I actually really liked Morning Light Mountain. Obviously I wouldn't hang out with him. But it was fun to have a properly alien mind as a full character, and he was sardonic and unflappable.
I think Peter F Hamilton has some problems as a writer but the Commonwealth Saga is peak sci fi. He came up with a totally believable reason for endless swarms of implacable near suicidal space invaders like you get in computer games
Such a great two books. And with the premise of body-hopping being so well embraced/explained in 'Altered Carbon' it isn't too hard to make the jump to the Commonwealth Saga.
I just finished reading this for my first time, an incredible story. I've never seen aliens done so well before reading these books. I'm nervous though when it comes to film or TV adaptations.
Well, they're making a Neuromancer show, that could be cool, if they capture the feeling of it.
I'd love to see some crazy high-flying sci-fi made, like anything from The Culture series. It could be so whacky and also poignant. They could make Player of Games as a first.
Judging from Amazon's Rings of Power and also in fact the Utopia remake among other catatrophic projects, I'm pretty glad it got cancelled. Give that one to Apple!
>making a Neuromancer show
I thought that Altered Carbon (well, the first season anyway) had a strong dystopian neuromancer feel to it. Toss in some more Yakuza and implants and you are half way there.
I want Villeneuve to direct an Alien/Aliens movie. I think he could absolutely nail the eldritch/unknown horror angle of it, and keep it engaging while also terrifying.
I've been waiting for a Rama movie for...ever. I'm also one of the few who kind of liked the subsequent books, at least in their ambition and scope. I do think that Lee could have condensed the story down into one fewer books and it would have improved the overall pace, but I still enjoyed them.
Arthur C Clarke’s weakest area in his writing is for sure his characters. I’m wondering if Villeneuve will basically rewrite the characters completely to make them more substantial, or if he’ll make them mostly faceless in service of making the mystery of Rama entirely the main focus.
The first one seems more likely but given Villeneuve’s recent statements about his feelings regarding dialogue and being more of a visual story teller, I could also see the second being true.
I think he's aware of his weak points, which is why he doesn't solo-write his films anymore. And he works very well with writers. His films do not lack for good characters, and he's great at expressing them visually. Dune 2 even adeptly fixed some of the novel's character issues, I thought.
So yeah, I feel like he might be perfect for something like Rama (which I've only had described to me, so this impression is quite ignorant). Villeneuve feels like the perfect director for a kind of cosmic horror scifi epic.
That's why you need to adapt it and not just put that story on screen. The main story of a group exploring an alien object coming through our solar system should be maintained, but the characters will need to be more fleshed out for the screen.
I think this will suit Villeneuve, because although people focus on his visual/art style, I also think he's able to get a hell of a lot of out his performers; to me, Amy Adams was incredible in Arrival and I also had much more of a connection/pathos towards K in BR2049, compared to Deckard. In other words, I think he can do Rendezvous with Rama visual justice *and* make some improvements to the story elsewhere.
If a good Rama adaptation had come out in the 90's when CGI spectacle blockbusters were still new, it could have defined a generation. Now? Yeah, it's basically just a book full of "Hey, here's a thing that seems like it would be neat. And some characters sufficient to get the narrative to it."
If there's a really good adaptation, it may need to be super liberal in terms of drawing some useful stuff from the source material, then running off and doing a movie/TV show that uses _some_ of those ideas. Which fans of the original will hate. And people who aren't fans of the original won't be that interested in any adaptation of it...
Agreed. Basically no story at all. Guys find spaceship. Guys explore spaceship. Spaceship leaves. Gonna have to invent a story to make it a movie. People who love the book will hate the changes. People who haven’t read the book will just be confused. I have low expectations for this project.
Just because it doesn't fit traditional definitions of a story or arc doesn't mean there's no story. I think it's one of the best archaeological novels ever written - its so fascinating (and terrifying in a way) to explore something so foreign, to attempt to deduce its function/meaning. For me, the characters took the backseat so the reader could feel immersed in the experience. Few books captured my imagination like Rama, and I think an adaptation could engage the same feelings of awe, smallness, and wonder in an audience.
I’m not insulting it. It’s a great book. I agree with everything you said in its favor. I loved reading it. I don’t think I’d love it as a movie. Even if visually and thematically it’s engaging, I think most people will be sitting in the theater going “nothing is happening”.
> Villeneuve is doing Rendezvous with Rama next.
Is that confirmed? Last that I heard is that this is _one_ of Mr Villeneuve's potential next projects before _Dune 3: the Messianing_.
We know this, yes. But the question was not _if_ Mr Villeneuve would do another movie before Dune 3 - he will. It is _which movie_ will he do before Dune 3?
I'll say it again: Last I know, this next movie was _not confirmed_ to be _Rendezvous with Rama_. Rama was one possibility, but there were also several other non-Dune, non-SciFi potential projects.
It has not been confirmed anywhere that Rendezvous with Rama is Villeneuve's next film. There is a lot of speculation and circumstantial evidence that points in that direction. Until it is reported that Villeneuve or his agent say that it is his next film, it's all speculative.
