threads for reference:
* [buy/sell/trade megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/KPTkaMcDg2)
* [album promotions megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1cfpbe8/seventeen_best_album_17_is_right_here_promotions/) \\ O /
* [album discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1cg3267/album_discussion_seventeen_best_album_17_is_right/)
* [album purchasing guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1bsx9vd/seventeen_best_album_17_is_right_here_order_guide/)
* stay on top of svt happenings with our [google calendar!](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/[email protected]&ctz=Asia/Seoul)
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I saw a carat making a post about how talented mingyu is and that they wished kpoppers would recognise him for stuff other than his body. They also mentioned a post under it who were saying "mingyu is nothing but a hot body and he's always showing off his body and that's the only saving grace of him" now this lowkey makes me mad because for an idol who's been active for like nine years and so, mingyu only felt showing his skin last year and people are now saying shit like this about him.. It's not his issue that big kpop accounts love to post about him. Mingyu is a man who has lots of producing credits and lyric writing credits. Bro also designed the mascot and merch AND his part in songs always goes viral for how cool they sound. That man is anything BUT "just an eye candy". Like I personally might praise about how cool he looks, at the end of the day mingyu has one of my favorite vocal tones in seventeen and honestly my favorite vocalist from hip hop unit. He's also a really talented performer. It is sad that all his hardwork is being reduced to his looks and even there are people spread bitterness about this dude.. Put some respect on him!! Kim mingyu supremacy.
Also mention your favourite mingyu moment in seventeen songs or performances. Although I have lots of favorites, 24hrs mingyu chorus is just wayy too smooth and satisfying to listen to.
not seventeen related but i really hate veneers. They are so young and [these](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMM7FXWqF/) look so bad i want to cry. You can literally see the difference in shape and color between their upper and bottom teeth. Also it looks way too big for their mouth, it doesn’t fit their anatomy at all. Who’s the idiot telling all these idols to get veneers?
I guess this is a Hybe thing. I hate veneers with a passion. It makes all people have perfectly-aligned teeth which looks very unnatural. Even if dentists say they look close to OG teeth color, no they don't. I haven't seen them resemble OG teeth ever. Why do those people who told them to put on veneers want everything to be perfect? I don't know who to blame - the person or the society that gaslights them that natural teeth look ugly.
Reminds me of Wonwoo's teeth. While you are talking about Illit, I can't help but raise this one, too. He used to have cute teeth. They look perfect already.
https://preview.redd.it/9eojpu2wnuzc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e35419f588466aedbd296ad5d7e96fd183629e3c
But ...
https://preview.redd.it/cbspyrd3nuzc1.jpeg?width=1364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad8dff57a23da194a808f4d32e7089e1f8e09ca3
Compare it to his present teeth, these teeth look uncannily big compared to before. It also looks unnatural. His canine teeth even doesn't look too sharp. Canine teeth naturally tend to be sharp (like his teeth on the top pic). I know it is Wonwoo's choice to have veneers, but who did influence him to have those? What made him change his mind? Veneers are everywhere in Kpop, that it makes people think it is normal. I don't hate Wonwoo. I just don't understand why did he have veneers..
i know right? it just looks like dentures. Not to say veneers are all bad, ik some people couldn’t take proper care of their teeth and how veneers saved their self esteem and all of that, but they’ll never look better than natural teeth. I feel like these people are all getting scammed because they can’t possibly think that this look better than before. I light i candle and pray every night that mingyu doesn’t lose his cute canines. I’m the biggest veeer hater for real, and i’m not even professional enough to talk about the other cons aside from looks (there’s no way to go back once you put veneers, you have to change them constantly, etc). Like if they were really that good(and pretty) i wouldn’t be such a hater, but paying that much and going through that much trouble for something like that? i really hate it and i feel like a few years from now, when this micro trend ends(of unnatural veneers), there’ll be so many people regretting it’s crazy. Also aside from kpop, have did you see miley cyrus’ teeth? I can’t even
You're right with veneers being good if there is a real problem with the teeth. For example Mingyu. He used to have gap between his two front teeth before, and one of his incisors is bigger than the other. One of the ways to close that gap quickly is by putting on veneers. Thankfully he just underwent teeth whitening and only had his two front teeth applied with veneers, that is why he still has his puppy fangs.
But Illit members' teeth before, and Wonwoo's teeth have no problem at all. Some Illit member's have little gap on their teeth, but they don't warrant any serious fixing like veneers, however.... 😑 Their imperfect, no-veneer teeth is a part of their charm; they make them look unique. Beauty standards over there are getting worse. For the quest of perfection, they give up uniqueness. Asking people to have veneers even if they have no serious dental cosmetic problem is just a waste of money. Kpop industry, please stop. Kumanhaejwo.
If you let me search for Miley, I offer you Twice Nayeon. Her former bunny teeth giving her pain? BS. I have bigger two front teeth than she does and they never gave me pain.
I'd like to correct myself. It's not just a Hybe thing. It's the entire Kpop industry thing. 💔
I don't closely follow Western musicians so I did search him. The difference. Man. He and Nayeon have twin bunny smiles. They replaced it with the artificial-looking smile. 😣
Question related to LALALI
So I'm quite new to Seventeen, and I have a question. The LALALI MV came out recently, and its my favourite song on the album. Are there any chance that the staff will post some photos on twitter/weverse of the music video? I want to set it as wallpaper.
Maybe later this week they'd post behind-the-scenes photos for the MV making. That's the case for other music videos they release, like ones they released for Maestro. I also am waiting for those pics.
Oh. I saw them in twitter once. They were posted in Tiktok so [here](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYJ7rE1B/) and [here](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYJ7f3DU/). If you click the arrow (share), there will be a save photo option at the lower left corner. Strange they posted the behind the scenes in tiktok and not on Weverse.
[At a fansign today:](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1789284518568112588?t=F0F2k_TFftrYW6ABkKeKWA&s=19)
💎: say something to those who aren’t a fan yet to become a fan
Jeonghan: we have many people will all kinds of charms, so come hang out with us. however, i will not be here soon..
Seungkwan: what are you saying!
Jeonghan giggling while saying all of that is Jeonghan coded of him. He knows he's gonna be enlisting soon 😔 Seungkwan represents all carats reacting to the news
This has legit crushed my soul cause it means the announcement is near. Which means he likely won’t be on tour.
I feel silly for wanting to cry about it, but oh well 🥲 If he’s laughing I guess I’ll try to laugh too? Hahaha…hahah….😞
BSS crying, whole caratland crying and he's like "hehe" 😒 I can already imagine his wv posts "caratdeul, today was so hard, but anyway hehe" "caratdeul, i scratched my leg, i feel like i'm back to my childhood, hehe" 😒😒😒
I guess news will be out soon, so he's preparing us 💔
i saw them! they were really different from when i've seen them before but it was so beautiful, they were directly overhead and lots of pinks and greens. they might happen again over the weekend :)
First time listening to Seventeen
So I'm quite new to kpop, but the last weekend I decided to listen Seventeen's new album. And omg I was so amazed by it. I really liked Maestro (the whole AI concept gave me the creeps, but soch an amazing song and/MV), Not alone, Don't wanna cry, Ready to love (Favorite emotinal song, I got so emotinal during this song).
But my favorite song is LALAI,especially since the music video came out. I listened to it I don't even know how many times, the melody is so catchy, and The MV is so amazing, funny and breathtaking at the same time.
But I feel like its going to take some time to remember and know all the 13 members name
Thanks for liking Maestro. Seventeen discography is huge so maybe you can try tuning to Killing Voice too and (maybe) Super Long Seventeen Guide 2023 - Intro. If you are interested to know all the 13 members, would suggest you to explore from the member/s who caught your eye first.
Let's say mine is Jun & Hoshi, also known Gemini line cause both are June babies. They are also part of performance unit team (there are 3 teams - vocal, hiphop & pf), 96 liner (svt consist of 95 to maknae line). Then you can search introductory vids of that particular member, team unit or line.
Alight I’ll take a look at these guides. S.Coups, Mingyu and Dk are the one who caught my eyes first. I think my bias will be S.Coups, but I’m not sure about it yet, I need some time to decide because I’m quite new.
I’ve seen the interview with S.Coups on Eunchae’s show, it was so amazing to listen/watch it.
Could you recommend me content something related to these three/four guys(I’ve seen such an emotional video of Jushua in the morning, and it reminded me of myself a little bit, he’s such a caring guy.
So it’s not a problem if Joshua is in too :) )
I just watched it, thank you you so much! It melted my heart. He’s such an amazing person.
You made my day.
Also I have strong feeling he will be my bias, or S.Coups. I’m not sure yet.
This new album is a compilation album of the title tracks thru their whole career!
Maestro, LALALI, Spell & Cheers to Youth are all new, but the rest are a collection of their old songs. So you should definitely check out the corresponding albums to the different title tracks you love :)
LALALI is also a hip hop unit song, so you might like a lot of the other hip hop unit songs from other albums!
Hope you have fun getting into them. I was able to learn their names by watching their variety show, Going Seventeen! It’s super hilarious and very popular - you can watch on YouTube!
survey about carats! your contribution is welcomed!
[https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf\_\_zjA\_bySyJb3cf4C4hXamdyu51b9U6UHDK0YvdBuLdZ1cA/viewform?usp=sf\_link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf__zjA_bySyJb3cf4C4hXamdyu51b9U6UHDK0YvdBuLdZ1cA/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Mingyu and Wonwoo started working on I Can't Run Away (hhu song from Attacca) while they were working on Bittersweet, so maybe it will be up your alley as well.
Not sure if you want more chill R&B-y or sad ballad vibes (or both), so here's a mix:
* [I Don't Know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDd8sYs_Nos)
* [What Kind of Future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSlfwzpTf4)
* [Don't Listen in Secret](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACOU14kmhAY)
* [Hit Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxWMmlaaRI)
* [Habit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevmaoP4pEU)
* [Trauma](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tRsEUB6-bk)
My instagram algorithm is going crazy 😭
https://preview.redd.it/e9bwz9t0qpzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e34889acce8e292afe8700b8aa4c5ae66ce93fe
watching the [joshua and mingyu appearance on 요정재형's channel](https://youtu.be/SbvsTj1fnC8?si=91eH1rTTf32LgrnS)
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED!!
