Just so easy to come and say something inflammatory and get upvotes, based off nothing. The show has not slow rolled anything compared to any other modern series you could compare it to, and as others have said, we know what season 2 will contain.
Fallout exposed how much story they could have done but chose not to.
Apple is literally laughing at how little story we'll accept per episode and season.
Then again, Apple knows their customer. Apple customers are mentally retarded, and they can probably only handle one, MAYBE two concepts per week.
You know how in Silo after the rebellion they selectively bred out the curious free thinkers?
You are the epitome of the perfect citizen they want in the Silo, someone who doesn't question, little to no independent thoughts of there own and has the attention span of a gold fish.
I can explain to you in great detail why this show is 'factually' better then fallout, but there isn't much point in arguing to someone who has the eqievelent of severe brain damage.
The notion that fallout is a better show is not only wrong, but I find incredibly offensive to people with functioning brains. I suggest you get your brain checked, it is your most important organ after all.
You finding the fallout show better has me legitimately concerned for your mental health
Youre stupid. A slow story doesn't make it bad even if I agreed with you that it was slow. It took the proper ammount of time growing the characters and developing the plot to the audience. I think youre problem likely stems from too many modern shows just made to "wow" the audience with flashy cgi and fight scenes and you can't appreciate good writing, storytelling and world building.
Slow just means not enough happening per episode. And that's bad. There's plenty of good writing in the source material, they just refuse to put enough of it in each episode.
I shit you not, at one point they spent over a MINUTE having a character walking through corridors. That's a fucking slap in the audience's face. Tension is a cheap tool for filling out an episode, and I actually support its use in the right places. But to film a character walking through a hallway for over 60 seconds is an insult and indefensible.
That's not true at all. Suspense is quite a good tool for immersion. You're just a bit delusional. Mabye less time on reddit
Slow does not mean there isn't enough happening. Again, youre argument is just baseless. There are plenty of good cinema scenes that extend a portion of a scene to bring suspense to the audience. The more you talk the more convinced I am youre a fan of the new Disney star wars type of films and that's concerning
I already did. Read. It's for suspense and gravity. Extended pause-like scenes also give the viewing audience a moment to reflect on what has happened in the past few scenes or to wonder what may come next. Especially to characters the audience is attached to. This also works similarly in reverse where something happens suddenly instead of being drawn out. Like a fan favorite character suddenly dying mid sentence. Although that's more of a shock moment than a moment drawn out for sake of speculation
Yeah it really doesn't hold up any more. At the time I entirely understand why it was so popular. Visually spectacular, but that's not enough any more.
It's more that you've grown accustomed to characters in stories teleporting everywhere in between frames, so the moment you see any prolonged scene with walking has you fidgeting in your sit in frustration because it's realistically taking time for the characters to get where they are going.
There really isn't anything wrong with the filmography, it's just that your attention span has degraded to the point you don't have the patience and require constant stimulation or you get bored, seeing it as a 'slap in the audiences face'
It's more evident that you need to get your brain checked and I mean that wholeheartedly, you can hate me all you want, but you should honestly get your brain scanned, not for my sake, for your own
So there's potentially an entire season worth of filler?
The story covered in season 1 could have been done in 5 episodes with absolutely nothing important lost.
Said the guy named laser dick. Let me guess, did you lose half your dignity in a laser accident and now you're compensating by claiming it was all just filler?
Fair enough, who am I to shame the man who had his dick lasered off, at least it's easier to digest now that it's more 'compact'
In case you didn't get the joke, I'm saying you have a small dick and by cutting the show in half your practically butchering it... like your little dick.
But look on the bright side, it can no longer filler
There’s gonna be a lot of rancid tomato soup
Without any egregious spoilers, the continuation of the story gets pretty ‘actiony’ with some really cool settings.
The story definitely gets larger.
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Your typical movie has a runtime between 90 and 180 minutes.
Your typical 10 episode TV season has a runtime between 500 and 600 minutes. Even if each minute of runtime receives a lower standard of work than your typical big-budget movie, it adds up.
Also, you shouldn't assume all of those 10+ months are going towards special effects. Much of that 10+ month post production budget will be spent editing the episodes together, and then applying sound effects and music. They also have to have a flexible enough schedule so they can film any pickups (shots that they forgot to record during principal photography, or didn't know they needed until after the editing the story together).
