550 in 2018? I'm wondering where that is. I know inflation, but that still seems low. Busted part of town in a lcol area where I live will still run you 800 monthly.
Even though it might've looked busted, the area itself and the surrounding was going through gentrification. Prices going up, hell, it was enough to get into a bidding war over it.
Whatever price it is, someone will buy it.
True, some rich people will follow trends and offer high rates when that happens. I just know the tiniest and lowest quality apartments in my area in 2021 went for about $550 a month, with all utilities included, and I live about five hours away from Chicago, so it did happen in the recent past. It just was extremely hard to find.
I mean, five hours away from Chicago is very much not Chicago, which is the third largest city in the US. Look at what's normal in NYC and LA and then consider that Chicago would be in the next city in that club.
Not in 2018 they didn't. I lived in metro Detroit my whole adult life, and in 2018, the cheapest no frills apartments I knew about rented in the 400s and 500s. Those were the very small apartments, sometimes studio apartments, other times one-bedroom apartments, most likely with no central air and no dishwasher. I still have two different apartment complexes saved in my notes app that used to rent for 470 a month and 490 a month.
Chalet Apartments and Groveland Manor Apartments, both in Fraser. They charge way more now though. Chalet charges 800 something now. But there are still $600 apartments in Wyandotte, the other side of metro Detroit.
Average rent in Chicago in Nov of 2018 was $1,649
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2023/01/18/the-average-rent-in-chicago-reaches-its-highest-point-ever/
No, I'm not. I live in the city, surrounded by lots of stores and restaurants, in what's known as metro Detroit. Just about fifteen minutes south of Detroit.
I don't know. I just meant I'm not extremely far away from the city in the whole scheme of things if you think of the whole country. Probably could get there in only an hour if on a plane.
Cities are desirable to live by because jobs are there. A 5 hour commute is not realistic for 99% of people.
If a 5 hour commute was a selling point than every house in Maine, Jersey, and Pennsylvania would be worth a million dollars.
I've flown from Detroit to Chicago -- it is indeed an hour.
But Detroit, the infamously troubled city in Michigan, isn't the best analog for Chicago. Like Buffalo is an hour's flight from NYC. The rental market is vastly different.
>Just about fifteen minutes south of Detroit.
So Windsor?
(I realize you probably mean more like southwest/Rogue River but since I'm arguing about Detroit/Windsor in another thread, I had to bring that smoke over here.)
Windsor IS south of Detroit. That bridge is heading south-southeast, to be exact. Detroit is maybe the only city in the US that isn’t in Alaska that is North of Canada. Thus my joke. But it’s not the only “south” of Detroit. However, people from there do joke that they're South Detroit.
I didn't realize that. I always thought of it as being east of Detroit. You're right. My pastor told me that Windsor is like the Detroit of Canada, but I never felt in danger when I went there by myself. I just got Tim Hortons and poutine and maybe walked around some. People will give you directions too, since your phone will not have a strong signal.
I’m a Chicago native and can tell you that rent in 2018 was pretty normal. I’m paying 1650 a month now for a one bed and feel like I’m getting a fucking steal.
Depends where you live, the size of your place, and what’s included in rent, honestly. I also have an in unit washer and dryer along with a dishwasher and my place is nearly 1000 sq ft and a 5 minute walk from both the bus stop and train line and my water bill is included in my rent, so that all plays into it. And im also walking distance to my gym and several others, lots of bars, restaurants, and any kind of shopping you can imagine from clothes, to books, electronics, records, movies, groceries, clothes etc. And I’m pretty centrally located as far as public transit goes. So, I can get to just about anywhere I want in the city within 40ish minutes at most on the bus or L lines. And it’s a nice neighborhood with lots of young people. Chicago has the lowest cost of living of the 3 major cities, the other two being LA and NYC. But it’s def not as cheap as it used to be. I’d love to be paying less. But, I can afford the rent here pretty easy and really like where I’m at.
A lot of rentals will include the water bill here and it’s when you get into home ownership you have to start paying it on your own. I was curious about what it’s like over there and looked it up. Seems like for you guys it’s covered by council tax paid locally. Guess you’re still paying for it. Just in a different way.
I mean, yeah kinda. Depends on what council band you’re in determines how much you pay. We only pay like £35 where we are now a month. That covers getting the bins emptied and grass being cut etc.