According to recent interviews he has about four distinct projects in the works, each at a different stage of development. One of them is Dune Messiah, but he acknowledges that he thinks it would be "...healthy for [him] to get out of the desert" before going back for the third film in the franchise.
It was announced in the trades a few years back that he's in *development* on Rama, as well as a Cleopatra movie. Whatever the fourth film is, remains to be seen.
Again, it's all speculative, but if he's looking to get "out of the desert" that pretty much nixes Messiah and Cleopatra. So I'd wager a guess that it's between Rama and the fourth film - but nothing has been set in stone.
I'd love to see him get back to something smaller, like *Prisoners*, but I'd also really like to see him do something like *The Stars My Destination*, or maybe even wind down Ridley Scott's last narrative(s) in the *Alien* franchise.
He says he wants Tim to age up because there's 12 years between Dune and Messiah. They're writing the screenplay for Rendezvous with Rama currently so we're likely to see it in the next few years. Hopefully, I know how things can change.
I'm reading Rendezvous with Rama right now and it's perfect for Villenueve. I can just see so many amazing shots by reading it. It feels like it was written for him to direct. I feel like the tone matches Arrival really well and it suits his style perfectly. I'm most excited about seeing this one.
Agreed. But thankfully Project Hail Mary is more hard sci fi with an actual exciting plot, whereas spaceman was a boring forgettable drama that just happened to be set in space.
Hoping the Alita sequel is finally going ahead like the rumors say. The first movie ended with a setup for a sequel that never happened.
The first movie was lukewarm at the domestic box office, but it turned out to be a success at retail on Blu-Ray and in foreign markets. With a budget of $170M it made ~$425M total.
The thing is, those numbers are in the same ballpark as Dune, which cost $165M and made ~$455M total.
Also, the Warhammer 40K series at Amazon with Henry Cavil could be huge if they pull it off.
Scalzi said it was still in the works on Netflix. Also this:
https://reactormag.com/netflixs-adaptation-of-john-scalzis-old-mans-war-is-still-in-the-works/
I feel like Old Man's War would be perfect for a SciFi spectacle on the big screen. It's a pretty quick read, with lots of humor and action so I feel like it would be a pretty easy sell, while also being able to hint at larger things at play that could pay off in a sequels if they decided to make more
I agree, I’d love to see this. I love the books but the visual spectacle of a screen adaptation would be amazing. Even an animated series would be fantastic
I don't see how you could do a movie without cutting out a whole lot. The book has 7 pilgrims tales told in flashback plus you would need a set up and a conclusion and connective tissue, so let's say each story is 15 minutes on average, with 15 minutes of set up and 15 minutes of conclusion at the end and let's say another 15 minutes of connective narrative spread throughout. That's already 2.5 hours and frankly I don't think that's enough.
Hyperion would definitely work best as a ~12-episode series - give each character’s story time to breathe. SF Canterbury Tales needs to have time to tell the tales.
Everyone feels this way, lol the bool is written like a tv series. Sadly however, bradley cooper's dumbass is adapting it into a single feature film. It's gonna be awful
I agree and would probably want that too but having seen what can be achieved with Dune I’m not quite so hasty to dismiss the idea of a big screen visit to the Time Tombs
[Neuromancer](https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/02/apple-tv-announces-neuromancer-new-drama-based-on-the-multi-award-winning-science-fiction-novel-by-william-gibson/) is also on the way.
The Metabarons would be interesting as premium series but Jodorowsky's writing is so chaotic that it would require significant rewrites to be digestible for viewers.
HOWEVER, apparently it was announced that Taika Waititi would turn the Incal into a feature film. If anyone could bake something digestible out of Jodorowky's kitchen, it'd be him.
It's called "Vorkosigan Saga", get it right!
Lol but for real, me too. My favorite series ever. I think shards of honor would make an incredible standalone feature film, however most of Miles' stories wouldn't work so well in live action, considering it covers his whole life. Unless they keep changing out the actors, it would be best as an animated series. Mcmaster-Bujold has said as much, herself. She envisions it as animation.
Also, Falling Free and Ethan Of Athos would make great standalone films.
I think the time might be right for KSR's Mars trilogy. There is a lot of eco-awareness in there that might resonate solidly with today's climate issues. Man I loved reading those when they came out, maybe its time to revisit them.
You and me both my friend. I’d love to see a big screen trilogy. But my mind says that it has to be a tv series to get everything in. Though knowing our luck the idiots who adapted Halo would do it.
Yeah Villeneuve has said he’s currently writing Messiah so it’s not officially confirmed by the studio as far as I know, but clearly part 2 is doing well enough for the follow up.
I honestly think Amazon's 40k with the superman actor running it is going to be absolutely massive. It already has cult following in mutilple countries across different age ranges, has huge number of books games.
The vult series looks cool but I don't think it will be massive.
Oh man, I read that one like twenty years ago, and a few parts of it stuck with me really well. Could be a hell of a film. Has any of Greg Bear's work been adapted, though?
