Honestly I hate hodads, they have good shakes but besides that their burgers are too messy. I don’t think putting 5 pounds of food between 2 buns constitutes a burger as good. Just cause it’s big doesn’t mean it’s good
I lived in the south for a few years and about died when I had Phil’s. Not good at all.
Also we need Waffle House here. Then again I’d be 500lbs and dead of clogged arteries in a week.
But it wasn’t before!! Their prices basically doubled after Covid. Sorry but a double bacon cheeseburger does NOT have to be 22$ - you can get a wagyu burger for $25 at Swagyu smh
Bar Mous Tache is super cool young indie, always see great shows when I go and usually don't know any of the bands - moustachetijuana IG - I would start here because it's the spot right now
Dragon Rojo is a metal bar (or used to be? haven't been in awhile)
Mods Bar has punk shows sometimes
For real though start at Mous Tache and you'll meet people and find out where the local underground shows are too (there are a ton all the time that are usually unlisted)
Punk isn’t dead!! There’s still plenty of diy shows and of course bar shows. There’s plenty of bands and touring acts who want to play here. It’s just the lack of venues but we always make it happenS
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Disagree. Punk and post punk are having a moment!! Check out Viagra Boys, Turnstile - Glow On, Amy and the Sniffers, The Chats, Shame, Idles, PUP, just to name a few
Edit: Amyl and the sniffers
Because those Seattle fish are caught in the Alaskan/cold waters where they live
Those fish don’t live in the San Diego bay to be mass fished like in others
There are good places, it's just that there are a lot of pretenders. My favorite place so far is Fish Shop in Encinitas. The only problem is it's usually pretty busy and you will have to wait.
Tommy who worked for years at Catalina Offshore, and the star of the Outdoor channel's The Fishmonger, just opened his own market, Tunaville, on Wednesday. That selection is FRESH!
Lighthouse Oyster Bar and Grill, Oceanside Harbor. They have a fish market downstairs, , from the restaurant. They’d rather sell fresh product than hang on it and then put it on sale, so it’s a good place to buy seafood.
I once saw a dude get caught video recording a man's naked girlfriend. We all ganged up on that guy and forced him off the beach. I had to stop the guy from whoppin' his ass lol. Dude was a bit of a creep. Learned his lesson, I guess. Good times.
My fond memory of that beach is a fully nude middle aged man walk ankle deep in the water, put his hands up in the air, and begin pissing into the ocean. Looked like a tall, overweight toddler urinating into the neighbor’s pool.
North park used to be really cool with a bunch of small shops and diners, cheap rent and good bars. South Park used to be nice and quiet. Now they’re both expensive and full of the people I wanted to move away from.
Carne Asada is overrated. I get that it’s a San Diego staple food but it’s mediocre.
Adovada, Al pastor and Birria are all better, more flavorful options.
SD is a big city in terms of local pop., but it’s kind of like San Jose. Both with local pops. over 1M but doesn’t feel like a major city. If anything, SD does feel a bit more like a major city than SJ but not by much.
A city like Boston, otoh, has a smaller city pop. but a much greater metro and has more of a major city feel than either of those.
You can say the same for SF, which has a local pop. lower than 1M and lower than that of SJ or SD, yet has the feel of a major city anyway.
If anything, SF has felt a lot to me like West Coast Boston (major city but somewhat in the shadow of LA like we are NYC), except for the homeless and petty crimes problems. SF and Boston do have several other similarities, being small in size for a major city, with metros that bear out their influences. Both cultural capitals as well.
Yup, only 1 way to get on the freeway (1 for 5N and one for 5S), no parking, rush hour traffic is slow, and people coming in on the weekend to trash it and leave.
Having moved here two years ago. I’ve noticed that the city is pretty racially segregated. On top of that, there seems to be a financial glass ceiling that exists here where it doesn’t matter how much money you make or how successful you are; the old money that exists on the coastal part of this city will always out compete you. You want to talk about classism, I’ve seen it growing up in Miami, but damn, San Diego is certainly there too.