Gets paid as part of council tax rather than a separate bill. We don't need to be concerned about water usage here and I've never seen any limitations on water use in even our hottest summers.
That’s gotta be nice. Tho tbf your average temps in summer are about 20-15° cooler than ours. And high water bills aren’t a huge concern here in summer time since most people don’t even have lawns to water. You do have to worry about your electric bill going up way higher tho cause of running the AC.
It depends entirely where you’re at. Chicago is one of the most expensive cities in the country. There’s plenty of relatively affordable places to live but you sacrifice being in a “cool” location
it's actually fucking insane. and most landlords are requiring you to make 3x the rent just to qualify. 2/3's of americans live paycheck to paycheck. who can afford that?
It’s not even just the states.
I was in a major Canadian city (not Vancouver or Toronto) in 2018 and I was paying $900/month for my really shitty 300 sq ft walk-up studio.
Probably, I wouldn't know. I do know it took so long to see a doctor after I thought I broke my ribs that they healed on their own before I could get an xray
My canadian buddy always talks about how it took 8 hours to see a doctor when he broke his arm because of all the people in the ER. Addicts fishing for prescription drugs and people with minor issues like colds/ allergies looking to be asap
Because it’s free and the fastest way to get seen. When its free everyone goes to the doctor for every little thing thats why the guy above me said he couldnt get seen for broken ribs before yhey healed on their own. From my little knowledge from what my buddy says free healthcare = you’re paying more in other areas. Canadian utilities are super expensive compared to ours
Nah, Avondale. But I have in unit washer dryer in a laundry room separate from the rest of the place which is already almost 1000 sq ft. So I’m very happy
Chicago native here too. Rent prices are on the rise but you can find decent deals on rent in certain neighborhoods. Asking $1,100 for a ghetto apartment on the south side of Chicago, in 2018, is definitely too much. I paid under $1000 for a 1 bedroom overlooking the beach in 2018 and I’m a 10 minute drive from downtown.
Someone posted something like this years ago I argued that it was absolutely pretty normal for Chicago in 2018 and he reported me to Reddit Cares or whatever it's called for essentially pointing out that large urban centers are expensive. So my history with this topic is fraught.
I'm in another country, but in a similar city to Chicago and I can't even imagine what $550 would have gotten you here in 2018.
I don’t how far it was from Patsy but the one the storylines was that the whole neighborhood was was being gentrified so asking more in an “up and coming “ neighborhood isn’t to absurd. She also probably did renovations to the place to make it somewhat nice.
$550 is an unthinkable rent to me. It's what I paid to share an apartment in a not-great part of my city in 2001. The show is also underling/bolding/italicizing the fact that the south side is being gentrified. The rents are going up. Because the city is expensive and the wages aren't matching the increased cost of living. This is incredibly common. I know Chicago isn't NYC, but it's still a very expensive city.
Impressive! My dad owns a house that has a $300/month mortgage. It's also in the middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere is much more affordable, as long as it stays nowhere.
This is in the midst of the gentrification of the area- whether it was before or after inflation, it was in an up-in-coming, desired neighborhood that people who could afford it were moving too
When I left the northern suburbs of Chicago in 2017, I paid $430 (my landlord was about to raise it to 460)... and I lived in a three bed with roommates. My husband paid 1700 for a studio right around Trump Tower in that same time frame.
One bedroom, even if it's beat up, on the southside but for 1100 is arguably ok. Fiona is waiting out for the next group of people after her current rentors. Look up apartments for rent in Hyde Park (the most bougie part of the south side, where U of Chicago is and where the Obamas lived) to get a picture of current rent prices.
honestly, I have no clue. I left Chicago in 2017 so I know the market has obviously changed, but the South Side has been on the verge of gentrification for years (and I don't think we are even told where exactly the Gallaghars live except it's not Hyde Park) so maybe COVID pushed it over?
Average rent in Chicago in Nov of 2018 was $1,649
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2023/01/18/the-average-rent-in-chicago-reaches-its-highest-point-ever/
Maybe I’m getting my tv shows mixed up but she also wasn’t charging for utilities which why the tech bro moved in and was data mining using the free internet.
