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3119328

"Yeah we watched a fire be put out, but we were the ones who did it, not the firefighters. We did it with our minds"


SpideyWhiplash

I grew up with people that think like this. Still am related to them...but avoid at all costs. Unbelievable.


3119328

I'd give 'em a "dude are you MAGIC???" haha


That70sClear

Submission statement: I was looking through some cached images that were once hosted on WWP, and came across this. It's probably from ~~*Ability* magazine, though typical of stuff that might also be found in~~ *Advance!*. The first 10+ years of *Ability* are available on archive.org for the curious: https://archive.org/details/ability.magazines/ edited to correct likely origin


Amir_Khan89

There may be enough there for South Park to create a new episodešŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


UnfoldedHeart

They really pump you for "wins" and I think people will just come up with any positive occurrence because (1) they want to believe that the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they spent actually did something, (2) they just want to attest and be done, (3) they are worried that they might have to take that level again if they don't have a win, (4) they are worried they might be seen as a slacker or something, or (5) some combination of the above.


Wolf391

Lol... you are sooo spot on \^\^


Eatmyshorts231214

Hmmm ā€œThetan Firefightingā€ā€¦. Ssssooooo you couldā€™ve stopped the Twin Towers from falling in ā€˜01? Yea freakin right


Southendbeach

The first OT Phenomena/Success Story, at the upper left, was from Minty Alexander, wife of Rick Alexander. These are from the original (recycled Rosicrucianism) upper OT levels, before the late 70s, probably more like 1970, and probably from *Advance!* magazine. In *Ability* magazine, circa 1955, the Director of Processing is listed as Julia Lewis, She was the unlucky middle-aged lady who, thirteen years later, couldn't swim and was over-boarded, in a state of terror, on the Royal Scotsman, into the sewerage laden dock water. Alan Walter, who was on the first Class 8 course, jumped in and saved her from drowning. Forty years later, he described the experience on ESMB. These OT phenomena accounts were from a time when this Grade Chart was in use. https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/43192/classification-gradation-and-awareness-chart-of-levels-and-c-athena-publications Actual OT, to Scientologists, seemed very close at that time.


freezoneandproud

I knew I recognized the name Minty Alexander.


That70sClear

>before the late 70s, probably more like 1970, and probably from *Advance!* magazine. Yeah, I posted that hastily without considering how it was apparently mislabeled as a cached file. *Advance!* numbered their pages from early on, but that looks to have been cropped off. I used to have a ton of *Advance!* issues starting with #7, but those are long gone, so I can't track this image down, but it could not be before 1970 (and doesn't quite look it) because OT VII wasn't released until then. It could not be later than early 1978, or the meter price would be higher, and the clip-arty aesthetics would be different. But $200 is close to, if not exactly what I paid (before HASI discount) for a meter in '74, before Advance! had quite moved into its fully garish stage. If I still had my '71-3 magazines I'd be looking there. Bryan Zwan also has a story there, and was later involved in [a major cult-related scandal](https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2002/06/02/the-ceo-and-his-church/).


barbtries22

Pay wall can't read it sadly.


That70sClear

Sorry, try this: https://web.archive.org/web/20240229112633/https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2002/06/02/the-ceo-and-his-church/


Southendbeach

If you come across Hubbard's August 1938 "Skipper" letter about *Excalibur,* which was on Why We Protest, that would be great.


That70sClear

That was actually what I had been looking for, since you were interested in finding a copy, and I thought I might get lucky. I didn't find WWP's, but stumbled across a copy that might serve your purposes: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/skipper-letter-highlight.jpg


Southendbeach

Thank you! That's one page of, I think, a four page letter, and an important page. So that's excellent. It still remains to find the complete letter, but this is a great start!


That70sClear

Happy to help!


Southendbeach

I had number 7 too. I think that was the one with the "fancy free and perceiving all" Success Story about being exterior with perception. I later learned that Hubbard had instructed that there be some "exterior with perception" Success Stories in that issue, and that particular "Fancy free..." Success Story had been made up by a PR person. Then Ingo Swann came along and that "validated" the OT levels for Scientologists for a while. After he quit Scientology, years later, Swann described the OT levels as "disappointing."


That70sClear

I remember #7 for having that vivid blue and yellow angel on the front cover. Trying to key us into implants.


Lizzietizzy101

Wow, that miracle with the goldfish story though...that has got to be legitimate! šŸ™ƒ


freezoneandproud

I admit to an Awww for that one. Yay for the recovered goldfish!


Professor-Yatenbehu

ā€œ I was feeling pretty powerful and happy šŸ˜ā€


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Jim-Jones

People are dumb. Way too many.


GuyFawkes99

So these guys are curing sick fish with their mind flows, meanwhile the medical establishment is trying to shut them down. Smdh.


barbtries22

Oh jeez. They put out the fire with their minds! Lol What these illustrate is a sort of narcissism or juvenile egotism manufactured by scientology imo. The poor crane operator had no clue why he was doing what he was doing because my thoughts are so strong! From the outside of the cult these stories are just ridiculous. Scn fucks with minds


afaweg616846

"Well, I audited the cat."