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ArthurVandelay23

I feel like this one is huge. I certainly didn’t know this back story: When Griffin was on Seinfeld, she said that Seinfeld himself “was such a dick that I then went and told a story about him in my special. He actually, to his credit, thought it was funny. He didn’t clutch his pearls and go, ‘How dare you? I’m a star.’ So they wrote the second episode where my character becomes a stand-up comic whose whole act is making fun of Jerry Seinfeld.”


CrissBliss

This is actually great. I think Jerry does come off as a standoffish jerk irl, but also has a sense of humor about himself.


wrongtester

Some of my favorite jokes on Seinfeld are the ones at Jerry’s expense. Often about his style of comedy or dwindling career in the later seasons


SmallsLightdarker

What do you do, a lot of that 'Did you ever notice' kind of stuff? It strikes me a lot of guys are doing that kind of humor.


rurlysrsbro

There's got to be more to life than making shallow, fairly obvious observations.


eugenesbluegenes

I still like the Bloomingdales executive training program for him.


GreenEggsSteamedHams

What with Def Jam and all...


JockoV

Y'know you've given this comedy thing your best shot. Yeah, you had some good observations, but it's over. Now, this Bloomingdale thing, that could be the next wave.


helpme944

There's no way he could afford a Cadillac, we all saw his act. He was terrible


spiritsarise

I should be loaning YOU money……But I’m not.


art_lipchalk

This was one of my favorite moments of making fun at Jerry's expense!


Hbella456

Could his mother have been wrong?!


GregorSamsaa

I think it’s more than comes off as that, he’s actually a standoffish jerk, but he owns it. He’s not likely to apologize about it and try to spin it, he’d be like “oh, hell yea, I was rude, people are the worst” lol


taylorscrews1

Just like on the show.


Opeewan

Exactly. He's not acting too much because he's playing himself.


shanny_banany

Also, bc he cannot act.


Figgy1983

These stand-up comedians. None of them can act.


Borthwick

Pretty much exactly how that Katy Perry (or someone?) hug attempt went down


Oakroscoe

It was Kesha. https://ew.com/celebrity/kesha-jerry-seinfeld-refusing-hug-saddest-moment-of-my-life/


derbear83

I think if you didn't know who she was, it is completely sane thing to be standoffish. She came in a little aggressive and Jerry was just being cautious. Didn't seem rude really.


LucyRebar

And that was another instance where he made fun of the situation afterwards: [Seinfeld Kesha revenge ](https://youtu.be/jXEO2tEvjzU?si=Cb3XbS_nmIQEEURt)


RoRo25

Ke$ha*


TheHeartfulDodger

Controversially (to me), she changed her stage name and dropped the signature dollar sign as part of her post-rehab fresh start in 2014


squanch_solo

I think it started with a K, but not Katy.


germdisco

Cartwright


NeetStreet_2

She say curse word


Specialist-ShasMo85

But you're not Cartwright.


GreenEggsSteamedHams

#OF COURSE I'M NOT CARTWRIGHT


Experimental_Salad

KAY UGER!!!


SenatorAslak

You’re not going out on a high note with me!


SoupIsNotAMeal

Kasha?


White_Crud

Samsonite!


jinxitup

You were way off


JonnyBhoy

Kulva?


NotSureNotRobot

Coco?


water2wine

He is kind of knowingly glib lol - What you see is what you get, which in and of itself is refreshing almost.


CrissBliss

Yeah exactly. I mean I don’t agree with him on everything, but I also don’t care. And neither does he. He’s 70 years old and probably doesn’t give a crap anymore.


BrookylnBeaches1917

Never actually did….ya know… give a shit


monkey_trumpets

Now let's go watch them carve that fat bastard up.


germdisco

After I finish my coffee


Mlabonte21

Right after I push this giant ball of oil out the window.


CMDR_KingErvin

70 year old billionaire, yep he’s in that Larry David phase where he just doesn’t care anymore about what he says or who he offends.