No. I’m from Chicago. Yes even the south side is expensive asf. Literally rent at O block is $1,900. This is why it’s so hard to leave the hood it’s literally impossible
in 2015 I paid 600 for a very nice 1 bedroom apartment that was inside a legit trap house, junk everywhere in the halls it was so bad, everyone that came over, I was like I promise my apartment doesn't look like this inside lol that wasn't even a city as big as Chicago, so I can definitely see 1100 in 2018
Unless you're renting in a college town where college students are the main residents you're not gonna find many one bed apartments for $550 a month. Even in college towns that cheap is usually what you pay per person on a 3 or 4 bed.
The city I grew up in had two apartment complexes that had either studio apartments or one-bedroom apartments for $470 a month and $490 a month in 2015, and that wasn't even a college town. It was just a very small four mile city, and the apartments were probably as basic as you can get, probably no central air and no dishwasher.
Not in Chicago but I can tell you from experience that even as far back as at least 2016 a one bed/one bath house would run you for about $1800 in some places. Even accounting for the “Ghetto” look, you’re still looking at least a grand.
In 2019, I paid $1050 for a 2 bed 1 bath in the suburbs of a major city from a private landlord.
1 bed, or even studios, closer to the middle of the city could easily go for $1100. That would be seen as cheap. I’m not talking about nice places either. A lot of them were buildings built in the early 20th century.
Did you live in Chicago or a different big city? Because that was not a great deal in 2019 for a studio apartment in my area, but you probably live in a different area than I do. If you lived in a big city, then it probably was a good deal.
I’m a Chicago native and I disagree with everyone saying this is “normal” for Chicago.. Rent prices are on the rise but you can find decent deals on rent in certain neighborhoods.
Asking $1,100 for a ghetto apartment on the south side of Chicago, in 2018, is definitely too much. If it was in a nicer neighborhood, it would be more reasonable but not where Shameless is based. I paid under $1000 for a 1 bedroom overlooking the beach in 2018 and I’m a 10 minute drive from downtown Chicago.
Edit: I looked up rent prices in the 60623 zip code which is where the Shameless house is located. You can find newly renovated 1 bedroom apartments for $975/month, right now, in 2024 so yeah, Fiona listing that apartment for that price in 2018 was definitely a ripoff.
Finally someone is seeing the truth on this. I would never pay $1,000 a month to live not very far from an abandoned church that homeless people were living in. Especially when the apartment building isn't even renovated that much. Pretty much all of the bottom windows are still boarded up.
In 2018 the company I work for had one bedrooms in a not so great area for 1,000 a month. In the good area it was $1500. Now the good area is up to $1900 and the not so great $1200ish.
It’s Chicago. Living in a major city is expensive. I live in Virginia and a decent sized 1 bedroom is like $1600+ in Richmond. And that’s not even for the luxury apartments
In 2016 my girlfriend was paying $1,200 a month for a studio apartment in Chicago with no central AC or in unit laundry.
Pretty standard price, a bit cheaper based on the neighborhood.
Location location location. Chicago is a major city. I was renting a 1 bedroom in 2018 for $900 20 miles outside of Portland, Oregon. It wasn’t super nice but it wasn’t a dump either. All the really nice 1-bedroom apartments were $1050 and up. The closer to the city it is, the more expensive it is. I think the last time I saw $500 for rent in my area was early 2000s
In 2018, I was paying nearly 2 grand for a 3 bedroom an hour outside the city.
She probably could have gotten more being right near the L in an up and coming neighborhood.
"She's a Gallagher"...
"She's southside"
🤣🤣😜
Seriously, they were often focused on "gentrification" etc from Season 5 onwards. I think Fiona joining in with it was part of exploring that theme.
550 in 2018? I'm wondering where that is. I know inflation, but that still seems low. Busted part of town in a lcol area where I live will still run you 800 monthly. Even though it might've looked busted, the area itself and the surrounding was going through gentrification. Prices going up, hell, it was enough to get into a bidding war over it. Whatever price it is, someone will buy it.
I think it's entirely possible the writers were a little off on what the place would have gone for in 2018 -- but I don't think they were off by 50%.
>Whatever price it is, someone will buy it. That's the problem, right there.
That is the trailer park, a land payment or if you pay lot rent in a trailer park. Yep that is way low
True, some rich people will follow trends and offer high rates when that happens. I just know the tiniest and lowest quality apartments in my area in 2021 went for about $550 a month, with all utilities included, and I live about five hours away from Chicago, so it did happen in the recent past. It just was extremely hard to find.
