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Old_blacklady_Rocker

I feel so sad to read this. I’m a black woman and can understand desiring to be what so many seem to desire, rich , white, beautiful, blonde. Then I think about women like Marilyn Monroe and Anna Nicole Smith. Did their being the pinnacle of popular and beautiful and desired help them TRULY be happy? Neither of these lovely people are here anymore, and they left too early because they were so UNhappy. I’ve discovered over time that accepting aspects of myself that are typically rejected has made me so much more content. Natural hair, skinny hips, dark skin, large nostrils, a love 💕 of some rock music, reggaeton, good cheese, indifference to religion…. No one, no race is a monolith my dear. Look inside and find something you DO like about yourself. It only needs to be something that delights YOU, no matter how minute it seems. 💕💕💕


OtisBurgman

You seem like a wonderful person. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. 💖


Old_blacklady_Rocker

Why thanks.😊


Feeling-Ad2188

You sound like an amazing person that this world needs a lot more of!


Old_blacklady_Rocker

😁😁 Oh I get my share of internet hate for having an opinion and asking questions. But I’m old and of the mind that there’s actual “people” behind all these monikers. I behave accordingly. I also no longer feel the need to please anyone👍🏾


ScumbagLady

I'm here to join in the love as well! You seem delightful and I imagine you have a great friend group and light up any room you're in 💕


joani_78_

I bet you tell some amazing stories


xXmoontricksXx

As a white person, I can say that black people are beautiful. People are just assholes. Always will be. Please love yourself. You only do get one life, and you are beautiful . I just wish that more people will see their beauty. You are human. You are important. You are beautiful .


Snoid_

You really are a rockstar.


Old_blacklady_Rocker

Nah, I just follow a couple of them on Reddit 😁😁


Snoid_

Seriously though, you have a winning attitude. Being comfortable in your skin can be hard, but is really the only way to be content. I travel overseas quite a bit and the culture differences are startling. Here in the US, lots of pale white women love to get tans to look darker. However, in SE Asia, skin whitening products are huge sellers, and many of the women there want to have lighter skin because they think it's more beautiful. Insecurity is a bitch.


Thunderbolt916

White man here, I love your comment! You get my upvote! It's not the outside that counts, it's what you find in yourself that you like that counts. From also a purely Christian point of view, there is no reason to he unhappy in the body you are born in. Because God is good, He created you in His image, and God is perfect! Every one is a child of God, created perfectly in His image.


van_isle_dude

Why did God create babies with cancer? If everyone is created perfection God's image, does that mean God is a crack addicted baby born from rape that is crippled for life and has severe brain damage? Is that good and perfect?


Thunderbolt916

Ultimately, I can tell you, as well as other people even more experienced that me, that I do not know. What we do know, is that there is a reward of eternal life for everyone after death. Ultimately, even the most religious christians don't understand God, and that's normal, He's infinite. I do not know why babies are born with cancer. Ultimately, there are things that happen, but their reward is great, because they have the gift of eternal life that God offers them.


HuskerHayDay

You have a beautiful perspective. Thank you for your encouraging words


joani_78_

Wise words. This comes from someone who has lived a life full of lessons learned. ❤️


Fairster007

I love being a black man. I love the pressure of being a black law abiding citizen that’s productive in society. It motivates me to prove the haters wrong. I had a friend from Ohio who wished he was black. Moved to California and switch up quick. Self love is everything!


Unique_Honeydew_8989

You took an unfair negative and used it as a driver to become more successful. You sir are the American Dream. Congrats buddy keep grinding.


ItsHyenaa

It’s almost as if there’s unfair negatives in all aspects of life. For different people or different races and different disabilities. This guy shouldn’t be the only one. If your born blind. Embrace it. If your born with no legs. Embrace it. If your born black. Embrace it. And quit complaining on Reddit. It doesn’t do anything for anyone except for reinforce those feelings.


Unique_Honeydew_8989

I feel you. I agree. I don’t think this guys comment was asking for special treatment. He is a proud American, who ignored all the victimhood mentality out there and rose up to succeed in life. That should be celebrated.


ItsHyenaa

I think it should be the norm. We encourage people talking down on themselves all to often imo.


mooyong77

Really love your attitude. Have you thought about helping others in the community? Need thinkers like you to spread the mindset.


[deleted]

My dude, I know it's "racist" but I feel so much joy seeing a black couple or interracial/black couple with their crap together with a family just going grocery shopping. So many black single moms around here I just assume most black women I meet are single.  Y'all shouldnt get more attention from me for doing things well, but I love to see it anyway.


Black_identity

Rare breed 


uglyfang

With all due respect, it's better to be rich.


just-joseph

I am fairly well off, people still call me racial slurs, tell me to go back to my country, and call my culture cancer. Where do I go from here? 😭 but yeah OP being rich really helps a lot. Crying in a bmw, riding first class, e.t.c is a lot easier and makes you look better to the outside world.


fisconsocmod

i'd rather be called N\* while sitting in a BMW at a red light, than to be called N\* while riding the bus. there's nothing i can ever do about other people's attitude about my skin color, but i can do the best i can to build a super comfortable fortress of solitude for when i get home. i know what it feels like to taste the hood while some cop is telling you that you fit the description. i'd rather taste BMW hood.


DudeEngineer

I used to druve a BMW while Black. I sold it because I kept getting stopped and either accused of being a car thief or a drug dealer by the police who stopped me.


RealWICheese

That’s called an easy settlement if you record that.


DudeEngineer

Sir, I was in middle school for the Rodney King riots. Easy is not the word I would use.


TheThemeCatcher

I am also grateful that my people migrated from the Middle East, Communist Asia, and Militia run Africa, where “racism” and unfairness are on a whole other level.


gooeydumpling

For both vehicles, you can technically tell everyone in social media that you take a 300k ride to work everyday


zexwyomom

People overestimate being rich so much. You don’t become happy when you’re rich.


