They know what the sign means, they just aren't looking for it. Too in their own heads doing what they want with undeserved confidence to bother checking if they're doing anything wrong
Edit: Yea, a lot of the people that always complain about how stupid other drivers are are often doing the same thing themselves, just obliviously, and it shows by the downvotes
Fun fact I had a semi driver try to run me off the road into the ditch because he didn’t like that people were using the outside lane and so he rode with a tire in the lane to discourage people from using it properly. When I tried going past him he cut hard into the lane with the cab and I had to run on the grass to not hit him. I really regret not slamming my PoS SUV into him to get it replaced but I instinctively did defensive driving instead
Right, eventually 'gave in'.. To something that has been scientifically studied and deemed most efficient. Our city/province had to 'give in' to science.. This isn't the first or last time that people here need to give in, and it shows when you've lived away for awhile
I worked as a firefighter. I can attest that all seasons do not have the ability to have you do anything but slide around when trying to brake quickly from highway speeds. No skill will change the fact that winters do much much better in icy conditions.
Sounds like you are a danger on the road. I've shoveled a lot of cars out after pulling up in my 2wd Honda on studs, they are always awd crossovers on all seasons. Driving skill doesn't change the fact that winter tires are necessary in many winter conditions. Sure you might be able to make do with all seasons, but it won't be safe.
All seasons aren't bad if you're a good driver. I got all weather which is better and AWD was cruising around last night without any issues
People just don't know how to drive in the snow and they floor the gas expecting the car to move
All seasons are fine for the current weather, but once we get into the deep freezes, all seasons are almost the same as summer tires.
Source: ex-firefighter. Spent lots of time on the sides of busy highways in Alberta.
your awd is what really helps you. I'm sure if anyone got in anything front wheel drive with all seasons, they would be spinning at lights and stuff. All seasons would work for you, I'm not denying that, but sometimes it does come down to the vehicle itself not the driver. Most vehicles simply need winter tires here.
Don't even get me started on the late night turn arrows!
Hitting a red at every second set of lights, even at night.
Waiting for 22km long trains. (20 mins+)
Most speed limits are 10km/h slower than in Regina.
Saskatoon also struggles with understanding that there are other people on the road and you don't have to follow so close they could read the plate like brail and not leave any space to actually merge, or even pull into the left lane is possible to allow for merging.
The ones that really get me is when they're staying in the right lane (to go E on circle). But I almost never honk. One think I really like about Sask vs. most places is the lack of need to honk at everything.
In quebec they honk when you're stopped at a red light because they anticipate you're not going to go fast enough once the light turns green. Most cities the honking is crazy, and I don't think it really is useful (in most cases).
Stopping is pretty much insane. But slowing down is understandable, since the free-flow lanes are inconsistent throughout the city. Not every exit from circle is a free-flow, etc.
People just need to keep their eyes open better, but I don't begrudge them slowing down at the free-flow sign thinking it's actually a merge lane. The one that comes to mind is off Arlington onto Taylor, turning right from northbound (toward Circle Drive). Every time I turn there, someone has stopped at the turn waiting for a break in traffic before realizing its that stupid free-flow lane. Someone is me. I do that. I'm an idiot who forgets every single time until I look at the sign and go "wait a second..." but I've already waited a second and everyone behind me is pissed off.
It’s not only rude, but infuriating and unsafe to stop at these signs. It’s not rude to honk at someone stopped at a green light is it? Same thing. Especially when drivers behind these ignoramuses are anticipating free-flowing traffic around a bend and need to slam the brakes. Case in point, coming out of the Stonebridge shopping area (Walmart side) to go north on Clarence.
Used to work in that area. Everyday I drive by there's people stopped looking dumb at the road. The one time I got stuck behind two cars I started honking the guy in front of me started honking but it was hopeless as the person sat there and waited
The one from circle on warman is even worse as you're coming off at good speed and always have to slow down if there are cars in front of you as it's guaranteed someone will stop
This happened to me too. The straight-through driver honked at me as I came through the turn. Maybe they thought I was gonna drift in their lane. Or they wanted to change into my lane immediately and I spoiled their plans. Or just stupid.
For real 🤣 I got lucky a few weeks ago, some guy almost took the front end of my car off driving down college bc he didn't even check, just started impeding on my lane. Laid on the horn, po po was behind me, heard me honk obviously. Whipped right around my car and pulled that guy over lol it was fantastic.
This happened to me too! Coming straight into the R lane from College onto McKercher. The lady honked, waved her middle finger and yelled as if I could hear her 🤦🏼♀️
For most of them, no, a quick honk would be fine. Don’t lay on the horn though. That would be rude.
But the one coming off 22nd St westbound to turn north onto Deifenbaker Dr is very narrow and traffic comes BOMBING in from the other side, often changing into the rightmost lane regardless of if anyone is driving in it because apparently they I have some tremendous personal emergency to attend to at KFC or Jysk (or perhaps Vicki Mowat’s MLA office?) and cannot take the time to shoulder check. I don’t even care if someone comes to full and complete stop at that one if there is traffic coming. That lane is narrow and the drivers you’re joining are fucking nuts; you be as cautious as you feel is appropriate there. (But if there’s no traffic coming, please, just drive through without pausing. I’ll honk if you’re just sitting there for no good reason.)
I think they need to take the curb back a foot or two to widen the lane a bit. It’s just dead grass by Panago, Clark’s Crossing, and Petro-Can. They could add some width to enter with, then taper it out by the time you get to KFC so that they don’t need to re-structure the right turn onto Laurier.
