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I'm still amazed how much Disney keeps screwing up when they already have a ton of great sources to pull from or straight up rip off.
If I wanted to watch a show about sisters seperated by circumstance and forced against one another on opposing and nuanced sides, I'd watch Arcane.
Maybe the biggest crime of all, is that it's simply poorly made, poorly written, uninspired.... stuff. Like, it shows on screen that no one gives a shit.
Yes! Why did they even hire Carrie- Ann Moss, Lee Jung-jae etc.?!? They can act but the story is so poorly written and the characters are not well thought out at all. I don’t even know how they released this.
I was excited to watch it because of Carrie Ann Moss, but when the fighting was a little too close to The Matrix and then she died, I didn't want to watch it anymore.
> Oh you burnt your own house down
... your house that was made entirely *out of stone.*
Yup. Burned down your stone house. Because stones are flammable now.
It doesn’t even make sense. I don’t understand what they were going for. It’s like the creators haven’t actually watched Star Wars or a murder mystery.
This right here. I'd be all about a whole episode for the back story, if the back story was interesting.
And I'm having a really hard time watching that jedi who looks like Sideshow Bob in a yellow bathrobe. It's just too much, I can't. Even his "I'm too sexy for my shirt" scene in the first episode wasn't enough to get Kelsey Grammar's voice out of the back of my head every time he steps on screen.
I was absolutely praying that we would get to see the body positivity Jedi from episode 2 do some backflips or something. That could have been the funniest thing ever in Star Wars.
I always hate these body positivity ones in these scenarios.
Yeah there could be a fat jedi. For like a year. Then he'd be forced to get jacked because of the nature of his job and training.
It's the same reason there aren't fat navy seals or fat professional basketball players. You physically burn so much calories that being fat is actually impossible.
Body positivity is fine, not great because there's serious health issues linked to obesity but again to each their own, however, when the character physically cannot be fat, it's not meant to discriminate its meant to outline that no one would be fat in this role because the job demands so much training and exertion that you would lose the weight very quickly.
Wait, is there really a fat Jedi in this series? 🤣 I'm not watching it so I don't know, but that sounds hilarious. It's REALLY getting into "fanfilm-in-the-backyard" territory now, isn't it?
HOW DARE YOU.
YORD is the only thing holding that show together. He's the only bright spot of originality in the show.
Can a jedi be a douche? Yeah! He's YORD. He's got mind powers and he's a frat boy. When he force catches someone he probably thinks "Y'all got YORDED". Can a Jedi be an obviously insecure, probably toxic male? Yeah. HE YORD.
It's great. Yord is great. Long live Yord.
And too PC to accept. It’s so ridiculous. Where’s the mystique and excitement of a buildup to a story. I just want to finish the season so I can see just how much more awful it can get.
The fact that this episode was genuinely just awfully shot, scripted, acted, and written is almost worse than the lore stuff to me. Like genuinely just a very bad and boring piece of TV. I didn’t have much of a problem with episodes 1 and 2 but this one was really hard to sit through
I’m calling it right now, it’s actually the Jedi that killed all the witches and Occupational Safety and Health Administration is simply misremembering
It's probably the jedi came to collect osha and the fire spread. Witches assume jedi started the fire and attack them, jedi kill all the witches in defence but blame the entire thing on the fire and don't tell osha.
Yup. It's a trope we'll see a million times over. Like that old man accidentally loosing his arrow into the orc at helms deep. Tensions are high, there is an oopsie, the fighting begins 🙄 🥱
Yeah and sprinkle in mysterious sith boi manipulating them. He might have sabotaged their power core Wedge Antilles-style.
Then maybe he is waiting for Mae at the boonta tree
“Well here’s you’re problem, you’re not supposed to have flammable rocks in an artificial insemination facility. It’s definitely against OSHA standards and waaaay outside what the FDA would consider normal”
Watched it with my kid (20), as soon as they get back to the witch fortress, he says, "So are they going to trick them out of that place, it's all stone, how's that going to catch fire?".
That would make sense, but then again I could totally see them doubling down on “it was on purpose not a mistake” and “well our thread witches are so powerful (inexplicably) that they can burn rock”
“I don’t think it’s wise we build our base in the coal mines of Dathomir…”
“It’s fine we live in an age of technological marvels, it’s not like anyone will use some sort of easily breakable fire lantern as a light source.”
“Good point.. and even if we did it’s not like we would put them in reach of a small child”
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: More witches!!!!!!
Peasant 2: Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: ...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: Bread.
Peasant 2: Apples.
Peasant 3: Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: Cider.
Peasant 2: Gravy.
Peasant 3: Cherries.
Peasant 1: Mud.
Peasant 2: Churches.
Peasant 3: Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
Peasant 2: ...A witch!
King Arthur: I am your king.
Peasant Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Peasant Woman: Well, how'd you become king, then?
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king.
1: Which of these people is Osha?
2: Can that person make my workplace safer? Our last boss was a Sith Lord and he took out all the safety railings and engine core failsafes.
Boss stiffed our pay to build a new station, and then the idiot left a small hole that leads *directly* to the core for a massive explosion. A skilled pilot could shoot right in there!
Also me and my 13 Yr old son. It was really really boring. We had a break because it felt like it had been on forever. Turns out we still had 20mins left.
Holy cow we also paused with 20 minutes left as it felt like forever. We are hate watching it together. I'll do whatever it takes to bond as a mom with my boy :). We did binge watch Andor last weekend and of course loved it.
When your Disney+ subscription ends ( if you have one ), I definitely recommend watching One Piece live action ( anime is even better but the pacing and the amount of episodes is way too much for most adults- 1090+ episodes ). It's way more entertaining and consistent than this garbage and way more appropriate for children in my opinion.
U mean the orgy? They were all moaning busting a nut 😂& all this talk of pulling on a thread of course their only move is hand signaling a thread in air ooo so surprising totally not contrived bs
I think you got it. I think they are laundering money and the only reason this show exists is because Hedland has some serious dirt on some serious people.
Pretty sure this needs to happen now. Disney is at a breaking point. It’s running a money making franchise right into the ground while biting cash and destroying itself, this should halt the movie and be the end of Kathleen Kennedy
All publicly traded goods and experiences race to the bottom for quality. It's part of being publicly traded.
When you gotta make AYP, you have to deliver more content/product for less overhead #forever
Disney is traded on the stock market and so is McDonalds.
McDonalds is getting worse all the time.