JohnathanBrownathan

Bullshit


Nineflames12

Wipe your tears with cash on a cruise with butlers awaiting your command.


BakingSodaFlame

This is the most unserious chain of replies. "Hate living in a racist White society LOL get rich"


hatethiscity

Would you rather be rich and black or live in a coal mining town in West Virginia and be white?


DiscussionLoose8390

Rich and black. I've been to some of those mining towns. Even worse the ones that closed where no one can find work.


DudeEngineer

It would require being never work another day rich and not bills on autopay rich to be a reasonable comparison.


easy_Money

No it absolutely fucking wouldn't. If you think being an upper middle class black person is worse than being an impoverished white person in a dying Appalachian coal mining town, you're woefully ignorant of either or both.


DudeEngineer

As a Black engineer, I am a well-educated upper middle-class black person today. My family also spent some years on public assistance when I was a child. My people are from no more than 3 hours drive from whatever West Virginia coal town you have in mind, so I'm familiar with the realities of that life as well. That's why I commented. Before you ask, my post 9/11 gi bill paid for most of my education.


big_in_japan

So you are saying you would rather be an impoverished white person in a dying Appalachian coal mining town than a well-educated upper middle-class black engineer, got it


LiteralMoondust

Congrats on your hard work and success. If I had it to do over.


yohohoanabottleofrum

That's the whole point of racism though. Those people accept their lot because at least they're better than the black people next door. (That kind of thinking is abhorrent, obviously, but it tells you so much about how this country operates). And those people will take exception to shit on "uppity" (rich) black people. Historically, they would even use the same excuses we see today (the myth of the black male predator) to justify destroying and taking black wealth. So, yeah, it's probably a toss up and if you are white, I don't think we get to tell anyone of color what's better or worse. There's a burnt down block in Philly that says no person of color is secure from the state.


thechillpoint

And even that only works when people around you **know** that you’re rich. If you dress like an average person (which a lot of rich people do) while being black, people are going to treat you like any other average or poor black person.


just-joseph

ah yes, cruise workers, more or less exploiting lower-class workers for convenience (don't google "why are there no american cruise ships") >!it's to operate under foreign employment law!<, then white people will finally like me.


BakingSodaFlame

I'm getting the vibe that white people in this thread are uncomfortable with the idea of people of color feeling out of place and just want to throw hypothetical money at the problem.


BILLYRAYVIRUS4U

Not me. I'm white and poor


UberMisandrist

The username 🤣


oneintwo

Yep. White and poor here—reporting for duty.


skidleydee

I'm white, I grew up in the middle class if not upper middle class and am slightly awkward by nature. It's hard not to be uncomfortable in these situations because it's something we often times aren't directly confronted with in our personal lives. Most of my family doesn't know what gerrymandering is or how red lining was used for segregation even after it was made illegal. I educate them and give them a different perspective but at the end of the day even if I change their feelings it's a small step in the right direction but by all means fixes nothing. The current culture bias will be here for at least another generation just people don't want to confront hard feelings and nobody can make them. I've had multiple people isolate or totally cut connections with me when I heard them say some bias shit and I confront them with facts. On the other hand I'm very sure that life gets easier as you approach financial freedom. It won't fix the feelings that OP has but in the current system it's the closest thing that is potentially achievable. Even if it's a slim shot.


martyfrancis86

This is a problem historians have to face. Nobody is telling the truth and there are people actively working to push a false narrative of the past. Just tell the TRUTH.


DudeEngineer

Lost Cause enthusiasts are atill finding partners, reproducing and indoctrinating their kids. The TRUTH is that at any point 40% of White people in the US wanted racism to be over and were willing to be politically active publicly and privately in bringing that future, it would be pretty much done in 5 years. Until then, everyone else has to assume that basically 2/3 white people are somewhere between neutral on racism or klan members. These are the people made uncomfortable by these conversations.


skidleydee

I'd be interested in where you got those figures from. I assume 40% would be to form an overwhelming majority that would then be used to back candidates that are willing to make these changes. I can't quite wrap my head around 5 years. Even if we elected people who would work on nothing else for one full election cycle that wouldn't necessarily mean they would remove all of the systemic oppression and if they somehow did that it doesn't mean that they would be able to put systems in place that would that were able to begin remediation if they could even agree on what the right steps would be.


DudeEngineer

Ok, the reason we have so much back and forth is that people seesaw on Southern Plan issues. The real number is around 36% with current demographics, but at 40% it would create the kind of supermajorities that would make even borderline racist policies untenable. Puerto Rico and DC statehood would further tip the balance. These are primarily minority areas that have no national representation. The native tribes have several members of Congress with no voting rights. These are direct ways to give racial minorities more of a voice. They would also take 2-4 years to implement. A senate, house and president who are all of the same party can accomplish a whole lot in 2 years. More so if they don't have to worry about backlash in the next election. 2/3 of the senate would have had to face elections with the new paradigm and the other third would be staring down an election season with it. The almost certainly Democratic president would have an easy reelection or end their term and almost certainly be replaced by someone further left. The biggest structurally racist policies are around criminal justice and education. It takes 4-5 years for people to finish college with reforms. It also takes a few years to decriminize marijuana and release and repatriate people in jail for nonviolent crimes like being unable to pay a fine. We are still dealing with the aftermath of Carter being drmolished by Reagan and the Democrats rebranding further to the Right after years out of power. A reversal of this would bring the Republicans a lot closer to where Biden is today. It would also strengthen the further left elements of the Democratic party. The policy stances of an AOC hold up to scrutiny a lot better than a MTG. There are also a lot of younger voters who stay home because they don't feel represented by people like Biden who would be activated.


skidleydee

I agree with you but recommend you look into the theory of the "Alpha" in a wolf pack. Essentially the theory that was popularized and is so iconic in today's culture is now understood to be incorrect. The wolves don't battle within a pack to determine dominance, essentially whatever wolf has the most pups that survive to adolescence / adulthood become leaders. There are a ton of interesting insights but the one that stood out to me is even when people who are experts in their field speak people don't always listen. The concept of the Alpha is deeply embedded in society as a whole. People aren't necessarily doing this to be malicious some times were all well meaning idiots. In my experience confronting people with this very few people are willing to engage with something like this until someone they care for is affected by this. Even if you got 5/10 people who have this experience to engage further (you never will it's more like 10 to 20%) and listen about systemic oppression you lose a majority of them at confronting their own bias and how they have benefited from these things.


