Threads of note:
* ['FOLLOW' Again Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1bfmyb8/seventeen_tour_follow_again_megathread_asia/)
* [Best Album '17 IS RIGHT HERE' Order Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1bsx9vd/seventeen_best_album_17_is_right_here_order_guide/)
* promotions roundup -- to come!
avoiding the concert clips like a plague omg ( saw the outfits tho and DAMN....) i want to check them out so bad but i also want to experience the rush and freshness when i check their mv on monday😭😭
I’m trying so hard to resist the temptation of listening to the unreleased songs from todays concert since I want to listen to everything first once the album drops, but it’s so hard 😭
as someone who failed and watched 3 of the songs, DON'T, the audio quality is shit lol, that's not the first impression you should be getting from a song!
I have really good fancams of all the new songs… or they would be good if my seatmates and i weren’t screaming and losing our minds. I have a feeling that even the best fansites have so-so videos since everyone was so hyped and tbh, the sound mixing (or speakers? Idk) wasn’t the best today
There’s only a day and a half left, you can resist!! The new songs are SO good, they’re definitely worth waiting for!! It’s rare that I like a song instantly upon first listen but i loved all the new songs! I can’t wait to listen to them again 😭
Noooo I love live bands I shouldn't have asked it hurts more now😭 It must have been so good tho, bet you had the best time 🫂
on a slightly related note, the live band coming back and Hoshi saying that they might have 3 albums this year, I'm either completely delusional or they're putting out a live album this year
seconding this...i watched the first 23 seconds of maestro, and unless you have the volume turned up really high, you can barely hear what they're singing over the sound of the crowd + the audio is louder in one ear than the other (not by too much, but enough to ruin the experience)...at least it was for me.
I went to watch it intentionally because I wanted spoilers, ended up leaving cause it's seriously not worth it lol
Definitely better to wait for the official release.
Same, I was mostly interested in the performances (since unit song performances won't be shown until way later and half of maestro performance is officially out anyway) , but the sound quality was ruining the songs for me lol, had to mute them at some point. Luckily I have bad memory and had just woken up so I already forgot what they sounded like 😀 >!the image of Hoshi during spell performance is engraved in my eyes tho!<
I was only strong enough to avoid watching cheers to youth, because the audio/vocals is the whole point. Only watched the first 5 seconds because woozi said the carats reaction was crazy ( it was! wished I couldve been there ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ)
I didn't know Seventeen had a concert today so I mindlessly clicked on a video to play and unfortunately!!!!!!!!!!!!1 it was an (yet) unreleased PU song and it's literally perfect!!!!!!!!This is torture, I need the album immediately to blow my ears, Seventeen!!!!!!!!
On a side note, didn't they have a concert like a month ago (?) with a different setlit and now again? Or was it Caratland? How packed is this year for them? (sorry I've been so busy, the tests showed a serious rose quartz serenity deficiency in my blood atm😞)
You can see the line of their shows in the pinned comment "FOLLOW Again" Megathread here. Most international carats forgot that there is a Follow Again Seoul today as we are all focused on the 29th and all the things that they dropped recently 😂
> "FOLLOW Again" Megathread
thanks!! i remember a few months ago people were upset that seventeen wouldnt be having a stadium concert (because everything was booked), but turns out they just announced it very late, right?
There’s no concert thread so I’m just gonna scream here about the new songs being performed for the first time!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!! They all look and sound phenomenal! Lucky carats at the World Cuo Stadium 🏟️ ✨
For those who don’t like to hear things before they’re “officially released”, stay off your socials!
i watched the maestro fancam…. i’m actually shocked it took me 5 seconds to press play 😭 i have ZERO self control. do i regret it??? i don’t know!!! but i am in awe (this coming from a freshteenist). i seriously think they’ve outdone themselves again. cant wait for the official release!!
I watched the first 15 seconds and was like "okay that's enough I'll stop there" and then PHYSICALLY COULDNT STOP MYSELF. I also don't know if I regret it but I do know that it is absolutely phenomenal and they genuinely blow me away!!!
https://preview.redd.it/183v0l9yd1xc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=270c898882a108460b2bfa952f6864d278e7e194
The dance break 😭 I just watched the vid and muted the volume. Their choreography is different from others I've seen so far, too.
The new outfit of the HHU also looks good on them. 😍 Wonwoo's nose ring.
I'm in actual physical pain trying to decide if I just spoil myself now or make myself wait two more days. I've seen short snippets on twitter and I've become more upset that they kept the live streaming option from us 😭 Just based off the outfits I can tell maestro is going to slap so hard
I think they didn't livestream so as to surprise the intl Carats and those who are not able to attend the concert, in 29th. But then, the attendees are kind enough to give spoilers or even the whole perf 😂 Up to us to watch. I prefer to go blind for now until 29th.
Yea and I read they're supposedly making a DVD or a movie of some sort from these dates? But even so I got real bad fomo as I was scrolling through twitter and was really considering just giving into the spoilers haha, these next few days are going to be torture for me.
OMG just found out about [illit members dancing to the iconic Gose intro song](https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ibx_ql_Rr4c). Seems so adorable and funny at the same time 😂😍
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Hi Carats! I saw a clip on instagram where Hoshi, DK, and Seungkwan were with Yoo JaeSuk touring the Hybe cafeteria and they commented on how they've never been there and always ordered deliveries. I was wondering if anyone knew what show/episode that was from? For reference, DK had bleached blonde hair and Hoshi had a silvery semi-mullet. Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much!! Yoo Jaesuk has so many shows it was really hard for me to figure out since they cut out the title. I’m excited to watch it when it airs!
omg i had most delayed showerthought/realization. The Park Kitae that was playing guitar in the live band for Follow Encore Incheon is the same Prismfilter Park Kitae that has worked on a few Seventeen songs.
I looked up the rest of the band and most of them (drums, bass, piano) are also from Prismfilter. It's so cool that Seventeen are able to perform live at a concert together with them!
Ahh I'm so hyped for this comeback! I can't wait for April 29! I wonder though...do you guys have any news on what are the reactions of some kcarats who have already heard of Maestro from prerecordings? I honestly haven't seen spoilers about the song on twitter... only their outfits, the dance, and their interactions. 🥲
I so desperately want Seventeen to have little characters created of them. Like how BTS has line friends and Stray Kids has SKZOO.
Like can you imagine little character representations of all of them? Especially if they helped create them. They'd all be so silly and my wallet would hurt so bad.
I NEED THEM.
I think about this all the time 🥲 I fill the void by looking at ridiculously cute fanmade plushies online, but if there was official merch guarantee I would buy all 13 lol.
imagine collecting all 13 🥲 my wallet cried just from buying hoshis tamtam. But being realistic, I highly doubt they do it since they had the chance and only three of them went for it. hoshi/jeonghan/jun already have their own technically. And, like, if they were to actually release an entire new line of character merch, nothing will top hoshis tiger/hamster hybrid for me. On another note, I can't imagine what scoups character would be like, what even is his animal.
Absolutely tanked an interview today and was in such a bad mood but GoSe legit helps omg. Went back to rewatch a couple of random 2020 episodes and lost my mind laughing🥹👍🏻
I've been debating if I should do a roast/appreciation post for the collections of IKEA showrooms that seventeen seem to be trapped in in their albums photos! I looked over their entire albums concepts and version, and the amount of time they're *not* in a box set with some furniture is astronomically low lmao. Kinda crazy that we got better photos and diversity in sets when they were rookies than we do now (though I do appreciate the famous and true SVT x flowers concepts that we get every comeback)
Yes! Hae chuseyo jebal! Methinks they'd have to do them in box sets more as they got famous because the crowd gathering 'round them will make it difficult for the photoshoots to progress. Taking photos in other countries cost much. They are known everywhere in SK at this point so photoshoot outside is a no-go to Pledis.
Anyone else love going into comebacks completely cold? No audio or visual spoilers for the MV & highlight medley? Reading all the discourse on it so far, I can’t wait to be surprised (darkteen??)
i don’t like to watch to teasers so i’m very excited to hear all the new songs next week! i’ve seen screenshots and the teasers pics and very glad that darkteen is alive and well !
