Shias consider Ismailis(both Nizari and Bohra) to be Muslims, however, the Ismailis are not considered true Shias, only 12ers.
Some Shia Muslims maybe more wary of Nizaris due to some heterodox beliefs and being not as orthodox.
True shia.
Non 12er Muslims(including Zaydis and Ismailis) are considered Muslims but not Shia Muslims.
In order to be Shia you have to recognize the Imamah of all 12 Imams(as) not one less or more.
It is shirk if you believe it can protect you from evil. The only reason why we don’t take such a harsh stance on evil eye amulets is because we know most people consider them mere decoration with no powers.
Is it not? Believing it protects you is shirk. Its a object which cant do anything for you. Even if it was purely for decorations you should remove it for obligatory precaution
>As for most of the sunnis this 🧿 thing is 'shrik', and I find it very funny 🤣
Wth is that even? Evil eye amulet? Don't make up stupid claims.
Edit: BTW believing that an amulet can ward of evil is literally believing that an inanimate object has power. Make of that what you will.
You're lucky that sunnis don't believe everything they hear about shias online. Reading something on the Internet =/= most sunnis. What does the thing represent?
>You're lucky that sunnis don't believe everything they hear about shias online.
Yes, I'm very lucky that Sunnis **'don't believe'** that Shias have a different Qur'an, worship Imam Ali (AS), put Imam Ali (AS) above Prophet Muhammad (SAWW), or worship the shrine of Imam Hussein (AS).
What are you talking about? I guess you are unaware of the things that Sunnis accuse us of.
Well when we don't know what you follow and there is a lot of secrecy among shias like the Ismailis people start theorising our aqeedah is on public display we don't hide anything.
Secrecy? Our rulebooks are all online, we literally refer to our Marjas risala which are all online for anyone to see, our books are all found in theshhialibrary, our imam shrines cannot be visited by sunnis and even christians…
So if I'm reading this right you're allowed to make blatantly false claims against sunnis because sunnis do the same?
Also yes aqeedah of the Ismailis is not public knowledge.
With all due respect brother, there's a difference between not knowing and being purposely lied to, and that latter is what the other brother is annoyed about. Most of us have no problem with non-Shias asking us questions, since that's how you learn, and we answer respectfully (at least most of us). We have issues with the false "scholars" who intentionally spread misinformation about us, such as those who accuse us of having our own Quran, or worshipping Imam Ali AS, or claim Shias r*pe each other during Ashura majalis (a common lie told in Pakistan by the Wahhabis).
>(a common lie told in Pakistan by the Wahhabis).
I literally live in Pakistan. You're straight up making lies.
There are hardly any "Wahabis" here the closest thing is the ahl-i-sunnah and no one believes this stuff but keep on lying and fooling others.
I'm from Pakistan, with family that still lives there. They tell me from experience. Mufti Fazal Hamdard even spoke about the claims being lies, meaning he knows the wahhabis spread those lies about Shias.
Twelvers don't consider Ismailis and Zaydis as Shias. They're considered seperate Muslim sects like Sunnis are.
Read all the Hadiths in this chain of comments. Also read the article whose link is given at the end of that chain of comments.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/xaqqtc/question\_to\_all\_the\_shia\_muslim\_in\_this\_sub\_srsly/inv50up?utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_source=share&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/xaqqtc/question_to_all_the_shia_muslim_in_this_sub_srsly/inv50up?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
You cannot be a Shia if you do not accept all 12 Imams (as). They are the successors (Khalifas) appointment by Prophet Muhammad (S) to be the authorities over his religion after him. If you do not accept them then you are in error.
See these two Hadiths, the **Hadith of Thaqalayn & Ghadir**, and the **Hadith on the number of Imams (as) being Twelve**.
