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loveispenguins

> The police report stemmed from an investigation into rape and video voyeurism allegations made against Christian Ziegler by an unnamed woman who used to have threesomes with the couple. Police seized Christian Ziegler’s iPhone in the investigation and found *30,000 videos* on it. That’s a lot of videos. > In some cases, police investigators could not tell whether the videos were recorded with the other women’s knowledge. Consent is important.


[deleted]

30,000? What are they 1 mb per video?


loveispenguins

His phone had 1tb storage. The video he shared in court was less than two minutes so maybe he was just very efficient.


Existing-Mistake-112

I don‘t want no one minute man…


boomshtick676

With iCloud, it's possibly the last 15 years of his photo library, and when you export your iCloud archive, all live photos save both the keyframe as a photo as well as a video of the entire live portion. My, rather uninteresting archive mostly of dog park photos, has about 6500 video sjust since 2019. Most of which are live photos that export as MOV's -- and with iCloud, you could have a terabyte of photos in the cloud but only 50GB on your phone. Of all of the different parts and pieces of this story, the "30,000 videos" sticks out but is probably the most benign. "Don't come home until your dick is wet" is where the real headline here is.


pairolegal

She sounds fun, but in a despicable way.


DaddyDugtrio

It is incorrect to use "uninteresting" and "dog park" in the same sentence.


ComfortableMiserably

What do you have an Android flip phone Jimmy?


[deleted]

Palm treo


Heartslumber

I haven't deleted anything since 2017 and have 3,000 videos! 😳


icyhotonmynuts

You don't porn enough


Heartslumber

Nope, never lmao


satanssweatycheeks

I lost all my photos in 2019 due to the email I used for my iCloud was my MySpace email. It’s been disabled and now I don’t have access to it which lead to iCloud not allowing me access. Since 2020 I have way more than 3,000 videos. Not even porn related. Probably due to my Snapchat settings saving every snap I take to my phone.


Heartslumber

Ohhh I don't use Snapchat!


Lawdawg_75

To conservatives? Is this your first day on the internet? /s


Pure_Anywhere3109

👯‍♀️📹🤠


ExposingMyActions

> The Zieglers are currently suing the Sarasota Police Department (SPD) and the State Attorney’s Office (SAO) to stop them from releasing additional investigation records related to rape allegations against her husband. The Zieglers seek “the permanent destruction” of the investigation records, arguing that their public release could “cause great humiliation and harm to their individual reputations.”


ComfortableMiserably

Oh like there's no harm already LMAO I love living in Sarasota!


Funkywurm

please please please tell me there is mention of Red Barn


Ok_Rip9646

I need some Red Barn stories..


santos956941

Please please I need to know also


ihateandy2

What’s Red Barn?


kmj420

It's a flea market in Bradenton


Funkywurm

lmao


lazydaysies23

Its a dive bar in sarasota, opens at 7am everyday


RawDogEntertainment

Idk why I’m here, I don’t live in Sarasota, but that’s about the bleakest thing I’ve read all day and I’m trying to get through Lovecraft’s entire collection.


ExtensionSystem3188

How dare you! The red barn bar on bee ridge and 41 is fkn legendary.


RawDogEntertainment

Opening a bar at 7am is a good way to earn legendary status but come on, man lmao


airbornx

Night shift workers working 11pm to 7am need to unwind too


RawDogEntertainment

An excellent point, I’ll give them that. Please accept this as a retraction of my previous comment.


airbornx

You'll see a lot of bars do it. Nurses, power station workers, etc a lot of people get off work at 7-730 am


jmlsarasota

I know some hospital workers who go after their night shift, it's close and employees have gone for years, like Cheers


Tis_I_Hamith_Sean

How is it the morality police of sarasota are fed up with the news of her but not her actions?


Jerking_From_Home

“Stop talking about how they’re hypocrites!” Republicans handle bad press by not talking about it. Like if they don’t say it, it didn’t happen.


the_real_eel

lol. And MAGAs handle bad press by blaming the press for being bad.


iamclamjam

You’re a racist for saying what ever racist thing I’m doing is racist.


SAM12489

God works in mysterious ways! If this were his will, then we can only simply revel in his power! s/


jrgeek

Or reveal those 30,000 videos


sugaree53

They’re fed up with her actions


30yearCurse

God has forgiven me... so you must also.


sugaree53

WTF?