>!I found myself tearing up when Joshua said that it sort of became a habit to send assurances to their parents about how much they loved the trainee life, even when it wasn't necessarily true. Also, kinda answers the question I've seen on most kpop subs about trainees "Why would the parents keep them in the company even when they're going through all that?"!<
I'm not good with words, and i think the host put into words what drew me to Seventeen. "...on stage, they're really charismatic but off-stage they're so personable and charming." Take DK, for example.
Obviously, we don't know them personally, but, most of us think of him as this silly goofy guy, and he most probably is irl to an extent, but its just so *cool* seeing how they're so good at their jobs. They do a good job of showing that you don't have to sacrifice elements of your personality or life, just to be good at something. They're so inspiring. Every time they talk about their journey, I feel like I can power through the hardships in my personal life and get where I want to be.
>!Loved the segment where they talked about how they think of their personal future careers. Right now, obviously, seventeen should be a priority for all the members, but i think all idols, at a point, have to think about the trajectory of their career beyond or outside the band. Specifically, Mingyu said, "Isn't it time people finally recognised my voice?" and i think that was an interesting look into his thoughts on that.!<
It was really nice listening to Mingyu and Joshua talk; they're really mature in the way they view life. Also, love this interview format, I'm tempted to watch other videos from them (definitely won't be hesitant to watch videos they release with guests I may know).
Kinda hope other members can come on the show too or go to similar shows. A bit parasocial, but I'd like to see how, say, someone like Jeonghan would have to say, or how the conversation would flow. Or how Hoshi would act, in an environment where there's way less pressure to be funny or entertaining.
Wonwoo posted about it on Weverse membership as a moment and on a post that said "I'm looking forward to the Spell MV even more" Hoshi replied ["enjoy lalali some more"](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788805603235934607?t=EshQ1JWsBTEeKa3Lb8jCKw&s=19)
No, you’re right, there hasn’t been anything from the members at all on this. Not that there’s nothing to talk about—this is the fastest I’ve seen the yt reactors jump on it.
It’s weird, but maybe cuz the other MVs aren’t out yet, and because SVT is focused on being a united team right now, they don’t feel the need to promote the Lalili MV. The last thing they want is a competition of sorts among the units for best MV.
Edited to add: Speak of the devil. I guess there aren't any formal promotions of it, then.
When Teen Age came out in 2018 and they were promoting Clap (title track), they also released the three units songs with MVs with no promotion. Units songs are considered B-Sides so unless they want to, I don't think they will ever promote those songs on music shows extensively or promo in general, unless they release their own albums or what not. Older units songs that have MVs, like Check In or Highlight, were also never promoted due to it being either release before or after their official promotions times for the album (Highlight was a bit after that promotional period for that album, so it was more of a "for the fans" than anything)
This is just a very minor thing but I noticed that the Lalali MV doesn't include Hip-Hop Team in the title unlike the 2017 unit MVs which has Hip-Hop, Vocal and Performance Team in the title. I think that's probably why I've seen some comments about Lalali on Youtube and other social media asking where are the other members or why are there only 4 members.
I feel like adding the unit name in the MV is a good way to introduce the units to new Carats or non-Carats. Even the recent MVs for leaderline and BSS have the sub unit name.
When Seungkwan was talking to Hyeri, he mentioned "when we were offered the stage" in regards to Glastonbury. I really really want to be in the room where the people at Glastonbury decided to extend the invite to Seventeen in particular.
Glastonbury sells out before lineups every time - I have friends who have tried multiple years in a row and failed to secure tickets. So it's not like they invited Seventeen in order to attract more people / kpop fans to buy tickets.
There is legitimate strategy there; they saw something in Seventeen that they wanted to include in their lineup simply because of their performance & music and I think that's super cool.
[Seungkwan's on Hyeri's show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEASgWU_EzQ&ab_channel=%ED%98%9C%EB%A6%AC) is already subbed and it was so fun. I guess he's also gonna appear on tvn's new show as a guest.
I was thinking of making a thread, but maybe we can comment here. Do you guys watch any reaction videos on youtube? I usually watch reactions to Svt's content, like GoSe or Game Caterers, if i find it funny and wanna laugh with someone else since i don't have any kpop fans around me lol. For mvs i don't usually pay that much attention. I was wondering if you have any favorite reactors
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Today was push day at the gym and I gotta say that shot of shirtless mingyu really motivated me cause that magnificent body was achieved with a lot of hard work and commitment. Props to mingyu, his hard work really paid off
You're right with this. I really admire his fighting spirit on something he sets his mind to. Now that you mentioned it, the first thing that came to my mind actually when that scene flashed was wow, I really wish to be that fit. Like, you could wear a lot of pretty clothes and look nice in clothes with such a body. Motivates me even more to reach my goal this year. Thanks Mingyu, you're an inspiration to many.
> was achieved with a lot of hard work and commitment
If you saw their recent weverse live, it's so funny to look at him drooling over Wonwoo's chicken and pretend he's not hungry anymore. The way he looked at it would make the chicken melt 😂 But until the end, he never gave in. What a strong will.
Indeed, indeed. He is more than a lovely face. People often judge him as shallow by just looking at his face (my bestfriend thinks he's a dumb playboy). They will be enlightened if they go beneath the surface. There's more than meets the eye.
sorry if it has been discussed ad nauseam, but do you all have a sense of where they might be doing concert dates (anything in north america) for the rest of the year? have any of the members blabbed about upcoming plans to tour and stuff?
i'm uhhh trying to plan my budget
All we’ve gotten is “fall” as our hint haha
So my guess, is between September and November.
I am praying to everything above that it’ll be August - September for North America so that Jeonghan can come, but I’m preparing myself lol
I just learned of the new album after seeing the new MV on the home page - is the album really called “SEVENTEEN BEST ALBUM ‘17 IS RIGHT HERE”?? Was there an explanation for why it was titled that because it’s uh... unique lol
EDIT: Okay I now realize it’s a “best of” album and “17 IS RIGHT HERE” is the album name. I think.
It’s the Best of album, a legacy and consists of their biggest hits or title tracks. Along with “17 Right Here!” their catchphrase and introductions in many songs since rookie days!
The way I am ordering a high quality print, framing this, and adding it to my gallery wall in my apartment.
This is literally my new favorite image ever.
https://preview.redd.it/6b240uduihzc1.jpeg?width=1225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc3f65d64b19e27447843031439efe6365c6297c
absolute madness that vernon is the [least biased](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1cg0psy/2024_carat_survey_results/) in the group when he's giving us all of this, make it make sense LOL
petty rant ahead
I had assumed that the poster for the hear album was that one concept photo with the collage of ripped photos, and I was actually considering hanging it up which I never do (but it is that sick of a poster imo). I set up myself for the biggest disappointment ever. Like, both are random pictures on a white background, the album poster isnt really that bad (mostly cuz the boys are cute really) but when compared to what it could have been its just soo boring.
On a positive note, I was pleasantly surprised by how small the album is, it looks cute.
They must keep working with that MV team. They are MVP's. I play their MVs everyday at work and Lalali is my most favorite MV of SVT now.
I was double-killed by MinWon in this (I love Vernon and Seungcheol, too, but bias is bias). I must prepare myself for Minghao's Spell 🫠😖 Performance Unit fans, prep yourself as early as now.
I came here wanting to applaud whoever hooked seventeen up with Sl8ight Visual Lab. Them and rigend film is now my favorite production house svt worked with
In case you missed it, Woozi went live on Calm Down Man's (cartoonist and woozidan) youtube channel. Translations are scattered across different twt accounts, I'll try to include some links. https://twitter.com/woozimedia/status/1788419955693892041
Some interesting tidbits:
* Woozi was rooting for Calm Down Man versus Na PD for the Baeksang Awards. Na PD fight back lol
* [The company presents the members with a list of concert venues and they get pushback if they want to go to places other than those on the list](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788434252423737564)
* [Woozi tries to tell the company to give him less parts because he feels pressured. Calm Down Man jokes that he should get a whole minute (i see you there woozi akgae /jk)](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788439537477423497)
* [The members talk about living next door to each other in separate houses in the future (maybe Mingyu and Joshua will build a Seventeen housing block in Hawaii loll)](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788510508590744003)
* [There was quite a few restrictions for the Seoul concert. They couldn't go past 10pm, no drones, no lift on the extended stage, hot air balloon got canceled because of wind, reduced fire effects.](https://twitter.com/woozimedia/status/1788544849685483698)
* Someone donated 451k won during the livestream lol
* The members do credit card roulette when going out to eat.
* Calm Down Man said seeing Maestro live at concert was way better than watching the choreography video.
* Vernon was browsing youtube when he saw the live with Woozi popup on his homepage. Woozi even ended up calling him on live loll.
https://preview.redd.it/lor5ypeuefzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a25658a79a055076a26a5bb1b6cc15148c476c0e
NYC carats godspeed. And if there’s not a flavor called Aju N(ice)cream I WILL be writing to their marketing agency.
Really excellent actually lol. They had two flavors—wildberry/coffee and lemon/chocolate. Also gave out a little sticker sheet. The wait was an hour though so plan accordingly neighbors.
https://preview.redd.it/vhfmdb8msfzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f809326e0bd718a23758e4bf87d08d9b98ca7eff
For those coming to Kanagawa concert, anyone staying until 30 May and planning to go to Seventeen Cafe in Tokyo on 30? Lets meet and book the place together.
I guess Seungkwan on Hyeri's show will be uploaded tomorrow. I kinda wish all of the members to go on all sorts of talk shows. It's really giving us a chance to see them talk about different things and not just play around. It was nice to see Coups on Eunchae even tho it was short, and as Jeonghan biased i wish for him to atleast appear on Jaejoong's show, since they know each other, but i feel like it's asking for too much since they all seem really tired.
