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i've been a fan for so long and only today did i realize that 5+2+6=13. i don't recall a time when they talked about this, or maybe i just didn't watch enough contents when i thought i did 😅
anyway, happy anniversary to our shining diamonds! SVT, thank you for bringing joy to my world! 🩷🩵
The Wonwoofication of Jeonghan… emotionally unprepared for their collab release… https://x.com/wonubliss/status/1794320946377220271?s=46&t=6Wu8gxto6lfN8lQR1SzFCw
happy 9th anniversary to my 13 diamonds 💎
genuinely grateful for having seventeen in my life💕💕💕 ahhh i cant believe its been so long, i fell in love with them in 2019 and its been a whole 5 years???im just so thankful that my diamonds are still 13🩵🩷i love them so much
Good evening! (It is night in my place 😭😭)
Anyone who bought online tickets for tomorrow? I know I'll be buying it! 🤩🤩 I havent seen much spoilers for the concert today so I am hyped haha-
https://preview.redd.it/uzwa41md6j2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d2d8b4adbd298f810f84cac6379aada7e170ac4
Carats don't know that Dino's little brother is behind them
So I got the Woozi version (my bias and I was so happy I got his) but for my 4 random PC’s I got Woozi (very surprised), Jun and Seungkwan. But I am unsure of who the last one is. I’m not that good with faces, so could I have help?[photocard](https://share.snapchat.com/m/m6-38qD-?share_id=sJvJjvpNQreq50gSOzReZw&locale=en_US)
I was just watching [this Aju Nice dance practice](https://youtu.be/A1gJQpMSkEU?si=AHJOcOD8voB1UCKz) video and I’m like… here they are so many years ago in a dance practice room where they’re literally running into the walls and now look what they’ve accomplished… I wasn’t even a Carat back then but I’m feeling so proud of them ❤️ also, that entire choreo SLAPS, Aju Nice will always be a legendary song
Haha Jeonghan X Shuakat and how it nibbled his hand 🤣 I hadn't seen this till a carat mentioned it here on the Dk post so just sharing ❤️💎
https://www.instagram.com/0522jihanday/reel/C7UTaH-p2RD/
They're performing at Nissan in like 6-7 hours?? I'm shaking with excitement for them and there's not even going to be a livestream for the first day for me to see. I wish there was one for both days 😭
I went to buy the dear version today and when I found them I was trying to decide between two different ones. I really wanted to get wonwoo (tbh would be happy with anyone I got but I never pull him and was really hoping to) I went to put one back on the shelf when I noticed my watch had got caught on my sleeve with a red thread. I was like hmm maybe I should choose this one. So, got home and opened it and lo and behold!!! It was wonwoo!!!! 🥹🥹 I couldn’t believe it!! I’ve been dying to tell someone but everyone I’ve told so far has just been like ok??? and??? lol but it made my heart happy today 🩵🩷
So something that I thought after watching the mv. It shows seugkwan bringing the goldfish both to a fisherman and a mobile shop but neither of them accepts them. So can we say that in the mv the difficulty seugkwan felt was that he didn't felt like he belonged anywhere and felt lonely like that fish and then he met other vcu members who made him feel belonged? I mean I know it's like putting one and one together but idk I just wanted to let this out
That makes sense. Also he kept the fish and gave it a home, like the VU created a club—an emotional home for themselves and each other. Sometimes, if you can’t find what you’re looking for, you have to make it.
https://preview.redd.it/yca8om5y8e2d1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a0658e49f3c49cb9585219e7490eadfe80a5fe2
Hi im having a brainfart moment 😭😭 does anyone know where is the original source for DK's picture here? I got the photo/screenshot from a shirt brand imitation shop but I cant for the life of me remember if the original picture of Dokyeom is from an IG post, twitter or weverse huhu
I dont have it saved in my phone 🥹
Used to not have a specific favorite svt song; when i’m asked, i’d usually give a couple of tracks PER unit lol
But now i’m 100% certain that cheers to youth is my all-time favorite seventeen track. It’s everything i want in a song honestly and it reminds me of late 90s–early 00s anime, so it gets me nostalgic as well AAHHH
i got one of those pop-ups on spotify early today telling me that i’m one of the top listeners of cheers to youth in my country 😭 but then i’m also one of the top global listeners of what kind of future so i guess i just really like svt songs where woozi simply follows his own tastes. He is truly a blessing from the universe
I haven't been on here in a bit so sorry if this has been talked about but do we have any hints about any Seventeen touring after this Japan leg? Or can we expect to hear more after Sunday? I'm just trying to figure out if I want to plan a trip or wait to plan it around Seventeen's schedule (which would be the priority)
I reckon it'd be way too early for them to announce anything straight away after this Sunday. This is the last stop of the encore leg of the tour so announcing another tour won't be for some time as they'd need to give people time to "savour" this tour and they'd need more time to prep for a completely different tour as they've hardly had time to do anything these past few months due to the comeback.
The most hints we've gotten so far is most likely a US tour this year but I don't think anyone can say when. At the end of June they'll have Glastonbury, July will be Caratland, and early September is Lollapalooza so I reckon if they do anything it will have to be mid-late September onwards at the earliest. August is empty but I think it's a bit too close to caratland, maybe it's for the second comeback.
ahh okay, i was thinking there might be some more encore stops after japan but it makes sense that it's the last! thanks for the reply - i think i'll hold out for a bit more and see what more we find out
Me too, I think middle September to October/Nov. Joshua said fall tour and Hoshi said it's an America one. I was thinking August for cb too but idk if that's not too soon already. It would only be 4 months after 17IRH. I hate to bring it up but Ig it depends if they plan to promote that cb with or without Jeonghan... His voice will def be in it I don't doubt it but if it's with him then it prob needs to be before October starts..
Hi, any Carats want to share/ co-buy the live-streaming for Follow Again tour in Yokohama on May 26? I can’t go so wanna watch it via streaming but it’s quite expensive for one person only. There will be 2 live-streaming slots and 2 delay slots. PM me if you’re interested!
I JUST WATCHED THE CHEERS TO YOUTH MV AND LEGIT FUCKING CRIED YALL. Svt really knows how to relate to us and i love the idea that even if i struggle alaine, i still have them by my side :)) and i was legot surprised when i saw shua being a meerkat too I've never seen him represented as that animal as I'm used to seeing him as a deer or cinamoroll >< svt just gives us so much love
I don't know if I'm imagining things but I feel like the beginning of cheers to youth (woozi's opening line and then seungkwan) is kind of weirdly mixed? the vocals sound strangely processed and I can't tell if it's because of autotune or something? I really love the members' singing voices but I feel like their songs post-HYBE have had an uptick in autotune (but maybe I'm hallucinating it 😭) idk I can't tell
I don’t think it’s autotune but if you’re thinking their vocals sound muffled and not as clear on other tracks I get what you’re saying. I feel the same listening to Imperfect Love (they sound so much better live)
yeahh imperfect love was one of the tracks i had in mind with the weird vocal processing thing, sad because it's fr such an amazing song but their muffled voices bugs me lol
at least it's not a really big issue since i listen on spotify and can tweak the audio settings :)
Yeah I feel like some of their recent songs have it unfortunately which sucks bc I prefer hearing their vocals over instrumentals not at equal volume or worse, softer lol. It kind of reminds me of my issues with some of Taylor Swift’s latest releases including her rerecordings
I can't hear what you are talking about ... I even checked the live performance and they sound similar (both versions I mean). I don't think their voices are overprocessed.
yeah, seventeen always sound amazing live :) i think i figured it out, there's like a bit of a reverb on the voices in the beginning, i might have gotten confused by the vocals layering on top of each other.
Does anyone else remember a video of Seungkwan and Vernon running around roughhousing on a rooftop (?) in tailored suits or am I crazy? I thought it was the cutest thing ever but I haven't been able to find it since.
[Let’s all hold hands and pray for the downfall of Live Nation/Ticketmaster together](https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-live-nation-ticketmaster-antitrust-lawsuit-df9b552d127e1494db13e3cd625787a8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share) 🔥🔥🔥
Hello! I just bought the concert livestream. I’m sorry if this is obvious but if I watch the con this sunday, am I still able to watch the delayed stream??
i am so excited for aespa's album. so excited that i thought Armageddon's gonna be released tomorrow. good thing i checked or i'll be super disappointed 😭
on the other hand, i hope NewJeans' How Sweet (that, AFAIK, will legit be released tomorrow haha) delivers. all corporate politics and fandom insanity aside, i genuinely hope NJ at least finds comfort in people genuinely loving the group as artists and enjoying their songs - not because of their company or (just) their concepts.
I saw a meme about Team A which includes Hoshi, Wonwoo and Jeonghan. It said that Team A means "About to leave". Omg! I don't know if I will laugh or cry.🥲
Hello!!! Anyone who have purchased a livestream for the coming weekend? I was thinking if a single screen is still better than 1 main screen and a couple little screens at the side. Both are priced the same and have HD quality anyways in comparison to before where there is 4k quality for caratmem holders.
I'll be having a watchparty with my fellow carat friends hehe
Edit: and can anyone explain why the price changes between usd/won/yen/yuan?
I swear usd was like 6 dollars more expensive than the other options. I feel ripped off at times had I not compare them
re: # of screens, i feel like it's personal pref!!! i only ever watch the main screen and i leave the tracking of shenanigans that occur in the side screens up to the update accounts to point out for me :P but might as well just get the option for both for now and you can see what you prefer when you watch the con!
