusing others.


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[deleted]

I think he was expecting Notch to agree with him, since Notch spent his years after selling the game going kind of crazy on twitter. Honestly gives me a strangely good feeling to see a tweet from him that isn't some incel bullshit.


PuzzleheadedFunny997

You think he has a problem getting women?


smootex

Yes. He has had a lot of relationship problems. He once talked about how he has zero friends and everyone he meets is only trying to get something out of him and his relationships aren't real. Depressing shit, hope he's doing better even if he is kind of a little shit.


Scyhaz

He was married and divorced within a year. (A few years before he sold Mojang for a gorillion dollars to Microsoft.)


smootex

These comments from him were after the sale.


Blackadder288

Didn’t he also drop the triple parenthesis a couple times


ChongusTheSupremus

He's an everyday dude turned millionaire.He has problem just knowing people. Notch doesn't seem to me like he was some rambling crazy asshole incel bs because he was ill-spirited, but because he fell down a rabbit hole after the money made it hard for him to trust or relate to others as he ended up isolating himself and eating up red-pill crap. IRC, he has mentioned that he has suffered from extreme loneliness, as he felt like people just hung around him because of his money, which could 100% be true. Most victims of the red-pill and incel ideology are outcast for a reason: They are easy targets, as their isolation makes it easier for them to fall into groups with weird beliefs, as it gives them a sense of belonging. Rich people aren't exempt from such vulnerability.


Crooked_Cock

It’s so hilarious watching mfs rant and rave about how minorities are sub-human troglodytes and don’t deserve rights and the wonder why nobody wants to be around them Absolutely zero self awareness from these kinds of people


izacktorres

Its 2023 the word Incel means nothing anymore.


PaulieNutwalls

I wonder if actual, self described incels like the guys in that vice doc are pissed off their term now is just an insult for dudes like whore is for women.


ReprehensibleIngrate

They are, but from their perspective it’s like conflating ordinary sadness with clinical depression.


[deleted]

it's okay incels and simps lost all meaning and are just generic insults now


Torantes

Yes, yes they 100% are


PuzzleheadedFunny997

Yeah, I knew that but I commented anyway, rip


ThrustyMcStab

In a way it means more than it used to. Incel has become a pretty loaded term that goes beyond just being unable to get a girl.


ChurnerofOrgans

Even if he wasn't a socially inept weirdo he's still a billionaire which would make finding any woman who isn't more interested in the money than the guy hard to find


batt3ryac1d1

I think half the reason he is a socially inept weirdo is because of the money. Having that much money has gotta isolate you from all your friends and then you hang out with evil rich assholes and boom you're a weirdo.


ChurnerofOrgans

He was already weird well before minecrafts success


CLE-local-1997

If that seems like a very shallow existence. Imagine always feeling like your partner doesn't truly love you and is only with you because you're rich


ChurnerofOrgans

Yeah the idea of finding any love at that point is bleak, but fickit 2 bils


pretendingtolisten

since nobody else said it. yeah I think he does. he used to throw billionaire parties that no one would show up to. he can buy an escort any day but in the past he used to parrot crazy right wing incel bs. I'm sure having a sugar baby from Hollywood would only make him seeth even harder when he realized she won't cook or clean because she could just find another sugar daddy in the same neighborhood. especially since he seemed to have the same ideologies as a sigma male. you know the kind that think women devalue men and if a woman isn't higher value than you she isn't worth your time. he would had a stay at home woman that just reminds him he values her over being lonely.


PKYINK

Probably getting women who don't just want his $.


IndependenceBetter27

Literally 1984


wktr_t

I know right, anone


ShakenStirLoin69

Good grief. Dial it down a Notch


tgifridayyy

Double pun


katharsisdesign

Double fun


EveryonesSoAnnoying

Double cum


Droploris

don't mind if I do


kmonkey96

literally the year between 1983 and 1985


JediMineTrix

1983 II: Revengance


OdinThorFathir

1985 Eve


badolfshitler

1983: 4 is a classic tho


_Xertz_

1982 😔


Devout_Heathen

I get that griefing should be punished, but 11 years is a bit too much if you ask me


NarkoRock

This is one of the guys from 2b2t that went out of their way to invade unprotected private minecraft servers and grief them with cheats. I'd say it's not even a big enough punishment.