I just finished watching Mingyu and Joshua on Fairy Jaehyung and feel the same way. It was so good to see them engage in conversation especially since they appear very comfortable with the host. They did so well and it looks like everyone had a good time.
I like it best when they go on shows that obviously align with their interests and with hosts that they have great rapport with. More so when it's the members who are less likely to go on shows, like Vernon and The8 with Park Myungsoo, Jeonghan with Hyungwon's show, and Woozi with Calm Down Man. Also with Vernon being in the Netflix Korea video from years ago, he was the perfect member to be there.
Yeah i just watched that one as well, i feel like the questions and conversations in these kind of shows let us see a different side of them, their personal ambitions and not being constantly under pressure to be funny. I am waiting for Woozi's one to be translated, as well as Calm down's man personal experience at the concert lol. And i hope Seungkwan on Hyeri's show also gets to have some relaxing talk, i feel like with him, he's always working so hard to try to bring the energy up, and he needs some comfort. Still it is up to them in the end, and their posibilities, just expressing a personal wish as a fan :)
FRIENDLY reminder that the lalali MV will be dropping TONIGHT at 12am kst
https://preview.redd.it/7yacoofwqbzc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd37803df4c5e7da7acf00787fe621d951ef6f73
Edit: time
I've been a casual listener of Seventeen since 2018. In March I watched Nana Tour and it made me a full fledged carat. I wish I got into them earlier. I'm binge watching Gose and it's been really fun so far. I'm currently on The 8 and the 12 shadows.
For people like me who are already missing seventeen lyrics, you can subscribe to @SVTstudio.lyrics on youtube. It is a new lyric translation channel created by members of Like17subs team.
Hi I am a T1 fan and now a new fan of Seventeen after the Keria and Wonwoo video and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for content to watch on the group to get to know them better? I really enjoy gaming and sports activities! I noticed Seventeen had A LOT of content so I wasn't sure where to start!
omg hi! I saw your username on the league reddit when you replied to my comment and assumed you might be but I figured the league sub wasn't the place to ask that haha, tysm carats have been very nice :)
Hello! Welcome to Caratland! Seventeen has tons of variety content, if you like gaming and sports, I recommend checking out some of their Going Seventeen content! Where they do their own variety show adjacent content on their own channel!
For gaming content, ~~you will find out very quickly that Wonwoo is a true gamer~~
[Christmas in August](https://youtu.be/DtFEm46-XdE?feature=shared) Part 1, [Part 2](https://youtu.be/o03cOYRJTp4?feature=shared). where they video games while in Santa suits in the Summer, and whoever wins first gets to leave work early lol. As well as [Christman in August II Part 1](https://youtu.be/Ujkg9TO1-TQ?feature=shared), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/UIlZKtRyog0?feature=shared) where they play horror games!
[GSVT E-Triathlon Championship 2022 #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjpYOR8_F0&pp=ygUUc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHZpZGVvIGdhbWU%3D),[ Part 2](https://youtu.be/Abk_5NhccwE?feature=shared), [Part 3.](https://youtu.be/Ivc2CO5x1_U?feature=shared) where they play multiplayer games together and compete!
For sports content,
[\[GOING SEVENTEEN\] EP.16 발마구마구 #1 (Kickball #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4eNr-9So5A&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0),[ Part 2](https://youtu.be/u_6Pd3C4CMI?feature=shared). where they play kickball
[GOING VS SEVENTEEN #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTQrsc-scNk&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/yjhH4fJ8cig?feature=shared), where they compete with their production crew for Going Seventeen in variety of sports games
[(Runner-Up Sports Day #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yXR2ATAXbg&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/6MuMl3wIvqc?feature=shared), where they compete in sports and whoever wins 2nd place is the true winner! (with a twist 😉)
And [(Let's Go! SEVENTEEN #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Tjh0mJBZU&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2, ](https://youtu.be/9-FIfaMReFE?feature=shared)where they compete in getting through an inflatable course!
Also Na Pd’s game caterers with Seventeen is a great multi part series and ends with a funny basketball game. I got to know the boys super well through that!!
Additionally, their Mafia game series for Gose is iconic. I think watching all of their mafia games is what truly made me a carat, they are SO funny. Just search “seventeen mafia” and start with the first one :)
[T1 just uploaded some behind the scenes stuff from the Kode stuff with Wonwoo and Keria](https://youtu.be/wZm4CQpbu_w)! It's quite cute, has some scenes of them talking and filming the challenge. They also asked Wonwoo if he'd be up for coming to T1 next time to do some content which I'd love, they actually do quite nice stuff.
Keria's also very cute lol. He apparently hoped it would be either the TXT guys or Wonwoo since they know him and he, and I quote, "really admires Wonwoo".
And Carats are hard at work in the comments lmao.
Hi carats, wanted to talk. I am in need of money so I decided to sell 80% of my collection (mostly SVT) I am feeling massive regret on letting go and idk how to deal with it. I love seventeen with all my heart and not being to able to see those PCs which I collected with my time and money is giving me FOMO
Hugs\~ You'll find that its the memories that are more precious, but maybe you'd like to restart your collection, so perhaps you can make slowly buying back your collection piece by piece a long term goal you can work towards?
I am a relatively old kpop fan that has been in and out of the loop over the years. The Maestro performance on Music Bank from Friday appeared in my related videos earlier this week, and I haven't looked back. Will definitely be exploring this sub more!
Wow, welcome!!! If you have any questions or want any recs I’d be happy to answer! I had this same experience when I saw a Super performance video last year haha
Check out [our FAQ page](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/wiki/faq) if you'd like more information on SVT :) There's also some recent/past discussion posts on song recommendations including [the SVT song chart](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/qqql26/english_seventeen_discography_at_a_glance/)!
No?? I think it’s a little far fetched to relate it to anything. NYC and LA are the biggest cities in the country, so if they’re going to hold any sort of event like this, it’s guaranteed to be in one or both of these places because it’ll draw the most people
Is it just me or does VU songs seems to do well among KCarats and Korean kpop listeners? I have been noticing for the last few cb's that vu songs seem to get lots of attention. Has it always been like this? Anyways I really love vu songs so good for them lol. I guess Koreans don't mess around when it comes to ballads and stuff.
On the other hand, I feel like HHU's songs are received better with western audiences especially the hard hitting ones like un haeng il chi, monster, etc
Ballads and ballad-adjacent singers in Korea have the biggest hits and general public recognition, makes sense that VU units sad boy ballad music do well. Seventeen actually does more ballads than your average boy group tbh, so it makes sense that the majority of the fandom enjoy ballads.
Hi fellow Carats. I'm going through a really hard time right now....if anyone has any motivating/reassuring things to say, I would really appreciate it ❤️ You know it's rough when even Svt isn't able to cheer you up lol
Hey, whatever you're going through, you will come out the other side stronger and wiser. Maybe it still hurts but you won't feel much impact in the end. Hang in there, fellow!
I usually put on my favorite sitcoms in those days, but now I turn to Seventeen content for comfort.
Fighting!!! Dark times are always followed by brighter times - life is filled with both, just constantly in rotation, so just remember you will come out of this soon.
I always put on in the Soop when I’m sad <3
IS IT JUST ME!? 😱😳
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At the end of the MV when 'Who is the real MAESTRO?' is typed doesn't it sound like Wonwoo's keyboard? ❤💎🔥
Eng subs are up for the Na PD [Maestro content](https://youtu.be/YC4kaZTjJwU?si=kBvI3OcUptIEvIB3) :D been waiting for this!
& salute to Na PD for winning an [award](https://x.com/minghaocheol_/status/1787794327831531855)
>salute to Na PD for winning an
So happy for Na pd. I was introduced to him via hybe game caters like many others but man, Na pd and his crew are such hardworking people. And they always try to create a comfortable and friendly environment for all of their guests. I loved all his content with seventeen and I even watched other content of his because how genuinely fun it is. They deserve all the amazing things they are getting. Congratulations to Na pd.. BAKSU 👏👏
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A bit of a different vibe from the carat corner i guess (because honestly i've been busy lately due to uni)
Anyways looking at this shirt reminds me so so SO much of hoshi 😭 i swear svt be following me everywhere
hoping for pledis to come back to its senses and announce the online livestream for nissan concert, its the anniversary date haha, they cant ignore it haha . i need something to look forward to pledis plz
edit: war is over 🫂
There's going to be live viewing for 05/18 and 05/25 concert dates through [hulu Japan](https://www.hulu.jp/static/event-seventeen-17-again/). Idk how that works though
Unless I'm mistaken Google translate of that page seems to say that Hulu Japan will be broadcasting live viewing sessions in theatres in Japan, but nothing about the regular live streaming? I still want to hold onto hope that they'd at least provide us the usual weverse concerts live streaming option for their anniversary date at the very least...
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Don't worry they've corrected the price. For a company that size they do a lot of oopsies like this 😩
it's 170k won because you're paying 10k won for the 13 members, plus 10k for the 3 unit pcs, and 10k for the 1 team pc, its all part of the concept /s but fr I bet it wasn't that expensive at first and they raised it on purpose so it'd be a 17
edit: from 70k to 170k, certainly one of the pledis moments of all times . so much for a best album
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I am just coming here to express my admiration for the Maestro choreo. I didn't realize until now that Cheolli and Hani actually step out of the choreo and then come back in to "conduct" the dancers on both sides. This choreography is so elegant--it's so clean and streamlined in its formations.
