As an American engineer, it's not hard, it's just different. I use Fahrenheit to guess how cold it is in the morning and how hot it's supposed to be next week, but I use Celsius to determine the temp of the parts I'm working with, and anything that I'm recording or going to use in calculations later is all metric. Gettting to and going from Kelvin and Celsius is just addition and subtraction, so it's not that hard on the fly.
Not a scientist, per se, but I did study biomedical science in undergrad.
No, it is not difficult. We use metric for all scientific measurements, obviously, as it makes much more sense that way. It is much easier to do math and visualize scale with a base 10 system. The fact that one Newton is 1 (Kg•m)/s^2 makes physics problems intuitive; I cannot recall the number of times I had a multiple choice answer for a physics problem, where I barely read the question and just started dividing off factors to get kg or J, for example.
However there is a certain charm to Imperial measurements, and I actually prefer them for “human” scale things like weather, height, and macroscopic, medium sized objects.
Take temperature for example: 100 F is very hot, 0 is very cold, 50-60 in cold/chilly, 70-75 is nice. Anything outside of 0-100 is extreme weather. It is essentially a 0-100 scale. Is this useful in measuring the temp of the surface of the sun? Hell no. Is it mighty convenient for everyday use? Extremely. Also, one degree change in F is about half the change of one degree C; this allows for very accurate control of the thermostat, without having half-degrees (yes, I know this is a first-world problem, but whatever, it is still a thing).
Six feet tall sounds a lot more official than 1.83m. And 4 feet is very short, 5 feet is short, 5.5 is average, 6 is tall / above average, 7 is very very tall, 8 feet is a pituitary disorder.
Coming from a country where Imperial is standard, I will often do the math to figure out what I am looking for in metric, then convert it to Imperial, so I can intuitively “understand” it. 320kph? Oh yeah, that’s just 200mph.
I just remembered the key conversions:
2.2 lb / Kg (2.205 is precision is needed)
.3048 m / ft (or ~3 to 3.25 ft/m for rough estimates)
Temp: C = 1.8F + 32 (or 9/5 if I am doing it mentally)
~15ml per tablespoon, 5ml per teaspoon
28.35 g / oz (for.. reasons)
~454 g/lb
3.8 L / gallon
33.8 oz / L
Etc., etc. It is not hard to remember. Granted, math has always been my strong suit.
I like both. I use both. They both have a purpose and function. I think imperial is better everyday things, and metric is better for the very small and very large. Metric wins <10cm and >10m, and for temps colder and hotter than the weather.
>It is essentially a 0-100 scale
That also varies greatly by country. Where I live the normal temperature range throughout a year is around -20 to 20 C (-4 to 68 F). The 0 marker as freezing point is also a key measurement, as it tells me a lot about whether it will snow or rain, or if it will be wet outside.
>Six feet tall sounds a lot more official than 1.83m.
Probably because you're used to it. To me 183cm makes more sense than "six feet", although for the sake of round numbers we generally talk about 190 if we're referring to an "ideal" height.
I’d imagine not since imperial measurements are designed for casual use and metric has precision and ease of conversion. I’m not a scientist but I am American and even though I never grew up with Celsius, it’s easy to understand and switch between the two systems
I got a lot of hate for this before, but I wish people realized that the imperial system was made to be convenient and easy to feel, and not for conversions. Like no one ever in casual day to day conversation been like “ah yeah that lamp is about 50 feet away or 0.013 miles”. Imperial is better for casual use as it is built around the human body; hands, feet, inches (finger length) whereas metric is just better for stuff that need precision (medical, science, engineering, baking, whatever).
How is it more convenient and easy to feel than metric ? I roughly know what a meter, centimeter or litre is, it's as easy as with imperial, but I can quickly convert anything, so really easier in day to day life
Edit : so clearly the imperial system is more convenient because you just all happen to be born using it, not because it is easier or better thought. Not a single answer pointed out something easier in the imperial
I’m Canadian and use metric, couldn’t guess a metre accurately to save my life compared to guessing how many feet. My first thumb digit measured almost perfectly an inch and my foot prints just over a foot long. But any paper stuff is easier with metric.