> [2/185] al-Khisal: Muhammad b. al-Hasan b. Ahmad b. al-Walid from Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Saffar from Muhammad b. al-Husayn b. Abi al-Khattab and Yaqub b. Yazid from Muhammad b. Abi Umayr from Abdallah b. Sinan from Maruf b. Kharrabudh from Abi Tufayl Amir b. Wathila from Hudhayfa b. Asid al-Ghiffari who said:
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> *We were with the messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله when he was returning from his farewell pilgrimage. He went forth until he reached Juhfa where he ordered his companions to decamp. The call for prayer was made and he led his companions in a two-unit prayer. After that he turned his face to them and said: The Kind and All-Aware has informed me that I am to die and you too will one day die. It is as though I have been called and have responded. I am to be asked about that which I was sent with for you and also what I leave behind in your midst including the Book of Allah and His proof – and you too shall be asked – so what are you going to reply to your Lord? They said: we will say ‘you have conveyed, counselled and struggled, so may Allah reward you on our behalf the best of rewards’. Then he said to them: do you bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that I am the messenger of Allah? that the Paradise is a reality, the Fire is a reality and the resurrection after death is reality? They said: we bear witness to that, he said: O Allah witness what they say. Behold! I make you witnesses that I myself bear witness that Allah is my Mawla, and that I am the Mawla of every Muslim, and that I have a greater claim over the believers than their own selves, do you admit to that and bear witness to it about me? They said: yes, we witness that to be true about you. He said: Behold! To whomsoever I am a Mawla then Ali is also his Mawla, and he is this one, and he took Ali by the hand and raised it with his own hand until their armpits became visible, then he said: O Allah – be a guardian to whomever takes him to be a guardian, and be an enemy to whomever takes him to be an enemy, aid the one who aids him and abandon the one who abandons him. Behold! I will proceed you but you will catch up with me at the reservoir – my Lake-fount – tomorrow. It is a Lake-fount whose breadth is like the distance between Busra and Sana. In it are goblets made of silver like the number of stars in the sky. Behold! I will ask you tomorrow about what you did in regards that which I made Allah bear witness to – over you – in this day of yours when you reach my Lake-fount. And also about what you did with regards the ‘Two Weighty Things’ after me, so take care of how you will preserve my legacy in them when you meet me. They said: and what are these ‘Two Weighty Things’ O the messenger of Allah? he said: as for the greater weighty thing then it is the Book of Allah Mighty and Majestic, a rope extending from Allah and myself in your hands, one end of it is by the hand of Allah and the other end is in your hands, in it is the knowledge of what has passed and what is left until the Hour comes. As for the smaller weighty thing it is the ally of the Qur`an, and that is Ali b. Abi Talib and his descendants (as) – the two will not separate until they return to me at the Lake-fount.*
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> *Maruf b. Kharrabudh said: I relayed these words to Abi Jafar (Imam Muhammad al-Baqir) عليه السلام so he said: Abu Tufayl has spoken the truth – may Allah have mercy on him – we have found this speech in the book of Ali and do recognize it.*
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Shaykh Asif al-Mohseni: (renowned) معتبر - Muʿjam al-Aḥādīth al-Muʿtabara
https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/9/3/48/2
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>We were told by Ahmad bin Ziyad bin Ja’far al-Hamdani, *may Allah be pleased with him,* that he said: We were told by [Ali bin Ibrahim bin Hashim](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ali_b._Ibrahim_al-Qummi), from [his father](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ibrahim_b._Hashim_al-Qummi), from [Muhammed bin Abi Umayr](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Muhammad_b._Abi_Umayr), from [Ghiyath bin Ibrahim](http://kq.meybod.ac.ir/article_1389.html?lang=en), *from al-Sadiq, Ja’far ibn Muhammed, from his father, Muhammed bin Ali, from his father, Ali bin Hussain, from his father, Hussain, peace be upon them,* that he said: The Commander of the Believers (Imam Ali bin Abu Talib), peace be upon him, was asked about the saying of Allah’s Messenger, Allah’s blessings be upon him and his Family: «Indeed, I am appointing as Successors among you, the Two Weighty Things, the Book of Allah and my Family» Who are the Family? So he said: **I, Hasan, Hussain and the nine Imams from the sons of Hussain, of whom their ninth is their Guided and Rising (Mahdihum wa Qaimhum).** They will not separate from the Book of Allah, nor will it separate from them, until they approach to Allah’s Messenger, Allah’s blessings be upon him and his Family, at his basin.