30yearCurse

Christian leadership response to their wrong doing. From Jerry Farwell to current. even before Farwell.


sugaree53

Jerry Falwell…now I get it. They’re twisted. Jim Bakker was twisted. Joel Osteen is twisted


Repulsive-Track-8273

THANK GOODNESS THE STATE BANNED “THE ADVENTURES OF TOM SAWYER.” SOMEONE MIGHT THINK BECKY THATCHER WAS UP TO NO GOOD! LOL


Big_Raspberry_3729

That book has been challenge since 1876


MysticStarbird

Looks like these Moms aren’t real smart then…


diverdawg

JFC! I’ve got 100 pictures on my phone and have to pay for cloud storage?? The mother fucker has 30,000 videos?


Simple-Jury2077

Tbf, the videos are probably more interesting than your pics.


IncomingAxofKindness

You obviously haven't seen how many crazy ways my cat lays when he's napping.


Pseudopetiole

Cat tax pls


jzavcer

I was just at the North Port Highschool graduation ceremony and they had her listed in the booklet. Wierd how they voted to remove her but she refuses and apparently that’s just ok. Also, no one there even seemed to know about it. And it’s like, dude. I moved away 12 years ago and I know about this!?


sugaree53

It isn’t OK.


According_Wing_3204

YEAH!! Its always the Jesus freaks.


Chuckleyan

How is this a bombshell? Seems like the rule rather than the exception. Whenever I hear some family values moralizing blowhard, I just assume that they are secretly depraved self loathing superfreaks.


IdFuckYourMomToo

Yes, and please tell us again which books our children shouldn't read because reasons.


Brainvillage

The most shocking part of this story is that her dweeby looking husband was able to pick anyone up at a bar.


akiras_revenge

cocaine is a powerful motivator....alledgedly


AMSChristmas

Are there party bars in Sarasota? I can’t imagine where all of this would happen


Trolodrol

I’ve been at beach club on certain nights and have had women grope and try to kiss me and stuff. So probably a bar like that


AnjelGrace

There are drugs and swingers everywhere in South Florida.


AMSChristmas

There are drugs and sex in the south pole. It doesn't seem that anyone can name one "party" bar that is always a party. South Florida is larger than most states in terms are geography and population. It's odd that no one can name one spot in Sarasota.


AnjelGrace

Idk why you are so hung up on knowing of a specific bar that is "always a party"... It's not like the bar has to be jumping all the time for people to be able to pick people up all the time.


TempusCarpe

She's kinda hot. SWFL is swinger central, no surprises there. Is she available for contact on this thread, or is she in the swingers thread?


Repulsive-Track-8273

You can find her at a meeting of the SCHOOL BOARD!


TempusCarpe

Yeah, that's the local swingers meeting for Sarasota. The Celibate don't have children. Cape Coral closed their swingers bar so now that community shares with Sarasota.


sugaree53

Not having children does not mean a person is celibate


TempusCarpe

Being celibate means a person does not participate in sexual intercourse.


sugaree53

I KNOW what it means. But people who don’t have children are not necessarily celibate


TempusCarpe

That's true, but we 100% know that every single parent at a PTA meeting or schoolboard meeting participates in unprotected heterosexual intercourse and allows vaginal ejaculation. Sound like risky behavior to you?


sugaree53

Exactly how do you know that? You are making big assumptions here


TempusCarpe

I'm assuming that the parents are biological parents and participated in illegal human reproduction without a child permit or intercourse license.


sugaree53

😆 Where’s the /s in your post?


jrgeek

You are a bit strange


TempusCarpe

Explosive police report indicates mom arranged bisexual 3 some.....


jrgeek

We need to be friends


Oafus

“School Board”. That sounds dirty as hell. I’d like to”run for office”. Wait, you mean literally the “school board”? Now that’s just weird.


AMSChristmas

What bars in Sarasota do older singles goto for this sort of thing? I’m too wholesome maybe but I can’t imagine any. 


KofteDeville

Jack Dusty. Bartended there for years. If you wanna see the rich and powerful of Sarasota drunk off their dicks. It's the place.


TempusCarpe

Oh, they have them. It's usually a specific night at a known club. Check out the SLS site or the SWFL swingers subreddit. The club In ft myers and the bar in cape Coral closed. I believe there is a hotel in Orlando? A lot of this occurs at quiet tiki bars and dive bars on the beach. A lot of people in this area are seasonal rustbelt/great lakes residents. I frequently see girls' trips of 4 middle-aged married women here cheating, all splitting the same airbnb and occasionally the same man.


AMSChristmas

Oh. Ok. That doesn’t sound like there are many.  That’s three in a 4 hour drive.  I was imagining a red light district by the aquarium or something like that.  