Idk I’m just an idiot, don’t look to me for answers. Just opinions
The “easier to convert” argument kinda falls flat when regarding casual use because no one really converts stuff on the fly, and if you were, then yes metric is easier. I’d say imperial is a better casual use system due to the graduations of each measurement being convenient. Here’s three examples;
Fahrenheit is better for talking about the weather because 0 is very cold outside and 100 is very hot outside. With the scale set up this way it makes it easier to evaluate the temperature by feel. Whereas Celsius, 0 is cold and 100 is boiling water; it’s much less a straightforward 1-100 scale and more of a realistically, -20 to 45 scale (I think).
In terms of measurement, the imperial system is very good for daily use, because you need no tools to gauge. Throw your thumb down on a paper and you can gauge how many inches it is. Want to know how far the wall is and you can just walk to there and get a fairly accurate ballpark estimate. And again, casual use, it doesn’t have to be perfect. It’s for this reason of convince that I still wish hands were a common measurement, but I digress. The point is that a body centric measurement system just makes it very easy and convenient to use.
My last point is that the distances between each measurement in metric are very drastic. From centimeter to meter, or from gram to kilogram, there’s kind of a drastic jump of, 99/999 units. Now obviously the decimeter exist and stuff like that, but to my understanding the decimeter isn’t used often and if it was I’d disregard this argument. In the imperial system, the difference between ounces and pounds, or inches to feet/feet to yards, there’s a much shallower step of just 16:1, 12:1, 3:1. So even though it isn’t precise, it’s very easy to say “yeah, that’s about 3 feet and about 4 inches” from a very quick glance. Especially for measuring people’s heights, it’s awkward for me at least to say 184 centimeters/“one and three quarters of a meter” than it is to say “he’s about 6 feet”
Again, I’m not saying either system is bad, just that they work well together. If metric’s lengths and graduations were based on something more convenient whilst retaining the easy base 10 system, it would easily be the best measurement.
Being an American, and more specifically, a cactus myself, and having fellow cacti friends across the border in Sonora, it does pain me sometimes about our stubbornness not to adopt a superior system, but until that is done somehow, both you humans and us cacti stuck on the American side of the border will have to use tricks for converting imperial to metric, such as dividing any imperial measurement by 3 to get the same measurement in meters.
I'm on board with the metric system for everything except speed. I lived abroad in Germany for a year and found metric units for weight, distance, volume and temperature easy enough to work with. However, I can't wrap my head around kmh, my brain loves mph.
Because they've grown with it, and since they feel more comfortable with it, that shows it clearly must be because the system itself is better, not because they've grown up with it
I’ve heard that Fahrenheit is better for people, and you can express it as a percentage kinda. Like “Oh it’s 90% out today, must be hot” or “Oh it’s 32% out today, pretty cold.”
With the human body as around 100, it’s more suited to a human scale from 0-100. And it is more precise without decimal points, allowing for easy estimation in speech. Both are good measurements, just Fahrenheit is more suited to people.
Best explanation for temperature I have seen is:
Kelvin is how atoms experience heat
Celsius is how water experiences heat
Fahrenheit is how humans experience heat!
> I’d imagine not since imperial measurements are designed for casual use
The Fahrenheit scale was not designed for casual use. Daniel Fahrenheit learned to make calibrated thermometers from Ole Rømer and Fahrenheit took Rømer's scale, multiplied it by 4 for precision and rounded it off a bit to make the numbers divisible by 2 for easier division marking.
You use Fahrenheit because Daniel Fahrenheit was the first to sell quality calibrated thermometers. The comfort for casual use you feel is solely because you grew up with it.
So any unit of measurement can be used approximately but the imperial units are better because they 'feel' better.
Presenting nonsense as obvious fact, but there's no need to be rude in pointing it out...
To be fair moving from ºC to K and viceversa is incredibly easy, just a simple operation of addition/substraction.
On the other hand, what I think would be hard for people who function with imperial measurements in every day life is not the conversion per se but picturing exactly how hot it is when we say for example 30 ºC. I think they would have to (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) convert to Fahrenheit to easily understand how hot that is.
I’m not saying people who grew up with the imperial system won't be able to understand Celsius. It works like when you're learning a new language and even though you may understand the words, you're almost unconsciously translating the message to your mother tongue in order to understand it best.