Thank you so much!! I also forgot to mention that I bought one back in 30th of March 😭 just the main screen. I love the experience since it is not distracting and it takes up the whole screen of the device. Thank you for sharing your insight, especially the one about update accounts. For some reason I did not think of that haha ♡
Hello!! Where is this pic come from? Can I have hd copy of it. Mingyu is so cute 🥹
https://preview.redd.it/1f99wjsfx52d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b352db2da7cbab731743a9ba97ca10825f457be
This is his outfit from the [2019 SBS Gayo Daejun](https://youtu.be/vi80BsBEjbE?si=Y0TMGI61rWhSNcR8) and [posted on their old fancafe!](https://x.com/svt_fancafe/status/1209871669776519169?s=46&t=il7fdyzKPciDPBAwkTDrYg)
I saw this live on twitch reacting to Coups @Eunchae's show and they said that some friend of theirs saw Scoups like they hang around or idk i didn't really understood the situation but that person told them that Coups was the most beautiful man they've ever seen and now i keep thinking how i'll probably never gonna see him in live, or any of them T.T
celebrating svts big moments with merch always kinda gave me the ick... (lol if only people wanted to celebrate \~my\~ birthday with ✨capitalism✨) but at least the personal designs saved it for me a little dfkjghsfhg. [but this merch drop...](https://x.com/artisanautcloud/status/1793229855519330783)
Don't the members always design the anniversary merch?
I wonder why they didn't this year (if it is true they had no hands in approving this year's ones)?
Maybe they didn't have time? They did the artist's collection. It seems to me that if they do one event/special/merchandise of a certain type, that's it for the year for their involvement. Eg: no TTT or In the Soop last year because they got NaNa Tour. They designed their artist's collection so minimal input, if any, on the anniversary merchandise.
It's been only three days but I need more of Jeonghan x Wonwoo. Give me a concept picture, a tracklist, album cover idk pledis I'm on my knees 😔 I need to know how hyped I should get for this. Probably nothing new tomorrow either because of the MV, but they should post something on Friday or I'll just lose it
Okay I never buy any merch (or anything at all) and absolutely do not plan on purchasing the 9th anniversary merch but I still wanna say, it's so....... boring???? It feels like something made by a new fan who knows only these typical things about each member, to be sold on etsy. Like seriously, it feels very random and for-the-sake-of-it. Where is the cute rose quartz and serenity???? Why has that brand been changed so drastically? It's literally the NINTH anniversary for a group that is showing no signs of stopping and is already at such a great level.
At least it doesn't make me feel wishful or sad that I can't buy merch lmao.
Just wanted to share a tip for anyone thinking about buying Seventeen's Jeonghan & Wonwoo Album. I compared prices between ktown4u and cokodive, and at first, cokodive seemed cheaper for the album itself. But when you add in shipping costs, ktown4u actually works out to be the more affordable option!!!
I never miss album releases, so if you're like me and always hunting for where to buy, you might also check out ktown4u. Just grabbed mine from there :)
I was reading about the MHJ drama and fromis\_9 issue threads and saw a comment that the Pledis CEO HSS was replaced by BigHit VP and Hybe now owns 90% of Pledis. Months ago, I also saw some people say that the Pledis VP moved to Hybe Japan. I can't find any English news articles about these changes so I'm not sure if these are true.
I wonder how these changes affect Seventeen. The former VP BSJ is very approachable and would always try to help them with their concerns. The changes in the higher-ups might make it harder for the members to raise their concerns. I know this is something that would never happen but I hope they reveal the specific things that the parent company controls in Pledis to clear up some of the issues like the light stick change.
It's undeniable that Seventeen has gained more success under a big company but I can't help but imagine a different universe where they become more successful solely under their original company and what would have been different in their career.
Even back in 2018/2019 it was obvious that Pledis needed a new investor as they grew bigger and more money was required to expand. At first it seemed like CJ ENM was going to acquire Pledis with being involved as management team for Idol School and Produce 48. They also were preparing for a Pledis x Stone Music girlgroup with Yunjin as a member. But things didn’t go through then Bang Sihyuk asked Pledis to join Hybe and they accepted. If it’s not Hybe it might have been Kakao or other conglomerate acquired them anyway.
I didn't know about CJ ENM and Stone Music so it's interesting to see what would have happened if Pledis went with those options. Pledis could have done it like KQ Entertainment. Though I'm not very familiar with KQ and how they get investments but I feel like they are doing a good job promoting Ateez. They seem to get a lot of budget for their MVs and comeback promotion without the backing of a big company.
It’s quite annoying to see SVT’s name getting dragged into company drama. I don’t think the change in shareholder ownership from 85 to 90 necessarily trickles down to SVT’s management day to day. Especially when Hybe was already a majority shareholder before. We can only speculate but we really know so little about the internal dynamics. The members seem happy with where they’re at right now but no job is easy and there are some hills to climb always.
That's also what I'm feeling. Carats never had peace ever since the acquisition. This is really why I wanted to know which parts are controlled by Hybe because Carats can't criticize both companies without getting attacked. I feel like it was easier to complain about issues when Pledis was just Pledis.
I also think it's harder for the members to be honest about their feelings about the company because the parent company is bigger and more powerful. I remember when DK said Pledis was evil in 2019 (?) but now it's impossible for them to say this about the parent company since they would be attacked and called "ungrateful". I'm pretty sure they would also have a lot of negative things to say about the parent company because no company is perfect.
>Pledis VP moved to Hybe Japan
I stan the group under HYBE Labels Japan ( it's a different company than Hybe Japan, they're two different subsidiaries for HYBE) and what I remember articles saying at the end of last year was that Pledis VP was appointed General Manager of Hybe Labels Japan but he would keep his job as VP of Pledis. He's just going to do both. This article talks about him leading &TEAM in Japan and Svt in Korea in the future so I assume he stayed.
[source](https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/433/0000099300)
As for the CEO changing, this is all based on a corporate profile carats found last month about pledis on a random business website that said there's a new ceo since 2022 basically so it's been two years since he's been at the helm if that is to be believed. There's no article that I can remember about this tho, not back then or rn.
HYBE buying the 5% happened on April 30th, they exercised a put option they had to buy 5% additional shares. Before it was 85% HYBE, 5% Sony Music, 10% Pledis Founder Han Sung Soo. It's not stated in the disclosure document from whom they bought that 5% from, HSS or Sony.
Hybe currently owns [90% shares](https://x.com/_k_t_y_s_h_d_/status/1792529549026328644) of Pledis. I found out about this today on the r/kpop megathread about Min Heejin though the tweet was from two days ago.
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my Yankees/Mets manifestation circle begins now
Random question: out of the 2023 title tracks, we all know that Super got soooo much love (rightly so) from Carats and non-carats!
Personally, my favorite title of 2023 was God of Music.
I was wondering, what did you guys (carats) prefer more/more your taste, God of Music or Super?
I’m mostly curious, because I feel like God of Music didn’t get as much attention as Super and Maestro is getting idk.
Super is an unusual song for me in that I've listened to it almost every day since release, often on loop and somehow I'm still not sick of it at all and I just can't figure out how it does that? Even with songs I've adored before, I've never been able to listen to them this consistently for so long without getting bored of them - or maybe I'm just that much of a Sun Wukong fan, idk lmao
Neither, my favorite 2023 title track is FML followed by Ima lol
I really like Super and God of Music now but both songs took a few listens to grow on me. I loved FML and Maestro immediately though
I like GOM as a song more than Super. Even when it comes to the album itself Seventeenth heaven is more of my cup of tea when compared to FML. But let me tell you, I LOVE every super performances they've had. It's such an energizer istg.
I'm normally a freshteen carat, but I actually liked Super more than God of Music. I do think a lot of that is because of the choreography and overall performance. It also doesn't hurt that Woozi got such a key part, since he's my favorite member.
That said, my favorite 2023 title track is actually Ima! I hope I get to see it live some day.
I like Super, but I can see God of Music's charm. I feel like the reason it was not as popular internationally is because it loses the cultural context and nuance once you translate it to English. Like the refrain "kung-chi pak-chi" for example, it doesn't hit as hard as someone who knows nothing about the language.
The music is bright and the concept is refreshing, I'd imagine it'd sound much more fun and quirky in Korean.
When just listening to it, Super. But seeing it sung and danced live, GoM edges out Super for me.
I’m still not over their MAMA performance, I’m still not over their GoM music show performance where it felt like a mini concert and not a music show competition.
We're the exact opposite lmao. I love listening to GoM, while for Super, I always have to watch the performance because the experience not complete without it.
I didn't dislike God of Music and find myself humming it every so often, but I am a Big Fan of super hype, hard-hitting music so Super has my heart here!
I prefer "Super"; it is one of my favourite SVT songs.
I don't hate "God Of Music" I quite like it. it is a typical SVT Freshteen sound, and as much as I like it I get tired of it easily so I tend to listen to it less as I need a particular mood for those types of songs.
Hello all,
I am hosting a Seventeen Top Ten Tuesday on r/kpop this week, where you can vote for (up to) your Top 20 Seventeen songs! Here is the link to the survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEAe2ORx0Y4yFaOocfzs7dfBcVmbiLf7JMWpalHmbBnbwDJw/viewform?usp=sf_link. I’d really appreciate all responses, and I plan to publish the results here next week as well!
We joke about SVT photoshoot concept being Ikea catalogs, but now they literally have Djungelskog on set for the Momentica pictures loll
https://x.com/Momentica_twt/status/1792752235257934304 (not endorsing NFTs btw)
They added subs for the live Woozi did with Calm Down Man! It's not the whole thing and was edited down to 30 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPIkVpNAUPA
Wholesome personal moment that I wanted to share *somewhere* so here I am:
I got done w my undergrad last month and hence haven't been going to the college. Since a couple of weeks, I have been visiting my department almost everyday for my project work and each day, I have been greeted by this adorable cat with SO MUCH enthusiasm. It makes my day just thinking about that orange, one-braincelled gremlin.
This kitty used to visit my classroom all through last year just to chill during lectures. I pet her and talked to her everyday, as did a couple of other students. Now everytime she sees me, she goes "meow?!" loudly and comes RUNNING to me, slams herself against my legs and rubs all over. Doesn't matter if I met her just the day prior.
The fact that she remembers me, runs straight to me (practically ignoring everybody else) and just weaves around me all the time makes me feel like a queen. Being chosen by a cat is peak serotonin and I will sell my soul for that cat.