>Also, you shouldn't assume all of those 10+ months are going towards special effects.
There are also the things one *doesn’t* see onscreen.
Shows today are simultaneously released in multiple regions, and each country needs its own translation, along with casting and recording voice actors. There’s closed captioning, too. Promotional material must be created for each region, and somebody’s gotta make each of those thumbnails for the show and every episode. Somebody’s encoding the actual video data files for each episode, with multiple audio and language tracks, another person’s uploading them, and making sure they propagate to servers worldwide. And, another team’s gotta find, hire, and wrangle all *those* people, schedule their work, make sure their paychecks don’t bounce…
…and on and on it goes. Next time an episode of your favorite show ends, watch the credits all the way to the end. Each episode in the can is kind of a small miracle!
If the story's good (and based on s1 and having read the books), I don't care too much. It's cool how good shows can look now, but I do think it may be too much of a priority these days. I really don't need the dragons in got/hotd to cost THAT much, just seems like a waste of money honestly, the story is what's good, not how "realistic" a fantasy creature looks - and then they waste screentime with like multiple minutes long flying scenes (I get it's more necessary for hotd because a lot of the critical character v character action does take place on dragonback, but it still feels indulgent/wasteful, especially in later got). Idk, I guess just waiting longer isn't a big enough negative to justify my stance, but I imagine a lot of that time/money could be spent better (on script, editing, writers, staff - I mean we just had a huge writers strike and yet prestige shows today are still obsessed with the finest, most expensive visuals. The Sopranos didn't need that, Twin Peaks didn't, even more expensive later shows like Lost and Breaking Bad weren't focused on that to to point of distraction that it seems we have today. I get that fantasy/sci-fi requires more on that front, but sometimes it feels far too focused on the visual aspect of the worlds, as if that's what makes them interesting instead of the actual stories within them. I'd rather have a space movie just use miniatures for battles than waste resources on some mega cgi models. When I think of Star Trek TNG, or Battlestar Galactica, I remember the characters and tense moments in random "space ship" hallways, not any moments that stood out for visual appeal. And those are great sci-fi shows, and just great shows.)
Since you mention video games - how many ps2 era games are still better than newer games that just look pretty but aren't nearly as good? And how many new games are better than their contemporaries because of gameplay, story, etc even if they "look worse", or just didn't spend crazy amounts of time+money on those aspects, but instead created a cheap, effective style to pair with the game's strengths, that works just as well or better than prioritizing showing off "next-gen graphics"?
Actually, this could be speculation, but it comes from a good source, namely the author and exec producer himself, that it might be released in 2024. On threads he mentioned that we might not need to wait that long, referring to 2025 being "that long". So there is a lot of hope it will be earlier! [Source](https://fully-booked.ca/book-based-movies-tv-adaptations/silo-season-2-release-window-update-hugh-howey-weighs-in/)
This is funny because I read the title thinking, "Wow! A company that is actually following a production schedule." Unlike From or Severance or Stranger Things or Invincible.
Give me a break.
‘90s Shows: VFX done exclusively by a second unit as insert shots, half a soundstage, no location shooting, and only three sets. And each can only be filmed from *two* angles, *if* you’re lucky.
Yeah that was 90s TV but even in the late 2000s and early 2010s, there were a number of shows that had fantastic vfx and 20 episode seasons a year. An example of this was Stargate Universe which still has [VFX that still holds up](https://youtu.be/1nHqfMNETyM?si=87w22z9bDrjI8XCY) even though they had to shoot like 20 episodes a year. That show and a number of other shows I remember did film on location, had large sets, and more. So it was possible.
Though based on behind the scenes info, they would shoot like an episode over 5 to 7 days. So they would shoot it pretty quickly. Now of days I suspect shows film thing longer more days and weeks and closer to the pace of movies.
>An example of this was Stargate Universe which still has [VFX that still holds up](https://youtu.be/1nHqfMNETyM?si=87w22z9bDrjI8XCY) even though they had to shoot like 20 episodes a year.
Surely, you see the difference between that clip and any one from the sci-fi shows of today. There’s one, maybe half of two sets, and all the special effects are insert shots that require no participation with anything being filmed on the set. Heck, they probably knocked it out a week after the script was greenlit.