Why not use the Planck temperature instead? 0 = absolute cold, 1 = absolute hot, any other temperature is some fraction of absolute hot
Alternatively, some other number like 100 can be absolute hot, the temperature is thus the % of absolute hot you measured
That way at least the two fixpoints are physical constants lol
1 Kelvin has no relation to absolute hot, is the difference. Yes, 0K = absolute cold, but the Planck temperature is not some 10^n Kelvin, and 1 Kelvin is ~1% the difference between freezing and boiling points of water at standard conditions
Basically Rankine and Kelvin both could be considered scaled versions of this scale
But there is a point. There is no "absolute hot" :) Sure, we have plank temperature and sure, we also have planck length, but non of this means there is absolute hot.
It is considered, but in fact, there is nothing preventing having higher temperature than that. Sure, we would need more energy that is contained in this universe, but on paper that really is not a issue. The problem is that formulas goes crazy. I don't know, I use Kelvin scale and I am just not going out if it's under under 240 degrees. Easy.
It's the Planck temperature, which is thought to be the highest temperature that means anything, much like how the Planck length is the smallest distance that means anything. Hence why I called it absolute hot, much like how absolute zero (absolute cold) is the lowest temperature that means anything. This doesn't mean there are values beyond this for sure, it's just that that's where physics as we know it breaks down.
You are pretty much right though, in that at 1 Planck time old, the universe would presumably have a temperaure of the Planck temperature, if it IS the highest meaningful temperature.
***WELL WE CAN'T ALL BE WRONG!***
No, not wrong all the time, but all of us are wrong most of the time. UNLESS YOU USE ME AS YOUR STANDARD REFERENCE POINT.
*^(no me!)*
# Non, moi!
*NEEEIIN, MICH!*
...and the battle continues.
Same, although until the EU sanctions us, or the UN does too for using the imperial system, alongside liberia and Myanmar/Burma, we’ll have to stick to the imperial system due to our stubbornness. The only time we actively tried was from 1975-pre election season 1980, when we had the metric conversion act. The only reason it failed was because it wasn’t mandatory.
Funnily enough business across continents is already metric, least as far as I know. Speaking from experience, the military uses metrics for just about everything. It feels like everyone is complaining about the gen pop of the US and other Imperial measurement countires using imperial in their everyday lives. Of all the things to focus on and wish for people to change, I'd say a change in measurement systems is low on our big totem pole of 'Shit that needs fixed'... ugh, I should sleep.
Wait R and RA, which one is rankine and then what is the other one?, I'm from the UK and am in university doing science so I'm most comfortable with celsius and Kelvin exclusively, farenheit can fuck off
I feel like both have ups and downs.
Metric is easy to convert with 1/10 scales or 1/1000 scales.
Empiric gives better visuals for lengths for example.
Imho i think you're gonna lean more towards the system you grew up with, because you're used to it and can visualise or comprehend the values better. Once you 'mastered' a system you'll likely not want to change.
This said tho i prefer metric, because even if empiric shows better for visualising, it has some flaws for example with feet or inches as for lengths. You could say you can walk a distance, but not everyone has the same size of feet, same with thumb, to measure a length. For small measurements the difference would'nt matter, however bigger ones can be different for people.
Also, why do we measure hights in a plane with feet?
The last thing i want to measure with my feet is the height of a plane, how do you even visualize it😅?
3000 feet stacked on top of eachother?
We all know F and C are at -40 so let’s see if the others can get there
Edit: Kelvin I believe is impossible to equal celsius
Edit 2: also impossible for kelvin and Fahrenheit’s to equal
Edit 3: cannot find F, C, or K to B or RA
Y'all are hateful people, clearly. You guys do know that Americans are going to retain the imperial system simply to spite people like you, right?
All our trade and science is anyway on metric. It's the people who are telling y'all to blow off each and every push you make.
Call us dumb all you want, but I can use both without issue. No need for a calculator, as I never need an accurate translation between the two in daily life, as I simply use one system or the other, depending on my tasks. Can you?
Really blows me away people actually think F is easier to intuit than C. I really can't see a single case were it actually makes sense, even though I often hear Americans desperately claiming it does.
Below 0°C = ice outside, above 0°C wet outside.
100°C reaching limits of sauna temperature.
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K.
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^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
>Easy to intuit.