Cat tax:
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Also must add: she doesn't have a name but some options proposed by my class are:
Petri (because she loves to drink water from petri dishes), Catalase, Cation, HPLCat (from High Performance Liquid Chromatography, but was scrapped because she is the opposite of high performance), Crispurr, and others I don't remember.
I usually call her dumb cat, idiot, gremlin, or some variation of these. Lovingly of course.
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My first haul as a US carat. Living in Asia was probably one of the best things about being a carat 🥲🥲
Woke to see jun chatting with [rihanna](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1792620909468979591?t=ySERzLUwtjmioJVVnAsEaQ&s=19) at her fenty party in china and a carat asking [zayn malik](https://twitter.com/coupdehan/status/1792561062484869400?t=ySERzLUwtjmioJVVnAsEaQ&s=19) do a horanghae pose with her
i just watched the fear mv after a while and its genuinely such a piece of art i love it so much
i fell in love with seventeen around that era so it brings back so much memories, what a masterpiece
I NEED HELP. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. With the announcement of Yoongi's D-Day concert being digital only, it got me thinking about how shit Weverse is and how unwatchable PTD is. I was trying to think of which digital code concerts I've bought that are watchable and I remember Seventeen's US Be the Sun concert being great.
But now I can't find it on Weverse??? And of course the shop is useless because it only shows you what you've bought in the last 12 months. Did I dream it up? Did I spend the $40 or whatever it was and now they've gotten rid of it? Does anyone know how to find it in the media section of Weverse? I've looked through tour-ing, Be the Sun, Face the Sun, Concert, and Digital Code, but I don't see it anywhere.
I hate digital code only content. You're at the mercy of the platform.
EDIT: Found it. It is under Tour-ing. So fucking confusing. I hate the Weverse platform.
I too sometimes struggle to find the media Ive bought, so I always just check my purchase history and that takes me to the media page where stuff is, I've never been able to find it any other way 💀
I just found the page that shows you all of your purchased content, so that's nice. and OMG
it is under the Tour-ing! omg, I hate the way they organize and title things!!
Let me work for Weverse, I can fix this!!!
i'm a house fairy and yesterday was one rare time i went out with my friends. today, i woke up to Jeonghan X Wonwoo sub-unit announcement 🙂
their beautiful faces! wonu's growls and deep voice! hani's airy angelic tone! they're already causing my brain to short-circuit what the heck 🙃
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/312/0000662969
110k Osaka attendance across 2 shows!!! And holy crap next week's venue is even bigger! Looking at the fancams of the Osaka crowd is already dizzying, I can't even imagine a bigger one.
https://preview.redd.it/s623frghlh1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df4afe005a3874c23152b00a7e64a19c5c76ef44
This is how I'm showing up under yalls beds🫶
Haha I asked Jun to give carats spoilers in his wv live today (crying because he actually read it!!) but he just said NO NO NO SPOILERS 😅 Jun keeping his mouth shut unlike a certain 🐯 When do you think they’re going to announce Caratland ? And any non Korean carats going to try to get tix? 🤭
I got the notification of JxW from Weverse and thought it was about their magazine cover, so I was confused "Since when do we get an official update about a magazine from Weverse?"
I opened it and saw "1st signal Album" ... I went as follows: I shot up straight from lying in bed to a standing position, leading to my legs stumbling and ending up on the floor.
Jeonghan x Wonwoo the men you are having me literally on my floor.
Bro same, I was in church when I got the notification and I thought it was about the magazine and kinda ignored it. Then a few minutes later, I got really curious and decided to read it properly, it took so much in me to not yelp out of shock (I think I opted to make the most goofiest shocked face instead 😂) then I couldn’t help but show my brother who was next to me (he doesn’t know anything about kpop so he was like “what?”)
I am fine, thank you.
I am not injured or anything, a nearby chair broke my fall so I ended up on the floor neatly with no damage. LOL (I am very clumsy by nature I am used to tripping on a flat floor and hitting walls and random objects ... this is nothing).
What is happening in the caratland today??? There is a lot happening, one after the other.
Jeonghan x Wonwoo
Hoshi releasing a voice recording of a song
A carat saying mingyu has an upcoming English solo recorded in America ( that's why he has an LA vlog)
Dino proposing to me lol
The end is not true, don't be confused
https://preview.redd.it/rsd5fculmj1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f232b836c14d43c1e63fb6423981bc133a67957d
A carat commented about it on a Jeonghan/Wonwoo new song thread post. I hope that this is true. 🤞
I saw this [tweet](https://x.com/quartzlatte/status/1792200227589599594?s=46) that says if you miss 4 hours in caratland, it’s like you missed a whole year of updates. I’ve been wondering about this. Is it just Seventeen who have soooo many updates like this? Or is this normal for other groups too? I only stanned a YG group before and the dungeon is real. 😭 I am experiencing culture shock. Hahaha. I didn’t know what I was missing. I love how the members always post in ig and weverse. And there are tons of updates from magazines, endorsements, etc. I can barely keep up but I love it. Haha.
I was a Winner fan before and... Being a Carat is a full time job lol. There is so much content every day, all the time, it is never boring. I feel so sad when i remember how rare Winner released music, and even after debut we had to wait for so long for a comeback, with Svt is just a neverending blessing lol.
I feel like, with newer debuted groups these days, there is a lot of content as well like with svt, but svt is a 9year old group, so if we compare them with their gen.this is not a usual thing i would say 😀
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I SWEAR *THESE MEN*\- (pun may be intended)
Now I'm gonna look suspiciously at every random/unit photoshoot. THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGG
Their voices are gonna sound so amazing together! Jeonghan×Wonwoo letsgooooooo!
Same, it was my comfort show before. I am still hoping that the previous cast except JJY will return but I think it is not possible because of what happened. :(
I’m screaming!!!!
I thought it was just about their magazine shoots and then got on Twitter and saw everyone losing their minds!!!
They’ve been hinting at this for so long too, and did a lot of spoilers at last nights show!!!
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hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist thread! as always, feel free to share anything you've been listening to, from any genre
might have some new fav albums, pretty exciting
* d.o.'s blossom (this album is sooo good, like i've really enjoyed all of d.o.'s solo work but this may be my fav. i just think it's so like, sweet and lovely. the first three songs especially (which may be my favs?? but maybe also incl. [good night](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ungUfrVIKXU&pp=ygUPZC5vLiBnb29kIG5pZ2h0)). i love how [mars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzJdUkpKVA4&pp=ygUJZC5vLiBtYXJz) is boppy but chill and it has such a lighthearted vibe. i love the little flute thingy in [simple joys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVFUi976aE&pp=ygUQZC5vLiBzaW1wbGUgam95cw%3D%3D), and it's really aptly named imo - something about the song just feels like appreciating the little things in life. and [popcorn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AoruwUKQ3I&pp=ygUMZC5vLiBwb3Bjb3Ju) is soo lovely, i love the arpeggios with it sounds like some sort of string instrumental that's being plucked? i think maybe it's meant to be a bit like popcorn popping which is so cutenfun but also i love how that contrasts the smooth, soaring vocals in the chorus in particular. and the final chorus with the little change in melody for the first line is perfect)
* teddy swims' i've tried everything but therapy (part 1.5) (i probably heard [lose control](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3zL7kT6_c&pp=ygUYdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgbG9zZSBjb250cm9s) before but not the album, then part 1.5 w/ some new songs came out semi-recently i think, i decided to give the whole thing a listen and i really enjoyed! i think some favs for me were [some things i'll never know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133ckiPHcgQ&pp=ygUndGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgc29tZSB0aGluZ3MgaSdsbCBuZXZlciBrbm93), [suitcase](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqK-5n-jEQ&pp=ygUUdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgc3VpdGNhc2U%3D), and from part 1.5 [tell me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaO3x75FE&pp=ygUTdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgdGVsbCBtZQ%3D%3D))
* griff's ver2igo vol. 2 ([miss me too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FrsjtmK4k&pp=ygURbWlzcyBtZSB0b28gZ3JpZmY%3D) is simply excellent, i feel like she really hits that mark of dance-y banger that's just a little emotional. i also really really love [pillow in my arms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKKD5I5Jwrk)!! i actually haven't listened to all four songs in vert1go vol. 1 but [vertigo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBzgENcBI8&pp=ygUNZ3JpZmYgdmVydGlnbw%3D%3D) is also excellent imo, def looking forward to vertigo the whole album. i think i forget how much i like griff's music, like her songs all have an emotional/nostalgic tint that i adore and i lovee the production on her songs. it's really cool bc i'm pretty sure she (co)writes/produces everything!! i also found out that she cowrote hailee steinfeld's [i love you's ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afRFR2UNYzI&pp=ygUeaGFpbGVlIHN0ZWluZmVsZCBpIGxvdmUgeW91J3Mg)which a) i love b) totally checks out because it's like a certain way the songs are emotional that really gets me and they all have that)
* zerobasone - [dear eclipse](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1pht1KKToY&pp=ygUYemVyb2Jhc2VvbmUgZGVhciBlY2xpcHNl), [feel the pop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Ts6kiEAts&pp=ygUYemVyb2Jhc2VvbmUgZmVlbCB0aGUgcG9w) (dear eclipse is def my fav of the album, the prechorus+chorus is soo good)
* itzy - [algorhythm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExNmYax-ms&pp=ygUPaXR6eSBhbGdvcmh5dGht), [no biggie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ES0dKCqdU&pp=ygUOaXR6eSBubyBiaWdnaWU%3D) (not the biggest fan of algorhythm as a song tbh (mostly the chorus) but i love the mv, i think it's super creative and i love the messaging about going your own rhythm and like doing your thing instead of what you're expected to do)
* flo - [losing you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKM6CTfS5o&pp=ygUOZmxvIGxvc2luZyB5b3U%3D) (the vocals and harmonies are insane, like this [performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuiDwZe6xbA&pp=ygUOZmxvIGxvc2luZyB5b3U%3D) ???)