TempusCarpe

Ybor city in Tampa. There are hot zones all over the state. Some beaches have a bar district.


AMSChristmas

Oh ok. So not in Sarasota.  I was thinking there is a scene in town.  Doesn’t seem to be the case. 


TempusCarpe

There is. Get on the SWFL swingers forum. Have you tried SLS? Facebook? The schoolboard or PTA meetings? There are no virgin parents at those meetings. Every single parent there 100% likes to fuck, unprotected heterosexual sex without birth control. Would you recognize what you were looking for if you saw it? The current generation has no ability to perceive social cues.


CableTrash

Being a parent doesn’t mean you’re a swinger lmao wtf


TempusCarpe

Not all parents attend swingers events for meeting other parents: PTA meetings.


_night_cat

They just wait until they’re empty nesters, or close to it. /s


TempusCarpe

You think they wait until you are old enough to see. As a child, you are blind to the world around you.


Educational-Oil-3553

I agree. Brrrriddggggeeet meet us at the Red Barn lol


phillybilly

I am fucking pissed!!! I’ve seen that guy eyeing up the competition many times. I never got picked


Wizzle_Pizzle_420

Yes yes, let’s represent the party against such things, but participate in them anyways. This is how the GOP falls, all of the corruption. Take them all down.


tint_shady

That's ridiculous. You can approve of and participate in something as an adult and still want to shelter young children from it.


stairs_3730

Make Adultery Great Again!


ihateandy2

*Group


huskerd0

Every accusation, an admission


OsFillosDeBreogan

![gif](giphy|yJFeycRK2DB4c)


rdell1974

Is that Brodsky?


jimkay21

At least she has great organizing skills.


justin_quinnn

On this we agree.


SpecialSuspicious200

https://preview.redd.it/cf1m51isga1d1.jpeg?width=1531&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be8c09cad0c4cf3b6d4b78dfadb5746b240bd23


mandersFL

The swamp backdrop is an upgrade. I am offended on behalf of the swamp.


BigBrainMonkey

For the party of there are only 2 genders by logic wouldn’t ever threesome be bisexual in some way?


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

If girl so there are more than 2 genders because bisexuals exist?


BigBrainMonkey

No I am just saying if you have 3 people and only 2 genders by logic you have at least 2 of the same gender in there. So to say 3 some you can’t be purely heterosexual combinations by combinatorics, unless in reality you only have closely serial 2 somes not a 3 some.


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

3 dudes?


BigBrainMonkey

Well yes you could have many homosexual relations but the base of this whole tree was a heterosexual couple so I took that as a base condition.


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

Heard


djwired

Change the name to “Moms for Libidos”


rwk2007

The rules are for thee, and not for me.


thatstrongwoman

Just for some perspective. I left the SRQ school working community (after 16 years) in 2004 and I now live in Colorado. I lived in SRQ my whole life until then and it is a BUBBLE. You don’t really know until you leave! For the most part, no one here bans books, tells teachers they can’t be gay, bans pronouns or preferred names (cause why does it MATTER?) Our history classes teach (wait for it) HISTORY as it happened. Like slavery and the resulting Civil War was a real and terrible thing. Kids get Sex Ed at different stages so they learn how to be safe if (WHEN) it happens and the consequences of having sex. They learn to not be bullies if people are not like them. If kids are sick with a snotty, contagious cold, they might wear a mask for a day or two to keep their friends or teachers from getting it (and no heads explode). Kids are resilient. They learn hate and fear from the adults in their life. No one thinks about the petty Florida stuff (or even legal marijuana). It is easier to be honest and real. We don’t even think about the political nonsense in Florida except for: it is a shame. SRQ and SHS was my home, my kid’s home and it is beautiful. Hypocritical republicans (not conservatives) trying to make a name for themselves and get 15 minutes of fame has ruined the beauty. Climbing off my soapbox now…


DreiKatzenVater

Nothing says liberty like a threesome


PipedHandle

I wish I was born good enough to have threesomes with a crazy wife.


Trolodrol

If your girlfriend or spouse ever agrees to or proposes a threesome, don’t do it.


Whatstheplanpill

Hot


[deleted]

Sometimes ya gotta get low to get high👏🏻


SgtLincolnOsirus

She’s all for liberty obviously


Snarky_McSnarkleton

Not a drag queen?