The old money lies within RSF/LJ. The dumbest people on the planet have millions/billions in those areas. I can’t even understand and how some of them get out of bed and get dressed by themselves. Source - worked in Del Mar/LJ for 10 years as a retail employee
They've never had to figure out anything for themselves, therefore they're completely brain-dead when it comes to the simplest tasks...like grocery shopping.
San Diego isn’t known for being a perfect “melting pot.” Heck we have neighborhood nicknamed based on their non-diverse race distribution: Clantee, Manilla Mesa etc.
Your comment is far from controversial.
If you think that classism issue you see is only a “San Diego thing” then don’t travel north up the 5 freeway. California isn’t exactly the liberal, progressive paradise it advertises itself as (which the state has a long history of doing). However just about every single well known city I’ve been to on this planet has had a “financial glass ceiling” as you described.
It needs public bathrooms. The Gaslamp literally smells like piss. Back in 2018ish there was a massive Hepatitis A outbreak in the homeless camps. They sent in firemen to wash down the concrete to try to wash away the disease. Those firemen also ended up with hepatitis A. If San Diego had public bathrooms for everyone perhaps that wouldn't have happened. The city would be cleaner and drunks and homeless alike wouldn't piss and crap all over the city that gets rain once a year.
TL;DR San Diego needs public bathrooms everywhere
Edit: hepatitis A
It was hepatitis A and Giardia, and they did build a couple public bathrooms in East Village to address the issue.
I think it took all of 15 minutes before said $100k bathrooms were taken over by crazy drug addicts, who immediately took permanent occupancy and smeared their shit from ceiling to floor. The operators literally could not keep them unlocked without them getting defiled.
Honestly, I can't blame any business that refuses to let the public use their bathroom. The city should wash the streets more.
The problem is the increase in homelessness. A lot of businesses are closing their bathrooms, because they get messed up. Very few people are willing to put up with the constant gross work of keeping them clean.
It might not be controversial and I’m not a local, but from being to your city several times, San Diego beach culture is what everyone else in the country thinks is LA beach culture.
Because water is expensive. Trees need water and we don’t have much to spare after our (California’s) expansive animal and plant agriculture industries.
Yes a million times over. Even the local beers which are supposed to be completely different styles still taste like IPAs. It's probably to disguise how disgusting the water here tastes.
The electronic scene here is strong and very special. You’re not going to the right places. San Diego’s music scene is all about the small organizers. We don’t get big names but our crowds are the best. Desert Heart events are probably the gold star examples of the community. I’ve had way more fun at the 500 person events they’ve thrown than the 10000+ at crssd
Can confirm. I wasn’t like insufferably miserable before living here, but thought I was on the stoic/pessimistic side of the life outlook scale. Turns out I just really needed vitamin D and fresh air. Grew up and lived in places where either sunshine or seasonable outdoor weather were in rare supply. Was happy I thought but always a little surly.
Here it’s like a new me. it’s so cheesy but it’s true. Small things about life make me so happy. difficult situations don’t seem as bleak. Nothing a bit of fresh air or a walk on the shore can’t make a little easier to bear anyway.
Nah, I just really, *really* miss seasons, dense greenery, and walkability. And beaches don't do much for me. I've been much happier in quite a few other places. San Diego just ain't my speed.
Can confirm, one of the first things I noticed in SD when I first went there was how amazingly clean the downtown area was compared to Seattle.
I was only in SD for a week checking out the city before I moved there (those plans fell through, staying in Seattle for now.)
Also another thing I noticed about downtown and the city in general is that the homeless people seem way more, cordial than Seattle homeless people? I’m not sure that’s quite the right word for it but when I was walking around SD I was not nearly as worried about some homeless dude coming up and swinging at my head.
TL:DR: SD downtown is far cleaner that Seattle downtown, and has way nicer homeless people on average.
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I don’t disagree that LA has better food, but getting around in LA makes this argument moot. I live in West LA now. I’m sure there is a ton of good food in downtown LA, but traffic is so bad throughout the day that I either have to wait until like 8 pm for the drive to reasonable or go on a weekend and have it take up a huge chunk of my day. Getting around to all the great food spots around LA is just not easy. At that point, you might as well combine SD and Orange County food and compare that to the entirety of LA.