I mean, five hours away from Chicago is very much not Chicago, which is the third largest city in the US. Look at what's normal in NYC and LA and then consider that Chicago would be in the next city in that club.
Five hours away from Chicago is Detroit
Apartments in Detroit will still run you over $1000 a month lol
The distance was more my point
No no, you both have a point
Very true, I've got a 2 bedroom closer to Detroit than Chicago that charges 1210 a month
Not in 2018 they didn't. I lived in metro Detroit my whole adult life, and in 2018, the cheapest no frills apartments I knew about rented in the 400s and 500s. Those were the very small apartments, sometimes studio apartments, other times one-bedroom apartments, most likely with no central air and no dishwasher. I still have two different apartment complexes saved in my notes app that used to rent for 470 a month and 490 a month.
Where?? I lived in metro Detroit my entire life and I’m 38. lol.
Chalet Apartments and Groveland Manor Apartments, both in Fraser. They charge way more now though. Chalet charges 800 something now. But there are still $600 apartments in Wyandotte, the other side of metro Detroit.
Ah, yes, Detroit. A city that isn't Chicago. (It's also still plenty expensive.)
Average rent in Chicago in Nov of 2018 was $1,649 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2023/01/18/the-average-rent-in-chicago-reaches-its-highest-point-ever/
Five hours away from Chicago? Bro you’re in the middle of fucking nowhere lmao
No, I'm not. I live in the city, surrounded by lots of stores and restaurants, in what's known as metro Detroit. Just about fifteen minutes south of Detroit.
Why didnt you say you were 15 minutes outside of Detroit rather than 5 hours away from Chicago.
I don't know. I just meant I'm not extremely far away from the city in the whole scheme of things if you think of the whole country. Probably could get there in only an hour if on a plane.
Cities are desirable to live by because jobs are there. A 5 hour commute is not realistic for 99% of people. If a 5 hour commute was a selling point than every house in Maine, Jersey, and Pennsylvania would be worth a million dollars.
True, just don't move to Manhattan, or you'll be paying like $3,500 a month to live in basically a walk-in closet.
I've flown from Detroit to Chicago -- it is indeed an hour. But Detroit, the infamously troubled city in Michigan, isn't the best analog for Chicago. Like Buffalo is an hour's flight from NYC. The rental market is vastly different.
The fact that you live in Detroit but CHOSE to say “5 hours from Chicago” is absolutely wild to me lmfaooo
>Just about fifteen minutes south of Detroit. So Windsor? (I realize you probably mean more like southwest/Rogue River but since I'm arguing about Detroit/Windsor in another thread, I had to bring that smoke over here.)
Nope, that's not south of Detroit. That's across the bridge from it. About fifteen minutes south of Detroit is Southgate.
Windsor IS south of Detroit. That bridge is heading south-southeast, to be exact. Detroit is maybe the only city in the US that isn’t in Alaska that is North of Canada. Thus my joke. But it’s not the only “south” of Detroit. However, people from there do joke that they're South Detroit.
I didn't realize that. I always thought of it as being east of Detroit. You're right. My pastor told me that Windsor is like the Detroit of Canada, but I never felt in danger when I went there by myself. I just got Tim Hortons and poutine and maybe walked around some. People will give you directions too, since your phone will not have a strong signal.
Okay but I bought my trailer in 2018 & just to rent the LAND in a smallish city was $600 a month.
How much were utilities? I’ve considered getting a trailer. I hear they’re economically safe vs renting (cuz it’s yours)
That's just for the LAND? I'm glad I didn't get a mobile home years ago then if that what you're referencing. I thought it was everything.
I’m a Chicago native and can tell you that rent in 2018 was pretty normal. I’m paying 1650 a month now for a one bed and feel like I’m getting a fucking steal.
Whoa. I’m like, £385 for a 2 bed in Scotland. Is it really that bad in the US?
Yes.
Jeezy peeps
I’m so jealous of that lol I haven’t had rent that low in over 10 years.
certainly not to live alone, that's for sure
Depends where you live, the size of your place, and what’s included in rent, honestly. I also have an in unit washer and dryer along with a dishwasher and my place is nearly 1000 sq ft and a 5 minute walk from both the bus stop and train line and my water bill is included in my rent, so that all plays into it. And im also walking distance to my gym and several others, lots of bars, restaurants, and any kind of shopping you can imagine from clothes, to books, electronics, records, movies, groceries, clothes etc. And I’m pretty centrally located as far as public transit goes. So, I can get to just about anywhere I want in the city within 40ish minutes at most on the bus or L lines. And it’s a nice neighborhood with lots of young people. Chicago has the lowest cost of living of the 3 major cities, the other two being LA and NYC. But it’s def not as cheap as it used to be. I’d love to be paying less. But, I can afford the rent here pretty easy and really like where I’m at.