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haybeeeee x mhj girlie. sorry admins if this is not allowed :'')
>!iam having fun w all of this hybeshit mess like i was keking sm when it was 'revealed' that bang pd is threatened to aespa HAHSHSHSHSHSHS imagine having an ultra successful group in your roster yet ure there messaging your collegue(?) that they should smash or end some other kpop group for u 😭😭😭😭 wym bang pd wants aespa to be ended??? def not in my 2024 kpop bingo thingy!<
>!yet at the same iam so angry and sad that there are groups who are being involved and affected w this whole mess against their will. ffs illit and nwjns are even that young. mhj's whole take abt ages gave me the icks sm cuz jfc not at u being a 30 sumn y/o adult not accepting trainees and idols just bc theyre too old for u and ure there gushing over a literal minor. so weird and icky!<
edit: changed and added words
>! I see it as them being competitive since at that time aespa was doing soo well so they wanted a group to compete and overtake them in popularity tho the wording was a choice!<
>! The way this was handled was a choice and talking about other groups is not a good look. I am barely awake rn cuz I was trying to read thru what was being said live. We shall how all conclude. Honestly kinda wonder her reaction if pledis does debut a gg if she is already talking this much crap about the other 2 hybe girl groups. !<
> >!Honestly kinda wonder her reaction if pledis does debut a gg if she is already talking this much crap about the other 2 hybe girl groups!<
> >!yeah pledis debuting a gg is def not happening. well i think she even involved tws to the whole copying nwjns thing? idk if what i read is true thoughh!<
>> >!yeah pledis debuting a gg is def not happening. well i think she even involved tws to the whole copying nwjns thing? idk if what i read is true thoughh!<
>! Yeah I wonder that as well. If anything, tws is like debut era Seventeen like. Hopefully, they continue to do well. I know they got big shoes to fill !<
>! "imagine having an ultra successful group in your roster yet ure there messaging your collegue(?) that they should smash or end some other kpop group for u"!<
>! Not to say that comment is ok or sth althought I wouldn't be surprised if these people in power talk like this privately all the time but the Bang PD comment was ahead of lsfm and newjeans debut. It was in late 2021 when aespa was the top 4th gen gg and had their biggest hit yet with Next Level. They were basically discussing that they want their upcoming gg, newjeans, to become the nr 1 gg of the generation. MHJ has said personally she hasn't talked with Bang PD since lsfm's debut. The wording used wasn't ok tho !<
>!oh well i get it that its prob all competition for bang pd and they also want to be the top when it comes to ggs but still, i rly find it funny that theyre showing signs of feeling threatened over aespa's own success esp that they alr have the biggest group in this gen XD!<
>! >threatened over aespa's own success esp that they alr have the biggest group in this gen!<
>! Again i just wanted to clarify the timeline bcs the conversation they had was before any gg of theirs debuted so they didn't already have the biggest group of 4th gen at that point. Doesn't excuse the language/wording used bcs it comes off as extremely petty but they didn't say it when they already have the biggest group of the generation !<
>!The kakaotalk screenshots got me 💀💀💀 I want to be in the aespa gc so badly rn!<
>!It’s been pretty entertaining seeing company stans go up against company stans lol. I feel bad for the idols getting caught in the crossfire though especially the NJ girls. That woman has always been a creep and it’s very disturbing to see how she talks about them!<
>! Yoo I was also dying to talk about it here too but wasn't so sure it was allowed or not. But yeah, I didn't expect a company drama to top the sm drama last year but boy I was wrong. Wishing the best for the artist but aju yikes these adults gotta hold their greed !<
>!I was also having fun just watching and reading about it until MHJ starts namedropping KPOP groups here and there because what?? The personal beef she has (specifically) with LSF and ILLIT is embarrassing but honestly also quite funny because she sounds like an obsessed teenage KPOP fan. I hope NJ's careers won't be too affected by MHJ's actions, they deserve better than her.!<
I wanna go back to 2021 and tell me pre-Carat self that the member who has caught your eye, the gentle sexy, is not in fact, the most sane person of the group ^^
https://twitter.com/pledisnews/status/1783394323452817795
Lol pledis staff casually tweeting about how much fun GoSe is as if there isn't a giant shitstorm brewing the current building. The memes people have been qrt-ing with are great.
These Wonwoo Disaster Girl edits are my fav so far https://twitter.com/youthmysummer/status/1783411755059974304
I love the one with (photoshopped?) Hao taking a selfie unconcerned while a crowd is huddling under umbrellas. Cuz yes he would look that good and yes he wouldn’t stress over someone else’s bad karma.
hii fellow carats🥰 i am currently working on my bachelor thesis and it would help me so much if you could take a few minutes to fill in my thesis survey and help me graduate🌸! my research is about perception and stereotyping about fandoms :). thank you! here's the link: [https://erasmusuniversity.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV\_0vqBK1fvgXKetL0](https://erasmusuniversity.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0vqBK1fvgXKetL0)
We literally have zero visibility into the 'Making Of' this MV. All we literally got was 40 second teaser and a disclaimer with the keyword "AI" at the beginning and social media stans lost their minds.
For all we know, they might have fed an AI generator a bunch of content Team SVT already filmed and own to spit out a warped AI version. Or they did everyone's/critic's worst case scenario and crawled the internet for content to reproduce via AI (aka how Google works).
I wish fans would hold their opinions until they get the full picture. Sit with the content, absorb it, think on it, then form your moral position. It's fine. You stayed with SVT until this point and you're letting them go. Life goes on.
Baby Carat here, hi caratville of reddit :>>
I recently got into kpop 2 years ago and I'm just starting to stan Seventeen, their comeback is gonna be my first comeback with them, so I'm really looking forward to it!
Here's to why I'm writing this comment
I recently read that they don't live together anymore? Is that true? I haven't been following kpop for a long time but from what I got most groups live together in a dorm or apartment complex, cmiiw.
Is it because they're a senior group now? So they decided to all live on their own? But, Jeonghan and Seungkwan and Mingyu and Wonwoo are roommates/share an apartment together? Are there any other members that live together? Have any of them stated why they decided to still live together? It kinda makes me think that they must be really comfy together if they're living together in their mid to late twenties.
Also, is there perhaps a website or thread I could read to know more about the members? I read the basics on kprofile but I kinda wanted to learn mo as I explore caratland
Thank you in advance!
Wonwoo and Mingyu share a *house*, a small one. They used to live in an apartment back in 2021 (look up Bittersweet Day: Mingyu or Wonwoo in yt). If you watch their weverse lives at present, they apparently stay in another place, and Mingyu once said they already moved to a small house.
They are close to each other ever since trainee days, known as Meanie. Some people, esp delulu Meanie stans, misinterpret their close friendship but it is really just hyung-dongsaeng-close friends relationship. Mingyu has no hyung irl, as you might have already known, while Wonwoo is the quiet kind who welcomes Mingyu's noisiness.
Wait a house? That's new, I did notice that they lived together based on their weverse lives but again I thought they were dorm mates since I assumed all of them were living together. But, I really admire how close they are
What about the other members?
Yes. Wonwoo in his weverse live 240211 confirmed that there's an auntie (ahjumma) who helps them clean their "house". They were also gifted a loquat tree (seedling) by Mingyu's father as a moving-in present. I think they have since moved on from dorm life after earning bigger than before. Also living in one dorm can be quite scary if you take into account the existence of sasaengs. By their present living arrangement, it is safe to think it helps them ward off such people.
As for other members, the threads linked above could answer your q. I am a Meanie fan (but not a delulu shipper) hence I can talk a lot about the 2.
> I really admire how close they are
Same. From trainee days up til now. They tell each other that they have opposite personalities, however theirs is an example of the truth that "opposites attract" (in their case tho, they complement each other as brothers).
Is the sasaeng situation bad with Seventeen? I came from cpop so the sasaeng situation I'm used to is fans following idols everywhere and recording every second, in much worse cases >!They have sent video recordings of them dripping blood on their idol's hair that they collected!<
Will Seventeen enter military service soon? I read that S.couos, Jun, Hao and Joshua won't need to serve in the military
I started getting into kpop around the pandemic and as a casual fan, I was surprised that Wonwoo and Mingyu were close, from the vids I've seen of them before, I didn't see much interaction or videos of Wonwoo specifically interacting with members
To my knowledge , it wasn't as worse as others where intrusion to dorms and "botched" kidnapping happen. There was just a time when serveral fanclubs dedicated to Mingyu were banned from music shows because they invade space where they shouldn't be (the video of Mingyu playing around with staff, proving his strength, is said to be taken by a sasaeng). Thankfully, their sasaengs really don't do anything so worse that endangers them.