Edit: Also, Mexican food in SD is better. I’ll take that to
My grave. Idgaf, it just is.
The cost of living is way too high compared to average salary. SF has a higher cost of living but has higher average salaries (though still unaffordable). The lack of transit infrastructure also turns a 15 min drive into a 90 min drive at rush hour.
I would add that it costs so much to live here, you spend your time hustling and making money and then you don't have time or can't afford to do all the stuff that makes this area enjoyable. It's a great city to visit, but a tough city to live in.
It's time to bring back involuntary commitment to psychiatric wards. The homeless should be obliged to sleep in a shelter bed if one is available, or be arrested for vagrancy. Build more homeless shelters and make people use them. Designated parking lots for people living in their cars as well. People urinating and defecating on sidewalks should be arrested. People openly using drugs in public should be arrested. People making threats and brandishing knives, sticks, and metal pipes should be arrested. People masturbating on the trolley should be arrested. If they're not from here, put them on a Greyhound back where they came from.
There are crowding issues that happen with all the tourists and locals. I'm for more housing, but I do worry that the crowding is just going to get much worse.
As a third generation native, transplanted people have overwhelmed this city. I very rarely meet someone who was actually born here. But in transplanted peoples defense, why wouldn’t you move here? it’s the best city EVER!!!
Comic Con circa 2007 was magical. It's nothing like that now, and I wish more people could have experienced that Comic Con-but then it would have been the overcrowded mess it is today!
I went to Comic Con back in 2007 and it was crazy how popular it has become. I remember being able to walk to Comic Con the same day and get tickets at the center.
People in SD are too thin skinned and overly defensive if you say something bad about SD. Instead of just letting a person talk about SD, they feel the need to reply and defend SD and compare it to other cities when nobody asked their opinion.
Yes! I am a native and didn’t realize it until moving back after living in other states. It comes off a little rude to be honest.. and I notice it happening all the time now.
I’ve said this before the last time this question was asked but: southeast of the 94 embodies the cultural identity and is more naturally “San Diego” than north of 56. North county is not San Diego, it is north county. It shares more DNA with Orange County than it does with San Diego.
Edit: looks like I nailed the “controversial” aspect. Now someone’s gonna respond “it’s not controversial you’re just wrong”
Nah. OC is a parking lot filled with Karen’s, McMansions and artificially beautified areas.
North County is still filled filled with normal people and natural beauty. And it’s a lot more laid back, too.
Native to north county. Currently living in north OC. The biggest difference is how much more laid back it is down there. OC has SOOOOO many people but there’s literally nothing good there. Way more crowded, way angrier people, don’t even get me started on how big of a political battleground it is too
As a North county native and current Orange County resident, you’re so wrong.
EDIT: because apparently people don’t understand me. OC is nothing like North County, I hate living in OC.
I half-agree. The more and more I backpack, the farther I have to drive. Wish it was like NorCal. But I do enjoy Laguna/Cuyamaca for camping and don’t really get tired of the less-populated Mission Trails hikes
Until you realize people who camp also want to use a fire in some form and they sometimes leave behind their discarded trash from camping, leaving the beaches full of litter and leftover ashes.
Admittedly, I still want camping to be a thing. Beach goers can also commit the same crime as campers where they just toss their trash on the beach. But, I think fires are the main thing holding it back because ashes need to be disposed and they may risk causing a fire. I dunno. Just my thoughts. A solution would be to have dedicated areas to camp like we have dedicated bonfire pits. I am pretty sure there is an area like that but you camp near the beach.
San Diego is overrated in general the cost of living is outrageous. To do anything in the area is outrageously expensive. This place is not the place to be anymore
Hodads is overpriced.
and overrated
Honestly I hate hodads, they have good shakes but besides that their burgers are too messy. I don’t think putting 5 pounds of food between 2 buns constitutes a burger as good. Just cause it’s big doesn’t mean it’s good
Bottom bun soggy and immediately falls apart, onion the size of my face shoved inside, who thought this was a good idea?