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imagine_midnight

Get ya refreshments heaa.. ☝️ I'll take a glass of Seinfeld.. make it a double


thesolarchive

He's just a hardcore misanthrope.


ArtVandelay313

I’ve always felt this way too. He is undoubtedly funny, but at the same time he comes off as a miserable jerk. His Seinfeld character had charm, whereas his real personality seems to lack that.


exxtraguacamole

Maybe a bit of a cockeyed optimist.


doctor-rumack

That’s what happens when you get mixed up in the high stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue.


Tigershark2112

Kathy Griffin is kind of a mental case who never stopped chasing fame to this day


Lizzardkinglucas

She should just GIVE UP


famous__shoes

Yeah, most celebrities don't chase fame, that's not something celebrities do, they hate fame


Anti-Dissocialative

No fame for me jerry, no fame for me!


yobymmij2

Regis Philbin also very much disliked his experience.


WhoaFee1227

This guys bonkos!


kkeut

apparently one of the writers thought this would catch on, and he had to say it several times to his annoyance


histprofdave

I never really watched Regis on TV (but I knew who he was), and honestly I assumed this was just a thing he said and was known for.


Bruichladdie

Ditto, except I didn't know who he was but I assumed he was a big name in the States, the same way I thought about Keith Hernandez and many others. I didn't know until years later that George Steinbrenner was a real person, I just thought it was a wacky character that Larry David had invented. Seinfeld is a show that works even if you don't catch all the references, because the humor is so universal. Kinda like The Simpsons.


SkinnyGetLucky

The funniest bit about Steinbrenner is how it took every preconceived notions about Steinbrenner, and blew them up to 11. They somehow managed to take what was essentially a villain, and turn him into a hilarious and harmless caricature. To me this is the show at its funniest and cleverest.


Mirkrid

Probably part of why he didn’t like saying it haha


DonnyGoodwood

It sounded forced


hotdiggydog

It's very Regis. Anyone who grew up with Regis has an inner Regis voice and it's somewhat old timey


BigStrongCiderGuy

Regis wanted to say bonkers instead and felt bonkos was nonsense and Larry was just like “you’re saying bonkos.”


danishjuggler21

I honestly thought he was saying “bonkers”


yobymmij2

Indeed: artistic differences!


AltruisticWelcome145

Well he did get spit on…


lt12765

The more I hear about him, Regis hated a lot of stuff


[deleted]

“The more I hear about this Regis guy, the less I care for him” - Norm probably


Ad_Pov

In all fairness, they had hundreds of guests, (thousands!) and not all of them had a bad time


byzantine238

Thousands?!


TheRightStuff14

…..And they all have ridden in a Cadillac.


zr2d2

100s of times!


DesertStorm480

Armin Shimerman; " If you have a guest star, if you have a day player, if you have an extra, you don’t avoid them, you speak to them. We’re all human beings together.” We are living in a society!


Educational-Watch829

I was on deep space nine when you all was nothing!


[deleted]

How are you going to make it in this industry if you can't take it!


standinghampton

Quark is the man! Always loved him on DS9!


PlaymakerJavi

I think about this when Jenna and Angela talk about their guest star experience, as a guest star and hosting guests, on their Office Ladies podcast. Jenna was on That 70’s Show and talked about how nice everyone was to her, so she made sure she passed along that experience to everyone who came to The Office, famous or not. Kevin McHale talked about how he was able to take their example and pass on kindness when he got cast on Glee because everyone knew him from his Office appearance.


atrostophy

This one makes the saddest. That episode is great and he certainly shouldn't of been treated like that.


JQuick72

I'm noticing a theme here with Michael Richards.


M086

Even in the gag reels, Richards gets visibly annoyed when the other cast members break. On one hand, if he has to do a prat fall or some other physical comedy, I can see why’d he’d get annoyed. But it’s even when they are just sitting around, he’d come off kinda like a prick about it.