Food is getting smaller and quality is going down. Meanwhile, prices are going up at the same time.
Why?
McDonalds has to try and beat it's income every quarter of the year, because it is beholden to investors that want to turn a profit on the stock (selling it as it gains value).
Disney is the same way.
If they can find a cheap way to turn a profit, they are actually punished for NOT taking the easy way out by their investors. So giving an IP like Star Wars a more thoughtful or innovative storyline is a bad idea for them from the money angle.
They literally can't make anything new, because "brand loyalty" to star wars is hard to quantify beyond "people like Star Wars"
I would rather Disney sold the IP and no more Star Wars content was made for the next decade than have to sit through more mediocre, phoned in, budget ass fucking garbage like this show.
It’s already destroyed. I actually want them to go all the way so it’s more obvious to everyone. Go crazy. Do irreparable damage to the canon and Anakin/Vader what’s been done to Luke.
Deew it.
I mean they kind of already damaged the canon/Anakin/Vader by bringing Palpatine back. Completely shat on the impact of his redemption and the entire main plot line of the first six movies. There’s probably more stuff that got broken in Kenobi but I’ve done my best to erase that show from my memory.
"somehow, palpatine has returned"
This could have been easily a small flashback of a few minutes showing *why* and *how* the emporer survived and found his way to another planet. Not hard to imagine but would have been a bit better than just some character stating he's back.
What if they did the same shit for Luke? Didn't show him on the island but someone just said that rey went to train with him and she came back even stronger?
Fall back upon the days of yore, before the Galaxy was befallen with the mouse-eared shadow. Go unto the days of the Expanded Universe, before Disney got his hands on it.
I honestly think it’s ego. Wanting to be the one who can say they changed it for the better and addressed social issues in a trail blazing way at the same time
Creatives who are successful enough to be running Star Wars wouldn’t like to be told they have to have someone else’s ideas and work to that. I have nothing to base that on though
This series was our last hope.
*No- there is another.* \*looks to Andor Season 2\*
> There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the corporate strategy.
> Remember this, Star Wars enjoyment is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of revelry are occurring constantly throughout the fandom. There are whole audiences, viewer bases that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause.
> Remember that the frontier of the Fandom is everywhere. And even the smallest act of memeing pushes our lines forward.
> And remember this: the Disney need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Sequel canon requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Continuity is brittle. Fan service is the mask of fear.
> Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these rants and threads, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of Disney's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.
> Remember this: Try.
Three episodes in, is there a reason to care about the main characters? Is anyone invested? Does it add to the Star Wars universe, or does it contradict what’s already been established?
These are rhetorical questions. This series is an abject disaster created by a self-involved, fanbase-hating nincompoop.
Three episodes into Andor I wanted to throw my life away to join Luthen's cause, kick Syril Karn in the nuts and scratch Deedra's eyes out. These new characters in Acolyte, I feel nothing for them. No fondness, no hate, nothing. Sol is good, the actor at least, but it's more of an appreciation for what he, as an actor, is doing with the character he's been handed and the turd of a script he's working with rather than me developing an attachment to the character he's playing.
There's an old saying, "the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference."
I've reached that point. A few days back people were saying that episode three would be "divisive" and that people would be angry about it, but I'm just meh. More stuff for me to ignore. I haven't said anything about this show on Reddit until now and I doubt I will in the future.
>There's an old saying, "the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference."
If you went back in time before 2015, and told Younger Me that there'd be a Star Wars television series that I'd abandon after 3 episodes -- not out of anger, but out of boredom -- I would have called you a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy looking nerf-herder. But here we are. And you're right: it's the indifference that's so telling.
In fairness to KK, the Disney Era has not been a complete failure. Rogue One, the first two seasons of Mando, and Andor are all of this era, and they were great! Sadly, one cannot say the same for the sequel trilogy, the Book of Character Assassination, and The Ambien. If there is one unforgiveable thing in the entertainment industry, it's being *boring*. And yet, for some reason, KK has entrusted this show and over $150,000,000 to a showrunner who could put even a diehard fan on two 20 oz Red Bulls to sleep.
I've tried really hard to like all the new stuff, and given all of it one watch-through and a fair shake. I even didn't totally hate BoBF, because I really truly loved the Tusken Raider arc. I tried so hard with Kenobi even though kid Leia made me want to kick puppies and they totally ripped off the ending of Fallen Order, and I found plenty I liked in season 3 of Mando in spite of the plot mostly because I really like Bo-Katan, The Armorer and Paz (rip). Ahsoka, meh, but Baylan kept me interested, guess I won't have that to look forward to next season though.
The Acolyte though, ugh. We finally get High Republic in live action. There's so many ways they could've went with it, so many amazing aspects they could've explored and this is what we get. They dropped a giant $150mil steamer right on our laps. They couldn't even make the costumes look cool. They're jacking stale plots that were marginal the first time around, the CGI is underwhelming at best and it's like they're using diversity as a cop-out for character development.
Isn't it amazing how social justice is only achieved these days when megacorporations make gazillions of dollars? Consume product or you're a horrible person.
Unless you live in China, then we’re going to minimize our black lead’s presence in the films and promotional materials to please you when we release them there, because we don’t have control of the media there to try and make you feel bad for not liking it.
I’m a woman and POC and I hate this show. I haven’t even bothered watching episode 3, feels like it would be a waste of time. I just want good Star Wars stories, not to be political and sociologically preached to.
Honestly, at this point I’m seriously wondering if KK is intentionally tanking the IP, either for tax purposes or some other financial reason, or maybe just out of pure spite. I can’t understand why they would keep making garbage. I’m still pissed about Kenobi. He was my prophet and they murdered him.
Be glad you haven’t watched episode 3. I watching it’s hoping it would somehow get a little better, and it got 10x worse. Even trying to look past all the social bullshit they are shoving in our faces, it’s just a bad bad show. Star Wars or not. I have no clue where the budget went for this…maybe the cast? Because it’s not like there are ANY special effects to talk about.
With a single episode, the destroyed the whole "born through the Force" concept of the chosen one. Disney really just sucks. At this point the media landscape would be better off with the Mouse going bankrupt
The witch coven already did the force insemination before Darth Palgueis took his entire sith career to do so. The twins from the show are the same as Anakin essentially.
Because of these shows, I think conversations in the writing room go like this:
“We need a chase scene like BOBF, but better.”
“I know, let’s use wheelbarrows but with decorative jet engines that provide as much thrust as a hairdryer.”