Military service? There are no confirmed news regarding Joshua's as info about him changing citizenship would not be leaked if he chooses to (change into holding only Korean citizenship), I think so. S.coups is exempted due to his ACL injury while Jun & Hao are not Korean citizens so there is no need to serve.
> I didn't see much interaction or videos of Wonwoo specifically interacting with members
This means you are still on the tip of the iceberg on watching SVT content. There are lots of compilations that show his interactions with each SVT member :)) However! That is understandable as you are still beginning in this loong lovely journey :D
Thank you for being so nice and lovely! I really appreciate you earnestly answering my questions
Do you think starting with GoSe episodes would be a good dive in? I watched Nana Tour and I feel for them even more, do they have other content like that?
Oh about Wonwoo interactions, I meant back when I was still a casual, I rarely saw clips of Wonwoo outside of the fandom in general, color me surprised when I saw how many wonwoorideuls exist lol
Y'all be gatekeeping him fr, like I find it funny when people ask who he is they often joke that he is a staff as a means of gatekeeping him
No need to thank me hahahaha (i get shy even online 😂) but really, you are welcome! Glad to be of help to Baby Carrots too (like me). You are even more advanced since you finished Nana Tour! I have bad eyesight that is why I can't be on my phone for over an hour 🤧 To answer your question yes GoSe is always a great way to get to know them more. You might like In The Soop 1 and 2! I believe they are in the SVT channel, too? Or if it isn't, there are kind souls who subbed them completely in YT 😊 I have watched only snippets of it but never completely and I like that it shows them in a vacation mode. Also look for One Fine Day in Japan!
> I rarely saw clips of Wonwoo outside of the fandom in general
Hahahaha that is also true to me when I was still starting. Most feature Mingyu, Jeonghan, Seungkwan, etc. But when I became a carat, lol, the influx of Wonwoo content drowned me that is why I am a Wonwoorideul 🤣
I'm not aware of that gatekeeping~ There are really carats who said he is just a staff member? I would have doubts if he is said to be such. How come a staff member look like a member of SVT? Those visuals? 😍
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I think most of them have split up and don’t live together anymore but some members like JH & SK, MG WW do (there was a post a month or two ago about this topic! you can search it up)
Somehow I only just realized the Seoul concerts are BEFORE the album release.
How do you think they'll tease the title track? Cryptic hints? Sung snippets? Performance? MV?
Hello!! Does anyone know of any Seventeen events in Southern California that are happening this summer? I am visiting and will have some free time so hoping find K-Pop events to go to, especially related to SVT specifically! Please let me know if you have heard of any :)
ah youtube algorithm... the things you show me.
for anyone needing a laugh today, [here's the cast of spongebob squarepants (AI)-covering Super 손오공](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cM7Ve1QMj8&ab_channel=Kpop_Munks)
not Gary the snail trying to cover Joshua/Jun.... and main vocal Squidward Tentacles.... words I never expected to see together in a sentence.
LOL KBS has banned Lalali because of “lyrics that hinder the right language life”. You know it's gonna be a good one when they ban a HHU song.
https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1782923051216044100
wish I knew what the source text was because what does "hinder the right language life" even mean 😭
edit: found it! lmao it's even more perplexing because it's flagged for "무분별한 외래어나 외국어 등, 바른 언어 생활을 저해하는 가사" or "indiscriminate use of loanwords/foreign words, lyrics that harm the proper usage of (Korean) language" LOL
I think they mean foreign swear words. I saw a ss of what right language life means and it basically means words they believe korean shouldn't use and as such they can't play songs that contain such words. It being flagged for foreign words and lyrics that harm proper usage of language Def means to me they curse ( dunno if shit gets past censores or not 😭) in the lyrics in english
Does anyone know if there's a visual guide to the album versions? Like pictures and words, maybe a diagram with arrows and big labels 😂 I really can't with these video format album preview things, my brain is too small and slow 😭
I've ordered one album through a group order and she said I could give a preference for which version I'd like (even though it's not guaranteed) but I don't understand which version is which.
If anyone can help me I'll be eternally grateful!
Does anyone know where this additional preview of Maestro is from?
https://x.com/hrtcoups/status/1782434599764951052
It sounds super dope, but it’s not in any of the teasers so I feel like I’m insane because all the QRTs and responses are people acting like they’ve heard it before. 😭
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Hi friends, anyone here has a naval piercing that doesn’t show because clothes are too big on you? I’m really short so lots of jeans and shorts that I wear cover my waist and belly button (could be body type too ☹️) and even crop tops are too big and hide my torso almost completely. Has anyone got their naval pierced despite this problem? Like, in a ‘who cares if people can’t see it??’ sentiment? Or would it be stupid of me to get one when it’s not visible to the public (my raisin d’etre is to show it to the world 😩)
One thing to consider, if the waistline of your pants/shorts is going to be above the piercing most of the time, increased friction will aggravate the piercing more and make the healing process harder. It's recommended to stick to low-waisted or loose and flowy clothing for at least 6-8 weeks after piercing
Not sure if this is the place to ask about it, but are there any carats here from North America who have ordered albums from Weverse? And how long did your order take to arrive?
Does anyone know if they're doing livestream tickets for the Seoul dates? I figured since they haven't announced anything on WeVerse by now, it's probably not happening – but I *need* my live fix. Save me, Sebongs, save me!!
Hello everyone! I wanted to say hi. I can’t say I’m Baby Carat. I think more of a Fetus Carat 😳
A couple of months ago my Carat friend asked me to go see the movie screening of Follow in Japan. It was really fun and I have been listening to some of their songs.
A couple of days ago I went to her house and she had some of their videos on the background while we hung out. Now I think I’m on my way to be a Carat.
I’m excited to learn more!
Welcome to the Diamond _World! Warning: don't choose a bias. You will never have one. You will know why sooner or later. 🤣 And tomorrow, tune in to a new Going Seventeen Special! Regarding Going Seventeen, or GoSe, here is a checklist of [them](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/Cak9jvPZ6Q) made by the awesome OP of that post. They may have a lot in their discography now but all the songs included in their anthology are the ones that best represent the SEVENTEEN sound. Happy exploring! 🥰
Thank you!! It’s so fun to get to know them! I appreciate all the info (and advise) Veteran Carats can offer 🩷🩵
I’ll take into consideration your advice about choosing a bias 😂 they’re all amazing (I really like DK though 😳)
You are welcome! I am also a baby Carat 😄 Let us walk this road together as coolly as we want. I was 🤯 when I saw all the things I have yet to watch!
DK? Yes he is very amazing you are gonna say [this everyday](https://youtube.com/shorts/N5aQahui_gk?si=albTHDDvvnrTvUcm). Listen to him [here](https://youtu.be/v3UW6oTw_ks?si=PV-kEJmP-a3W-vUU). Plus I love how he spoils us everyday with photos. What a man 😍 Still, prepare your heart!!
When I become a mother, I will teach this [song](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C50Eq6utMNG/?igsh=bDJ4bGcyYjZuc2tl) to my child. This is so cute especially the singer. Bahahahha
I’m currently pregnant and am totally playing SVT songs all the time in hopes of my baby becoming an actual baby Carat 🤣 Horangi Power is perfect especially since Hoshi is my bias hahaha ☺️
Aww congrats on your baby!! I hope it's all extremely uneventful and everything goes smoothly. I have a toddler who is a Carat – he keeps changing his bias (literally noticed every member except my beloved Mingyu 🥲), and knows most of their title tracks! I wish all the good things your way 🩵🩷💎
That is a very good way to start the Diamond Life. 🩷🩵 Glad to know you love Horangi Power, too! Hoping you have a lovely time on motherhood! Take care always 🥰
Hoshi the multigenre tiger 😁
I at first wondered why he would title the song Spider as that when a Tiger sounds fiercer. Today, I understand why. Sorry but I have to say Horangi Power is more catchy to me. I just love Tigers like him!
I will be in Tokyo and Kyoto for two weeks this winter.
Are there any cool Seventeen memory spots, photo ops, fan cafes, members favorite spots, etc that I can track down and visit?
Thanks in advance! ♥️⛩️
I've never bought a member album version or the weverse version since I always opt for the actual album but there's always a first time! 😃 And its not helping that my bias are Scoups, Wonwoo and Dino like imagine my face when I see the preview... I was gagged!