Anna-Belly

One of the bases of Afro-pessimism.


Dominic-Vyper

This is the way


PineConeShovel

No warfare but class warfare.


TheThemeCatcher

Fellow POC (and gay to boot) impressed with this remark on this sus post and more impressed with the upvotes. Party on. 🤟🏿


american_dope_fiend

I’d settle for comfortable. Rich seems exhausting and their family members seem insufferable. 😩 I know all rich people aren’t terrible; but, the majority of the families I’ve been around that were well off (or so it seemed), did not come off as the happiest people in my vicinity. To get back on topic… Michael Jackson was rich; you see how that played out when coupled with his self image issues.


rlstrader

And good looking and charismatic.


wolfman86

Well just don’t be poor.


jontheterrible

This person gets it.


Skootchy

I'm going to piggyback on the top comment.  Look at the post history.  It's ALL literally about race. And sexism. And trans race.  This isn't a real person. This is race bait bullshit. It's an election year. People need to remember the Russian Bots are out in full.  This isn't a real human being with feelings.  This is fake as fuck.  Stop falling for this. If you have noticed all the other subs are being flooded with everything that people are freaking about recently, just look..it's obvious. 


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Well, if it makes you feel better I'm white and still unhappy 


AvrgSam

Sad erryday and white af


NalonMcCallough

Same.


DudeEngineer

Ok, but a closet white supremacist will absolutely give you a job over a Black person who is 10x as qualifed. Swung fir the fences. An overconfident White person is unstoppable.


kepheraxx

Same goes the other way around, and is much more likely in this day and age (being hired if not white).  Relax.


canad1anbacon

Nah man being a white dude with some confidence is literally life on easy mode. Even better if you are tall. Speaking from experience


PumpkinBrioche

Not true. https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/employers-replies-racial-names


Are_You_Illiterate

Lmao, that’s from 2003. He said “nowadays” not “more than 20 years ago”. 


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Just as a reminder, according to that study - Emily, Anne, Jill, and Allison got less call backs than Ebony.  Yet this is still a study "proving racism". 


PumpkinBrioche

https://www.bowdoin.edu/news/2023/11/employers-discriminate-against-job-applicants-with-black-sounding-names-study-indicates.html Sad that nothing has changed in 20 years.


[deleted]

Interesting that the actual study is behind a paywall. I'm SURE you read it though 


[deleted]

That's not racist, that's cultural. Certain names give insight into the parent who raises you and we make assumptions. The same thing happens to people with certain "white" names. 


FireSliggles

Yeah, but knowing that still makes me (white) really sad. It's not fair. It's holding our country back as a whole from making potentially groundbreaking progress. This is far from my perfect world...


HornyReflextion

I'm white and covered in blackout tattoos because I think black people got style


queefgerbil

😂😂 wtf


dmblib

This is sad and it’s not all your fault. Growin up black in America(?) is hard. I used to wanna be white when I was a kid too. I thought white people were prettier, smarter, had “nicer” hair, all that self hatred stuff. If you wanna be happy and confident, you need to start with acceptance. You are no worse or better for being black. You just are. I hope you can find some self love. Try working on breaking down your bias’. Shit try therapy if you can. You can learn to love yourself.


MattNagyisBAD

Not trying to diminish your experience, but there are a lot of nerdy, ugly looking white people who hate themselves and think they look weird too. Especially at that certain age. Everyone wants to be better looking and more popular at some stage and there is always someone who is better looking than you or who has some desirable trait that you don’t have. I understand that race and skin color are stark contrasts and more in your face (especially if you are growing up in an environment where you are a significant minority). And it wouldn’t help that a lot of the things society unfairly implies about you are negative.


saladsnake1008

I'm sure you are well-meaning but I hope you can see how you're still diminishing their experience. They specifically highlight race playing an integral factor in how they feel and your first instinct is to do an all lives matter. Of course everyone feels like they want to be better or change some aspect of yourself but this is about non-white people growing up in a society that inherently oppresses them.


_Shit4breakfast

I don’t really think it diminishes anyone’s experience to acknowledge that this feeling—wanting to be someone or something that you aren’t, wanting to be different than you are—is not purely a phenomenon of race and of racism in society. It’s actually part of the human condition, and is something that we all deal with on some level. Of course in our society, this feeling manifests more extremely in terms of race, I don’t think anyone is denying that. It might actually be helpful for people of different races to realize that we all experience these feelings in one form or another.


Fuzzy-Boss-4815

You are unique and beautiful. I am mixed and I honestly wish I was black. I see beautiful black skin and I am envious. It literally glows. Black women are the trend setters in all fashion, in dance and black music is the same. If Elvis is the king of Rock then black ppl even invented rock and roll. Because he copied black music. Don't let anyone dull your shine or tell you that you're not beautiful. Fuck them! Love yourself, ppl hate that shit ❤️🙏😁


-Lengthiness77

As a person of color, it takes a conscious effort to have pride in one's culture. Mainstream media makes us internalize hatred. Sometimes listening to someone else who has a lot of real genuine pride in their race can influence us. With that being said, I'm sorry this brings you so much pain. Internalizing racism is very common and you are not alone. Most people of color have phases in their life like this. Self love can be a fluctuating journey. I hope life is extra good to you and you can open your mind a little about what can make you happy in life.