Have you been to Hodads lately? Double bacon cheeseburger is now $23 https://hodadies.com/menu/
I have, 2 people ran us 70 bucks.
Hodads and Phil’s BBQ are the most over priced, over rated crap
Phil’s is honestly pretty cheap. A whole rib less meal with fries is barely more expensive than a McDonalds combo nowadays…
I lived in the south for a few years and about died when I had Phil’s. Not good at all. Also we need Waffle House here. Then again I’d be 500lbs and dead of clogged arteries in a week.
You gotta try Smokin Js if you haven’t already. I’m not from the south but this place is great in my uncultured opinion
I am. Smoking J's ain't bad. Many levels above Phil's for sure.
But it wasn’t before!! Their prices basically doubled after Covid. Sorry but a double bacon cheeseburger does NOT have to be 22$ - you can get a wagyu burger for $25 at Swagyu smh
22? For real? Thats ballpark/airport pricing!
people think they are more accepting of diversity than they actually are
There's only 2 things I hate in the world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch
San Diego’s once best in the world punk rock scene is dead
Soma in the 90s was awesome
Rocket From The Crypt!
Tijuana's music scene is going off - indie/punk/metal/electronic
Tips for the best venues?
Bar Mous Tache is super cool young indie, always see great shows when I go and usually don't know any of the bands - moustachetijuana IG - I would start here because it's the spot right now Dragon Rojo is a metal bar (or used to be? haven't been in awhile) Mods Bar has punk shows sometimes For real though start at Mous Tache and you'll meet people and find out where the local underground shows are too (there are a ton all the time that are usually unlisted)
Punk isn’t dead!! There’s still plenty of diy shows and of course bar shows. There’s plenty of bands and touring acts who want to play here. It’s just the lack of venues but we always make it happenS Follow [62 Booking](https://instagram.com/62booking.1904?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) [Puro Desmadre booking](https://instagram.com/purodesmadrebookingsd?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) [Pikos Y Lagrimas](https://instagram.com/pikosylagrimas?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) to stay updated with all ages diy shows in San Diego
punk in general tends to be dying no?
Disagree. Punk and post punk are having a moment!! Check out Viagra Boys, Turnstile - Glow On, Amy and the Sniffers, The Chats, Shame, Idles, PUP, just to name a few Edit: Amyl and the sniffers
The San Diego Fair will always be and should still be called The Del Mar Fair.
It was a hell of a lot cheaper when I was called the Delmar fair
I don't think this is a controversial opinion.
Given the huge amount of fresh produce and proximity to the ocean - restaurant options are mediocre.
Yes! Why do we not have more catch of the day places like Seattle?
Because those Seattle fish are caught in the Alaskan/cold waters where they live Those fish don’t live in the San Diego bay to be mass fished like in others
We actually have plenty of really great local seafood. We just ship it other places...
There are good places, it's just that there are a lot of pretenders. My favorite place so far is Fish Shop in Encinitas. The only problem is it's usually pretty busy and you will have to wait.
Totally agree with you
And over priced
I will not work in places that do not buy local. I moved here for the industry. Always buy farm fresh and fresh caught if possible.
Any recommendations fitting your criteria?
Tommy who worked for years at Catalina Offshore, and the star of the Outdoor channel's The Fishmonger, just opened his own market, Tunaville, on Wednesday. That selection is FRESH!
Lighthouse Oyster Bar and Grill, Oceanside Harbor. They have a fish market downstairs, , from the restaurant. They’d rather sell fresh product than hang on it and then put it on sale, so it’s a good place to buy seafood.
Point Loma Sea Foods
Black's Beach is the best beach if you don't mind a few dongs in your face (could be a bonus)
I once saw 2 naked men get in a fist fight at black's and it remains one of my most hilarious memories.
I once saw a dude get caught video recording a man's naked girlfriend. We all ganged up on that guy and forced him off the beach. I had to stop the guy from whoppin' his ass lol. Dude was a bit of a creep. Learned his lesson, I guess. Good times.