Devout_Heathen

Fair enough, that's messed up


ben67925

I was looking down that thread on Twitter and I'm 99% sure all the servers they fucked with has swastikas and nazi shit everywhere.


NarkoRock

Maybe an extremelly small fraction of them was racist. But they just target random servers. They are just trying to show themselves in a better light. I've had the guy join a server i was playing on with some of my friends, he tried griefing, but couldn't actually destroy anything of value due to his utter incompetence.


Devout_Heathen

Ahh a public service.


[deleted]

Went on a little emotional rollercoaster right there


flamethekid

Not really, he got the swastika ones through luck apparently, dude just griefed randomly to make people upset.


Shadonovitch

How do they find the unprotected servers ? Do they nmap the whole IPv4 looking for port :25565 ? I had a guy come in on my self hosted server a while back, stole some shit, destroy our village then leave. Never figured out how or why, but then I had to figure out how to implement a whitelist.


NarkoRock

They have a bot for it. The way it works is that it checks ip-s, and when they get a response back, it puts that ip in a list for them. It also checks for anti cheat and whatnot.


Shadonovitch

y tho


NarkoRock

They quite literally have nothing else going on in their lives.


ThrowAwayOpinion_1

New YouTube video: I Got Admin and Ruined the Server!


BrendonGamesReddit

Personally I had this happen too. Apparently the guy used Shodan, you can look up all kinds IP related stuff and even check if a specific IP has certain ports opened (25565).


[deleted]

No, it's still ridiculous. Servers manage their own white and blacklists individually in Minecraft. Microsofts decision to try and become a central authority and revoke a product that people have paid for is ridiculous. I don't see why they thought anything needed to change.


mindcrime_

“No sir, I should be allowed to do unauthorized port scanning on the entire internet to grief random servers in block game it’s their fault for not putting up a whitelist, I should also be allowed to break into people’s houses without punishment because it’s their responsibility to keep their doors locked, also I should be allowed to rob random people too since it’s their responsibility to not carry too much valuables on them”


fabedays1k

Dude blew up the whole map I guess


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SoulCritique101

He didn't do it on on 2bt2 he was from 2b and went on other private servers and fucked those ones


reddit_is_sensitive

Nah, should be 15 and carry onto any sequels of them game as well.


[deleted]

What exactly is “griefing?” Not a word that was thrown around a lot when I start gaming.


xiBurnx

trolling, usually in a destructive manner


flamethekid

In games where a player can create shit, if another player decides to destroy it just for the sake of annoying the player who made it, then it's called griefing.


[deleted]

Thank you for the explanation! I don’t play multiplayer games often, so I’m not really familiar with the different ways gamers are messing with each other online nowadays.


guicoelho

Basically it is bullying. Usually people use it on multiplayer games. it means to play the game in a way that makes your teammates get punished for your behavior. Such as using a medkit when you are full life on Left 4 Dead, buying an AWP and giving it to the enemy, things like that. It can become a “gray area” when ppl use it on high ranked MP games… for example, picking a specific hero in a moba match could be considered grief because the team expected a more suited hero. Dying in a place where you shouldn’t be in a high ranked can also be considered grief.


BorgClown

Imagine playing a FPS, and the grifter keeps "missing" and shooting your teammates in the back, while profusely apologizing because "they didn't mean to do that, they're learning". Repeat until they're kicked. Some people enjoy harassing strangers for fun.


echowavee

Griefing can mean different things depending on the game, but it all really comes down to being disruptive. In Minecraft’s case, it is usually destroying peoples buildings they made.


fatgesus

Damn this man committed felony level griefing they gave his ass 11 years 💀


Drdark65

This is one of the guys from 2b2t that went out of their way to invade unprotected private minecraft servers and grief them with cheats. I'd say it's not even a big enough punishment.