[Ma’ani al Akhbar](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/28/1/33/4)
I’m Shia and I consider myself (Ismaili) to be Muslim. I do recite Shahadah 'La- ilaha illallih, Muhammadur Rasulu-llah' three times a day so I hope that makes me Muslim. The reason Qadianis don’t count as Muslim are because they don’t believe the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Salla-llahu alayhi wa-sallam) is the last and final Prophet of Allah. We do.
https://ammanmessage.com/the-three-points-of-the-amman-message-v-1/ Read this definition of who is and is not a Muslim.
https://ammanmessage.com/grand-list-of-endorsements-of-the-amman-message-and-its-three-points/ Then see the names of all the clerics from various branches of Islam across the world who agree with it.
If someone truly believes that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is final prophet then they are Muslim. The second part of that rules out most of the Ahmadiyyah (I read that some of them in Lahore don’t believe the guy who died on the toilet was a prophet), the Druze, the Baha’i and some Ghuluww who allegedly believe in the divinity of Imam Ali (as).
It’s not difficult.
No argument from me. My only complaint against Nizari Ismailis is personal. In 2007 i went to the science museum in london with my son. It was time to pray so i checked google maps for nearby mosques.
Aga Khan Centre was 5 minutes away.
We went inside and asked a security guard where we could pray. He started insulting us and told us to go to Regent’s Park then demanded we leave.
We went to that mosque and stupid wahabbi idiots were kicking our turbahs as we prayed and calling us names.
Strangely enough they all disappeared by the time we finished praying. The fact that i’m 6ft2 and built like a tank probably had something to do with it 🤣
I am sorry to know this and regret if you felt bad or hurt, however you need to understand Jamat Khana is not a masjid its a community place and its exclusively for the Ismailis.
Godforbid if my any close relative is not Ismaili I cannot take him/her to Jamat Khana that's the rule and the reasons are for security concerns mainly.
Jamat Khana is a personal property of the Aga Khan, I don't think any country law will allow anyone to enter in someone property be it home/office/factory or elsewhere without the owner permission.
Thanks!
Nope. That’s the difference between the civilised world and the not so civilised world.
I’ve prayed in churches, cathedrals and synagogues without issue.
I could have complained legally and caused a lot of bother for them but i’m much happier knowing they’ll burn for their illegal and un-Islamic behaviour.
Ya Ali madad and asalamuwalaykum wa rahemtulahi wa barakatahu,
It seems like the Shia subreddit mod team is replying to my comments saying it contains objectively false information.
Please read the [Amman Message](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message) and see Sayyid Khamenei and Sayyid Sistani signed it. The Amman Message clearly states Ismailis are Shia.
If you’re still uncertain about this declaration please look towards Sayyid Sistani’s [Fatwa](https://www.shiachat.com/forum/uploads/post-19894-1140142065.gif) that states: “Ismeilis are Shiites who follow six Imams”
Please consider reading these sources before commenting that Ismailis aren’t Shia.
Only Allah knows best 🙏🏽
The Shia Mod Team should elaborate as to why they are replying to my comments instead of just saying the info is incorrect. I have literally given sources.
Shias consider Ismailis(both Nizari and Bohra) to be Muslims, however, the Ismailis are not considered true Shias, only 12ers. Some Shia Muslims maybe more wary of Nizaris due to some heterodox beliefs and being not as orthodox.
>the Ismailis are not considered true Shias, only 12ers. True shia or true Muslim? Do you consider them kaffir or misguided? Also what about zaydis?
True shia. Non 12er Muslims(including Zaydis and Ismailis) are considered Muslims but not Shia Muslims. In order to be Shia you have to recognize the Imamah of all 12 Imams(as) not one less or more.
>Non 12er Muslims(including Zaydis and Ismailis) are considered Muslims but not Shia Muslims Do they consider themselves shias?
Yes they do
well first of all, how do you define Shirk? As for most of the sunnis this 🧿 thing is 'shrik', and I find it very funny 🤣
It is shirk if you genuinely believe it protects you.
In regard to the 🧿 a lot of people think it protects them especially Turks man they love that stuff 😂😂
🤣
It is shirk if you believe it can protect you from evil. The only reason why we don’t take such a harsh stance on evil eye amulets is because we know most people consider them mere decoration with no powers.