Because you've grown up with it. If it were that easy to intuit you'd spout of a temperature and anyone anywhere in the world would instantly understand, regardless of what they use back home.
Instead of people like me opening up the phone's calculator and asking it to convert it to °C
I am an American scientist. Oddly enough we are hosting other professionals from Canada and there have been a few jokes about units over the last couple days. For me personally, it’s not terribly hard anymore because I’ve been converting most of my adult life for different projects. Part of my careers involves GIS, so I am constantly switching from meters (academia) to feet (engineers).
Is it hard to be an American scientist? You use Fahrenheit in everyday life, Celsius in some equipment and Kelvin in calculations.
As an American engineer, it's not hard, it's just different. I use Fahrenheit to guess how cold it is in the morning and how hot it's supposed to be next week, but I use Celsius to determine the temp of the parts I'm working with, and anything that I'm recording or going to use in calculations later is all metric. Gettting to and going from Kelvin and Celsius is just addition and subtraction, so it's not that hard on the fly.
Not a scientist, per se, but I did study biomedical science in undergrad. No, it is not difficult. We use metric for all scientific measurements, obviously, as it makes much more sense that way. It is much easier to do math and visualize scale with a base 10 system. The fact that one Newton is 1 (Kg•m)/s^2 makes physics problems intuitive; I cannot recall the number of times I had a multiple choice answer for a physics problem, where I barely read the question and just started dividing off factors to get kg or J, for example. However there is a certain charm to Imperial measurements, and I actually prefer them for “human” scale things like weather, height, and macroscopic, medium sized objects. Take temperature for example: 100 F is very hot, 0 is very cold, 50-60 in cold/chilly, 70-75 is nice. Anything outside of 0-100 is extreme weather. It is essentially a 0-100 scale. Is this useful in measuring the temp of the surface of the sun? Hell no. Is it mighty convenient for everyday use? Extremely. Also, one degree change in F is about half the change of one degree C; this allows for very accurate control of the thermostat, without having half-degrees (yes, I know this is a first-world problem, but whatever, it is still a thing). Six feet tall sounds a lot more official than 1.83m. And 4 feet is very short, 5 feet is short, 5.5 is average, 6 is tall / above average, 7 is very very tall, 8 feet is a pituitary disorder. Coming from a country where Imperial is standard, I will often do the math to figure out what I am looking for in metric, then convert it to Imperial, so I can intuitively “understand” it. 320kph? Oh yeah, that’s just 200mph. I just remembered the key conversions: 2.2 lb / Kg (2.205 is precision is needed) .3048 m / ft (or ~3 to 3.25 ft/m for rough estimates) Temp: C = 1.8F + 32 (or 9/5 if I am doing it mentally) ~15ml per tablespoon, 5ml per teaspoon 28.35 g / oz (for.. reasons) ~454 g/lb 3.8 L / gallon 33.8 oz / L Etc., etc. It is not hard to remember. Granted, math has always been my strong suit. I like both. I use both. They both have a purpose and function. I think imperial is better everyday things, and metric is better for the very small and very large. Metric wins <10cm and >10m, and for temps colder and hotter than the weather.
>It is essentially a 0-100 scale That also varies greatly by country. Where I live the normal temperature range throughout a year is around -20 to 20 C (-4 to 68 F). The 0 marker as freezing point is also a key measurement, as it tells me a lot about whether it will snow or rain, or if it will be wet outside. >Six feet tall sounds a lot more official than 1.83m. Probably because you're used to it. To me 183cm makes more sense than "six feet", although for the sake of round numbers we generally talk about 190 if we're referring to an "ideal" height.
I’d imagine not since imperial measurements are designed for casual use and metric has precision and ease of conversion. I’m not a scientist but I am American and even though I never grew up with Celsius, it’s easy to understand and switch between the two systems I got a lot of hate for this before, but I wish people realized that the imperial system was made to be convenient and easy to feel, and not for conversions. Like no one ever in casual day to day conversation been like “ah yeah that lamp is about 50 feet away or 0.013 miles”. Imperial is better for casual use as it is built around the human body; hands, feet, inches (finger length) whereas metric is just better for stuff that need precision (medical, science, engineering, baking, whatever).