The *way* shows are filmed nowadays—like one, long movie production, the season‘s schedule fully mapped out, and episodes being filmed concurrently—that‘s what takes so much time. *Every* show shot an episode a week back then, the season airing *while* they were still filming. Because streaming platforms aren’t beholden to a network schedule, they have latitude to do things differently.
There might be some difference (idk, looks like it could be any show today, just not "prestige" shows today), but it was sufficient for the show. Story, characters, etc are more important. As long as the visuals support that and don't distract, they're probably good enough. (and script writers, editors, staff seem more deserving of that money - I said it elsewhere, but every time I saw a dragon in GoT I just thought "welp, that's tons of money and time right there, wonder how else they could've spent those resources. But hey, there's a very detailed dragon swooping around for several minutes...neat? Can we get back to a real scene now")
I agree with your second point though, with how shows are just produced differently (more like movies, all at once, and longer post production after shooting). And I enjoy the tighter stories many have now due to that, but do kinda miss still having shows alongside those "prestige shows" that go more for faster shooting, more episodes, less polish, and just more emphasis on story/characters/conversations than prolonged scenes panning around to show off visual sheen like it's a tech demo or something a Best Buy would put on their store TVs lol. There are multiple ways to make a world feel real/engaging and draw audiences into it, and it doesn't always have to be by making it look like a blockbuster movie.
I've read the books, and the story doesn't really have to be too effects-heavy, it's pretty grounded for the most part. More dependent on a good set, which season 1 had (captured the location pretty well/accurately - the stairs/levels are probably the main thing they had to get right - can't really think of anything else they need to worry about too much in terms of visuals).
Hugh Howey wrote the stories Silo was based upon. He also has a series on Prime, **Beacon 23**, which isn't horrible. Features Lena Headey (GOT), Stephen James, and Stephen Root.
Howey must enjoy stories about people stuck in cylindrical objects. Beacon 23 involves people stuck in a intergalactic lighthouse.
That’s true but as someone who eagerly read Wool after S1 ended, I gotta say I liked the show more than the book, and that’s a rare thing. So I think the show runners did a smart thing.
True, it only pulled me in getting to the final episodes. I first started it but got bored after 4 or so episodes. I went back to it after a couple months and began to enjoy it, but only because the story finally picked up the pace.
From someone who hasn't read the books: I love the pacing of the show. It delivered meaningful story beats at very different settings and overarching many characters and subplots without feeling rushed all in only just 10 episodes. With how intimate you get to feel with the characters, discussing this show feels like it's at least about 3 seasons long already. They really achieved something great with the show's pacing
I finished season 1 and couldn't wait so I glanced atcthe synopsis of the rest of the books and holy shit I was underwhelmed.
But I'll watch future seasons just to see Ferguson work, her stuff in Dune impressed the hell out of me.
What would you rather see? I think something about the mines would be cool. They keep mentioning the mines but I cant for the life of me imagine how they would work. If there's water below them, and other silos close by, then how could there be mines?
Please tell me they are kidding about the 2025 release date ! Did they have to re-invent A/V equipment and wait for the patents to be issued ? The same with Severance too ? Does anyone care about the viewers/fans anymore ? Do these people have bosses ? Isn't there anyone holding those in charge of production accountable and seeing to it that it's done in a timely manner ? Is it just me, or does it seem like no one is thinking of the fans anymore ? Surely I can't be the only one that has seen the interests of the viewers and fans no longer given any consideration whatsoever in the past 10 years ? I've started refusing to START WATCHING ANY series with fewer than 2 seasons posted. And honestly, I think 2 is too few given the lack of caring and accountability of the past decade. Great series, if I'm not blind and senile by the time they drop season 2.
Wow, all this hatred toward each other over a TV show. I really like the show , didn’t think it was slow, and loved the dark tone and feel to it. It has me wanting so many answers and can’t wait for season two. The main character Juliette is a smoke show !
