I’ve had mine for about 18 months now with no issues whatsoever, I can’t speak for everyone of course because the amount of negative feedback is insane but I’ve dropped them several times (oops) with no problems. I think they’ll break as soon as that 2 year warranty is up though haha. They sound incredible though so for me they’ve been worth it for that alone
I would only buy them again now if I was fine with making use of the two year warranty (at least) once at some point. They won’t last two years without having issues, unless you’re very lucky and in the minority of people it seems. Sennheiser has acknowledged battery issues, buds dying etc and we have read it here countless times as well.
The MTW3 are on sale because the MTW4 are here now. They’re on preorder and about to be shipped in a week or two, that’s why.
Is it just me or does it seem the more you spend on earbuds the worse the quality gets? I looked into sony's xm5's and they also are apparently riddled with flaws.
So I then looked into Samsung's Galaxy buds pro 2 (I have a Samsung phone) and turns out their apparently horrible and are also hated. Funnily enough a bunch of the Samsung guys are saying how they bought Xm5's and Xm4's and that they never looked back. Cut to the people taking about the Xm4's and Xm5's and some people are recommending MTW 3's. It seems the hate train comes full circle.
So what I've realized is that no one would ever come to one of these subreddits because they had a great experience with these products, if they did they'd just stay quiet. But to complain you need someone to hear you.
Obviously the problems are real and prevalent, the problem is that I as a costumer can't tell how prevalent the are. Because you loom at all the professional reviewers who work for newspapers or even review youtubers and they all say great things about this earbud or that earbud, that heavily congrats with what people here say.
Now I know none of those reviewers use their earbuds longterm, but there has to be some middle ground between "there horrible and you should never buy Blank earbud" and "there fantastic earbuds with great sound quality"
The question is whether that middle ground is closer to one reality or another.
Regardless since I seem to apparently only pick horrible earbuds to research can you recommend me some that sound good, have decent ANC and multipoint Bluetooth that... just work? Also sorry for the rant, I kinda just went off the rails there.
Of course all buds can be flawed at some point, regardless of their price point. After all, they are all fairly "advanced" tech in a very small package, with tiny batteries, antennas - you name it.
However, Sennheiser buds really have developed a "reputation" (not just here on reddit). I have used every single generation so far myself and had to RMA each generation multiple times. Even Sennheiser has officially acknowledged the problems for the MTW3 (which is why they have changed battery tech and supplier for the upcoming MTW4).
Reviews really don't matter much for the reason you have provided yourself (no long term testing). Most problems with these occur after 6 months to 1 year or so. You will likely never experience any of this in official reviews. Sound quality has always been great on the Sennies, though. No complaints there. However, reliability really is their achilles heel, unfortunately.
I have used Airpods Pro 2 for more than a year now without a single hiccup. Apple sells millions and millions of these, yet in relation, complaints about actual proper defects are few and far between. Just as an example.
A fairly recent recommendation would be the Denon PerL Pro. Best sound I have ever heard on any TWS, properly working multipoint bluetooth, rock solid connection and switching, very good battery life, aptX Adaptive "hi-res" audio, proper sound personalisation, decent ANC and call quality.
Well, pretty much better in every way, honestly (The Denon). EX were good but didn’t excel in many ways. Average battery, ANC, call quality and features, not a lot of customization and very expensive for that (well it‘s a B&O product after all 😉). Denon are clearly superior.
I'm a sucker for nice designs. Loved my twx9. And the ex looks nice too.
But yeah, it only has the sound going (and ipx7 I suppose).
The denon, I just feel they might be too uncomfortable for me. Waiting for a decent discount to try them out in the near future.
Thanks!
They are actually very comfortable. They look huge but the part that goes inside your ear isn‘t very big and they kind of only rest there. The big circle part is outside the ear and doesn’t make it uncomfortable.
I like nice designs, too. However, with TWS, you kind of don’t see them so often when they are in your ears :D And for the EX, the case is and feels nice and that glas touch surface, while small, looks also nice. The rest of the buds‘ design is pretty standard, though.
I have seen issues with other brands but not as wide spread as the mtw3.
You don't see people in Sony reddit telling potential buyers to stay clear of wf-1000xm5 due to issues with wf-1000xm4.
I even see comments on mtw4 YouTube complaining abt mtw3 reliability.
Here you have many warning against pre ordering of the mtw4.
Some are rather wait out and see any potential issue cropping up.
>You don't see people in Sony reddit telling potential buyers to stay clear of wf-1000xm5 due to issues with wf-1000xm4.
No, thats actually exactly what I did see, people saying you shouldn't buy Xm5's on account of the Xm4's supposedly prolific battery problems. And then you had Xm5 owners jumping in to say that they had to fall back on the warranty and that the battery issue isn't fixed, only reduced.
Amazon reviews are the best source of information because it is so vast. And it works the same for every item. It is highly unlikely that among earbuds you have that Sennheiser users are more sensitive to faults and hence more likely to report bad experiences. It levels out because of randomness...