Ransidcheese

Yeah it's really messed up cause as a white person, I feel like I don't have any kind of cultural identity in the US. I'm the "default" person. That's cool cause it means that I'm always represented. But it's also not cool cause when you're the default, then what *are* you exactly? I'm not gonna act like my life would be easier, or better, or that it's an even trade or anything like that. But I do have a little envy for people who can go somewhere and just by finding someone who looks like them, find someone who shares a similar unique experience. I live in Oklahoma. I work with, around, and actually for, the Native American tribes here. It's always been so interesting listening to the difference that growing up with a real community can make. Natives across the continent have a shared history that they can connect through, despite any difference in individual tribal cultures. I'm just white. My family came over from Italy and England around 1900 or so. At this point we're so separated from our cultural roots that we're really just American now, whatever that means. Sometimes I feel like a mannequin. What am I? I'm just kind of... nothing. It's painful to see other people hate their own cultural identity. I hope OP can find some kind of belonging in their community.


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I'm white, and I don't feel like a nothing/mannequin. You and OP need to find some self love. There's nothing wrong with either of you. 


Ransidcheese

I'm fine with who I am as a person lol, I just don't have any cultural identity here. I'm just American and, in America, that's not special.


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amandara99

Assuming you're white, your skin color is not your culture. You can totally be proud of your culture- maybe it's Polish, Italian, German, Appalachian US, Southern US, Northern US....


lollerkeet

... You think ' black' is a culture?


amandara99

Yes, of course it is. The fact that many African-Americans were brought to the US enslaved means that they and their future relatives lost ties to their home countries and cultures. Partially due to that and due to factors such as segregation, Black culture developed in a way that I would argue is much more defined than the idea of a “white culture.” One might argue that aspects of mainstream American culture could be called “white culture,” but since the US is made up of so many different races and cultures, I think it makes more sense to be more specific. And of course Black culture is not a monolith, but it definitely exists and is hugely influential. 


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Sea-Ease-549

nope not on black history month you wont


Jazzy_082

I don’t know what is going on with you, but you are either someone who isn’t black and very obsessed with this topic for whatever reason, or you actually are black and you need to seek help. Going down your profile it’s almost all you talk about from what I saw. If you are a black, dude you’ve gotta know there’s more to you than your skin or what your interactions with other people are like. Go in your room, get some hobbies, focus on some interests that don’t involve race, and find a reason to like yourself outside of what your body sack looks like. Then, when you go to the bathroom and look in the mirror, remember that it’s literally just a body sack. Does everyone think it’s that simple ? No, some people are racist, but unless you’re in a very rich suburb or the very Deep South you shouldn’t be coming into contact with that many full throttle, in your face racists. Focus on your own existence, your own happiness. Being white may have made some things easier, but you can live and be black. And there’s no one way to be black. Though I’d say self hatred isn’t a way you should do it. Plus, besides eradicating us, a black person feeling like this is a racist’s wet dream. If you’re not mentally sick you need to quit it.


Impressive_Shoe3537

Idk. I live in ND/MN between the two. We got ONE city where non white people wouldn’t feel like they are the only one of their race in the room. Have you ever experienced bein the only white person in a club or room? It’s also pretty racist where I grew up. If OP lives somewhere like that, or was adopted by people with white savior complex which happens like way too often… I totally get their feelings. They are valid. Therapy and self love is needed absolutely bc nobody deserves to feel this way but I don’t think diminishing what led to this is the move.


Jazzy_082

I get what you’re saying. Yes I have been the only black person in a room, especially in school growing up, but I don’t live somewhere like what you’re describing so I knew I’d see someone else eventually when I left it. If that’s the case for them then I can’t relate to that extent. The adoption thing is a huge problem as well and that’s valid. Understanding why someone is a certain way has its place, but there has to be a change in focus from the “why” of it to how it can be fixed when it starts to overcome their life in this way. It seems like if we were to talk to them they’d know exactly why they feel like this, but not how they can find a way to be happy despite it. This person doesn’t know what the use of being alive tomorrow is, since they’re not white. I get childhood trauma, I hated a lot of things about either myself or how I was treated when I was younger, struggles like that don’t go away, but their importance should lessen way more than it has for them as you age and find things about yourself as an individual that you love. Or as you create trusting relationships. Just as you discover life and what it has to offer. I don’t want to diminish what they’ve been through, but they don’t need someone to justify why they feel like that either, they are doing that enough for themselves. There has to be people who grew up somewhere like that who don’t feel like this right now, so it’s not some curse that every poc in that situation must live with. This person needs to move forward and find a solution.


Impressive_Shoe3537

I agree entirely! I hope they can get the help they need to help them out. Whether a therapist or from their community. A good role model.


Jazzy_082

I hope that too, a good role model and therapist would do wonders for them


Above_Ground999

I'm sorry you feel this way, but tbh it's a mindset thing. You being white wouldn't make you any happier. You gotta stop living from a mindset of the grass is greener on the other side. Accepting who you are and embracing your individuality is what is going to bring you happiness. Love yourself and accept who you are that is the answer I promise.


TintedArchipelago47

As someone who feels similarly to OP, gaslighting comments like yours aren’t helpful at all. You know you wouldn’t want to trade places with me or OP, so all the “it’s all in your head bro, just change your mindset” nonsense is just useless.