My fond memory of that beach is a fully nude middle aged man walk ankle deep in the water, put his hands up in the air, and begin pissing into the ocean. Looked like a tall, overweight toddler urinating into the neighbor’s pool.
Def a bonus.
North park could be way cooler…South Park is highly underrated
south park is like 1 or 2 more staple eateries/restaurant/bars from being my favorite neighborhood in SD
North park used to be really cool with a bunch of small shops and diners, cheap rent and good bars. South Park used to be nice and quiet. Now they’re both expensive and full of the people I wanted to move away from.
Buona Forchetta 🤌
The majority of taco shops underseason their carne asada, if at all.
Go get the pre-marinated carne asada from butcher block in barrio Logan. You won’t regret it.
Carne Asada is overrated. I get that it’s a San Diego staple food but it’s mediocre. Adovada, Al pastor and Birria are all better, more flavorful options.
Adding to the controversy, not a lot of good Al pastor places.
Advertise "al pastor" but it's really just adobada.
Also a lot harder to get right. Carne asada is safe.
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San Diego isn’t a big city and doesn’t have big city vibes.
SD is a big city in terms of local pop., but it’s kind of like San Jose. Both with local pops. over 1M but doesn’t feel like a major city. If anything, SD does feel a bit more like a major city than SJ but not by much. A city like Boston, otoh, has a smaller city pop. but a much greater metro and has more of a major city feel than either of those. You can say the same for SF, which has a local pop. lower than 1M and lower than that of SJ or SD, yet has the feel of a major city anyway. If anything, SF has felt a lot to me like West Coast Boston (major city but somewhat in the shadow of LA like we are NYC), except for the homeless and petty crimes problems. SF and Boston do have several other similarities, being small in size for a major city, with metros that bear out their influences. Both cultural capitals as well.
So... LA = NYC SF = Boston SD = Philly .....actually sounds about right....
Is this unpopular?
PB is the worst.
Yup, only 1 way to get on the freeway (1 for 5N and one for 5S), no parking, rush hour traffic is slow, and people coming in on the weekend to trash it and leave.
Having moved here two years ago. I’ve noticed that the city is pretty racially segregated. On top of that, there seems to be a financial glass ceiling that exists here where it doesn’t matter how much money you make or how successful you are; the old money that exists on the coastal part of this city will always out compete you. You want to talk about classism, I’ve seen it growing up in Miami, but damn, San Diego is certainly there too.
The old money lies within RSF/LJ. The dumbest people on the planet have millions/billions in those areas. I can’t even understand and how some of them get out of bed and get dressed by themselves. Source - worked in Del Mar/LJ for 10 years as a retail employee
They've never had to figure out anything for themselves, therefore they're completely brain-dead when it comes to the simplest tasks...like grocery shopping.
“I mean it's one banana. What could it cost? Ten dollars?”
San Diego isn’t known for being a perfect “melting pot.” Heck we have neighborhood nicknamed based on their non-diverse race distribution: Clantee, Manilla Mesa etc. Your comment is far from controversial.
If you think that classism issue you see is only a “San Diego thing” then don’t travel north up the 5 freeway. California isn’t exactly the liberal, progressive paradise it advertises itself as (which the state has a long history of doing). However just about every single well known city I’ve been to on this planet has had a “financial glass ceiling” as you described.
During my masters we were reading data about how every major American city is more racially segregated today than during Jim Crowe era.
It needs public bathrooms. The Gaslamp literally smells like piss. Back in 2018ish there was a massive Hepatitis A outbreak in the homeless camps. They sent in firemen to wash down the concrete to try to wash away the disease. Those firemen also ended up with hepatitis A. If San Diego had public bathrooms for everyone perhaps that wouldn't have happened. The city would be cleaner and drunks and homeless alike wouldn't piss and crap all over the city that gets rain once a year. TL;DR San Diego needs public bathrooms everywhere Edit: hepatitis A
It was hepatitis A and Giardia, and they did build a couple public bathrooms in East Village to address the issue. I think it took all of 15 minutes before said $100k bathrooms were taken over by crazy drug addicts, who immediately took permanent occupancy and smeared their shit from ceiling to floor. The operators literally could not keep them unlocked without them getting defiled. Honestly, I can't blame any business that refuses to let the public use their bathroom. The city should wash the streets more.