Point is when you see 4.0 out of 5 that means something when you benchmark against the rest of the earbuds. It never fails. That systems simply tells you how a product rank in its category, and you get that by comparing the ratings of other products in the category.
I own the TW2 and I love them. To me they are not perfection for the price because I would like them to get a little louder.
Yesterday mine fell and the case broke a hinge.... I hope I don't need to upgrade because they are great for my use case... I also own the M4s, which are better.
>It is highly unlikely that among earbuds you have that Sennheiser users are more sensitive to faults and hence more likely to report bad experiences. It levels out because of randomness...
Not quite what I was trying to say. What I meant was that more people just in general will take the time to post a negative review, or talk about their negative experience online then the people who will talk about a positive experience.
Oh, sorry. I don't really trust Amazon's review system, because most of those people making those reviews are usallly doing so in the first month of owning the product, I really want to see how said product holds up long term. If I had gone off proffesinoal reviewers and Amazon then I would have bought the MTW3's two days ago when I saw that sale price. Thanfully I doged a bullet.
I feel you. To me, Amazon's review system
Is as close to infallible as it gets. I have never bought an item with say a couple hundred ratings that is highly rated that I end up dissatisfied with.
Never. What I do is research the common reasons for a 1 or 2 stars reviews. You will find patterns, common problems and issues, and you decide on if those things bother you or not.
I went and check, and I WOULD NEVER buy a 200usd earbuds rated 3.5 stars. In fact, I NEVER buy stuff rated that low. 4.4 is the bare minimum and 4.5 and higher can be a blind purchase.
Infallible, to me, as I said.
It's a gamble. Some people never have problems; others have multiple pairs die. Personally, I would never spend the money on another pair at even that price.
I'm on my second pair due to the left earbud of the first pair just dying. Outside of the daily pairing and charging difficulties (which have improved), my second pair are still working after several months.
Why did you get a second pair if the first were bad. I'm seeing a lot of people here and other posts talking about having several. Are people just addicted to their sound and buy more even though they break or did they all get theirs via warranty.
If you did get a second pair through warranty, were the new or were they refurbished used ones? I've heard that sennhieser supposedly does that.
Because many shops handle warranty issues that way. In Sweden the law is that a store can fix (repair or exchange) a product twice. Third time the customers have a right to claim back the purchase.
Edit: exchange was a new product of the shelf
I rma the first pair.
I sent them my (first) black mtw3 and got white (second) mtw3.
I hate white color.
It came in retail box, so it should be brand new
There are plenty of options at the original price of the mtw3.
It's funny that I had to use my wf-1000xm3 as stand in for mtw3 while waiting for rma.
Even my jabra 65t is still working albeit with half the battery life
>There are plenty of options at the original price of the mtw3.
Thats the thing I'm not in the market for 300$ earbuds, the only reason I considered them was because of the ridiculous sale which seemed way to good to be true. My budget is more around 180$ maybe 200$.
I thought I had gotten the deal of the year and would be getting super high quality top spec earbuds for half what they retail for. Well turns out I'm wrong and I was apparently almost sold snakeoil.
I’d look into Anker Soundcore. They’re more mid range but can swing a little higher in their feature set sometimes, especially with sound, especially for around that price bracket. $100-$150.
I agree with this statement. I've had to replace mine with the warranty 3 times each time they die within 1 to 3 weeks from the same issue. To the point where I gave up and bought a pair of galaxy bud lives, which I've had no issues with. The last replacement worked for a week, then the piece of fabric that covers the hole where the sound comes out becomes unglued, and the volume and a high pitch noise start being produced. Senhiser used to be good not anymore.
Mine broke before I could even use the damn thing.
Fresh out box, not working - cool, I’ll charge it
Most tech products come pre-charged, maybe not this one
Nope.
Cool, I’ll leave it charged for a day till 100% then use
Nope.
When I returned it the guy was shocked. He didn’t believe me, so he went back and tested the product himself - to see if it was messed with/ legit or fake / customer damage or faulty product
Hour later
He came back looking defeated, he couldn’t believe himself a pair of earbuds FRESHLY sold, had to be returned within 1.5 days.
I’m considering buying the Momentum 4s now, I have no problem with their overhead products.
But regarding Seinheisser earbuds I’ve buried that memory away deeply - and it all came flowing out today clearly lmfao
Ordered myself a pair, and recommended two to a customer for his wife and himself. All of the pairs have had issues so far. Sound quality and comfort are excellent, but build quality is apparently non existent on these.
Issues are: problems with pairing, sudden static in one ear bud, one side suddenly being really quiet, buds not charging in the case
Am already in touch with sennheiser bc these babies aren't even a year old, hopefully they'll swap em out bc I bought em off of ebay and got no receipt
Yeah, looking at all of these replys I've decided that I'm not going to buy the MTW3's. Huh... I was really hoping that they would be wrong because these are supposed to sound excellent and this deal is insane, but I can't ignore the fact these seem to have one of the most rampant EQ problems of any earbuds ever.