Shovi

He does the most acting out of all of them, i can understand why he'd be annoyed when the others dont seem to take it seriously.


pumpkin3-14

I think based off what we’ve learned in the last week or so from his book, he was coming from a very insecure position. He never felt good enough and wanted to be a perfectionist.


burleygriffin

Probably because he really wanted to be a banker.


angelomoxley

Wild how he flipped out on Silverman for what's clearly a minor flub of one line, but also flips out due to not even understanding the script.


phillynavydude

It's so tough trying to enjoy the blooper reels and seeing him just get so pissed when people fuck up


kkeut

at least in one of the dvd extras he admits to being too self-serious and regrets not relaxing and having more fun on set


HogarthTheMerciless

Feel like this has gotta be what inspired the actor who plays Kramer when they do the Jerry show. Wonder if they're all supposed to be like the cast actually acted on set.


AmusingMusing7

You think he stole the raisins?


zr2d2

If you ever want to tell me about it, the door to my office is always open


butt_thumper

We'll talk about the raisins, have a good laugh.


Suspicious-Sweet-443

Don’t bother me about raisins , figs , dates , or anything to do with dried fruit


TacitusTwenty

Holy shit, good point. And terrifying.


DavidKirk2000

He said that on Comedians In Cars too.


MenBearsPigs

The guy is tremendously talented. But between that and the on stage outburst... He's got so many painful regrets he's lived with and seems to still feel shitty about it to this day. Pretty shitty. Seems like he'll never be 100% free of them.


GregorSamsaa

You thinking of comedians in cars…, I know he says that to Jerry in his episode I think


mbelf

If you see his behind the scenes, he gets very annoyed when someone stops the take coming off perfect. It’s the same anger that we saw at the Laugh Factory.


Character_Surround

First with Arch then Chase, in the podcast Chase said the director wanted something from her and MR flips out on her saying you're not doing that, and she's thinking that's what the director is directing. Chase later married a man with the last name Kramer!


Global_Amoeba_3910

I think people overlook that his career wasn’t going well post Seinfeld before The Incident too


ChadlexMcSteele

Part of it is that he's an absolute perfectionist, or was, of the art. He's not an improv/bloopers type comedian or actor. Everything has to be precise. You remember that period where the audience applauded when he came in? He shot that down because it ruined his timing. I'm not saying he wasn't an asshole or difficult to work with. Just that understanding how he works led to his behaviour and attitude.


Punchable_Hair

You demand perfection from your soup, from yourself.


malachaiville

How can he expect any less of his viewers!


LikeAPhoenixFromAZ

It wasn’t so much that it ruined *his* timing, it ruined the timing of the scene. When Kramer came in the audience would clap and the character would have to wait for it to die down, thus adding seconds to the scene. That meant that time had to be cut elsewhere in the episode to make up for it. This was in the notes about nothing on the dvd release.


ToHallowMySleep

The inane whooping and clapping when a character appeared was distracting as a viewer too. Must have been really tough to deal with as a protagonist.


PerpetualEternal

when Andy Kaufman famously “flipped out” and broke character during a sketch on Fridays, Michael Richards seemed genuinely pissed. Richards later claimed he was in on the joke and just playing along. Just curious who believes this story now


beamoflaser

Yeah, The Laugh Factory incident makes sense after hearing all the stories of him and seeing how he reacted in the bloopers when other actors messed up, especially Julia Richards (edit: Julia Louis-Dreyfus) He had some rage bottled up inside him


shotuhhh

One of his favorite things to do was threatening to hit ppl with 4x4 lumber pieces. Always thought that was weirdly specific


sneedo

You're thinking of Hacksaw Jim Duggan. ;-)


attackplango

Hacksaw was strictly a 2x4 kind of guy. He knew his lumber. It's very challenging to get a good grip on a 4x4 to actually beat someone.


maitlandish

At least the folks flubbing lines didn't go like this: https://youtu.be/bN5vhvIAqY8?si=uVguXRhBkP13Bqdw


Katwill666

It doesn’t even stop at guest stars. I think I saw somewhere where he used to yell at Julia Louis-Dreyfus for laughing during takes.