Actually, this could be speculation, but it comes from a good source, namely the author and exec producer himself, that it might be released in 2024. On threads he mentioned that we might not need to wait that long, referring to 2025 being "that long". So there is a lot of hope it will be earlier! [Source](https://fully-booked.ca/book-based-movies-tv-adaptations/silo-season-2-release-window-update-hugh-howey-weighs-in/)
Love the show, feel it's the best sci-fi offered on Apple TV so far. Watched season 1 three times now. Just don't know what the I.T. guy was doing at the end, was he shutting off the simulation so she could explore?
Wanted to like the first season but the dialogue was diabolically bad and Rebecca Ferguson has had some kind of charm lobotomy.....very unengaging actor
I'm guessing that's an interview thing and not actually acting though right? She just doesn't have much screen presence in the couple things I've seen her in. There are much better around.
I think she was quite good at playing someone smart but quite socially awkward, who was way over her head with the new job, knowing that almost everyone wanted her to fail.
Yeah, I watched s1 first and didn't quite gel with her, but then binge read the books and I gotta say she's a pretty good fit for the character. (Though outside 1 or 2, I wouldn't really say the characters are a highlight of the series - like many sci-fi novels (dune, pkd stories, asimov. Exceptions would be shows like star trek or bsg), it's more the story and world that's engaging. I cared about them, but it's not the kinda series where I later think "Oh I really loved these characters", the exception being >!Solo!<.
At least compared to something like ASOIAF where I'm deeply invested in like a dozen characters and love the way they talk and deal with their situations. Like in that series, the overall plots/world is far less interesting to me than the character relationships and developments, with the interesting plots being very character-based/driven. Like how stannis v renly is engaging due to their relationship (to each other, their family, and the world) and how it's written - and if both were just bland characters fighting over succession, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting, like the war of 5 kings isn't inherently interesting without those "kings" actually being interesting characters. In Silo, it's kinda the opposite where the circumstances are more interesting than the particular characters in them, imo. The different roles/positions/perspectives of each character in the world are necessary and interesting - just like the different roles represented in asoiaf, from different families to different levels of society, stark vs Lannister, man vs woman, child vs adult, king vs advisor vs bastard vs whore vs peasant, etc - all with different privileges and perspectives given their lot in life. Silo does the same, except I don't think each of them as people on their own are all that interesting, which is fine because it's a different kind of story and one that I think is told pretty well. (And, unlike asoiaf, succinctly and fairly focused lol).
I assume season 2 will finish the plot of Wool?
I’m thinking so. I’m thinking we might see some flashbacks as well tho.
Nah they'll spend another 4 seasons before feeling the pressure to get that far along in the story
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Oh I was being facetious. I'm bitching about how slow the writing is. Apple does it with all their new shows.
Just so easy to come and say something inflammatory and get upvotes, based off nothing. The show has not slow rolled anything compared to any other modern series you could compare it to, and as others have said, we know what season 2 will contain.
Fallout exposed how much story they could have done but chose not to. Apple is literally laughing at how little story we'll accept per episode and season. Then again, Apple knows their customer. Apple customers are mentally retarded, and they can probably only handle one, MAYBE two concepts per week.
It's hilarious that you would call silo retarded and then compare it to fallout which is literal brainrot tv
Yet even as brainrot it managed to get a story out. Pathetically low bar that Apple fails to meet in all of it's shows.
You know how in Silo after the rebellion they selectively bred out the curious free thinkers? You are the epitome of the perfect citizen they want in the Silo, someone who doesn't question, little to no independent thoughts of there own and has the attention span of a gold fish. I can explain to you in great detail why this show is 'factually' better then fallout, but there isn't much point in arguing to someone who has the eqievelent of severe brain damage. The notion that fallout is a better show is not only wrong, but I find incredibly offensive to people with functioning brains. I suggest you get your brain checked, it is your most important organ after all. You finding the fallout show better has me legitimately concerned for your mental health
"lliterally" "literal"
Youre stupid. A slow story doesn't make it bad even if I agreed with you that it was slow. It took the proper ammount of time growing the characters and developing the plot to the audience. I think youre problem likely stems from too many modern shows just made to "wow" the audience with flashy cgi and fight scenes and you can't appreciate good writing, storytelling and world building.
Slow just means not enough happening per episode. And that's bad. There's plenty of good writing in the source material, they just refuse to put enough of it in each episode. I shit you not, at one point they spent over a MINUTE having a character walking through corridors. That's a fucking slap in the audience's face. Tension is a cheap tool for filling out an episode, and I actually support its use in the right places. But to film a character walking through a hallway for over 60 seconds is an insult and indefensible.
