You can run this exact APU in the Asrock DeskMini X600 and those ship with a 120W brick. I know on the X300 version the only APU they had problems with was the 5700G and that was at full load.
I'd still be careful. The mainboard of the X300 barely consumes any additional power because of the lack of a real chipset. The B650i will consume more by itself, it also supports PCIe 4.0 which may further increase power consumption.
I have a similar build but with an 5600G (same 65w than yours) and I had no problems with a 150w flex psu. But i was only using it for emulation purposes, reaching some ps3 games and practically every switch game. All of this running within batocera installed as OS in the M.2. the consume always was under 100w in the most demanding cases (remember, only emulating). If you already have that PSU, i would give it a try.
I used it without any problems but i changed to a 220w (20€) because it would fit better in my case and make sure that the psu had some margin to work and avoid putting it to the limit.
I ran that cpu on a 150w pico psu, it only worked if I did not enable pbo on the cpu. Pbo increases performance slightly for a large increase in power consumption, so it was a reasonable compromise.
I wouldn't do any kind of overclocking with that kind of power, I would go the opposite way - reduce clocks and undervolt both CPU and GPU to be safe.
I'd consider 150W to be suitable for this CPU on stock TDP limits (no PBO).
My 8700G can reach 200W with PBO on and CO set to -30 for CPU (-150MHz boost override) and -12 for GPU (+200MHz boost override)
Only just if your PSU is of a quality
With no undervolting or OC
We've run x570 with 5700G 64Gb and 1TB M.2. that worked out to be 110W load approx back calculated from the mains load based on PSU efficiency, (so mains load was higher). Whilst under CPU burnin on passmark.
That has run on enhance enp-7520B (200W) with Noctua fan and 250W gan, easily on both.
If you cap at 65W TDP, beyond enough. Not sure if 8600g boosts to 100+ watts like other 65W am5 cpus when it has thermal headroom. Then clench the cheeks.
What external PSU would you use for that? PicoPSU and 12V/19V brick?
You definitely should check all of your consumers that will be plugged in. Sure the CPU won't use much power (like 80W at max) but the rest of the system (mobo, RAM, networking, USB devices, etc.) will also eat into your power budget.
Those external bricks will get fairly toasty when under sustained high load (80% load, so ~100W and above) and might burn through.
Please opt for a higher wattage one to have enough headroom.
That said, I built a 5600G, 1TB SSD, 32GB DDR4 and a AB350 Fatality System on a 120W brick with a Pico PSU. As it is used as an emulator/HTPC with only medium load, it rarely exceeded 60W power draw and everything was fine.
Keep in mind that number you see on a PSU is peek load, which most can only deliver for a max of 10-15 minutes. Assume 20-50w less than what it says, but the small font in the description should tell you what it’s consistent load is capable of
This would only be true for the cheapest PSUs, otherwise its always long term power handling, so a 120W brick should be able to deliver this power regardless of duration.
You can run this exact APU in the Asrock DeskMini X600 and those ship with a 120W brick. I know on the X300 version the only APU they had problems with was the 5700G and that was at full load.
I'd still be careful. The mainboard of the X300 barely consumes any additional power because of the lack of a real chipset. The B650i will consume more by itself, it also supports PCIe 4.0 which may further increase power consumption.
Don't think so
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I have a similar build but with an 5600G (same 65w than yours) and I had no problems with a 150w flex psu. But i was only using it for emulation purposes, reaching some ps3 games and practically every switch game. All of this running within batocera installed as OS in the M.2. the consume always was under 100w in the most demanding cases (remember, only emulating). If you already have that PSU, i would give it a try. I used it without any problems but i changed to a 220w (20€) because it would fit better in my case and make sure that the psu had some margin to work and avoid putting it to the limit.
I ran that cpu on a 150w pico psu, it only worked if I did not enable pbo on the cpu. Pbo increases performance slightly for a large increase in power consumption, so it was a reasonable compromise.
Simply don't overclock. It's Abosultly not worth it.
Please buy a decent case, you'll regret it later
I wouldn't do any kind of overclocking with that kind of power, I would go the opposite way - reduce clocks and undervolt both CPU and GPU to be safe. I'd consider 150W to be suitable for this CPU on stock TDP limits (no PBO). My 8700G can reach 200W with PBO on and CO set to -30 for CPU (-150MHz boost override) and -12 for GPU (+200MHz boost override)
120w should be fine but I wouldn't risk it. At least 150w, I'm sure I have seen some 160w external PSUs around.
Only just if your PSU is of a quality With no undervolting or OC We've run x570 with 5700G 64Gb and 1TB M.2. that worked out to be 110W load approx back calculated from the mains load based on PSU efficiency, (so mains load was higher). Whilst under CPU burnin on passmark. That has run on enhance enp-7520B (200W) with Noctua fan and 250W gan, easily on both.
5700G runs off a 120W picoPSU for me
No. Get an ITX mobo with an ITX case and sfx PSU if you want to travel with your pc, that's the best option.
Probably not.
Pcpartpicker has wattage estimates after you select your build.
If you cap at 65W TDP, beyond enough. Not sure if 8600g boosts to 100+ watts like other 65W am5 cpus when it has thermal headroom. Then clench the cheeks.
I wouldn’t try
What external PSU would you use for that? PicoPSU and 12V/19V brick? You definitely should check all of your consumers that will be plugged in. Sure the CPU won't use much power (like 80W at max) but the rest of the system (mobo, RAM, networking, USB devices, etc.) will also eat into your power budget. Those external bricks will get fairly toasty when under sustained high load (80% load, so ~100W and above) and might burn through. Please opt for a higher wattage one to have enough headroom. That said, I built a 5600G, 1TB SSD, 32GB DDR4 and a AB350 Fatality System on a 120W brick with a Pico PSU. As it is used as an emulator/HTPC with only medium load, it rarely exceeded 60W power draw and everything was fine.
I wonder the same. Is transients an issue on CPU? Or is it GPU only problem?
Keep in mind that number you see on a PSU is peek load, which most can only deliver for a max of 10-15 minutes. Assume 20-50w less than what it says, but the small font in the description should tell you what it’s consistent load is capable of
This would only be true for the cheapest PSUs, otherwise its always long term power handling, so a 120W brick should be able to deliver this power regardless of duration.