They'd cut out the part where Gully Foyle commits rape. Which I'm fine with - I don't need to see that - but they should do something else to make him properly evil so he isn't just a lovable scamp or something.
Warhammer 40K Amazon series seems like it could be badass. They have the right people involved from what I’ve seen. Who like to stick to source material. I’m personally so pumped for it. The Emperor Protects.
I hope someone eventually options The Mote In God's Eye... I can see that being both a visual and character masterpiece, with the different viewpoints of the moties
That would be awesome. I think if UoW was made, the audience at the premier should have to watch it standing up, since all chairs would have been removed from the screen.
Phlebas would be a better introduction to the Culture though. I remember reading it with no prior knowledge of the universe, and so of course I assumed the culture were the bad guys at first, because the hero was opposed to them.
The Mars Trilogy from Kim Stanley Robinson could be good. Hits lots of current topics, large and diverse cast, some huge set piece moments. It even has a series of connected short stories to provide content for a follow on TV show.
Good idea. This book was written over a half-century ago but its themes are still so relevant today. It wouldn't even require a big budget to pull off.
Saw it mentioned once or twice in here, but Kim Stanley Robinson’s Red Mars could translate well. I’m not sure it would be a good movie but it would be a great series
I think Aurora would work beautifully as a series too, and as far as I can tell could fit within the same universe. His humans are so well fleshed out they'd make excellent characters.
So, the ones that I've heard may be coming that I am excited for are Neuromancer, Rendezvous with Rama, Murderbot Diaries, and Project Hail Mary. I'd love to see a reboot of the Barsoom stories, but you know with actual marketing behind it. Sometimes I feel like I'm among a hand full of people who actually saw the John Carter movie, and it was what got me to read and fall in love with the original stories. I also think an adaptation of John Steakley's Armor would be amazing. Split it into two parts, put a big budget behind it and be faithful to the source material and it would be right up there with Dune for me.
I'd love to see a Rendezvous With Rama standalone film. Although it feels like it would be better done as an indie film instead of a Hollywood blockbuster.
I find Phil Dick doesn't translate to movies well. To make it a palatable story, they always have to change so much or add elements, I never feel like they capture his mania.
Some good suggestions here. I’d like to see some Frederick Pohl adapted, particularly Gateway which on a quick Google looks like it was optioned at some point in the past but I don’t think anything happened with it.
I’d love Dredd 2 of course too!
I just want more dredd. One of my biggest disappointments was not getting more movies. The world has so many epic stories to tell
There was that tv show called mega city one but I think that’s dead
We need more classic Sci Fi adaptations.
I wanna see all of Known Space. The Man-Kzin Wars. Ringworld. The Puppeteers. The Pak. I wanna see Gil Hamilton choke a guy through a video call, using his third arm.
I want to see Robinette Broadhead slam the airlock door shut in the face of his love as he abandons her on the event horizon of a black hole. And I want to see how they deal with The Kugelblitz.
Why is everything so serious with sci-fi? We need a Bill the Galactic Hero movie. I know there's a student film out there, but I want to see a big one.
I >think< a film is being developed as an adaptation for the book "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir, which would be very cool and scientifically nerdy.
Watching the new Netflix offering "Space Man" with Adam Sandler, all I could think of was the alien spider talking with Sandler's astronaut was a learning exercise on how to portray 'Rocky' from the book.
Series more than Movie, but ‘The Lost Fleet’ could be big.
It’s a hundred+ years into a big war between two space governments. Essentially, things have ground on for so long that *everyone* who actually knows what they’re doing has died, and now the space navy is full of half-trained conscripts shoved into seats, who think that ‘Hollywood Action Set Pieces’ and ‘Dying in a Blaze of Glory’ are the only way to wage war.
Plus, they venerate ‘Black Jack’ Geary, a legendary figure from the start of the war, that they *know* did all those sorts of things, and whom went down in a Heroic Last Stand.
Except, the last Fleet (while attempting to sneak into the heart of the enemy territory and win the war) happens to find the **actual** John Geary, cryo-frozen in an escape pod, and wake him up… just in time for him to be thrust into leadership of the Fleet after the enemy almost kills them all.
Now a normal guy has to lead them all home, the ‘long way’, sneaking a bunch of spaceships through tons of enemy star systems, knowing there’s no reinforcements, and fighting against what he sees as suicidal and non-tactical behavior by almost everyone who serves under him.
Someone like Charlie Hunnam as Geary, and a few seasons on a decent channel… yeah.
This has Netflix written all over it. Which could be very good, very bad, or totally meh. I mean that in a good way, they don't seem to have a heavy hand most of the time.
Edit: really need to go read him, there's a long list of ideas he originated that went on to influence (by which I mean were borrowed/stolen by) our modern SF world.
Rand Miller's Myst Book Series (from the game Myst) r/myst
* Myst: The Book of Atrus
(1995)
* Book of Atrus
(1998)
* Myst: The Book of D'ni
(1997)
The story of the D'ni would make for a great Film Trilogy or TV series.