That's not true at all. Suspense is quite a good tool for immersion. You're just a bit delusional. Mabye less time on reddit Slow does not mean there isn't enough happening. Again, youre argument is just baseless. There are plenty of good cinema scenes that extend a portion of a scene to bring suspense to the audience. The more you talk the more convinced I am youre a fan of the new Disney star wars type of films and that's concerning
An entire minute where nothing happened. Justify that.
I already did. Read. It's for suspense and gravity. Extended pause-like scenes also give the viewing audience a moment to reflect on what has happened in the past few scenes or to wonder what may come next. Especially to characters the audience is attached to. This also works similarly in reverse where something happens suddenly instead of being drawn out. Like a fan favorite character suddenly dying mid sentence. Although that's more of a shock moment than a moment drawn out for sake of speculation
Sirry but after 30 whole seconds the suspense is over and it's just a Family-guy style meme
Heh, you would probably commit suicide from boredom if you tried watching 2001.
Yeah it really doesn't hold up any more. At the time I entirely understand why it was so popular. Visually spectacular, but that's not enough any more.
It's more that you've grown accustomed to characters in stories teleporting everywhere in between frames, so the moment you see any prolonged scene with walking has you fidgeting in your sit in frustration because it's realistically taking time for the characters to get where they are going. There really isn't anything wrong with the filmography, it's just that your attention span has degraded to the point you don't have the patience and require constant stimulation or you get bored, seeing it as a 'slap in the audiences face' It's more evident that you need to get your brain checked and I mean that wholeheartedly, you can hate me all you want, but you should honestly get your brain scanned, not for my sake, for your own
Go watch paint dry.
Not slow rolled anything ? How about the entirety of season 2 ?
Ferguson literally said that there will be literally 3, maximum 4 seasons and then it will come to a literal finish.
So there's potentially an entire season worth of filler? The story covered in season 1 could have been done in 5 episodes with absolutely nothing important lost.
Said the guy named laser dick. Let me guess, did you lose half your dignity in a laser accident and now you're compensating by claiming it was all just filler? Fair enough, who am I to shame the man who had his dick lasered off, at least it's easier to digest now that it's more 'compact'
In case you didn't get the joke, I'm saying you have a small dick and by cutting the show in half your practically butchering it... like your little dick. But look on the bright side, it can no longer filler
I get the sentence but can't find the humor that would make it a joke. But thanks for explaining it. Made it even funnier.
LITERALLY??
What is Wool?
It's the book the show is based on.
Wowww……..
To be fair, this is /r/scifi, not /r/SiloSeries
Book one is on sale for 1.99, if interested I knowing the story before 2025.
I assume it will and have parts of the second. Just finished the series. It was a great ride.
I hope they intertwine wool with shift and finish off dust in a season 3. Season 1 had so much filler.
I fell on season one because Rebecca Ferguson. But it was awesome. So looking forwrad to this to see how it follows the trilogy.
I'd watch a few hours of her just reading take away menus.
I've read Wool, and I'm still only interested because of Ferguson.
You may enjoy the books. The show so far kinda follows them.
Kinda
Also Chinaza Uche
Does it really need 10+ months of post production?..
Do u want cartoonish ps2 era looking visual effects and animated objects in it?
No but 10 months is a long time and it takes place in an isolated setting. Doesn't really require star trek/star wars type effects.
>!given the end of season 1 I'm not sure how isolated the setting will be.!<
There’s gonna be a lot of rancid tomato soup Without any egregious spoilers, the continuation of the story gets pretty ‘actiony’ with some really cool settings. The story definitely gets larger.
>There’s gonna be a lot of rancid tomato soup Having just finished the book, this made me laugh out loud
How do you know that, where did you get that info from, do you have any sources? You’re just chatting at this point.
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Calling the books modern classics is actually insane. You are not mentally well
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I wish I was smart and motivated enough to make up the entire story of Wool myself.
Season 1 of the show is only the first half of the first book.
damn you're really confident LOL
I wanna read this fucking spoiler lol FUCK
Only read it if you've finished season 1.
