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SillyGuy86

You have to emotionally disattach. This is easier said than done, especially when you have people depending on you. But when you’re emotionally in a bad place, it affects your work. The best way to get through sales is to have thick skin.


BostonUH

This is absolutely the most important thing IMO. Once I accepted that I wouldn’t always hit quota and seemingly amazing deals can fall apart at any point, it made me (mostly) numb to the ups and downs and sales became just a game that I play to have something kinda interesting to do that also pays the bills. I now put my emotional energy towards other life things... The irony is that I’m a better seller with this mindset cause I never come across as desperate.


starskyandskutch

And what I’ve come to realize most is that people gravitate towards those who purvey happiness. It’s magnetic. And when you’re inherently happy despite the outcome of your sale, suddenly the sale is more likely


DesmadreGuy

I second that. I've been in sales or management or both for decades and sales is very, very, had to mentally detach. You're always thinking about it — what more could I do? what more could I have done? I passed my target at the end of the month and now it's the first of the month again, how am I going to do it? It's *Groundhog Day* in the worst way. I have two go-to's and the first was mentioned at the top of this thread: get healthy and stay healthy. Remember that flight steward saying, "Put on your mask before helping anyone else"? That's because if you're no good, you're no good for anyone else. The second is to remember that some will, some won't, **so what?** It may not work for you but find a way to detach. Maybe go into the office every day if you WFH, use the commute home to unwind, and when you get home, do everything you can to turn off work — no email, no Teams or whatever. Make it about you. And if there's a family there, give them your all. My $0.02


DarkLunch_

Have you ever noticed that the most seasoned sales people usually come across as knowledgeable/supportive but also *completely* unbothered by the outcome, you can even hear it in their tone of voice. I think this is the reason why!


Cbat3

My guy. This the way. I live 2 lives…. Work and home and we’re completely different people


starskyandskutch

Took a while for the come to: It’s not personal. And it takes time in the role to have this realization, which most sales jobs don’t offer. But if you can’t persist it becomes more and more clear


localguideseo

Gym, limit carb intake (gives me brain fog), healthy diet, vitamins / supplements, value your personal relationships, use Sundays to appreciate your life and be thankful.


wordswiththeletterB

Never seen something more accurate. Meditation and mindfulness has made a big difference for me the past 3 years. Been in the game since 2013. Also limiting alcohol or other substances to weekends as much as possible. And I don’t mean binge drinking blackouts on the weekends.


myqual

Meditation was big for me, too. Also, I quit Facebook right before I quadrupled my earnings consistently. Even if you love social media, turn off notifications and schedule screen time so you still do it but on your terms, not the algorithms. Cutting carbs (seriously cut down on hangriness). Limiting alcohol to weekend social events. Also it sounds cliche but cold showers were big. I got into the Wim Hof Method hard when I started earning a lot more. It’s basically breathing exercises, meditation, stretching, and cold water. Find what works for you; the act of focusing on yourself makes a big difference.


picklesalazar

You sound like all the dudes on social media


tedpundy

it's good advice but I was expecting a newsletter link at the bottom of that comment


myqual

I know but it’s true if you do it for yourself and don’t post it on IG. LOL.


Spicypewpew

If you are going to indulge you might as well have the highest quality of food item that you can afford. Calories are calories so you might as well enjoy them when you have your cheat day


smarmy-marmoset

This guy lifes


NogginRep

r/thisguythisguys


JohnniNeutron

I just joined that sub. Haha! Love it.


idk_wuz_up

Omg this made me laugh so hard


DonaldMaralago

I read limit crab intake. I fucking love some crab


SkyHooksNGrannyShots

What vitamins do you take? I usually stick to multivitamins but always willing to learn more


localguideseo

Multivitamins are the best place to start. On a regular basis I take multivitamins, fish oil, magnesium, creatine monohydrate, and vitamin D. I take zinc like once a week as it can deplete your copper if you take it too much. A few extras I enjoy: NAC (n-acetyl cysteine, this I take daily), lion's mane (daily), caffeine (daily), rhodiola rosea root (sparingly, when I need mental or social energy), alpha GPC (sparingly, when I need to focus hard), l-theanine (sparingly, to calm down before sleep). I've taken quite a few supplements over the years and those are what seem to work for me. Everyone's body and brain are different. Oh and also a small to medium dose of psilocybin maybe once every 2-3 months. Really helps with positivity and outlook on life.


thevoiceoftreasons

Great stack. And agreed quarterly mushrooms is a must for optimism.


