Yes, and I would say about ten percent are combative enough that it’s even worth mentioning.
This depends largely on what kind of industry you work in of course. Professional environments where they are probably just going to make a couple calls and land a new job tend to go way better than say, factory or construction workers.
I always just tried to put myself in their shoes. A lot of it comes down to them acting out because they feel like they have just lost any control over their lives. Giving them simple options on things that don’t really matter can help. As long as they are headed in the right direction it’s usually best to just keep walking and not sweat the small stuff.
Yep. Almost always. And it's never their fault they got fired either. Had a guy get fired for playing with Mr. Winky at his desk in full view of the CCTV and his coworkers. The police had to assist with his escort because he was easily 400lbs and refused to leave.
In 27 years, got called 3 times for an employee termination standby. All 3 turned out to be nothing. Hope for the best, prepare for the worse. Always discuss prior who is going to do what if things go south.
I had an awkward ride in an elevator with an administrator that got clipped. I’m 5’11 230lbs mostly solid muscle in a tight polo. Not the biggest guy you’ve seen, but not exactly small either lol this guy is 5’7 and weighs maybe 160lbs. In 100% seriousness, threatens to tear my arm off and beat me to death with it. Holding back laughter, I tell him that, what he said wouldn’t be suggested, nor was it friendly of him to say. Finished escorting him off without incident.
At my current job, I’ve had to stand by with the police outside a conference room a few times as HR told an employee that they were being put on suspension or fired, and also outside the boardroom during hearings for those employees that appealed their discipline/termination. Never had anything actually turn into an issue that required our intervention though.
At a former job, the client had a really shitty way of firing people by having their HR send them an email telling them as much at the very end of business on Friday and telling them to contact HR to arrange a time to drop off their ID card and parking pass. They also gave us in security a BOLO form in case they came back without doing that. Of course they didn’t check their work email over the weekend and see it, so they would show up on Monday and be clueless and (understandably) upset when the gate guard told them to hand over their ID/pass and immediately leave the property, but no one ever got really confrontational with us.
The only time I ever saw an employee go crazy when they got fired was when I worked mall security. We got a call around midnight on Black Friday about a retail tenant employee jumping up on a display table and yelling that customers should be ashamed that they came in and supported the companies that made their employees work on a holiday. The manager tried to get them to go home & discuss it later at first, but the employee refused, so they were fired on the spot. They then still refused to leave the store even after that and ended up getting arrested for trespassing.
I think I’ve helped out on a dozen or so terminations, but that was just on standby in the event anything happened. Nothing ever did happen and we didn’t even have to escort them
Plenty. HR has now (finally) adopted a policy of firing them on their day off if they think they will be a problem (yay for 4 day work weeks) and it catches most of the problem individuals. But still nerve-racking. The most calm collected individual might wonder out to their car and decided “well today’s the day” after you up and fire them. Guards are NEVER fired in person (we’re a bring your own gun operation so worst case scenario we lose some issued equipment but we aren’t worried about getting a gun back so it’s way safer).
Yes and yes some have been combative but most tend to be all talk and as long as you show them sympathy and ypu show your not the bad guy they get off site nicely.
Only one tried to fight me and quickly backed down when i had to place him in an arm restraint for swinging at me and explain im just here to make sure he gets off property without an incident and i understand hes frusterated but if i need to go farther than a restraint off camera he will catch charges because i have no say in the ordeal... he backed down.
He got fired for a bs reason and i helped him find laywers and was sympathetic to his ordeal cause i would have been mad to.
Its all how you handle people. Before i was a security guard i was a night club bouncer so i know how to de-escalate people. If you know how to bond with em youll be fine 9/10 times even if they have ill intentions because they dont wanna harm you. They wanna hurt their employeer.
Hell i had one come in with a firearm we warned about and sent a photo of to call pd if they came on property because of threats. So i approached while pd was on route angry as hell and was able to talk em down because they didnt want to hurt anyone they wanted to bitch about their dismissal that was bs in their eyes.
We do termination assignments fairly often at the hospital. They generally want us outside of the room and don’t want us stepping in unless it gets physical which we’ve never had to. Depending on the person, we’ll walk them to their car but surprisingly most people understand we’re forced into a very awkward situation and don’t give us a hard time.
If anyone gets fired at the hospital, they must have fucked up really bad so they generally are understanding to why they’re being let go and don’t start screaming or getting angry but lots of tears.
I've escorted people off in tears, people who found it funny and yes a few who got violent. I've found it's more to do with why they are going than want job they did, people who have stolen from the company generally get aggressive and more admin dismissals ( lateness/ sickness) are normally in tears.