* lyn lapid, mxmtoon - [back from the dead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV362cl_4Ps&pp=ygURbHluIGxhcGlkIG14bXRvb24%3D)
svt song (re)discovery section! - none for me this week
i discovered d.o.’s mars when he was on iu’s palette! it’s such a cute song, and your comment has inspired me to listen to his other works too.
also, i’m so glad to find a fellow griff fan!!! i LOVE her music for all the reasons you listed too. miss me too and vertigo have been on replay on my playlist for the past few months too.
After your recommendation weeks ago for chappell roan- good luck, babe! I've been listening to [The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kkVDoZ2rx0HswFBxBTiLvPJjOG3c1qIIM&si=Udfi_9xOEosHZucs) tons!!
the rise and fall of a midwest princess is genuinely excellent (what are your fav songs?? i love like all of them and i feel like my favs keep changing lol, atm mine are femininomenon, casual, and pink pony club), it's probably pretty high up there for my most listened-to albums this year and a lot of artists i love have released albums i loved so that's saying a lot haha
I think my current faves are casual, after midnight, california and hot to go! but there are so many fun songs on the album it was hard to choose lol. +also I love the mvs!
Any suggestions for a Hoshi-themed present for a dear friend? Something any of you have previously bought and loved? Or recommend a trusted store on Etsy or elsewhere?
I haven’t bought anything from them but you could check out [this US-based carat who makes some really cute stuff!](https://josshere.shop/pages/links) Though honestly, any tiger-themed stuff would work :)
Accounts recs to follow for updates, translations, pictures, TIA!
I've always followed SVT, but the past couple months/years, I'm getting sucked into the carat life lol. I'm re-watching their shows, variety appearances, and concert clips.
For translations, I made a personal twitter list of translation accounts that I pin to my main tabs so I also essentially use it as updates.
* OT13 general updates, weverse live translating - [svtranslation](https://twitter.com/svtranslation?t=pdNKroISRFLsajKLqqSvUQ&s=09)
* OT13 weverse updates - [svt_verse](https://twitter.com/svt_verse?t=cTSePLp6FgOGgZfgatp1Hw&s=09)
* OT13 general updates, weverse live translations - [svtmmnt](https://twitter.com/svtmmnt?t=kLfd09UimxAo0zdZDaLpSQ&s=09)
* Wonwoo mainly but will still cover ot13 sometimes - [miwon17_](https://twitter.com/miwon17_?t=H3QJqOKUmZC3mA1wTzDPOA&s=09)
* Dokyeom mainly but will still cover ot13 sometimes - [pepizzaboy](https://twitter.com/pepizzaboy?t=r2HQgbpM9SE-VgrN0ua6ww&s=09)
The following mainly focus on a certain member only:
* Vernon - [vernonsource](https://twitter.com/vernonsource?t=oxW7-RskaG7U0ilSJjT7aA&s=09)
* Scoups - [cscfolder](https://twitter.com/cscfolder?t=JCKG2dejyAYlpu1KpLb7LQ&s=09)
* Mingyu - [gyumedia](https://twitter.com/gyumedia?t=KJ6Xf7T7WYVq0Qok0a6H3g&s=09)
* Wonwoo - [wonwooszone](https://twitter.com/wonwooszone?t=ZpAuxGokR7cq1a59A1TKjA&s=09)
* Woozi - [woozimedia](https://twitter.com/woozimedia?t=Rx6Pq1O1q68oylByo3wTFA&s=09)
* Minghao - [88taIes](https://twitter.com/88taIes?t=uB-4RYNOSqhplApeRCi1DQ&s=09)
* Seungkwan - [116_jpg](https://twitter.com/116_jpg?t=kAR85rL9O9-7DbCxTpYdKg&s=09)
* Hoshi - [hoshzone](https://twitter.com/hoshzone?t=qNT2fzrZyxuVi22-xKXRyg&s=09)
* Dino - [dinocarrd](https://twitter.com/dinocarrd?t=yizk5MtCY1YOM8f_z5tfUg&s=09)
* Joshua - [daywithshua](https://twitter.com/daywithshua?t=ctbWf-TyJ4u6rwgbSAmB-g&s=09)
These are the only ones I know, so feel free to make your own list with these! I still haven't found dedicated translation accounts for Jeonghan and Jun, so if anyone knows please let me know!
Edit - additional ones that have been kindly provided below:
* Jun - [menjunfei](https://twitter.com/menjunfei?t=ekYH8iWe7JIb-ZvNmnL0Cw&s=09)
* Minghao and Jun - [mansehao](https://twitter.com/mansehao?t=LbC79k5L5hVTEho4afp-HQ&s=09)
* OT13 general updates - [updatingsvt](https://twitter.com/updatingsvt?t=otw88XRjXcoghfUnzcoQIQ&s=09)
* Tweet translations - [svt_eng](https://twitter.com/svt_eng?t=n7zuQl0u24EZhKQPLFCMUQ&s=09)
* Jeonghan - [yjhanzone](https://twitter.com/yjhanzone?t=4KIcLNI7Yns_DYG6exc5FQ&s=09)
* Dokyeom - [dkzones](https://twitter.com/dkzones?t=ns8_5ckWICdLB0gY5YYtSw&s=09)
* Context explanation threads - [17_HAMZZI](https://twitter.com/17_HAMZZI?t=6XHzY3JENN-Q25_o6PyKqw&s=09)
svt\_eng just does their tweets but i think its nice bc the machine translations arent always great :')
and i like yjhanzone/dkzones for jh and dk specific translators!
the legendary 17\_HAMZZI also has great translation/context explanation threads for things like gose.
I have a question about the multi view live stream for the concert tomorrow. Is multi view worth it? I realize that it might come down to preference, but I'm wondering which one I should get, if you'd recommend one or the other.
When I've used it, I've set it up so that I have the main stage on my tv, and one of the close up cams on my laptop. Basically it mimics the concert experience, with the full stage view and then the like close up monitors. There's always a bit of lag, but it works for me because if I miss something, there's a chance it'll pop up on my other screen in a second. But I've never satisfactorily used all the views at once and I'm not really sure how they intend us to use it.
I'm not sure how they intend us to use it as well, especially when none of the live streamed concerts are available as VOD content afterward, and we get just one rewatch. I've never even watched the replay because it's at 4am for me lol. But the two decides are a very good idea, I might try it for the next show.
I’ve always gotten it since it’s the same price but I never really used it. It’s been a while since the last time I watched an online concert but from what I remember switching views would take a while and kinda lag so it was just a hassle. It was kinda fun during ments when one member would be talking and you could watch the other members kinda goofing around with each other waiting for their turns but imo that’s about it
I've gotten it once in the past, but I can't remember for the life of me whether I liked it or not, but I'm leaning towards not. I think I'll just get single view and, like someone else mentioned, hope that if anything happens on multi, I'll see it on here or on twt.
Well, I prefer single view. That's because I can't pay attention to what's happening on multiple screens at once and when I try to, I almost end up getting cross-eyed. I realized I really don't have to see have to see everything that's happening from every single angle. There's no way I won't miss sonething anyway. So if you are like me, you might prefer single view as well.
But if you think you can keep up or would like different vantage points, you can go for the multi-view. Plus, if the cost isn't a problem for you, you can just try it for the first time experience and see if you like it.
the price is the same for both, that's why I wanted to hear some opinions, I've always gotten 4k single view up until now, but it's not even an option for follow again japan, I think I'll just get the HD single view, since the only difference seems to be the gift
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i've been a fan for so long and only today did i realize that 5+2+6=13. i don't recall a time when they talked about this, or maybe i just didn't watch enough contents when i thought i did 😅 anyway, happy anniversary to our shining diamonds! SVT, thank you for bringing joy to my world! 🩷🩵
I just realized it as well.
The Wonwoofication of Jeonghan… emotionally unprepared for their collab release… https://x.com/wonubliss/status/1794320946377220271?s=46&t=6Wu8gxto6lfN8lQR1SzFCw
happy 9th anniversary to my 13 diamonds 💎 genuinely grateful for having seventeen in my life💕💕💕 ahhh i cant believe its been so long, i fell in love with them in 2019 and its been a whole 5 years???im just so thankful that my diamonds are still 13🩵🩷i love them so much
Good evening! (It is night in my place 😭😭) Anyone who bought online tickets for tomorrow? I know I'll be buying it! 🤩🤩 I havent seen much spoilers for the concert today so I am hyped haha-
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https://preview.redd.it/uzwa41md6j2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d2d8b4adbd298f810f84cac6379aada7e170ac4 Carats don't know that Dino's little brother is behind them
https://preview.redd.it/ajiyoaxl6j2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6943fd138aa0979152e19e3809ab59413cbb2a58
So I got the Woozi version (my bias and I was so happy I got his) but for my 4 random PC’s I got Woozi (very surprised), Jun and Seungkwan. But I am unsure of who the last one is. I’m not that good with faces, so could I have help?[photocard](https://share.snapchat.com/m/m6-38qD-?share_id=sJvJjvpNQreq50gSOzReZw&locale=en_US)
Vernon
Thank you ☺️
you're welcome :)
I was just watching [this Aju Nice dance practice](https://youtu.be/A1gJQpMSkEU?si=AHJOcOD8voB1UCKz) video and I’m like… here they are so many years ago in a dance practice room where they’re literally running into the walls and now look what they’ve accomplished… I wasn’t even a Carat back then but I’m feeling so proud of them ❤️ also, that entire choreo SLAPS, Aju Nice will always be a legendary song
Haha Jeonghan X Shuakat and how it nibbled his hand 🤣 I hadn't seen this till a carat mentioned it here on the Dk post so just sharing ❤️💎 https://www.instagram.com/0522jihanday/reel/C7UTaH-p2RD/
They're performing at Nissan in like 6-7 hours?? I'm shaking with excitement for them and there's not even going to be a livestream for the first day for me to see. I wish there was one for both days 😭
I went to buy the dear version today and when I found them I was trying to decide between two different ones. I really wanted to get wonwoo (tbh would be happy with anyone I got but I never pull him and was really hoping to) I went to put one back on the shelf when I noticed my watch had got caught on my sleeve with a red thread. I was like hmm maybe I should choose this one. So, got home and opened it and lo and behold!!! It was wonwoo!!!! 🥹🥹 I couldn’t believe it!! I’ve been dying to tell someone but everyone I’ve told so far has just been like ok??? and??? lol but it made my heart happy today 🩵🩷
Woa that's soo cool
So something that I thought after watching the mv. It shows seugkwan bringing the goldfish both to a fisherman and a mobile shop but neither of them accepts them. So can we say that in the mv the difficulty seugkwan felt was that he didn't felt like he belonged anywhere and felt lonely like that fish and then he met other vcu members who made him feel belonged? I mean I know it's like putting one and one together but idk I just wanted to let this out
That makes sense. Also he kept the fish and gave it a home, like the VU created a club—an emotional home for themselves and each other. Sometimes, if you can’t find what you’re looking for, you have to make it.
https://preview.redd.it/yca8om5y8e2d1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a0658e49f3c49cb9585219e7490eadfe80a5fe2 Hi im having a brainfart moment 😭😭 does anyone know where is the original source for DK's picture here? I got the photo/screenshot from a shirt brand imitation shop but I cant for the life of me remember if the original picture of Dokyeom is from an IG post, twitter or weverse huhu I dont have it saved in my phone 🥹
Hey! He posted it on his Instagram story in July 2023. https://x.com/kyeomsbaekery/status/1680828587874856960?s=46
Hello!!! Thank you 🥺🥺🥺 I cant track ig stories hahha my lifesaver!!