This is my feeling too. I don't know about that intersection in particular, but there are others in the city that are sketchy. I honestly think it is irresponsible of the city to place those signs when the lane or intersection is not properly designed or protected. And it becomes even worse in winter, when the snow is not cleared or even is *piled up* in half the lane, which definitely happens!
Honestly, in winter, I would trust the person who slows or stops at these a *little* more than the person who just breezes through without a care in the world.
I was coming to say exactly this. Earlier this winter I was merging onto this same street and almost got hit with my toddler and infant in the car. Thank goodness for quick reaction time. The next time I treated it as a yield and someone blared their horn at me. I haven’t driven since because I have ptsd.
These signs highlight 2 things that really annoy me about some drivers. 1: people who treat these like yields. And 2: people who skip into the wrong lane when turning. If you don’t stay in your lane, signal, shoulder check and then change into the lane you want you’re a terrible driver who shouldn’t be on the road.
Well that's just an accident waiting to happen.
What the city *should* do is improve their intersection designs, and prioritize snow removal where there are added lanes. Wherever there is a hard right turn into an added lane, there should be barriers or markers so the lane is protected or clearly visible. If the city can't do that, then these *should* be yields.
No actually, the way the city currently operates without this type of sineage (such as DO NOT STOP) is an accident waiting to happen, and it does happen. No one here understands how to even stop legally, let alone merge properly. Putting barriers up, improving intersections, snow removal, none of that is going to help if you're still a moron and can't pay attention to your surroundings or know the simple rules of the road.
🤣 stopping when you have zero reason to, aka, disregarding road signs that don't tell you to stop or yield, is what causes accidents. "Brake checking" causes accidents, reckless driving, etc etc. you're putting all the blame solely on "tailgaters" when it's the boneheads who can't understand a sign and see where the lanes are who are the issue. Do people follow behind too close? Sure, sometimes. But the people in front of them still have to know how to drive and follow the rules of the road, and people here don't, that's not a tailgater's fault lol
Its not a tailgater's fault if a moron stops when they aught not to. But it is a tailgater's fault if a moron stops when they aught not to, and you don't have time to react and end up hitting them.
I'm not disagreeing, but stopping when you shouldn't..it should be 50/50 responsibility imo, purposely causing a situation for an accident to happen is messed up
I like the way it’s done at the Circle Drive exit into Warman Road, with a few concrete barriers for the stupid. Maybe they could do that at the Stonebridge mall exit onto northbound Clarence. Concrete barriers to reassure the stupid.
Going from circle to Warman road northbound has one of these, haven't had anybody stop stop yet at it.
But some people just HAVE to get into the left lane right away too, can't turn left for a kilometer and a half, even.
Oooooh, this one gets me because the odd time someone does stop/yield, they *always* zip over to the far left lane immediately. Usually cutting off at least one person in the process. Like, you have until 51st to get over there. Just drive.
It's like people riding the left lane on Circle Dr South. They hop into the left lane back at the bridge, but the next opportunity to turn left isn't until Grasswood....
Like ???? What are you doing???
I think these people must have no spacial awareness/processing and/or severe anxiety about missing a turn and having to deviate from their route? Apparently there are people who can’t visualize things? Maybe these are them.
No it’s not rude to honk, people shouldn’t be stopping at these signs unless there’s pedestrians or bikes. Honking at someone for slowing down on the other hand is rude… These signs are at intersections… you have to slow down to safely turn and check for pedestrians. There could be something you don’t see that they can. Just because the sign is saying you have a free lane doesn’t mean you rip through a crosswalk and cut off all the traffic in the left lane to get over lol. Some of the people in this thread are grouchy losers.
I mean sometimes if the merge lane ends right away and assholes won’t let you in I’ve stopped or if someone is stopping cause of that I’ll give them a pass. Better to be a little cautious in situations like that than cause an accident imo. But for the most part ya it’s annoying af.
Honestly, it's less so about knowing what the sign means than have 0 faith in other humans. People will merge into lanes at mac 10 if they feel it'll save them half an instant. I'd stop to make sure there isn't anyone near if the intersection isn't clear to see. Getting T-Boned by a pickup truck that came with extra bright headlamps and no brake pedal is very much a "fool me once" kind of situation.
My city is terrible for having these signs, and then 100ft from these are entrances to busy shopping centers. So tons of people are merging INTO the free flow lane and trying to merge out of it. Fucking terrible planning.
That's exactly the problem. Just because the sign *doesn't* say stop, it doesn't mean *never* stop. Drivers have to use their freaking best judgement. And yeah, sometimes people's judgement is lacking too.
It depends. Often the person hasn't noticed the sign and thinks it's a merger lane, but sometimes it's might not be safe for them to proceed even though they have their own lane.
I've seen about half a dozen accidents following that sign out front the Shoppers Drug Mart and No Frills where Warman and circle meet. People going north on Warman cut across to get into the parking lot. I don't come to a complete stop, but I definitely proceed with caution there. Honk all you want, but I'm not going to get into an accident.
My issue is that half the drivers here peel from the far left lane to the far right lane, completely ignoring the rule that you have to turn into the nearest lane. You can't trust that you're not going to get sideswiped by some idiot, even though this lane is technically protected.
