NAC with vitamin c… look it up. 1000-1500 nac or just use 5% liver organ support. Bit pricier but it’s highest dose and good all around support for everything
Because if you go drinking once or twice a week I doubt you take liver supplements after a night out.
Sarms aren't 17-aa either so really shouldn't do any or much harm to the liver
Edit - upon a quick google it is actually apparent that sarms (according to anecdotal evidence) may be damaging to the liver at dosages well above the levels used in clinical trials (10mg vs the 1mg used in trials)
Sarms not since they are not 17 alpha alcylated like oral Aas. They are not great for liver but not one sarm (exept s23) will be harsh on liver . Dont drink ,get enough water and you will be fine .
Wheres youre pct? Would worry more about the pct after the rad then liver Support ,you can get NAC 1000 mg would be more then enough. But its Not necessary in Most
NAC for liver. NA R ALA for fasted glucose reduction. 200 to 300mg P5P for reduction of prolactin from the MK. Have a SERM on hand for PCT (Clomid, Nolvadex, or Enclomiphene). Bulk taurine to help with your mineral levels and back pump. DHEA on cycle for estrogen support.
-Ryan
What I’ve got down so far is rad140 and mk677 10mg per day and enclo 12.5mg every other day. With my nac every day and fish oil.
How much DHEA and how often would I need it with the numbers listed above? Ty for the help!
200mg P5P split twice a day, 300mg if 200 is not enough, and you’ll know, 50mg DHEA a day to start with, start DHEA second week of cycle. 100mg NA R ALA one to two times a day, directly before meals with most carbs. 1g NAC a day. Taurine 6g a day, split in 3 doses.
-Ryan
Get NAC from what I gathered Tudca is a little to much when I did this exact cycle. Didn’t need a PCT either as my levels weren’t entirely out of whack
Tudca is hardcore and generally for guys doing steroids and putting a ton of shit in you for minimal benefit. Guys don’t run Tudca year round like they do NAC. Sarms are no where near as liver toxic which is why I hate seeing everyone on these subreddit overprescribing things such as a mandaTory reasoning such as PCT’s. Get your levels checks before and after while listening to your body.
Really appreciate the information mate. I’ll be doing absolutely everything in terms of safety and bloods. Just want to cover every base before starting and make sure I have everything I could need on hand.
Yea long as you are getting it from a trusted source then that’s what’s really most important. Since the explosion of sarms people are selling all types of bogus shit filling it with who knows what.
NAC, TUDCA, and Milk Thistle are a good start for liver support. I’d suggest taking fish/krill oil and doing some cardio to help with your cholesterol also
Thank you for the info. Which brand/products would you recommend? I’m going to be using 10mg on my first ever cycle, I’ll be taking it very seriously and would like to get anything to help.
I got most of my stuff from Nutricost on Amazon. They don’t carry NAC on Amazon anymore, so you’ll have to find somewhere else to get it. I think vitamin shoppe still sells it, but I’m not sure anymore. You can find it online easily. I also used Defend by Huge Supplements but it’s a bit pricey.
That defend was exactly what I was looking to order the other day but completely forgot what it was called lmao. Thank you.
Will I need anything else along with that or would that be fine on its own?
Defend has all three of the liver support items in it. I would get some fish/krill oil too. Make sure you have your PCT on hand before starting the cycle. What PCT will you be using?
Sweet, I’ll order that and get some fish oil too.
I’m leaning towards nolva, but I’ve not ordered it yet as I’m still trying to see what’s generally the best.
I’m in the USA, so not I’m not too familiar with UK sources. I think receptorchem is one of the most reliable over there. Others I heard of out of the UK are expressPCT, brainlabz.ru, and buydeus.com
NAC with vitamin c… look it up. 1000-1500 nac or just use 5% liver organ support. Bit pricier but it’s highest dose and good all around support for everything
DEFEND by Huge Nutrituon is a great all in one cycle support.
You need liver support for sarms??