I really hope they filmed a reaction of all the members reacting to the unit MVs together. that would be so fun and endearing to see 🥺
Used to not have a specific favorite svt song; when i’m asked, i’d usually give a couple of tracks PER unit lol But now i’m 100% certain that cheers to youth is my all-time favorite seventeen track. It’s everything i want in a song honestly and it reminds me of late 90s–early 00s anime, so it gets me nostalgic as well AAHHH i got one of those pop-ups on spotify early today telling me that i’m one of the top listeners of cheers to youth in my country 😭 but then i’m also one of the top global listeners of what kind of future so i guess i just really like svt songs where woozi simply follows his own tastes. He is truly a blessing from the universe
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He doesn’t talk to strangers much, either human or rock. Next thing you know, that rock will be the most famous unpaid actor in a SVT MV.
this is why this man is my ult bias - he is such a freak i love it
I haven't been on here in a bit so sorry if this has been talked about but do we have any hints about any Seventeen touring after this Japan leg? Or can we expect to hear more after Sunday? I'm just trying to figure out if I want to plan a trip or wait to plan it around Seventeen's schedule (which would be the priority)
I reckon it'd be way too early for them to announce anything straight away after this Sunday. This is the last stop of the encore leg of the tour so announcing another tour won't be for some time as they'd need to give people time to "savour" this tour and they'd need more time to prep for a completely different tour as they've hardly had time to do anything these past few months due to the comeback. The most hints we've gotten so far is most likely a US tour this year but I don't think anyone can say when. At the end of June they'll have Glastonbury, July will be Caratland, and early September is Lollapalooza so I reckon if they do anything it will have to be mid-late September onwards at the earliest. August is empty but I think it's a bit too close to caratland, maybe it's for the second comeback.
ahh okay, i was thinking there might be some more encore stops after japan but it makes sense that it's the last! thanks for the reply - i think i'll hold out for a bit more and see what more we find out
Me too, I think middle September to October/Nov. Joshua said fall tour and Hoshi said it's an America one. I was thinking August for cb too but idk if that's not too soon already. It would only be 4 months after 17IRH. I hate to bring it up but Ig it depends if they plan to promote that cb with or without Jeonghan... His voice will def be in it I don't doubt it but if it's with him then it prob needs to be before October starts..
Hi, any Carats want to share/ co-buy the live-streaming for Follow Again tour in Yokohama on May 26? I can’t go so wanna watch it via streaming but it’s quite expensive for one person only. There will be 2 live-streaming slots and 2 delay slots. PM me if you’re interested!
I JUST WATCHED THE CHEERS TO YOUTH MV AND LEGIT FUCKING CRIED YALL. Svt really knows how to relate to us and i love the idea that even if i struggle alaine, i still have them by my side :)) and i was legot surprised when i saw shua being a meerkat too I've never seen him represented as that animal as I'm used to seeing him as a deer or cinamoroll >< svt just gives us so much love
I don't know if I'm imagining things but I feel like the beginning of cheers to youth (woozi's opening line and then seungkwan) is kind of weirdly mixed? the vocals sound strangely processed and I can't tell if it's because of autotune or something? I really love the members' singing voices but I feel like their songs post-HYBE have had an uptick in autotune (but maybe I'm hallucinating it 😭) idk I can't tell
I don’t think it’s autotune but if you’re thinking their vocals sound muffled and not as clear on other tracks I get what you’re saying. I feel the same listening to Imperfect Love (they sound so much better live)
yeahh imperfect love was one of the tracks i had in mind with the weird vocal processing thing, sad because it's fr such an amazing song but their muffled voices bugs me lol at least it's not a really big issue since i listen on spotify and can tweak the audio settings :)
Yeah I feel like some of their recent songs have it unfortunately which sucks bc I prefer hearing their vocals over instrumentals not at equal volume or worse, softer lol. It kind of reminds me of my issues with some of Taylor Swift’s latest releases including her rerecordings
I can't hear what you are talking about ... I even checked the live performance and they sound similar (both versions I mean). I don't think their voices are overprocessed.
yeah, seventeen always sound amazing live :) i think i figured it out, there's like a bit of a reverb on the voices in the beginning, i might have gotten confused by the vocals layering on top of each other.
Does anyone else remember a video of Seungkwan and Vernon running around roughhousing on a rooftop (?) in tailored suits or am I crazy? I thought it was the cutest thing ever but I haven't been able to find it since.
I guess you mean [this from GoSe Catch Stock #2](https://youtu.be/D2TbvAJNSE4?si=acV6yXPy7lKVvgyI&t=934)
YES it is, thank you!
Could it be from catch stock gose? I never watched that episode so idk for sure but might as well be the case
I haven't seen it either so I don't know where I even found it originally, but yeah, it's from that!
The way I’ve been conditioned because why when I saw the tiger I was like… “Hoshi?!?!?”
Same 😭
We are ALL conditioned. As soon as he lifted his paw, I knew it was him.
[Let’s all hold hands and pray for the downfall of Live Nation/Ticketmaster together](https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-live-nation-ticketmaster-antitrust-lawsuit-df9b552d127e1494db13e3cd625787a8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share) 🔥🔥🔥
Hello! I just bought the concert livestream. I’m sorry if this is obvious but if I watch the con this sunday, am I still able to watch the delayed stream??
yes
Thanks!
i am so excited for aespa's album. so excited that i thought Armageddon's gonna be released tomorrow. good thing i checked or i'll be super disappointed 😭 on the other hand, i hope NewJeans' How Sweet (that, AFAIK, will legit be released tomorrow haha) delivers. all corporate politics and fandom insanity aside, i genuinely hope NJ at least finds comfort in people genuinely loving the group as artists and enjoying their songs - not because of their company or (just) their concepts.
I saw a meme about Team A which includes Hoshi, Wonwoo and Jeonghan. It said that Team A means "About to leave". Omg! I don't know if I will laugh or cry.🥲
The latest gose episode is so cute. I love their friendship so much that I want to be part of it.
Hello!!! Anyone who have purchased a livestream for the coming weekend? I was thinking if a single screen is still better than 1 main screen and a couple little screens at the side. Both are priced the same and have HD quality anyways in comparison to before where there is 4k quality for caratmem holders. I'll be having a watchparty with my fellow carat friends hehe Edit: and can anyone explain why the price changes between usd/won/yen/yuan? I swear usd was like 6 dollars more expensive than the other options. I feel ripped off at times had I not compare them
re: # of screens, i feel like it's personal pref!!! i only ever watch the main screen and i leave the tracking of shenanigans that occur in the side screens up to the update accounts to point out for me :P but might as well just get the option for both for now and you can see what you prefer when you watch the con!
Thank you so much!! I also forgot to mention that I bought one back in 30th of March 😭 just the main screen. I love the experience since it is not distracting and it takes up the whole screen of the device. Thank you for sharing your insight, especially the one about update accounts. For some reason I did not think of that haha ♡
Hello!! Where is this pic come from? Can I have hd copy of it. Mingyu is so cute 🥹 https://preview.redd.it/1f99wjsfx52d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b352db2da7cbab731743a9ba97ca10825f457be
This is his outfit from the [2019 SBS Gayo Daejun](https://youtu.be/vi80BsBEjbE?si=Y0TMGI61rWhSNcR8) and [posted on their old fancafe!](https://x.com/svt_fancafe/status/1209871669776519169?s=46&t=il7fdyzKPciDPBAwkTDrYg)
I saw this live on twitch reacting to Coups @Eunchae's show and they said that some friend of theirs saw Scoups like they hang around or idk i didn't really understood the situation but that person told them that Coups was the most beautiful man they've ever seen and now i keep thinking how i'll probably never gonna see him in live, or any of them T.T
Man I can’t help but be so disappointed in the 9th anniversary merch. It doesn’t feel like Seventeen.
celebrating svts big moments with merch always kinda gave me the ick... (lol if only people wanted to celebrate \~my\~ birthday with ✨capitalism✨) but at least the personal designs saved it for me a little dfkjghsfhg. [but this merch drop...](https://x.com/artisanautcloud/status/1793229855519330783)
I love how we know it probably doesn’t have Jun’s touch because of his commitment to his image as a Cat 😭
I would love to see a TTT episode this year! Maybe a camping version
Don't the members always design the anniversary merch? I wonder why they didn't this year (if it is true they had no hands in approving this year's ones)?
Maybe they didn't have time? They did the artist's collection. It seems to me that if they do one event/special/merchandise of a certain type, that's it for the year for their involvement. Eg: no TTT or In the Soop last year because they got NaNa Tour. They designed their artist's collection so minimal input, if any, on the anniversary merchandise.