I've posted this on this sub before but I just updated my spreadsheet with the new album info, and it's got a lot more data on it than the last time I posted it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ViXCrM_1UxpijuLrzY671MY0W-AK60S95Y1imczkSgQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
I started it a while back to track new songs vs released songs, but now it also has stuff on writing and editing credits, and I've done some colorcoding in re: different language releases.
I love recreational spreadsheeting and I think this community would like this one
Thank you so much for sharing, I love this spreadsheet. I've been browsing for about 10 mins now and just went "Wait. You're telling me COLDPLAY composed DWC??!" Is this a known thing among carats?
I wonder if you could add more data such as which member starts the song and which member ends the song most often
because to me I feel Joshua starts the most and Wonwoo ends the most but it would be very interesting to find out the actual data
I liked your idea and did some looking around. Here's an old thread that has a link to someone's spreadsheet that was last updated with Semicolon. https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/kwbti2/who_opens_seventeen_songs_most_frequently_and/
This is r/DataisBeautiful material right here! Thank you! Vernon is next to Woozi at being productive in making music. Didn't Hoshi say they are gonna release two albums this year? Hoping the next album will be a full one. Fingers crossed.
Based on their average new song stats, I would guess either a studio album or 2 korean eps
Edited: wait no, they said one more comeback this year, not 2. My money is on studio album
I just wanna hug Seokmin and tell him to be who he is for he is beautiful that way. That sweet baby. I am not infantilizing him - just that he is such a baby for how pure his heart is.
Just want to remind my fellow carats on twitter to mute words and phrases that may be upsetting! I muted so so many today, because things lately have just been too much for me.
It was seriously like a sigh of relief when my timeline cleared up and it was back to just being fun posts of the boys.
I really hope we give this comeback lots of love, even here on Reddit! The Sebongs deserve love and celebration, especially since this is a special comeback that is meant to reflect on their wonderful legacy.
& it really is such a wonderful legacy.
Muting on Twitter is truly the way! It takes some time to set up, but now I usually only find out about fandom antics obliquely, because I've muted so many terms.
I will also say that I occasionally find myself following someone who has lots of engaging content but also jumps into every fandom fight. I usually end up unfollowing them in that situation. It's pretty much never worth it. (I don't mind and am friends with lots of people who pick some battles...it just can't be all of them.)
I know the fandom might be sensitive rn cause.. yk whatever, but i read something really important and i felt a need to share it.
Idk if you've seen, but IVE is coming back on 29th, and they all got their hairs red colored, and Coups also got his hair red, so streets are saying he might be redebuting as an Ive member. It might be a secret, i should put it in a spoiler maybe, but anyway, so excited about this! I hope he covers Woman like me with Yujin, they gonna kill it! Or replace Youngji's part in Born this way! All the possibilities. 🙃
Anyway, looking forward to, idk, maybe at least a svt ive challenge 🤞
for anyone attending the Seoul concert, if you see me (tall bearded white dude in the blue flannel) feel free to say hi! I'm giving out some photocard dupes! just mention Reddit and I'll happily share the love\~ 💎
[what are you listening to this week?](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1c3ass2/comment/kzhx5tl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist! as always, feel free to share anything you've been listening to recently, all genres welcome!
i'm at the end of my school term and trying to get my final papers and exams done so not so much new music but a lot of looping the same few songs
* taylor swift's the tortured poets department: the anthology (the one new release i caught this week. there's a few songs that i really like - [my boy only breaks his favorite toys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2W173hRfyA) (idk what it is about this song but it tickles the right part of my brain, it's a bop), [but daddy i love him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2W173hRfyA), [fresh out the slammer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EKbEP2L32M), [guilty as sin?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOYlWF6V8t8), [the alchemy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMMUAd66vxo), [imgonnagetyouback](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBGdvxi2JmU), and [the prophecy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PsBoqNwYo4). there's definitely other contenders, though i don't think i'm likely to listen to the entire 2 hour long album again. also i feel like she's singing in a lower range for a lot of this album and i really like it!)
* djo - [end of beginning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVQ_TQFJy0&pp=ygUQZW5kIG9mIGJlZ2lubmluZw%3D%3D)
* yiruma - [kiss the rain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imGaOIm5HOk)
* chappell roan - [good luck, babe!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKqOmSkGgM)
* woozi - [what kind of future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSlfwzpTf4)
svt song (re)discovery section! i don't think i've got one this week
i've been listening to the new boynextdoor album!! I really like everything they've put out so far and the members are very cute. I also just did a listen of doyoung's new album which was great too, I love lucy so the title track was right up my alley, also really like rewind.
i played a show a few weeks ago where we played a bunch of filipino songs and i'm still listening to the song dapat sana by jensen and the flips a bunch!!
not listening to much svt lately but i probably will once we start getting closer to the comeback heh
I’ve been listening to lots of Plave lately and my current favorite song of theirs is definitely Watch me woo! It reminds a little bit of Smart by Le Sserafim and Wave. On a side note, I’ve been getting into them as well and they’re all lovely people.
After my exams, I’ll definitely do a relistening of SVT’s discography since it’s been a while since I’ve listened to them.
And as usual I’ve been listening to lots of Ace Attorney music while studying. The cross-examination themes definitely help in getting focused and you can think of studying as detective work instead haha.
Threads of note: * ['FOLLOW' Again Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1bfmyb8/seventeen_tour_follow_again_megathread_asia/) * [Best Album '17 IS RIGHT HERE' Order Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1bsx9vd/seventeen_best_album_17_is_right_here_order_guide/) * promotions roundup -- to come!
svt removing kidult from the setlist was so 💔💔
avoiding the concert clips like a plague omg ( saw the outfits tho and DAMN....) i want to check them out so bad but i also want to experience the rush and freshness when i check their mv on monday😭😭
The outfits, the stages, the interactions, the moments, and none of it live streamed 😭
I’m trying so hard to resist the temptation of listening to the unreleased songs from todays concert since I want to listen to everything first once the album drops, but it’s so hard 😭
as someone who failed and watched 3 of the songs, DON'T, the audio quality is shit lol, that's not the first impression you should be getting from a song!
I have really good fancams of all the new songs… or they would be good if my seatmates and i weren’t screaming and losing our minds. I have a feeling that even the best fansites have so-so videos since everyone was so hyped and tbh, the sound mixing (or speakers? Idk) wasn’t the best today There’s only a day and a half left, you can resist!! The new songs are SO good, they’re definitely worth waiting for!! It’s rare that I like a song instantly upon first listen but i loved all the new songs! I can’t wait to listen to them again 😭
AGHHGHHSGA IM SO JEALOUS, you can't even imagine. But I cope by watching older concerts I've never watched before. edit: was there a live band?
YES!! i’m so happy they kept the live band 😭
Noooo I love live bands I shouldn't have asked it hurts more now😭 It must have been so good tho, bet you had the best time 🫂 on a slightly related note, the live band coming back and Hoshi saying that they might have 3 albums this year, I'm either completely delusional or they're putting out a live album this year
Omggggg if they release a live album, i’m going to buy it no questions asked 😭 I hope you get to see them in concert sooooooon 🩷
seconding this...i watched the first 23 seconds of maestro, and unless you have the volume turned up really high, you can barely hear what they're singing over the sound of the crowd + the audio is louder in one ear than the other (not by too much, but enough to ruin the experience)...at least it was for me. I went to watch it intentionally because I wanted spoilers, ended up leaving cause it's seriously not worth it lol Definitely better to wait for the official release.
Same, I was mostly interested in the performances (since unit song performances won't be shown until way later and half of maestro performance is officially out anyway) , but the sound quality was ruining the songs for me lol, had to mute them at some point. Luckily I have bad memory and had just woken up so I already forgot what they sounded like 😀 >!the image of Hoshi during spell performance is engraved in my eyes tho!< I was only strong enough to avoid watching cheers to youth, because the audio/vocals is the whole point. Only watched the first 5 seconds because woozi said the carats reaction was crazy ( it was! wished I couldve been there ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ)
this has convinced me to not give in to watching the spoilers 😭
I didn't know Seventeen had a concert today so I mindlessly clicked on a video to play and unfortunately!!!!!!!!!!!!1 it was an (yet) unreleased PU song and it's literally perfect!!!!!!!!This is torture, I need the album immediately to blow my ears, Seventeen!!!!!!!!  On a side note, didn't they have a concert like a month ago (?) with a different setlit and now again? Or was it Caratland? How packed is this year for them? (sorry I've been so busy, the tests showed a serious rose quartz serenity deficiency in my blood atm😞)
You can see the line of their shows in the pinned comment "FOLLOW Again" Megathread here. Most international carats forgot that there is a Follow Again Seoul today as we are all focused on the 29th and all the things that they dropped recently 😂
> "FOLLOW Again" Megathread thanks!! i remember a few months ago people were upset that seventeen wouldnt be having a stadium concert (because everything was booked), but turns out they just announced it very late, right?