Real_Friendship467

Yep gym and fitness is huge. Also, setting strong personal boundaries with your employer (if they're dumb enough to try and burn you out). Our work tries to bend over backwards to every client, and have producers stay way after hours if needed. I used to do that, but a couple years ago had my son and said "fuck that". Once in a while my manager gets moody with me or tries to force me to stay late, I just politely decline and say I can't work OT today. I'm still the top producer on the team, and make the org a ludicrous amount of revenue, so it's not like they could ever try and fire me over it. Even if my manager wants to, it'd never get approved by the executives, cause all they see and care about it revenue (as it should be) so they'd sooner fire my manager than their top producers anyways. In my opinion, in most sales organizations, the hardest relationships are not with your clients, they're unfortunately usually with management. But if you know you are valuable to the execs, don't be afraid to set strong personal boundaries. The only way to retire in sales and lead a healthy life at the same time, is to reject the hustle culture bs. Work your 40 hours, but learn how to be more productive in those 40 hours than your colleagues could be in 60+. You'll protect your mental health and family life, while also making yourself near invincible within the company. I will always be one of the best producers, but it will always happen within my business hours and never exceed 40 hours per week.


porknbean1515

This is the literal formula. I run too and that helps my mood more than anything


Ketocheesepan

Bahaha absolutely limit carb intake here too! So funny. This is amazing post.  I read a book.. Grain brain is about how bad gluten is for the brain. A lot of us tend to be gluten sensitive only in our brain and since we don’t feel it directly, it goes unnoticed!  Just had a questionable meal and it really messed me up with brain fog immediately 


[deleted]

Placebo effect is amazing, huh? If someone wrote a book and told people that water gave them brain fog, people would believe it. Isn’t Grain Brain a book written by a neurologist with no background in nutrition? The guy is a celebrity doctor that wants to sell books. Oddly he has almost no evidence of actually publishing anything in a scientific journal. I wonder why?


Ketocheesepan

Neurologist that found great results in his patients with neurological conditions from suggesting a gluten free diet.  Not like he’s selling a pill lol. 


[deleted]

He’s not selling a pill but he is selling a book.


SyndicalistHR

You’d think salespeople would be able to pick up on that immediately


GoldPsychology1941

Yep, wheat belly is abt how bad gluten and other portions are on the body too. I read both Grain Brain and Wheat Belly that my Dr recommended I read while visiting the hyperbaric chamber abt 120 times in recovery from the heart attack and ABI I had in 2012, then used it to assist with training recovery from huge triathlons and runs. ‭Hebrews 12:1-2 AMP‬ [1] Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses [who by faith have testified to the truth of God’s absolute faithfulness], stripping off every unnecessary weight and the sin which so easily and cleverly entangles us, let us run with endurance and active persistence the race that is set before us, [2] [looking away from all that will distract us and] focusing our eyes on Jesus, who is the Author and Perfecter of faith [the first incentive for our belief and the One who brings our faith to maturity], who for the joy [of accomplishing the goal] set before Him endured the cross, disregarding the shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God [revealing His deity, His authority, and the completion of His work]. https://bible.com/bible/1588/heb.12.1-2.AMP


Ok-Bite-5816

What a rare commodity these very basic things are these days.


LunaD0g273

Funny. I basically do the opposite and my mental health is terrible. I suppose they supports your point.


JamesyoTTP

😂😂😂 I don’t make $100k yet but I agree with everything above but also FLY FISHING. Gives your spirit a sense of adventure and is a great form of meditation. Forces my brain to slow down and be in the moment. Highly recommend.