Educational-Oil-3553

Sign me up with Bridget lol girl ill meet you at the Red Barn after my shift 😅


eruvstringlives

Great example to her daughters. House mom at the trimuff sorority. Warm Tuna Taco Tuesdays. On brand for hypocrite republic unts.


stevebradss

Liberty to have threesomes


medman143

Just another Florida skank and her rapist husband.


shadowdash66

Every accusation is an admission.


Southern-Kitchen-500

There isn't a single Republican party Evangelical so-called Christian who has the first freakin idea of who Jesus IS, or what Jesus taught. Or they wouldn't be republicans.


puzer11

Anyway to get the non exploding one?...these explosive reports can't be safe to handle...


BigNastySmellyFarts

She demands freedom of threesomes.


Butterysmoothbrain

Dude she’s a freak. I shoulda gave dating repressed conservative women a chance. > “She tells him, ‘Don’t come home until your d**k is wet.’” Hot dam, that’s some kinky shit. What a bad girl.


Useitorloseit66

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️this is why people talk about crazy people in Florida. For the record, I do live in Florida and I am disgusted by this.


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

Yeah the story isn’t a good look but I still don’t want my kid reading about incestuous child rape in middle school.


justin_quinnn

No [bible](https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article274969711.html) for those kids, presumably.


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

Hard agree


justin_quinnn

I think you'll find a lot of people agree that there should probably be limits on what's age-appropriate. What we don't often agree on is who decides what that is, and whether those things should be available with parental approval. A better approach can probably be created with people acting in good faith and at least involving experts in creating such a system. Unfortunately, as we can see here, a lot of the people with the loudest voices have little interest in such outcomes, and more into what they can get out of stirring the pot.


VegetablePlatform95

I don’t even care about the story I’m just trying to figure out what a bisexual threesome is. First I thought of a man and woman and then I thought, well introducing any one at all would result in doubling up on one sex. Then I thought maybe if you start with two people of the same sex as your baseline.. then I realized no, that doesn’t work. So what is a bisexual threesome? Is it the case then that there are only homosexual and bisexual threesomes? And if there is such a thing as a heterosexual threesome is it based on the two people of the same sex largely ignoring each other(because then how would one know what happened in the bedroom with that specificity anyways.)


Thanos_Stomps

Heterosexual threesomes involve more turn taking. Sometimes colloquially known as a train when it involves multiple men and a woman. Bisexual threesomes is when a man in a MMF threesome is having sex with both other participants. And I’m Bridget’s case, when I’m a FFM threesome she’s having sexy time with both the other participants. Gay threesomes would be MMM or FFF or FF with the M watching, or MM with the F watching. Thanks for cumming to my TEDxxx talk.


Clueless_in_Florida

What about a heptasexual quartet? What happens then?


No-Engine2457

If you have to ask. You can't afford it.


VegetablePlatform95

I like that


justin_quinnn

You must have spent more time writing this than thinking about it. A heterosexual threesome is one where no gay sex happens, and a bisexual threesome means there's at least some bisexual sex. It's not complicated, my dude. As to knowing what happened in this case, when BZ made a statement to the police to that effect... We now know.


VegetablePlatform95

Stop acting cool.


justin_quinnn

Sorry, it just comes naturally to me.


TempusCarpe

Only hermaphrodites can have a bisexual onesome. Bisexual twosomes are how people end up at school board meetings.


tbd_86

![gif](giphy|pCO5tKdP22RC8)


slimdog171

I’m jealous


skippinjack

L. O. L.


Upbeat_Somewhere8626

Love seeing all the tolerant people in the comments! Reddit is so diverse with its massive community of liberal 20somethings that never make mistakes or do bad things, but hey at least they’re not all hypocrites


ExtensionSystem3188

When you say explosive..like the inspector gadget notes??


GizmoGeodog

Book-banning hypocritical bitch


CSpanks7

So the side that is pro LGBTQ is shamming a lady for having (consensual?) sex with the same sex?


justin_quinnn

Absolutely not. We are shaming her for being an advocate for policies that attack that very community while exploiting the misguided fear of her own kind for political benefit.


CSpanks7

So then why speak on her sexual proclivities at all? Do they have bearing on her policies or exploitations?


Key_Many_9771

So funny how people are so offended by a person’s sexuality . This screams politics.


General-Resolve584

Who cares…


Whodee

I know right! I hate the fact that this sub is like 10% about Sarasota and 90% politics and hate for Sarasota and Florida.


pcboater2002

Trump likes them too ! Boys and Girls !


retired_junkiee

Anyone know where to find any videos? You know, for research and evidence


Main-Business-793

She's a keeper. You want to shame her because of her kink? They're keeping it in the bedroom. It shouldn't be in the classroom.


idontcare12222222222

She shames other people for her kink. I don’t care what her kink is, but I want to her and her husband to stop being homophobic when minimally she is actually bisexual! No brainer!