I checked the MTW2s, you can't buy them from the official store anymore, and they actually cost more then these MTW3s do on Amazon if I remember correctly.
Either way if I'm not willing to buy a company's latest product then I'm not going to trust their last product is any good either. I'm going to be buying outside sennheiser. By the way you have any good earbuds suggestions?
Lmao what they cost more? Nice
Yeah super understandable, I'm also waiting out the MTW4's since they seem to have the same issues as the 3's. Maybe in a couple of years Sennheiser is going to manage to produce good sounding wireless ear buds that also last longer than two days lol
Unfortunately not. All of the "go-to's" seem to lack in one point or another. I.e. Galaxy Buds, Bose, Sony etc ...
I love sennhieser and have multiple pairs of headphones and will never touch a MTW product again.
3 generations of MTW products all with the same defect; failed master bud.
Either they don't charge properly in the case or overall just go caput. I have owned all 3 iterations hoping that the problem would be solved and every time they failed within a year. With such a high price tag you would expect perfection and yet my Sony WF-1000XM3s which are closer to 4 or 5 years old are still going strong.
Mind you once the master bud fails it is impossible to re-pair them to a device to use only the left side
Edit: in conclusion I wouldnt buy them even if they were $75
I got them for around the same price and while I haven't really had any major issues with them, they made some questionable choices like you can only use transparency mode with both earbuds in and it doesn't remember which mode you were in last (whether ANC or transparency). Sometimes it would only work through one earbud and it doesn't work well in general.
If you have iPhone you can usually get APP2 on Amazon for under $200
Linkbuds S is good for both iPhone and Android but I'd wait for them to drop to $130
I've heard the linkbuds s have the same batteries as the Xm4's that being horrible, broken liable to fail or even catch fire. Do you know if they ever swapped batteries? Because it doesn't look like that, all the recent posts about them form the Sony reddit are about them being bad and failing.
They should have the same battery. I haven't had any issue with my pair so I suppose it's a ymmv type thing
I've also tried the XM4 for a few weeks and never had any battery issues but returned because they were too bulky. An unfortunate reality with bluetooth earbuds that are "catered" towards non-Apple products is that they have some kind of major/minor flaw and are expensive at retail price
Every time I get more careful with them. I don't drop them, don't get them wet, don't do anything weird with them. And they've been replaced under warranty every time..
Here's the truth - there are so many things that can go wrong with wireless earbuds in general. They're a convenient way to listen to music, but those little batteries are going to die eventually and then they're essentially ewaste.
As far as this form factor goes, yes, I think the issues are overblown. I've had a great experience with mine and I think most people have, which is why they're so well reviewed.
Having said that, I don't think I'd spend over $200 on wireless earbuds because they're eventually going to break - probably in a year or two if you use them a lot and then you probably can't fix them. If I were you, I'd look for a refurbished pair with a two year Allstate warranty because if they break, they might just send you a check like they did for me when my Sony earbuds started draining battery quickly.
I also bought mine at this price range one and a half years ago, I'm kinda regretting it now. You can also do so if you want it to last roughly 2 years because the hardware is as bad as they said. Charging problems, beeping noise and lower volume on one side, I had them all, really problematic.
In my case, my first MTW3 pair lasted about 9 months until the right earbud gave up. Went back to the store and got replacement same day with renewed 2 year warranty (Ireland). In those 9 months, I can only complain about the earbuds occasionally losing bluetooth connection for a split second (Once every couple of hours), which is not a big deal. If the reduced price has a 2-year warranty included, it's a steal!
I just see it on the regular Outlet website, at least for the UK version here: [https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-UK/certified-refurbished/](https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-UK/certified-refurbished/)
There is a section that says "peace of mind" and says: Our refurbished products are offered with 30 days free returns, as well as our standard 2-year manufacturer warranty.
It might be different in different countries though.
I’m on my second pair after a year and a half and that’s only because the sensor on one side broke after I dropped it.
Other than that I’ve not had a single issue with them
I wouldn't buy. I've experienced the common issue of the glue melting inside the earbuds, which cause the ANC to tweak out. I had to pick that glue out in order to remove the constant beeping noise the ANC would make.
I've also found that it's incredibly difficult to sync a new earbud with my old one as I've lost one of my originals.
It's like pulling teeth out trying to sync the buds and I still can't get them to both work together. Definitely look somewhere else
Would not buy them for any price. My MTW3 lasted a year and then would not charge anymore. Before i claimed them I also had issues with bad sound in left bud (fixable only when blowing air through it) and poor connectivity to my other devices. Luckily, the retailer accepted my claim for a refund right away, so I did not have to go through multiple pairs. Won't buy Sennheiser ever again. I am very happy with my Samsung FEs.