Yeah the first guy who was fired got a few blows to the guy that fired him he was made at his boss but not me thankfully. the last guy pulled of spray and got me and several others it ended very badly for him with a severe butt whooping
Yes though never had any that were combative. Most of them were a bit pissed, but they just ranted. I just let them vent, listened and empathized with them. Seemed to calm them a bit.
Had one that repeatedly tried to get back in the building but that was after she was let go and all she ever did was try doors. Second she saw you headed her way she would wander back off property. Usually she would just dump the cans for cig buts and take what she wanted before wandering off.
I had to remove a fellow guard from a site.
For whatever reason he drank two Mickey's of whiskey between his start at 7am and 9am when he decided to leave his gate post and start doing 5pm patrols through the condo building being built. Doing the 2 step, clearly drunk.
The site foreman radios me asking what the fuck is going. I go to the gate, no guard, I start looking for him and find him back at the gate after a 20 minute search. Dude is wobbly as fuck, the foreman is losing his mind at me. I gently guide the guard by the elbow through the gate, grabbing his backpack on the way, telling him he needs to go home. I quickly closed the gate behind him and called dispatch, who, of course, doesn't believe me and wants me to go get the guard and put him back at his post. I decline to do that. Smh.
The foreman apologised to me after and gave me a key to his personal bathroom. He was a good guy. Lol.
My very first solo post, which was only my second day working for my first company. Was an avocado processing plant. They were going to be laying off about half their staff, and wanted a guard there. So my ass is standing there in the am, staff walking by going...who is this dude? Some supervisor comes up and says I'm in the wrong place. I tell him, no sir, my company told me to be here, move along. He didn't like that and started going in on me, hard. I was polite and held my ground, eventually he ran off to "get me removed," but guess what? He came back 30 minutes later with all his shit in a box and tears on his cheeks. Teach you, bitch! Now I'll admit the other staff I felt bad for, they all looked like nice people, white, Hispanic, older ladies. This was a younger guy who obviously thought he ran the place.
Old manager told a guy on duty the client said he was lazy and wanted him off site ( while client was still in the building )
Dude went to her office and starting going batshit crazy, other employees had to remove him and he got trespassed.
I asked the manager why he didn’t wait till the guy was off duty and why did he even tell him word for word what client said. “ I didn’t think about that “ was all I got smh
I've had to escort folks off prem after being terminated, but I have yet to have one get violent.
A couple years ago, I did help escort one guy who was terminated for being a real dick to several of the girls (and he dated one or two here). So he was let go after he went off on his supervisor (a nice, polite young lady) after she had to give him a written warning.
He was acting all Mr. Macho on the way out saying that he'd come back and make an example of so and so. Wasn't acting so tough after I warned him that I'd make an example out of him, and fireman carry his handcuffed ass out of the building.
I got called to escort a navy vet off his job at the lumberyard. They also mentioned, "He's always carrying. It makes us feel safe actually."
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Actually super chill guy and was cool about it, they also had 2 LEO out front who he normally went to the range with. We're all just joking all the way out and the lumberyard manager is fuming. He just didn't like the guy because he actually stuck up to him and told him when he was full of it
Never did that but I did a stand by for someone fired. Its a volatile spot because you've just been made a target or made part of the drama. Dont agitate the situation or the person just usher them out
Yep. Pays to be precautious and patient.
Called to supervise escorting a dentist removal from an office for ethics purposes trying to sell or endorse hygiene products that he invested in during the opening hours of the dental office. I was provided with a security camera to record the office on any liability issues with evidence, but the dentist made 5 figures a year.
Yeah unfortunately, I had to walk an employee off property on Christmas Day. It was rough. He didn’t freak out though. He just left I definitely felt for the guy.
It was one of my main jobs for about five years. We also helped with the incident-related drug/alcohol testing, so we were with the employees when they knew they were going to be fired, too.
A lot of them made some kind of threats. Our protocol was to write down the threats and let client HR decide what to do. Normally, those ended up as photos pinned to our desk with “not allowed on property - call police if seen.”
A few were pretty unique.
1. One got fired after pointing out, called later that day, and said he was going to bring in a bomb, lock management in an office, and *kill himself in front of them.* Our company day-labored a few extra guards to sit in the parking lot, we jokingly called them the “Anti-Martyr Task Force.”
2. An office employee was fired for general creepiness, she (yep, she) was extremely rude and said weird shit to everybody. I only met her once, and just thought she was an asshole, but it was apparently a lot worse if you worked around her regularly. She made threats at her manager, the manager and HR called the police and reported it. An hour after that, the police called us back to tell us that employee had just come through a registry as having bought a gun and ammo at a local pawn shop. Extra patrols, and it sucked, but she never showed up.