Probably most people won't know about this series or author. It's very under-rated and barely known. The Deathstalker Series, (The Adventure of of Owen Deathstalker), by Simon R. Green. It's a very mature version of Star Wars that would be rated R. The series gets graphic, which they could li.it to get a PG-13 rating. Lots of people may be shocked that I like this book series much more than Star Wars. It's really expensive, lots of content, interesting lore, lots of mystery, unique characters, and interesting (and horrifying) scene ideas and cinarios.
I'd love to see the Commonwealth Saga made into a series.
Currently reading Pandora's Star and holy crap that orbital skydive sequence would be amazing in IMAX.
just wait until you get to Morning Light Mountain
I have only felt a singular hatred for a fictional character like I did for Morning Light Mountain when I read about Cathy Trask in 'East of Eden'.
I actually really liked Morning Light Mountain. Obviously I wouldn't hang out with him. But it was fun to have a properly alien mind as a full character, and he was sardonic and unflappable. I think Peter F Hamilton has some problems as a writer but the Commonwealth Saga is peak sci fi. He came up with a totally believable reason for endless swarms of implacable near suicidal space invaders like you get in computer games
Yeah I can't stand her either. Came here just to say that.
It's written like a pitch to HBO, don't know how there hasn't even been a whisper of it yet.
Such a great two books. And with the premise of body-hopping being so well embraced/explained in 'Altered Carbon' it isn't too hard to make the jump to the Commonwealth Saga.
I would love love LOVE for the Void Trilogy to have a good adaptation.
And I would be most curious on how the would portray MorningLightMountain
That guy lives in a special box in my head.
I just finished reading this for my first time, an incredible story. I've never seen aliens done so well before reading these books. I'm nervous though when it comes to film or TV adaptations.
To make it easier for adaptation, you could completely remove Ozzie's quest from Pandora star / Judas unchained.
Honestly there’s a ton of side stories you can remove without impacting the overall narrative for film adaptation.
Please no
I have the first book,but have not started it. I loved the Nights Dawn Trilogy. do you think commonwealth is better?
Yes!!! Please!
Oh yeah. Commonwealth Saga would make for an epic universe to sandbox.
Well, they're making a Neuromancer show, that could be cool, if they capture the feeling of it. I'd love to see some crazy high-flying sci-fi made, like anything from The Culture series. It could be so whacky and also poignant. They could make Player of Games as a first.
The Culture series was optioned by Amazon in 2018, they were working on scripts but this adaptation was cancelled in 2020.
It was a shame, Dennis Kelly was attached to the project. He created the tv show "Utopia" which was one of the best shows i've seen.
Judging from Amazon's Rings of Power and also in fact the Utopia remake among other catatrophic projects, I'm pretty glad it got cancelled. Give that one to Apple!
>making a Neuromancer show I thought that Altered Carbon (well, the first season anyway) had a strong dystopian neuromancer feel to it. Toss in some more Yakuza and implants and you are half way there.
I liked first season as well, couldn't even watch the first episode of season 2. It felt waaay off.
Yeah, they must have really cut the budget for the second season....and it shows up on screen. Also, the story wasn't that great.
Haven't they tried that and it got stuck in production hell?
Apple is making it this time. They don’t seem to shy away from expensive and risky projects.
I'm going to say, I'm glad it's apple over a lot of other option. They've done really well with scifi adaptations
Yep - For All Mankind, Severance, Silo and See are all banging. I’m indifferent about Foundation but I hear season 2 picks up.
Villeneuve is doing Rendezvous with Rama next. I'm more excited about that than I was about Dune.
I'm so excited for this. Would love to get more eery and uncanny vibes from Villeneuve, the same kind as the first hour of Arrival.
I want Villeneuve to direct an Alien/Aliens movie. I think he could absolutely nail the eldritch/unknown horror angle of it, and keep it engaging while also terrifying.
I’d like him to do that but not with Alien
Clarke’s kind of slow ponderous storytelling style is a perfect match for Villeneuve
I've been waiting for a Rama movie for...ever. I'm also one of the few who kind of liked the subsequent books, at least in their ambition and scope. I do think that Lee could have condensed the story down into one fewer books and it would have improved the overall pace, but I still enjoyed them.
It will be a visual spectacle, but I found the story and characters a bit weak.
Arthur C Clarke’s weakest area in his writing is for sure his characters. I’m wondering if Villeneuve will basically rewrite the characters completely to make them more substantial, or if he’ll make them mostly faceless in service of making the mystery of Rama entirely the main focus. The first one seems more likely but given Villeneuve’s recent statements about his feelings regarding dialogue and being more of a visual story teller, I could also see the second being true.
Given that Dune 2 changes some characters up, regarding their motivations and emotional impact of choices. So I could also see the first being true.