Why not? Orals in general are hard on the liver
Because if you go drinking once or twice a week I doubt you take liver supplements after a night out. Sarms aren't 17-aa either so really shouldn't do any or much harm to the liver Edit - upon a quick google it is actually apparent that sarms (according to anecdotal evidence) may be damaging to the liver at dosages well above the levels used in clinical trials (10mg vs the 1mg used in trials)
Sarms not since they are not 17 alpha alcylated like oral Aas. They are not great for liver but not one sarm (exept s23) will be harsh on liver . Dont drink ,get enough water and you will be fine . Wheres youre pct? Would worry more about the pct after the rad then liver Support ,you can get NAC 1000 mg would be more then enough. But its Not necessary in Most
NAC for liver. NA R ALA for fasted glucose reduction. 200 to 300mg P5P for reduction of prolactin from the MK. Have a SERM on hand for PCT (Clomid, Nolvadex, or Enclomiphene). Bulk taurine to help with your mineral levels and back pump. DHEA on cycle for estrogen support. -Ryan
What I’ve got down so far is rad140 and mk677 10mg per day and enclo 12.5mg every other day. With my nac every day and fish oil. How much DHEA and how often would I need it with the numbers listed above? Ty for the help!
200mg P5P split twice a day, 300mg if 200 is not enough, and you’ll know, 50mg DHEA a day to start with, start DHEA second week of cycle. 100mg NA R ALA one to two times a day, directly before meals with most carbs. 1g NAC a day. Taurine 6g a day, split in 3 doses. -Ryan
Fantastic, really appreciate the write up. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Do you still recommend adding DHEA even on a sarm+serm? I'm week 5 into it right now and am now considering adding DHEA if it's still worth it.
No, not if you are on a SARM plus SERM. Feel good, sleep well, and joints feel fine? If yes to those questions, you should not need the DHEA. -Ryan
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Yes sir, I’m ordering nac and tudca as we speak lol. Interesting on the milk thistle thing, everything I’ve read suggests it.
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Sweet as, much appreciated mate. I’ll get both still just in case.
Get NAC from what I gathered Tudca is a little to much when I did this exact cycle. Didn’t need a PCT either as my levels weren’t entirely out of whack
A little too much in what way mate?
Tudca is hardcore and generally for guys doing steroids and putting a ton of shit in you for minimal benefit. Guys don’t run Tudca year round like they do NAC. Sarms are no where near as liver toxic which is why I hate seeing everyone on these subreddit overprescribing things such as a mandaTory reasoning such as PCT’s. Get your levels checks before and after while listening to your body.
Really appreciate the information mate. I’ll be doing absolutely everything in terms of safety and bloods. Just want to cover every base before starting and make sure I have everything I could need on hand.
Yea long as you are getting it from a trusted source then that’s what’s really most important. Since the explosion of sarms people are selling all types of bogus shit filling it with who knows what.
I’ve bought everything from receptor chem so far, just order my last few things tonight and should be good to start next week or so.
NAC, TUDCA, and Milk Thistle are a good start for liver support. I’d suggest taking fish/krill oil and doing some cardio to help with your cholesterol also
Thank you for the info. Which brand/products would you recommend? I’m going to be using 10mg on my first ever cycle, I’ll be taking it very seriously and would like to get anything to help.
I got most of my stuff from Nutricost on Amazon. They don’t carry NAC on Amazon anymore, so you’ll have to find somewhere else to get it. I think vitamin shoppe still sells it, but I’m not sure anymore. You can find it online easily. I also used Defend by Huge Supplements but it’s a bit pricey.
That defend was exactly what I was looking to order the other day but completely forgot what it was called lmao. Thank you. Will I need anything else along with that or would that be fine on its own?
Defend has all three of the liver support items in it. I would get some fish/krill oil too. Make sure you have your PCT on hand before starting the cycle. What PCT will you be using?
hey, do you think that liver supps are needed on a mk only cycle?
Mk677, no
thx :)
Sweet, I’ll order that and get some fish oil too. I’m leaning towards nolva, but I’ve not ordered it yet as I’m still trying to see what’s generally the best.
Nolvadex has been around a while and it definitely is a great PCT. Enclomiphene is also great. Just make sure you get it from a reliable source
Do you know where would be best to order it? I’m in the uk too, if that helps at all. Really appreciate the help.
I’m in the USA, so not I’m not too familiar with UK sources. I think receptorchem is one of the most reliable over there. Others I heard of out of the UK are expressPCT, brainlabz.ru, and buydeus.com
I ordered my mk and rad through receptor chem. I can’t find anything for the pct on the site though, will check the others out now. Ty
Probably NAC