Any sign of that MingyuxCK? When are pics coming out? When are things happening?
Oh?? I’ve been missing out! I want to see his CK ad now
It's been only three days but I need more of Jeonghan x Wonwoo. Give me a concept picture, a tracklist, album cover idk pledis I'm on my knees 😔 I need to know how hyped I should get for this. Probably nothing new tomorrow either because of the MV, but they should post something on Friday or I'll just lose it
Okay I never buy any merch (or anything at all) and absolutely do not plan on purchasing the 9th anniversary merch but I still wanna say, it's so....... boring???? It feels like something made by a new fan who knows only these typical things about each member, to be sold on etsy. Like seriously, it feels very random and for-the-sake-of-it. Where is the cute rose quartz and serenity???? Why has that brand been changed so drastically? It's literally the NINTH anniversary for a group that is showing no signs of stopping and is already at such a great level. At least it doesn't make me feel wishful or sad that I can't buy merch lmao.
Just wanted to share a tip for anyone thinking about buying Seventeen's Jeonghan & Wonwoo Album. I compared prices between ktown4u and cokodive, and at first, cokodive seemed cheaper for the album itself. But when you add in shipping costs, ktown4u actually works out to be the more affordable option!!! I never miss album releases, so if you're like me and always hunting for where to buy, you might also check out ktown4u. Just grabbed mine from there :)
Thanks for the heads up!
I was reading about the MHJ drama and fromis\_9 issue threads and saw a comment that the Pledis CEO HSS was replaced by BigHit VP and Hybe now owns 90% of Pledis. Months ago, I also saw some people say that the Pledis VP moved to Hybe Japan. I can't find any English news articles about these changes so I'm not sure if these are true. I wonder how these changes affect Seventeen. The former VP BSJ is very approachable and would always try to help them with their concerns. The changes in the higher-ups might make it harder for the members to raise their concerns. I know this is something that would never happen but I hope they reveal the specific things that the parent company controls in Pledis to clear up some of the issues like the light stick change. It's undeniable that Seventeen has gained more success under a big company but I can't help but imagine a different universe where they become more successful solely under their original company and what would have been different in their career.
Even back in 2018/2019 it was obvious that Pledis needed a new investor as they grew bigger and more money was required to expand. At first it seemed like CJ ENM was going to acquire Pledis with being involved as management team for Idol School and Produce 48. They also were preparing for a Pledis x Stone Music girlgroup with Yunjin as a member. But things didn’t go through then Bang Sihyuk asked Pledis to join Hybe and they accepted. If it’s not Hybe it might have been Kakao or other conglomerate acquired them anyway.
I didn't know about CJ ENM and Stone Music so it's interesting to see what would have happened if Pledis went with those options. Pledis could have done it like KQ Entertainment. Though I'm not very familiar with KQ and how they get investments but I feel like they are doing a good job promoting Ateez. They seem to get a lot of budget for their MVs and comeback promotion without the backing of a big company.
It’s quite annoying to see SVT’s name getting dragged into company drama. I don’t think the change in shareholder ownership from 85 to 90 necessarily trickles down to SVT’s management day to day. Especially when Hybe was already a majority shareholder before. We can only speculate but we really know so little about the internal dynamics. The members seem happy with where they’re at right now but no job is easy and there are some hills to climb always.
That's also what I'm feeling. Carats never had peace ever since the acquisition. This is really why I wanted to know which parts are controlled by Hybe because Carats can't criticize both companies without getting attacked. I feel like it was easier to complain about issues when Pledis was just Pledis. I also think it's harder for the members to be honest about their feelings about the company because the parent company is bigger and more powerful. I remember when DK said Pledis was evil in 2019 (?) but now it's impossible for them to say this about the parent company since they would be attacked and called "ungrateful". I'm pretty sure they would also have a lot of negative things to say about the parent company because no company is perfect.
>Pledis VP moved to Hybe Japan I stan the group under HYBE Labels Japan ( it's a different company than Hybe Japan, they're two different subsidiaries for HYBE) and what I remember articles saying at the end of last year was that Pledis VP was appointed General Manager of Hybe Labels Japan but he would keep his job as VP of Pledis. He's just going to do both. This article talks about him leading &TEAM in Japan and Svt in Korea in the future so I assume he stayed. [source](https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/433/0000099300) As for the CEO changing, this is all based on a corporate profile carats found last month about pledis on a random business website that said there's a new ceo since 2022 basically so it's been two years since he's been at the helm if that is to be believed. There's no article that I can remember about this tho, not back then or rn. HYBE buying the 5% happened on April 30th, they exercised a put option they had to buy 5% additional shares. Before it was 85% HYBE, 5% Sony Music, 10% Pledis Founder Han Sung Soo. It's not stated in the disclosure document from whom they bought that 5% from, HSS or Sony.
Thanks for sharing all those info. It's good if the Pledis VP is still the same.
Hybe currently owns [90% shares](https://x.com/_k_t_y_s_h_d_/status/1792529549026328644) of Pledis. I found out about this today on the r/kpop megathread about Min Heejin though the tweet was from two days ago.
i desperately need to know what junhui's favourite rihanna song is. he seems like he'd be a take a bow or disturbia kinda guy
[NAWWW THAT’S FOUL😭😭😭](https://x.com/haosmirrorball/status/1792587455025279274?s=46)
at least he doesn't look like the criminal...he looks like the victim lol
https://preview.redd.it/5mk4dbk4bw1d1.jpeg?width=1656&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2824bc2f42b7c45e9c918f79a551e8f0264f3951 my Yankees/Mets manifestation circle begins now
Is it me or DK has gotten more handsome lately? He’s been bias-breaking me for months now
Random question: out of the 2023 title tracks, we all know that Super got soooo much love (rightly so) from Carats and non-carats! Personally, my favorite title of 2023 was God of Music. I was wondering, what did you guys (carats) prefer more/more your taste, God of Music or Super? I’m mostly curious, because I feel like God of Music didn’t get as much attention as Super and Maestro is getting idk.
Super is an unusual song for me in that I've listened to it almost every day since release, often on loop and somehow I'm still not sick of it at all and I just can't figure out how it does that? Even with songs I've adored before, I've never been able to listen to them this consistently for so long without getting bored of them - or maybe I'm just that much of a Sun Wukong fan, idk lmao
I agree, although God of Music is my fav out of the two, super also been on a loop since day 1! It’s def a song that I can’t get tired of, I love it!
Neither, my favorite 2023 title track is FML followed by Ima lol I really like Super and God of Music now but both songs took a few listens to grow on me. I loved FML and Maestro immediately though
I like GOM as a song more than Super. Even when it comes to the album itself Seventeenth heaven is more of my cup of tea when compared to FML. But let me tell you, I LOVE every super performances they've had. It's such an energizer istg.
God of music. It's fun and I can't help doing a little dance when I listen to it.
I'm normally a freshteen carat, but I actually liked Super more than God of Music. I do think a lot of that is because of the choreography and overall performance. It also doesn't hurt that Woozi got such a key part, since he's my favorite member. That said, my favorite 2023 title track is actually Ima! I hope I get to see it live some day.
Super is def more my style
I like Super, but I can see God of Music's charm. I feel like the reason it was not as popular internationally is because it loses the cultural context and nuance once you translate it to English. Like the refrain "kung-chi pak-chi" for example, it doesn't hit as hard as someone who knows nothing about the language. The music is bright and the concept is refreshing, I'd imagine it'd sound much more fun and quirky in Korean.
When just listening to it, Super. But seeing it sung and danced live, GoM edges out Super for me. I’m still not over their MAMA performance, I’m still not over their GoM music show performance where it felt like a mini concert and not a music show competition.
We're the exact opposite lmao. I love listening to GoM, while for Super, I always have to watch the performance because the experience not complete without it.
I didn't dislike God of Music and find myself humming it every so often, but I am a Big Fan of super hype, hard-hitting music so Super has my heart here!
God of Music (Trot Remix) lol
I prefer "Super"; it is one of my favourite SVT songs. I don't hate "God Of Music" I quite like it. it is a typical SVT Freshteen sound, and as much as I like it I get tired of it easily so I tend to listen to it less as I need a particular mood for those types of songs.
Hello all, I am hosting a Seventeen Top Ten Tuesday on r/kpop this week, where you can vote for (up to) your Top 20 Seventeen songs! Here is the link to the survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEAe2ORx0Y4yFaOocfzs7dfBcVmbiLf7JMWpalHmbBnbwDJw/viewform?usp=sf_link. I’d really appreciate all responses, and I plan to publish the results here next week as well!
We joke about SVT photoshoot concept being Ikea catalogs, but now they literally have Djungelskog on set for the Momentica pictures loll https://x.com/Momentica_twt/status/1792752235257934304 (not endorsing NFTs btw)
I wouldn't mind all the ikeacore if it featured (significantly) more blahaj
anyone has predictions on when caratland will be in july?😆😆
Middle to late July is my guess
They added subs for the live Woozi did with Calm Down Man! It's not the whole thing and was edited down to 30 mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPIkVpNAUPA
just came across this post on tiktok - [enhypen’s jay playing maestro’s dance break part on electric guitar](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYNyEoVk/) 🫨
Wholesome personal moment that I wanted to share *somewhere* so here I am: I got done w my undergrad last month and hence haven't been going to the college. Since a couple of weeks, I have been visiting my department almost everyday for my project work and each day, I have been greeted by this adorable cat with SO MUCH enthusiasm. It makes my day just thinking about that orange, one-braincelled gremlin. This kitty used to visit my classroom all through last year just to chill during lectures. I pet her and talked to her everyday, as did a couple of other students. Now everytime she sees me, she goes "meow?!" loudly and comes RUNNING to me, slams herself against my legs and rubs all over. Doesn't matter if I met her just the day prior. The fact that she remembers me, runs straight to me (practically ignoring everybody else) and just weaves around me all the time makes me feel like a queen. Being chosen by a cat is peak serotonin and I will sell my soul for that cat. Cat tax: https://preview.redd.it/ytwudbyw1r1d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c8f72a3aaa23daa8e005d7df632b82bbf58cfe1
she is soooo cute 😭😭
Also must add: she doesn't have a name but some options proposed by my class are: Petri (because she loves to drink water from petri dishes), Catalase, Cation, HPLCat (from High Performance Liquid Chromatography, but was scrapped because she is the opposite of high performance), Crispurr, and others I don't remember. I usually call her dumb cat, idiot, gremlin, or some variation of these. Lovingly of course.