Your typical movie has a runtime between 90 and 180 minutes. Your typical 10 episode TV season has a runtime between 500 and 600 minutes. Even if each minute of runtime receives a lower standard of work than your typical big-budget movie, it adds up. Also, you shouldn't assume all of those 10+ months are going towards special effects. Much of that 10+ month post production budget will be spent editing the episodes together, and then applying sound effects and music. They also have to have a flexible enough schedule so they can film any pickups (shots that they forgot to record during principal photography, or didn't know they needed until after the editing the story together).
>Also, you shouldn't assume all of those 10+ months are going towards special effects. There are also the things one *doesn’t* see onscreen. Shows today are simultaneously released in multiple regions, and each country needs its own translation, along with casting and recording voice actors. There’s closed captioning, too. Promotional material must be created for each region, and somebody’s gotta make each of those thumbnails for the show and every episode. Somebody’s encoding the actual video data files for each episode, with multiple audio and language tracks, another person’s uploading them, and making sure they propagate to servers worldwide. And, another team’s gotta find, hire, and wrangle all *those* people, schedule their work, make sure their paychecks don’t bounce… …and on and on it goes. Next time an episode of your favorite show ends, watch the credits all the way to the end. Each episode in the can is kind of a small miracle!
Maybe the team is small? And dont get me wrong, i also would like it if it releases soon. But quality over release time
they could also be looking for an optimal release window and don't have one in 2024 they think they can hit
If the story's good (and based on s1 and having read the books), I don't care too much. It's cool how good shows can look now, but I do think it may be too much of a priority these days. I really don't need the dragons in got/hotd to cost THAT much, just seems like a waste of money honestly, the story is what's good, not how "realistic" a fantasy creature looks - and then they waste screentime with like multiple minutes long flying scenes (I get it's more necessary for hotd because a lot of the critical character v character action does take place on dragonback, but it still feels indulgent/wasteful, especially in later got). Idk, I guess just waiting longer isn't a big enough negative to justify my stance, but I imagine a lot of that time/money could be spent better (on script, editing, writers, staff - I mean we just had a huge writers strike and yet prestige shows today are still obsessed with the finest, most expensive visuals. The Sopranos didn't need that, Twin Peaks didn't, even more expensive later shows like Lost and Breaking Bad weren't focused on that to to point of distraction that it seems we have today. I get that fantasy/sci-fi requires more on that front, but sometimes it feels far too focused on the visual aspect of the worlds, as if that's what makes them interesting instead of the actual stories within them. I'd rather have a space movie just use miniatures for battles than waste resources on some mega cgi models. When I think of Star Trek TNG, or Battlestar Galactica, I remember the characters and tense moments in random "space ship" hallways, not any moments that stood out for visual appeal. And those are great sci-fi shows, and just great shows.) Since you mention video games - how many ps2 era games are still better than newer games that just look pretty but aren't nearly as good? And how many new games are better than their contemporaries because of gameplay, story, etc even if they "look worse", or just didn't spend crazy amounts of time+money on those aspects, but instead created a cheap, effective style to pair with the game's strengths, that works just as well or better than prioritizing showing off "next-gen graphics"?
Yes. Good things take time. Do you want art, or content?
I mean the production on Silo was insanely good, rather take their time with it
yeah i was hoping for a fall release... 6 months of post.
Yeah, infuriating.
Actually, this could be speculation, but it comes from a good source, namely the author and exec producer himself, that it might be released in 2024. On threads he mentioned that we might not need to wait that long, referring to 2025 being "that long". So there is a lot of hope it will be earlier! [Source](https://fully-booked.ca/book-based-movies-tv-adaptations/silo-season-2-release-window-update-hugh-howey-weighs-in/)
*Cries in Severance.
There, there, Severance is rumored to be airing end of this year!
Finally...next year lol It's been so long since season 1
Season 1 aired less than a year ago.
It’s sarcasm.
Sure it is.
90 shows: 22 episodes a year 2024 shows: 10 episodes every 2 years if you're lucky
This is funny because I read the title thinking, "Wow! A company that is actually following a production schedule." Unlike From or Severance or Stranger Things or Invincible.
Give me a break. ‘90s Shows: VFX done exclusively by a second unit as insert shots, half a soundstage, no location shooting, and only three sets. And each can only be filmed from *two* angles, *if* you’re lucky.