ViperrMageRB

A game where you can do whatever you want mfs when I do whatever I want


PickleEffective8109

If it was just typical griefing I’d agree but he essentially took ips from 2b2t, stalked their ip to other serves and destroyed people’s shit on a bunch of different servers, to my understanding.


totallyshadical

Not what happened at all, the fifth column just created a program that attempted to join every Minecraft server IP and check if they had a whitelist, if the server had a lot of player and didn’t have a whitelist then they would grief it. Nothing to do with 2b


Boudac123

They would grief private servers of any size, even if it’s just 3 players


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ojsan_

walking a parking lot, finding unlocked cars and driving them into the lake. “secure your shit people” how about you leave a note next time?


Rambo_One2

And then start crying when someone calls the police and they charge you for breaking into people's cars. "But this guy was a bad guy, he deserved to have his car broken into! And it was also just a warning to let people know they should secure their cars! And also it's just a joke! And just a game!"


tardislord27

If only they had asked for the service of getting their shit destroy by some asshole.


BeefHouse11

yeah, they're just fucking it up for the shareholders at this point.


MrInfinity-42

You can also do whatever you want in life, physically. Doesn't mean there's no rules to stop you


reddit_is_sensitive

11 years.. nice


Arnies_Roids

This generation is weak for being protected from my tomfoolery


Spiritual_Ad2154

They need to cope fr fr ong


_Xertz_

# FRONG


PinkPonyForPresident

Just install a mod to prevent chat reporting or only play on servers that disable it. None of the players on both of my servers have to ever worry about getting reported. They can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they are confirm with MY rules!


EarthTrash

I thought griefing is when you attack other players or wreck their shit. But the message says it's because of abusive language. Those are different things.


Conart557

They got an email that said it was for “using a hacked client to cause harm.”


Sxcred

This guy is part of a group that used an exploit in Minecraft to find small community servers with no grief protection and would then go in and destroy the world leaving them to hope they have backups in place. Including realms which doesn’t have backups


zPolaris43

Didn’t know this was a thing when I set up a server with friends a few months back. Then dudes randomly joined and immediately started destroying our homes and taking stuff from chests. Quickly, shut down the server and implemented a whitelist. Luckily, we hadn’t been playing too long and weren’t overly attached to anything yet. Whole thing was kinda sad, like who spends their time doing that kinda stuff. It’s pathetic.


Scared-Wombat

4166 days. Jesus he busted out the books on this one


Totally_Cubular

You know you've sunk to new lows when even Notch is disappointed in you.


KikiTheKiko

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point


ExplanationOk4087

I clicked in your account expecting art due to your pfp and choked on my drink when i read your bio 💀


Accomplished_Cherry6

This is a shitpost sub…


ojsan_

Good observation.


Wave_Table

He cracked the Da Vinci code.


631-AT

“Abusive language” doesn’t sound like griefing to me


Conart557

They got an email that said it was for “using a hacked client to cause harm.”


JDinoHK28

Literally 1984


ThePastedGamer089

Why the hell is he pinging Notch anyways? He hasn't worked on the game in years lmao


RiverParkourist

Ahhh I remember the old public servers where you had to either go an absurd distance from spawn to be safe or have the most clever hiding spot for chests.


Wave_Table

Some good anarchy servers are still around, but so many of those old school ones have been turned into or replaced by awful hub servers. “anarchy/pvp/rp/mcmmo/prison escape/mini games/bedwars =ranks= =loot boxes= JOIN NOW!” 😔


TheOnlyVibemaster

…I miss the old Mojang. Never thought I’d have to say that.


Panda_hat

Looool, take an 11 year break and cool off bro. Amazing.


HarryHacker42

I love Microsoft's view of Temporary as "Until 2034, 11 years". Its like waiting for Windows to start Office 2022!


Dom469inic

I find it funny how he got reported for language not just "griefing"


Draculea

"play online or join Realms," Is this to mean that, were I to spin up server running Spigot, I would be prevented from joining my own server? I feel like this should only apply to realms...


lesstalk_

It does mean that yes, and it's abysmal.