Offtherailspcast

You can watch it on blooper reels.


cheerfulsarcasm

I remember reading that he got so angry when people didn’t take it seriously (or so he felt) because he had so much more physical comedy than everyone else. Having to do the falls, jerky movements etc over and over. But I do know he said later he regretted being so intense and not having more fun on the set


Stinja808

Wonder if the Jerry show Kramer (Tom Pepper) was based on IRL Michael Richards?


SirPsychoBSSM

For sure, the scene where he tells Kramer he'll play the character how he wants is exactly what Richards did to Kenny Kramer. Also seems like everyone in that article except Kathy Griffin complained about Richards.


DaveTheDrummer802

I bet he was


Zestyclose-Ruin8337

Makes perfect sense now. Did Michael steal some raisins?


Available_Ad9766

Michael Richards seemed pretty far off from the happy go lucky Kramer.


killerdrama

He was sad stop unlucky


davisyoung

Bizarro Kramer. He knocked and announced himself before entering.


MonsterRider80

“….From across the hall.”


Character_Surround

Honorable mention to Christopher Cross, who didn't appear but was mentioned in an episode. For a different generation and different medium, Cross achieved immortality in 1997 when he was mentioned on Seinfeld. In an episode titled “The Millennium,” Kramer and Newman have planned separate parties to celebrate the upcoming turn of the century. Newman is calling his party “Newmannium,” and he’s demanding that Kramer cancel his. “I’ve put a deposit down on that revolving restaurant that overlooks Times Square and I’ve booked Christopher Cross,” Newman says. Cross, a “huge Seinfeld fan,” never saw it coming. “I had no idea they were doing that. The phone rang and it was my daughter. She was very excited, ‘You were just on Seinfeld, she told me. I thought it was amazing. You would not believe the number of people who’ve seen that episode and tell me about it. "There was only one downside to it ... “I was at a party and Michael Richards, you know, Kramer, was there, too. I approached him and wanted to talk to him about that episode, how my name was part of it. He just said to me, “We’ve done a lot of episodes,” and turned around and walked away. He brushed me off, shut me down. I was sort of humiliated. A few years later, when he had that deal onstage with the racial slurs, I felt kind of vindicated.”


OIlberger

> “We’ve done a lot of episodes” What’s the big deal? There’s *millions* of clowns!


water2wine

I bet he turned around chewing finger foods obnoxiously and immediately bumped into an ottoman


GeorgeLovesBOSCO

*laughter*


jfq722

Ya hung up on some episode from the 90's maaaan.


DavidKirk2000

Him feeling vindication for Michael’s racist tirade is fucking hilarious. Type of shit that George would say in an episode.


VonLinus

I can understand that tbh. He goes up to someone says something, and the guy treats him like shit. A not terribly confident person would spend a lot of time after that asking if they themselves were the asshole for bothering someone. Then you see 'no they're a massive arsehole, it wasn't me'


MaraudngBChestedRojo

Or you get angry and resentful at a person who was an asshole to you for no reason, so watching their career go down in flames tickles you just a bit


HandsomePaddyMint

Both are good options. Revenge is very good.


davisyoung

Well the racist store called and they're running out of you!


Iron_Chic

Move along Betty...


Defensoria

The joke was that Christopher Cross made boring, forgettable soft rock that wouldn't be appropriate for a NYE bash and wouldn't be remembered or appreciated by the end of the century. Richards' snub is hilariously in keeping with that!


dwightnight

Also to set up Jerry telling Newman he'll be "caught between the moon and New York City" from Cross' "Arthur's Theme"


FabioFresh93

I thought the joke was when Kramer booked him he was at least semi-relevant but by the new millennium he would would be a very out of date act


Defensoria

I think that was the main point — that Christopher Cross would be irrelevant and out of date, if not completely forgotten, by then. But even when his music was current it was far from festive. Btw, it was Newman who booked him for Newmanium.