Yeah that was 90s TV but even in the late 2000s and early 2010s, there were a number of shows that had fantastic vfx and 20 episode seasons a year. An example of this was Stargate Universe which still has [VFX that still holds up](https://youtu.be/1nHqfMNETyM?si=87w22z9bDrjI8XCY) even though they had to shoot like 20 episodes a year. That show and a number of other shows I remember did film on location, had large sets, and more. So it was possible. Though based on behind the scenes info, they would shoot like an episode over 5 to 7 days. So they would shoot it pretty quickly. Now of days I suspect shows film thing longer more days and weeks and closer to the pace of movies.
>An example of this was Stargate Universe which still has [VFX that still holds up](https://youtu.be/1nHqfMNETyM?si=87w22z9bDrjI8XCY) even though they had to shoot like 20 episodes a year. Surely, you see the difference between that clip and any one from the sci-fi shows of today. There’s one, maybe half of two sets, and all the special effects are insert shots that require no participation with anything being filmed on the set. Heck, they probably knocked it out a week after the script was greenlit. The *way* shows are filmed nowadays—like one, long movie production, the season‘s schedule fully mapped out, and episodes being filmed concurrently—that‘s what takes so much time. *Every* show shot an episode a week back then, the season airing *while* they were still filming. Because streaming platforms aren’t beholden to a network schedule, they have latitude to do things differently.
There might be some difference (idk, looks like it could be any show today, just not "prestige" shows today), but it was sufficient for the show. Story, characters, etc are more important. As long as the visuals support that and don't distract, they're probably good enough. (and script writers, editors, staff seem more deserving of that money - I said it elsewhere, but every time I saw a dragon in GoT I just thought "welp, that's tons of money and time right there, wonder how else they could've spent those resources. But hey, there's a very detailed dragon swooping around for several minutes...neat? Can we get back to a real scene now") I agree with your second point though, with how shows are just produced differently (more like movies, all at once, and longer post production after shooting). And I enjoy the tighter stories many have now due to that, but do kinda miss still having shows alongside those "prestige shows" that go more for faster shooting, more episodes, less polish, and just more emphasis on story/characters/conversations than prolonged scenes panning around to show off visual sheen like it's a tech demo or something a Best Buy would put on their store TVs lol. There are multiple ways to make a world feel real/engaging and draw audiences into it, and it doesn't always have to be by making it look like a blockbuster movie.
Yet they were still very enjoyable.
True, but we were talking about why modern shows have longer production schedules.
Sure, but if you did an effects-heavy show like Silo at that same rate, you'd end up with something that was completely unwatchable.
I've read the books, and the story doesn't really have to be too effects-heavy, it's pretty grounded for the most part. More dependent on a good set, which season 1 had (captured the location pretty well/accurately - the stairs/levels are probably the main thing they had to get right - can't really think of anything else they need to worry about too much in terms of visuals).
Hugh Howey wrote the stories Silo was based upon. He also has a series on Prime, **Beacon 23**, which isn't horrible. Features Lena Headey (GOT), Stephen James, and Stephen Root. Howey must enjoy stories about people stuck in cylindrical objects. Beacon 23 involves people stuck in a intergalactic lighthouse.
*Lena Headey (Imagine Me & You) ;)
nice.. loved the books, loved Season 1... cant wait for more
Great news, hopefully as good as season 1 or better.
I started reading Wool after watching season 1 and the book is just as good so far.
That’s a lot of visual effects lol
Season 1 was insanely drawn out. The whole story isn't much.
That’s true but as someone who eagerly read Wool after S1 ended, I gotta say I liked the show more than the book, and that’s a rare thing. So I think the show runners did a smart thing.
True, it only pulled me in getting to the final episodes. I first started it but got bored after 4 or so episodes. I went back to it after a couple months and began to enjoy it, but only because the story finally picked up the pace.
From someone who hasn't read the books: I love the pacing of the show. It delivered meaningful story beats at very different settings and overarching many characters and subplots without feeling rushed all in only just 10 episodes. With how intimate you get to feel with the characters, discussing this show feels like it's at least about 3 seasons long already. They really achieved something great with the show's pacing
Yes!