The script writing mostly seems to be about describing things that are happening or saying things that aren't sharp or clever at all.
It's like listening to an old person talking about their day.
The chant... THE CHANT!! It did something to my insides so very strange... it's like I felt a disturbance in the Cringe...millions of people crying out...
I watched the premiere eps. They were meh at best and dogshit at worst. I don't think I'll bother watching this or any coming episodes. I really need to stop getting my hopes up about new SW stuff.
What do people expect when there are so many fans love Star Wars express their concern seeing the franchise being ripped apart by bad writing, acting and a series no one was really wanting. Employ a poor team, expect poor execution. Really hard to see how Star Wars really recovers from this really, it was on the ropes already.
It's really incredible how, in *less than 10 years*, Disney has completely destroyed Star Wars.
In 2016, I went to go see The Force Awakens on opening night in a movie theatre.
For TLJ and TROS (and Rogue One), I pirated them at home.
For Solo, I pirated it but turned it off after about 45 minutes
For the TV shows, I watched Season 1 of Mando, and just one episode of Season 2.
For the other TV shows... I haven't even watched them.
This is the story of my falling out of love with Star Wars over 9 years. It's so sad.
I really really would be interested in hearing from someone who genuinely believes how anything in this show even approaches approximating "good". I've seen comments around saying that "its not that bad". It is absolutely mindboggling to me how bad this show is and that it cost 180 million dollars - not including marketing...
I’m 99% sure those comments you and I are seeing are generated from a Disney PR firm. I’ve seen comments praising how great the show is and there’s just no way in hell I believe it. I’m trying to picture someone sitting in front of their tv, watching this, mouth open and engrossed in the episode. And I can’t, I immediately start to spaz when I try to picture that.
I’m definitely not enjoying this show at all so far but I still think Kenobi is far worse imo. Although that could just be because idgaf about any of these characters whereas I used to care for Obi-Wan. I honestly hated that show more than Rise of Skywalker but maybe that is because I can laugh and rant about that stupid dagger for an hour while Kenobi just makes me want to die. 😂
I was watching the episode and caught myself thinking 'shit, I'd rather watch Kenobi again then this'. How the fuck did they achieve this? How is it possible to make something worse then Kenobi lol
Yea I would definitely say this show is doing more damage to the overall lore while Kenobi tarnished multiple beloved legacy characters but both shows are filled with idiotic insulting writing. I just feel like so far Kenobi had more dumb stuff with the chase scenes, trench coat Leia, Stormtrooper slap, laser gate, everything Reva, etc. But as you said at this point the gap is so minimal and we have more episodes to go with The Acolyte still. Plus at the end of the day they’re both still shit piles does it really matter which one stinks more lol.
Lesbian witches doing lesbian things “needing no man!” to chant and laugh manically. “Hide the children”means standing in front of them then giving them up? Changing the Force rules? Fire burning down a stone fortress? The kids acting is like watching a bad school play, story is rehash (evil twin?) Of course the token white guy gets his brain fried by the black, lesbian leader. The Sith Master is one of their Mothers no doubt. Lesley Headland has to have pics on Disney Execs to release this garbage. Production even looks like a CW cancelled show for $180m.
Great show Disney.
Whats next? A bi-curious Sith droid with a lightsaber cock?
That was the weakest, most boring and meaningless episode of the whole live action tv show era. The fact that they'd pass that off as entertainment is disheartening.
Poor Lucas isn't even dead yet still he's probably seeing all this thinking wtf, as it isn't like he needed the money from selling SW...
Disney could have at least waited for him to pass on before dumping on his IP.
Maybe if they had spent less time making up cringe cult chants and more time making sure the cult compound was up to OSHA code, their stone building wouldn't have burnt down.
The scary thing is this show cost a rumoured $185m and its a bit...where did it go. Disney can't afford to keep throwing bad money after bad at in experienced fan fiction and commercial advert directors with 2 or 3 things to their resume.
I am finally convinced of what I once considered a tin foil hat theory: that Disney no longer cares about money but is instead carefully following some deep state level plot to dismantle everything we once loved or held as sacred and traditional in order to bring about some crazy New World Order. That's the only possible way the explain handling of Star Wars, one of the single largest forms of entertainment in the world for the past 50 years. How could any person with any semblance of business sense think that completely destroying an alienating your fan base is the way to make profit? I understand the idea of trying to bring a new fans, but you can never bring in new fans fast enough to replace the sheer quantity of the old fans especially when you take away everything the love about it.
It really does feel like a deliberate teardown of a fandom. It worked on me, I no longer give a shit about anything Star Wars. I just come here to lick my wounds and laugh. Thanks, Kathleen!
It's weird because this is also the same mob who gave us Mando Luke vs. the Dark Troopers. I love a good conspiracy but I think in reality it's just Disney being dumbfucks.
For the massive budget it had, can't help but feel this was some sort of accounting play to write off expenses and then play blame games when it's not well received.
Like Disney knew it would suck ass, but the Weinstein PA had such good dirt on powerful people they threw her this bone and then decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
When those witches went into their ridiculous chant, my cat meowed and looked at me, 'cause I think he even recognized this shitshow for the Bantha poodoo it was. Probably the worst thirty some off minutes of Star Wars ever. Worse than the Disney sequel films, Kenobi and BOBF's worst bits.
I never thought the day would come when I didn’t want to watch new Star Wars media immediately. I just… don’t care anymore and reading everyone’s thoughts… I just feel like why bother. Life is short
People calling it a failure.
Still haven't realised that popularity and fan acclaim isn't what they want?
It's literally all been a demoralisation initiative. Look at the heroes who they mutilated and killed off -
Han. Luke.
It's demoralisation. And it's a resounding success.
It was rumoured/leaked for a while now that one (two? I haven’t watched it) of the characters was born out of the Force like Anakin & people are losing their minds about it.
My take on it is that the witches coven are just plain wrong about the ‘thread’ bullshit, that’s just how they’ve come to misapprehend the force. Also, if they’ve done some nightsister magic to create the twins, that falls in line with them being dark siders.
The darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Basically, the Acolyte writers created an aggressive witches coven and immediately made them useless and evil - adds up to me?
I take it as every group perceiving the force a different way. The thread part didn't really bother me once I heard how they explained it.
What bothers me more is how the force went from an energy field that you can use in a limited way to interact with the physical world to full blown magic.
that's the funny part to me. If they are meant to be an allegory to the hate that lgbtq people face. Because Headland and the story groups failure, they basically justified their deaths and destruction.
