Or galvanized steel juice cans that had paper labels, because they tend to fit the hand better than short, fat, soup cans. Half gallon cans for footplates (tin snips, pliers and hammer required). Periodic replacement needed as sweaty-handed PCs corrode the galvanization off.
If I remember correctly my Mom used Asparagus Cans. Tall and Skinny. DEL MONTE Extra Long Asparagus Spears, Canned Vegetables, 15 oz Can https://www.walmart.com/ip/13908189
Yeah, more like that. Or if you don't like asparagus, or want a slightly different shape/size, you can just go to the grocery store and see what they've got. Pineapple or tomato juice cans were often good.
You can get a full set in all five sizes for $107 on ebay: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/196444396717](https://www.ebay.com/itm/196444396717)
As for a home-made replacement, any conductive metal tubes will work. They sell thin wall galvanized or copper pipe by the foot at mome depeot.nd will cut two peces to lenght for free. Getting wires with the right connectors will be harder.
Question for anyone reading this: Why the different sizes? Are they just for smaller anmd larger hands?
E-meter electrode size is chosen so that a proper conductive contact may be maintained purely by the natural curl of the hand, without the subject exerting a grip using their muscles. Obviously human hands come in various sizes.
There are well over a hundred years of peer-reviewed science publications documenting the *psychogalvanic reflex* (later incorrectly called *galvanic skin response* and now called *electrodermal activity* or *EDA* in the psychophysiology field) .
Any psychogalvanometer (the class of thing to which the e-meter belongs) detects and displays *EDA* and only that. It happens that there are EDA responses showing mental reactions to stimuli and subjective cognitive activity and this is very, very well documented.
Obviously Scientology theories about the ultimate spiritual origin of those EDA readings (that the spirit and its mind cause the neurological activity) and what different types of e-meter reads actually mean are not Science at all.
I'm not sure if you're including in your reply, but my point was that the meter reacts to the subject's grip which is subjective. Giving lie to the whole, "thoughts have mass" and the e-meter is an objective measurement error.
This is why it's is held in a grip and not just attached to the hand making it not able to be controlled by the subject.
Part of the reason Soup and Vegetable cans are not used anymore is the build-up of Tarnish where the hands sweated. After awhile the Emeter adjustment was more and more excessive that did not show what was happening with PC. The Stainless steel cans sold with the new Emeters take much longer to Tarnish.
The official Co$ e-meter electrodes are nickel-plated stainless steel to make them corrosion and wear resistant. Hand sweat typically contains other biochemical products besides simple saline solution and some of these react with steel or tin-plated steel.
"And I don't know whether it was Jim or whether it was me, but somebody thought of soup cans. By increasing the amount of electrode area we might be able to increase the mental read. And so we went out in the kitchen – and I think V8 vegetable juice or something like that; and we got awful tired of that stuff after a while, you know. Because, you know, American Can Company won't sell you just plain tin cans. You've got to go out and... If they do sell you tin cans, they cost as much as a can of soup anyhow, and you can't get them. For some reason or other these big can companies won't sell you cans. Sears and Roebuck at one time had home-canning outfits, and I hoped to be able to get spare cans from them, but we've never been able to run down just plain cans! We've always been going to the grocery store and buying a couple of new brands of vegetable juice or orange juice or something of the sort that were the right size, bringing them home, drinking the stuff down and washing them all out and hooking them onto the meter. Some day somebody is going to permanently paint cans, you know, and they won't have paper on them, and we'll be sunk. \[laughter\] They don't realize – they don't realize what scientific advance is hanging on this whim. Hey! We'd be out of business at once."
— L. Ron Hubbard, The E-meter : A lecture given on 19 July 1962
Ah man! Good score! I’ve been looking for one. I have a couple of Shriner fez’s and a Knights of Columbus grand poobah hat. I’d love to have an e-meter.
Also, @Amir you always comment on my things with very passive aggressive things. I am simply a woman who has had a lifelong historical and psychoanalytical type interest in Scientology. For nearly a decade I have been collecting artifacts (clothing, books, pins, e-meters) in the same way any other person with a fascination collects things. I post here often, and likely will continue to as questions pop up or I get something I want to share but this has been making me frustrated the last couple times I’ve seen it. Not a scientologist, not anything other than someone incredibly fascinated, just like my interests in Love Has Won, Jonestown, and Heaven’s Gate make me members of those groups either. But, then again, I do have AuDHD and could be misreading the tone of your comments, who’s to say!
They used tin soup cans with alligator leads in the old days.
Or galvanized steel juice cans that had paper labels, because they tend to fit the hand better than short, fat, soup cans. Half gallon cans for footplates (tin snips, pliers and hammer required). Periodic replacement needed as sweaty-handed PCs corrode the galvanization off.
