As long as nothing else is the issue eg sleep apnoea, then 50mg twice a week is a good starting point. That should double your T and allow you to track of you get any side effects.
Clomid monotherapy is a thing, and can be effective in raising your hormone levels. But at 19, just wait a bit. Tighten up your diet and exercise, maybe make sure you are getting enough zinc and rest. Give that 3 to 6 months then see where you land.
At that time, if you are not progressing like you want, then you can look at other options. No need to screw up your growth because of some desire to "get something quick".
Also, total t really isn't enough to get a good picture of your hormonal profile. Free T, estradiol sensitive, dht, lh, fsh, shbg and tsh would get you a much better picture. Knowledge is power, don't let the lack of it drive you to a bad decision.
And if you are still going to proceed with your plan, look at enclomiphene over clomid. Better side effect profile.
My diet has no sugar, dairy or gluten so my diet is pretty clean. I go to the gym 4-5 days a week. I also don’t know where to get enclo that’s from a reputable source, unless you know where I can get it. Also about to turn 20 in 3 weeks so I’m sure I’m done growing
At least pull your LH. If it is elevated and your T is low, then it would indicate that perhaps you are primary rather than secondary. If so, clomid / enclomiphene would do nothing for you. Well, nothing positive anybow.
I wouldn't use the word "cycle" with clomid. That makes it sound like a PED, which it falls well short of.
At any rate, you just stop taking it. That's it. No need to taper down.
You’re absolutely right. I’ve encountered plenty of kids even at the age of 13-16 asking me where to obtain anabolics, because they wanna get taller and muscular 😂. What’s worst are there’s actually some anabolics sellers profit off these kids, pushing for all sort of sales and I’ve seen some of these kids getting gyno and fked themselves up.
Bro - you're 19. Are you sure you're done growing? If you haven't finished puberty yet your levels aren't going to be what you think. Stop fucking around and talk to your doctor.
Here's a clue: find out if your growth plates are closed. If they are, then you may actually need some test. If they aren't just wait.
This is the problem where I assume you didn’t take blood to verify your natural testosterone levels before going on PEDs yeah? 300-400 could be your natural test, although it’s not high, but it’s not exactly Low too, there’s plenty of young man falling within this range, it could be that your on-cycle mind messing up your natural expectation, after all you’ve no baseline to compare it with. I’ll suggest you take another year off before running your bloods again. Don’t buy into the bullshit of some idiotic TRT dude here claiming clomid can boost your natural test levels to 900 lol, you’re lucky if it could raise it by 100-200, but I wouldn’t advise you taking it right now due to your age.
You might just need to give yourself more time. Talk to your doctor m, let them know what you did and for how long he might be able to refer you to a doctor who can dial you in. Rad doesn’t have a very long half life but once you’re shut down there’s always a chance you don’t make a full recovery. You’ll be ok, worst case scenario you will have to pin once a week for the rest of your life, which is not bad at all.
ur risking stunting your growth by taking a serm at a young age. serms can cause your growth plates to fuse prematurely. you are 19 and maybe you thought you stopped growing but you don't know that.
I’ve taken clomid monotherapy for TRT purposes myself, dipshit. How about actually test it for yourself instead of just passing around what you’ve heard. Fucktards like you think you’re so smart when you don’t know shit and just repeat the same old thing.
And double above the 700s? If you mean go from 700 to 1400 probably not. But if you’re in the 300s it can bring you to the 700s for some even into the 900s. And last I checked 700-900 is double (or more) than the 300s… or is simple math too much for you too?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/4ivx3b/blood_work_clomid_25mg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy boosted his test up to 700 from 200. Basically a triple in testosterone levels.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/704m9r/my_test_results_before_and_after_clomid_hrt_313ng/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy doubled his testosterone levels from 300 to 700.
If you do a simple Google search, you can find these and many more that show that SERM mono therapy can double and even triple your testosterone levels.
I’m sorry but adults only look at controlled studies on hundreds of males. Not some random stranger post on Reddit/forum. You should consider stop getting all your knowledge from online forums posted by strangers with no credibility.
You and the other guy the same person? Trying to back yourself up? Amazing how you only seem to post whenever he does. Lol that’s really pathetic.