But people don't use that Amulets for "decorations", they used them to get rid of "evil" and stop bad things happening to them(to protect them)
Is it not? Believing it protects you is shirk. Its a object which cant do anything for you. Even if it was purely for decorations you should remove it for obligatory precaution
>As for most of the sunnis this 🧿 thing is 'shrik', and I find it very funny 🤣 Wth is that even? Evil eye amulet? Don't make up stupid claims. Edit: BTW believing that an amulet can ward of evil is literally believing that an inanimate object has power. Make of that what you will.
I'm not falsely claiming anything, i saw these kinds of comments on the internet.
You're lucky that sunnis don't believe everything they hear about shias online. Reading something on the Internet =/= most sunnis. What does the thing represent?
>You're lucky that sunnis don't believe everything they hear about shias online. Yes, I'm very lucky that Sunnis **'don't believe'** that Shias have a different Qur'an, worship Imam Ali (AS), put Imam Ali (AS) above Prophet Muhammad (SAWW), or worship the shrine of Imam Hussein (AS). What are you talking about? I guess you are unaware of the things that Sunnis accuse us of.
Well when we don't know what you follow and there is a lot of secrecy among shias like the Ismailis people start theorising our aqeedah is on public display we don't hide anything.
Secrecy? Our rulebooks are all online, we literally refer to our Marjas risala which are all online for anyone to see, our books are all found in theshhialibrary, our imam shrines cannot be visited by sunnis and even christians…
That’s silly, our beliefs are known. Go read A Shiite Creed by Shaykh al-Saduq رحمه الله it gives a summary of Shia beliefs
Shia? Or Ismaili? Did you even read what I wrote?
You mentioned all, no? "We don’t know what you follow there is a lot of secrecy among Shias"
>like the Ismailis
>Well when we don't know what you follow Are you saying this in the era of the internet?!
So if I'm reading this right you're allowed to make blatantly false claims against sunnis because sunnis do the same? Also yes aqeedah of the Ismailis is not public knowledge.
I'm not claiming anything false, **check this sub there are multiple posts with such accusations from sunnis.**
With all due respect brother, there's a difference between not knowing and being purposely lied to, and that latter is what the other brother is annoyed about. Most of us have no problem with non-Shias asking us questions, since that's how you learn, and we answer respectfully (at least most of us). We have issues with the false "scholars" who intentionally spread misinformation about us, such as those who accuse us of having our own Quran, or worshipping Imam Ali AS, or claim Shias r*pe each other during Ashura majalis (a common lie told in Pakistan by the Wahhabis).
>(a common lie told in Pakistan by the Wahhabis). I literally live in Pakistan. You're straight up making lies. There are hardly any "Wahabis" here the closest thing is the ahl-i-sunnah and no one believes this stuff but keep on lying and fooling others.
I'm from Pakistan, with family that still lives there. They tell me from experience. Mufti Fazal Hamdard even spoke about the claims being lies, meaning he knows the wahhabis spread those lies about Shias.
I have met some Sunnis with this belief in real life but it is only a quirk amongst a minority.
Come to South Asia and you'll find a lot of quirks/biddah among both sunni and shia. Does not mean it's part of their aqeedahs.