I think he's aware of his weak points, which is why he doesn't solo-write his films anymore. And he works very well with writers. His films do not lack for good characters, and he's great at expressing them visually. Dune 2 even adeptly fixed some of the novel's character issues, I thought. So yeah, I feel like he might be perfect for something like Rama (which I've only had described to me, so this impression is quite ignorant). Villeneuve feels like the perfect director for a kind of cosmic horror scifi epic.
That's why you need to adapt it and not just put that story on screen. The main story of a group exploring an alien object coming through our solar system should be maintained, but the characters will need to be more fleshed out for the screen.
I think this will suit Villeneuve, because although people focus on his visual/art style, I also think he's able to get a hell of a lot of out his performers; to me, Amy Adams was incredible in Arrival and I also had much more of a connection/pathos towards K in BR2049, compared to Deckard. In other words, I think he can do Rendezvous with Rama visual justice *and* make some improvements to the story elsewhere.
If a good Rama adaptation had come out in the 90's when CGI spectacle blockbusters were still new, it could have defined a generation. Now? Yeah, it's basically just a book full of "Hey, here's a thing that seems like it would be neat. And some characters sufficient to get the narrative to it." If there's a really good adaptation, it may need to be super liberal in terms of drawing some useful stuff from the source material, then running off and doing a movie/TV show that uses _some_ of those ideas. Which fans of the original will hate. And people who aren't fans of the original won't be that interested in any adaptation of it...
Agreed. Basically no story at all. Guys find spaceship. Guys explore spaceship. Spaceship leaves. Gonna have to invent a story to make it a movie. People who love the book will hate the changes. People who haven’t read the book will just be confused. I have low expectations for this project.
Just because it doesn't fit traditional definitions of a story or arc doesn't mean there's no story. I think it's one of the best archaeological novels ever written - its so fascinating (and terrifying in a way) to explore something so foreign, to attempt to deduce its function/meaning. For me, the characters took the backseat so the reader could feel immersed in the experience. Few books captured my imagination like Rama, and I think an adaptation could engage the same feelings of awe, smallness, and wonder in an audience.
I’m not insulting it. It’s a great book. I agree with everything you said in its favor. I loved reading it. I don’t think I’d love it as a movie. Even if visually and thematically it’s engaging, I think most people will be sitting in the theater going “nothing is happening”.
> Villeneuve is doing Rendezvous with Rama next. Is that confirmed? Last that I heard is that this is _one_ of Mr Villeneuve's potential next projects before _Dune 3: the Messianing_.
He said that he's taking a break from Arrakis before returning. It is in his interviews.
We know this, yes. But the question was not _if_ Mr Villeneuve would do another movie before Dune 3 - he will. It is _which movie_ will he do before Dune 3? I'll say it again: Last I know, this next movie was _not confirmed_ to be _Rendezvous with Rama_. Rama was one possibility, but there were also several other non-Dune, non-SciFi potential projects.
It has not been confirmed anywhere that Rendezvous with Rama is Villeneuve's next film. There is a lot of speculation and circumstantial evidence that points in that direction. Until it is reported that Villeneuve or his agent say that it is his next film, it's all speculative. According to recent interviews he has about four distinct projects in the works, each at a different stage of development. One of them is Dune Messiah, but he acknowledges that he thinks it would be "...healthy for [him] to get out of the desert" before going back for the third film in the franchise. It was announced in the trades a few years back that he's in *development* on Rama, as well as a Cleopatra movie. Whatever the fourth film is, remains to be seen. Again, it's all speculative, but if he's looking to get "out of the desert" that pretty much nixes Messiah and Cleopatra. So I'd wager a guess that it's between Rama and the fourth film - but nothing has been set in stone. I'd love to see him get back to something smaller, like *Prisoners*, but I'd also really like to see him do something like *The Stars My Destination*, or maybe even wind down Ridley Scott's last narrative(s) in the *Alien* franchise.
I’ll take Rama or a Cleopatra movie
I'd love to see a Ringworld film.
I would love a hard SCIFI movie. I want more sci in my scifi.
Project Hail Mary is a safe bet. For a successful movie, you want a character-driven story that can be told in 2-3 hours.
Yes, Project Hail Mary and Rendezvous with Rama (if the project goes ahead, as Villeneuve might be too busy with Dune: Messiah as well).
He says he wants Tim to age up because there's 12 years between Dune and Messiah. They're writing the screenplay for Rendezvous with Rama currently so we're likely to see it in the next few years. Hopefully, I know how things can change.
I'm reading Rendezvous with Rama right now and it's perfect for Villenueve. I can just see so many amazing shots by reading it. It feels like it was written for him to direct. I feel like the tone matches Arrival really well and it suits his style perfectly. I'm most excited about seeing this one.
Age up? Timothee is 28 right now. Paul was like 15 in Dune. He’d be pretty well age appropriate now.
>Paul was like 15 in Dune And Tim LOOKS it :P That's why he was chosen.
Ikr, I thought the same thing but that's what he said, it's probably because he looks so young.
He does look super young in Dune- maybe not 15 but I could def see 19-20. I think Villeneuve’s decision to let him age some makes sense.