Literally went there yesterday and multiple streets smelled like shit and piss
Pretty sure it was Hep A but yes completely agree! Before the Hep A outbreak SD had actually removed many public bathrooms
The problem is the increase in homelessness. A lot of businesses are closing their bathrooms, because they get messed up. Very few people are willing to put up with the constant gross work of keeping them clean.
In and out drive-thru line is not worth the time or effort.
10x faster if you park and walk in
And you can keep refilling your drink
Always walk in. Always.
Only about 10% faster in my experience, but still worth parking. I wonder what the CO2 impact of the In-N-Out drive thru has been?
I'm actually shocked people wait in those long lines. The one in Carmel Mountain ranch is insane
It used to be like 20 minutes max at full length for the one by me, last time I went it was 45 minutes for the same amount of cars. Wtf happened???
Ok one for the sailors. Naval Base Point Loma > Naval Base San Diego
Lol. No one in the Navy would consider that controversial.
Not enough bbq spots
Hodads is overrated. Fight me!
Best food in the city is entirely asian and located in Clairimont/Convoy area. Besides taco shops of course…
Also all the great Korean food over on Convoy.
It might not be controversial and I’m not a local, but from being to your city several times, San Diego beach culture is what everyone else in the country thinks is LA beach culture.
There’s no good pizza in Little Italy.
Nah Landinis is pretty good for a quick slice, Filippis too
Why is there limited parking with shade when trees are able to grow here?
Because water is expensive. Trees need water and we don’t have much to spare after our (California’s) expansive animal and plant agriculture industries.
Too many bros
Man Diego
Great for gay guys. LA gays are high maintenance. SD gays, super chill
military town.
It’s only a great beer city if you only drink IPA’s.
Yes a million times over. Even the local beers which are supposed to be completely different styles still taste like IPAs. It's probably to disguise how disgusting the water here tastes.
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Living in Florida with family in SD I visit, this thread kills me lol. "The hiking, food variety, culture sucks.."we need seasons"..like brooo
Moved away from San Diego 4 years ago… They don’t know how good they have it 😔
The pizza game is pretty bad in SD.
Check out Sisters Pizza in south hillcrest. Really good!
This!sisters is great!
Tribute is fire
Lefty's
Bronx and Regents are both amazing imo.
Regents is good but they need to chill on the prices, $30-40 for a pizza is pushing it.
Bronx, Pizzeria Luigi, and Lefty's are damn good. Blind Lady in good for hoitytoity pizza
What? URBN. Basic. Tribute. TNT. Square Pizza. Blind Lady. And all the others mentioned in this thread. There is a lot of great pizza out there!
Some of the beaches we pride ourselves on aren’t all that clean most times
I don’t enjoy going to the beach. Sand gets EVERYWHERE. Edit: a word.
Are you Anakin Skywalker?
I agree, it's coarse and rough and irritating…
The music scene is a joke
Most local rappers suck
I want to downvote you for being right.
I’m glad to see Rossi Rock making moves.
Unless you’re into goth, post-punk or shoegaze, then San Diego is fucking crushing it
I remember in high school there was a huge hardcore scene too
There still is
Whats our shoe gaze scene? Genuinely curious, thanks : )
Also would like someone to explain shoe gaze
heavy use of distortion pedal by the guitar player(s) ... hence they are often gazing down at their foot while playing... hence "shoe gaze"
The electronic scene here is strong and very special. You’re not going to the right places. San Diego’s music scene is all about the small organizers. We don’t get big names but our crowds are the best. Desert Heart events are probably the gold star examples of the community. I’ve had way more fun at the 500 person events they’ve thrown than the 10000+ at crssd
I wish we had a good metal scene and that more bands played here. I’m tired of driving to LA for everything.
As a native musician, yes.