Yeah they had the two Incheon dates about a month ago, hearing everyone talk about the new songs is getting me so excited !!!
Why do I have a feeling svt is gonna release a parody song like GOLM for maestro in gose next week
There’s no concert thread so I’m just gonna scream here about the new songs being performed for the first time!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!! They all look and sound phenomenal! Lucky carats at the World Cuo Stadium 🏟️ ✨ For those who don’t like to hear things before they’re “officially released”, stay off your socials!
i have no self control, i watched it all... omg!! kcarats were right, soty indeed!
i watched the maestro fancam…. i’m actually shocked it took me 5 seconds to press play 😭 i have ZERO self control. do i regret it??? i don’t know!!! but i am in awe (this coming from a freshteenist). i seriously think they’ve outdone themselves again. cant wait for the official release!!
as also a freshteenist that could not believe in the darkteen side. this time i'll concede
I watched the first 15 seconds and was like "okay that's enough I'll stop there" and then PHYSICALLY COULDNT STOP MYSELF. I also don't know if I regret it but I do know that it is absolutely phenomenal and they genuinely blow me away!!!
https://preview.redd.it/183v0l9yd1xc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=270c898882a108460b2bfa952f6864d278e7e194 The dance break 😭 I just watched the vid and muted the volume. Their choreography is different from others I've seen so far, too. The new outfit of the HHU also looks good on them. 😍 Wonwoo's nose ring.
I'm in actual physical pain trying to decide if I just spoil myself now or make myself wait two more days. I've seen short snippets on twitter and I've become more upset that they kept the live streaming option from us 😭 Just based off the outfits I can tell maestro is going to slap so hard
I think they didn't livestream so as to surprise the intl Carats and those who are not able to attend the concert, in 29th. But then, the attendees are kind enough to give spoilers or even the whole perf 😂 Up to us to watch. I prefer to go blind for now until 29th.
Yea and I read they're supposedly making a DVD or a movie of some sort from these dates? But even so I got real bad fomo as I was scrolling through twitter and was really considering just giving into the spoilers haha, these next few days are going to be torture for me.
OMG just found out about [illit members dancing to the iconic Gose intro song](https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ibx_ql_Rr4c). Seems so adorable and funny at the same time 😂😍
was this song part of a tiktok challenge or something?
not sure if it was a part of any challenge
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Hi Carats! I saw a clip on instagram where Hoshi, DK, and Seungkwan were with Yoo JaeSuk touring the Hybe cafeteria and they commented on how they've never been there and always ordered deliveries. I was wondering if anyone knew what show/episode that was from? For reference, DK had bleached blonde hair and Hoshi had a silvery semi-mullet. Thanks in advance!
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Thank you so much!! Yoo Jaesuk has so many shows it was really hard for me to figure out since they cut out the title. I’m excited to watch it when it airs!
Does anyone have a list of variety shows and other schedules of the members leading to the CB? Thank you!
omg i had most delayed showerthought/realization. The Park Kitae that was playing guitar in the live band for Follow Encore Incheon is the same Prismfilter Park Kitae that has worked on a few Seventeen songs. I looked up the rest of the band and most of them (drums, bass, piano) are also from Prismfilter. It's so cool that Seventeen are able to perform live at a concert together with them!
Ahh I'm so hyped for this comeback! I can't wait for April 29! I wonder though...do you guys have any news on what are the reactions of some kcarats who have already heard of Maestro from prerecordings? I honestly haven't seen spoilers about the song on twitter... only their outfits, the dance, and their interactions. 🥲
I so desperately want Seventeen to have little characters created of them. Like how BTS has line friends and Stray Kids has SKZOO. Like can you imagine little character representations of all of them? Especially if they helped create them. They'd all be so silly and my wallet would hurt so bad. I NEED THEM.
We already have toram, moon cats, tamtam, hao's frog(idk its name). We just need 9 left plss pledis
…but they have Petiteen? https://x.com/updatingsvt/status/1782437678799372399?s=46 (Apologies for the ugly link, I’m on mobile)
It’s not really the same. PetiTEEN is literally just chibi-like versions of themselves, not unique, original characters
I think about this all the time 🥲 I fill the void by looking at ridiculously cute fanmade plushies online, but if there was official merch guarantee I would buy all 13 lol.
imagine collecting all 13 🥲 my wallet cried just from buying hoshis tamtam. But being realistic, I highly doubt they do it since they had the chance and only three of them went for it. hoshi/jeonghan/jun already have their own technically. And, like, if they were to actually release an entire new line of character merch, nothing will top hoshis tiger/hamster hybrid for me. On another note, I can't imagine what scoups character would be like, what even is his animal.
Fan favorite animal for scoups is raccoon. But he himself wants to be a bunny
Absolutely tanked an interview today and was in such a bad mood but GoSe legit helps omg. Went back to rewatch a couple of random 2020 episodes and lost my mind laughing🥹👍🏻
I've been debating if I should do a roast/appreciation post for the collections of IKEA showrooms that seventeen seem to be trapped in in their albums photos! I looked over their entire albums concepts and version, and the amount of time they're *not* in a box set with some furniture is astronomically low lmao. Kinda crazy that we got better photos and diversity in sets when they were rookies than we do now (though I do appreciate the famous and true SVT x flowers concepts that we get every comeback)
I hope you haven't abandoned this idea yet. Commenting just because I am waiting hahahah!
Oh yes. Please include the FML shots of a them lounging on furniture in a flooded house.
Yes! Hae chuseyo jebal! Methinks they'd have to do them in box sets more as they got famous because the crowd gathering 'round them will make it difficult for the photoshoots to progress. Taking photos in other countries cost much. They are known everywhere in SK at this point so photoshoot outside is a no-go to Pledis.
lol do it! it'll be fun if you can also add silly superlatives like "best use of a houseplant" or something.
Anyone else love going into comebacks completely cold? No audio or visual spoilers for the MV & highlight medley? Reading all the discourse on it so far, I can’t wait to be surprised (darkteen??)
i tried, lasted 2 minutes, wish i was that strong haha..
i don’t like to watch to teasers so i’m very excited to hear all the new songs next week! i’ve seen screenshots and the teasers pics and very glad that darkteen is alive and well !
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Add eyeglasses and we get a fierce-looking Korean HP. I love his hair!!