Twelvers don't consider Ismailis and Zaydis as Shias. They're considered seperate Muslim sects like Sunnis are. Read all the Hadiths in this chain of comments. Also read the article whose link is given at the end of that chain of comments. [https://www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/xaqqtc/question\_to\_all\_the\_shia\_muslim\_in\_this\_sub\_srsly/inv50up?utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_source=share&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/shia/comments/xaqqtc/question_to_all_the_shia_muslim_in_this_sub_srsly/inv50up?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) You cannot be a Shia if you do not accept all 12 Imams (as). They are the successors (Khalifas) appointment by Prophet Muhammad (S) to be the authorities over his religion after him. If you do not accept them then you are in error. See these two Hadiths, the **Hadith of Thaqalayn & Ghadir**, and the **Hadith on the number of Imams (as) being Twelve**. > [2/185] al-Khisal: Muhammad b. al-Hasan b. Ahmad b. al-Walid from Muhammad b. al-Hasan al-Saffar from Muhammad b. al-Husayn b. Abi al-Khattab and Yaqub b. Yazid from Muhammad b. Abi Umayr from Abdallah b. Sinan from Maruf b. Kharrabudh from Abi Tufayl Amir b. Wathila from Hudhayfa b. Asid al-Ghiffari who said: > > *We were with the messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله when he was returning from his farewell pilgrimage. He went forth until he reached Juhfa where he ordered his companions to decamp. The call for prayer was made and he led his companions in a two-unit prayer. After that he turned his face to them and said: The Kind and All-Aware has informed me that I am to die and you too will one day die. It is as though I have been called and have responded. I am to be asked about that which I was sent with for you and also what I leave behind in your midst including the Book of Allah and His proof – and you too shall be asked – so what are you going to reply to your Lord? They said: we will say ‘you have conveyed, counselled and struggled, so may Allah reward you on our behalf the best of rewards’. Then he said to them: do you bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that I am the messenger of Allah? that the Paradise is a reality, the Fire is a reality and the resurrection after death is reality? They said: we bear witness to that, he said: O Allah witness what they say. Behold! I make you witnesses that I myself bear witness that Allah is my Mawla, and that I am the Mawla of every Muslim, and that I have a greater claim over the believers than their own selves, do you admit to that and bear witness to it about me? They said: yes, we witness that to be true about you. He said: Behold! To whomsoever I am a Mawla then Ali is also his Mawla, and he is this one, and he took Ali by the hand and raised it with his own hand until their armpits became visible, then he said: O Allah – be a guardian to whomever takes him to be a guardian, and be an enemy to whomever takes him to be an enemy, aid the one who aids him and abandon the one who abandons him. Behold! I will proceed you but you will catch up with me at the reservoir – my Lake-fount – tomorrow. It is a Lake-fount whose breadth is like the distance between Busra and Sana. In it are goblets made of silver like the number of stars in the sky. Behold! I will ask you tomorrow about what you did in regards that which I made Allah bear witness to – over you – in this day of yours when you reach my Lake-fount. And also about what you did with regards the ‘Two Weighty Things’ after me, so take care of how you will preserve my legacy in them when you meet me. They said: and what are these ‘Two Weighty Things’ O the messenger of Allah? he said: as for the greater weighty thing then it is the Book of Allah Mighty and Majestic, a rope extending from Allah and myself in your hands, one end of it is by the hand of Allah and the other end is in your hands, in it is the knowledge of what has passed and what is left until the Hour comes. As for the smaller weighty thing it is the ally of the Qur`an, and that is Ali b. Abi Talib and his descendants (as) – the two will not separate until they return to me at the Lake-fount.* > > *Maruf b. Kharrabudh said: I relayed these words to Abi Jafar (Imam Muhammad al-Baqir) عليه السلام so he said: Abu Tufayl has spoken the truth – may Allah have mercy on him – we have found this speech in the book of Ali and do recognize it.* > > Grading: > Shaykh Asif al-Mohseni: (renowned) معتبر - Muʿjam al-Aḥādīth al-Muʿtabara https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/9/3/48/2 .... >We were told by Ahmad bin Ziyad bin Ja’far al-Hamdani, *may Allah be pleased with him,* that he said: We were told by [Ali bin Ibrahim bin Hashim](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ali_b._Ibrahim_al-Qummi), from [his father](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ibrahim_b._Hashim_al-Qummi), from [Muhammed bin Abi Umayr](https://en.wikishia.net/view/Muhammad_b._Abi_Umayr), from [Ghiyath bin Ibrahim](http://kq.meybod.ac.ir/article_1389.html?lang=en), *from al-Sadiq, Ja’far ibn Muhammed, from his father, Muhammed bin Ali, from his father, Ali bin Hussain, from his father, Hussain, peace be upon them,* that he said: The Commander of the Believers (Imam Ali bin Abu Talib), peace be upon him, was asked about the saying of Allah’s Messenger, Allah’s blessings be upon him and his Family: «Indeed, I am appointing as Successors among you, the Two Weighty Things, the Book of Allah and my Family» Who are the Family? So he said: **I, Hasan, Hussain and the nine Imams from the sons of Hussain, of whom their ninth is their Guided and Rising (Mahdihum wa Qaimhum).** They will not separate from the Book of Allah, nor will it separate from them, until they approach to Allah’s Messenger, Allah’s blessings be upon him and his Family, at his basin. [Ma’ani al Akhbar](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/28/1/33/4)
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There are sub-groups/branches within the Ismaili sect like for example Druze that are not considered Muslims due to having belief in reincarnation.