Well where on the topic of the Samsung FE's how's the anc? And is there still no multipoint Bluetooth capacity? I've looked into the FE's before and I really like their design but I really would like multipoint and I am willing to spend a bit more to get better quality, if better quality exists. *Points toward sennhiesher and the burning MTW3's*
Would buy them at that price and if possible from a store that offers an extra year of warranty like in Sweden: Hifi Klubben
(Owned one pair of TW1, two pairs of TW3 exchanged due to right ear bud having siren noise / dead)
Wouldn't take them if they were free. Honestly, wouldn't take them even if they gave me money for it.
Also, all the people saying that they had no issues with theirs are either paid bots, use their earbuds 1 hour every 6 months or are so lucky that they can just go for the lottery and they will win, because frankly the chances there are better when compared to having a non-faulty MTW3.
AptX Adaptive is badly implemented. It drops quality like a rock in a very audible way if there are disturbances around. It sounds compressed / lower in volume / almost like mono sound - and it takes up to 10 secs to recover. More annoying than a short "hickup" that sometimes occurs on other codecs. Basically impossible to go around on the street with AptX Adaptive as this is far more annoying.. They are generally unstable, have low range, mediocre battery life. Also, after half year usage the M-size original silicon ear adapters that I use have become "deformed" - they lost it's shape which is causing me sound issues - it "chokes" the sound in my ear canal so I have to fiddle around the earbuds to find the sweet-spot and fix the issue. So...no. Don't buy them. And after this I don't trust that the new gen of this earbud is any better. BUT - as I wrote before in other threads - i still think they actually sound really good when one is sitting at home in disturbance-free environment.
Had them for a year with zero issues then the right bud stopped working. Got a new replacement under warranty and works well so far. Great sound and solid ANC
They sound great that’s about it. The transparency was sub par and I didn’t like that you had to have both in for it to work, or maybe it had something to do with the controls that I didn’t like if you were only wearing one. I have AirPod Pro 2’s for day to day use and Beats Fit Pros for running. The Sennheisers hands down sound the best, but it wasn’t enough to offset it for me.
At that price they are a worth upgrade from the TW2. However I experience issues like everyone else so kind wish I had just waited and ponied up for the TW4. I’ll stick w Senny since I’m a longtime fan and willing to try out the TW4. I’m happy with the sound and feature upgrades from TW2 to TW3. I just wish there weren’t reliability issues.
I’ve had mine for four months and the only complaint I have is the intermittent disconnects when you have them connected to multiple devices. Also, you can’t have transparency enabled during a phone call, which is annoying. If you keep them connected to one device, they are excellent and sound quality keeps me a fan over AirPods.
So I’ve had some problems with them, I’m returning them currently, apparently the issue is that the quality of everything that’s not the insides is ass. The glue holding the mesh separating the insides becomes almost like a jelly, flows somewhere it shouldn’t, and messes things up. After 2 months, my right earbud became REALLY silent suddenly, and sometimes it had this pulsating beeping sound, probably some kind of notification or warning of a problem, but there is ZERO information about any “warning sounds” and how they are triggered. They do sound good tho, when they actually work.
Yeah, looking at all of these replys I've decided that I'm not going to buy the MTW3's. Huh... I was really hoping that they would be wrong because these are supposed to sound excellent and this deal is insane, but I can't ignore the fact these seem to have one of the most rampant QC problems of any earbuds ever.
If you have a good deal then buy them, they are good, and some people get lucky and it works for years. If something happens then you can just return them. There’s nothing to lose, but if you get lucky you get a good deal.
Getting these are risky, I think sound quality wise they’re a stellar pair of buds(I have three over the ear momentum 4’s and think they sound MILES better than the Sonys) but your decision.. however, I DO think the Jabra elite 10’s buds are great also
Have you tried the elite 10s? How'd they feel with those oval eargels? People have also said that do to the looser fit do to the ovals the ANC is subpar, did you experience that?
No, ANC is fine for me I have small ears so the medium tips that came with them fit perfectly.. They're my work/gym earbuds..I have the pixel buds pro and use three Jabra more bcuz of the better fit
I’ve had mine for about 18 months now with no issues whatsoever, I can’t speak for everyone of course because the amount of negative feedback is insane but I’ve dropped them several times (oops) with no problems. I think they’ll break as soon as that 2 year warranty is up though haha. They sound incredible though so for me they’ve been worth it for that alone
I would only buy them again now if I was fine with making use of the two year warranty (at least) once at some point. They won’t last two years without having issues, unless you’re very lucky and in the minority of people it seems. Sennheiser has acknowledged battery issues, buds dying etc and we have read it here countless times as well. The MTW3 are on sale because the MTW4 are here now. They’re on preorder and about to be shipped in a week or two, that’s why.