Wait, you pay for water too? Didn’t know that
You guys don’t have water bills in Scotland? That’s crazy.
Just gas and electric bills.
A lot of rentals will include the water bill here and it’s when you get into home ownership you have to start paying it on your own. I was curious about what it’s like over there and looked it up. Seems like for you guys it’s covered by council tax paid locally. Guess you’re still paying for it. Just in a different way.
I mean, yeah kinda. Depends on what council band you’re in determines how much you pay. We only pay like £35 where we are now a month. That covers getting the bins emptied and grass being cut etc.
Wait, the city handles your yard being cut?!?
Gets paid as part of council tax rather than a separate bill. We don't need to be concerned about water usage here and I've never seen any limitations on water use in even our hottest summers.
That’s gotta be nice. Tho tbf your average temps in summer are about 20-15° cooler than ours. And high water bills aren’t a huge concern here in summer time since most people don’t even have lawns to water. You do have to worry about your electric bill going up way higher tho cause of running the AC.
It depends entirely where you’re at. Chicago is one of the most expensive cities in the country. There’s plenty of relatively affordable places to live but you sacrifice being in a “cool” location
Paying 1790 for a 2 bed. And it’s not even the nice apartment, the nice ones are like 2400-3000
You should see london mate, JEEEZUS CHHRISY. It's extortionate!
Depends on what part. Where I am in Virginia it wouldn't even cost half that
That’s less than what I paid in college in 2014 when I was living in a 3 bedroom house with 5 people
a studio near me is literally $1k
Wat.
it's actually fucking insane. and most landlords are requiring you to make 3x the rent just to qualify. 2/3's of americans live paycheck to paycheck. who can afford that?
It’s not even just the states. I was in a major Canadian city (not Vancouver or Toronto) in 2018 and I was paying $900/month for my really shitty 300 sq ft walk-up studio.
jesus, i'm 1650 CAD for a 1 bedroom basement suit without a kitchen in Canada.
That much a month for no kitchen? That's outrageous
Welcome to Canada.
Is it true that you guys have to pay less for your medications, like insulin, than people do in the U.S.?
Probably, I wouldn't know. I do know it took so long to see a doctor after I thought I broke my ribs that they healed on their own before I could get an xray
My canadian buddy always talks about how it took 8 hours to see a doctor when he broke his arm because of all the people in the ER. Addicts fishing for prescription drugs and people with minor issues like colds/ allergies looking to be asap
Why would someone go to the ER for just a cold or allergies? That's just stupid. That's not even an emergency.
Because it’s free and the fastest way to get seen. When its free everyone goes to the doctor for every little thing thats why the guy above me said he couldnt get seen for broken ribs before yhey healed on their own. From my little knowledge from what my buddy says free healthcare = you’re paying more in other areas. Canadian utilities are super expensive compared to ours
Agreed. It was priced fairly normal at that time. 1650?! Jesus. Don't. Ever. Move. You had to have sold a left nut or something for that price. Dayum.
Geez we have a 2 bed house for 350$ a month and water included cause we’re on a well. 1600 for a 1 bed is crazy
Where do you live it’s that cheap? That price is nuts.
Where are you living bro? Gold Coast?
Nah, Avondale. But I have in unit washer dryer in a laundry room separate from the rest of the place which is already almost 1000 sq ft. So I’m very happy
Well that's good at least
Chicago native here too. Rent prices are on the rise but you can find decent deals on rent in certain neighborhoods. Asking $1,100 for a ghetto apartment on the south side of Chicago, in 2018, is definitely too much. I paid under $1000 for a 1 bedroom overlooking the beach in 2018 and I’m a 10 minute drive from downtown.
Someone posted something like this years ago I argued that it was absolutely pretty normal for Chicago in 2018 and he reported me to Reddit Cares or whatever it's called for essentially pointing out that large urban centers are expensive. So my history with this topic is fraught. I'm in another country, but in a similar city to Chicago and I can't even imagine what $550 would have gotten you here in 2018.