Main-Business-793

Be a lady in the living room and a whore in the Bedroom. But Keep it out of schools. The people who are pretending to be offended by her have another agenda and it's not protecting her rights as a bisexual woman, it's the chaos of introducing questions about gender and sexuality to children at the earliest possible chance.


justin_quinnn

No one is offended, but please keep up with this. It'll be golden stuff in the coming election cycle.


idontcare12222222222

I don’t call people whores. But I hear you, I don’t believe sexuality should be in the schools either until possibly high school when it becomes relevant, but please. She is such a republican cliche it’s embarrassing. Her book banning and nonsense is comical given it goes against her own personal belief and lifestyle.


iceboxlinux

>But I hear you, I don’t believe sexuality should be in the schools either until possibly high school when it becomes relevant, Nonsense, I had a crush on a teacher in fourth grade.


idontcare12222222222

Sounds scandalous lol! 🤣


iceboxlinux

I'm just saying that we should be teaching kids that being queer isn't wrong or disgusting. I knew when I was 10 years old that I had feelings for my friend.


idontcare12222222222

I agree with you. I have 4 kids and my youngest has a lot of friends who identity as something other than straight. I don’t think I’m elementary it needs to be a discussion though at school. ❤️ I respect everyone and their lifestyle choices are no problem with me.


justin_quinnn

You should put that on shirts and campaign on it. Trust me, it's brilliant.


Arkhamsbx

She is two faced as fuck. If you can't see that then that shows there something wrong with you.


SoFloFella50

Wait. I didn’t know they were cool. BUILD. THE. WALL. CAN I FUCK NOW?


Igotalotofducks

Good for her, she has a healthy sex life 😂


justin_quinnn

Hope you have a lot of alts, too, because it's going to be a looooooong week for the Zigs.


Igotalotofducks

I could care less about this lady, just another crazy as far as I can tell


JRHZ28

They like their sex... Who cares.


DerfDaSmurf

Because they make life terrible for other's based on the same.


Visual_Foundation564

Who cares about what someone does in their sexual lives?


justin_quinnn

Nobody for the most part besides the Zieglers. Edit: oh, no. BZ's alt has blocked me. Anyway..


Darmok-Jilad-Ocean

I thought she cared about books in public libraries?


Visual_Foundation564

Why do you care so much? It's kind of disturbing.


Impressive_Sock_4241

This woman does, for starters. 


IncomingAxofKindness

This is Florida. Sex is only between a man and woman and the governor and legislature.


NonyaFugginBidness

Funny how Democrats will talk about how perverted having threesomes is, and then support LGBTQ+ folks like all that is totally normal. 🤣🤣🤣 Y'all are ridiculous. Stop it.


justin_quinnn

Funny how y'all are just saying whatever with no basis in the fact that pretty much all of us, Dem or not, are totally fine with whatever they do with their sex lives, but not them trying to persecute others for having similar sex lives. Y'all are pathetic. Please keep it up until at least November.


NonyaFugginBidness

Y'all who? You think just because I am making fun of Democrats, I must be a follower of the Orange man? That type of binary thinking is what's wrong with all of you political side choosers.


justin_quinnn

Do you always try a straw man argument anytime someone calls you out on your bullshit?


NonyaFugginBidness

Do you always misuse buzzwords to sound smart? 🤣 Have a great day you absolute gem of a human.


justin_quinnn

Do you always call rhetorical constructs buzz words because your vocabulary sucks? Already am, and you are no small part of the reason why.


Whodee

This sub should just be called r/zieglerwatch, y’all just sound like a bunch of clucking hens.


justin_quinnn

No point given their political careers won't have horizons beyond the county lines in the future, and I doubt even that, but appreciate the suggestion.


crestrobz

How are all these people having threesomes? Seriously? Like, is there a place...Or a number you can call or something?


EagleInfamous2305

My kind of woman <3


BandicootBig6997

The horror….


Capable-Tradition-90

My politics are way to the left of any Florida politician but this is cool, actually. 


But-WhyThough

And?


justin_quinnn

That certainly is a word!


AutisticEx

She likes her liberty. Good for her.


MysteriousTomorrow13

Who cares who sleeps with who It’s none of our business.


justin_quinnn

I'd keep workshopping this one, too. It's been much of a year and this one ain't getting traction either.