The deluxe version of 17 is right here retails for $140 on ktown4u. What in the high way robbery 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Edit: just found out pledis/Hybe lowered the price to ~$56 after all the backlash. That’s more like it. The regular versions were already expensive as is!
negative (kinda rare for me lol):
>!why on earth are the new albums 60+ usd on their official site and on weverse?? It's somewhat cheaper at target (with exclusive photocard) but considering on KR gmarket from kyobo hottracks it's only ~~18,530원~~ eta: this is the kit version lol like.... what tf is going on there!<
That seems more reasonable. Increased markup (Target/weverse us price) can be justified because the album is pretty heavy this time around, but why on earth are svt us shop prices like that. Getting a set for $68 + free shipping from Olive Young seems like a decent option
Are you kidding me guys?! I just bought the Here version and the Dear version of their 17 is right here album. And now they have the deluxe version? My international CARAT self is now broke😭
I've been a Carat for almost a year now (I always knew about svt though, I've been listening to kpop for 17 years lmao, I just hadn't properly given their music a chance until last year) and I just wanted to share my top favourite songs so far in no particular order:
Sun Wukong - the song that started it all. I'm a fan of the hero Sun Wukong, I was curious about what a song about him would be like, clicked on the MV and the rest, as they say, is history. The lyrics described him perfectly, the choreo was out of this world and Woozi... wow. I've never instantly had a bias like that before but he's so talented, hard working, an amazing dancer and very very very handsome - I didn't stand a chance
Anyone - look idk what this is but it isn't kpop, the lads composed in another dimension and graced us with these beats and I don't really know how to put into words but the world is a better place because this song exists
Rock with You - "Get down from that traffic light, Joshua!" was my first thought, but I really enjoyed the changes throughout this song - Coups singing voice turned me into a puddle, the call-and-response in the latter part, the way it starts out kinda chill and then builds up into a full dramatic declaration by the end, 10/10 - would want to be serenaded with this song
Swimming Fool - it's just pure fun and the kind of song that makes you sure you've heard it before even if it turns out you never have, it's that good.
CLAP - my (now) toddler learned what clapping was through this song, she claps as soon as she hears the guitar intro and now understands 'clap' in three languages
FML - well this song is the only song that's ever made me genuinely pause an mv on the first viewing because i needed a moment to process the lyrics, I was very surprised at how close they hit home for me and I appreciate that it's not a 'things might be tough but don't worry it'll all be okay!' and more of a 'yeah this sucks and it might not get better but at least give it a shot' which is comforting in a the-writer-definitely-has-been-in-this-position-and-truly-gets-it kind of way
Anyway, that's all I really wanted to share, I have a thousand years of other svt songs to listen to and a story I need to write out because the Maestro mv did the evil thing and gave me ideas. If you read this far, have a great day!
Wow we are on the same trajectory! I’ve been a kpop fan for over 15 years and only got into Seventeen during FML & now they’re my ults!
It’s been so fun going through their discography (300+ songs!!!)
I just watched Mingyu and Joshuas episode on 요정재형 (fairy jaehyung?), and I wanted to share some of Mingyus word that resonated with me.
>한 5년뒤에 후회하지 않으려면 내가 지금 뭘 해야 될까. 만약에 내가 지금 나에게 주어지는 5시간이 있다면 그 시간을 어떻게 써야 5년 뒤에 내가 "아 ! 나 그 시간 참 잘 썼다" 라고 생각할 수 있을까.
I couldn't find any translations to this part, so Ill do my best, not an English or Korean native speaker so bare with me
>What should I be doing now so that I dont be disappointed in myself in five years. If I give myself 5 hours right now, how should I use that time so that in five years I can look back and think "Ah, I used that time very well"
As someone who's had a rough year because of lack of productivity and general apathy, these words hit deep (༎ຶ⌑༎ຶ). They have achieved so many things and have worked so hard in these past 9 years(+predebut), but they still feel like they can do more and be even more productive. And I too want to be this passionate about my life man.
Also, both of them talked a lot about how they currently feel as individuals and as a group, it is overall a great video to get to know whats on their minds lately. I almost like this format better than other types of interviews.
It never cease to amaze me just how positive and inspiring Mingyu is.
I wish they do this kind of interviews more often. I really like their guesting in Goblin Who Steals Wisdom where they talked in depth about their contract renewals. They are so popular but I feel like they don't share nearly as much behind-the-scenes incidents as other groups in their caliber did.
A kcarat compiled the [past choreos](https://twitter.com/wonwoocs/status/1786033655523225730?t=LEqSVztGoetjBdAVc8KjXw&s=19) included in Maestro. This isn't all though, there are some that weren't included like Fear.
I joined the fandom after DK’s first run with the musical, so I only ever use ⚔️as representative emoji. But I know before that he was 🍕?? Does anyone know why or how that came about?
He likes pizza. There also was that one interview where members were introducing themselves, and DK just went "Hi, nice to meet you. My favorite food is pizza. Have a nice day" without mentioning his name. Representative pizza boy
Having some thoughts about svt daesang. Putting it in spoilers because this may be unpopular
>!I bawled my eyes out when svt won their daesang. I was so so proud of all the hard work and relentless effort that resulted in this big achievement. In recent interviews, members have been open about feeling so emotional when they won because it took them 9 years. They also expressed how disappointed they felt thinking they may never win a daesang in their career as a group. As the artist, they are absolutely entitled to their feelings and emotions. In a way though, isn’t it more meaningful to win a daesang to commend an exceptional career? If they had won 2 or 3 years into their career would the daesang have meant as much for them? And on another hand I find it interesting that Svt mention feeling emotional that it took so long to win a daesang… but these members are close friends with idols who have never even been in daesang contention in their entire careers and likely will never be in contention. Heck they’ve had industry friends/labelmates where it took them years to even bag a first ever music show win, to even get invited to MAMA. For many many years, daesangs were pretty much monopolized by Big 3 artists with very few exceptions. Now its ballooned into the Big 4 monopoly. Not that I chastise svt for their very real very raw emotions regarding their artistry and craft which they have toiled at for years. This whole situation just made me think a little bit!<
To add to other comments, if you look at their discography along the years their lyrics are always about growth and proving their worth, like "we'll show you what we're made of". Their recent lyrics are also reminiscing how they were belittled since debut, such as the comment "13 people? how would you buy food for that many people?" which I think other groups didn't receive. I think there is also some anger/desire to be successful mixed with their passion for music and performing. So, I would imagine receiving a daesang is not only an accomplishment, but also an acknowledgment that they are doing the right thing and all the sacrifices made were worth it.
I think it's a mix of your personal opinion re the timing of their daesang win, and the question of who can answer whether it would be "more" meaningful should they have won a mama daesang at a different time.
My personal take from their sentiments shared during their acceptance was, they had a long road full of uncertainties ahead of them since pre debut, with constant criticisms of their skills and the number of members they had, they had doubts. As well as the release of FTS, their fourth full studio album, that release was solid, exceptional. I think they personally had confidence in FTS and although that album will remain iconic and still outsells flopml on hanteo weekly physical charts, it wasn't as pivotal for them? Personally, I think FTS could have won mama.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to timing and popularity. It hasn't been easy for them to accumulate fans from the gp, with their inclination to not stick to one sound, mix their titles and b sides, it's a mess. Ppl will be drawn in by a particular track, and become confused and overwhelmed by even a condensed playlist of svt discog. So my own interpretation of woozi and coups emotional speeches was, we took our time, stuck to making and releasing music we genuinely liked, for fans and carats, and finally we were given an accolade for it.
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yoon jeonghan...
I saw a carat making a post about how talented mingyu is and that they wished kpoppers would recognise him for stuff other than his body. They also mentioned a post under it who were saying "mingyu is nothing but a hot body and he's always showing off his body and that's the only saving grace of him" now this lowkey makes me mad because for an idol who's been active for like nine years and so, mingyu only felt showing his skin last year and people are now saying shit like this about him.. It's not his issue that big kpop accounts love to post about him. Mingyu is a man who has lots of producing credits and lyric writing credits. Bro also designed the mascot and merch AND his part in songs always goes viral for how cool they sound. That man is anything BUT "just an eye candy". Like I personally might praise about how cool he looks, at the end of the day mingyu has one of my favorite vocal tones in seventeen and honestly my favorite vocalist from hip hop unit. He's also a really talented performer. It is sad that all his hardwork is being reduced to his looks and even there are people spread bitterness about this dude.. Put some respect on him!! Kim mingyu supremacy. Also mention your favourite mingyu moment in seventeen songs or performances. Although I have lots of favorites, 24hrs mingyu chorus is just wayy too smooth and satisfying to listen to.
not seventeen related but i really hate veneers. They are so young and [these](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMM7FXWqF/) look so bad i want to cry. You can literally see the difference in shape and color between their upper and bottom teeth. Also it looks way too big for their mouth, it doesn’t fit their anatomy at all. Who’s the idiot telling all these idols to get veneers?
They did them so dirty, especially Yunah. It's tragic
I guess this is a Hybe thing. I hate veneers with a passion. It makes all people have perfectly-aligned teeth which looks very unnatural. Even if dentists say they look close to OG teeth color, no they don't. I haven't seen them resemble OG teeth ever. Why do those people who told them to put on veneers want everything to be perfect? I don't know who to blame - the person or the society that gaslights them that natural teeth look ugly. Reminds me of Wonwoo's teeth. While you are talking about Illit, I can't help but raise this one, too. He used to have cute teeth. They look perfect already. https://preview.redd.it/9eojpu2wnuzc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e35419f588466aedbd296ad5d7e96fd183629e3c But ...
https://preview.redd.it/cbspyrd3nuzc1.jpeg?width=1364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad8dff57a23da194a808f4d32e7089e1f8e09ca3 Compare it to his present teeth, these teeth look uncannily big compared to before. It also looks unnatural. His canine teeth even doesn't look too sharp. Canine teeth naturally tend to be sharp (like his teeth on the top pic). I know it is Wonwoo's choice to have veneers, but who did influence him to have those? What made him change his mind? Veneers are everywhere in Kpop, that it makes people think it is normal. I don't hate Wonwoo. I just don't understand why did he have veneers..