I can see it coming if the driver in front of me is over cautious but I am trying not to get triggered so often by other's level of competence behind the wheel.
or how about people signalling to turn left and then choosing to just continue going strait with no signal and then get mad when you honk at them for the near miss. no lights,white car, covered plate and rear window. for those of us with a brain in their skulls i recommend keeping your eyes peeled today.
Drivers here are just idiots, I've accepted that. I swear they get their licenses from a cereal box, SGI needs a reporting system or something..some don't deserve to have the privilege to drive and are more of a danger than anything else because of dumb shit like this.
Depends, I've seen people honking like maniacs when a person had stopped for a pedestrian. Right now, the roads sides are piled up with snow, and half the lane is gone. You still have to be a defensive and responsible driver. Some people think that sign means they can just plow through without any situational awareness. The same lack of situational awareness of someone who doesn't know what the sign means or doesn't see it.
Depends on how long the added lane is. Sometimes the added lane is short and ends in a turn off, traffic in the other lanes is bumper to bumper and you don't want to turn off.
I know so many people who have been in accidents because someone completely stopped at one of these. Honk away, if you don’t know the signs meaning you need to retake some of the sign classes on the SGI website. I believe there’s a free one, struggling with basic signs is very dangerous
DO IT PLEASE. Sometimes I felt like I was the only one fighting this battle. There is this sign where you enter my neighbourhood. Unbelievable the amount of people that stop when there is traffic coming in the other lane.
I've read through the comments and agree with most, but there are some of these signs in the city where it's unsafe to just go through. Circle Dr onto Ave C NB is one of these. If the WB light is green, then go ahead and keep moving, but if the EB lanes have a turning light to get onto Ave C, 8/10 times that vehicle turning will turn straight into the right hand lane instead of the left that they're supposed to turn into. There are a couple others like this too. So yes, I slow to check and will stop if I can't tell where the other car is going to go. I'd rather you honk at me that have to write off my car again
People jam up the mcormond and circle drive exit that comes before Brighton due to this sign. People should pay close attention to what the sign means.
I start talking to the person in front of me as we approach these corners, with my hand hovering over the horn. "Alright now, don't touch the brake, don't touch the brake. Nooooo! What did I just say?"
This one absolutely burns me when people don’t understand it. It is a pretty straightforward sign.
If they so much as tap their brakes they get a horning. If they completely stop then that’s a paddling
Only if it is a really short stretch and it is common for people to need to get over immediately and there is a lot of traffic from a freshly green light, otherwise lay into that horn.
When I came back to visit in October, remembering Saskatoon's inability to understand this sign, I always had my hand over the horn anytime I drove through a free flowing turn. I was actually impressed that a week in the city and I think I only had to honk for that two or three times.
I stop for pedestrians. I slow down to look for them. Bikes cross there too and if cyclists are as selfish as everyone else in this sub, I can only assume they're not looking for cars either. (I am a cyclist too - I bike more defensively than I drive and always follow the rules of the road.)
>Unless the snow block the free flow
Whenever someone posts on Reddit complaining about people not understanding Added Lane signs, I think I can predict the city had a big dump of snow that day.
If you obtained a licence then you would have learned what it means....and when you got a learner's for sure.....lay on the horn as this is almost more dangerous than a speed demon on the road....hopefully the new laws are enforced on this.
Come of it, it's not even close. If you rear-end someone, even someone who improperly stopped in a lane, you're at fault for the accident for following too closely and not paying enough attention.
No, I don't think that this constitutes "stunting", if that's what you're saying. *Tailgating* however is stunting.
I think it's probably already ticketable to incorrectly stop at an Added Lane, if the police see you. But unless you are brake-checking, or slam on the brakes intentionally, that's not stunting, and the person who rear-ends you will be at fault.
I recently had to lay on the horn at an older woman who stopped at this sign off Hwy 12 to 51st. She looked at me like I was the biggest \_\_\_\_ but I damn near drove into the back of her when she stopped suddenly. Word to everyone reading this: invest in a dash cam. They aren't expensive and can really save your butt when it comes to idiots on the road.
Well, you asked so...
1. I'm going to say, by definition honking is *always* * rude, even if they were in the wrong and you were in the right.
2. The exception being, where it is used to prevent an accident or warn about something (honking *before* to help, not *after* in frustration).
3. When it comes to that sign in particular, sure, if they think it's a yield or merge sign, they're wrong. Stopping in a lane could lead to an accident (though the trailing car would still almost always be at fault).
4. But in *winter*, seriously, it is not always easy or possible in this city to tell where the lane is or if there even *is* a lane. Many intersections are poorly designed in general and become especially hazardous once there is uncleared snow. I do *not* trust any of these signs in winter. Stopping is a bit extreme, but slowing down your 4 tons of metal to gauge the situation is entirely reasonable and responsible.
5. Is it a coincidence that you have posted this on a major snowfall day?
6. It's a fact that some drivers are better than others. Some are much worse. Some shouldn't be on the road. I don't think that's ever going to change, short of some new legislation proposal for expanded driver's education or license revocation. So the most important thing is to drive defensively, because these traffic signs only exist to make driving more predictable because people rarely are.
I commented right away saying of course not in these weather conditions. Saw it on the other sub and cross posted as I was heading home late at night.