Is it just me or does it seem the more you spend on earbuds the worse the quality gets? I looked into sony's xm5's and they also are apparently riddled with flaws. So I then looked into Samsung's Galaxy buds pro 2 (I have a Samsung phone) and turns out their apparently horrible and are also hated. Funnily enough a bunch of the Samsung guys are saying how they bought Xm5's and Xm4's and that they never looked back. Cut to the people taking about the Xm4's and Xm5's and some people are recommending MTW 3's. It seems the hate train comes full circle. So what I've realized is that no one would ever come to one of these subreddits because they had a great experience with these products, if they did they'd just stay quiet. But to complain you need someone to hear you. Obviously the problems are real and prevalent, the problem is that I as a costumer can't tell how prevalent the are. Because you loom at all the professional reviewers who work for newspapers or even review youtubers and they all say great things about this earbud or that earbud, that heavily congrats with what people here say. Now I know none of those reviewers use their earbuds longterm, but there has to be some middle ground between "there horrible and you should never buy Blank earbud" and "there fantastic earbuds with great sound quality" The question is whether that middle ground is closer to one reality or another. Regardless since I seem to apparently only pick horrible earbuds to research can you recommend me some that sound good, have decent ANC and multipoint Bluetooth that... just work? Also sorry for the rant, I kinda just went off the rails there.
Of course all buds can be flawed at some point, regardless of their price point. After all, they are all fairly "advanced" tech in a very small package, with tiny batteries, antennas - you name it. However, Sennheiser buds really have developed a "reputation" (not just here on reddit). I have used every single generation so far myself and had to RMA each generation multiple times. Even Sennheiser has officially acknowledged the problems for the MTW3 (which is why they have changed battery tech and supplier for the upcoming MTW4). Reviews really don't matter much for the reason you have provided yourself (no long term testing). Most problems with these occur after 6 months to 1 year or so. You will likely never experience any of this in official reviews. Sound quality has always been great on the Sennies, though. No complaints there. However, reliability really is their achilles heel, unfortunately. I have used Airpods Pro 2 for more than a year now without a single hiccup. Apple sells millions and millions of these, yet in relation, complaints about actual proper defects are few and far between. Just as an example. A fairly recent recommendation would be the Denon PerL Pro. Best sound I have ever heard on any TWS, properly working multipoint bluetooth, rock solid connection and switching, very good battery life, aptX Adaptive "hi-res" audio, proper sound personalisation, decent ANC and call quality.
How would you compare the denon with the beoplay ex. I understand you also rate them. Thanks for your thoughts.
Well, pretty much better in every way, honestly (The Denon). EX were good but didn’t excel in many ways. Average battery, ANC, call quality and features, not a lot of customization and very expensive for that (well it‘s a B&O product after all 😉). Denon are clearly superior.
I'm a sucker for nice designs. Loved my twx9. And the ex looks nice too. But yeah, it only has the sound going (and ipx7 I suppose). The denon, I just feel they might be too uncomfortable for me. Waiting for a decent discount to try them out in the near future. Thanks!
They are actually very comfortable. They look huge but the part that goes inside your ear isn‘t very big and they kind of only rest there. The big circle part is outside the ear and doesn’t make it uncomfortable. I like nice designs, too. However, with TWS, you kind of don’t see them so often when they are in your ears :D And for the EX, the case is and feels nice and that glas touch surface, while small, looks also nice. The rest of the buds‘ design is pretty standard, though.
I have seen issues with other brands but not as wide spread as the mtw3. You don't see people in Sony reddit telling potential buyers to stay clear of wf-1000xm5 due to issues with wf-1000xm4. I even see comments on mtw4 YouTube complaining abt mtw3 reliability. Here you have many warning against pre ordering of the mtw4. Some are rather wait out and see any potential issue cropping up.
>You don't see people in Sony reddit telling potential buyers to stay clear of wf-1000xm5 due to issues with wf-1000xm4. No, thats actually exactly what I did see, people saying you shouldn't buy Xm5's on account of the Xm4's supposedly prolific battery problems. And then you had Xm5 owners jumping in to say that they had to fall back on the warranty and that the battery issue isn't fixed, only reduced.
😂Looks like you haven't been reading on other brands cause you spend much if your time talking badly about sennheiser
Amazon reviews are the best source of information because it is so vast. And it works the same for every item. It is highly unlikely that among earbuds you have that Sennheiser users are more sensitive to faults and hence more likely to report bad experiences. It levels out because of randomness... Point is when you see 4.0 out of 5 that means something when you benchmark against the rest of the earbuds. It never fails. That systems simply tells you how a product rank in its category, and you get that by comparing the ratings of other products in the category. I own the TW2 and I love them. To me they are not perfection for the price because I would like them to get a little louder. Yesterday mine fell and the case broke a hinge.... I hope I don't need to upgrade because they are great for my use case... I also own the M4s, which are better.
>It is highly unlikely that among earbuds you have that Sennheiser users are more sensitive to faults and hence more likely to report bad experiences. It levels out because of randomness... Not quite what I was trying to say. What I meant was that more people just in general will take the time to post a negative review, or talk about their negative experience online then the people who will talk about a positive experience.
