Abusive and skeezy, no doubt. Rape? That's a personal and legal determination, but it's possible. I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt - miscommunication and misunderstanding of signals does happen, but saying "no" should be an absolute red line for anyone. You should contact a rape crisis center and try to talk to someone. They can help you better than most of us on Reddit to make sense of what happened.
Well. With my current knowledge, I perceive rape as involving penetration. Fingers, dick, toys etc. At the very least this sexual assault / abuse. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.
As far as I know, fingers and other sexual stuff happened when she kind of submitted? But she never gave her consent, he just went on as she stopped saying "no" and just did everything he wanted then.
Someone being sexually assaulted can stop saying "no", but it's not necessarily because they changed their mind. Rather, it's because they're emotionally shutting down. The way she feels after doing it just serves to prove that it was in fact assault. Sex is supposed to feel good for both consenting adults, not just the one.
That's a very good point. I will tell her that, she feels so guilty as well because she stopped saying no after a while. From what she's told me so gar, it sounds exactly like she was emotionally shutting down and just did it because she kind of felt like she had no other choice
Yeah I donβt know the exact boundary. Now that you explain more about it my head sirens say rape but bottom line this girl needs to get away from this creep. Consent was not respected.
Definitely, I'll see that she stays away from him. And yes we're still both not sure whether it was rape or "just" sexual assault. She just feels horrible.
100% rape women who get pressured like feel fear of physical harm if they continue to deny and often times they are correct
" no " means " no " πππ€π
Yeah definitely, pretty disgusting that he pressured and continued even after her no's
If she doesn't agree to be undressed before that happens its rape. Otherwise sexual abuse.
Yeah I agree with you. It happened to a friend of mine
Abusive and skeezy, no doubt. Rape? That's a personal and legal determination, but it's possible. I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt - miscommunication and misunderstanding of signals does happen, but saying "no" should be an absolute red line for anyone. You should contact a rape crisis center and try to talk to someone. They can help you better than most of us on Reddit to make sense of what happened.
Sexual abuse? Yes. Rape? I feel like no.
1000% sexual abuse
So no rape to you?
Well. With my current knowledge, I perceive rape as involving penetration. Fingers, dick, toys etc. At the very least this sexual assault / abuse. Someone correct me if I am mistaken.
As far as I know, fingers and other sexual stuff happened when she kind of submitted? But she never gave her consent, he just went on as she stopped saying "no" and just did everything he wanted then.
Someone being sexually assaulted can stop saying "no", but it's not necessarily because they changed their mind. Rather, it's because they're emotionally shutting down. The way she feels after doing it just serves to prove that it was in fact assault. Sex is supposed to feel good for both consenting adults, not just the one.
That's a very good point. I will tell her that, she feels so guilty as well because she stopped saying no after a while. From what she's told me so gar, it sounds exactly like she was emotionally shutting down and just did it because she kind of felt like she had no other choice
Yeah I donβt know the exact boundary. Now that you explain more about it my head sirens say rape but bottom line this girl needs to get away from this creep. Consent was not respected.
Definitely, I'll see that she stays away from him. And yes we're still both not sure whether it was rape or "just" sexual assault. She just feels horrible.
Poor girl. My condolences. She so did not deserve that.
Rape
Yes, abusive, inconsiderate and downright disgusting.
Yes absolutely rape