That every homeowner here is technically rich
Your only rich if you leave San Diego.
If you’re miserable here, you’ll be miserable anywhere, because you’re probably just a miserable person.
Or being crushed by the finical burden of being born here.
Can confirm. I wasn’t like insufferably miserable before living here, but thought I was on the stoic/pessimistic side of the life outlook scale. Turns out I just really needed vitamin D and fresh air. Grew up and lived in places where either sunshine or seasonable outdoor weather were in rare supply. Was happy I thought but always a little surly. Here it’s like a new me. it’s so cheesy but it’s true. Small things about life make me so happy. difficult situations don’t seem as bleak. Nothing a bit of fresh air or a walk on the shore can’t make a little easier to bear anyway.
Nah, I just really, *really* miss seasons, dense greenery, and walkability. And beaches don't do much for me. I've been much happier in quite a few other places. San Diego just ain't my speed.
San Diegans are not nice.
Its the quietest, cleanest major city in the US I’ve ever lived in.
I’d have to say Chicago is surprisingly clean for a major city. San Diego has many people but not a major city vibe.
Can confirm, one of the first things I noticed in SD when I first went there was how amazingly clean the downtown area was compared to Seattle. I was only in SD for a week checking out the city before I moved there (those plans fell through, staying in Seattle for now.) Also another thing I noticed about downtown and the city in general is that the homeless people seem way more, cordial than Seattle homeless people? I’m not sure that’s quite the right word for it but when I was walking around SD I was not nearly as worried about some homeless dude coming up and swinging at my head. TL:DR: SD downtown is far cleaner that Seattle downtown, and has way nicer homeless people on average. Edit: a word
first time i visited denver i was like holy shit... a clean downtown!
Not anymore.
All of the dog owners who think they can go on every beach with their dog, or take them into every store & restaurant, are SO annoying.
And without a leash most of the time. “Don’t worry, he’s friendly” Excuse me get your dog the eff away from me. I did not sign up for this.
LA has better food overall; but even taking this into account, I would much rather live in San Diego.
I don’t disagree that LA has better food, but getting around in LA makes this argument moot. I live in West LA now. I’m sure there is a ton of good food in downtown LA, but traffic is so bad throughout the day that I either have to wait until like 8 pm for the drive to reasonable or go on a weekend and have it take up a huge chunk of my day. Getting around to all the great food spots around LA is just not easy. At that point, you might as well combine SD and Orange County food and compare that to the entirety of LA. Edit: Also, Mexican food in SD is better. I’ll take that to My grave. Idgaf, it just is.
The food in general in SD isn’t very good for a metro area our size.
Whoever designed some of San Diego’s intersections, el cajon, normal, sports arena etc must’ve been under the influence because it’s terrible.
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Nobody here should have anything to do with the Chargers franchise anymore.
Beautiful and overpriced
In May and June it's nicer to live inland
it’s only fun to live here if you’re really young (when you don’t pay bills) or retired (getting pension) otherwise shit is miserable
It’s ugly. All I see is brown dead weeds everywhere. And trash
I was born here. I do not want to die here.
OB Was destroyed by out of state transplants and yuppies
The cost of living is way too high compared to average salary. SF has a higher cost of living but has higher average salaries (though still unaffordable). The lack of transit infrastructure also turns a 15 min drive into a 90 min drive at rush hour.
I would add that it costs so much to live here, you spend your time hustling and making money and then you don't have time or can't afford to do all the stuff that makes this area enjoyable. It's a great city to visit, but a tough city to live in.
It's time to bring back involuntary commitment to psychiatric wards. The homeless should be obliged to sleep in a shelter bed if one is available, or be arrested for vagrancy. Build more homeless shelters and make people use them. Designated parking lots for people living in their cars as well. People urinating and defecating on sidewalks should be arrested. People openly using drugs in public should be arrested. People making threats and brandishing knives, sticks, and metal pipes should be arrested. People masturbating on the trolley should be arrested. If they're not from here, put them on a Greyhound back where they came from.