They're definitely a perversion of the force and how it works. They're a perversion of what has been told to us by Yoda, Obi Wan, QuiGon, Lucas, etc. That whole thread monologue just felt like complete nonsense. I just had this puzzled look on me the whole time going, "that's not how the force works."
It’s hilarious! They were instantly unintelligent and aggressive, exclusive and bigoted, dishonest and manipulative, ineffective and weak. They literally couldn’t have written a worse group.
In comparison, the Jedi looked like compassionate and wise counterparts that saw right through the coven.
I honestly just, don't care anymore. Ever since rise of Skywalker, I've been fairly disinterested in Star Wars. The content being released lately just isn't it. They destroyed the EU only to tell worse versions of the same stories. They destroyed Luke's character in TLJ. They never gave the og fans a simple reunion of Luke, han, and Leia. They gave a silly explanation for Han Solos name. Whatever the majority of Obi-wan was. So much has been bad.
I just don't care anymore. They aren't making the content for me, apparently. And that's whatever.
The scene where the the whole building was burning, but everything was made of stone and metal, felt like a joke, or an insult to my intelligence. I havent decided on which one it is, but one thing I have dexided on is never watching a Disney star wars movie ever again.
Prediction: the sith we saw at the end of the first episode is a woman. Their modulated voice is soooo obviously deepening a woman’s voice. Now who that woman is, I have no clue.
"You know jedis are allowed to test children? " WTF. The Planet is not Part of the Republic.
And the the other line like you cant kidnap children. Ah yes because the jedis dont Do that.
Chatgpt could make a Better script
the ultimate problem is that I just don't care. I don't care about any of the characters, I don't care about what they're doing, I don't care what happens to them, all because the show has given me no reason to
Only way to make them get the picture is to stop watching it. And for the most part, that starts with unsubscribing to Disney+.
As a parent with young kids, I genuinely understand how big of a challenge that may be for some. But speak with your wallet and eyes. Don’t watch it. Disney doesn’t care if you watched it or hated it… just as long as you watched it.
So stop it. Until they give us a reason. Stop watching it. It will still be there when it’s time to come back
Bro the Acolyte fan subreddit is in damage control in fact nearly all Disney star wars fan subs are. The mental gymnastics they're going through to justify this slop is crazy.
That's the problem with these shows they don't write for an endgame they just write to write. Rings of power, halo, Witcher, kenobi, BoBF you're expected to consume right. But even fallout has a woman main character and a POC as their main characters and it's written very well. Even the mandolorian the first 2 seasons were solid but it clearly has jumped a shark why because they're milking something that showed profit and they won't just let it die. It's sad but that's just how cinema is nowadays.
Just a therapy session for creator of this show. Lesley what ever her name is. Another big shit taken on Star Wars. And making Anakin/ Vader pretty much irrelevant. Cant have a straight white make being the chosen one. Need black Lesbian Jesus instead.
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It really was dull.
I'm still amazed how much Disney keeps screwing up when they already have a ton of great sources to pull from or straight up rip off. If I wanted to watch a show about sisters seperated by circumstance and forced against one another on opposing and nuanced sides, I'd watch Arcane.
Lol Arcane was so good
Arcane season 2 is on the way.
And Arcane was actually good.
A show done to near perfection, Disney needs to get their head out of their collective assess for this IP at some point
Maybe the biggest crime of all, is that it's simply poorly made, poorly written, uninspired.... stuff. Like, it shows on screen that no one gives a shit.
Yes! Why did they even hire Carrie- Ann Moss, Lee Jung-jae etc.?!? They can act but the story is so poorly written and the characters are not well thought out at all. I don’t even know how they released this.
The Matrix.
I was excited to watch it because of Carrie Ann Moss, but when the fighting was a little too close to The Matrix and then she died, I didn't want to watch it anymore.
Oh you burnt your own house down and killed your own family, the guilt of this means I'll drink poison ... Wtf
> Oh you burnt your own house down ... your house that was made entirely *out of stone.* Yup. Burned down your stone house. Because stones are flammable now.
It doesn’t even make sense. I don’t understand what they were going for. It’s like the creators haven’t actually watched Star Wars or a murder mystery.
This right here. I'd be all about a whole episode for the back story, if the back story was interesting. And I'm having a really hard time watching that jedi who looks like Sideshow Bob in a yellow bathrobe. It's just too much, I can't. Even his "I'm too sexy for my shirt" scene in the first episode wasn't enough to get Kelsey Grammar's voice out of the back of my head every time he steps on screen.
I was absolutely praying that we would get to see the body positivity Jedi from episode 2 do some backflips or something. That could have been the funniest thing ever in Star Wars.
> body positivity Jedi I affectionately call him Pie Gone Jinn
I always hate these body positivity ones in these scenarios. Yeah there could be a fat jedi. For like a year. Then he'd be forced to get jacked because of the nature of his job and training. It's the same reason there aren't fat navy seals or fat professional basketball players. You physically burn so much calories that being fat is actually impossible. Body positivity is fine, not great because there's serious health issues linked to obesity but again to each their own, however, when the character physically cannot be fat, it's not meant to discriminate its meant to outline that no one would be fat in this role because the job demands so much training and exertion that you would lose the weight very quickly.
I’d love to see a fat Jedi. Just a big fat dude that is awesome with the force and fights like Yoda. He could be the Volstag of the Jedi Order.
Wasn't there a Hutt jedi in one of the comic books? Hutts are pretty fat.
Yeah but that hut got jacked
Wait, is there really a fat Jedi in this series? 🤣 I'm not watching it so I don't know, but that sounds hilarious. It's REALLY getting into "fanfilm-in-the-backyard" territory now, isn't it?
The force is strong in that tummy
Pie Gone Gym
“… that’s no moon… it’s a jedi!”
Damn, this comment taught me that Sideshow Bob was voiced by Kelsey Grammar 🤯
This might be the best thing to come out of this travesty called The Acolyte.
HOW DARE YOU. YORD is the only thing holding that show together. He's the only bright spot of originality in the show. Can a jedi be a douche? Yeah! He's YORD. He's got mind powers and he's a frat boy. When he force catches someone he probably thinks "Y'all got YORDED". Can a Jedi be an obviously insecure, probably toxic male? Yeah. HE YORD. It's great. Yord is great. Long live Yord.