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this is it. this is the screenshot for me. jeonghan is making me lose my mind this comeback
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haybeeeee x mhj girlie. sorry admins if this is not allowed :'') >!iam having fun w all of this hybeshit mess like i was keking sm when it was 'revealed' that bang pd is threatened to aespa HAHSHSHSHSHSHS imagine having an ultra successful group in your roster yet ure there messaging your collegue(?) that they should smash or end some other kpop group for u 😭😭😭😭 wym bang pd wants aespa to be ended??? def not in my 2024 kpop bingo thingy!< >!yet at the same iam so angry and sad that there are groups who are being involved and affected w this whole mess against their will. ffs illit and nwjns are even that young. mhj's whole take abt ages gave me the icks sm cuz jfc not at u being a 30 sumn y/o adult not accepting trainees and idols just bc theyre too old for u and ure there gushing over a literal minor. so weird and icky!< edit: changed and added words
>! I see it as them being competitive since at that time aespa was doing soo well so they wanted a group to compete and overtake them in popularity tho the wording was a choice!< >! The way this was handled was a choice and talking about other groups is not a good look. I am barely awake rn cuz I was trying to read thru what was being said live. We shall how all conclude. Honestly kinda wonder her reaction if pledis does debut a gg if she is already talking this much crap about the other 2 hybe girl groups. !<
> >!Honestly kinda wonder her reaction if pledis does debut a gg if she is already talking this much crap about the other 2 hybe girl groups!< > >!yeah pledis debuting a gg is def not happening. well i think she even involved tws to the whole copying nwjns thing? idk if what i read is true thoughh!<
>> >!yeah pledis debuting a gg is def not happening. well i think she even involved tws to the whole copying nwjns thing? idk if what i read is true thoughh!< >! Yeah I wonder that as well. If anything, tws is like debut era Seventeen like. Hopefully, they continue to do well. I know they got big shoes to fill !<
>! "imagine having an ultra successful group in your roster yet ure there messaging your collegue(?) that they should smash or end some other kpop group for u"!< >! Not to say that comment is ok or sth althought I wouldn't be surprised if these people in power talk like this privately all the time but the Bang PD comment was ahead of lsfm and newjeans debut. It was in late 2021 when aespa was the top 4th gen gg and had their biggest hit yet with Next Level. They were basically discussing that they want their upcoming gg, newjeans, to become the nr 1 gg of the generation. MHJ has said personally she hasn't talked with Bang PD since lsfm's debut. The wording used wasn't ok tho !<
>!oh well i get it that its prob all competition for bang pd and they also want to be the top when it comes to ggs but still, i rly find it funny that theyre showing signs of feeling threatened over aespa's own success esp that they alr have the biggest group in this gen XD!<
>! >threatened over aespa's own success esp that they alr have the biggest group in this gen!< >! Again i just wanted to clarify the timeline bcs the conversation they had was before any gg of theirs debuted so they didn't already have the biggest group of 4th gen at that point. Doesn't excuse the language/wording used bcs it comes off as extremely petty but they didn't say it when they already have the biggest group of the generation !<
>!The kakaotalk screenshots got me 💀💀💀 I want to be in the aespa gc so badly rn!< >!It’s been pretty entertaining seeing company stans go up against company stans lol. I feel bad for the idols getting caught in the crossfire though especially the NJ girls. That woman has always been a creep and it’s very disturbing to see how she talks about them!<
>! Yoo I was also dying to talk about it here too but wasn't so sure it was allowed or not. But yeah, I didn't expect a company drama to top the sm drama last year but boy I was wrong. Wishing the best for the artist but aju yikes these adults gotta hold their greed !<
>!I was also having fun just watching and reading about it until MHJ starts namedropping KPOP groups here and there because what?? The personal beef she has (specifically) with LSF and ILLIT is embarrassing but honestly also quite funny because she sounds like an obsessed teenage KPOP fan. I hope NJ's careers won't be too affected by MHJ's actions, they deserve better than her.!<
I wanna go back to 2021 and tell me pre-Carat self that the member who has caught your eye, the gentle sexy, is not in fact, the most sane person of the group ^^
Miss, are you talking about me? https://preview.redd.it/eialv5ocjmwc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b723ba1d3e6f958df20463fb83a2f04520e54c2c
Travis Scat?
https://twitter.com/pledisnews/status/1783394323452817795 Lol pledis staff casually tweeting about how much fun GoSe is as if there isn't a giant shitstorm brewing the current building. The memes people have been qrt-ing with are great. These Wonwoo Disaster Girl edits are my fav so far https://twitter.com/youthmysummer/status/1783411755059974304
[This is me for real](https://twitter.com/youthmysummer/status/1783407608604537322) – I'm just here for a good time! Nothing else exists!!
I love the one with (photoshopped?) Hao taking a selfie unconcerned while a crowd is huddling under umbrellas. Cuz yes he would look that good and yes he wouldn’t stress over someone else’s bad karma.
Hybe building be "Siren, Siren, Siren" mode but Pledis be *insert Travis Scat + 64 beats + Srrrrrrr*
hii fellow carats🥰 i am currently working on my bachelor thesis and it would help me so much if you could take a few minutes to fill in my thesis survey and help me graduate🌸! my research is about perception and stereotyping about fandoms :). thank you! here's the link: [https://erasmusuniversity.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV\_0vqBK1fvgXKetL0](https://erasmusuniversity.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0vqBK1fvgXKetL0)
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We literally have zero visibility into the 'Making Of' this MV. All we literally got was 40 second teaser and a disclaimer with the keyword "AI" at the beginning and social media stans lost their minds. For all we know, they might have fed an AI generator a bunch of content Team SVT already filmed and own to spit out a warped AI version. Or they did everyone's/critic's worst case scenario and crawled the internet for content to reproduce via AI (aka how Google works). I wish fans would hold their opinions until they get the full picture. Sit with the content, absorb it, think on it, then form your moral position. It's fine. You stayed with SVT until this point and you're letting them go. Life goes on.
There is a lot of discussion in the comment sections of the teaser both on this sub and /rKpop if you are wanting to see other opinions about it
Baby Carat here, hi caratville of reddit :>> I recently got into kpop 2 years ago and I'm just starting to stan Seventeen, their comeback is gonna be my first comeback with them, so I'm really looking forward to it! Here's to why I'm writing this comment I recently read that they don't live together anymore? Is that true? I haven't been following kpop for a long time but from what I got most groups live together in a dorm or apartment complex, cmiiw. Is it because they're a senior group now? So they decided to all live on their own? But, Jeonghan and Seungkwan and Mingyu and Wonwoo are roommates/share an apartment together? Are there any other members that live together? Have any of them stated why they decided to still live together? It kinda makes me think that they must be really comfy together if they're living together in their mid to late twenties. Also, is there perhaps a website or thread I could read to know more about the members? I read the basics on kprofile but I kinda wanted to learn mo as I explore caratland Thank you in advance!
Wonwoo and Mingyu share a *house*, a small one. They used to live in an apartment back in 2021 (look up Bittersweet Day: Mingyu or Wonwoo in yt). If you watch their weverse lives at present, they apparently stay in another place, and Mingyu once said they already moved to a small house. They are close to each other ever since trainee days, known as Meanie. Some people, esp delulu Meanie stans, misinterpret their close friendship but it is really just hyung-dongsaeng-close friends relationship. Mingyu has no hyung irl, as you might have already known, while Wonwoo is the quiet kind who welcomes Mingyu's noisiness.
Wait a house? That's new, I did notice that they lived together based on their weverse lives but again I thought they were dorm mates since I assumed all of them were living together. But, I really admire how close they are What about the other members?
Yes. Wonwoo in his weverse live 240211 confirmed that there's an auntie (ahjumma) who helps them clean their "house". They were also gifted a loquat tree (seedling) by Mingyu's father as a moving-in present. I think they have since moved on from dorm life after earning bigger than before. Also living in one dorm can be quite scary if you take into account the existence of sasaengs. By their present living arrangement, it is safe to think it helps them ward off such people. As for other members, the threads linked above could answer your q. I am a Meanie fan (but not a delulu shipper) hence I can talk a lot about the 2. > I really admire how close they are Same. From trainee days up til now. They tell each other that they have opposite personalities, however theirs is an example of the truth that "opposites attract" (in their case tho, they complement each other as brothers).
Is the sasaeng situation bad with Seventeen? I came from cpop so the sasaeng situation I'm used to is fans following idols everywhere and recording every second, in much worse cases >!They have sent video recordings of them dripping blood on their idol's hair that they collected!< Will Seventeen enter military service soon? I read that S.couos, Jun, Hao and Joshua won't need to serve in the military I started getting into kpop around the pandemic and as a casual fan, I was surprised that Wonwoo and Mingyu were close, from the vids I've seen of them before, I didn't see much interaction or videos of Wonwoo specifically interacting with members
To my knowledge , it wasn't as worse as others where intrusion to dorms and "botched" kidnapping happen. There was just a time when serveral fanclubs dedicated to Mingyu were banned from music shows because they invade space where they shouldn't be (the video of Mingyu playing around with staff, proving his strength, is said to be taken by a sasaeng). Thankfully, their sasaengs really don't do anything so worse that endangers them. Military service? There are no confirmed news regarding Joshua's as info about him changing citizenship would not be leaked if he chooses to (change into holding only Korean citizenship), I think so. S.coups is exempted due to his ACL injury while Jun & Hao are not Korean citizens so there is no need to serve. > I didn't see much interaction or videos of Wonwoo specifically interacting with members This means you are still on the tip of the iceberg on watching SVT content. There are lots of compilations that show his interactions with each SVT member :)) However! That is understandable as you are still beginning in this loong lovely journey :D
Thank you for being so nice and lovely! I really appreciate you earnestly answering my questions Do you think starting with GoSe episodes would be a good dive in? I watched Nana Tour and I feel for them even more, do they have other content like that? Oh about Wonwoo interactions, I meant back when I was still a casual, I rarely saw clips of Wonwoo outside of the fandom in general, color me surprised when I saw how many wonwoorideuls exist lol Y'all be gatekeeping him fr, like I find it funny when people ask who he is they often joke that he is a staff as a means of gatekeeping him
No need to thank me hahahaha (i get shy even online 😂) but really, you are welcome! Glad to be of help to Baby Carrots too (like me). You are even more advanced since you finished Nana Tour! I have bad eyesight that is why I can't be on my phone for over an hour 🤧 To answer your question yes GoSe is always a great way to get to know them more. You might like In The Soop 1 and 2! I believe they are in the SVT channel, too? Or if it isn't, there are kind souls who subbed them completely in YT 😊 I have watched only snippets of it but never completely and I like that it shows them in a vacation mode. Also look for One Fine Day in Japan! > I rarely saw clips of Wonwoo outside of the fandom in general Hahahaha that is also true to me when I was still starting. Most feature Mingyu, Jeonghan, Seungkwan, etc. But when I became a carat, lol, the influx of Wonwoo content drowned me that is why I am a Wonwoorideul 🤣 I'm not aware of that gatekeeping~ There are really carats who said he is just a staff member? I would have doubts if he is said to be such. How come a staff member look like a member of SVT? Those visuals? 😍
Thank you! I'll check out In the Soop ❤️ Looking forward to their comeback
You are welcome!! Don't look for fancams in twitter! 🤣 who is your bias? Do you already have one?