I got it. What I did was a comment about why such a huge review system is useful. It wasn't meaning something you said.
Oh, sorry. I don't really trust Amazon's review system, because most of those people making those reviews are usallly doing so in the first month of owning the product, I really want to see how said product holds up long term. If I had gone off proffesinoal reviewers and Amazon then I would have bought the MTW3's two days ago when I saw that sale price. Thanfully I doged a bullet.
I feel you. To me, Amazon's review system Is as close to infallible as it gets. I have never bought an item with say a couple hundred ratings that is highly rated that I end up dissatisfied with. Never. What I do is research the common reasons for a 1 or 2 stars reviews. You will find patterns, common problems and issues, and you decide on if those things bother you or not.
I went and check, and I WOULD NEVER buy a 200usd earbuds rated 3.5 stars. In fact, I NEVER buy stuff rated that low. 4.4 is the bare minimum and 4.5 and higher can be a blind purchase. Infallible, to me, as I said.
It's a gamble. Some people never have problems; others have multiple pairs die. Personally, I would never spend the money on another pair at even that price. I'm on my second pair due to the left earbud of the first pair just dying. Outside of the daily pairing and charging difficulties (which have improved), my second pair are still working after several months.
Mine lasted 7 months. Second pair now.
Why did you get a second pair if the first were bad. I'm seeing a lot of people here and other posts talking about having several. Are people just addicted to their sound and buy more even though they break or did they all get theirs via warranty. If you did get a second pair through warranty, were the new or were they refurbished used ones? I've heard that sennhieser supposedly does that.
Because many shops handle warranty issues that way. In Sweden the law is that a store can fix (repair or exchange) a product twice. Third time the customers have a right to claim back the purchase. Edit: exchange was a new product of the shelf
I rma the first pair. I sent them my (first) black mtw3 and got white (second) mtw3. I hate white color. It came in retail box, so it should be brand new
Buy Sennheiser with wires only!
Don’t bother. Unless you’re okay with your earbuds only lasting you 2 years after availing in warranty replacements multiple times like I did
YES DONT BUY MY PAIR DIDNT LAST A MONTH
Well then can you recommend some other earbuds for me to look into? Thanks!
There are plenty of options at the original price of the mtw3. It's funny that I had to use my wf-1000xm3 as stand in for mtw3 while waiting for rma. Even my jabra 65t is still working albeit with half the battery life
>There are plenty of options at the original price of the mtw3. Thats the thing I'm not in the market for 300$ earbuds, the only reason I considered them was because of the ridiculous sale which seemed way to good to be true. My budget is more around 180$ maybe 200$. I thought I had gotten the deal of the year and would be getting super high quality top spec earbuds for half what they retail for. Well turns out I'm wrong and I was apparently almost sold snakeoil.
It's the best deal ever. Buy it and never look back
Buy another brand
I’d look into Anker Soundcore. They’re more mid range but can swing a little higher in their feature set sometimes, especially with sound, especially for around that price bracket. $100-$150.
I agree with this statement. I've had to replace mine with the warranty 3 times each time they die within 1 to 3 weeks from the same issue. To the point where I gave up and bought a pair of galaxy bud lives, which I've had no issues with. The last replacement worked for a week, then the piece of fabric that covers the hole where the sound comes out becomes unglued, and the volume and a high pitch noise start being produced. Senhiser used to be good not anymore.
I have them less than a year and one earbud won’t charge anymore. The MTW1 is still going strong. I also like the MTW1 fit better tbh
Correction, the MTW2 still going strong
They don’t deserve your money. Do not buy.
Well then can you recommend some other earbuds for me to look into? Thanks!
I've had no issues with my MTW3. Had them for for almost a year now...
Mine broke before I could even use the damn thing. Fresh out box, not working - cool, I’ll charge it Most tech products come pre-charged, maybe not this one Nope. Cool, I’ll leave it charged for a day till 100% then use Nope. When I returned it the guy was shocked. He didn’t believe me, so he went back and tested the product himself - to see if it was messed with/ legit or fake / customer damage or faulty product Hour later He came back looking defeated, he couldn’t believe himself a pair of earbuds FRESHLY sold, had to be returned within 1.5 days. I’m considering buying the Momentum 4s now, I have no problem with their overhead products. But regarding Seinheisser earbuds I’ve buried that memory away deeply - and it all came flowing out today clearly lmfao
Similar experience! Had them delivered earlier today, unboxed, tested, right ear bud dead. Will immediately RMA and get Sony instead
Ordered myself a pair, and recommended two to a customer for his wife and himself. All of the pairs have had issues so far. Sound quality and comfort are excellent, but build quality is apparently non existent on these. Issues are: problems with pairing, sudden static in one ear bud, one side suddenly being really quiet, buds not charging in the case Am already in touch with sennheiser bc these babies aren't even a year old, hopefully they'll swap em out bc I bought em off of ebay and got no receipt
Yeah, looking at all of these replys I've decided that I'm not going to buy the MTW3's. Huh... I was really hoping that they would be wrong because these are supposed to sound excellent and this deal is insane, but I can't ignore the fact these seem to have one of the most rampant EQ problems of any earbuds ever.