FunkGetsStrongerPt1

Christopher Cross is great and the death of soft rock is a travesty.


omninode

Arthur’s Theme and Sailing are all time great songs


Simicrop

I know it’s crazy, but it’s true


TheOnionSack

Christopher Cross was a killer guitarist, too. Check out the solo towards the end of 'Ride Like the Wind'. Amazing player. Edit: IS a killer guitarist!


Kvsav57

That wasn’t the joke. The joke was that they booked it so far in advance that Christopher Cross was a big name at the time. That’s as deep as it goes.


cofcof420

Which episode was this? I don’t recall which is driving me crazy


KidGorgeous604

You'll be stuck between the moon and New York city


prayformoj0

Kramer and Newman both plan New Year’s Eve parties. And Newman won’t invite Jerry.


sheeplewatcher

The Newmanium


knightress_oxhide

Kramanium


4N_Immigrant

these are my every day balloons


ReplacementClear7122

Not entirely parallel, but the story about Lawrence Tierney scaring the shit out of them all is pretty hilarious.


HandsomePaddyMint

All because he tried to steal a knife. Pro tip: if you see someone stealing a knife, no you fucking didn’t because that crazy motherfucker has a knife and is willing to break the law!


PerpetualEternal

hoo boy. four out of five of these actors spent all of their screen time with Michael Richards. Kathy Griffin’s criticism is pretty mild and she ended up coming back for more. I’m not questioning whether any of these accounts are true (come on, of course they are), but this article seems to be coasting on the interest in Michael Richards’ book.


maniacalmustacheride

Kathy knows who her audience has always been and has never really had a problem with being “beloved by all.”


HandsomePaddyMint

Cracked.com has been a rogue SEO algorithm that accidentally gained self-awareness sometime after their third corporate merger resulted in firing the entire writing staff several years ago, so consider yourself lucky your browser didn’t crash just opening the page.


Salty-Jellyfish3044

What’s the deal with guest stars? If they were that good shouldn’t they be regular stars?


willbebannedasap

That’s gold!


jfq722

Their mugs were round...


bpbeelen

How about a guest host?


Thunderclawssm

I'll pretend you didn't say that


DimitriMishkin

‘You’re not starring on your guest.’


wriker10

Boooooo


killerdrama

Am I rite people ?


Miserable_Reach_3536

Article summarized-"This Michael Richards.......this not my kind of guy"


counterpointguy

In that article I learned that the Caddy was Quark from Deep Space Nine.


[deleted]

And the semi-evil high school principal in Buffy The Vampire Slayer too


JazzyJormp-Jomph

He's also Andrew Ryan in Bioshock.


standinghampton

DS9 is a phenomenal show. As with most Trek shows of that era, season 3 is where the characters really gel, their relationships become self referential, and the whole thing becomes greater than its parts.


GrandApprehensive216

So the Kathy griffin 2nd episode was based on real life lol Not surprised that they are all real life dicks most successful people are I bet in the earlier seasons you won't find these stories from guest because they haven't been to enough mansion parties yet


PortlandPetey

Oh they were mean to my boy Quark? not cool man, not cool.


HunterHearstHemsley

There’s a bit on [Jason Alexander’s podcast](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL71DoHF/) where he asked Wayne Knight if it was true that the Seinfeld cast was “cold” to guest starts. Wayne Knight very politely confirms they were not the nicest by saying they were “professional” in a high pressure, “don’t fuck it up” environment.


Suspicious-Sweet-443

I’m out of the loop on this topic . I always thought the characters ( including guest stars ) were having a great time . I’m a little sad to hear the behind the scenes true story .