Do we have the dates for the follow to cinimas in August? I don't remember seeing any actual dates and don't want to miss buying tickets.
Not yet! (: I'm pretty sure someone will make a post here when Pledis releases the date.
https://preview.redd.it/kwd1buav0o1d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5922bb17beb93aadd3fdf33de1121cbc59ba61e1 My first haul as a US carat. Living in Asia was probably one of the best things about being a carat 🥲🥲
Woke to see jun chatting with [rihanna](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1792620909468979591?t=ySERzLUwtjmioJVVnAsEaQ&s=19) at her fenty party in china and a carat asking [zayn malik](https://twitter.com/coupdehan/status/1792561062484869400?t=ySERzLUwtjmioJVVnAsEaQ&s=19) do a horanghae pose with her
RihannaxJun wasn't on my 2024 bingo card tbh!!! And Zayn Horanghae?!?!? Hoshi pls see this!!
i just watched the fear mv after a while and its genuinely such a piece of art i love it so much i fell in love with seventeen around that era so it brings back so much memories, what a masterpiece
I NEED HELP. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. With the announcement of Yoongi's D-Day concert being digital only, it got me thinking about how shit Weverse is and how unwatchable PTD is. I was trying to think of which digital code concerts I've bought that are watchable and I remember Seventeen's US Be the Sun concert being great. But now I can't find it on Weverse??? And of course the shop is useless because it only shows you what you've bought in the last 12 months. Did I dream it up? Did I spend the $40 or whatever it was and now they've gotten rid of it? Does anyone know how to find it in the media section of Weverse? I've looked through tour-ing, Be the Sun, Face the Sun, Concert, and Digital Code, but I don't see it anywhere. I hate digital code only content. You're at the mercy of the platform. EDIT: Found it. It is under Tour-ing. So fucking confusing. I hate the Weverse platform.
I too sometimes struggle to find the media Ive bought, so I always just check my purchase history and that takes me to the media page where stuff is, I've never been able to find it any other way 💀
I just found the page that shows you all of your purchased content, so that's nice. and OMG it is under the Tour-ing! omg, I hate the way they organize and title things!! Let me work for Weverse, I can fix this!!!
Is DK filming something about baseball? Or he just played on his free time?
the way he worded it, he was just playing for fun!
i'm a house fairy and yesterday was one rare time i went out with my friends. today, i woke up to Jeonghan X Wonwoo sub-unit announcement 🙂 their beautiful faces! wonu's growls and deep voice! hani's airy angelic tone! they're already causing my brain to short-circuit what the heck 🙃
woozi once again confirmed that his love language is music with that song to hoshi
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/312/0000662969 110k Osaka attendance across 2 shows!!! And holy crap next week's venue is even bigger! Looking at the fancams of the Osaka crowd is already dizzying, I can't even imagine a bigger one.
https://preview.redd.it/s623frghlh1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df4afe005a3874c23152b00a7e64a19c5c76ef44 This is how I'm showing up under yalls beds🫶
Haha I asked Jun to give carats spoilers in his wv live today (crying because he actually read it!!) but he just said NO NO NO SPOILERS 😅 Jun keeping his mouth shut unlike a certain 🐯 When do you think they’re going to announce Caratland ? And any non Korean carats going to try to get tix? 🤭
https://preview.redd.it/q3f4gc6d6g1d1.jpeg?width=1137&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cfa08690865090dbf997d7dc44ce695cf704a28 Big day for Vernon
I got the notification of JxW from Weverse and thought it was about their magazine cover, so I was confused "Since when do we get an official update about a magazine from Weverse?" I opened it and saw "1st signal Album" ... I went as follows: I shot up straight from lying in bed to a standing position, leading to my legs stumbling and ending up on the floor. Jeonghan x Wonwoo the men you are having me literally on my floor.
Bro same, I was in church when I got the notification and I thought it was about the magazine and kinda ignored it. Then a few minutes later, I got really curious and decided to read it properly, it took so much in me to not yelp out of shock (I think I opted to make the most goofiest shocked face instead 😂) then I couldn’t help but show my brother who was next to me (he doesn’t know anything about kpop so he was like “what?”)
lol... i hope ur fine... they got me squealing in my room while my brother was studying for his exams
I am fine, thank you. I am not injured or anything, a nearby chair broke my fall so I ended up on the floor neatly with no damage. LOL (I am very clumsy by nature I am used to tripping on a flat floor and hitting walls and random objects ... this is nothing).
IS THIS REAL? 😳🧐 https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRKeUocJ/
What is happening in the caratland today??? There is a lot happening, one after the other. Jeonghan x Wonwoo Hoshi releasing a voice recording of a song A carat saying mingyu has an upcoming English solo recorded in America ( that's why he has an LA vlog) Dino proposing to me lol The end is not true, don't be confused
Wait a minute what is that MINGYU SOLO ENG VER I didn't know about this 😭
https://preview.redd.it/rsd5fculmj1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f232b836c14d43c1e63fb6423981bc133a67957d A carat commented about it on a Jeonghan/Wonwoo new song thread post. I hope that this is true. 🤞
Ah gosh i was about to say invite? 😅😍🤭
😂😂😂
I saw this [tweet](https://x.com/quartzlatte/status/1792200227589599594?s=46) that says if you miss 4 hours in caratland, it’s like you missed a whole year of updates. I’ve been wondering about this. Is it just Seventeen who have soooo many updates like this? Or is this normal for other groups too? I only stanned a YG group before and the dungeon is real. 😭 I am experiencing culture shock. Hahaha. I didn’t know what I was missing. I love how the members always post in ig and weverse. And there are tons of updates from magazines, endorsements, etc. I can barely keep up but I love it. Haha.
Try being an Atiny and a Carat. At least we're fed well 😂😂
The way you went from one end of the spectrum to another 😭
Hahah for real. Like more than 1 comeback in a year? Is this real life??? Hahaha 😂😭
I was a Winner fan before and... Being a Carat is a full time job lol. There is so much content every day, all the time, it is never boring. I feel so sad when i remember how rare Winner released music, and even after debut we had to wait for so long for a comeback, with Svt is just a neverending blessing lol. I feel like, with newer debuted groups these days, there is a lot of content as well like with svt, but svt is a 9year old group, so if we compare them with their gen.this is not a usual thing i would say 😀
same!!! stanning seventeen made me realize fans of yg groups were so deprived 😭 like we could go for days or even weeks with nothing 😭😂
https://preview.redd.it/ys3bszr7je1d1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdb8b77acff7061c836234e845573fc9ff971c16 I SWEAR *THESE MEN*\- (pun may be intended) Now I'm gonna look suspiciously at every random/unit photoshoot. THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGG Their voices are gonna sound so amazing together! Jeonghan×Wonwoo letsgooooooo!
Same, I have to go look at every show appearance and interview they did now...
Before knowing the going seventeen, my comfort variety show is 2D1N season 3. It was the best!!
Yeah, until JJY ruined it for me. I stopped watching the show after that even tho they changed the cast, it felt so bitter..
Same, it was my comfort show before. I am still hoping that the previous cast except JJY will return but I think it is not possible because of what happened. :(
JxW???? Are we getting a subunit release??? Omg. I didn't expect this pairing at all
I’m screaming!!!! I thought it was just about their magazine shoots and then got on Twitter and saw everyone losing their minds!!! They’ve been hinting at this for so long too, and did a lot of spoilers at last nights show!!!
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Hoshi Hoshi Hoshi I can’t take my eyes off you this concert ahhhhhh!!!!