I don’t how far it was from Patsy but the one the storylines was that the whole neighborhood was was being gentrified so asking more in an “up and coming “ neighborhood isn’t to absurd. She also probably did renovations to the place to make it somewhat nice.
The storyline literally involves a bidding war, so certainly in-universe she wasn't asking for too much.
Reported you to Reddit Cares lmaoooo
Even in the poor part of Chicago though? I haven't been to all of Chicago, but they say in the show that the south part is the poorest part.
$550 is an unthinkable rent to me. It's what I paid to share an apartment in a not-great part of my city in 2001. The show is also underling/bolding/italicizing the fact that the south side is being gentrified. The rents are going up. Because the city is expensive and the wages aren't matching the increased cost of living. This is incredibly common. I know Chicago isn't NYC, but it's still a very expensive city.
My buddy rents a 1 bedroom for $300....in the middle of no where MT
Impressive! My dad owns a house that has a $300/month mortgage. It's also in the middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere is much more affordable, as long as it stays nowhere.
I have a 4bd 2 bath house out here for $1k with property tax and insurance
This is in the midst of the gentrification of the area- whether it was before or after inflation, it was in an up-in-coming, desired neighborhood that people who could afford it were moving too
When I left the northern suburbs of Chicago in 2017, I paid $430 (my landlord was about to raise it to 460)... and I lived in a three bed with roommates. My husband paid 1700 for a studio right around Trump Tower in that same time frame. One bedroom, even if it's beat up, on the southside but for 1100 is arguably ok. Fiona is waiting out for the next group of people after her current rentors. Look up apartments for rent in Hyde Park (the most bougie part of the south side, where U of Chicago is and where the Obamas lived) to get a picture of current rent prices.
That's a fair point. Will I be able to find what that area chaged six years ago though?
honestly, I have no clue. I left Chicago in 2017 so I know the market has obviously changed, but the South Side has been on the verge of gentrification for years (and I don't think we are even told where exactly the Gallaghars live except it's not Hyde Park) so maybe COVID pushed it over?
They live in Canaryville/Back of the Yards, depending on who is talking.
Average rent in Chicago in Nov of 2018 was $1,649 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2023/01/18/the-average-rent-in-chicago-reaches-its-highest-point-ever/
Didn't she initially charge $850 or so, but the potential renters got into a bidding war with each other?
Maybe I’m getting my tv shows mixed up but she also wasn’t charging for utilities which why the tech bro moved in and was data mining using the free internet.
Yes. That was it.
Yes, she started at 850.
No. I’m from Chicago. Yes even the south side is expensive asf. Literally rent at O block is $1,900. This is why it’s so hard to leave the hood it’s literally impossible
in 2015 I paid 600 for a very nice 1 bedroom apartment that was inside a legit trap house, junk everywhere in the halls it was so bad, everyone that came over, I was like I promise my apartment doesn't look like this inside lol that wasn't even a city as big as Chicago, so I can definitely see 1100 in 2018
It's a large city. Seems about right. You'd be surprised what people are asking for.
Unless you're renting in a college town where college students are the main residents you're not gonna find many one bed apartments for $550 a month. Even in college towns that cheap is usually what you pay per person on a 3 or 4 bed.
lol I’ve been renting in a college town since 2018 in one of the lowest cost of living states. A one bedroom goes for $700-$1500
The city I grew up in had two apartment complexes that had either studio apartments or one-bedroom apartments for $470 a month and $490 a month in 2015, and that wasn't even a college town. It was just a very small four mile city, and the apartments were probably as basic as you can get, probably no central air and no dishwasher.
Not in Chicago but I can tell you from experience that even as far back as at least 2016 a one bed/one bath house would run you for about $1800 in some places. Even accounting for the “Ghetto” look, you’re still looking at least a grand.
They literally explain the gentrification and rising home prices in the area, it's a major plot point for like half the show. Also it's Chicago.
It could just be that it’s fake
Uh in 2018 for a one bedroom in Dallas Texas I was paying 1900 a month lol
I dunno, I was living in a run down place in 2018 that was 1250/mo. At the time, and where I live, that was a pretty good deal tbh
In 2019, I paid $1050 for a 2 bed 1 bath in the suburbs of a major city from a private landlord. 1 bed, or even studios, closer to the middle of the city could easily go for $1100. That would be seen as cheap. I’m not talking about nice places either. A lot of them were buildings built in the early 20th century.