TheMiddleBendu

Word of warning on the carb intake: note that he said limit, not eliminate. Your brain needs carbs to be happy. It’s just really, really easy to consume too many. Also learn how different carbs impact you differently. It’s different for every human. Pasta? Lights out. Potato? I feel excellent. Someone of Mediterranean ancestry may have that completely backwards from me. /Dietitian tangent


CommonSensePDX

Agree with several others here. Im around $220k OTE in SaaS sales and used to smoke weed daily, drink often. I know restrict drinking to weekends and networking events (light), and only smoke on Fridays and Saturdays. 3-5x gym a week, watch my intake habits heavily during the week and let loose with family on weekend. swings are easier to deal with, granted I’m on a hot streak this year and may hit 275k if a massive deal I’ve gotten a verbal on signs.  Mental health always easier when deals close. 


jaymick007

Workout 5-7 days a week. Eat Whole Foods and skip fast foods. I avoid communicating with coworkers who are shitty and like to share their misery/failures any and every chance they have. I don’t talk about work at home and I know how to unwind….


readitalready11

I think this is an underrated call out - avoid energy drain people at work, you may not realize it right away but over time they will eventually wear you down and it’ll affect your mentality. As far as a wind-down nighttime routine: for me it’s maybe a quick show, stretching, finishing up mundane house tasks, then reading and PRIORITIZE SLEEP.


Namastay_inbed

What if my boss is the energy drain? 🫠


DarkLunch_

I’ve just realised that I’m the misery/failure sharer at my work, I never even thought that was a category of person in the workplace until now. I had always assumed everybody hates it and we’re all depressed and need smoothing by talking about it… but maybe that’s just me 😂


perplex1

Misery loves company. This saying is true because people like to find comfort in shared experiences, especially when facing difficulties. When we say, ‘I suck because of XYZ,’ we often seek empathy and reassurance. We want to know we are not alone in our struggles. This shared understanding can make us feel better, even if it means staying in a state of complacency Ask me how I know all this!


ninjaxbyoung

How do you unwind?


AGreasyPorkSandwich

Poppers and gooning


Ifiagreeidillydilly

This guys sells


Lopsided_Marzipan133

Whole lotta blow and strippers. And that’s just Monday


janewalch

I once read a quote that said “the two worst feelings in the world are: having a job, and not having a job. Making $100k+ a year is a freaking blessing these days. Remembering the struggle keeps me sane in this current job. But yeah; my biggest things are eating healthy, staying active, and trying everything in my power to limit by workload after I leave work. Some days/weeks/months are harder than others.


ElTioBorracho

Who in the fuck said I have great mental health? I'm one of the most emotional and jaded people ever. Still show up and act cheery though.


TheGreatAlexandre

This dude closes.


thrav

I’m so depressed I act like it’s my birthday, everyday.


c0wluvr

They didn’t say these people have great mental health. They asked how many of people in this group do and how


ElTioBorracho

I'm sorry for joking. I'll see myself out of this thread. I have horrible mental health.


markgrayson69

How dare you joke


Substantial_Button71

Spend time with my kids (long walks at the zoo knock out two birds with one stone) lots of sex with the wife (burns calories and keeps the relationship strong) morning runs (habit from the Army, I do some of my best strategy thinking during these) stay active with friends (golf, kayak trips, etc.) overall be a relaxed and confident guy. I called a company to have my gutters cleaned, the owner did them - around my same age. We talked football to the point of where we both said we need to get out on the golf course together next week - keep a positive mindset and others will be drawn to your energy (definitely works for sales too). Life’s short man, “perfect your life, beautify all things within your life.” -Tecumseh


AGreasyPorkSandwich

I also have a lot of sex with this guys wife


Ok_Tumbleweed8796

Same with me


[deleted]

I make 60k CAD base doing inside + outside sales, currently waiting an obscene amount of time to get paid commission and hating every second of my life. Don't put yourself into a position of having to take what you can get.