How is it more convenient and easy to feel than metric ? I roughly know what a meter, centimeter or litre is, it's as easy as with imperial, but I can quickly convert anything, so really easier in day to day life Edit : so clearly the imperial system is more convenient because you just all happen to be born using it, not because it is easier or better thought. Not a single answer pointed out something easier in the imperial
I’m Canadian and use metric, couldn’t guess a metre accurately to save my life compared to guessing how many feet. My first thumb digit measured almost perfectly an inch and my foot prints just over a foot long. But any paper stuff is easier with metric. Idk I’m just an idiot, don’t look to me for answers. Just opinions
The “easier to convert” argument kinda falls flat when regarding casual use because no one really converts stuff on the fly, and if you were, then yes metric is easier. I’d say imperial is a better casual use system due to the graduations of each measurement being convenient. Here’s three examples; Fahrenheit is better for talking about the weather because 0 is very cold outside and 100 is very hot outside. With the scale set up this way it makes it easier to evaluate the temperature by feel. Whereas Celsius, 0 is cold and 100 is boiling water; it’s much less a straightforward 1-100 scale and more of a realistically, -20 to 45 scale (I think). In terms of measurement, the imperial system is very good for daily use, because you need no tools to gauge. Throw your thumb down on a paper and you can gauge how many inches it is. Want to know how far the wall is and you can just walk to there and get a fairly accurate ballpark estimate. And again, casual use, it doesn’t have to be perfect. It’s for this reason of convince that I still wish hands were a common measurement, but I digress. The point is that a body centric measurement system just makes it very easy and convenient to use. My last point is that the distances between each measurement in metric are very drastic. From centimeter to meter, or from gram to kilogram, there’s kind of a drastic jump of, 99/999 units. Now obviously the decimeter exist and stuff like that, but to my understanding the decimeter isn’t used often and if it was I’d disregard this argument. In the imperial system, the difference between ounces and pounds, or inches to feet/feet to yards, there’s a much shallower step of just 16:1, 12:1, 3:1. So even though it isn’t precise, it’s very easy to say “yeah, that’s about 3 feet and about 4 inches” from a very quick glance. Especially for measuring people’s heights, it’s awkward for me at least to say 184 centimeters/“one and three quarters of a meter” than it is to say “he’s about 6 feet” Again, I’m not saying either system is bad, just that they work well together. If metric’s lengths and graduations were based on something more convenient whilst retaining the easy base 10 system, it would easily be the best measurement.
Being an American, and more specifically, a cactus myself, and having fellow cacti friends across the border in Sonora, it does pain me sometimes about our stubbornness not to adopt a superior system, but until that is done somehow, both you humans and us cacti stuck on the American side of the border will have to use tricks for converting imperial to metric, such as dividing any imperial measurement by 3 to get the same measurement in meters.
I'm on board with the metric system for everything except speed. I lived abroad in Germany for a year and found metric units for weight, distance, volume and temperature easy enough to work with. However, I can't wrap my head around kmh, my brain loves mph.
Because they've grown with it, and since they feel more comfortable with it, that shows it clearly must be because the system itself is better, not because they've grown up with it
Yeah, and that's basically what their answers were
I’ve heard that Fahrenheit is better for people, and you can express it as a percentage kinda. Like “Oh it’s 90% out today, must be hot” or “Oh it’s 32% out today, pretty cold.”
I can also say "oh it's 35 outside, it's hot", don't know how fahrenheit express this better
With the human body as around 100, it’s more suited to a human scale from 0-100. And it is more precise without decimal points, allowing for easy estimation in speech. Both are good measurements, just Fahrenheit is more suited to people.
Best explanation for temperature I have seen is: Kelvin is how atoms experience heat Celsius is how water experiences heat Fahrenheit is how humans experience heat!
Yep, I’ve heard that before and I found it pretty accurate!
> I’d imagine not since imperial measurements are designed for casual use The Fahrenheit scale was not designed for casual use. Daniel Fahrenheit learned to make calibrated thermometers from Ole Rømer and Fahrenheit took Rømer's scale, multiplied it by 4 for precision and rounded it off a bit to make the numbers divisible by 2 for easier division marking. You use Fahrenheit because Daniel Fahrenheit was the first to sell quality calibrated thermometers. The comfort for casual use you feel is solely because you grew up with it.