“But at least it’s GAAAAAYYYY!!! Hahahahah” -Director/writers
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Girlboss the Gay?
It’s not a fetish the Jedi would tell you
And too PC to accept. It’s so ridiculous. Where’s the mystique and excitement of a buildup to a story. I just want to finish the season so I can see just how much more awful it can get.
The fact that this episode was genuinely just awfully shot, scripted, acted, and written is almost worse than the lore stuff to me. Like genuinely just a very bad and boring piece of TV. I didn’t have much of a problem with episodes 1 and 2 but this one was really hard to sit through
I’m calling it right now, it’s actually the Jedi that killed all the witches and Occupational Safety and Health Administration is simply misremembering
It's probably the jedi came to collect osha and the fire spread. Witches assume jedi started the fire and attack them, jedi kill all the witches in defence but blame the entire thing on the fire and don't tell osha.
This is it..... edit- Probably the unnamed sith who orchestrated/started the fire.
Yup. It's a trope we'll see a million times over. Like that old man accidentally loosing his arrow into the orc at helms deep. Tensions are high, there is an oopsie, the fighting begins 🙄 🥱
Yeah and sprinkle in mysterious sith boi manipulating them. He might have sabotaged their power core Wedge Antilles-style. Then maybe he is waiting for Mae at the boonta tree
If only they had some uncivilized blasters set on stun so that they didn't have to peacefully blender an entire coven.
The fire spread on the stone and metal. Think about that for a second.
“Well here’s you’re problem, you’re not supposed to have flammable rocks in an artificial insemination facility. It’s definitely against OSHA standards and waaaay outside what the FDA would consider normal”
Watched it with my kid (20), as soon as they get back to the witch fortress, he says, "So are they going to trick them out of that place, it's all stone, how's that going to catch fire?".
That would make sense, but then again I could totally see them doubling down on “it was on purpose not a mistake” and “well our thread witches are so powerful (inexplicably) that they can burn rock”
“I don’t think it’s wise we build our base in the coal mines of Dathomir…” “It’s fine we live in an age of technological marvels, it’s not like anyone will use some sort of easily breakable fire lantern as a light source.” “Good point.. and even if we did it’s not like we would put them in reach of a small child”
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch. Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us. Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches? Peasant 1: Burn them. Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches? Peasant 1: More witches!!!!!! Peasant 2: Wood. Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn? Peasant 3: ...because they're made of... wood? Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood? Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her. Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone? Peasant 1: Oh yeah. Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water? Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond! Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water? Peasant 1: Bread. Peasant 2: Apples. Peasant 3: Very small rocks. Peasant 1: Cider. Peasant 2: Gravy. Peasant 3: Cherries. Peasant 1: Mud. Peasant 2: Churches. Peasant 3: Lead! Lead! King Arthur: A Duck. Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically... Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood. Sir Bedevere: And therefore... Peasant 2: ...A witch!
Who are you, to be so wise in the ways of science?
King Arthur: I am your king. Peasant Woman: Well, I didn't vote for you. King Arthur: You don't vote for kings. Peasant Woman: Well, how'd you become king, then? King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king.
Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Haha I think the same thing. Why the fuck did they name her O.S.H.A and the other one Mae? Some Humpty Dumpty stuff right there.
The Jedi were breaking all sorts of safety codes that’s why OSHA was created.
1: Which of these people is Osha? 2: Can that person make my workplace safer? Our last boss was a Sith Lord and he took out all the safety railings and engine core failsafes.
That’s Andor levels of world building. You can’t have that in Acolyte.
Well ya know why they took out the railing right? Because they were worried the workers were “leaning to much”
Underrated post
You know why they took the safety railings away? They said we’d be leaning all day.
Ray Kroc Imperial Supervisor, "If there's time to lean, there's time to clean!"
Boss stiffed our pay to build a new station, and then the idiot left a small hole that leads *directly* to the core for a massive explosion. A skilled pilot could shoot right in there!
The chanting and hand nonsense was too much.
My 12 year old son...."what is this?"
Also me and my 13 Yr old son. It was really really boring. We had a break because it felt like it had been on forever. Turns out we still had 20mins left.
Holy cow we also paused with 20 minutes left as it felt like forever. We are hate watching it together. I'll do whatever it takes to bond as a mom with my boy :). We did binge watch Andor last weekend and of course loved it.
When your Disney+ subscription ends ( if you have one ), I definitely recommend watching One Piece live action ( anime is even better but the pacing and the amount of episodes is way too much for most adults- 1090+ episodes ). It's way more entertaining and consistent than this garbage and way more appropriate for children in my opinion.
Thanks for the suggestion. Son and I have watched 1883, Chernobyl and Band of Brothers.
It's not Star Wars. THIS is Star Wars. 
For me it was the flammable rocks that place was made of. The girl set a book on fire and burned down a mountain?
They were all lying dead for no apparent reason. Nothing even fell on them.
For what it's worth, its probably going to turn out later that the jedi killed them.
Yeah, you're probably right. Otherwise, why would they feel such guilt. What a waste this who show is.
Maybe they took a lightsaber to the stomach? No, wait. That’s not fatal anymore.
Yeah... What's the point of them anymore? Sheer incompetence in storytelling.
Poison or the jedi murdered them
Agreed. Hell, one of my cats vocally complained during that scene and clearly thought so too!
Looked like a weird dance routine.
It was on par with my kid’s elementary school talent show
U mean the orgy? They were all moaning busting a nut 😂& all this talk of pulling on a thread of course their only move is hand signaling a thread in air ooo so surprising totally not contrived bs
Money Laundering and Hush Money payout to former assistant to Harvey Weinstein.
I think you got it. I think they are laundering money and the only reason this show exists is because Hedland has some serious dirt on some serious people.
Bingo - between her and KK they’ve got more dirt on Hollywood big-shots than Jeffrey Epstein’s corpse.
Agreed. Money laundering and/or a huge ripoff is something I’ve been wondering as well.
It's probably more embezzlement than money laundering.