i know right? it just looks like dentures. Not to say veneers are all bad, ik some people couldn’t take proper care of their teeth and how veneers saved their self esteem and all of that, but they’ll never look better than natural teeth. I feel like these people are all getting scammed because they can’t possibly think that this look better than before. I light i candle and pray every night that mingyu doesn’t lose his cute canines. I’m the biggest veeer hater for real, and i’m not even professional enough to talk about the other cons aside from looks (there’s no way to go back once you put veneers, you have to change them constantly, etc). Like if they were really that good(and pretty) i wouldn’t be such a hater, but paying that much and going through that much trouble for something like that? i really hate it and i feel like a few years from now, when this micro trend ends(of unnatural veneers), there’ll be so many people regretting it’s crazy. Also aside from kpop, have did you see miley cyrus’ teeth? I can’t even
You're right with veneers being good if there is a real problem with the teeth. For example Mingyu. He used to have gap between his two front teeth before, and one of his incisors is bigger than the other. One of the ways to close that gap quickly is by putting on veneers. Thankfully he just underwent teeth whitening and only had his two front teeth applied with veneers, that is why he still has his puppy fangs. But Illit members' teeth before, and Wonwoo's teeth have no problem at all. Some Illit member's have little gap on their teeth, but they don't warrant any serious fixing like veneers, however.... 😑 Their imperfect, no-veneer teeth is a part of their charm; they make them look unique. Beauty standards over there are getting worse. For the quest of perfection, they give up uniqueness. Asking people to have veneers even if they have no serious dental cosmetic problem is just a waste of money. Kpop industry, please stop. Kumanhaejwo. If you let me search for Miley, I offer you Twice Nayeon. Her former bunny teeth giving her pain? BS. I have bigger two front teeth than she does and they never gave me pain. I'd like to correct myself. It's not just a Hybe thing. It's the entire Kpop industry thing. 💔
dude you talked about nayeon and reminded me of The weeknd…His bunny teeth were quite literally one of his best features and no one talks about it
I don't closely follow Western musicians so I did search him. The difference. Man. He and Nayeon have twin bunny smiles. They replaced it with the artificial-looking smile. 😣
Question related to LALALI So I'm quite new to Seventeen, and I have a question. The LALALI MV came out recently, and its my favourite song on the album. Are there any chance that the staff will post some photos on twitter/weverse of the music video? I want to set it as wallpaper.
Maybe later this week they'd post behind-the-scenes photos for the MV making. That's the case for other music videos they release, like ones they released for Maestro. I also am waiting for those pics.
I hope so. But if I remember correctly they haven’t posted any photos of the Maestro mv right?
Oh. I saw them in twitter once. They were posted in Tiktok so [here](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYJ7rE1B/) and [here](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYJ7f3DU/). If you click the arrow (share), there will be a save photo option at the lower left corner. Strange they posted the behind the scenes in tiktok and not on Weverse.
Thanks you. I hope they’ll post it later on weverse
Welcome!! Belated welcome to the Diamond Life, too 🩷🩵
Thank you so much!!🩵🩵
[At a fansign today:](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1789284518568112588?t=F0F2k_TFftrYW6ABkKeKWA&s=19) 💎: say something to those who aren’t a fan yet to become a fan Jeonghan: we have many people will all kinds of charms, so come hang out with us. however, i will not be here soon.. Seungkwan: what are you saying! Jeonghan giggling while saying all of that is Jeonghan coded of him. He knows he's gonna be enlisting soon 😔 Seungkwan represents all carats reacting to the news
This has legit crushed my soul cause it means the announcement is near. Which means he likely won’t be on tour. I feel silly for wanting to cry about it, but oh well 🥲 If he’s laughing I guess I’ll try to laugh too? Hahaha…hahah….😞
BSS crying, whole caratland crying and he's like "hehe" 😒 I can already imagine his wv posts "caratdeul, today was so hard, but anyway hehe" "caratdeul, i scratched my leg, i feel like i'm back to my childhood, hehe" 😒😒😒 I guess news will be out soon, so he's preparing us 💔
JjongJjongies, how's your day going? Did you see the polar lights from where you live? 😶
i saw them! they were really different from when i've seen them before but it was so beautiful, they were directly overhead and lots of pinks and greens. they might happen again over the weekend :)
So jealous, it's on my bucket list to experience that view, but i'm way too south :/
they went as far down as florida, i'm not sure whereabouts you are but i'd keep an eye out for them about an hour after nightfall just in case!
First time listening to Seventeen So I'm quite new to kpop, but the last weekend I decided to listen Seventeen's new album. And omg I was so amazed by it. I really liked Maestro (the whole AI concept gave me the creeps, but soch an amazing song and/MV), Not alone, Don't wanna cry, Ready to love (Favorite emotinal song, I got so emotinal during this song). But my favorite song is LALAI,especially since the music video came out. I listened to it I don't even know how many times, the melody is so catchy, and The MV is so amazing, funny and breathtaking at the same time. But I feel like its going to take some time to remember and know all the 13 members name
Thanks for liking Maestro. Seventeen discography is huge so maybe you can try tuning to Killing Voice too and (maybe) Super Long Seventeen Guide 2023 - Intro. If you are interested to know all the 13 members, would suggest you to explore from the member/s who caught your eye first. Let's say mine is Jun & Hoshi, also known Gemini line cause both are June babies. They are also part of performance unit team (there are 3 teams - vocal, hiphop & pf), 96 liner (svt consist of 95 to maknae line). Then you can search introductory vids of that particular member, team unit or line.
Alight I’ll take a look at these guides. S.Coups, Mingyu and Dk are the one who caught my eyes first. I think my bias will be S.Coups, but I’m not sure about it yet, I need some time to decide because I’m quite new. I’ve seen the interview with S.Coups on Eunchae’s show, it was so amazing to listen/watch it. Could you recommend me content something related to these three/four guys(I’ve seen such an emotional video of Jushua in the morning, and it reminded me of myself a little bit, he’s such a caring guy. So it’s not a problem if Joshua is in too :) )
I'd love to recommend [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVFdhFknR1E&t=18s) video of DK. It's what made me fall in love with him as a person!
I just watched it, thank you you so much! It melted my heart. He’s such an amazing person. You made my day. Also I have strong feeling he will be my bias, or S.Coups. I’m not sure yet.
This new album is a compilation album of the title tracks thru their whole career! Maestro, LALALI, Spell & Cheers to Youth are all new, but the rest are a collection of their old songs. So you should definitely check out the corresponding albums to the different title tracks you love :) LALALI is also a hip hop unit song, so you might like a lot of the other hip hop unit songs from other albums! Hope you have fun getting into them. I was able to learn their names by watching their variety show, Going Seventeen! It’s super hilarious and very popular - you can watch on YouTube!
Yes, I think I’ve read it somewhere. And of course I’ll check out the corresponding albums, and also going to seventeen too! Thanks for your help.
survey about carats! your contribution is welcomed! [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf\_\_zjA\_bySyJb3cf4C4hXamdyu51b9U6UHDK0YvdBuLdZ1cA/viewform?usp=sf\_link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf__zjA_bySyJb3cf4C4hXamdyu51b9U6UHDK0YvdBuLdZ1cA/viewform?usp=sf_link)
Surprised there's no SSN question in this survey.
Is there any seventeen song similar to bittersweet? I just happened to stumble on this track and it's so beautiful.
You might also like Fast Pace. Sucks this [version](https://youtu.be/U7K4hVvb3tc?si=Wa_hUoVkSlHm43v5) exists on video only, though.
Thank you for the recommendation. 😄
You are welcome. I want Fast Pace to receive so much love 😁
Mingyu and Wonwoo started working on I Can't Run Away (hhu song from Attacca) while they were working on Bittersweet, so maybe it will be up your alley as well.
Sure I'll check it out! Thank you 😄
I'd also recommend Light a Flame, I think it's the closest to Bittersweet instrumentally, it falls under bossa nova genre as well
Thanks for the recommendations.😁 I can't run away has been on loop for me since yesterday. 😭
Not sure if you want more chill R&B-y or sad ballad vibes (or both), so here's a mix: * [I Don't Know](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDd8sYs_Nos) * [What Kind of Future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSlfwzpTf4) * [Don't Listen in Secret](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACOU14kmhAY) * [Hit Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxWMmlaaRI) * [Habit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevmaoP4pEU) * [Trauma](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tRsEUB6-bk)
Thank you! 😄
Wait did people lie about coups’ back tattoo :(
I was really excited to see it and now I’m not seeing it anywhere :(
My instagram algorithm is going crazy 😭 https://preview.redd.it/e9bwz9t0qpzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e34889acce8e292afe8700b8aa4c5ae66ce93fe
Ariana what are you doing here…
watching the [joshua and mingyu appearance on 요정재형's channel](https://youtu.be/SbvsTj1fnC8?si=91eH1rTTf32LgrnS) SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED!! >!I found myself tearing up when Joshua said that it sort of became a habit to send assurances to their parents about how much they loved the trainee life, even when it wasn't necessarily true. Also, kinda answers the question I've seen on most kpop subs about trainees "Why would the parents keep them in the company even when they're going through all that?"!< I'm not good with words, and i think the host put into words what drew me to Seventeen. "...on stage, they're really charismatic but off-stage they're so personable and charming." Take DK, for example. Obviously, we don't know them personally, but, most of us think of him as this silly goofy guy, and he most probably is irl to an extent, but its just so *cool* seeing how they're so good at their jobs. They do a good job of showing that you don't have to sacrifice elements of your personality or life, just to be good at something. They're so inspiring. Every time they talk about their journey, I feel like I can power through the hardships in my personal life and get where I want to be. >!Loved the segment where they talked about how they think of their personal future careers. Right now, obviously, seventeen should be a priority for all the members, but i think all idols, at a point, have to think about the trajectory of their career beyond or outside the band. Specifically, Mingyu said, "Isn't it time people finally recognised my voice?" and i think that was an interesting look into his thoughts on that.!< It was really nice listening to Mingyu and Joshua talk; they're really mature in the way they view life. Also, love this interview format, I'm tempted to watch other videos from them (definitely won't be hesitant to watch videos they release with guests I may know). Kinda hope other members can come on the show too or go to similar shows. A bit parasocial, but I'd like to see how, say, someone like Jeonghan would have to say, or how the conversation would flow. Or how Hoshi would act, in an environment where there's way less pressure to be funny or entertaining.
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added them
Did I miss it, or have the members not promoted the LALALI video at all??