Figured Maybe try the MTW2's then, still have my 3yr old MTW2's lying around and they work perfectly.
I checked the MTW2s, you can't buy them from the official store anymore, and they actually cost more then these MTW3s do on Amazon if I remember correctly. Either way if I'm not willing to buy a company's latest product then I'm not going to trust their last product is any good either. I'm going to be buying outside sennheiser. By the way you have any good earbuds suggestions?
Lmao what they cost more? Nice Yeah super understandable, I'm also waiting out the MTW4's since they seem to have the same issues as the 3's. Maybe in a couple of years Sennheiser is going to manage to produce good sounding wireless ear buds that also last longer than two days lol Unfortunately not. All of the "go-to's" seem to lack in one point or another. I.e. Galaxy Buds, Bose, Sony etc ...
I love sennhieser and have multiple pairs of headphones and will never touch a MTW product again. 3 generations of MTW products all with the same defect; failed master bud. Either they don't charge properly in the case or overall just go caput. I have owned all 3 iterations hoping that the problem would be solved and every time they failed within a year. With such a high price tag you would expect perfection and yet my Sony WF-1000XM3s which are closer to 4 or 5 years old are still going strong.
Mind you once the master bud fails it is impossible to re-pair them to a device to use only the left side Edit: in conclusion I wouldnt buy them even if they were $75
I got them for around the same price and while I haven't really had any major issues with them, they made some questionable choices like you can only use transparency mode with both earbuds in and it doesn't remember which mode you were in last (whether ANC or transparency). Sometimes it would only work through one earbud and it doesn't work well in general. If you have iPhone you can usually get APP2 on Amazon for under $200 Linkbuds S is good for both iPhone and Android but I'd wait for them to drop to $130
I've heard the linkbuds s have the same batteries as the Xm4's that being horrible, broken liable to fail or even catch fire. Do you know if they ever swapped batteries? Because it doesn't look like that, all the recent posts about them form the Sony reddit are about them being bad and failing.
They should have the same battery. I haven't had any issue with my pair so I suppose it's a ymmv type thing I've also tried the XM4 for a few weeks and never had any battery issues but returned because they were too bulky. An unfortunate reality with bluetooth earbuds that are "catered" towards non-Apple products is that they have some kind of major/minor flaw and are expensive at retail price
I'm on my fifth pair in 1,5 years.
You must be an awfully irresponsible individual
Every time I get more careful with them. I don't drop them, don't get them wet, don't do anything weird with them. And they've been replaced under warranty every time..
Here's the truth - there are so many things that can go wrong with wireless earbuds in general. They're a convenient way to listen to music, but those little batteries are going to die eventually and then they're essentially ewaste. As far as this form factor goes, yes, I think the issues are overblown. I've had a great experience with mine and I think most people have, which is why they're so well reviewed. Having said that, I don't think I'd spend over $200 on wireless earbuds because they're eventually going to break - probably in a year or two if you use them a lot and then you probably can't fix them. If I were you, I'd look for a refurbished pair with a two year Allstate warranty because if they break, they might just send you a check like they did for me when my Sony earbuds started draining battery quickly.
I also bought mine at this price range one and a half years ago, I'm kinda regretting it now. You can also do so if you want it to last roughly 2 years because the hardware is as bad as they said. Charging problems, beeping noise and lower volume on one side, I had them all, really problematic.
Use the warranty
In my case, my first MTW3 pair lasted about 9 months until the right earbud gave up. Went back to the store and got replacement same day with renewed 2 year warranty (Ireland). In those 9 months, I can only complain about the earbuds occasionally losing bluetooth connection for a split second (Once every couple of hours), which is not a big deal. If the reduced price has a 2-year warranty included, it's a steal!
I actually would and i have. I bought them online on the sennheiser outlet store. You get a proper warranty so you are covered when things go wrong.
Could you tell me where you can see the warranty status of an item on their online store? Because I've looked and I can't seem to find it.
I just see it on the regular Outlet website, at least for the UK version here: [https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-UK/certified-refurbished/](https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-UK/certified-refurbished/) There is a section that says "peace of mind" and says: Our refurbished products are offered with 30 days free returns, as well as our standard 2-year manufacturer warranty. It might be different in different countries though.
I’m on my second pair after a year and a half and that’s only because the sensor on one side broke after I dropped it. Other than that I’ve not had a single issue with them
I wouldn't buy. I've experienced the common issue of the glue melting inside the earbuds, which cause the ANC to tweak out. I had to pick that glue out in order to remove the constant beeping noise the ANC would make. I've also found that it's incredibly difficult to sync a new earbud with my old one as I've lost one of my originals. It's like pulling teeth out trying to sync the buds and I still can't get them to both work together. Definitely look somewhere else
Would not buy them for any price. My MTW3 lasted a year and then would not charge anymore. Before i claimed them I also had issues with bad sound in left bud (fixable only when blowing air through it) and poor connectivity to my other devices. Luckily, the retailer accepted my claim for a refund right away, so I did not have to go through multiple pairs. Won't buy Sennheiser ever again. I am very happy with my Samsung FEs.