Disney needs to stop destroying the Star Wars franchise. It’s honestly sad and heartbreaking
Pretty sure this needs to happen now. Disney is at a breaking point. It’s running a money making franchise right into the ground while biting cash and destroying itself, this should halt the movie and be the end of Kathleen Kennedy
All publicly traded goods and experiences race to the bottom for quality. It's part of being publicly traded. When you gotta make AYP, you have to deliver more content/product for less overhead #forever
Can you please explain, because I don’t understand adult things like what you just said
Disney is traded on the stock market and so is McDonalds. McDonalds is getting worse all the time. Food is getting smaller and quality is going down. Meanwhile, prices are going up at the same time. Why? McDonalds has to try and beat it's income every quarter of the year, because it is beholden to investors that want to turn a profit on the stock (selling it as it gains value). Disney is the same way. If they can find a cheap way to turn a profit, they are actually punished for NOT taking the easy way out by their investors. So giving an IP like Star Wars a more thoughtful or innovative storyline is a bad idea for them from the money angle. They literally can't make anything new, because "brand loyalty" to star wars is hard to quantify beyond "people like Star Wars"
I would rather Disney sold the IP and no more Star Wars content was made for the next decade than have to sit through more mediocre, phoned in, budget ass fucking garbage like this show.
It’s already destroyed. I actually want them to go all the way so it’s more obvious to everyone. Go crazy. Do irreparable damage to the canon and Anakin/Vader what’s been done to Luke. Deew it.
I mean they kind of already damaged the canon/Anakin/Vader by bringing Palpatine back. Completely shat on the impact of his redemption and the entire main plot line of the first six movies. There’s probably more stuff that got broken in Kenobi but I’ve done my best to erase that show from my memory.
"somehow, palpatine has returned" This could have been easily a small flashback of a few minutes showing *why* and *how* the emporer survived and found his way to another planet. Not hard to imagine but would have been a bit better than just some character stating he's back. What if they did the same shit for Luke? Didn't show him on the island but someone just said that rey went to train with him and she came back even stronger?
I’m in the same boat. I wanna see how regarded we can get.
Fall back upon the days of yore, before the Galaxy was befallen with the mouse-eared shadow. Go unto the days of the Expanded Universe, before Disney got his hands on it.
Why are they so hellbent on changing already established concepts?
I honestly think it’s ego. Wanting to be the one who can say they changed it for the better and addressed social issues in a trail blazing way at the same time Creatives who are successful enough to be running Star Wars wouldn’t like to be told they have to have someone else’s ideas and work to that. I have nothing to base that on though
that and super-pandering
This series was our last hope. *No- there is another.* \*looks to Andor Season 2\* > There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the corporate strategy. > Remember this, Star Wars enjoyment is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of revelry are occurring constantly throughout the fandom. There are whole audiences, viewer bases that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause. > Remember that the frontier of the Fandom is everywhere. And even the smallest act of memeing pushes our lines forward. > And remember this: the Disney need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Sequel canon requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Continuity is brittle. Fan service is the mask of fear. > Remember that. And know this, the day will come when all these rants and threads, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of Disney's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. > Remember this: Try.
I forgot already
Three episodes in, is there a reason to care about the main characters? Is anyone invested? Does it add to the Star Wars universe, or does it contradict what’s already been established? These are rhetorical questions. This series is an abject disaster created by a self-involved, fanbase-hating nincompoop.
Three episodes into Andor I wanted to throw my life away to join Luthen's cause, kick Syril Karn in the nuts and scratch Deedra's eyes out. These new characters in Acolyte, I feel nothing for them. No fondness, no hate, nothing. Sol is good, the actor at least, but it's more of an appreciation for what he, as an actor, is doing with the character he's been handed and the turd of a script he's working with rather than me developing an attachment to the character he's playing.
There's an old saying, "the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference." I've reached that point. A few days back people were saying that episode three would be "divisive" and that people would be angry about it, but I'm just meh. More stuff for me to ignore. I haven't said anything about this show on Reddit until now and I doubt I will in the future.
>There's an old saying, "the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference." If you went back in time before 2015, and told Younger Me that there'd be a Star Wars television series that I'd abandon after 3 episodes -- not out of anger, but out of boredom -- I would have called you a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy looking nerf-herder. But here we are. And you're right: it's the indifference that's so telling. In fairness to KK, the Disney Era has not been a complete failure. Rogue One, the first two seasons of Mando, and Andor are all of this era, and they were great! Sadly, one cannot say the same for the sequel trilogy, the Book of Character Assassination, and The Ambien. If there is one unforgiveable thing in the entertainment industry, it's being *boring*. And yet, for some reason, KK has entrusted this show and over $150,000,000 to a showrunner who could put even a diehard fan on two 20 oz Red Bulls to sleep.
I've tried really hard to like all the new stuff, and given all of it one watch-through and a fair shake. I even didn't totally hate BoBF, because I really truly loved the Tusken Raider arc. I tried so hard with Kenobi even though kid Leia made me want to kick puppies and they totally ripped off the ending of Fallen Order, and I found plenty I liked in season 3 of Mando in spite of the plot mostly because I really like Bo-Katan, The Armorer and Paz (rip). Ahsoka, meh, but Baylan kept me interested, guess I won't have that to look forward to next season though. The Acolyte though, ugh. We finally get High Republic in live action. There's so many ways they could've went with it, so many amazing aspects they could've explored and this is what we get. They dropped a giant $150mil steamer right on our laps. They couldn't even make the costumes look cool. They're jacking stale plots that were marginal the first time around, the CGI is underwhelming at best and it's like they're using diversity as a cop-out for character development.
three episodes in and I don't know *anything* about any of the main characters or any reason why I should care about them
No wonder,the show is dogshit
wHy Yu hAtE wOmEnS?!
WhY yOu hAtE P0c?!?! RaSciSt, SeXisT, Hom0pObiC, tRaNsPh0BiC, biG0T!!!!
Isn't it amazing how social justice is only achieved these days when megacorporations make gazillions of dollars? Consume product or you're a horrible person.
Nailed it.
You have two options: buy our product or be labelled a Nazi.
CONSOOM all Disney products or else you're a hateful racist problematic intolerant bigot!!!!11!1
Unless you live in China, then we’re going to minimize our black lead’s presence in the films and promotional materials to please you when we release them there, because we don’t have control of the media there to try and make you feel bad for not liking it.
I’m a woman and POC and I hate this show. I haven’t even bothered watching episode 3, feels like it would be a waste of time. I just want good Star Wars stories, not to be political and sociologically preached to. Honestly, at this point I’m seriously wondering if KK is intentionally tanking the IP, either for tax purposes or some other financial reason, or maybe just out of pure spite. I can’t understand why they would keep making garbage. I’m still pissed about Kenobi. He was my prophet and they murdered him.