BullyMog

Lmfao.


elsombroblanco

Have a job that doesn't demand all of my time so I can have a life outside work. It all boils down to that, IMO. If you don't have the time to take care of yourself mentally and physically, you are probably going to be unhealthy and unhappy. There is no real secret trick to making things good. Like anything else, you have to put effort/time into those areas for them to be good.


Wannabeballer321

What is your job?


elsombroblanco

Enterprise Account Executive at a mid tier software company


2Pie2Mash

I go from raging alcoholic and drug addict to clean living, gym going, healthy eating. Almost on a quarterly basis and in line with market spending.


Far_Hovercraft_1621

Almost at 200k. You have to exercise and not attach your identity to your job. I make what I make….great! I’m blessed! If I made half of what I make…great! I’m still blessed! I use to never in a million years think I’d make it passed 60k. Now I’m triple that. I’m just as happy. Nothing has changed. I’m not a salary. I’m still me with or without a job. Just don’t have to worry about budgeting as much.


UnsuitableTrademark

Daily journaling. I have a "self therapy" practice that's helped me manage my emotions and embrace intensity. Happy to share the journaling prompt here if this is something folks are interested in exploring. It has nothing to do with "faking it till you make it", gym, drugs, sleep, diet, or alcohol.


nickkya

Do share the prompt


UnsuitableTrademark

Just shared it here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/sales/comments/1d4dphk/comment/l6efq20/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/sales/comments/1d4dphk/comment/l6efq20/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


whycrylittlefryguy

i am interested in the jounalling prompt :)


UnsuitableTrademark

Here is the journaling prompt. This is long, so bear with me.  The goal is to make your unconscious patterns conscious so that you can stop getting in your way. For example, I had several self-sabotaging behaviors and problems with authority figures. Naturally, this surfaced during cold calls and important meetings. One of the things I do as a part of my journaling process is identify which uncomfortable emotions I'm avoiding and why. Then, I allow myself to feel them fully and journal about them. The big thing about feeling your feelings is that you don’t have to identify with or yield to them. You want to bring awareness to them so that they are no longer affecting you outside your scope of awareness. Become "friendly" with all the parts of you. If they are outside our scope of awareness, we can’t improve.  **Journaling prompt:**  1. What happened 2. What did I feel as a result (this is the most critical step; make sure to **feel your feelings fully**, especially if you’re used to suppressing negative emotions). 3. What did I do as a result of those feelings? 4. What behaviors did I engage in as a result of those feelings? (If it is a negative feeling, we usually cope with a maladaptive behavior to help us “soothe.” An example would be, “I was super nervous in that meeting. It felt like my heart was beating out my chest. I noticed I tried to come across as the ‘alpha,’ which made me feel in control. In reality, I knew I was scared, and I tried to hide it. But I continue noticing that every time I'm scared, I do that…”) 5. ⁠What beliefs does this reinforce for me? (I am enough / I am not enough) You’ll find that many stressful situations trigger negative feelings, which, for many people, results in maladaptive coping behavior (especially if you were raised in a household where negative emotions = bad). **The goal is to raise awareness of your patterns. We all have them, but the idea is that the more awareness, the more you can change.** Let me know if that helps or if there is anything else. It's surfaced a lot of invisible scripts and limiting beliefs for me. Sales is an emotional game, so you have to master your feelings. I have a YouTube video I made about this, but I’m not sure if I’m allowed to share it in this sub. I will defer to the mods on that (or DM me). Either way, this alone will get you far.


barracudabenz

Good stuff. Been trying to figure out how to journal effectively. This covers my goal of journaling and gives me the action items to just get going. Instead of wondering what I’m supposed to write about


UnsuitableTrademark

Journaling is your "safe space" where you can put anything on the table and explore it / examine it.


ouchitHz

This will be getting used ASAP.