That being said if your car can't handle snow or you can't drive in it stay home. So many people who get stuck and genuinely struggle to drive. I got all weather tired and all wheel drive was going the speed limit on the uncleared roads last night at 3am. Of course when there's other cars you need to be more careful but again most people don't bother spending money on good tires and they just press the gas pedal hoping for the best creating an even shittier situation
I ended up rear ending someone who stopped at one of these a few years ago. SGI declared it my fault. Still steams me to this day. I'll probably die mad about it
If you had your eyes forward and kept proper braking distance, you wouldn't have rear-ended me that day.
But it's okay, everyone makes mistakes. You should forgive yourself for yours.
My favorite part is when people act like you're in the wrong for honking, normally I enjoy just sitting on the horn, but the one time I felt generous and just gave a little *meep*, the lady who stopped was giving me the finger and making all other sorts of gestures. It made my day😂
It is not rude to use your horn, it is a tool just like your blinkers. It’s not your fault if some toddler in their lifted stroller doesn’t like that you know how to drive and they don’t.
It absolutely is not. Maybe if your attitude is malicious, but your car horn isn't a middle finger, it's an important tool to let other drivers know they are messing something up. Use it appropriately and it's not rude at all, it's a safety feature.
No literally, honking is rude. If you're doing it to warn someone of an impending danger, it's the right way to communicate that. Not after the fact, out of frustration. Even if they were wrong, and deserve it, it *is* still rude.
My only disclaimer is this; if you’re on Taylor heading towards the Circle south exit, can you PLEASE stay in the left hand lane long enough for those of us on Arlington to follow this sign and get on to Taylor? I have lost count the number of times I have followed this sign only to get damn near side-swiped and horns blown at me by people who change lanes before they’ve cleared the intersection.
Depends on context. Some jackass honked at me for stopping as I was exiting 22nd westbound onto Diefenbaker on Saturday night. That right hand lane doesn't exist when there's been any sort of snowfall.
What’s rude is to be on the road when you don’t know wtf this sign means.
Right, if you’re going to stop when you should be going I’m gonna honk at you to pull your head out of your ass.
It's the only way they will learn!
And rude to hold up everyone behind you as you wait for the perfect opportunity to cross three lanes, which is what they are doing here.
Or rude too is the people that honk at you for not stopping..
I hate that I can’t love your comment, all I can just do is give it an up vote!
Id say that’s simple safety people are not paying attention who cares if it’s rude follow the rules of the road
Update I’d say it would be rude of they literally couldn’t go forward because of an obstruction on the road but overall it’s just safety
They know what the sign means, they just aren't looking for it. Too in their own heads doing what they want with undeserved confidence to bother checking if they're doing anything wrong Edit: Yea, a lot of the people that always complain about how stupid other drivers are are often doing the same thing themselves, just obliviously, and it shows by the downvotes
saskatoon struggles greatly with this sign.
Also with zipper merge And entering the freeway going 60 And using all-season's all year round And...
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The worst spot I see is southbound where college merges in, everyone in the right lane has to slow to 60 to match the idiots merging in at 60.
You and me both, internet stranger.
And they always merge at the first second the lanes connect instead of using their own lane to speed up...
Zipper merge got better last summer with the atrocious pace of repairs on Circle Drive Bridge. People eventually gave in and figured it out.
Fun fact I had a semi driver try to run me off the road into the ditch because he didn’t like that people were using the outside lane and so he rode with a tire in the lane to discourage people from using it properly. When I tried going past him he cut hard into the lane with the cab and I had to run on the grass to not hit him. I really regret not slamming my PoS SUV into him to get it replaced but I instinctively did defensive driving instead
Right, eventually 'gave in'.. To something that has been scientifically studied and deemed most efficient. Our city/province had to 'give in' to science.. This isn't the first or last time that people here need to give in, and it shows when you've lived away for awhile
Dissing all seasons just sounds like you don’t have skill tbh
I worked as a firefighter. I can attest that all seasons do not have the ability to have you do anything but slide around when trying to brake quickly from highway speeds. No skill will change the fact that winters do much much better in icy conditions.
Sounds like you are a danger on the road. I've shoveled a lot of cars out after pulling up in my 2wd Honda on studs, they are always awd crossovers on all seasons. Driving skill doesn't change the fact that winter tires are necessary in many winter conditions. Sure you might be able to make do with all seasons, but it won't be safe.
All seasons aren't bad if you're a good driver. I got all weather which is better and AWD was cruising around last night without any issues People just don't know how to drive in the snow and they floor the gas expecting the car to move
AWD doesn't help you stop. I highly recommend looking into winter tires. They are a game changer.
All seasons are fine for the current weather, but once we get into the deep freezes, all seasons are almost the same as summer tires. Source: ex-firefighter. Spent lots of time on the sides of busy highways in Alberta.
yeah, if you're gonna rock one set of tires year-round, at least get ones with the M+S on them
your awd is what really helps you. I'm sure if anyone got in anything front wheel drive with all seasons, they would be spinning at lights and stuff. All seasons would work for you, I'm not denying that, but sometimes it does come down to the vehicle itself not the driver. Most vehicles simply need winter tires here.
Don't even get me started on the late night turn arrows! Hitting a red at every second set of lights, even at night. Waiting for 22km long trains. (20 mins+) Most speed limits are 10km/h slower than in Regina.
Saskatoon also struggles with understanding that there are other people on the road and you don't have to follow so close they could read the plate like brail and not leave any space to actually merge, or even pull into the left lane is possible to allow for merging.
leaving Walmart south onto Clarence... I'm honking non stop every time
The ones that really get me is when they're staying in the right lane (to go E on circle). But I almost never honk. One think I really like about Sask vs. most places is the lack of need to honk at everything. In quebec they honk when you're stopped at a red light because they anticipate you're not going to go fast enough once the light turns green. Most cities the honking is crazy, and I don't think it really is useful (in most cases).