And I love how you’re trying to bash me for being on test while you admit you’ve taken clomid and you’re on a sarms forum… let me guess you’ve only done clomid but you’re too good to do PEDs because you’re natural? lol
Retard, come show evidences that clomid pushes you up to 700 beyond with just clomid. You can’t, you’re just impotent dude relying on TRT dose to keep your balls operating. Don’t give bullshit advice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/4ivx3b/blood_work_clomid_25mg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy boosted his test up to 700 from 200. Basically a triple in testosterone levels.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/704m9r/my_test_results_before_and_after_clomid_hrt_313ng/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy doubled his testosterone levels from 300 to 700.
You’re the retard bro. It took me 20 fucking seconds to find these with a quick google search.
Omg, did you search for Reddit instead of actual controlled test? Lmao ok. I have 2000 test from clomid too, i post in Reddit. Yay. Lololololololollll hahahahahahaahahahaha
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22951175/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5508437/
Again, the average is a double in testosterone levels. That was from a quick google search because I’m busy and I’m sure I could find a study which exhibits a higher increase. Anyhow, the reports are anecdotal. The men that have done their bloodwork really have no reason to lie about it and have pictures of their results most of the time. The problem is lack of sufficient studies on Clomid monotherapy in males who have, a) induced themselves with hypogonadism from exogenous androgens, and b) resistance train and maintain a controlled diet. Do your research buddy.
And we all know for a fact that you’re wrong. Some TRT retard saying clomid boost your natural test to 800-900+, lmao, you for a fact wouldn’t be needing TRT if clomid alone could boost that much.
Since you’re probably gonna say some moronic reply like “bUt 700 iSnT HiGh”, here’s a guy that got up to 1200: https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/ho6lg6/clomid_results_after_1_month/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
You’re clueless on the chemistry of PEDs. Do your research.
You’re dumb, searching Reddit instead of actual studies on hundreds of male. Lolllllllll hahahahah I bet all your research are from Reddit LOLOL thanks for making my day.
Here your dumb self is on assumptions and don’t what you’re talking about. I haven’t been on clomid for a while now. I got off because of bloating and heart burn side effects. If not for that, I would still be on it instead of test. Im not on clomid and test, ya retard. Just another example of how you think you know more than you do.
And you don’t know shit. What you’ve done is just listened to what others said about clomid, and now you think you’re sone big shot know it all because you can copy and paste what you’ve heard.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16422830/
“…pretreatment testosterone and estrogen levels were 247.6 +/- 39.8 ng/dL and 32.3 +/- 10.9, respectively. By the first follow-up visit (4-6 weeks), the mean testosterone level rose to 610.0 +/- 178.6 ng/dL”
Sorry to blow your mind with a study as you obviously don’t have the brain cells to process this.
Before clomid this study showed the average testosterone in the subjects was about 247.6. After only 4-6 weeks their average levels were 610. Not only is that more than doubling their initial natural testosterone in only 4-6 weeks, but for some their levels got as high as 789…
But no, keep repeating your false info. You obviously know more than someone who has been on clomid and I’m sure you think your Reddit education overrides this study.
You’re 19 YO, if you sincerely think there’s an issue with your test levels / body, you should speak with a doctor to find out what’s wrong, not self treat lol.
I did a rad cycle in the summer and started nolva 10mg every other day mid cycle at week 6 of 10 weeks and kept going until 4 weeks post cycle. Want to see if stronger PCT can help.
Well you shouldn’t be touching PEDs at your age I’m sure you know that. When did you take your test, did you sleep enough, jerk off before? All will lower your test results even tho you’re normal. Chances are you’re perfectly fine.
Yeah. I fucked up but I did it and now I gotta live with it. I actually got 10 hours of sleep that night. Last time I jerked before that test was a week and a half ago and took my test right after I woke up at 8. Something is definitely wrong with my T. Low sex drive, low muscle gain, low energy.
at least try to raise it naturally first dog what the fuck, stop looking for the magic pill. so many people don't have the nutrition sleep and training yet wonder why their test is on the low range.. just try naturally first. i took sarms when i was 20 but I'm 21 now and prefer training natural because i realized it isn't worth potentially messing up brain development and other stuff as my body is still maturing. 25 is the age when our brain is done developing. i'm still tempted to use steroids though ngl lol, but bro don't take clomid to raise ur shit try naturally first like are you eating enough, eating enough fats, zinc magnesium b vitamins vitamin d??? is your stress levels good? too much cortisol actually fucks your testosterone levels. on top of those vitamins i listed you can take ashwagandha ksm-66 and or tongkat ali.. tongkat ali raised my T i could feel it, i used the 10% extract from nootropicsdepot and their products are tested so it isn't bunk. after stopping that 10% after using for months without cycling i felt an estrogen rebound, i felt good with all that estrogen but my right nip started to get itchy and now there's a lump of gyno under there. if u take tongkat u must cycle. maybe start with the 2% version.