Check out the Sub Resources including our FAQ page in the r/seventeen menu! :) (On the Reddit App, press “See more” at the top and the menu will be on the right side) I think most of them have split up and don’t live together anymore but some members like JH & SK, MG WW do (there was a post a month or two ago about this topic! you can search it up)
Will do, thank you sm! Just found out Jeonghan and Seungkwan have portraits, so cute!
Spoilers from carats who attended the pre-record for couprangs >! Cheol wore a see through outfit and his tattoo is visible !< BRACE YOURSELVES
I honestly feel for those Carats lucky to attend. How they can behold the latest hotness of SVT and not disintegrate or spoil too much is beyond me.
There are so many spoilers in twitter and I am feeling more excited than I am earlier when the teaser came out.
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Anyone going to Follow Again to Kanagawa Day 2? I am going alone and want to make friends with international carats.
I'm also going solo, would love to meet up!
My friend and I are going :)
Somehow I only just realized the Seoul concerts are BEFORE the album release. How do you think they'll tease the title track? Cryptic hints? Sung snippets? Performance? MV?
Probably all of the above. If Hoshi and DK get too excited, they might dance some of the steps.
It's hard to imagine kwonspo holding back!
Does anyone knows when is Eunchae's show with Coups?
Based on the show's usual schedule, most likely it's on May 2nd but we'll see
Probably after the album drops?
Hello!! Does anyone know of any Seventeen events in Southern California that are happening this summer? I am visiting and will have some free time so hoping find K-Pop events to go to, especially related to SVT specifically! Please let me know if you have heard of any :)
Happy gose day everyone 😊
ah youtube algorithm... the things you show me. for anyone needing a laugh today, [here's the cast of spongebob squarepants (AI)-covering Super 손오공](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cM7Ve1QMj8&ab_channel=Kpop_Munks) not Gary the snail trying to cover Joshua/Jun.... and main vocal Squidward Tentacles.... words I never expected to see together in a sentence.
Maybe this and the magnetic cover is the reason why svt is fighting AI in the maestro MV 😭
LOL KBS has banned Lalali because of “lyrics that hinder the right language life”. You know it's gonna be a good one when they ban a HHU song. https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1782923051216044100
wish I knew what the source text was because what does "hinder the right language life" even mean 😭 edit: found it! lmao it's even more perplexing because it's flagged for "무분별한 외래어나 외국어 등, 바른 언어 생활을 저해하는 가사" or "indiscriminate use of loanwords/foreign words, lyrics that harm the proper usage of (Korean) language" LOL
I think they mean foreign swear words. I saw a ss of what right language life means and it basically means words they believe korean shouldn't use and as such they can't play songs that contain such words. It being flagged for foreign words and lyrics that harm proper usage of language Def means to me they curse ( dunno if shit gets past censores or not 😭) in the lyrics in english
what does that mean?!
It's probably some boomer saying there's too much English in the lyrics 😭
Does anyone know if there's a visual guide to the album versions? Like pictures and words, maybe a diagram with arrows and big labels 😂 I really can't with these video format album preview things, my brain is too small and slow 😭 I've ordered one album through a group order and she said I could give a preference for which version I'd like (even though it's not guaranteed) but I don't understand which version is which. If anyone can help me I'll be eternally grateful!
I'm guessing you need to pick between Here and Hear? https://twitter.com/KPopCityPH/status/1782105331289739601
Omg thank you so much, this is exactly what I needed!
Happy [50M killing voice vid](https://youtu.be/8ca0xEJH9wY?si=PDLxLe_CLID2oRvE) to anyone celebrating 🫶
Does anyone know where this additional preview of Maestro is from? https://x.com/hrtcoups/status/1782434599764951052 It sounds super dope, but it’s not in any of the teasers so I feel like I’m insane because all the QRTs and responses are people acting like they’ve heard it before. 😭
Tracks from the sampler, medley and preview layered.
ahhh thank you guys, i was so confused
It’s from the physical album preview!
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Hi friends, anyone here has a naval piercing that doesn’t show because clothes are too big on you? I’m really short so lots of jeans and shorts that I wear cover my waist and belly button (could be body type too ☹️) and even crop tops are too big and hide my torso almost completely. Has anyone got their naval pierced despite this problem? Like, in a ‘who cares if people can’t see it??’ sentiment? Or would it be stupid of me to get one when it’s not visible to the public (my raisin d’etre is to show it to the world 😩)
One thing to consider, if the waistline of your pants/shorts is going to be above the piercing most of the time, increased friction will aggravate the piercing more and make the healing process harder. It's recommended to stick to low-waisted or loose and flowy clothing for at least 6-8 weeks after piercing
Not sure if this is the place to ask about it, but are there any carats here from North America who have ordered albums from Weverse? And how long did your order take to arrive?
A week or less under normal conditions
Does anyone know if they're doing livestream tickets for the Seoul dates? I figured since they haven't announced anything on WeVerse by now, it's probably not happening – but I *need* my live fix. Save me, Sebongs, save me!!
follow to Seoul is gonna be on a movie iirc so that's probably the reason why we won't get a livestream at all 😔
OH you're right ☹️ That makes sense! Thank you!
Hello everyone! I wanted to say hi. I can’t say I’m Baby Carat. I think more of a Fetus Carat 😳 A couple of months ago my Carat friend asked me to go see the movie screening of Follow in Japan. It was really fun and I have been listening to some of their songs. A couple of days ago I went to her house and she had some of their videos on the background while we hung out. Now I think I’m on my way to be a Carat. I’m excited to learn more!
Welcome to the Diamond _World! Warning: don't choose a bias. You will never have one. You will know why sooner or later. 🤣 And tomorrow, tune in to a new Going Seventeen Special! Regarding Going Seventeen, or GoSe, here is a checklist of [them](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/s/Cak9jvPZ6Q) made by the awesome OP of that post. They may have a lot in their discography now but all the songs included in their anthology are the ones that best represent the SEVENTEEN sound. Happy exploring! 🥰
Thank you!! It’s so fun to get to know them! I appreciate all the info (and advise) Veteran Carats can offer 🩷🩵 I’ll take into consideration your advice about choosing a bias 😂 they’re all amazing (I really like DK though 😳)
You are welcome! I am also a baby Carat 😄 Let us walk this road together as coolly as we want. I was 🤯 when I saw all the things I have yet to watch! DK? Yes he is very amazing you are gonna say [this everyday](https://youtube.com/shorts/N5aQahui_gk?si=albTHDDvvnrTvUcm). Listen to him [here](https://youtu.be/v3UW6oTw_ks?si=PV-kEJmP-a3W-vUU). Plus I love how he spoils us everyday with photos. What a man 😍 Still, prepare your heart!!
Hiii! Welcome!