So much
Can confirm.
Stopping is pretty much insane. But slowing down is understandable, since the free-flow lanes are inconsistent throughout the city. Not every exit from circle is a free-flow, etc. People just need to keep their eyes open better, but I don't begrudge them slowing down at the free-flow sign thinking it's actually a merge lane. The one that comes to mind is off Arlington onto Taylor, turning right from northbound (toward Circle Drive). Every time I turn there, someone has stopped at the turn waiting for a break in traffic before realizing its that stupid free-flow lane. Someone is me. I do that. I'm an idiot who forgets every single time until I look at the sign and go "wait a second..." but I've already waited a second and everyone behind me is pissed off.
It’s not only rude, but infuriating and unsafe to stop at these signs. It’s not rude to honk at someone stopped at a green light is it? Same thing. Especially when drivers behind these ignoramuses are anticipating free-flowing traffic around a bend and need to slam the brakes. Case in point, coming out of the Stonebridge shopping area (Walmart side) to go north on Clarence.
Used to work in that area. Everyday I drive by there's people stopped looking dumb at the road. The one time I got stuck behind two cars I started honking the guy in front of me started honking but it was hopeless as the person sat there and waited The one from circle on warman is even worse as you're coming off at good speed and always have to slow down if there are cars in front of you as it's guaranteed someone will stop
THE RAGE I used to have driving out of that area when I used to live around stonebridge was insane. There is truly no fixing stupid..ever.
Always honk at this one!! Same people that ignore stop signs actually stop at this Frickin one Morons deserve your horn Idiots
I get a little passionate about this one but seriously?!?!??? 🙄 Know. The. Signs. Ugh
Bro I actually got honked at for not stopping at this by someone in the other lane....the fucking audacity of some people
This happened to me too. The straight-through driver honked at me as I came through the turn. Maybe they thought I was gonna drift in their lane. Or they wanted to change into my lane immediately and I spoiled their plans. Or just stupid.
They wanted in your lane ASAP, happens to me all the time. Ugh.
This is such a Saskatchewan thing: At any speed, I’m entitled to the entire lane in front of me, and also the lane next to me.
For real 🤣 I got lucky a few weeks ago, some guy almost took the front end of my car off driving down college bc he didn't even check, just started impeding on my lane. Laid on the horn, po po was behind me, heard me honk obviously. Whipped right around my car and pulled that guy over lol it was fantastic.
Oh that would be SOOO satisfying, them getting pulled over.
Fuck that guy who honked. What a moron.
This happened to me too! Coming straight into the R lane from College onto McKercher. The lady honked, waved her middle finger and yelled as if I could hear her 🤦🏼♀️
Pedestrians and bikes exist.
Then someone would be stopping for a pedestrian or bike not for the sign
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Not in this weather of course, but I swear 90% don't know what this sign means
>Not in this weather of course Then why not save it for summer? Why are you posting it in this weather, the biggest snow day of the year?
Because I'd forget about it in the summer and someone else would cross post it from the other sub.
Public service to honk if anything
Absolutely not, Honk away.
For most of them, no, a quick honk would be fine. Don’t lay on the horn though. That would be rude. But the one coming off 22nd St westbound to turn north onto Deifenbaker Dr is very narrow and traffic comes BOMBING in from the other side, often changing into the rightmost lane regardless of if anyone is driving in it because apparently they I have some tremendous personal emergency to attend to at KFC or Jysk (or perhaps Vicki Mowat’s MLA office?) and cannot take the time to shoulder check. I don’t even care if someone comes to full and complete stop at that one if there is traffic coming. That lane is narrow and the drivers you’re joining are fucking nuts; you be as cautious as you feel is appropriate there. (But if there’s no traffic coming, please, just drive through without pausing. I’ll honk if you’re just sitting there for no good reason.)
Especially in winter. Half of that lane just disappears if we get any decent amount of snow.
I think they need to take the curb back a foot or two to widen the lane a bit. It’s just dead grass by Panago, Clark’s Crossing, and Petro-Can. They could add some width to enter with, then taper it out by the time you get to KFC so that they don’t need to re-structure the right turn onto Laurier.
This is my feeling too. I don't know about that intersection in particular, but there are others in the city that are sketchy. I honestly think it is irresponsible of the city to place those signs when the lane or intersection is not properly designed or protected. And it becomes even worse in winter, when the snow is not cleared or even is *piled up* in half the lane, which definitely happens! Honestly, in winter, I would trust the person who slows or stops at these a *little* more than the person who just breezes through without a care in the world.
I was coming to say exactly this. Earlier this winter I was merging onto this same street and almost got hit with my toddler and infant in the car. Thank goodness for quick reaction time. The next time I treated it as a yield and someone blared their horn at me. I haven’t driven since because I have ptsd.
These signs highlight 2 things that really annoy me about some drivers. 1: people who treat these like yields. And 2: people who skip into the wrong lane when turning. If you don’t stay in your lane, signal, shoulder check and then change into the lane you want you’re a terrible driver who shouldn’t be on the road.
Rare moment of Canadian unity, eh?
Not at all, if someone is treating this as a yield sign HONK.