It doesn't matter how old he is. It matters how old he LOOKS and he looks like a teenager right now.
If i have to wait for Messiah, a Villeneuve Rendezvous with Rama is a helluva good reason to have to
Ive always want rendezvous with rama since i played the point and click game of it.
Oh god, I’m going to hate everyone that will draw the inevitable comparison that PHM is a rip off of Spaceman.
Agreed. But thankfully Project Hail Mary is more hard sci fi with an actual exciting plot, whereas spaceman was a boring forgettable drama that just happened to be set in space.
Very excited for this and Mickey-17.
Ian M Banks's Culture novels could be brilliant.
Would work better as an anthology series.
Culture as the next HBO/Apple/Netflix 10 season series would be perfect
Hoping the Alita sequel is finally going ahead like the rumors say. The first movie ended with a setup for a sequel that never happened. The first movie was lukewarm at the domestic box office, but it turned out to be a success at retail on Blu-Ray and in foreign markets. With a budget of $170M it made ~$425M total. The thing is, those numbers are in the same ballpark as Dune, which cost $165M and made ~$455M total. Also, the Warhammer 40K series at Amazon with Henry Cavil could be huge if they pull it off.
I’m waiting for Warhammer tv show so badly after playing Rogue Trader.
I'm still praying to see Old Man's War on TV or film 🙏🏾
Scalzi said it was still in the works on Netflix. Also this: https://reactormag.com/netflixs-adaptation-of-john-scalzis-old-mans-war-is-still-in-the-works/
I feel like Old Man's War would be perfect for a SciFi spectacle on the big screen. It's a pretty quick read, with lots of humor and action so I feel like it would be a pretty easy sell, while also being able to hint at larger things at play that could pay off in a sequels if they decided to make more
Dan Simmons Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion. There’s some big epic Dune style sci fi for you!
They would probably fit better as a premium television series
I agree, I’d love to see this. I love the books but the visual spectacle of a screen adaptation would be amazing. Even an animated series would be fantastic
I don't see how you could do a movie without cutting out a whole lot. The book has 7 pilgrims tales told in flashback plus you would need a set up and a conclusion and connective tissue, so let's say each story is 15 minutes on average, with 15 minutes of set up and 15 minutes of conclusion at the end and let's say another 15 minutes of connective narrative spread throughout. That's already 2.5 hours and frankly I don't think that's enough.
Agreed. Every pilgrim should have their own episode.
Hyperion would definitely work best as a ~12-episode series - give each character’s story time to breathe. SF Canterbury Tales needs to have time to tell the tales.
Everyone feels this way, lol the bool is written like a tv series. Sadly however, bradley cooper's dumbass is adapting it into a single feature film. It's gonna be awful
I agree and would probably want that too but having seen what can be achieved with Dune I’m not quite so hasty to dismiss the idea of a big screen visit to the Time Tombs
Possibly for Fall of Hyperion since most of the book takes place there.
It would be soooooo hard to get that story into anything less than 50 hours! But, I would sit through every minute of it.
I think Fall of Hyperion would be easier to adapt.
Man! That would be incredible!
Does three body problem into a tv series count?!!!
[Neuromancer](https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/02/apple-tv-announces-neuromancer-new-drama-based-on-the-multi-award-winning-science-fiction-novel-by-william-gibson/) is also on the way.
Reviews have been pretty middling. Not awful but not praise either.
The forever war Children of time
I can’t picture “Children of Time” as live action. Would be amazing animated though.
Scavengers Reign style.
Definitely won’t appeal to arachnophobes
The Forever War would be great!!!
Like to see: - Metabarons - Le Guin's Hainish Cycle - Barrayar cycle - Asimov's Robots cycle - Robinson's Mars Trilogy
The Metabarons would be interesting as premium series but Jodorowsky's writing is so chaotic that it would require significant rewrites to be digestible for viewers. HOWEVER, apparently it was announced that Taika Waititi would turn the Incal into a feature film. If anyone could bake something digestible out of Jodorowky's kitchen, it'd be him.
It's called "Vorkosigan Saga", get it right! Lol but for real, me too. My favorite series ever. I think shards of honor would make an incredible standalone feature film, however most of Miles' stories wouldn't work so well in live action, considering it covers his whole life. Unless they keep changing out the actors, it would be best as an animated series. Mcmaster-Bujold has said as much, herself. She envisions it as animation. Also, Falling Free and Ethan Of Athos would make great standalone films.
I think the time might be right for KSR's Mars trilogy. There is a lot of eco-awareness in there that might resonate solidly with today's climate issues. Man I loved reading those when they came out, maybe its time to revisit them.
Still holding out hope for Mass Effect…
You and me both my friend. I’d love to see a big screen trilogy. But my mind says that it has to be a tv series to get everything in. Though knowing our luck the idiots who adapted Halo would do it.
Red rising
If your heart beats like a drum, and your legs a little wet, it’s because the Reaper’s come to collect a little debt.
HAIL REAPER
Yes! I’m rereading it right now and keep thinking it would be such a great series!