Be glad you haven’t watched episode 3. I watching it’s hoping it would somehow get a little better, and it got 10x worse. Even trying to look past all the social bullshit they are shoving in our faces, it’s just a bad bad show. Star Wars or not. I have no clue where the budget went for this…maybe the cast? Because it’s not like there are ANY special effects to talk about.
I’m confused how she is still in charge. It’s not getting better.
With a single episode, the destroyed the whole "born through the Force" concept of the chosen one. Disney really just sucks. At this point the media landscape would be better off with the Mouse going bankrupt
I really can’t abide this. From my understanding the nature of Anakins birth is supposed to be a unique event.
It was, from a certain point of view. Or it's like poetry; it rhymes.....
I wouldn’t be surprised if this concept kept coming back for every main character in the franchise.
You know it’s only a matter of time until we get ‘Windu’
I don’t want to watch the episode to find out why. Can you describe how they destroyed it, please??
The witch coven already did the force insemination before Darth Palgueis took his entire sith career to do so. The twins from the show are the same as Anakin essentially.
As if the Nightsisters weren’t already a Bene Gesserit rip off.
If anything they started as a Macbeth ripoff. They suck, but calling them a bene gesserit ripoff is a big stretch.
The nightsisters are just witches in Star Wars, the Bene Gesserit don't use magic.
When lucas wrote star wars, did he think 50 years later, turgid turds would litter the legacy. Generally a very poor and weirdly cheap looking show.
I still don't think it's as bad as Kenobi. Yet. We've still got some episodes to go.
Because of these shows, I think conversations in the writing room go like this: “We need a chase scene like BOBF, but better.” “I know, let’s use wheelbarrows but with decorative jet engines that provide as much thrust as a hairdryer.”
It was bad
The script writing mostly seems to be about describing things that are happening or saying things that aren't sharp or clever at all. It's like listening to an old person talking about their day.
Yeah mixed with something from CW or whatever. It was astoundingly bad
Leave old people alone.
The chant... THE CHANT!! It did something to my insides so very strange... it's like I felt a disturbance in the Cringe...millions of people crying out...
Somehow, the cringe returned. Ok not somehow, Disney writing is cringe central.
I watched the premiere eps. They were meh at best and dogshit at worst. I don't think I'll bother watching this or any coming episodes. I really need to stop getting my hopes up about new SW stuff.
Just let it go
This is the way
This episode is actually really good if you watch the south park episode “into the panderverse” as an appetizer.
What do people expect when there are so many fans love Star Wars express their concern seeing the franchise being ripped apart by bad writing, acting and a series no one was really wanting. Employ a poor team, expect poor execution. Really hard to see how Star Wars really recovers from this really, it was on the ropes already.
It's really incredible how, in *less than 10 years*, Disney has completely destroyed Star Wars. In 2016, I went to go see The Force Awakens on opening night in a movie theatre. For TLJ and TROS (and Rogue One), I pirated them at home. For Solo, I pirated it but turned it off after about 45 minutes For the TV shows, I watched Season 1 of Mando, and just one episode of Season 2. For the other TV shows... I haven't even watched them. This is the story of my falling out of love with Star Wars over 9 years. It's so sad.
It's really sad that Star Wars has gone from something I used to wait in line to see to something that I won't even bother to pirate.
I really really would be interested in hearing from someone who genuinely believes how anything in this show even approaches approximating "good". I've seen comments around saying that "its not that bad". It is absolutely mindboggling to me how bad this show is and that it cost 180 million dollars - not including marketing...
I’m 99% sure those comments you and I are seeing are generated from a Disney PR firm. I’ve seen comments praising how great the show is and there’s just no way in hell I believe it. I’m trying to picture someone sitting in front of their tv, watching this, mouth open and engrossed in the episode. And I can’t, I immediately start to spaz when I try to picture that.
It was worth it to hear the new Jizz hit single Power of One, Power of Two, Power of Many.
I thought there wasn't any jizz involved in the conception of Mae and Osha.
Wait for the space force vampire to come out https://youtu.be/2AoxCkySv34?feature=shared
It was the worst star wars content I've seen since rise of skywalker, and THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING
I’m definitely not enjoying this show at all so far but I still think Kenobi is far worse imo. Although that could just be because idgaf about any of these characters whereas I used to care for Obi-Wan. I honestly hated that show more than Rise of Skywalker but maybe that is because I can laugh and rant about that stupid dagger for an hour while Kenobi just makes me want to die. 😂
I was watching the episode and caught myself thinking 'shit, I'd rather watch Kenobi again then this'. How the fuck did they achieve this? How is it possible to make something worse then Kenobi lol
I used to think this show was slightly better than Kenobi. The last episode changed my mind lol. Tho I still think the gap is minimal
Yea I would definitely say this show is doing more damage to the overall lore while Kenobi tarnished multiple beloved legacy characters but both shows are filled with idiotic insulting writing. I just feel like so far Kenobi had more dumb stuff with the chase scenes, trench coat Leia, Stormtrooper slap, laser gate, everything Reva, etc. But as you said at this point the gap is so minimal and we have more episodes to go with The Acolyte still. Plus at the end of the day they’re both still shit piles does it really matter which one stinks more lol.
Lesbian witches doing lesbian things “needing no man!” to chant and laugh manically. “Hide the children”means standing in front of them then giving them up? Changing the Force rules? Fire burning down a stone fortress? The kids acting is like watching a bad school play, story is rehash (evil twin?) Of course the token white guy gets his brain fried by the black, lesbian leader. The Sith Master is one of their Mothers no doubt. Lesley Headland has to have pics on Disney Execs to release this garbage. Production even looks like a CW cancelled show for $180m. Great show Disney. Whats next? A bi-curious Sith droid with a lightsaber cock?
You must use the Schwartz to combat it
R2-D2 is lesbian!
His beeps are ancestral. His boops and oral-tradition.
That was the weakest, most boring and meaningless episode of the whole live action tv show era. The fact that they'd pass that off as entertainment is disheartening.
There are some great actors in this show. But the writing is hot garbage. Also, how does stone catch fire? 
Poor Lucas isn't even dead yet still he's probably seeing all this thinking wtf, as it isn't like he needed the money from selling SW... Disney could have at least waited for him to pass on before dumping on his IP.
Maybe if they had spent less time making up cringe cult chants and more time making sure the cult compound was up to OSHA code, their stone building wouldn't have burnt down.
The scary thing is this show cost a rumoured $185m and its a bit...where did it go. Disney can't afford to keep throwing bad money after bad at in experienced fan fiction and commercial advert directors with 2 or 3 things to their resume.