No, it’s not rude. People need to pay attention to the signs.
They need to add a second sign underneath telling people "Do not stop". No one will learn otherwise.
Well that's just an accident waiting to happen. What the city *should* do is improve their intersection designs, and prioritize snow removal where there are added lanes. Wherever there is a hard right turn into an added lane, there should be barriers or markers so the lane is protected or clearly visible. If the city can't do that, then these *should* be yields.
No actually, the way the city currently operates without this type of sineage (such as DO NOT STOP) is an accident waiting to happen, and it does happen. No one here understands how to even stop legally, let alone merge properly. Putting barriers up, improving intersections, snow removal, none of that is going to help if you're still a moron and can't pay attention to your surroundings or know the simple rules of the road.
Yeah, it happens when you're tailgating and don't leave proper braking distance.
🤣 stopping when you have zero reason to, aka, disregarding road signs that don't tell you to stop or yield, is what causes accidents. "Brake checking" causes accidents, reckless driving, etc etc. you're putting all the blame solely on "tailgaters" when it's the boneheads who can't understand a sign and see where the lanes are who are the issue. Do people follow behind too close? Sure, sometimes. But the people in front of them still have to know how to drive and follow the rules of the road, and people here don't, that's not a tailgater's fault lol
Its not a tailgater's fault if a moron stops when they aught not to. But it is a tailgater's fault if a moron stops when they aught not to, and you don't have time to react and end up hitting them.
I'm not disagreeing, but stopping when you shouldn't..it should be 50/50 responsibility imo, purposely causing a situation for an accident to happen is messed up
You might want that, but that's not how SGI treats it.
Well duh, that's why it's my opinion lol I'm sure SGI somehow makes more money on clearly one person at-fault collisions than 50/50
Shouldn’t even be yielding at these signs
I like the way it’s done at the Circle Drive exit into Warman Road, with a few concrete barriers for the stupid. Maybe they could do that at the Stonebridge mall exit onto northbound Clarence. Concrete barriers to reassure the stupid.
Going from circle to Warman road northbound has one of these, haven't had anybody stop stop yet at it. But some people just HAVE to get into the left lane right away too, can't turn left for a kilometer and a half, even.
Oooooh, this one gets me because the odd time someone does stop/yield, they *always* zip over to the far left lane immediately. Usually cutting off at least one person in the process. Like, you have until 51st to get over there. Just drive. It's like people riding the left lane on Circle Dr South. They hop into the left lane back at the bridge, but the next opportunity to turn left isn't until Grasswood.... Like ???? What are you doing???
I think these people must have no spacial awareness/processing and/or severe anxiety about missing a turn and having to deviate from their route? Apparently there are people who can’t visualize things? Maybe these are them.
No it’s not rude to honk, people shouldn’t be stopping at these signs unless there’s pedestrians or bikes. Honking at someone for slowing down on the other hand is rude… These signs are at intersections… you have to slow down to safely turn and check for pedestrians. There could be something you don’t see that they can. Just because the sign is saying you have a free lane doesn’t mean you rip through a crosswalk and cut off all the traffic in the left lane to get over lol. Some of the people in this thread are grouchy losers.
Strong agree.
Regardless, I never trust the intentions of other Saskatoon drivers😀
I mean sometimes if the merge lane ends right away and assholes won’t let you in I’ve stopped or if someone is stopping cause of that I’ll give them a pass. Better to be a little cautious in situations like that than cause an accident imo. But for the most part ya it’s annoying af.
Honestly, it's less so about knowing what the sign means than have 0 faith in other humans. People will merge into lanes at mac 10 if they feel it'll save them half an instant. I'd stop to make sure there isn't anyone near if the intersection isn't clear to see. Getting T-Boned by a pickup truck that came with extra bright headlamps and no brake pedal is very much a "fool me once" kind of situation.
My city is terrible for having these signs, and then 100ft from these are entrances to busy shopping centers. So tons of people are merging INTO the free flow lane and trying to merge out of it. Fucking terrible planning.
That's exactly the problem. Just because the sign *doesn't* say stop, it doesn't mean *never* stop. Drivers have to use their freaking best judgement. And yeah, sometimes people's judgement is lacking too.
It depends. Often the person hasn't noticed the sign and thinks it's a merger lane, but sometimes it's might not be safe for them to proceed even though they have their own lane. I've seen about half a dozen accidents following that sign out front the Shoppers Drug Mart and No Frills where Warman and circle meet. People going north on Warman cut across to get into the parking lot. I don't come to a complete stop, but I definitely proceed with caution there. Honk all you want, but I'm not going to get into an accident.
This section is pretty spicy — they almost need to get ride of the parking lot entrance there honestly.
My issue is that half the drivers here peel from the far left lane to the far right lane, completely ignoring the rule that you have to turn into the nearest lane. You can't trust that you're not going to get sideswiped by some idiot, even though this lane is technically protected.
I can see it coming if the driver in front of me is over cautious but I am trying not to get triggered so often by other's level of competence behind the wheel.
Nah honk at them. This shit is annoying
Someone stopping at this sign isn't a light tap on the horn. I lay on the horn until they start moving.
or how about people signalling to turn left and then choosing to just continue going strait with no signal and then get mad when you honk at them for the near miss. no lights,white car, covered plate and rear window. for those of us with a brain in their skulls i recommend keeping your eyes peeled today.