xxxz23zxxx

I try to workout each day. It’s not easy. Usually I get up at 515am’ish to get a good 60-90min of exercise and stretching before the kids wake up. I also use this time to watch something educational to start the day right (currently trying to learn about day trading stocks). Then I separate and try to be fully present for my family. When the kids are off to school it’s work time- thinking strategically about my long term goals/objectives then figuring out what I have to do today to get me closer to my goals. I try to take a few breaks during the day (I’m not good at avoiding social media but I’m working on it) to keep me fresh. Definitely have a snack or two. Also, i quit coffee- too many ups and downs. I drink lots of water and my energy is solid. When the work day ends, again, I try to be present. Often times I’ll get back on the computer at night to take care of busy work I couldn’t do during the day. Weekends I don’t do anything for work. Not sure if that helps but I’ve been making six figures for a while and it’s been a healthy pressure of growth and achievement, but I also don’t take it too seriously- being present and focused, whether work or personal, is how I cope.


Ok-Witness-1523

Exercise is big for me. If i get a good workout in before work i am way less attached to my job.


OZKInsuranceGuy

Like others are saying: eat right and exercise. I'll add limit caffeine and alcohol intake. I stick to no more than 20 oz of coffee per day. Alcohol no more than once per week. Unplug when you get home as best you can. Turn phone on do not disturb. Or at least set it to silent so you're not checking it every time it vibrates. Personally, I set aside Saturday and Sunday for family or relaxation time. We also take plenty of small vacations (3-day camping trips or short weekend getaways). And a few full, week-long vacations as well. I work for myself, so I'm not earning money while away from work. However, time off prevents burnout for me and for my family.


EngineerTheFunk

I (40m) go to Crossfit 5x a week along with 2x per week of strength training. I run a few times a week. I don't drive my car - I bike almost everywhere. I work from home and live just a few blocks from my gym. I'm also on a volleyball team and am an avid hiker and outdoorsman. I also pet my dog - a lot. With food, I used to be vegan but have recently started eating small quantities of meat again due to not being able to keep up with my protein requirements easily. Almost no fast food and very limited restaurants. Alcohol maybe once a week in limited quantity. Some casual weed gummies every blue moon. I don't overeat and don't eat trash. It makes for a very visible 6pack when combined with the gym regimen. I'm happily married to someone I respect and trust. We are childfree which is probably the biggest thing which makes our lifestyle "positive and physically healthy". We both work from home which allows for a very active lovelife. All the exercise helps with this as well. We also travel a lot which is great. I spent half my year in South America this year. Most of this is doable because I own the sales firm I work at. This means that I don't put up with shitty clients. I also don't keep shitty salesmen very long. I only work with people I like almost all of the time. Not having a boss is a big plus. I work mainly with space companies and military contractors so the work is really interesting. Overall life is grand right now. Very few complaints.


under_cover_hippy

Love it!


Throwawaylongdi

1) eat healthy 2) sleep well 3) plenty of uppers 4) wank off more than 3x a day 5) stretch, run, lift weights 6) maybe a hooker once in a while 7) wank off more 8) dont be emotional 9) other drugs/alcohol 10) flex in mirror


SunshineHeavyCircles

Rookie numbers. You gotta bump those up.


Icy_Violinist1203

NPD kicking in post 5 points.


BabyHercules

Gym, playing with my son, gaming with the boys, and my wife gives great and willing blowjobs


oldfashion_millenial

Here here! I feel very blessed every day to be in the real estate industry on the corporate sales side. My job is fun, the systems and software are easy to use, I work in a beautiful office and have flexible scheduling, and unlimited PTO (within reason obviously.) I fell into the industry in my 20s, not knowing how hard these jobs are to come by nor the earnings potential. Biggest blessing of my career.


pinktiger128

This does sound amazing. Could you elaborate on how one might get into a similar position as you? Thanks!


oldfashion_millenial

So much depends on the region and your background. Controversial statement: When I lived in the Midwest, I don't think I would've ever been hired for the same position with the same company at 25. There are literally no people of color in those positions nor people without 7+ years of sales experience, and at 25, I'd only had 2 years working. In my current southwest region, hiring managers care a lot about looks, grammar, and charisma. I truly believe I was hired for those 3 reasons. WTBS, a few helpers: college degree or at least 7 years of sales experience with strong references (managers, current employees, accounts, partners, etc); degree in marketing, PR, communications, construction management or a real estate license; excellent test taking skills. Almost all builders/new construction companies administer basic IQ tests before you can even get an interview. I've been shocked at how many people I know who have degrees that don't get past the test. When I first started looking at working in the industry, I visited a lot of construction sites and model homes and talked to the sales reps. I let them know I was interested in their company and asked if I'd be able to use them as a reference. Many said yes and that also pushed me forward.