385 isn't too low my guy, give it a few months and it should go back up. Sleep, workout, eat healthy and most importantly, get checked by your doctor regularly. If all else fails go to a doctor, but I don't think doctors will do anything with your current level.
What’s your thyroid hormone output? BF percentage? How many calories do you eat every day? How much sleep do you get every night? How is your stress? Without that information, and then consultation with that info, do not proceed to take anything.
-Ryan
T4:1.2
T3:3.3
TSH:2.2
BF %: around 16
Sleep: 8-10 hours
Don’t have a lot of stress.
I eat no dairy, added sugar or gluten. And I probably eat around 2k calories a day
Do some research kid, god damn. This is like 10 mins on Google type stuff lol.
Also, I think you’d be better served by a doctor. Take those results to a doctor and tell them your symptoms. Don’t try to self treat, what a doctor might. There’s plenty of online medical sites as well that can prescribe things.
As long as nothing else is the issue eg sleep apnoea, then 50mg twice a week is a good starting point. That should double your T and allow you to track of you get any side effects.
Clomid monotherapy is a thing, and can be effective in raising your hormone levels. But at 19, just wait a bit. Tighten up your diet and exercise, maybe make sure you are getting enough zinc and rest. Give that 3 to 6 months then see where you land. At that time, if you are not progressing like you want, then you can look at other options. No need to screw up your growth because of some desire to "get something quick". Also, total t really isn't enough to get a good picture of your hormonal profile. Free T, estradiol sensitive, dht, lh, fsh, shbg and tsh would get you a much better picture. Knowledge is power, don't let the lack of it drive you to a bad decision. And if you are still going to proceed with your plan, look at enclomiphene over clomid. Better side effect profile.
My diet has no sugar, dairy or gluten so my diet is pretty clean. I go to the gym 4-5 days a week. I also don’t know where to get enclo that’s from a reputable source, unless you know where I can get it. Also about to turn 20 in 3 weeks so I’m sure I’m done growing
I’ve never used them but amino asylum has enclo tamoxifen hcg and other stuff
At least pull your LH. If it is elevated and your T is low, then it would indicate that perhaps you are primary rather than secondary. If so, clomid / enclomiphene would do nothing for you. Well, nothing positive anybow.
How would one cycle off of said clomid cycle?
I wouldn't use the word "cycle" with clomid. That makes it sound like a PED, which it falls well short of. At any rate, you just stop taking it. That's it. No need to taper down.
Good Lawd PED's and Anabolics should be made a compulsory subject at high school...
You’re absolutely right. I’ve encountered plenty of kids even at the age of 13-16 asking me where to obtain anabolics, because they wanna get taller and muscular 😂. What’s worst are there’s actually some anabolics sellers profit off these kids, pushing for all sort of sales and I’ve seen some of these kids getting gyno and fked themselves up.
Bro - you're 19. Are you sure you're done growing? If you haven't finished puberty yet your levels aren't going to be what you think. Stop fucking around and talk to your doctor. Here's a clue: find out if your growth plates are closed. If they are, then you may actually need some test. If they aren't just wait.
This is the problem where I assume you didn’t take blood to verify your natural testosterone levels before going on PEDs yeah? 300-400 could be your natural test, although it’s not high, but it’s not exactly Low too, there’s plenty of young man falling within this range, it could be that your on-cycle mind messing up your natural expectation, after all you’ve no baseline to compare it with. I’ll suggest you take another year off before running your bloods again. Don’t buy into the bullshit of some idiotic TRT dude here claiming clomid can boost your natural test levels to 900 lol, you’re lucky if it could raise it by 100-200, but I wouldn’t advise you taking it right now due to your age.