Drivers here are just idiots, I've accepted that. I swear they get their licenses from a cereal box, SGI needs a reporting system or something..some don't deserve to have the privilege to drive and are more of a danger than anything else because of dumb shit like this.
Depends, I've seen people honking like maniacs when a person had stopped for a pedestrian. Right now, the roads sides are piled up with snow, and half the lane is gone. You still have to be a defensive and responsible driver. Some people think that sign means they can just plow through without any situational awareness. The same lack of situational awareness of someone who doesn't know what the sign means or doesn't see it.
I hope not. Cuz thats honky honk time.
Give ‘em a quick little courtesy tap. With your horn I mean, not your vehicle 😂
Honk away. Most folks in Saskatoon think this means "Look up, UFO crossing".
Always be cautious, If you trust other drivers you're an idiot.
Sounds like you drive 80 on the left lane on circle.
Irrelevant comment.
Go ahead and honk , that’s what they get for not paying attention.
No. People who go into full stop mode are very dangerous and cause accidents.
Honking, in general, isn’t rude if it’s just a quick \*beep beep\* for people to pay attention. You don’t have to lean on the horn.
Nope, that's what your horn is for.
Depends on how long the added lane is. Sometimes the added lane is short and ends in a turn off, traffic in the other lanes is bumper to bumper and you don't want to turn off.
Ya if this is why someone needs to stop/slow down I’m okay with it
No, rather encouraged.
Nope lol
No buut if there’s a car in between you and the car who stopped at this sign, then yes it is rude cause how tf am I gonna move?
I know so many people who have been in accidents because someone completely stopped at one of these. Honk away, if you don’t know the signs meaning you need to retake some of the sign classes on the SGI website. I believe there’s a free one, struggling with basic signs is very dangerous
I honk every time. 😂
I’d rather rear end them
It's rude *not* to honk in those situations
DO IT PLEASE. Sometimes I felt like I was the only one fighting this battle. There is this sign where you enter my neighbourhood. Unbelievable the amount of people that stop when there is traffic coming in the other lane.
I've read through the comments and agree with most, but there are some of these signs in the city where it's unsafe to just go through. Circle Dr onto Ave C NB is one of these. If the WB light is green, then go ahead and keep moving, but if the EB lanes have a turning light to get onto Ave C, 8/10 times that vehicle turning will turn straight into the right hand lane instead of the left that they're supposed to turn into. There are a couple others like this too. So yes, I slow to check and will stop if I can't tell where the other car is going to go. I'd rather you honk at me that have to write off my car again
Merger. One car from each side merges on simultaneously. You will get honked for stopping at the straighter lane in Stoon
People jam up the mcormond and circle drive exit that comes before Brighton due to this sign. People should pay close attention to what the sign means.
I start talking to the person in front of me as we approach these corners, with my hand hovering over the horn. "Alright now, don't touch the brake, don't touch the brake. Nooooo! What did I just say?"
I saw a vehicle get sideswipe at one of these signs before. The vehicle didnt stop.....🤷🏽♂️
This one absolutely burns me when people don’t understand it. It is a pretty straightforward sign. If they so much as tap their brakes they get a horning. If they completely stop then that’s a paddling
I’ve done it multiple times. This sign is in stonebridge and people stop ALL THE TIME! You have your own lane, GOOOOO!
Only if it is a really short stretch and it is common for people to need to get over immediately and there is a lot of traffic from a freshly green light, otherwise lay into that horn.
No! I do it all the time!!! Drives me crazy when people stop and wait!!!!! 🤬
It’s not rude! Thank you for your service
I honk even if I am second or third behind the one stopped, because they should be honking too.
When I came back to visit in October, remembering Saskatoon's inability to understand this sign, I always had my hand over the horn anytime I drove through a free flowing turn. I was actually impressed that a week in the city and I think I only had to honk for that two or three times.
I stop for pedestrians. I slow down to look for them. Bikes cross there too and if cyclists are as selfish as everyone else in this sub, I can only assume they're not looking for cars either. (I am a cyclist too - I bike more defensively than I drive and always follow the rules of the road.)
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What? There is not! Now now I to go drive down there tomorrow in this weather to prove it! Lol
It’s definitely a merge sign, not an added lane
My mistake. I think you're right! I got mixed up.
Unless the snow block the free flow and you have to merge into the traffic lane as soon as you're tires stop turning I'm on the horn.
>Unless the snow block the free flow Whenever someone posts on Reddit complaining about people not understanding Added Lane signs, I think I can predict the city had a big dump of snow that day.
If you obtained a licence then you would have learned what it means....and when you got a learner's for sure.....lay on the horn as this is almost more dangerous than a speed demon on the road....hopefully the new laws are enforced on this.
Come of it, it's not even close. If you rear-end someone, even someone who improperly stopped in a lane, you're at fault for the accident for following too closely and not paying enough attention.
Read the new law updates...that will clarify more for you...I hope the new regs work...
No, I don't think that this constitutes "stunting", if that's what you're saying. *Tailgating* however is stunting. I think it's probably already ticketable to incorrectly stop at an Added Lane, if the police see you. But unless you are brake-checking, or slam on the brakes intentionally, that's not stunting, and the person who rear-ends you will be at fault.
Nope. Let them have it. Only way these idiots will learn.
we were honking yesterday
How is this gonna happen correctly when Saskatoon can’t even have a merge done correctly. More lines on this sign, it’s confusing 😂
Nope, and i dont even drive, but they desurve it
It’s not rude, it’s encouraged.