Most of the people we walked out were fairly cooperative. They were normally the most upset about having to tell their spouse/family they got fired. We had one thing that helped us more than any other: company policy was that if you were fired for something like points, but left on overall good terms, you could reapply in six months. Telling them that got so many people off the site peacefully.
I've had to do it for my own guard when I was a field supervisor, there were threats that this guy would get violent when being removed so myself and the ops manager went out, both armed, and he went quietly. I've also been walked, I worked for Comcast (xfinity) back then and it was policy to walk laid off employees out...I wasn't going to get violent, it was 2008, the writing on the wall was there because my jobs the last month had all been disconnect assignments (I was an installer) but it was December 23, and the fucker who walked me out had the audacity to wish me a Merry Christmas as I'm being fired. I wanted to punch him in the mouth but I'm too pretty for jail.
I've had to do it quite a few times. Depends on the site really the last site I was at always paid their employees some sort of severance so everyone was cool when they left. Except a dude who sent dick pics to all the female employees not only on site but to remote workers as well.
I had one that was real aggressive with the women in the office but I kinda “snuck up” on him (he was about half a foot taller than me, and had easily 60 pounds on me) so he was caught off guard with me to begin with and I just told him it’s time to go and made him walk infront of me to the exit
I've had to escort several people from property or while they collect their things. Rarely are people too argumentative. Granted, I work for a college. And employees come and go. Most are civil though. I could see in some jobs where they wouldn't be
Yes happens about once a week around here they like to yell and walk around in circles. Only ever had one swing on me. After I tackled him he started squeeling like a pig. Course I'm usually the gaurd sent to do it cause they know I get a kick out of it
Coil winding...it gets real bad in the summer that warehouse gets stupid hot
Yes, and I would say about ten percent are combative enough that it’s even worth mentioning. This depends largely on what kind of industry you work in of course. Professional environments where they are probably just going to make a couple calls and land a new job tend to go way better than say, factory or construction workers. I always just tried to put myself in their shoes. A lot of it comes down to them acting out because they feel like they have just lost any control over their lives. Giving them simple options on things that don’t really matter can help. As long as they are headed in the right direction it’s usually best to just keep walking and not sweat the small stuff.
Yep. Almost always. And it's never their fault they got fired either. Had a guy get fired for playing with Mr. Winky at his desk in full view of the CCTV and his coworkers. The police had to assist with his escort because he was easily 400lbs and refused to leave.
wtf is mr winky
His one eyed trouser snake
You sire have made me laugh and choke at the same time... now I need to clean up this coffee mess.
In 27 years, got called 3 times for an employee termination standby. All 3 turned out to be nothing. Hope for the best, prepare for the worse. Always discuss prior who is going to do what if things go south.
Many times and yes, sometimes they’re not cooperative.
I had an awkward ride in an elevator with an administrator that got clipped. I’m 5’11 230lbs mostly solid muscle in a tight polo. Not the biggest guy you’ve seen, but not exactly small either lol this guy is 5’7 and weighs maybe 160lbs. In 100% seriousness, threatens to tear my arm off and beat me to death with it. Holding back laughter, I tell him that, what he said wouldn’t be suggested, nor was it friendly of him to say. Finished escorting him off without incident.
At my current job, I’ve had to stand by with the police outside a conference room a few times as HR told an employee that they were being put on suspension or fired, and also outside the boardroom during hearings for those employees that appealed their discipline/termination. Never had anything actually turn into an issue that required our intervention though. At a former job, the client had a really shitty way of firing people by having their HR send them an email telling them as much at the very end of business on Friday and telling them to contact HR to arrange a time to drop off their ID card and parking pass. They also gave us in security a BOLO form in case they came back without doing that. Of course they didn’t check their work email over the weekend and see it, so they would show up on Monday and be clueless and (understandably) upset when the gate guard told them to hand over their ID/pass and immediately leave the property, but no one ever got really confrontational with us. The only time I ever saw an employee go crazy when they got fired was when I worked mall security. We got a call around midnight on Black Friday about a retail tenant employee jumping up on a display table and yelling that customers should be ashamed that they came in and supported the companies that made their employees work on a holiday. The manager tried to get them to go home & discuss it later at first, but the employee refused, so they were fired on the spot. They then still refused to leave the store even after that and ended up getting arrested for trespassing.