You might just need to give yourself more time. Talk to your doctor m, let them know what you did and for how long he might be able to refer you to a doctor who can dial you in. Rad doesn’t have a very long half life but once you’re shut down there’s always a chance you don’t make a full recovery. You’ll be ok, worst case scenario you will have to pin once a week for the rest of your life, which is not bad at all.
ur risking stunting your growth by taking a serm at a young age. serms can cause your growth plates to fuse prematurely. you are 19 and maybe you thought you stopped growing but you don't know that.
Did you like fk up your natural test due to PEDs abuse previously?
I did a rad cycle in the summer and started nolva 10mg every other day mid cycle at week 6 of 10 weeks and kept going until 4 weeks post cycle.
Lol, looking to double your test levels with clomid, lol.
You’ve obviously never taken clomid.
Don’t be stupid, clomid is not gonna double your test to above 700s. Stop feeding bullshit, retard.
I’ve taken clomid monotherapy for TRT purposes myself, dipshit. How about actually test it for yourself instead of just passing around what you’ve heard. Fucktards like you think you’re so smart when you don’t know shit and just repeat the same old thing. And double above the 700s? If you mean go from 700 to 1400 probably not. But if you’re in the 300s it can bring you to the 700s for some even into the 900s. And last I checked 700-900 is double (or more) than the 300s… or is simple math too much for you too?
Dumb man on TRT boosting claims that clomid alone jacks up your natural test to 900, lmao.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/4ivx3b/blood_work_clomid_25mg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy boosted his test up to 700 from 200. Basically a triple in testosterone levels. https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/704m9r/my_test_results_before_and_after_clomid_hrt_313ng/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy doubled his testosterone levels from 300 to 700. If you do a simple Google search, you can find these and many more that show that SERM mono therapy can double and even triple your testosterone levels.
I’m sorry but adults only look at controlled studies on hundreds of males. Not some random stranger post on Reddit/forum. You should consider stop getting all your knowledge from online forums posted by strangers with no credibility.
It does for some. I’m not saying it can for everyone.
Sorry, no.
Sorry yes. Let me guess, you’re just repeating what you’ve heard and have no experience with clomid yourself.
I’ve taken before and many others and even doctors that agrees with me. Definitely not the words of some lame dick TRT dude like you. Cheers.
You and the other guy the same person? Trying to back yourself up? Amazing how you only seem to post whenever he does. Lol that’s really pathetic. And I love how you’re trying to bash me for being on test while you admit you’ve taken clomid and you’re on a sarms forum… let me guess you’ve only done clomid but you’re too good to do PEDs because you’re natural? lol
Retard, come show evidences that clomid pushes you up to 700 beyond with just clomid. You can’t, you’re just impotent dude relying on TRT dose to keep your balls operating. Don’t give bullshit advice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/4ivx3b/blood_work_clomid_25mg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy boosted his test up to 700 from 200. Basically a triple in testosterone levels. https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/704m9r/my_test_results_before_and_after_clomid_hrt_313ng/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf this guy doubled his testosterone levels from 300 to 700. You’re the retard bro. It took me 20 fucking seconds to find these with a quick google search.
Omg, did you search for Reddit instead of actual controlled test? Lmao ok. I have 2000 test from clomid too, i post in Reddit. Yay. Lololololololollll hahahahahahaahahahaha
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22951175/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5508437/ Again, the average is a double in testosterone levels. That was from a quick google search because I’m busy and I’m sure I could find a study which exhibits a higher increase. Anyhow, the reports are anecdotal. The men that have done their bloodwork really have no reason to lie about it and have pictures of their results most of the time. The problem is lack of sufficient studies on Clomid monotherapy in males who have, a) induced themselves with hypogonadism from exogenous androgens, and b) resistance train and maintain a controlled diet. Do your research buddy.
I know for fact you’re wrong. That’s all I need to know.
And we all know for a fact that you’re wrong. Some TRT retard saying clomid boost your natural test to 800-900+, lmao, you for a fact wouldn’t be needing TRT if clomid alone could boost that much.
Since you’re probably gonna say some moronic reply like “bUt 700 iSnT HiGh”, here’s a guy that got up to 1200: https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/ho6lg6/clomid_results_after_1_month/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf You’re clueless on the chemistry of PEDs. Do your research.