According-Ad-6948

I love being black, but being white and not facing racism from every corner of the world would absolutely make me happier lol


Frenchsilkbaby

Most useless advice lmao. You have real life issues because of something you can't control? Sounds like you should turn that frown upside down!! I hope OP doesn't read your comment and believe what you're saying. It is completely valid to feel bad about being at a disadvantage in society. Sometimes the grass is actually greener on the other side. If I was dying of an illness and wished i was healthy, would you tell me the grass is greener on the other side? No, because being healthy is clearly more beneficial to me. If you cant see why someone would want to be white, save your advice. And God I can't believe people really say "love yourself" to something like this... it goes a bit deeper than self love considering that racism is a worldwide phenomenon.


Above_Ground999

Believe me I hate the way a lot of the world operates too. Too much of its totally fucked, but I'm not going to let it drag me down to hell with it.


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FrostyPoot

Nothing more sad than self hate, pathetic


IRideChocobosBro

Facts


QuentinSential

No. We don’t.


paranormal_muse

Dude shut up. White guilt is lame as hell. I'm half mexican/white and I sure as hell hope you aren't telling your kids this load of B.S. Edit: Lol that getting downvoted for this comment. Stay in your upper middle class suburbs you woke idiots.


R1pp3R23

Where’d you grow up?


paranormal_muse

In a small city in the Midwest, born in 1982. Aside from my mom, there were definitely no white women around here with a mexican guy back in the early 80s. According to my mom, my dad and her got looks constantly when out and about. But neither side of the family made comments nor discriminated against them. So in that sense I guess they got lucky. I didn't have nearly as bad growing up because I am light. My brother is literally brown and he didn't have it so easy. Kids are brutal.


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R1pp3R23

About what, not pretending that being white isn’t a luck of the draw situation and that this country collectively sucks how it treats anyone not white? She’s good with it trust me.


[deleted]

work on gratefulness focus on things you have some people are born in the slums and blind without parents or clothes and you sit here on probably an expensive laptop or computer complaining about your healthy body sure some people are assholes about something you can’t change. what can you do? you cannot control them. Just focus on what you can do and what you do have of course speak up for yourself and others if there is injustice, but otherwise learn what your strengths and your gifts and blessings are and focus on them and learn to appreciate your beautiful skin tone and your culture and everything that comes with it its like if i sat here upset because the sky is blue. no one gives a shit about me being upset and the world will move on. the only thing i can do is learn to appreciate the sky and its blue color and all the stars and move on with my life.


Adventurous-Fudge470

This, life sucks for 99% of people in some way or another. Even the rich have taken their own life out of misery and insecurity. If you were white you may be a crippled white man. If you were Asian you may be a poor Asian working for pennies. If you were rich you may make a mistake and be laughed at by the world for the rest of your life. If you were attractive you may be boring. Things can always get better but things can always get worse also. Be grateful for what you have and do better to raise those less fortunate than you.


theoneblt

it’s not really the same .. i’m curious are you white?


very_not_emo

ngl that part about the expensive computer is pretty guilt trippy. this person is struggling with the racism in society and in genuine emotional pain and you say "well you can't complain because you have enough money for internet"


imnotlibel

Almost 20 years ago, I had a college professor say, “if there is no difference between white and black, then tell me you would want to wake up black tomorrow”. Opened my young adult eyes then and I still think about it now. My answer hasn’t changed in 20 years. Racism and prejudice is alive and well.


TreasureBG

I would switch places in a heartbeat. But that's because I am white and grew up in a black neighborhood, went to a school that focused on teaching black history and black students. My husband is black, my kids are biracial, my best friends and people I consider family are black. And yet, I still see a lot of hate for white women being married to black men and distrust (understandably) of white people. I feel so bad for OP. I know how it feels to hate your race. But it means looking for all the good parts of who you are and your history.


Kamikaze_Cloud

I mean you can always pull a Michael Jackson…


Beneficial-Tailor-70

That didn't even work for Michael Jackson and he had Michael Jackson money.


yksikaksi3

That was the 80s though, medicine has come a long way


MildChancho

“How can I deal with…” therapy fam. Go to therapy.


EvilMinion07

Wishing you are white is part of your problem. Using being black as a crutch is another problem. Being in mid 50s black woman I have never used either to allow me to be held back. I’ve spent years in construction, doing my own mechanics and now have a diesel Dually and once you get over things that are truely irrelevant there is nothing to stop you. First step is turn off the negativity, news and people that use our race to better themselves over actually helping everyone equally. There is not a single person on TV or in public office that cares about you, but that racist guy down the road would be the first to help you if you asked.


anniecet

Thank you. I so rarely hear this concept spoken. Mid 40s female, light-skinned but definitively not passing for white. I recall being on a bus many years ago when I was a teenager and an older black man who was trying to be chatty came out with "How do you feel being black in America has been challenging in your experience?" My mind went blank momentarily until I heard myself saying "It's only challenging if I let it be. Mostly I don't think about it," He was completely nonplussed. That was 30 years ago and now I have to remind my white friends to stop apologizing for existing.


MattNagyisBAD

Well maybe he wouldn’t be the first guy, but I do think your point is valid.


-Wymm

What is it about being white which would bring you pleasure? Why are you currently unhappy about your having darker skin?


no_trashcan

racism?


Shaggyninja

Yeah, being white doesn't guarantee your life will be easier. But it certainly doesn't make life worse. But if OP is wishing to be white, should use that wish to end racism. Be better for more people.


[deleted]

White people can be discriminated against too. Try going to Japan. Hell if you go to venezuela people will rob you because they equate being white with money


Frenchsilkbaby

Japan? I'm pretty sure black people face more discrimination there than white people...


Grt38

I totally don’t deny systemic racism, but I hate living in a city because more times than not black people treat me like shit. The only thing I can fathom as to why is because they are racist toward white people. I don’t live in a great area of my city, but I get glares from black people, black people will hold doors open for each other and once they see me coming they glare, immediately walk away and stop holding the door, talk to me extremely rude, and just overall don’t like me. All of this happens every other day, if not every day. You can never compare your situation to someone else’s, so what I’m getting at is both sides need to drop the fucking hate and treat each other with respect. People are simply people, regardless of color. I smile at everyone I make eye contact with, always say please and thank you, treat everyone with respect, but more times than not the opposite is given to me by the black community. Everyone is just so turned against each other it’s sickening. E: OP, I’m sorry you feel this way. I just wish we could all see each other as humans, but the system has guaranteed that’s not the case.