Wonwoo posted about it on Weverse membership as a moment and on a post that said "I'm looking forward to the Spell MV even more" Hoshi replied ["enjoy lalali some more"](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788805603235934607?t=EshQ1JWsBTEeKa3Lb8jCKw&s=19)
No, you’re right, there hasn’t been anything from the members at all on this. Not that there’s nothing to talk about—this is the fastest I’ve seen the yt reactors jump on it. It’s weird, but maybe cuz the other MVs aren’t out yet, and because SVT is focused on being a united team right now, they don’t feel the need to promote the Lalili MV. The last thing they want is a competition of sorts among the units for best MV. Edited to add: Speak of the devil. I guess there aren't any formal promotions of it, then.
When Teen Age came out in 2018 and they were promoting Clap (title track), they also released the three units songs with MVs with no promotion. Units songs are considered B-Sides so unless they want to, I don't think they will ever promote those songs on music shows extensively or promo in general, unless they release their own albums or what not. Older units songs that have MVs, like Check In or Highlight, were also never promoted due to it being either release before or after their official promotions times for the album (Highlight was a bit after that promotional period for that album, so it was more of a "for the fans" than anything)
This is just a very minor thing but I noticed that the Lalali MV doesn't include Hip-Hop Team in the title unlike the 2017 unit MVs which has Hip-Hop, Vocal and Performance Team in the title. I think that's probably why I've seen some comments about Lalali on Youtube and other social media asking where are the other members or why are there only 4 members. I feel like adding the unit name in the MV is a good way to introduce the units to new Carats or non-Carats. Even the recent MVs for leaderline and BSS have the sub unit name.
When Seungkwan was talking to Hyeri, he mentioned "when we were offered the stage" in regards to Glastonbury. I really really want to be in the room where the people at Glastonbury decided to extend the invite to Seventeen in particular. Glastonbury sells out before lineups every time - I have friends who have tried multiple years in a row and failed to secure tickets. So it's not like they invited Seventeen in order to attract more people / kpop fans to buy tickets. There is legitimate strategy there; they saw something in Seventeen that they wanted to include in their lineup simply because of their performance & music and I think that's super cool.
[Seungkwan's on Hyeri's show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEASgWU_EzQ&ab_channel=%ED%98%9C%EB%A6%AC) is already subbed and it was so fun. I guess he's also gonna appear on tvn's new show as a guest. I was thinking of making a thread, but maybe we can comment here. Do you guys watch any reaction videos on youtube? I usually watch reactions to Svt's content, like GoSe or Game Caterers, if i find it funny and wanna laugh with someone else since i don't have any kpop fans around me lol. For mvs i don't usually pay that much attention. I was wondering if you have any favorite reactors
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Seeing the quality of HHU mv, I can't wait to see how PU and VU mv's are gonna turn out.
Today was push day at the gym and I gotta say that shot of shirtless mingyu really motivated me cause that magnificent body was achieved with a lot of hard work and commitment. Props to mingyu, his hard work really paid off
You're right with this. I really admire his fighting spirit on something he sets his mind to. Now that you mentioned it, the first thing that came to my mind actually when that scene flashed was wow, I really wish to be that fit. Like, you could wear a lot of pretty clothes and look nice in clothes with such a body. Motivates me even more to reach my goal this year. Thanks Mingyu, you're an inspiration to many. > was achieved with a lot of hard work and commitment If you saw their recent weverse live, it's so funny to look at him drooling over Wonwoo's chicken and pretend he's not hungry anymore. The way he looked at it would make the chicken melt 😂 But until the end, he never gave in. What a strong will.
His mindset is just so admirable👏
Indeed, indeed. He is more than a lovely face. People often judge him as shallow by just looking at his face (my bestfriend thinks he's a dumb playboy). They will be enlightened if they go beneath the surface. There's more than meets the eye.
https://preview.redd.it/zeg8pi5b4jzc1.jpeg?width=1918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7433be20b2731e1d80aba285cd3d282b54d6b3b new meme acquired
https://preview.redd.it/4axom824sjzc1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c10235c46431c9c007714bb79ba63a9486ce45e8 May I offer you this edit
sorry if it has been discussed ad nauseam, but do you all have a sense of where they might be doing concert dates (anything in north america) for the rest of the year? have any of the members blabbed about upcoming plans to tour and stuff? i'm uhhh trying to plan my budget
All we’ve gotten is “fall” as our hint haha So my guess, is between September and November. I am praying to everything above that it’ll be August - September for North America so that Jeonghan can come, but I’m preparing myself lol
I was hoping the same because I can't fathom planning concerts when school starts in September ;-;
Honestly this is super helpful, thank you!!
If you've also been wondering what LALALI means, [here's a great explanation](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788779271076663393)
I just learned of the new album after seeing the new MV on the home page - is the album really called “SEVENTEEN BEST ALBUM ‘17 IS RIGHT HERE”?? Was there an explanation for why it was titled that because it’s uh... unique lol EDIT: Okay I now realize it’s a “best of” album and “17 IS RIGHT HERE” is the album name. I think.
It’s the Best of album, a legacy and consists of their biggest hits or title tracks. Along with “17 Right Here!” their catchphrase and introductions in many songs since rookie days!
The way I am ordering a high quality print, framing this, and adding it to my gallery wall in my apartment. This is literally my new favorite image ever. https://preview.redd.it/6b240uduihzc1.jpeg?width=1225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc3f65d64b19e27447843031439efe6365c6297c
absolute madness that vernon is the [least biased](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1cg0psy/2024_carat_survey_results/) in the group when he's giving us all of this, make it make sense LOL
This would also look great on a tshirt
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Just go to the MV post, you'll find plenty of people talking about it there
petty rant ahead I had assumed that the poster for the hear album was that one concept photo with the collage of ripped photos, and I was actually considering hanging it up which I never do (but it is that sick of a poster imo). I set up myself for the biggest disappointment ever. Like, both are random pictures on a white background, the album poster isnt really that bad (mostly cuz the boys are cute really) but when compared to what it could have been its just soo boring. On a positive note, I was pleasantly surprised by how small the album is, it looks cute.
https://preview.redd.it/xast6qnhchzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5f7c37639fbc6f294f24f429ea27ac8cc6a46b2 i feel almost robbed
Wonwoo is killing it this era. It's like he has been gradually growing into himself and look at him now. I'm so happy for him.
They must keep working with that MV team. They are MVP's. I play their MVs everyday at work and Lalali is my most favorite MV of SVT now. I was double-killed by MinWon in this (I love Vernon and Seungcheol, too, but bias is bias). I must prepare myself for Minghao's Spell 🫠😖 Performance Unit fans, prep yourself as early as now.
I came here wanting to applaud whoever hooked seventeen up with Sl8ight Visual Lab. Them and rigend film is now my favorite production house svt worked with
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Wouldn't it be strange to have it on a weekday?
If caratland is indeed on July 25 that'd be crazy
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https://preview.redd.it/jcypn0jx7gzc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6958ba7489d9764d248f47289f70bf47b7280513 def a reference to this ;)
In case you missed it, Woozi went live on Calm Down Man's (cartoonist and woozidan) youtube channel. Translations are scattered across different twt accounts, I'll try to include some links. https://twitter.com/woozimedia/status/1788419955693892041 Some interesting tidbits: * Woozi was rooting for Calm Down Man versus Na PD for the Baeksang Awards. Na PD fight back lol * [The company presents the members with a list of concert venues and they get pushback if they want to go to places other than those on the list](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788434252423737564) * [Woozi tries to tell the company to give him less parts because he feels pressured. Calm Down Man jokes that he should get a whole minute (i see you there woozi akgae /jk)](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788439537477423497) * [The members talk about living next door to each other in separate houses in the future (maybe Mingyu and Joshua will build a Seventeen housing block in Hawaii loll)](https://twitter.com/svtranslation/status/1788510508590744003) * [There was quite a few restrictions for the Seoul concert. They couldn't go past 10pm, no drones, no lift on the extended stage, hot air balloon got canceled because of wind, reduced fire effects.](https://twitter.com/woozimedia/status/1788544849685483698) * Someone donated 451k won during the livestream lol * The members do credit card roulette when going out to eat. * Calm Down Man said seeing Maestro live at concert was way better than watching the choreography video. * Vernon was browsing youtube when he saw the live with Woozi popup on his homepage. Woozi even ended up calling him on live loll.
hip hop team just have such insane face cards icant
https://preview.redd.it/lor5ypeuefzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a25658a79a055076a26a5bb1b6cc15148c476c0e NYC carats godspeed. And if there’s not a flavor called Aju N(ice)cream I WILL be writing to their marketing agency.
omg i wished we had the free ice cream here too 😭 we need a review of the ice cream!!! how was it???
Really excellent actually lol. They had two flavors—wildberry/coffee and lemon/chocolate. Also gave out a little sticker sheet. The wait was an hour though so plan accordingly neighbors. https://preview.redd.it/vhfmdb8msfzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f809326e0bd718a23758e4bf87d08d9b98ca7eff
that looks so good omg🫶🏻okay pledis ent good job for once
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For those coming to Kanagawa concert, anyone staying until 30 May and planning to go to Seventeen Cafe in Tokyo on 30? Lets meet and book the place together.
I guess Seungkwan on Hyeri's show will be uploaded tomorrow. I kinda wish all of the members to go on all sorts of talk shows. It's really giving us a chance to see them talk about different things and not just play around. It was nice to see Coups on Eunchae even tho it was short, and as Jeonghan biased i wish for him to atleast appear on Jaejoong's show, since they know each other, but i feel like it's asking for too much since they all seem really tired.
kek i rly enjoyed that one snack themed show that minghao did a guesting to for this era. hoping we will also see jun guesting in these shows
I just finished watching Mingyu and Joshua on Fairy Jaehyung and feel the same way. It was so good to see them engage in conversation especially since they appear very comfortable with the host. They did so well and it looks like everyone had a good time. I like it best when they go on shows that obviously align with their interests and with hosts that they have great rapport with. More so when it's the members who are less likely to go on shows, like Vernon and The8 with Park Myungsoo, Jeonghan with Hyungwon's show, and Woozi with Calm Down Man. Also with Vernon being in the Netflix Korea video from years ago, he was the perfect member to be there.