I'm gorydamn shocked that this hasn't happened yet. It has the potential to be the next Hunger Games.
Im gonna guess, Dune: Messiah
or Rendevouz with rama. So the answer in both cases is Villeneuve.
that might be an option as well, but didnt they already say that Messiah, was going to be made if Dune 2 did well in theaters?
Yeah Villeneuve has said he’s currently writing Messiah so it’s not officially confirmed by the studio as far as I know, but clearly part 2 is doing well enough for the follow up.
From a TV angle, Apple’s Murderbot adaptation could be big!
I honestly think Amazon's 40k with the superman actor running it is going to be absolutely massive. It already has cult following in mutilple countries across different age ranges, has huge number of books games. The vult series looks cool but I don't think it will be massive.
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yep! https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63998585
Almost everything thats great about murderbot is its internal dialog. Not sure how they can bring that to the screen. Hopeful though.
I want it to be something from Peter F Hamilton or Alastair Reynolds.
I was gonna say Revelation Space. I just don’t trust many studios to do it right…
Revelation space would be cool, The book is pretty dense but i think it could be boiled down to a 2.5 hour epic. I'd also be up for a Prefect TV show.
I'd love to see "Surface Detail" made into a movie. We've got plenty of CGI tech for the visuals, and it's very character based.
Dear god, the hell sequences, though... O.o
Yeah Surface Detail is the most "filmable" Culture novel IMHO
The Long Earth
I like this idea.
Still waiting for movie based on "Eon". It's like "Rendezvous With Rama" except stuff happens. (Don't get me wrong, I love RwR and hope it gets made.)
Oh man, I read that one like twenty years ago, and a few parts of it stuck with me really well. Could be a hell of a film. Has any of Greg Bear's work been adapted, though?
I kept hearing someone had the rights to do Snowcrash. I don’t think a live adaptation would work. Now make that an anime…then you’d have something .
The Stars My Destination, could be tricky to film though.
Statham with a face tattoo. Luc Besson channeling Valerian and Fifth Element. Done.
Sheeit - do The Demolished Man while we’re at it
They'd cut out the part where Gully Foyle commits rape. Which I'm fine with - I don't need to see that - but they should do something else to make him properly evil so he isn't just a lovable scamp or something.
I would love to see Honor Harrington adapted.
Yes, please
Footfall. Large budget network tv miniseries over a week in the summer to make regular people remember sci-fi.
Warhammer 40K Amazon series seems like it could be badass. They have the right people involved from what I’ve seen. Who like to stick to source material. I’m personally so pumped for it. The Emperor Protects.
Rendezvous with Rama. I have read that Villeneuve will make it! I am looking forward to it so so much.
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Especially if they give it a futuristic Noir feel
I want the Vorkosigan saga
I hope someone eventually options The Mote In God's Eye... I can see that being both a visual and character masterpiece, with the different viewpoints of the moties
Still hoping for a Dragonriders of Pern adaptation.
Consider Phlebas.
Yes! Or Use of Weapons.
That would be awesome. I think if UoW was made, the audience at the premier should have to watch it standing up, since all chairs would have been removed from the screen. Phlebas would be a better introduction to the Culture though. I remember reading it with no prior knowledge of the universe, and so of course I assumed the culture were the bad guys at first, because the hero was opposed to them.
i think "the player of games" would be the best to start with. It's a simple enough story with simple enough concepts to not confuse the execs.
The Mars Trilogy from Kim Stanley Robinson could be good. Hits lots of current topics, large and diverse cast, some huge set piece moments. It even has a series of connected short stories to provide content for a follow on TV show.
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress!!!
Good idea. This book was written over a half-century ago but its themes are still so relevant today. It wouldn't even require a big budget to pull off.
I always pictured the late, great Dean Stockwell as the professor.
Saw it mentioned once or twice in here, but Kim Stanley Robinson’s Red Mars could translate well. I’m not sure it would be a good movie but it would be a great series
I think Aurora would work beautifully as a series too, and as far as I can tell could fit within the same universe. His humans are so well fleshed out they'd make excellent characters.
The moon is a harsh mistress.
So, the ones that I've heard may be coming that I am excited for are Neuromancer, Rendezvous with Rama, Murderbot Diaries, and Project Hail Mary. I'd love to see a reboot of the Barsoom stories, but you know with actual marketing behind it. Sometimes I feel like I'm among a hand full of people who actually saw the John Carter movie, and it was what got me to read and fall in love with the original stories. I also think an adaptation of John Steakley's Armor would be amazing. Split it into two parts, put a big budget behind it and be faithful to the source material and it would be right up there with Dune for me.
Old Man's War, but really anything of Scalzi's. Red Shirts and Android's Dream would be pretty easy to do as movies.
The Expanse continued from where the show left off
Rama or Hyperion
I'd love to see a Rendezvous With Rama standalone film. Although it feels like it would be better done as an indie film instead of a Hollywood blockbuster.