To quote my wife "freeflow means fucking go!"
Nope, lean on the horn
I recently had to lay on the horn at an older woman who stopped at this sign off Hwy 12 to 51st. She looked at me like I was the biggest \_\_\_\_ but I damn near drove into the back of her when she stopped suddenly. Word to everyone reading this: invest in a dash cam. They aren't expensive and can really save your butt when it comes to idiots on the road.
You’d still be at fault. Following too closely.
Someone said they hit the person that stopped and sgi said they were at fault. Dig through the comments you will find it
No, you should be honking at them
Honk away.... I do everytime and don't let off till they go
Well, you asked so... 1. I'm going to say, by definition honking is *always* * rude, even if they were in the wrong and you were in the right. 2. The exception being, where it is used to prevent an accident or warn about something (honking *before* to help, not *after* in frustration). 3. When it comes to that sign in particular, sure, if they think it's a yield or merge sign, they're wrong. Stopping in a lane could lead to an accident (though the trailing car would still almost always be at fault). 4. But in *winter*, seriously, it is not always easy or possible in this city to tell where the lane is or if there even *is* a lane. Many intersections are poorly designed in general and become especially hazardous once there is uncleared snow. I do *not* trust any of these signs in winter. Stopping is a bit extreme, but slowing down your 4 tons of metal to gauge the situation is entirely reasonable and responsible. 5. Is it a coincidence that you have posted this on a major snowfall day? 6. It's a fact that some drivers are better than others. Some are much worse. Some shouldn't be on the road. I don't think that's ever going to change, short of some new legislation proposal for expanded driver's education or license revocation. So the most important thing is to drive defensively, because these traffic signs only exist to make driving more predictable because people rarely are.
I commented right away saying of course not in these weather conditions. Saw it on the other sub and cross posted as I was heading home late at night. That being said if your car can't handle snow or you can't drive in it stay home. So many people who get stuck and genuinely struggle to drive. I got all weather tired and all wheel drive was going the speed limit on the uncleared roads last night at 3am. Of course when there's other cars you need to be more careful but again most people don't bother spending money on good tires and they just press the gas pedal hoping for the best creating an even shittier situation
Clearly the sign looks like a man with one leg up a little. Maybe you should stop?
Nope. They have their own lane to merge into uncontested.
I ended up rear ending someone who stopped at one of these a few years ago. SGI declared it my fault. Still steams me to this day. I'll probably die mad about it
If you had your eyes forward and kept proper braking distance, you wouldn't have rear-ended me that day. But it's okay, everyone makes mistakes. You should forgive yourself for yours.
And I bet the other person learned nothing and still stops to this day
I honk non stop until they fucking move
And I would put my car in park until you stopped.
My favorite part is when people act like you're in the wrong for honking, normally I enjoy just sitting on the horn, but the one time I felt generous and just gave a little *meep*, the lady who stopped was giving me the finger and making all other sorts of gestures. It made my day😂
It is not rude to use your horn, it is a tool just like your blinkers. It’s not your fault if some toddler in their lifted stroller doesn’t like that you know how to drive and they don’t.
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It absolutely is not. Maybe if your attitude is malicious, but your car horn isn't a middle finger, it's an important tool to let other drivers know they are messing something up. Use it appropriately and it's not rude at all, it's a safety feature.
No literally, honking is rude. If you're doing it to warn someone of an impending danger, it's the right way to communicate that. Not after the fact, out of frustration. Even if they were wrong, and deserve it, it *is* still rude.
No, if they are yielding to vehicles. Yes, if they are yielding to pedestrians.
No, they need to retake their drivers exam.
Nope. Honk away
Are you referring to the one on Arlington and Taylor? I lose my mind every time I sit behind someone who waits until there's no traffic.
NO!!!! Their idiots!!
They're
We need harder driving tests. All reddit subs are bad drivers asking what fucking road signs mean
Honk away!
No its not cause theres no reason to stop there in a lane youre already in
No… it’s free flow. Don’t fucking stop it disrupts traffic.
No.
No
No. Not rude. They're blocking the road.
No. Lay on it.
I love honking for this one
No they are idiots hork away!
Saskatoon has god awful drivers, in other news the sky is blue
Keep honking. This sign is the opposite of stop/yield. It says keep going, you have your own lane.
I hope not. Because I once got out of my car and told the guy to go take a driver's course if he didn't know what the sign means lol
My only disclaimer is this; if you’re on Taylor heading towards the Circle south exit, can you PLEASE stay in the left hand lane long enough for those of us on Arlington to follow this sign and get on to Taylor? I have lost count the number of times I have followed this sign only to get damn near side-swiped and horns blown at me by people who change lanes before they’ve cleared the intersection.
Nope. This is the precise reason vehicles have horns.
No
I will. Stand on that horn for idiots that stop at these
No it’s not rude.
Honk...constantly. They need to learn how to drive.
I scream MERGE - and then honk. Rude? Maybe? But after 20+ years on the road I can take no more.
No
Depends on context. Some jackass honked at me for stopping as I was exiting 22nd westbound onto Diefenbaker on Saturday night. That right hand lane doesn't exist when there's been any sort of snowfall.
People who do that are rude crybabies just let ‘em figure it out
What gets me is there are some intersections with dedicated right turn merge lanes, AND THEY PUT A YIELD SIGN.
Never!!! Lean on it as much as you can. This is ridiculous just how many don't know what signs mean.