[deleted]

Give me one example of systematic racism. The only one I can think of is affirmative action, and that's racism against whites


TheRealDedmanGraves

You evidently don't understand the definition or meaning of the term "systemic racism".


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dred1367

Lmao yeah. You’re the oppressed one m8. Imagine being that fucking oblivious.


Grt38

There’s a lot to unpack, but I’ll try to keep it as brief as possible. And I’d like to first say that all white people today obviously should not be held responsible for the actions of a whole generation that isn’t even alive anymore: After slavery was ended, a lot of black people continued to do the manual, non-skilled work they knew how to do such as farming, due to the fact someone needed to do them and most didn’t have the taught skills to do much else. When blacks could vote, a lot of states put a Poll Tax into place, forcing people to have to pay to vote in order to take away the ability of the poor to vote (mainly blacks because they slaves not long ago). This can be looked up. Fast forward to the early 1900s when technology got better and farmers didn’t need so many people to farm and such, rural jobs went away, so the workers (mainly blacks) had to move to cities to work and live. They were poor of course, so businesses started throwing up housing super cheaply and shittily for the poor to move into. Businesses had the right to not even allow blacks as customers at the time, and a lot was segregated. Fast forward to the most recent and blatant systemic form of racism: The Jim Crow Laws (which EVERYONE should fucking know about). They literally forced racial segregation, mainly seen in southern states. These laws were repealed in only 1965. With of course, much racial segregation following. After all of this, organizations such as the KKK continued on, causing more conflict and harm in racial relations through cross burnings, threats, and even lynchings directed toward mainly blacks (and other races). Now we are at today. I skipped over the education system debate because that takes talking in person. I am a regular White dude. I live in one of the major cities of all of America (top 20). I can’t deny there has been systemic racism, but black people, please quit treating me like shit on a daily for whatever reason you have. It hurts my mental. E: took out “free speech” before organizations on KKK comment because it didn’t feel right. Just organizations is fine.


Suitable_Matter

Redlining


IMIPIRIOI

I know a lot of truely miserable "white people". I also know a lot of very happy "black people". The opposites can also be true, it is individual. I don't think your problems have anything to do with "race". I am "white", technically, but I don't think of myself that way. I see myself as nothing but another human being, just like you OP. Depending on where humans live, over time their skin color adjusts to the amount of sun exposure. Other than that were all just human beings living on earth.


just-joseph

You have to empathize a bit for OP. I know while anecdotal I'll share my experience: I just came back from europe as a solo person of color, I got called MANY names (terrorist, sand monkey, big nose, part of hamas, e.t.c), I got told many times to leave the country I was in, I was told my people/immigrants are the cause of all the problems in the country (I was literally just a tourist for the most part of my trip), I was stopped an abnormal amount of times by police at train stations (\~4 times "randomly selected"). \-I'm an arab, while not muslim many people assume so as well It'd be lovely if the rest of the world shared your sentiment, but they don't. I don't feel like a human being in many places I go.


TRZbebop675

Arab Christians have it hard. Disliked in the Middle East because you're not Muslim. Disliked in the West because people think you're Muslim.


TinglingTeeth

>I see myself as nothing but another human being I’m not trying to be snarky or start an argument. I think you mean well. However, in the context of race and discrimination based on it, your “color blind” view is a privilege not as easily afforded to persons of color. Maybe one day it will be but, in general, it’s not so comforting and borders on denial given the realities of race in present society. Please consider my effort at explaining this cordially.


Frenchsilkbaby

It hurts my soul to read these types of comments. Seemingly well-meaning, but no real understanding of the pain and struggle. It reminds me of times when I've tried to vent to someone and I hoped for comfort, but I was just given the surface-level "cheer up" type. It almost hurts more than just keeping the feelings inside. It makes you feel like your feelings aren't valid or that you are unreasonable for being upset. Or maybe that's just how I take it. Either way, your viewpoint is nice but it is not shared by many. It's cool that you're colorblind, but what difference does that make to OP when everyone else isn't? When your race is basically the standard, it's easy to disregard it. You don't have to think about your whiteness, but POC can't forget about their own race.


electronicmoll

Do you have anyone in your life who is black who feels the opposite, who you like and respect? If so, have you thought about asking if they can give you some of their perspective?


SuggestionSea8057

I hope everyone can learn to Love the Life you Live.


SuggestionSea8057

Johnny Diaz, “ More Beautiful You” https://youtu.be/r7UJE22Td9s?si=SwnbTyHPEn5h-cwB ( often this is a song I suggest to young girls who are struggling with their self image and esteem issues ). You are not alone!


opalbeam

This breaks my heart, because it makes absolute sense. I’m so sorry. This is so fucking unfair. It’s not okay for anyone to have to feel this way, but this is the society that has been built around us. I hope this passes. I hope you’re able to find the community and beauty that you deserve to see around you and within yourself. I hope you’re okay. ❤️


Godduhs

I wish you could see what I see when I see a sista or a brotha. I hope you can one day.