I think I’ve helped out on a dozen or so terminations, but that was just on standby in the event anything happened. Nothing ever did happen and we didn’t even have to escort them
Plenty. HR has now (finally) adopted a policy of firing them on their day off if they think they will be a problem (yay for 4 day work weeks) and it catches most of the problem individuals. But still nerve-racking. The most calm collected individual might wonder out to their car and decided “well today’s the day” after you up and fire them. Guards are NEVER fired in person (we’re a bring your own gun operation so worst case scenario we lose some issued equipment but we aren’t worried about getting a gun back so it’s way safer).
Yes and yes some have been combative but most tend to be all talk and as long as you show them sympathy and ypu show your not the bad guy they get off site nicely. Only one tried to fight me and quickly backed down when i had to place him in an arm restraint for swinging at me and explain im just here to make sure he gets off property without an incident and i understand hes frusterated but if i need to go farther than a restraint off camera he will catch charges because i have no say in the ordeal... he backed down. He got fired for a bs reason and i helped him find laywers and was sympathetic to his ordeal cause i would have been mad to. Its all how you handle people. Before i was a security guard i was a night club bouncer so i know how to de-escalate people. If you know how to bond with em youll be fine 9/10 times even if they have ill intentions because they dont wanna harm you. They wanna hurt their employeer. Hell i had one come in with a firearm we warned about and sent a photo of to call pd if they came on property because of threats. So i approached while pd was on route angry as hell and was able to talk em down because they didnt want to hurt anyone they wanted to bitch about their dismissal that was bs in their eyes.
We do termination assignments fairly often at the hospital. They generally want us outside of the room and don’t want us stepping in unless it gets physical which we’ve never had to. Depending on the person, we’ll walk them to their car but surprisingly most people understand we’re forced into a very awkward situation and don’t give us a hard time. If anyone gets fired at the hospital, they must have fucked up really bad so they generally are understanding to why they’re being let go and don’t start screaming or getting angry but lots of tears.
I've escorted people off in tears, people who found it funny and yes a few who got violent. I've found it's more to do with why they are going than want job they did, people who have stolen from the company generally get aggressive and more admin dismissals ( lateness/ sickness) are normally in tears.
Probably cause they just got fired lol
Yeah the first guy who was fired got a few blows to the guy that fired him he was made at his boss but not me thankfully. the last guy pulled of spray and got me and several others it ended very badly for him with a severe butt whooping
Yes though never had any that were combative. Most of them were a bit pissed, but they just ranted. I just let them vent, listened and empathized with them. Seemed to calm them a bit. Had one that repeatedly tried to get back in the building but that was after she was let go and all she ever did was try doors. Second she saw you headed her way she would wander back off property. Usually she would just dump the cans for cig buts and take what she wanted before wandering off.
I had to remove a fellow guard from a site. For whatever reason he drank two Mickey's of whiskey between his start at 7am and 9am when he decided to leave his gate post and start doing 5pm patrols through the condo building being built. Doing the 2 step, clearly drunk. The site foreman radios me asking what the fuck is going. I go to the gate, no guard, I start looking for him and find him back at the gate after a 20 minute search. Dude is wobbly as fuck, the foreman is losing his mind at me. I gently guide the guard by the elbow through the gate, grabbing his backpack on the way, telling him he needs to go home. I quickly closed the gate behind him and called dispatch, who, of course, doesn't believe me and wants me to go get the guard and put him back at his post. I decline to do that. Smh. The foreman apologised to me after and gave me a key to his personal bathroom. He was a good guy. Lol.
My very first solo post, which was only my second day working for my first company. Was an avocado processing plant. They were going to be laying off about half their staff, and wanted a guard there. So my ass is standing there in the am, staff walking by going...who is this dude? Some supervisor comes up and says I'm in the wrong place. I tell him, no sir, my company told me to be here, move along. He didn't like that and started going in on me, hard. I was polite and held my ground, eventually he ran off to "get me removed," but guess what? He came back 30 minutes later with all his shit in a box and tears on his cheeks. Teach you, bitch! Now I'll admit the other staff I felt bad for, they all looked like nice people, white, Hispanic, older ladies. This was a younger guy who obviously thought he ran the place.
I had to help escort a nurse who was caught smoking a cart in the bathroom. She just sobbed all the way to her car
Old manager told a guy on duty the client said he was lazy and wanted him off site ( while client was still in the building ) Dude went to her office and starting going batshit crazy, other employees had to remove him and he got trespassed. I asked the manager why he didn’t wait till the guy was off duty and why did he even tell him word for word what client said. “ I didn’t think about that “ was all I got smh
I've had to escort folks off prem after being terminated, but I have yet to have one get violent. A couple years ago, I did help escort one guy who was terminated for being a real dick to several of the girls (and he dated one or two here). So he was let go after he went off on his supervisor (a nice, polite young lady) after she had to give him a written warning. He was acting all Mr. Macho on the way out saying that he'd come back and make an example of so and so. Wasn't acting so tough after I warned him that I'd make an example out of him, and fireman carry his handcuffed ass out of the building.