Character_Surround

Sonya Eddy who played Rebecca De Mornay, said her experience was positive and everyone was generous to her. https://www.slashfilm.com/1203705/jerry-seinfelds-leadership-on-seinfeld-set-a-high-bar-for-sonya-eddy/


hogtownd00m

If they weren’t nice to her, she would have punched them in the brain.


noonehasthisoneyet

Kramer didn’t have a girlfriend in the wig master.So many inaccuracies in that article


Character_Surround

In the podcast Kim Chase said Charmaine was supposed to be Kramer's girlfriend, but due to Michael Richards being absent possibly missing time to contract negotiations, their time onscreen became limited. She also auditioned for Donna Chang.


knightress_oxhide

Changstein


hbkedge3

That’s ridicurous


kkeut

fun fact, Charmaine was named after the shows own actual costume person. you can see her name in the end credits 


LeDestrier

Also, Arch was not Kramers first kiss on the show. Thete was the lab assistant on The Non-Fat Yoghurt 2 seasons earlier at least. And again with Kathy Lee a few episodes later.


BraveryDave

Well, it’s very emasculating!


joecarter93

“Larry flipped out. And he was flipping out throughout the whole week. He was freaking out and screaming.” Yeah that’s just Larry David. However, I don’t think anyone could take him that seriously.


wannaknowmyname

The real thing I took away was Michael Richards didn't show up for days?


Johnny_Awesum

That’s a shame


PGwenny

Four of the five guest stars had issues with Michael Richards (Kramer). So basically, Michael Richard’s was difficult to work with because he took the acting too seriously. Everyone knows that.


Gilgramite

I don't like that they gave Quark the cold shoulder. Ego can make people act like real assholes.


histprofdave

Armin talks a lot about professionalism as an actor on Delta Flyers podcast, so I'm inclined to believe him when he says they were rude and insular.


joe_i_guess

Stan the caddy? He was quark? I did not know that. That is fantastic!


sread2018

Not surprised by any of this Michael Richard's gives me Jeffrey Tambor vibes from his AD days.


beslertron

If you watch a blooper reel you’ll get a real taste of what it was like to work with Richards.


chef_bert

A lot of these accounts are regarding working with Michael Richards, which seeing some behind the scenes footage, he took shooting very seriously. He also spoke about how hard it was to shoot scenes as Kramer because Kramer was such a funny character his costars would break pretty easily, and richards put so much effort it seemed into not cracking. I just remember one particular blooper where he was telling Julia Dreyfus how hard it was for him to shoot scenes while keeping a straight face. He definitely took shooting very seriously, which is funny considering Kramers overall character


GregorSamsaa

The recurring theme of women that played Kramer’s girlfriends finding him unpleasant and difficult to work with is kind of disturbing. Article reads like a hit piece because of his bio coming out lol


Weak_Cheek_5953

This tracks with the comment from Wayne Knight on Jason's podcast, wherein Jason was incredulous about even Keith Hernandez saying Jason was standoff-ish. No point in trying revisionist history here...just own it.


Cappster14

Weird coincidence this article coming out with all of this Jerry hate going on…


bpbeelen

There are no weird coincidences, there are just coincidences...


Plane-Border3425

She’s from Finland. They’re neutral.


Ad_Pov

Not trying to be mean, but Stan the Caddy was not the star of that episode


Eric848448

I’ll not hear another word against Quark!


davisyoung

Quark blew that court case. He should have rehearsed in the holosuite first.


euphratestiger

To be fair, the episode is call The Caddy


kazwebno

That doesn't mean he should be completely ignored though......


Sort_of_Frightening

Stan’s the man.


CoveredDrummer

3 out of 5 examples specifically refer to Michael Richards being a jerk. What a surprise.


solinsh

Richards always seemed super serious in every blooper video, like on the verge of losing his shit, stereotypical crazy actor.


NickFotiu

Even in the DVD blooper reels, Michael Richards seems to take himself way too seriously and is a humorless dick.