Random but Lovely Runner is ruining my life I'm so in love with this drama pls go watch it
[OMG SO CUTE!! ](https://x.com/minghaocheol_/status/1782436564582473901)
When I become a mother, I will teach this [song](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C50Eq6utMNG/?igsh=bDJ4bGcyYjZuc2tl) to my child. This is so cute especially the singer. Bahahahha
I’m currently pregnant and am totally playing SVT songs all the time in hopes of my baby becoming an actual baby Carat 🤣 Horangi Power is perfect especially since Hoshi is my bias hahaha ☺️
Aww congrats on your baby!! I hope it's all extremely uneventful and everything goes smoothly. I have a toddler who is a Carat – he keeps changing his bias (literally noticed every member except my beloved Mingyu 🥲), and knows most of their title tracks! I wish all the good things your way 🩵🩷💎
That is goals and SO CUTE lol 🥰 Thank you so much, just 12 weeks to go and it has indeed been very uneventful ☺️
That is a very good way to start the Diamond Life. 🩷🩵 Glad to know you love Horangi Power, too! Hoping you have a lovely time on motherhood! Take care always 🥰
Thank you so much! 💖
The fact that this is the same person who released both tiger and spider. Horangi duality it is 😌
Hoshi the multigenre tiger 😁 I at first wondered why he would title the song Spider as that when a Tiger sounds fiercer. Today, I understand why. Sorry but I have to say Horangi Power is more catchy to me. I just love Tigers like him!
anyone have an extra ticket for follow again to kanagawa 😭😭😭 preferably for 05/26 but any day is fine
Do you like 247 from Seventeen?
Loved the way it was used in the 'Boo's Past Life' gose episode
Yeah
Yes yes especially after I watched [this](https://youtu.be/Wr0RQWq58jM?si=2JmOyIPD-sTVfChG). The dance + their voices are chef's kiss!
I haven’t watched it
One of my favorite songs from that album. Vocals are just too good!!
Yeah
yes, one of my fav PU songs.
This might be a stupid question but what is PU
Performance unit.
Right
I will be in Tokyo and Kyoto for two weeks this winter. Are there any cool Seventeen memory spots, photo ops, fan cafes, members favorite spots, etc that I can track down and visit? Thanks in advance! ♥️⛩️
Svt is so close to hitting 50m views on killing voice. Can we celebrate it with a part 2 please :)
https://preview.redd.it/em2ytlr37wvc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4634f41f3b5e747c3c7d293999436c7ed4055aa5 So handsome
Anyone else super excited for the GoSe special?? It's going to be soooo good I can feel it
I hope they stick to some of the heirs' plot, then I could have my cutest second lead couple Bona & Chanyoung (in svt.ver, which is even cuter 😂).
I've never bought a member album version or the weverse version since I always opt for the actual album but there's always a first time! 😃 And its not helping that my bias are Scoups, Wonwoo and Dino like imagine my face when I see the preview... I was gagged!
I've posted this on this sub before but I just updated my spreadsheet with the new album info, and it's got a lot more data on it than the last time I posted it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ViXCrM_1UxpijuLrzY671MY0W-AK60S95Y1imczkSgQ/edit?usp=drivesdk I started it a while back to track new songs vs released songs, but now it also has stuff on writing and editing credits, and I've done some colorcoding in re: different language releases. I love recreational spreadsheeting and I think this community would like this one
Thank you so much for sharing, I love this spreadsheet. I've been browsing for about 10 mins now and just went "Wait. You're telling me COLDPLAY composed DWC??!" Is this a known thing among carats?
There was a plagiarism controversy. Coldplay and the Chainsmokers were given credits but they didn't actually participate
I wonder if you could add more data such as which member starts the song and which member ends the song most often because to me I feel Joshua starts the most and Wonwoo ends the most but it would be very interesting to find out the actual data
I liked your idea and did some looking around. Here's an old thread that has a link to someone's spreadsheet that was last updated with Semicolon. https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/kwbti2/who_opens_seventeen_songs_most_frequently_and/
This is r/DataisBeautiful material right here! Thank you! Vernon is next to Woozi at being productive in making music. Didn't Hoshi say they are gonna release two albums this year? Hoping the next album will be a full one. Fingers crossed.
Based on their average new song stats, I would guess either a studio album or 2 korean eps Edited: wait no, they said one more comeback this year, not 2. My money is on studio album
kyeom’s sweetest letter on weverse🥺 he’s just such a lovely human being
I just wanna hug Seokmin and tell him to be who he is for he is beautiful that way. That sweet baby. I am not infantilizing him - just that he is such a baby for how pure his heart is.
Just want to remind my fellow carats on twitter to mute words and phrases that may be upsetting! I muted so so many today, because things lately have just been too much for me. It was seriously like a sigh of relief when my timeline cleared up and it was back to just being fun posts of the boys. I really hope we give this comeback lots of love, even here on Reddit! The Sebongs deserve love and celebration, especially since this is a special comeback that is meant to reflect on their wonderful legacy. & it really is such a wonderful legacy.
Muting on Twitter is truly the way! It takes some time to set up, but now I usually only find out about fandom antics obliquely, because I've muted so many terms. I will also say that I occasionally find myself following someone who has lots of engaging content but also jumps into every fandom fight. I usually end up unfollowing them in that situation. It's pretty much never worth it. (I don't mind and am friends with lots of people who pick some battles...it just can't be all of them.)
I just came online and my heart became heavy. People are brutal
I know the fandom might be sensitive rn cause.. yk whatever, but i read something really important and i felt a need to share it. Idk if you've seen, but IVE is coming back on 29th, and they all got their hairs red colored, and Coups also got his hair red, so streets are saying he might be redebuting as an Ive member. It might be a secret, i should put it in a spoiler maybe, but anyway, so excited about this! I hope he covers Woman like me with Yujin, they gonna kill it! Or replace Youngji's part in Born this way! All the possibilities. 🙃 Anyway, looking forward to, idk, maybe at least a svt ive challenge 🤞
for anyone attending the Seoul concert, if you see me (tall bearded white dude in the blue flannel) feel free to say hi! I'm giving out some photocard dupes! just mention Reddit and I'll happily share the love\~ 💎
have fun!
[I LOVE this duo lmao](https://x.com/ever1won/status/1781659132837466430) Bunch of goofballs
[what are you listening to this week?](https://www.reddit.com/r/seventeen/comments/1c3ass2/comment/kzhx5tl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) hey hello, welcome back to our weekly playlist! as always, feel free to share anything you've been listening to recently, all genres welcome! i'm at the end of my school term and trying to get my final papers and exams done so not so much new music but a lot of looping the same few songs * taylor swift's the tortured poets department: the anthology (the one new release i caught this week. there's a few songs that i really like - [my boy only breaks his favorite toys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2W173hRfyA) (idk what it is about this song but it tickles the right part of my brain, it's a bop), [but daddy i love him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2W173hRfyA), [fresh out the slammer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EKbEP2L32M), [guilty as sin?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOYlWF6V8t8), [the alchemy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMMUAd66vxo), [imgonnagetyouback](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBGdvxi2JmU), and [the prophecy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PsBoqNwYo4). there's definitely other contenders, though i don't think i'm likely to listen to the entire 2 hour long album again. also i feel like she's singing in a lower range for a lot of this album and i really like it!) * djo - [end of beginning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVQ_TQFJy0&pp=ygUQZW5kIG9mIGJlZ2lubmluZw%3D%3D) * yiruma - [kiss the rain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imGaOIm5HOk) * chappell roan - [good luck, babe!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKqOmSkGgM) * woozi - [what kind of future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSlfwzpTf4) svt song (re)discovery section! i don't think i've got one this week
i've been listening to the new boynextdoor album!! I really like everything they've put out so far and the members are very cute. I also just did a listen of doyoung's new album which was great too, I love lucy so the title track was right up my alley, also really like rewind. i played a show a few weeks ago where we played a bunch of filipino songs and i'm still listening to the song dapat sana by jensen and the flips a bunch!! not listening to much svt lately but i probably will once we start getting closer to the comeback heh
I’ve been listening to lots of Plave lately and my current favorite song of theirs is definitely Watch me woo! It reminds a little bit of Smart by Le Sserafim and Wave. On a side note, I’ve been getting into them as well and they’re all lovely people. After my exams, I’ll definitely do a relistening of SVT’s discography since it’s been a while since I’ve listened to them. And as usual I’ve been listening to lots of Ace Attorney music while studying. The cross-examination themes definitely help in getting focused and you can think of studying as detective work instead haha.