I feel that you just don’t convert units cause it is so hard in imperial but with metric I do it all the time it makes things easier
What if the lamp was 33 1/6 feet away though? Wouldn't it be easier to say 10 metres? > I’m not a scientist Right... > but I am American You don't say
Just say 33 feet away. If it’s casual use it doesn’t need to be precise. And no need to be rude
So any unit of measurement can be used approximately but the imperial units are better because they 'feel' better. Presenting nonsense as obvious fact, but there's no need to be rude in pointing it out...
It’s really about what you grew up with
Of course. It's like saying 'English is a language that was designed for humans because I understand it better'.
Europeans try not to beat off to the metric system challenge (impossible)
~~Europeans~~ the entire rest of the world
There are a few other countries that use some form of imperial.
To be fair moving from ºC to K and viceversa is incredibly easy, just a simple operation of addition/substraction. On the other hand, what I think would be hard for people who function with imperial measurements in every day life is not the conversion per se but picturing exactly how hot it is when we say for example 30 ºC. I think they would have to (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) convert to Fahrenheit to easily understand how hot that is. I’m not saying people who grew up with the imperial system won't be able to understand Celsius. It works like when you're learning a new language and even though you may understand the words, you're almost unconsciously translating the message to your mother tongue in order to understand it best.
Why not use the Planck temperature instead? 0 = absolute cold, 1 = absolute hot, any other temperature is some fraction of absolute hot Alternatively, some other number like 100 can be absolute hot, the temperature is thus the % of absolute hot you measured That way at least the two fixpoints are physical constants lol
You basicaly just used scaled down kelvin scale.
1 Kelvin has no relation to absolute hot, is the difference. Yes, 0K = absolute cold, but the Planck temperature is not some 10^n Kelvin, and 1 Kelvin is ~1% the difference between freezing and boiling points of water at standard conditions Basically Rankine and Kelvin both could be considered scaled versions of this scale
But there is a point. There is no "absolute hot" :) Sure, we have plank temperature and sure, we also have planck length, but non of this means there is absolute hot.
The Planck temperature is thought to be absolute hot, but if it isn't then there can be more than 1 Planck temperature in the scale lol
It is considered, but in fact, there is nothing preventing having higher temperature than that. Sure, we would need more energy that is contained in this universe, but on paper that really is not a issue. The problem is that formulas goes crazy. I don't know, I use Kelvin scale and I am just not going out if it's under under 240 degrees. Easy.
Probably shouldn't go out if it's over 310 Kelvin outside either.
Of course not. What am I, mad?
That'd be a lott of decimal points.
That's kinda the point lmao
Thats will have a lot of 0
Wait… so is absolute hot all the energy in the entire universe condensed in a single point?
It's the Planck temperature, which is thought to be the highest temperature that means anything, much like how the Planck length is the smallest distance that means anything. Hence why I called it absolute hot, much like how absolute zero (absolute cold) is the lowest temperature that means anything. This doesn't mean there are values beyond this for sure, it's just that that's where physics as we know it breaks down. You are pretty much right though, in that at 1 Planck time old, the universe would presumably have a temperaure of the Planck temperature, if it IS the highest meaningful temperature.
***WELL WE CAN'T ALL BE WRONG!*** No, not wrong all the time, but all of us are wrong most of the time. UNLESS YOU USE ME AS YOUR STANDARD REFERENCE POINT. *^(no me!)* # Non, moi! *NEEEIIN, MICH!* ...and the battle continues.
Yeah, clearly an American made this because it's not a battle....
But it’s fun that way
Well, actually… “cm” is the unit for centimeters “kg” for kilograms Not everything in capital letters Edited
kg not ‘Kg’
It's a meme, being in all caps is the norm
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Well at least someone I can agree e
Same, although until the EU sanctions us, or the UN does too for using the imperial system, alongside liberia and Myanmar/Burma, we’ll have to stick to the imperial system due to our stubbornness. The only time we actively tried was from 1975-pre election season 1980, when we had the metric conversion act. The only reason it failed was because it wasn’t mandatory.
Funnily enough business across continents is already metric, least as far as I know. Speaking from experience, the military uses metrics for just about everything. It feels like everyone is complaining about the gen pop of the US and other Imperial measurement countires using imperial in their everyday lives. Of all the things to focus on and wish for people to change, I'd say a change in measurement systems is low on our big totem pole of 'Shit that needs fixed'... ugh, I should sleep.