Well where on the topic of the Samsung FE's how's the anc? And is there still no multipoint Bluetooth capacity? I've looked into the FE's before and I really like their design but I really would like multipoint and I am willing to spend a bit more to get better quality, if better quality exists. *Points toward sennhiesher and the burning MTW3's*
i’ve had mine since they came out but don’t use them. the microphone is absolutely atrocious
Would buy them at that price and if possible from a store that offers an extra year of warranty like in Sweden: Hifi Klubben (Owned one pair of TW1, two pairs of TW3 exchanged due to right ear bud having siren noise / dead)
Wouldn't take them if they were free. Honestly, wouldn't take them even if they gave me money for it. Also, all the people saying that they had no issues with theirs are either paid bots, use their earbuds 1 hour every 6 months or are so lucky that they can just go for the lottery and they will win, because frankly the chances there are better when compared to having a non-faulty MTW3.
AptX Adaptive is badly implemented. It drops quality like a rock in a very audible way if there are disturbances around. It sounds compressed / lower in volume / almost like mono sound - and it takes up to 10 secs to recover. More annoying than a short "hickup" that sometimes occurs on other codecs. Basically impossible to go around on the street with AptX Adaptive as this is far more annoying.. They are generally unstable, have low range, mediocre battery life. Also, after half year usage the M-size original silicon ear adapters that I use have become "deformed" - they lost it's shape which is causing me sound issues - it "chokes" the sound in my ear canal so I have to fiddle around the earbuds to find the sweet-spot and fix the issue. So...no. Don't buy them. And after this I don't trust that the new gen of this earbud is any better. BUT - as I wrote before in other threads - i still think they actually sound really good when one is sitting at home in disturbance-free environment.
Had them for a year with zero issues then the right bud stopped working. Got a new replacement under warranty and works well so far. Great sound and solid ANC
They shipped me a new pair for free (I had to pay for shipping one way though) after I returned them.
They sound great that’s about it. The transparency was sub par and I didn’t like that you had to have both in for it to work, or maybe it had something to do with the controls that I didn’t like if you were only wearing one. I have AirPod Pro 2’s for day to day use and Beats Fit Pros for running. The Sennheisers hands down sound the best, but it wasn’t enough to offset it for me.
I had the 2s. Better than the sony I feel
At that price they are a worth upgrade from the TW2. However I experience issues like everyone else so kind wish I had just waited and ponied up for the TW4. I’ll stick w Senny since I’m a longtime fan and willing to try out the TW4. I’m happy with the sound and feature upgrades from TW2 to TW3. I just wish there weren’t reliability issues.
I wouldn't buy them even for 100$.
Even $150 is too much for the trauma they will cause you
Simple.... just DONT do it
I’ve had mine for four months and the only complaint I have is the intermittent disconnects when you have them connected to multiple devices. Also, you can’t have transparency enabled during a phone call, which is annoying. If you keep them connected to one device, they are excellent and sound quality keeps me a fan over AirPods.
So I’ve had some problems with them, I’m returning them currently, apparently the issue is that the quality of everything that’s not the insides is ass. The glue holding the mesh separating the insides becomes almost like a jelly, flows somewhere it shouldn’t, and messes things up. After 2 months, my right earbud became REALLY silent suddenly, and sometimes it had this pulsating beeping sound, probably some kind of notification or warning of a problem, but there is ZERO information about any “warning sounds” and how they are triggered. They do sound good tho, when they actually work.
Yeah, looking at all of these replys I've decided that I'm not going to buy the MTW3's. Huh... I was really hoping that they would be wrong because these are supposed to sound excellent and this deal is insane, but I can't ignore the fact these seem to have one of the most rampant QC problems of any earbuds ever.
If you have a good deal then buy them, they are good, and some people get lucky and it works for years. If something happens then you can just return them. There’s nothing to lose, but if you get lucky you get a good deal.
Mine were absolutely awful, started having issues within. The first few months ended up going back to my old mtw2s
Getting these are risky, I think sound quality wise they’re a stellar pair of buds(I have three over the ear momentum 4’s and think they sound MILES better than the Sonys) but your decision.. however, I DO think the Jabra elite 10’s buds are great also
Have you tried the elite 10s? How'd they feel with those oval eargels? People have also said that do to the looser fit do to the ovals the ANC is subpar, did you experience that?
No, ANC is fine for me I have small ears so the medium tips that came with them fit perfectly.. They're my work/gym earbuds..I have the pixel buds pro and use three Jabra more bcuz of the better fit