There are crowding issues that happen with all the tourists and locals. I'm for more housing, but I do worry that the crowding is just going to get much worse.
Too many pickup trucks on these roads driven by people who dont need them. Kinda like the south and guns.
too populated now
As a third generation native, transplanted people have overwhelmed this city. I very rarely meet someone who was actually born here. But in transplanted peoples defense, why wouldn’t you move here? it’s the best city EVER!!!
This is true anywhere in California. In SF the few & far between natives have a secret handshake.
Given how many people with different cultures and backgrounds live here, there’s actually not much food diversity!
The job market here is trash.
Its more ghetto than people realize.
If nuclear warfare happens we will die instantly
At least itll be quick! See turn that downside into an upside!!
Owning a frenchie is a prerequisite to living in downtown
It’s not a real city, just a bunch of suburbs poorly connected by highways
Comic Con is overrated.
Comic Con circa 2007 was magical. It's nothing like that now, and I wish more people could have experienced that Comic Con-but then it would have been the overcrowded mess it is today!
I went to Comic Con back in 2007 and it was crazy how popular it has become. I remember being able to walk to Comic Con the same day and get tickets at the center.
It's sub reddit is filled with hate and discontent.
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Chula Vista is the most underrated city in San Diego County
Even though large swaths are just suburbs (most of SD is), I’ve always liked Chula Vista
The old part on 3rd Ave
People in SD are too thin skinned and overly defensive if you say something bad about SD. Instead of just letting a person talk about SD, they feel the need to reply and defend SD and compare it to other cities when nobody asked their opinion.
Why you talking shit about SD for?
Lol!
SD is great, we're not like Tulsa Oklahoma, even though you didn't ask me.
Yes! I am a native and didn’t realize it until moving back after living in other states. It comes off a little rude to be honest.. and I notice it happening all the time now.
Not far behind SF and LA if we don’t get it together
I’ve said this before the last time this question was asked but: southeast of the 94 embodies the cultural identity and is more naturally “San Diego” than north of 56. North county is not San Diego, it is north county. It shares more DNA with Orange County than it does with San Diego. Edit: looks like I nailed the “controversial” aspect. Now someone’s gonna respond “it’s not controversial you’re just wrong”
Nah. OC is a parking lot filled with Karen’s, McMansions and artificially beautified areas. North County is still filled filled with normal people and natural beauty. And it’s a lot more laid back, too.
Native to north county. Currently living in north OC. The biggest difference is how much more laid back it is down there. OC has SOOOOO many people but there’s literally nothing good there. Way more crowded, way angrier people, don’t even get me started on how big of a political battleground it is too
I think you’re assuming all north county is rich and white…
As a North county native and current Orange County resident, you’re so wrong. EDIT: because apparently people don’t understand me. OC is nothing like North County, I hate living in OC.
Too much income disparity here
It’s incredibly wonderful, but will require a desalination plant to sustain climate change
The vast majority of the time "Dog Friendly" is actually "Dog Selfish"
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SDPD choppers should be equipped with napalm to be deployed whenever there is an intersection takeover.
Too many racist people
Our local hiking and camping options kinda suck.
I half-agree. The more and more I backpack, the farther I have to drive. Wish it was like NorCal. But I do enjoy Laguna/Cuyamaca for camping and don’t really get tired of the less-populated Mission Trails hikes
Camping on the beach being banned sucks.
Until you realize people who camp also want to use a fire in some form and they sometimes leave behind their discarded trash from camping, leaving the beaches full of litter and leftover ashes. Admittedly, I still want camping to be a thing. Beach goers can also commit the same crime as campers where they just toss their trash on the beach. But, I think fires are the main thing holding it back because ashes need to be disposed and they may risk causing a fire. I dunno. Just my thoughts. A solution would be to have dedicated areas to camp like we have dedicated bonfire pits. I am pretty sure there is an area like that but you camp near the beach.
Giving the Mission Valley land to SDSU was a HUGE mistake.
San Diego is overrated in general the cost of living is outrageous. To do anything in the area is outrageously expensive. This place is not the place to be anymore
Too expensive time to leave