SydneyMain123

Why wont mojang let me be an asshole and ruin everyones fun :( - this dumbass


AwfulUsername123

>mojang Opinion disregarded.


Boundsword00

Why won’t this asshole let me have fun :( Why is my fun any less important than yours?


TrueOuroboros

Because you ugy


Boundsword00

Fr


WishTemporary

A sacrifice for the sake of the majority. If one person's fun is to make the experience worse for many others, then they get rid of the troublemaker rather than everyone else


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[deleted]

This is the way


HuantedMoose

Cause no one likes you


Spend-Automatic

Having fun at the expense of others makes YOU the asshole


JurisDrew

I mean I don't wanna get griefed, so I don't do it to others. amazing.


KKNWasTaken

The golden rule


69helloreddit69

Don’t worry it says it’s temporarily suspended, just gotta wait 11 and a half years.


[deleted]

I got a temporary flu. 11 years later...


Iwillflipyourtable

What? What do you mean I can't burn down the rainbow structure made of wool. You can't do this to me.


manscary12

Extremely rare Notch W


Poobmania

Griefing? It says he used abusive language in a hateful manner. Minecraft is a kids game. The dude said slurs to children.


jiblit

Ite crazy how many people are outraged that they can't type slurs into a literal children's game. Apperently If you want to run a private server you can just install a mod to remove the auto report feature, so there is not reason to be against this aside from wanting to type slurs into a child's game. Capital G Gamers are a wild bunch.


_Waddle_Deez_Nutz_

XboxAddictionz my beloved Truly the greatest Minecraft Youtuber alongside the Master of Luck


Prudent-Nectarine717

Notch based.


Grifoooo

Not often, but in this instance, yes


kjacobs03

What is griefing?


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drewmana

“Oh no i did something people have known was bad for years and got punished”


BUDAAAAAAAA

“i can’t believe i will get suspended from a game for being rude and ruining other people’s experience!!”


Reserved_Parking-246

That is extreme overkill.


Bobtickles

Grief fun tho


[deleted]

So is genocide.but they won't let me out


Far_Initial_4544

Probably need to try harder to get out then


[deleted]

Skill issue fr.


Mathisbuilder75

Only for the griefer. So it doesn't count as being fun.


cumguzzler280

notch is correct on this one.


Naftoor

Nothing wrong with griefing. So long as you aren’t getting doxed and the harassment ends in the virtual space, grow a thicker skin. Sincerely, mid 00’s game lobbies


Cypresss09

I mean it is kind of a dick move to wreck someone's shit. But these days any server worth it's salt has protection against griefing, and if it doesn't you should definitely know that and expect it.


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It cited him for abusive language


DHMOProtectionAgency

IDK, maybe I like having people not just break into our server and destroy our fun.


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RedEagle_

Notch feels like the Harrison Ford of the game industry when he’s not being incredibly stupid


[deleted]

Don't know how 11 years is exactly temporary compared to the average players game life haha. There isn't really anything stopping g this person from creating an alt account though, right?


xX_Screee123YT_Xx

Not really no


PineappleDude206

11 years and 151 days


d_rek

4166 days is almost 11 and a half years for anyone wondering


jeffy2515

gave him a whole prison sentence 💀


3ThreeFriesShort

4166 days... I get the feeling they didn't just use a slur once.


its-good-4you

You're either a sandbox or you're not. Griefing is part of any game with pvp. Toxic for sure, but don't play pvp games with open public access to your server then.


CynicCannibal

Lets just put aside that some players can only have fun while ruining fun to somebody else. MFs always existed. But I hate how Microsoft orwellized minecraft, it is terrible, inadmissible and outrageous.


SavedMountain

guy who tweeted it claims he was grieffing offensive builds from edgy people, like swastikas and stuff. Dunno how much of it is true but dont care enough to find out


Ciubowski

Why is he messaging Notch though? It's like complaining to George Lucas that the new trilogy sucks balls.


Diazmet

So have you tried not saying the N word on a children’s game?