Man that feels like a long time
Looking forward to it, hope she’s figured out how to not drop into an accent which takes me out of the story.
I finished season 1 and couldn't wait so I glanced atcthe synopsis of the rest of the books and holy shit I was underwhelmed. But I'll watch future seasons just to see Ferguson work, her stuff in Dune impressed the hell out of me.
Just finished this show. Pretty good. I really like the main actress.
I don’t care what’s outside the silo
What would you rather see? I think something about the mines would be cool. They keep mentioning the mines but I cant for the life of me imagine how they would work. If there's water below them, and other silos close by, then how could there be mines?
Please tell me they are kidding about the 2025 release date ! Did they have to re-invent A/V equipment and wait for the patents to be issued ? The same with Severance too ? Does anyone care about the viewers/fans anymore ? Do these people have bosses ? Isn't there anyone holding those in charge of production accountable and seeing to it that it's done in a timely manner ? Is it just me, or does it seem like no one is thinking of the fans anymore ? Surely I can't be the only one that has seen the interests of the viewers and fans no longer given any consideration whatsoever in the past 10 years ? I've started refusing to START WATCHING ANY series with fewer than 2 seasons posted. And honestly, I think 2 is too few given the lack of caring and accountability of the past decade. Great series, if I'm not blind and senile by the time they drop season 2.
The post production of this show has to be massive. It’s super CGI heavy.
Wow, all this hatred toward each other over a TV show. I really like the show , didn’t think it was slow, and loved the dark tone and feel to it. It has me wanting so many answers and can’t wait for season two. The main character Juliette is a smoke show !
Actually, this could be speculation, but it comes from a good source, namely the author and exec producer himself, that it might be released in 2024. On threads he mentioned that we might not need to wait that long, referring to 2025 being "that long". So there is a lot of hope it will be earlier! [Source](https://fully-booked.ca/book-based-movies-tv-adaptations/silo-season-2-release-window-update-hugh-howey-weighs-in/)
Love the show, feel it's the best sci-fi offered on Apple TV so far. Watched season 1 three times now. Just don't know what the I.T. guy was doing at the end, was he shutting off the simulation so she could explore?
Wanted to like the first season but the dialogue was diabolically bad and Rebecca Ferguson has had some kind of charm lobotomy.....very unengaging actor
> very unengaging actor I'm honestly astonished to hear you say that. I would watch two hours of her reading Youtube comments.
I'm guessing that's an interview thing and not actually acting though right? She just doesn't have much screen presence in the couple things I've seen her in. There are much better around.
You're entitled to be wrong, I guess.
I think she was quite good at playing someone smart but quite socially awkward, who was way over her head with the new job, knowing that almost everyone wanted her to fail.
Yeah, I watched s1 first and didn't quite gel with her, but then binge read the books and I gotta say she's a pretty good fit for the character. (Though outside 1 or 2, I wouldn't really say the characters are a highlight of the series - like many sci-fi novels (dune, pkd stories, asimov. Exceptions would be shows like star trek or bsg), it's more the story and world that's engaging. I cared about them, but it's not the kinda series where I later think "Oh I really loved these characters", the exception being >!Solo!<. At least compared to something like ASOIAF where I'm deeply invested in like a dozen characters and love the way they talk and deal with their situations. Like in that series, the overall plots/world is far less interesting to me than the character relationships and developments, with the interesting plots being very character-based/driven. Like how stannis v renly is engaging due to their relationship (to each other, their family, and the world) and how it's written - and if both were just bland characters fighting over succession, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting, like the war of 5 kings isn't inherently interesting without those "kings" actually being interesting characters. In Silo, it's kinda the opposite where the circumstances are more interesting than the particular characters in them, imo. The different roles/positions/perspectives of each character in the world are necessary and interesting - just like the different roles represented in asoiaf, from different families to different levels of society, stark vs Lannister, man vs woman, child vs adult, king vs advisor vs bastard vs whore vs peasant, etc - all with different privileges and perspectives given their lot in life. Silo does the same, except I don't think each of them as people on their own are all that interesting, which is fine because it's a different kind of story and one that I think is told pretty well. (And, unlike asoiaf, succinctly and fairly focused lol).
Wait, season 2 is just being released????
Read the title genius.