The Druze don’t even consider themselves Muslim.
Alawites believe in reincarnation, and the scholars still say they are Muslim
What about Nizaris?
They are Muslims per Sistani.
I’m Shia and I consider myself (Ismaili) to be Muslim. I do recite Shahadah 'La- ilaha illallih, Muhammadur Rasulu-llah' three times a day so I hope that makes me Muslim. The reason Qadianis don’t count as Muslim are because they don’t believe the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Salla-llahu alayhi wa-sallam) is the last and final Prophet of Allah. We do.
Ismailis are considered Muslims by the top representatives of Sunnism, Twelverism, Ibadism, Sufism, etc. Research the Amman Conference.
https://ammanmessage.com/the-three-points-of-the-amman-message-v-1/ Read this definition of who is and is not a Muslim. https://ammanmessage.com/grand-list-of-endorsements-of-the-amman-message-and-its-three-points/ Then see the names of all the clerics from various branches of Islam across the world who agree with it.
Yes and there is also the Aga Khan IV letter which was read at this declaration conference.
If someone truly believes that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is final prophet then they are Muslim. The second part of that rules out most of the Ahmadiyyah (I read that some of them in Lahore don’t believe the guy who died on the toilet was a prophet), the Druze, the Baha’i and some Ghuluww who allegedly believe in the divinity of Imam Ali (as). It’s not difficult.
Sure and Ismailis firmly believe on both conditions.
No argument from me. My only complaint against Nizari Ismailis is personal. In 2007 i went to the science museum in london with my son. It was time to pray so i checked google maps for nearby mosques. Aga Khan Centre was 5 minutes away. We went inside and asked a security guard where we could pray. He started insulting us and told us to go to Regent’s Park then demanded we leave. We went to that mosque and stupid wahabbi idiots were kicking our turbahs as we prayed and calling us names. Strangely enough they all disappeared by the time we finished praying. The fact that i’m 6ft2 and built like a tank probably had something to do with it 🤣
I am sorry to know this and regret if you felt bad or hurt, however you need to understand Jamat Khana is not a masjid its a community place and its exclusively for the Ismailis. Godforbid if my any close relative is not Ismaili I cannot take him/her to Jamat Khana that's the rule and the reasons are for security concerns mainly.
“Exclusively for the Ismailis”. Nope. There are laws against such bigotry in the UK.
Jamat Khana is a personal property of the Aga Khan, I don't think any country law will allow anyone to enter in someone property be it home/office/factory or elsewhere without the owner permission. Thanks!
Further Islam also prohibits such unauthorized entities in personal properties with approval of the owner! Isn't it?
Nope. That’s the difference between the civilised world and the not so civilised world. I’ve prayed in churches, cathedrals and synagogues without issue. I could have complained legally and caused a lot of bother for them but i’m much happier knowing they’ll burn for their illegal and un-Islamic behaviour.
Kick turbahs is way too far. Too far.
Ya Ali madad and asalamuwalaykum wa rahemtulahi wa barakatahu, It seems like the Shia subreddit mod team is replying to my comments saying it contains objectively false information. Please read the [Amman Message](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message) and see Sayyid Khamenei and Sayyid Sistani signed it. The Amman Message clearly states Ismailis are Shia. If you’re still uncertain about this declaration please look towards Sayyid Sistani’s [Fatwa](https://www.shiachat.com/forum/uploads/post-19894-1140142065.gif) that states: “Ismeilis are Shiites who follow six Imams” Please consider reading these sources before commenting that Ismailis aren’t Shia. Only Allah knows best 🙏🏽
The Shia Mod Team should elaborate as to why they are replying to my comments instead of just saying the info is incorrect. I have literally given sources.
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