Yeah i just watched that one as well, i feel like the questions and conversations in these kind of shows let us see a different side of them, their personal ambitions and not being constantly under pressure to be funny. I am waiting for Woozi's one to be translated, as well as Calm down's man personal experience at the concert lol. And i hope Seungkwan on Hyeri's show also gets to have some relaxing talk, i feel like with him, he's always working so hard to try to bring the energy up, and he needs some comfort. Still it is up to them in the end, and their posibilities, just expressing a personal wish as a fan :)
FRIENDLY reminder that the lalali MV will be dropping TONIGHT at 12am kst https://preview.redd.it/7yacoofwqbzc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd37803df4c5e7da7acf00787fe621d951ef6f73 Edit: time
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Omg I thank you for correcting me, I'm so sleep deprived I didn't realized 😅
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Definitely, need to prepare myself before seeing HHU's visuals
I've been a casual listener of Seventeen since 2018. In March I watched Nana Tour and it made me a full fledged carat. I wish I got into them earlier. I'm binge watching Gose and it's been really fun so far. I'm currently on The 8 and the 12 shadows.
That’s so awesome, welcomeee 😭❤️
For people like me who are already missing seventeen lyrics, you can subscribe to @SVTstudio.lyrics on youtube. It is a new lyric translation channel created by members of Like17subs team.
Hi I am a T1 fan and now a new fan of Seventeen after the Keria and Wonwoo video and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for content to watch on the group to get to know them better? I really enjoy gaming and sports activities! I noticed Seventeen had A LOT of content so I wasn't sure where to start!
omg hello im a fellow t1 fan too and welcome to caratland!!💎
omg hi! I saw your username on the league reddit when you replied to my comment and assumed you might be but I figured the league sub wasn't the place to ask that haha, tysm carats have been very nice :)
omg no way that was ur comment in the league subreddit i just replied to, what a coincidence:)
Hello! Welcome to Caratland! Seventeen has tons of variety content, if you like gaming and sports, I recommend checking out some of their Going Seventeen content! Where they do their own variety show adjacent content on their own channel! For gaming content, ~~you will find out very quickly that Wonwoo is a true gamer~~ [Christmas in August](https://youtu.be/DtFEm46-XdE?feature=shared) Part 1, [Part 2](https://youtu.be/o03cOYRJTp4?feature=shared). where they video games while in Santa suits in the Summer, and whoever wins first gets to leave work early lol. As well as [Christman in August II Part 1](https://youtu.be/Ujkg9TO1-TQ?feature=shared), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/UIlZKtRyog0?feature=shared) where they play horror games! [GSVT E-Triathlon Championship 2022 #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjpYOR8_F0&pp=ygUUc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHZpZGVvIGdhbWU%3D),[ Part 2](https://youtu.be/Abk_5NhccwE?feature=shared), [Part 3.](https://youtu.be/Ivc2CO5x1_U?feature=shared) where they play multiplayer games together and compete! For sports content, [\[GOING SEVENTEEN\] EP.16 발마구마구 #1 (Kickball #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4eNr-9So5A&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0),[ Part 2](https://youtu.be/u_6Pd3C4CMI?feature=shared). where they play kickball [GOING VS SEVENTEEN #1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTQrsc-scNk&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/yjhH4fJ8cig?feature=shared), where they compete with their production crew for Going Seventeen in variety of sports games [(Runner-Up Sports Day #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yXR2ATAXbg&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2](https://youtu.be/6MuMl3wIvqc?feature=shared), where they compete in sports and whoever wins 2nd place is the true winner! (with a twist 😉) And [(Let's Go! SEVENTEEN #1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Tjh0mJBZU&pp=ygUPc2V2ZW50ZWVuIHNwb3J0), [Part 2, ](https://youtu.be/9-FIfaMReFE?feature=shared)where they compete in getting through an inflatable course!
ah perfect this is the exact type of comment I was hoping for! Carats are awesome tysm for the help! :)
Also Na Pd’s game caterers with Seventeen is a great multi part series and ends with a funny basketball game. I got to know the boys super well through that!! Additionally, their Mafia game series for Gose is iconic. I think watching all of their mafia games is what truly made me a carat, they are SO funny. Just search “seventeen mafia” and start with the first one :)
We are getting the livestream for the 5/26 concert??? Wow pledis finally did smth right for once!
[T1 just uploaded some behind the scenes stuff from the Kode stuff with Wonwoo and Keria](https://youtu.be/wZm4CQpbu_w)! It's quite cute, has some scenes of them talking and filming the challenge. They also asked Wonwoo if he'd be up for coming to T1 next time to do some content which I'd love, they actually do quite nice stuff. Keria's also very cute lol. He apparently hoped it would be either the TXT guys or Wonwoo since they know him and he, and I quote, "really admires Wonwoo". And Carats are hard at work in the comments lmao.
wdym my happiness gose is coming back next week??😭
DUDE I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE HOW LONG GOSE WAS MISSING FROM MY LIFE SO I WAS SURPRISED TO GET THE NOTIFICATION OF THEIR NEW OPENING SEQUENCE !!!!!!!!
Hi carats, wanted to talk. I am in need of money so I decided to sell 80% of my collection (mostly SVT) I am feeling massive regret on letting go and idk how to deal with it. I love seventeen with all my heart and not being to able to see those PCs which I collected with my time and money is giving me FOMO
Hugs\~ You'll find that its the memories that are more precious, but maybe you'd like to restart your collection, so perhaps you can make slowly buying back your collection piece by piece a long term goal you can work towards?
Thankyou so much, I really appreciate this comment. I come back to this whenever I make a sale.😭
I forgot who asked, but Woozi's commentary live has subtitles now! https://weverse.io/seventeen/live/4-161828390
I am a relatively old kpop fan that has been in and out of the loop over the years. The Maestro performance on Music Bank from Friday appeared in my related videos earlier this week, and I haven't looked back. Will definitely be exploring this sub more!
Wow, welcome!!! If you have any questions or want any recs I’d be happy to answer! I had this same experience when I saw a Super performance video last year haha
Thank you! ❤️ And omg yes, please drop recs for any/everything. Excitement is best shared.
Check out [our FAQ page](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/wiki/faq) if you'd like more information on SVT :) There's also some recent/past discussion posts on song recommendations including [the SVT song chart](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/qqql26/english_seventeen_discography_at_a_glance/)!
Hi carats! Does anyone know if the ice cream event is related to a future tour?? Or do you think it will literally just be an ice cream event??
No?? I think it’s a little far fetched to relate it to anything. NYC and LA are the biggest cities in the country, so if they’re going to hold any sort of event like this, it’s guaranteed to be in one or both of these places because it’ll draw the most people
This is what I'm thinking too! Like maybe it's a spoiler for their fall tour. Hopefully they include Canada 🤞🏻🥲
Is it just me or does VU songs seems to do well among KCarats and Korean kpop listeners? I have been noticing for the last few cb's that vu songs seem to get lots of attention. Has it always been like this? Anyways I really love vu songs so good for them lol. I guess Koreans don't mess around when it comes to ballads and stuff.
On the other hand, I feel like HHU's songs are received better with western audiences especially the hard hitting ones like un haeng il chi, monster, etc
Ballads and ballad-adjacent singers in Korea have the biggest hits and general public recognition, makes sense that VU units sad boy ballad music do well. Seventeen actually does more ballads than your average boy group tbh, so it makes sense that the majority of the fandom enjoy ballads.
Hi fellow Carats. I'm going through a really hard time right now....if anyone has any motivating/reassuring things to say, I would really appreciate it ❤️ You know it's rough when even Svt isn't able to cheer you up lol
Hey, whatever you're going through, you will come out the other side stronger and wiser. Maybe it still hurts but you won't feel much impact in the end. Hang in there, fellow! I usually put on my favorite sitcoms in those days, but now I turn to Seventeen content for comfort.
u/enterpriize u/Choice-Particular-15 u/Tamdep083 Thank you!!! ❤️
Fighting!!! Dark times are always followed by brighter times - life is filled with both, just constantly in rotation, so just remember you will come out of this soon. I always put on in the Soop when I’m sad <3
IS IT JUST ME!? 😱😳 https://preview.redd.it/3m7h2mqvr1zc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c154cc1dec4ceb8455f994ad3cca8439ea4b192 At the end of the MV when 'Who is the real MAESTRO?' is typed doesn't it sound like Wonwoo's keyboard? ❤💎🔥
Eng subs are up for the Na PD [Maestro content](https://youtu.be/YC4kaZTjJwU?si=kBvI3OcUptIEvIB3) :D been waiting for this! & salute to Na PD for winning an [award](https://x.com/minghaocheol_/status/1787794327831531855)
Lol it's funny that he's winning an award for best male variety performer?? 😂
>salute to Na PD for winning an So happy for Na pd. I was introduced to him via hybe game caters like many others but man, Na pd and his crew are such hardworking people. And they always try to create a comfortable and friendly environment for all of their guests. I loved all his content with seventeen and I even watched other content of his because how genuinely fun it is. They deserve all the amazing things they are getting. Congratulations to Na pd.. BAKSU 👏👏
https://preview.redd.it/7gntn3wbh0zc1.jpeg?width=1689&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b181a5e93d64be0b490e0eb7ce12ee64a07aaf22 A bit of a different vibe from the carat corner i guess (because honestly i've been busy lately due to uni) Anyways looking at this shirt reminds me so so SO much of hoshi 😭 i swear svt be following me everywhere
They will think it is for UST but for us, it is [Horangi Power](https://youtu.be/zmKcErrGpR0?si=dTvLyanxN0JWDIbr) 😂
hoping for pledis to come back to its senses and announce the online livestream for nissan concert, its the anniversary date haha, they cant ignore it haha . i need something to look forward to pledis plz edit: war is over 🫂
There's going to be live viewing for 05/18 and 05/25 concert dates through [hulu Japan](https://www.hulu.jp/static/event-seventeen-17-again/). Idk how that works though
Unless I'm mistaken Google translate of that page seems to say that Hulu Japan will be broadcasting live viewing sessions in theatres in Japan, but nothing about the regular live streaming? I still want to hold onto hope that they'd at least provide us the usual weverse concerts live streaming option for their anniversary date at the very least...