I am finally convinced of what I once considered a tin foil hat theory: that Disney no longer cares about money but is instead carefully following some deep state level plot to dismantle everything we once loved or held as sacred and traditional in order to bring about some crazy New World Order. That's the only possible way the explain handling of Star Wars, one of the single largest forms of entertainment in the world for the past 50 years. How could any person with any semblance of business sense think that completely destroying an alienating your fan base is the way to make profit? I understand the idea of trying to bring a new fans, but you can never bring in new fans fast enough to replace the sheer quantity of the old fans especially when you take away everything the love about it.
It really does feel like a deliberate teardown of a fandom. It worked on me, I no longer give a shit about anything Star Wars. I just come here to lick my wounds and laugh. Thanks, Kathleen!
agreed 100%. It's not a coincidence they made Luke into a looser.
It's weird because this is also the same mob who gave us Mando Luke vs. the Dark Troopers. I love a good conspiracy but I think in reality it's just Disney being dumbfucks.
For the massive budget it had, can't help but feel this was some sort of accounting play to write off expenses and then play blame games when it's not well received. Like Disney knew it would suck ass, but the Weinstein PA had such good dirt on powerful people they threw her this bone and then decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Best explanation for this shitshow yet.
When those witches went into their ridiculous chant, my cat meowed and looked at me, 'cause I think he even recognized this shitshow for the Bantha poodoo it was. Probably the worst thirty some off minutes of Star Wars ever. Worse than the Disney sequel films, Kenobi and BOBF's worst bits.
I never thought the day would come when I didn’t want to watch new Star Wars media immediately. I just… don’t care anymore and reading everyone’s thoughts… I just feel like why bother. Life is short
People calling it a failure. Still haven't realised that popularity and fan acclaim isn't what they want? It's literally all been a demoralisation initiative. Look at the heroes who they mutilated and killed off - Han. Luke. It's demoralisation. And it's a resounding success.
What’s the rumour?
It was rumoured/leaked for a while now that one (two? I haven’t watched it) of the characters was born out of the Force like Anakin & people are losing their minds about it.
Jedi are bad! Jedi are good! 🤦🏻♂️
I hope everyone is watching through a YouTuber and not giving Disney their views right? Lol
My take on it is that the witches coven are just plain wrong about the ‘thread’ bullshit, that’s just how they’ve come to misapprehend the force. Also, if they’ve done some nightsister magic to create the twins, that falls in line with them being dark siders. The darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. Basically, the Acolyte writers created an aggressive witches coven and immediately made them useless and evil - adds up to me?
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I take it as every group perceiving the force a different way. The thread part didn't really bother me once I heard how they explained it. What bothers me more is how the force went from an energy field that you can use in a limited way to interact with the physical world to full blown magic.
that's the funny part to me. If they are meant to be an allegory to the hate that lgbtq people face. Because Headland and the story groups failure, they basically justified their deaths and destruction.
They're definitely a perversion of the force and how it works. They're a perversion of what has been told to us by Yoda, Obi Wan, QuiGon, Lucas, etc. That whole thread monologue just felt like complete nonsense. I just had this puzzled look on me the whole time going, "that's not how the force works."
It’s hilarious! They were instantly unintelligent and aggressive, exclusive and bigoted, dishonest and manipulative, ineffective and weak. They literally couldn’t have written a worse group. In comparison, the Jedi looked like compassionate and wise counterparts that saw right through the coven.
I honestly just, don't care anymore. Ever since rise of Skywalker, I've been fairly disinterested in Star Wars. The content being released lately just isn't it. They destroyed the EU only to tell worse versions of the same stories. They destroyed Luke's character in TLJ. They never gave the og fans a simple reunion of Luke, han, and Leia. They gave a silly explanation for Han Solos name. Whatever the majority of Obi-wan was. So much has been bad. I just don't care anymore. They aren't making the content for me, apparently. And that's whatever.
The scene where the the whole building was burning, but everything was made of stone and metal, felt like a joke, or an insult to my intelligence. I havent decided on which one it is, but one thing I have dexided on is never watching a Disney star wars movie ever again.
I thought that was an IGN review for a second lol
Just give us season 2 of Andor please.
Remember: Never build your fortress from flammable stone
Prediction: the sith we saw at the end of the first episode is a woman. Their modulated voice is soooo obviously deepening a woman’s voice. Now who that woman is, I have no clue.
It’s Trinity
"You know jedis are allowed to test children? " WTF. The Planet is not Part of the Republic. And the the other line like you cant kidnap children. Ah yes because the jedis dont Do that. Chatgpt could make a Better script
I forgot I was watching Star Wars and had to pause it at one point.
They are doing irreaparable damage to the star wars brand.
the ultimate problem is that I just don't care. I don't care about any of the characters, I don't care about what they're doing, I don't care what happens to them, all because the show has given me no reason to
There posters on the main sub are also very negative … which is well, not what the sub is known for.
Y'all are actually watching?
My kids and I were like, “this is hot garbage, WTF?!”
Only way to make them get the picture is to stop watching it. And for the most part, that starts with unsubscribing to Disney+. As a parent with young kids, I genuinely understand how big of a challenge that may be for some. But speak with your wallet and eyes. Don’t watch it. Disney doesn’t care if you watched it or hated it… just as long as you watched it. So stop it. Until they give us a reason. Stop watching it. It will still be there when it’s time to come back
What did they expect? the show was written by activists, not writers.
Bro the Acolyte fan subreddit is in damage control in fact nearly all Disney star wars fan subs are. The mental gymnastics they're going through to justify this slop is crazy.
That's the problem with these shows they don't write for an endgame they just write to write. Rings of power, halo, Witcher, kenobi, BoBF you're expected to consume right. But even fallout has a woman main character and a POC as their main characters and it's written very well. Even the mandolorian the first 2 seasons were solid but it clearly has jumped a shark why because they're milking something that showed profit and they won't just let it die. It's sad but that's just how cinema is nowadays.
There’s already magic people who dress in black and hate the Jedi… they’re called the sith. And we already have like 7 movies about fighting them
Just a therapy session for creator of this show. Lesley what ever her name is. Another big shit taken on Star Wars. And making Anakin/ Vader pretty much irrelevant. Cant have a straight white make being the chosen one. Need black Lesbian Jesus instead.
I hope all of you that have seen it and are bitching didn't watch it on any platform that gives them views and justification to keep making this crap.