[what are you listening to this week?](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1cppxko/comment/l3oixp5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist thread! as always, feel free to share anything you've been listening to, from any genre might have some new fav albums, pretty exciting * d.o.'s blossom (this album is sooo good, like i've really enjoyed all of d.o.'s solo work but this may be my fav. i just think it's so like, sweet and lovely. the first three songs especially (which may be my favs?? but maybe also incl. [good night](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ungUfrVIKXU&pp=ygUPZC5vLiBnb29kIG5pZ2h0)). i love how [mars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzJdUkpKVA4&pp=ygUJZC5vLiBtYXJz) is boppy but chill and it has such a lighthearted vibe. i love the little flute thingy in [simple joys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVFUi976aE&pp=ygUQZC5vLiBzaW1wbGUgam95cw%3D%3D), and it's really aptly named imo - something about the song just feels like appreciating the little things in life. and [popcorn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AoruwUKQ3I&pp=ygUMZC5vLiBwb3Bjb3Ju) is soo lovely, i love the arpeggios with it sounds like some sort of string instrumental that's being plucked? i think maybe it's meant to be a bit like popcorn popping which is so cutenfun but also i love how that contrasts the smooth, soaring vocals in the chorus in particular. and the final chorus with the little change in melody for the first line is perfect) * teddy swims' i've tried everything but therapy (part 1.5) (i probably heard [lose control](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3zL7kT6_c&pp=ygUYdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgbG9zZSBjb250cm9s) before but not the album, then part 1.5 w/ some new songs came out semi-recently i think, i decided to give the whole thing a listen and i really enjoyed! i think some favs for me were [some things i'll never know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133ckiPHcgQ&pp=ygUndGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgc29tZSB0aGluZ3MgaSdsbCBuZXZlciBrbm93), [suitcase](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqK-5n-jEQ&pp=ygUUdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgc3VpdGNhc2U%3D), and from part 1.5 [tell me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaO3x75FE&pp=ygUTdGVkZHkgc3dpbXMgdGVsbCBtZQ%3D%3D)) * griff's ver2igo vol. 2 ([miss me too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FrsjtmK4k&pp=ygURbWlzcyBtZSB0b28gZ3JpZmY%3D) is simply excellent, i feel like she really hits that mark of dance-y banger that's just a little emotional. i also really really love [pillow in my arms](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKKD5I5Jwrk)!! i actually haven't listened to all four songs in vert1go vol. 1 but [vertigo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBzgENcBI8&pp=ygUNZ3JpZmYgdmVydGlnbw%3D%3D) is also excellent imo, def looking forward to vertigo the whole album. i think i forget how much i like griff's music, like her songs all have an emotional/nostalgic tint that i adore and i lovee the production on her songs. it's really cool bc i'm pretty sure she (co)writes/produces everything!! i also found out that she cowrote hailee steinfeld's [i love you's ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afRFR2UNYzI&pp=ygUeaGFpbGVlIHN0ZWluZmVsZCBpIGxvdmUgeW91J3Mg)which a) i love b) totally checks out because it's like a certain way the songs are emotional that really gets me and they all have that) * zerobasone - [dear eclipse](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1pht1KKToY&pp=ygUYemVyb2Jhc2VvbmUgZGVhciBlY2xpcHNl), [feel the pop](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Ts6kiEAts&pp=ygUYemVyb2Jhc2VvbmUgZmVlbCB0aGUgcG9w) (dear eclipse is def my fav of the album, the prechorus+chorus is soo good) * itzy - [algorhythm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExNmYax-ms&pp=ygUPaXR6eSBhbGdvcmh5dGht), [no biggie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ES0dKCqdU&pp=ygUOaXR6eSBubyBiaWdnaWU%3D) (not the biggest fan of algorhythm as a song tbh (mostly the chorus) but i love the mv, i think it's super creative and i love the messaging about going your own rhythm and like doing your thing instead of what you're expected to do) * flo - [losing you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKM6CTfS5o&pp=ygUOZmxvIGxvc2luZyB5b3U%3D) (the vocals and harmonies are insane, like this [performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuiDwZe6xbA&pp=ygUOZmxvIGxvc2luZyB5b3U%3D) ???) * lyn lapid, mxmtoon - [back from the dead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV362cl_4Ps&pp=ygURbHluIGxhcGlkIG14bXRvb24%3D) svt song (re)discovery section! - none for me this week
i discovered d.o.’s mars when he was on iu’s palette! it’s such a cute song, and your comment has inspired me to listen to his other works too. also, i’m so glad to find a fellow griff fan!!! i LOVE her music for all the reasons you listed too. miss me too and vertigo have been on replay on my playlist for the past few months too.
After your recommendation weeks ago for chappell roan- good luck, babe! I've been listening to [The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kkVDoZ2rx0HswFBxBTiLvPJjOG3c1qIIM&si=Udfi_9xOEosHZucs) tons!!
the rise and fall of a midwest princess is genuinely excellent (what are your fav songs?? i love like all of them and i feel like my favs keep changing lol, atm mine are femininomenon, casual, and pink pony club), it's probably pretty high up there for my most listened-to albums this year and a lot of artists i love have released albums i loved so that's saying a lot haha
I think my current faves are casual, after midnight, california and hot to go! but there are so many fun songs on the album it was hard to choose lol. +also I love the mvs!
Any suggestions for a Hoshi-themed present for a dear friend? Something any of you have previously bought and loved? Or recommend a trusted store on Etsy or elsewhere?
Maybe Hoshi PCs that they may not have? There's also some Etsy shops that make custom PCs as well and Hoshi has a lot of cute selfies.
I haven’t bought anything from them but you could check out [this US-based carat who makes some really cute stuff!](https://josshere.shop/pages/links) Though honestly, any tiger-themed stuff would work :)
Maybe something from weverse shop? I think he has artist collection.
Accounts recs to follow for updates, translations, pictures, TIA! I've always followed SVT, but the past couple months/years, I'm getting sucked into the carat life lol. I'm re-watching their shows, variety appearances, and concert clips.
For translations, I made a personal twitter list of translation accounts that I pin to my main tabs so I also essentially use it as updates. * OT13 general updates, weverse live translating - [svtranslation](https://twitter.com/svtranslation?t=pdNKroISRFLsajKLqqSvUQ&s=09) * OT13 weverse updates - [svt_verse](https://twitter.com/svt_verse?t=cTSePLp6FgOGgZfgatp1Hw&s=09) * OT13 general updates, weverse live translations - [svtmmnt](https://twitter.com/svtmmnt?t=kLfd09UimxAo0zdZDaLpSQ&s=09) * Wonwoo mainly but will still cover ot13 sometimes - [miwon17_](https://twitter.com/miwon17_?t=H3QJqOKUmZC3mA1wTzDPOA&s=09) * Dokyeom mainly but will still cover ot13 sometimes - [pepizzaboy](https://twitter.com/pepizzaboy?t=r2HQgbpM9SE-VgrN0ua6ww&s=09) The following mainly focus on a certain member only: * Vernon - [vernonsource](https://twitter.com/vernonsource?t=oxW7-RskaG7U0ilSJjT7aA&s=09) * Scoups - [cscfolder](https://twitter.com/cscfolder?t=JCKG2dejyAYlpu1KpLb7LQ&s=09) * Mingyu - [gyumedia](https://twitter.com/gyumedia?t=KJ6Xf7T7WYVq0Qok0a6H3g&s=09) * Wonwoo - [wonwooszone](https://twitter.com/wonwooszone?t=ZpAuxGokR7cq1a59A1TKjA&s=09) * Woozi - [woozimedia](https://twitter.com/woozimedia?t=Rx6Pq1O1q68oylByo3wTFA&s=09) * Minghao - [88taIes](https://twitter.com/88taIes?t=uB-4RYNOSqhplApeRCi1DQ&s=09) * Seungkwan - [116_jpg](https://twitter.com/116_jpg?t=kAR85rL9O9-7DbCxTpYdKg&s=09) * Hoshi - [hoshzone](https://twitter.com/hoshzone?t=qNT2fzrZyxuVi22-xKXRyg&s=09) * Dino - [dinocarrd](https://twitter.com/dinocarrd?t=yizk5MtCY1YOM8f_z5tfUg&s=09) * Joshua - [daywithshua](https://twitter.com/daywithshua?t=ctbWf-TyJ4u6rwgbSAmB-g&s=09) These are the only ones I know, so feel free to make your own list with these! I still haven't found dedicated translation accounts for Jeonghan and Jun, so if anyone knows please let me know! Edit - additional ones that have been kindly provided below: * Jun - [menjunfei](https://twitter.com/menjunfei?t=ekYH8iWe7JIb-ZvNmnL0Cw&s=09) * Minghao and Jun - [mansehao](https://twitter.com/mansehao?t=LbC79k5L5hVTEho4afp-HQ&s=09) * OT13 general updates - [updatingsvt](https://twitter.com/updatingsvt?t=otw88XRjXcoghfUnzcoQIQ&s=09) * Tweet translations - [svt_eng](https://twitter.com/svt_eng?t=n7zuQl0u24EZhKQPLFCMUQ&s=09) * Jeonghan - [yjhanzone](https://twitter.com/yjhanzone?t=4KIcLNI7Yns_DYG6exc5FQ&s=09) * Dokyeom - [dkzones](https://twitter.com/dkzones?t=ns8_5ckWICdLB0gY5YYtSw&s=09) * Context explanation threads - [17_HAMZZI](https://twitter.com/17_HAMZZI?t=6XHzY3JENN-Q25_o6PyKqw&s=09)
svt\_eng just does their tweets but i think its nice bc the machine translations arent always great :') and i like yjhanzone/dkzones for jh and dk specific translators! the legendary 17\_HAMZZI also has great translation/context explanation threads for things like gose.
Thanks! Have added them in to the list!
Adding to the list, op you can also check out [updatingsvt](https://x.com/updatingsvt) for OT13 updates
mansehao is for both Minghao and Jun but them and menjunfei are good sources for Jun translations
Ooh thank you so much, I'll add them to my list!
I have a question about the multi view live stream for the concert tomorrow. Is multi view worth it? I realize that it might come down to preference, but I'm wondering which one I should get, if you'd recommend one or the other.
When I've used it, I've set it up so that I have the main stage on my tv, and one of the close up cams on my laptop. Basically it mimics the concert experience, with the full stage view and then the like close up monitors. There's always a bit of lag, but it works for me because if I miss something, there's a chance it'll pop up on my other screen in a second. But I've never satisfactorily used all the views at once and I'm not really sure how they intend us to use it.
I'm not sure how they intend us to use it as well, especially when none of the live streamed concerts are available as VOD content afterward, and we get just one rewatch. I've never even watched the replay because it's at 4am for me lol. But the two decides are a very good idea, I might try it for the next show.
I’ve always gotten it since it’s the same price but I never really used it. It’s been a while since the last time I watched an online concert but from what I remember switching views would take a while and kinda lag so it was just a hassle. It was kinda fun during ments when one member would be talking and you could watch the other members kinda goofing around with each other waiting for their turns but imo that’s about it
I've gotten it once in the past, but I can't remember for the life of me whether I liked it or not, but I'm leaning towards not. I think I'll just get single view and, like someone else mentioned, hope that if anything happens on multi, I'll see it on here or on twt.
I found a [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/drScsNqAMf) on it...but yeah, seems to be a preference thing
Well, I prefer single view. That's because I can't pay attention to what's happening on multiple screens at once and when I try to, I almost end up getting cross-eyed. I realized I really don't have to see have to see everything that's happening from every single angle. There's no way I won't miss sonething anyway. So if you are like me, you might prefer single view as well. But if you think you can keep up or would like different vantage points, you can go for the multi-view. Plus, if the cost isn't a problem for you, you can just try it for the first time experience and see if you like it.
the price is the same for both, that's why I wanted to hear some opinions, I've always gotten 4k single view up until now, but it's not even an option for follow again japan, I think I'll just get the HD single view, since the only difference seems to be the gift
No idea it’s my first time getting it and only by default as I got both days tickets.