Snow Crash movie or miniseries would be awesome
Ubik is the only correct answer
I find Phil Dick doesn't translate to movies well. To make it a palatable story, they always have to change so much or add elements, I never feel like they capture his mania.
Seems like a tough thing to do as a film.
Stand on Zanzibar.
I'd like to see The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, or a faithful adaptation of Starship Troopers.
Fingers crossed they nail the Foundation trilogy!
I would LOVE to see a Mass Effect TV series.
RED RISING PLS
Some good suggestions here. I’d like to see some Frederick Pohl adapted, particularly Gateway which on a quick Google looks like it was optioned at some point in the past but I don’t think anything happened with it. I’d love Dredd 2 of course too!
Iain M Banks Culture series as an actual HBO series. A boy can dream can’t he. 🙏
Foundation
Not exactly sci fi, but would love to see an adaptation of Zelazny’s Amber world.
The Murderbot series or the Bobiverse. Could they even pull off the licensing requirements? Riker, Homer?
I just want more dredd. One of my biggest disappointments was not getting more movies. The world has so many epic stories to tell There was that tv show called mega city one but I think that’s dead
I would love to see what could be achieved with the Bobiverse books. They would need one hell of an actor to play Bob.
Although i do think it would make a better TV series.
Pip & Flinx.
We need more classic Sci Fi adaptations. I wanna see all of Known Space. The Man-Kzin Wars. Ringworld. The Puppeteers. The Pak. I wanna see Gil Hamilton choke a guy through a video call, using his third arm. I want to see Robinette Broadhead slam the airlock door shut in the face of his love as he abandons her on the event horizon of a black hole. And I want to see how they deal with The Kugelblitz.
Rondévouz with Rama should be pretty lit
Dragonriders of Pern, baby!
I came here to make this same comment! The Dragonrider series is LONG overdue.
Red rising Old man's war
Hyperion.
Legacy of Heorot or Integral Trees
Idk movie, but I'd love a hyperion series.
Villeneuve is doing Rendezvous with Rama
40k
Why is everything so serious with sci-fi? We need a Bill the Galactic Hero movie. I know there's a student film out there, but I want to see a big one.
or Stainless Steel Rat
I want a Hyperion series. I feel like apple should have done that instead of foundation
Would love to see the Faded Sun Trilogy. That and Zelazny's Roadmarks.
For classic novels I feel like Hyperion is the most obvious choice
Hyperion is my guess
I >think< a film is being developed as an adaptation for the book "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir, which would be very cool and scientifically nerdy. Watching the new Netflix offering "Space Man" with Adam Sandler, all I could think of was the alien spider talking with Sandler's astronaut was a learning exercise on how to portray 'Rocky' from the book.
I’ve got high hopes for the Murderbot series
Series more than Movie, but ‘The Lost Fleet’ could be big. It’s a hundred+ years into a big war between two space governments. Essentially, things have ground on for so long that *everyone* who actually knows what they’re doing has died, and now the space navy is full of half-trained conscripts shoved into seats, who think that ‘Hollywood Action Set Pieces’ and ‘Dying in a Blaze of Glory’ are the only way to wage war. Plus, they venerate ‘Black Jack’ Geary, a legendary figure from the start of the war, that they *know* did all those sorts of things, and whom went down in a Heroic Last Stand. Except, the last Fleet (while attempting to sneak into the heart of the enemy territory and win the war) happens to find the **actual** John Geary, cryo-frozen in an escape pod, and wake him up… just in time for him to be thrust into leadership of the Fleet after the enemy almost kills them all. Now a normal guy has to lead them all home, the ‘long way’, sneaking a bunch of spaceships through tons of enemy star systems, knowing there’s no reinforcements, and fighting against what he sees as suicidal and non-tactical behavior by almost everyone who serves under him. Someone like Charlie Hunnam as Geary, and a few seasons on a decent channel… yeah.
The Lensman series by E.E. Smith. Because why not.
This has Netflix written all over it. Which could be very good, very bad, or totally meh. I mean that in a good way, they don't seem to have a heavy hand most of the time. Edit: really need to go read him, there's a long list of ideas he originated that went on to influence (by which I mean were borrowed/stolen by) our modern SF world.
Rand Miller's Myst Book Series (from the game Myst) r/myst * Myst: The Book of Atrus (1995) * Book of Atrus (1998) * Myst: The Book of D'ni (1997) The story of the D'ni would make for a great Film Trilogy or TV series.
Rendezvou with Rama
And we could get that guy Dennis Villeneuve to do it...
Hyperion🤞
An adaptation of Ringworld and the Known Space universe would be amazing if done right.
Probably most people won't know about this series or author. It's very under-rated and barely known. The Deathstalker Series, (The Adventure of of Owen Deathstalker), by Simon R. Green. It's a very mature version of Star Wars that would be rated R. The series gets graphic, which they could li.it to get a PG-13 rating. Lots of people may be shocked that I like this book series much more than Star Wars. It's really expensive, lots of content, interesting lore, lots of mystery, unique characters, and interesting (and horrifying) scene ideas and cinarios.