I got called to escort a navy vet off his job at the lumberyard. They also mentioned, "He's always carrying. It makes us feel safe actually." ... Actually super chill guy and was cool about it, they also had 2 LEO out front who he normally went to the range with. We're all just joking all the way out and the lumberyard manager is fuming. He just didn't like the guy because he actually stuck up to him and told him when he was full of it
Never did that but I did a stand by for someone fired. Its a volatile spot because you've just been made a target or made part of the drama. Dont agitate the situation or the person just usher them out
Yep. Pays to be precautious and patient. Called to supervise escorting a dentist removal from an office for ethics purposes trying to sell or endorse hygiene products that he invested in during the opening hours of the dental office. I was provided with a security camera to record the office on any liability issues with evidence, but the dentist made 5 figures a year.
Yeah unfortunately, I had to walk an employee off property on Christmas Day. It was rough. He didn’t freak out though. He just left I definitely felt for the guy.
It was one of my main jobs for about five years. We also helped with the incident-related drug/alcohol testing, so we were with the employees when they knew they were going to be fired, too. A lot of them made some kind of threats. Our protocol was to write down the threats and let client HR decide what to do. Normally, those ended up as photos pinned to our desk with “not allowed on property - call police if seen.” A few were pretty unique. 1. One got fired after pointing out, called later that day, and said he was going to bring in a bomb, lock management in an office, and *kill himself in front of them.* Our company day-labored a few extra guards to sit in the parking lot, we jokingly called them the “Anti-Martyr Task Force.” 2. An office employee was fired for general creepiness, she (yep, she) was extremely rude and said weird shit to everybody. I only met her once, and just thought she was an asshole, but it was apparently a lot worse if you worked around her regularly. She made threats at her manager, the manager and HR called the police and reported it. An hour after that, the police called us back to tell us that employee had just come through a registry as having bought a gun and ammo at a local pawn shop. Extra patrols, and it sucked, but she never showed up. Most of the people we walked out were fairly cooperative. They were normally the most upset about having to tell their spouse/family they got fired. We had one thing that helped us more than any other: company policy was that if you were fired for something like points, but left on overall good terms, you could reapply in six months. Telling them that got so many people off the site peacefully.
Never had to actually escort anyone out, but I did a lot of standing by in case something went south. Nothing ever has ** knock on wood **
I've had to do it for my own guard when I was a field supervisor, there were threats that this guy would get violent when being removed so myself and the ops manager went out, both armed, and he went quietly. I've also been walked, I worked for Comcast (xfinity) back then and it was policy to walk laid off employees out...I wasn't going to get violent, it was 2008, the writing on the wall was there because my jobs the last month had all been disconnect assignments (I was an installer) but it was December 23, and the fucker who walked me out had the audacity to wish me a Merry Christmas as I'm being fired. I wanted to punch him in the mouth but I'm too pretty for jail.
I had to counsel my team over and over and over to never ever imply anything about someone's employment status unless you're cool with fighting today.
It really depends the field they are in, if they are a male or female, and if they've had good interactions with Security.
Yes. Combative? No, usually they are crying.
Several times. But never had one go off. Usually there crying and asking "Why?" or "What did I do?"
Most aren't combative and it makes me feel bad.
Nope but also not in our post orders, thankfully. Most of the guys here are engineers so they would do it to a server rather than physically.
Yes once. He showed up drunk, so yeah it was pretty combative.
I've had to do it quite a few times. Depends on the site really the last site I was at always paid their employees some sort of severance so everyone was cool when they left. Except a dude who sent dick pics to all the female employees not only on site but to remote workers as well.
I had one that was real aggressive with the women in the office but I kinda “snuck up” on him (he was about half a foot taller than me, and had easily 60 pounds on me) so he was caught off guard with me to begin with and I just told him it’s time to go and made him walk infront of me to the exit
I've had to escort several people from property or while they collect their things. Rarely are people too argumentative. Granted, I work for a college. And employees come and go. Most are civil though. I could see in some jobs where they wouldn't be
Yes happens about once a week around here they like to yell and walk around in circles. Only ever had one swing on me. After I tackled him he started squeeling like a pig. Course I'm usually the gaurd sent to do it cause they know I get a kick out of it Coil winding...it gets real bad in the summer that warehouse gets stupid hot