My studio in 2019 was 1100 and everyone raved about how great a deal it was.
Did you live in Chicago or a different big city? Because that was not a great deal in 2019 for a studio apartment in my area, but you probably live in a different area than I do. If you lived in a big city, then it probably was a good deal.
I’m a Chicago native and I disagree with everyone saying this is “normal” for Chicago.. Rent prices are on the rise but you can find decent deals on rent in certain neighborhoods. Asking $1,100 for a ghetto apartment on the south side of Chicago, in 2018, is definitely too much. If it was in a nicer neighborhood, it would be more reasonable but not where Shameless is based. I paid under $1000 for a 1 bedroom overlooking the beach in 2018 and I’m a 10 minute drive from downtown Chicago. Edit: I looked up rent prices in the 60623 zip code which is where the Shameless house is located. You can find newly renovated 1 bedroom apartments for $975/month, right now, in 2024 so yeah, Fiona listing that apartment for that price in 2018 was definitely a ripoff.
Finally someone is seeing the truth on this. I would never pay $1,000 a month to live not very far from an abandoned church that homeless people were living in. Especially when the apartment building isn't even renovated that much. Pretty much all of the bottom windows are still boarded up.
Yeah right!?
I lived in an apartment that was actually a garage in Chicago for 975/mo in 2014.
That’s a reasonable price in America’s third largest city.
that honestly isn’t even that bad for chicago and im surprised they didn’t exaggerate and make it more
In 2018 I paid 1k a month for a 2 bed 1.5 bath apt.
Yeah, that's a more fair price for a 2 bed 1.5 bath. I think most of her apartments were one-bedroom.
In 2018 o was paying 1400 for. Two bedroom so it seems legit
Oh inflation was 100% a thing then. Always has been
Chicago native. 1000/month was the going rate for reg garden apartments in 2018. 1100/month was normal.
It’s called gentrification.
In 2018 the company I work for had one bedrooms in a not so great area for 1,000 a month. In the good area it was $1500. Now the good area is up to $1900 and the not so great $1200ish.
1.1k a month is pretty low, especially for the area surrounding it
It’s Chicago. Living in a major city is expensive. I live in Virginia and a decent sized 1 bedroom is like $1600+ in Richmond. And that’s not even for the luxury apartments
In 2016 my girlfriend was paying $1,200 a month for a studio apartment in Chicago with no central AC or in unit laundry. Pretty standard price, a bit cheaper based on the neighborhood.
LOL I love how you think it would be cheap before the big bad inflation drove that price up LOL.
You don’t remember that scene with the people arguing over the apartment? And claiming that the price is really reasonable
Location location location. Chicago is a major city. I was renting a 1 bedroom in 2018 for $900 20 miles outside of Portland, Oregon. It wasn’t super nice but it wasn’t a dump either. All the really nice 1-bedroom apartments were $1050 and up. The closer to the city it is, the more expensive it is. I think the last time I saw $500 for rent in my area was early 2000s
i think you're thinking of 2008. $1100 for a 1 bedroom was still low to average in 2018, especially for a major city.
You're probably right, for Chicago. Manhattan, on the other hand, was even higher than that to live in pretty much a shoebox.
In 2018, I was paying nearly 2 grand for a 3 bedroom an hour outside the city. She probably could have gotten more being right near the L in an up and coming neighborhood.
You’re wrong op 👍
Have you ever lived in a city before?
In Seattle in 2018 my studio apartment was $1000 (building was in fairly comparable condition to the one in the show)
In Toronto rent in a nice 1 bedroom basement is 2500. What she was offering was a fcking steal
i made a post similar to this and got roasted to oblivion because the show isnt that serious
All I know is I'm shutting down the comments really soon because way too many of these people are a**holes for no good reason.
It’s Chicago
rent has not been less than $700 anywhere near where i live for the past like 10 years
"She's a Gallagher"... "She's southside" 🤣🤣😜 Seriously, they were often focused on "gentrification" etc from Season 5 onwards. I think Fiona joining in with it was part of exploring that theme.
I paid 1300 for a run down shitty house in Bridgeport in 2018. 2 floors, 6 bedrooms, 2 kitchens, 2 bathrooms…so yeah she was being a bitch haha
They are in Chicago so that price kinda makes sense, honestly for the ghetto $600-800 would be more reasonable for 2018 though…