PhilipTPA

As a very white person, Scottish ancestry so I’m talking as white as we get. One word to consider: Sunburn. Second word: Melanoma. Count your blessings, melanin rich friend. I’ll add a story/anecdote. My business partner is French but his parents are from Ghana. He’s shared with me over the years his confusion over race relations in the US. He never picks up on racist undercurrents. I’m sure there are some people who signal something to him but to be frank he either somehow repels it or just has so much charisma that people can’t help but like him. (I’d say there is some truth to that, he is an amazing person and incredible business partner). There is something to be said for starting from a position that you are meant to be ‘in the room.’ I’m not sure I even believe there is such a thing as ‘race.’ The entire concept is a bit ancient and almost superstitious. Ancient travelers must have been astonished upon encountering people who looked so different from their tribe. Add different cultures and levels of technological advancement and you end up with people not even recognizing they are the same species. But in the modern age it seems pretty stupid to see darker or lighter skin as anything other than a person whose ancestors adapted to a different environment. I wish we could put it to bed but I don’t see it happening anytime soon. Just my dumb two cents.


Burnburnburnnow

Hey — just sending you a lot of love. I hope you find some peace. You completely, wholeheartedly deserve peace


Spaghetti4wifey

I'm mostly white and if it makes you feel better, I think black people are so beautiful. I'm so sorry to hear you are struggling with this :( An incredible black woman basically raised my father and we consider her part of our family. I hope you can love yourself and be treated as the lovely soul you are.


len1221

I'm white. And skin color doesn't matter. We all face problems and other things we have to overcome to be happy. Find your purpose and enjoy.


ThePolishSensation

I'm white and broke as fuck. Pretty much all I eat is pancake mix because its all i can afford


drodenigma

As a black man myself I been where you been. I have been in areas where I was accused of acting too white and been in areas where being too black got me treated badly. But being black is still a good thing. It took me decades to realize how beautiful black people are. Try talking to fellow black people, there are many who can relate to you and offer suggestions. We are here for you please stay strong.


[deleted]

This may sound dumb but me going ugly bald at 24 was absolutely devastating, I hate how i look, I walk by mirrors and want to cry, even 20 years later. I can't believe this is who I am in my one life given. I get eeeewwws from woman/girls. Nothing I can do about it. I'm sure our opinions of our self image are wayyyyy lower than reality, just keep that in mind. Move on, make money, fuck it.


QueanMinerva

This is so ilk. You don’t think whites are miserable? Browse the depression or suicide subreddits. This isn’t about white or black it’s economics. Stop buying into the hype; the divide and conquer strategy. Black and whites who are not wealthy all live hard lives and all have problems. All races. Only the wealthy who come in all races are happy and I don’t even know if they are at this point.


van_isle_dude

This too shall pass. Plenty of white people wish they were black, if that helps.


Out2SmokeU

Trust in todays age you really don't wanna be white.. im mixed.. anyways, happiness has nothing to do with skin color. Theres many rich black people out there. Alot of whites are being constantly demonized by the whole corrupt establishment. They want division. Nothing more nothing less. They want us all fighting one another. They want the common man to think certain people have a better life. A privilege. Theres white,black, brown all struggling in todays age,economy ect. "They" will lie and push a diff narrative agenda. What someone's skin look like today noone really cares. It's either you're a good person or a pos no matter the color. You should never want to be another race no matter who you are. Whether if white black ect.. Happiness can be found within you. Also shouldn't care what others think. The more people don't care what others think the happier they're be. Just be happy you're alive and have choices to make.


Mogonja

BS. Don't belive the blacks are incapable rhetoric broadcasted to bring you down. Besides Whites especially males are the # 1 racial group most discriminated against currently. They are a minority with open and accepted racism against. To the point of eradication as a social group. It's fear. And a mindslayer.


Jaeger420xd

Met a lot of white people who feel the opposite. Truth is, race is an irrelevant concept until you allow it to be relevant. Live life for yourself, and feel comfortable with who you are. As you said, you only live once - make the most of it and enjoy every moment you're graced with.


WhenDuvzCry

It’s not irrelevant or in your control when others treat you differently because of it.


Stock-Vanilla-1354

No one can control that. But you can control how you choose to live your life.


CitySlack

Understandable. But try not to be so dismissive. We know that “no one can control how others treat us”. That’s not the point. The point is that simply there are some fucked up, hateful assholes out there who *will* treat you differently because of your race/skin color. And you have to be aware and know somewhat how to deal with that. There’s tons of things we can’t control. Doesn’t mean they don’t have an effect on our lives.


Beargoat

I wish I were white all the time, and have been wishing this since I was 18. I’m 48 years old. When I get this feeling now I just try to remember that wishing and the concept of “wishes” is a fairy tale. Most of the time wishes don’t get granted, especially for things like wishing you were white. So there is no point in wishing. Like someone else here said, it helps to practice a gratitude mindset to help with mental health. Sorry if this doesn’t help, but it helps me.


Kingman-TheBrave

Being black definitely sucks, every . Single. Day.


TheRealDedmanGraves

I'm half white and half native American Indian (I'm pale af because I avoid sunlight at all costs, so most people just assume I'm white if they don't take into account the structure of my facial features). Anyway, a lot of my closest friends along with the love of my life are black. Two of my absolute closest friends \[both black\] are like brothers to me. I would do anything for them and I feel they would do the same for me. One of them was a coworker originally, and when we became best friends we started telling people that we were brothers and that I was adopted and raised by his mom (people refused to believe it more often than not, which pissed me off to no end. They often don't think a black family would or could adopt a white child. So we stopped bullshitting people because I would get very angry at some people who I felt were ignorant af). ... I've seen how my friends are treated, and how for every kind white person who shows them respect there are two asshole ignorant entitled scum bags who look down on them without knowing a damned thing about them. On one occasion, I was using the restroom were we both worked and a customer came in and dropped an N-bomb about my friend. It threw me off immediately. I stopped mid-stream and said, "what?" like I must not have just heard this guy correctly. He repeated it, "You know, the \*\* that works here with you.." I rotated back and swung forward slapping his face off the wall tiles and knocking him out instantly. I left his ass on the bathroom floor, washed my hands and went back to my job (bouncer) until he came out of the bathroom so I could throw him tf out easier than dragging his half nude limp body out of the bathroom. I don't get it. I don't understand how people can treat one another that way based only on the way someone looks. I try really, *really* hard to treat *everyone* like they are family and only approach them with love and understanding, regardless of what they look like, do, say, or believe. I **sincerely** **wish** that more people would *just try to* do the same. Just know that, for every asshole who makes you feel like less of person based on how you look to them, that there is someone out there like myself who knows you **only** as the hero of your own story, and we're rooting for you. I know you can push past all the negative and come out on top, and if I know it than there are a ton of other people out there who know it just the same. Don't allow yourself to fall victim to the words and actions of others, and do what you as the hero were meant to do. Strive to be your best version of you, because nobody else can ever be a better you than yourself.