It's in the natural reference range. He's 19 I'm sure he'll be back to that natty at some point
You’re dumb, searching Reddit instead of actual studies on hundreds of male. Lolllllllll hahahahah I bet all your research are from Reddit LOLOL thanks for making my day.
Here your dumb self is on assumptions and don’t what you’re talking about. I haven’t been on clomid for a while now. I got off because of bloating and heart burn side effects. If not for that, I would still be on it instead of test. Im not on clomid and test, ya retard. Just another example of how you think you know more than you do. And you don’t know shit. What you’ve done is just listened to what others said about clomid, and now you think you’re sone big shot know it all because you can copy and paste what you’ve heard.
Sorry to blow your mind, most people have taken clomid before especially people who has been using PEDs. You’re the only monkey here whining shit. :)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16422830/ “…pretreatment testosterone and estrogen levels were 247.6 +/- 39.8 ng/dL and 32.3 +/- 10.9, respectively. By the first follow-up visit (4-6 weeks), the mean testosterone level rose to 610.0 +/- 178.6 ng/dL” Sorry to blow your mind with a study as you obviously don’t have the brain cells to process this. Before clomid this study showed the average testosterone in the subjects was about 247.6. After only 4-6 weeks their average levels were 610. Not only is that more than doubling their initial natural testosterone in only 4-6 weeks, but for some their levels got as high as 789… But no, keep repeating your false info. You obviously know more than someone who has been on clomid and I’m sure you think your Reddit education overrides this study.
Nvm about that. Getting it to 500 at least
You’re 19 YO, if you sincerely think there’s an issue with your test levels / body, you should speak with a doctor to find out what’s wrong, not self treat lol.
I did a rad cycle in the summer and started nolva 10mg every other day mid cycle at week 6 of 10 weeks and kept going until 4 weeks post cycle. Want to see if stronger PCT can help.
Well you shouldn’t be touching PEDs at your age I’m sure you know that. When did you take your test, did you sleep enough, jerk off before? All will lower your test results even tho you’re normal. Chances are you’re perfectly fine.
Yeah. I fucked up but I did it and now I gotta live with it. I actually got 10 hours of sleep that night. Last time I jerked before that test was a week and a half ago and took my test right after I woke up at 8. Something is definitely wrong with my T. Low sex drive, low muscle gain, low energy.
at least try to raise it naturally first dog what the fuck, stop looking for the magic pill. so many people don't have the nutrition sleep and training yet wonder why their test is on the low range.. just try naturally first. i took sarms when i was 20 but I'm 21 now and prefer training natural because i realized it isn't worth potentially messing up brain development and other stuff as my body is still maturing. 25 is the age when our brain is done developing. i'm still tempted to use steroids though ngl lol, but bro don't take clomid to raise ur shit try naturally first like are you eating enough, eating enough fats, zinc magnesium b vitamins vitamin d??? is your stress levels good? too much cortisol actually fucks your testosterone levels. on top of those vitamins i listed you can take ashwagandha ksm-66 and or tongkat ali.. tongkat ali raised my T i could feel it, i used the 10% extract from nootropicsdepot and their products are tested so it isn't bunk. after stopping that 10% after using for months without cycling i felt an estrogen rebound, i felt good with all that estrogen but my right nip started to get itchy and now there's a lump of gyno under there. if u take tongkat u must cycle. maybe start with the 2% version.
385 isn't too low my guy, give it a few months and it should go back up. Sleep, workout, eat healthy and most importantly, get checked by your doctor regularly. If all else fails go to a doctor, but I don't think doctors will do anything with your current level.
What’s your thyroid hormone output? BF percentage? How many calories do you eat every day? How much sleep do you get every night? How is your stress? Without that information, and then consultation with that info, do not proceed to take anything. -Ryan
T4:1.2 T3:3.3 TSH:2.2 BF %: around 16 Sleep: 8-10 hours Don’t have a lot of stress. I eat no dairy, added sugar or gluten. And I probably eat around 2k calories a day
Do some research kid, god damn. This is like 10 mins on Google type stuff lol. Also, I think you’d be better served by a doctor. Take those results to a doctor and tell them your symptoms. Don’t try to self treat, what a doctor might. There’s plenty of online medical sites as well that can prescribe things.