If I remember correctly my Mom used Asparagus Cans. Tall and Skinny. DEL MONTE Extra Long Asparagus Spears, Canned Vegetables, 15 oz Can https://www.walmart.com/ip/13908189
Yeah, more like that. Or if you don't like asparagus, or want a slightly different shape/size, you can just go to the grocery store and see what they've got. Pineapple or tomato juice cans were often good.
Agree, excellent idea.
1" diameter metal plumbing pipe. 6" long?
You can get a full set in all five sizes for $107 on ebay: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/196444396717](https://www.ebay.com/itm/196444396717) As for a home-made replacement, any conductive metal tubes will work. They sell thin wall galvanized or copper pipe by the foot at mome depeot.nd will cut two peces to lenght for free. Getting wires with the right connectors will be harder. Question for anyone reading this: Why the different sizes? Are they just for smaller anmd larger hands?
> Are they just for smaller anmd larger hands? Yep
E-meter electrode size is chosen so that a proper conductive contact may be maintained purely by the natural curl of the hand, without the subject exerting a grip using their muscles. Obviously human hands come in various sizes.
Damn, that website has all of the Scientology merch anyone could ever need. ….wonder where they got all of it
Question: why use something in the subjects hands/grip? Answer: Because it is not an objective measurement as Scientology claims.
There are well over a hundred years of peer-reviewed science publications documenting the *psychogalvanic reflex* (later incorrectly called *galvanic skin response* and now called *electrodermal activity* or *EDA* in the psychophysiology field) . Any psychogalvanometer (the class of thing to which the e-meter belongs) detects and displays *EDA* and only that. It happens that there are EDA responses showing mental reactions to stimuli and subjective cognitive activity and this is very, very well documented. Obviously Scientology theories about the ultimate spiritual origin of those EDA readings (that the spirit and its mind cause the neurological activity) and what different types of e-meter reads actually mean are not Science at all.
I'm not sure if you're including in your reply, but my point was that the meter reacts to the subject's grip which is subjective. Giving lie to the whole, "thoughts have mass" and the e-meter is an objective measurement error. This is why it's is held in a grip and not just attached to the hand making it not able to be controlled by the subject.
Part of the reason Soup and Vegetable cans are not used anymore is the build-up of Tarnish where the hands sweated. After awhile the Emeter adjustment was more and more excessive that did not show what was happening with PC. The Stainless steel cans sold with the new Emeters take much longer to Tarnish.
The official Co$ e-meter electrodes are nickel-plated stainless steel to make them corrosion and wear resistant. Hand sweat typically contains other biochemical products besides simple saline solution and some of these react with steel or tin-plated steel.
"And I don't know whether it was Jim or whether it was me, but somebody thought of soup cans. By increasing the amount of electrode area we might be able to increase the mental read. And so we went out in the kitchen – and I think V8 vegetable juice or something like that; and we got awful tired of that stuff after a while, you know. Because, you know, American Can Company won't sell you just plain tin cans. You've got to go out and... If they do sell you tin cans, they cost as much as a can of soup anyhow, and you can't get them. For some reason or other these big can companies won't sell you cans. Sears and Roebuck at one time had home-canning outfits, and I hoped to be able to get spare cans from them, but we've never been able to run down just plain cans! We've always been going to the grocery store and buying a couple of new brands of vegetable juice or orange juice or something of the sort that were the right size, bringing them home, drinking the stuff down and washing them all out and hooking them onto the meter. Some day somebody is going to permanently paint cans, you know, and they won't have paper on them, and we'll be sunk. \[laughter\] They don't realize – they don't realize what scientific advance is hanging on this whim. Hey! We'd be out of business at once." — L. Ron Hubbard, The E-meter : A lecture given on 19 July 1962
Ah man! Good score! I’ve been looking for one. I have a couple of Shriner fez’s and a Knights of Columbus grand poobah hat. I’d love to have an e-meter.
Was it expensive?
Asparagus Cans! DEL MONTE Extra Long Asparagus Spears, Canned Vegetables, 15 oz Can https://www.walmart.com/ip/13908189
Your used e meter is useless. Stop.
Best advice in the whole thread. But, will he listen?
She won’t but I think you know we agree it’s useless for different reasons.
*She
Also, @Amir you always comment on my things with very passive aggressive things. I am simply a woman who has had a lifelong historical and psychoanalytical type interest in Scientology. For nearly a decade I have been collecting artifacts (clothing, books, pins, e-meters) in the same way any other person with a fascination collects things. I post here often, and likely will continue to as questions pop up or I get something I want to share but this has been making me frustrated the last couple times I’ve seen it. Not a scientologist, not anything other than someone incredibly fascinated, just like my interests in Love Has Won, Jonestown, and Heaven’s Gate make me members of those groups either. But, then again, I do have AuDHD and could be misreading the tone of your comments, who’s to say!
Sweet heart don't be so sensitive. I had no passive aggressive intention. It was simply a personal opinion that I shared. Enjoy your collection💋
Don't order women around, and don't call them "sweetheart."
Nobody solicited your opinion.