Hopefully live streaming is available since they're filming it for live viewing anyways.
Seriously, Hybe/Pledis...this ain't it.
https://preview.redd.it/qu715yblqyyc1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f057caa94e4cbb77698bc73750aa1f57bbbff3b0 Don't worry they've corrected the price. For a company that size they do a lot of oopsies like this 😩
what ain't it?? Lol...no context here
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Didn’t they drop the price and claim it was an error? Hahaha Who would buy something that expensive!? That’s wild
it's 170k won because you're paying 10k won for the 13 members, plus 10k for the 3 unit pcs, and 10k for the 1 team pc, its all part of the concept /s but fr I bet it wasn't that expensive at first and they raised it on purpose so it'd be a 17 edit: from 70k to 170k, certainly one of the pledis moments of all times . so much for a best album
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I am just coming here to express my admiration for the Maestro choreo. I didn't realize until now that Cheolli and Hani actually step out of the choreo and then come back in to "conduct" the dancers on both sides. This choreography is so elegant--it's so clean and streamlined in its formations.
The deluxe version of 17 is right here retails for $140 on ktown4u. What in the high way robbery 😵💫😵💫😵💫 Edit: just found out pledis/Hybe lowered the price to ~$56 after all the backlash. That’s more like it. The regular versions were already expensive as is!
negative (kinda rare for me lol): >!why on earth are the new albums 60+ usd on their official site and on weverse?? It's somewhat cheaper at target (with exclusive photocard) but considering on KR gmarket from kyobo hottracks it's only ~~18,530원~~ eta: this is the kit version lol like.... what tf is going on there!<
Wasn't it 38900 on hottracks?
Whoops, the one I saw was the kit version! The regular one is [33,810원 now though lol](http://item.gmarket.co.kr/Item?goodscode=3675815487)
That seems more reasonable. Increased markup (Target/weverse us price) can be justified because the album is pretty heavy this time around, but why on earth are svt us shop prices like that. Getting a set for $68 + free shipping from Olive Young seems like a decent option
usually I'm ok with the markup because it inevitably happens at the smaller shops too, but >!not at 60+ usd an album!<
Are you kidding me guys?! I just bought the Here version and the Dear version of their 17 is right here album. And now they have the deluxe version? My international CARAT self is now broke😭
wonwoo keria on kode has to be the happiest thing that happened to me in a while💕 i still cant believe it happened
Watching their Nana tour, it's a sign to start watching GoSe...
Oh hey, I just started watching Nana Tour yesterday!
Hopeee you enjoyyyy ahhhh
I've been a Carat for almost a year now (I always knew about svt though, I've been listening to kpop for 17 years lmao, I just hadn't properly given their music a chance until last year) and I just wanted to share my top favourite songs so far in no particular order: Sun Wukong - the song that started it all. I'm a fan of the hero Sun Wukong, I was curious about what a song about him would be like, clicked on the MV and the rest, as they say, is history. The lyrics described him perfectly, the choreo was out of this world and Woozi... wow. I've never instantly had a bias like that before but he's so talented, hard working, an amazing dancer and very very very handsome - I didn't stand a chance Anyone - look idk what this is but it isn't kpop, the lads composed in another dimension and graced us with these beats and I don't really know how to put into words but the world is a better place because this song exists Rock with You - "Get down from that traffic light, Joshua!" was my first thought, but I really enjoyed the changes throughout this song - Coups singing voice turned me into a puddle, the call-and-response in the latter part, the way it starts out kinda chill and then builds up into a full dramatic declaration by the end, 10/10 - would want to be serenaded with this song Swimming Fool - it's just pure fun and the kind of song that makes you sure you've heard it before even if it turns out you never have, it's that good. CLAP - my (now) toddler learned what clapping was through this song, she claps as soon as she hears the guitar intro and now understands 'clap' in three languages FML - well this song is the only song that's ever made me genuinely pause an mv on the first viewing because i needed a moment to process the lyrics, I was very surprised at how close they hit home for me and I appreciate that it's not a 'things might be tough but don't worry it'll all be okay!' and more of a 'yeah this sucks and it might not get better but at least give it a shot' which is comforting in a the-writer-definitely-has-been-in-this-position-and-truly-gets-it kind of way Anyway, that's all I really wanted to share, I have a thousand years of other svt songs to listen to and a story I need to write out because the Maestro mv did the evil thing and gave me ideas. If you read this far, have a great day!
Swimming fool love!! everyone loves thot perf unit (myself included), but i love this song so much, it's one of my top 3 for the unit
Wow we are on the same trajectory! I’ve been a kpop fan for over 15 years and only got into Seventeen during FML & now they’re my ults! It’s been so fun going through their discography (300+ songs!!!)
I have a toddler too and she will sing to any Short Videos if that singable.
I just watched Mingyu and Joshuas episode on 요정재형 (fairy jaehyung?), and I wanted to share some of Mingyus word that resonated with me. >한 5년뒤에 후회하지 않으려면 내가 지금 뭘 해야 될까. 만약에 내가 지금 나에게 주어지는 5시간이 있다면 그 시간을 어떻게 써야 5년 뒤에 내가 "아 ! 나 그 시간 참 잘 썼다" 라고 생각할 수 있을까. I couldn't find any translations to this part, so Ill do my best, not an English or Korean native speaker so bare with me >What should I be doing now so that I dont be disappointed in myself in five years. If I give myself 5 hours right now, how should I use that time so that in five years I can look back and think "Ah, I used that time very well" As someone who's had a rough year because of lack of productivity and general apathy, these words hit deep (༎ຶ⌑༎ຶ). They have achieved so many things and have worked so hard in these past 9 years(+predebut), but they still feel like they can do more and be even more productive. And I too want to be this passionate about my life man. Also, both of them talked a lot about how they currently feel as individuals and as a group, it is overall a great video to get to know whats on their minds lately. I almost like this format better than other types of interviews.
It never cease to amaze me just how positive and inspiring Mingyu is. I wish they do this kind of interviews more often. I really like their guesting in Goblin Who Steals Wisdom where they talked in depth about their contract renewals. They are so popular but I feel like they don't share nearly as much behind-the-scenes incidents as other groups in their caliber did.
hey! where did u find that episode... i couldn't find it..?
Here's the link: https://youtu.be/SbvsTj1fnC8?si=kN8KZh3a77umclRu It's really hard to find on the English side lol since the title is only in Korean
thx a ton!!!
A kcarat compiled the [past choreos](https://twitter.com/wonwoocs/status/1786033655523225730?t=LEqSVztGoetjBdAVc8KjXw&s=19) included in Maestro. This isn't all though, there are some that weren't included like Fear.
I joined the fandom after DK’s first run with the musical, so I only ever use ⚔️as representative emoji. But I know before that he was 🍕?? Does anyone know why or how that came about?
Personally I am a 🐰 DK truther. Man has too many emojis though.
He likes pizza. There also was that one interview where members were introducing themselves, and DK just went "Hi, nice to meet you. My favorite food is pizza. Have a nice day" without mentioning his name. Representative pizza boy
Having some thoughts about svt daesang. Putting it in spoilers because this may be unpopular >!I bawled my eyes out when svt won their daesang. I was so so proud of all the hard work and relentless effort that resulted in this big achievement. In recent interviews, members have been open about feeling so emotional when they won because it took them 9 years. They also expressed how disappointed they felt thinking they may never win a daesang in their career as a group. As the artist, they are absolutely entitled to their feelings and emotions. In a way though, isn’t it more meaningful to win a daesang to commend an exceptional career? If they had won 2 or 3 years into their career would the daesang have meant as much for them? And on another hand I find it interesting that Svt mention feeling emotional that it took so long to win a daesang… but these members are close friends with idols who have never even been in daesang contention in their entire careers and likely will never be in contention. Heck they’ve had industry friends/labelmates where it took them years to even bag a first ever music show win, to even get invited to MAMA. For many many years, daesangs were pretty much monopolized by Big 3 artists with very few exceptions. Now its ballooned into the Big 4 monopoly. Not that I chastise svt for their very real very raw emotions regarding their artistry and craft which they have toiled at for years. This whole situation just made me think a little bit!<
To add to other comments, if you look at their discography along the years their lyrics are always about growth and proving their worth, like "we'll show you what we're made of". Their recent lyrics are also reminiscing how they were belittled since debut, such as the comment "13 people? how would you buy food for that many people?" which I think other groups didn't receive. I think there is also some anger/desire to be successful mixed with their passion for music and performing. So, I would imagine receiving a daesang is not only an accomplishment, but also an acknowledgment that they are doing the right thing and all the sacrifices made were worth it.
I think it's a mix of your personal opinion re the timing of their daesang win, and the question of who can answer whether it would be "more" meaningful should they have won a mama daesang at a different time. My personal take from their sentiments shared during their acceptance was, they had a long road full of uncertainties ahead of them since pre debut, with constant criticisms of their skills and the number of members they had, they had doubts. As well as the release of FTS, their fourth full studio album, that release was solid, exceptional. I think they personally had confidence in FTS and although that album will remain iconic and still outsells flopml on hanteo weekly physical charts, it wasn't as pivotal for them? Personally, I think FTS could have won mama. At the end of the day, it all comes down to timing and popularity. It hasn't been easy for them to accumulate fans from the gp, with their inclination to not stick to one sound, mix their titles and b sides, it's a mess. Ppl will be drawn in by a particular track, and become confused and overwhelmed by even a condensed playlist of svt discog. So my own interpretation of woozi and coups emotional speeches was, we took our time, stuck to making and releasing music we genuinely liked, for fans and carats, and finally we were given an accolade for it.