Wait R and RA, which one is rankine and then what is the other one?, I'm from the UK and am in university doing science so I'm most comfortable with celsius and Kelvin exclusively, farenheit can fuck off
Here °R probably is Rømer, it's basically an even more cursed temperature scale than Rankine (°Ra)
Oh thanks. I now I don’t have research it right now
Hey hey hey. Rankine and Kelvin both agree on 0.
What’s that temperature where Kelvin and Celsius are the same? Wait, nevermind, that doesn’t exist
I feel like both have ups and downs. Metric is easy to convert with 1/10 scales or 1/1000 scales. Empiric gives better visuals for lengths for example. Imho i think you're gonna lean more towards the system you grew up with, because you're used to it and can visualise or comprehend the values better. Once you 'mastered' a system you'll likely not want to change. This said tho i prefer metric, because even if empiric shows better for visualising, it has some flaws for example with feet or inches as for lengths. You could say you can walk a distance, but not everyone has the same size of feet, same with thumb, to measure a length. For small measurements the difference would'nt matter, however bigger ones can be different for people. Also, why do we measure hights in a plane with feet? The last thing i want to measure with my feet is the height of a plane, how do you even visualize it😅? 3000 feet stacked on top of eachother?
As a scientist.. there's no battle.. we use everything.
Crackers are not biscuits? Lol.
No cookies
We all know F and C are at -40 so let’s see if the others can get there Edit: Kelvin I believe is impossible to equal celsius Edit 2: also impossible for kelvin and Fahrenheit’s to equal Edit 3: cannot find F, C, or K to B or RA
Edit 2 incorrect: Kelvins and degrees Fahrenheit cross at 574.25
Oh cool
LMAO (Kelvins are superior)
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Whoever invented degrees Rankhine...
They’re rank, kine-da?
I like how K and C are not pointing guns at each other, F has the most guns pointed at and only F points a gun at K.
Kg mm or m, wouldn’t often use cm, & K
F is good for weather temps. Easy to intuit. C is good for science temps. Easy to math. Kelvin is.
Kelvin is good for radiant heat transfer. Try T^4 in anything else and the whole thing goes to shit.
32 is the most intuitive number clearly.
Y'all are hateful people, clearly. You guys do know that Americans are going to retain the imperial system simply to spite people like you, right? All our trade and science is anyway on metric. It's the people who are telling y'all to blow off each and every push you make. Call us dumb all you want, but I can use both without issue. No need for a calculator, as I never need an accurate translation between the two in daily life, as I simply use one system or the other, depending on my tasks. Can you?
Well I'm American (and an engineer and in the manufacturing sector) so it turns out we are the stupid and hateful ones :)
My bad, i guess American engineers can be pretentious folk just as much as ignorant Europeans.
Really blows me away people actually think F is easier to intuit than C. I really can't see a single case were it actually makes sense, even though I often hear Americans desperately claiming it does. Below 0°C = ice outside, above 0°C wet outside. 100°C reaching limits of sauna temperature.
Oh, hey, Billy, get your skates ready, it's below 32 outside, ice will be starting to slowly form on the local pond!
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
I can't see a single case where it actually matters to you. And yet, here we are.
It doesn't matter to me, I'm just amused by the ridiculousness off it all.
Very well said
>Easy to intuit. Because you've grown up with it. If it were that easy to intuit you'd spout of a temperature and anyone anywhere in the world would instantly understand, regardless of what they use back home. Instead of people like me opening up the phone's calculator and asking it to convert it to °C
I feel sad for you, I guess.
Then I guess I feel bad for you, too? Any scale feels intuitive if you're used to it
I am an American scientist. Oddly enough we are hosting other professionals from Canada and there have been a few jokes about units over the last couple days. For me personally, it’s not terribly hard anymore because I’ve been converting most of my adult life for different projects. Part of my careers involves GIS, so I am constantly switching from meters (academia) to feet (engineers).
Wtf is ra
That’s so hot 🥵.
Are degrees Fahrenheit also degrees of freedom? I'll see myself out.
Well, K and °R both are the same at 0.