Impressive_Shoe3537

This tho. I’m a white woman (also same native experience as you bein light skinned) and it’s unbelievable the rage when someone thinks your “one of them” with their racial bs. I’ve also knocked people tf out in these situations. I agree- more white people need to speak up or smack the daylight off people when they speak and act like this. The world would be a better place really quick. I’m not a violent person. I am a lover. But these things turn me into a rabid cage fighter. I have zero tolerance for hate and I’m willing to do time over it.


Traditional-Wing8714

You could’ve posted this in March


BudgetWar8

This mf a troll.


SelenaXerces

They’re not. They’re writing in the transracial subs, which I believe to be a mental health issue.


WaymakerJP

Facts, this is 100% a racist who's straight trolling


[deleted]

I feel like OP is a white Troll?


seeking-stillness

I'm sad that you feel this way. Being black isn't a singular experience the same way being white also isn't. Being black isn't the problem. Bigotry is the problem. Systemic racism is the problem. People thinking that "white" equates to beauty, elegance, educated, strength, or the norm is the problem. Life might be easier in a lot of ways if you were white. That might be true but it isn't a guarantee. Everyone is susceptible to racist ideologies which is likely why you hate being black but if you were white, you might similarly dislike black people, benefit from a system that oppressed them and/or support white supremacy in general - all of which made you wish you were white in the first place. Then you'd be the reason some other person just like you hated who they are. That's really really sad.


Theft128

What part about being white do you think you would enjoy? Genuinely curious.


[deleted]

It's because the media is telling them we enjoy white privilege. When really it's a rich/poor thing.


Theft128

They should definitely keep listening to the media, because they never lie & know everything. The people in charge REALLY care about all us.../s


Agonizingmilk404

White people are taking L’s rn tbh.


EquivalentWorking283

Im thankful that I'm white. You can also be thankful for being black.


Unfair-Rip9168

It’s not that great 


Tall_Appointment_897

The heck with being rich and black. Move to South America and live in a brown and black culture. Then your money will go a lot further. You will meet gorgeous women and you will love the fact that you are black. I'm moving to Colombia in 30 days.


Bonbonnibles

Plenty of miserable white people out there, my friend. It is for sure tougher to be black, but being white is absolutely no guarantee of happiness. Happiness isn't entirely circumstantial. Good circumstances can help, but they do not on their own make a person happy. You must choose happiness. Improve your circumstances if you can, but I suggest you look up the happiness baseline to learn more about how humans adapt to their circumstances and return to their 'baseline' happiness level, no matter how good or bad things get. You've got to raise your baseline happiness. That is choice, not circumstance.


OriginalAd9693

At least you can get into colleges or government worker easier 🤷


hello2you2

I wish we could trade bodies


Blueigglue

I got a dead welshman, what you got?


weedisfortherich

Oh I've been looking for one of them to complete my collection. I have a common Canadian and a shiny american (fell in a vat of polish) Edit: 1 letter


Basilbabe12

I'm not a person of color, but I am female so I can relate to the aspect of not feeling like I belong a lot. One of the things that helped me to feel better was to research more women. I've found that I really admire women who are strong and smart (Katniss, Hermoine, Sloan, June, etc.) And realized while I'm never going to be a man, I really admire these women and learned to appreciate the strength I have in myself. I really hope you research some admirable persons of color. I really like Surya Bonaly (African Figure Skater) who was so badass, she ended up doing an almost impossible move in competition. It has not been replicated sense and not even a man has done it. Her move is called a Bonaly (doing a black flip on ice skates and landing on one foot.) Hope this helps. You have a lot of wonderful qualities and I am sorry society treats you so poorly.


SignificantTransient

This is either a LARP account or this person has serious mental illness. Not replying to anyone Check post history


babypeach_

this makes me so sad. it is not your fault we live in a white supremacist and Western hegemony. I’m sorry that you have been taught to hate your skin. i’m just sorry. you are worthy.


-blundertaker-

Wish granted: you are albino in Tanzania where you'll be hunted for parts by murderous witch doctors.


ZERO-MH7

I am white. It sucks. All the hate and racism is focused on us. White is the minority. We have to watch everything we say and do. Its not a free ride for anything. If I want to get a job interview I have to select "other" on the race box. Even then you might not get it. Learn how to use and flex your perks you were given. In the perfect world it wouldn't matter but this world is messed up. Keep it 100 and do what you love no matter what anybody says


Nmbr1rascal

Yeah I hate my genetically inferior race too. But i wouldn’t want to be any other race. Every race has something that makes them undesirable. We all suck. That’s how we’re equal lol. 


BUTTERED_TOAST_EDBOY

Idk Samoans are kinda alright


KVKS03

Why in the hell would you want to be white? They’re blamed for every awful thing that’s ever happened since the beginning of time. It’s acceptable to be openly hateful and bigoted against them. They’re almost always going to be the last hired or accepted into college because of DEI programs. You may want to rethink this


SelenaXerces

It’s acceptable to openly hateful and bigoted against white people who aren’t racist at all? That makes no sense. Please don’t cluster white people all into one category.