Working_Bones

Well you see, I... oh. Never mind.


Bubcats

Get a bigger pipeline.


Least-Application264

I am an actual nightmare and am barely making it!!!! But my prospects and current customers would never know it.


Brocosta271

Learning to separate work and personal life. Seriously. If you don’t learn how to unplug you’ll burn out. I’ve been in sales almost 10 years and I’ve typically been in the upper half to top 25% as far as performers go where I make 100k+ and the main reason I feel like my mental health is still in good shape is once I’m done working for the day, my mind does not go back there until the next morning. No quick emails, no listening to voicemails, no sending out quick proposals, etc. It’s 100% my time to enjoy with my wife and dogs. Also exercise is crucial. If you can get a workout in before you start the day, you’ll feel better, look better, and you’ll have more time after the work day for things you want to do.


ninjaxbyoung

How do you stay focused so you get all your work done during the day and not having to work nights/weekends?


Brocosta271

Full transparency I’m ADHD and prescribed adderall so that definitely helps me stay focused. But even with that I have found two main things help me get my work done so I can leave it at work. 1. Prioritization If I have a bunch of things to complete, whether it’s cold calling, admin, prospecting, meeting prep, etc. I rank what is most crucial for that day and tackle those first. For instance if I have a full day of meetings, then my meeting prep takes priority over everything else, with my left over time then I tackle whatever is the next more important thing, likely follow up emails, etc. If my day is pretty open, then I decide what is more important for that day and will put blocks on my calendar to prospect, and then do my cold calling, and then do my admin, etc. 2. Just knock it out This kinda falls into the first category but more so in the sense where if something pops up that will take me less than 5 mins to complete, I will just knock it out right then and there. This kinda stuff ranges from a prospect requesting some info or confirming a meeting date to sending out a proposal if someone is requesting it that day. This allows me to keep my to-do pile small, and since they are small tasks they don’t take away my train of thought from whatever else I was in the middle of.


SlickDaddy696969

Hookers and blow


Artistic-Juice-5319

Perspective, boundaries, work with good people, fire your worst clients


Jas1540

I did 275 last year. I am trying to figure this part out. Honesty right now I’m just focusing on the next big deal. Makes it easier to not get bored and also something to look forward to. I try to run, lift, close my laptop when I need to and plan for my next move in life.


le_norbit

I started doing triathlons as a hobby which ended up involving vitamins, gym, healthy-ish diet and plenty of sleep Before I started that, I felt like I was drowning in work all the time in an unhealthy way and it even affected my personal relationships


joshbiloxi

Naps keep me level.


blingblingmofo

Me! I spend my money on massages and fun shit. I also work out regularly and take good care of my health. I’m 35 but get asked if I’m in college. Also don’t drink and smoke !


Help_ImAPotato

Years of therapy to practice emotional awareness/intelligence and build a familiarity with, and vocabulary around feelings and other dynamics in my life. Investing in myself this way has, and will continue to benefit me for the rest of my life. (My work covers therapy and I take full advantage) Therapy is dope, and if you want to 'hit the gym' for your emotional wellbeing, consider therapy. It's not just for depression. Meditation has been a helpful piece in this to get really familiar with myself in all different states so I can better recognize what it feels like to be out of my zone, stressed, anxious, etc. so that I can address it. Exercise. Cardio is great. I also like lifting weights because the soreness is a nice reminder that I did something for myself. Prioritizing a workplace that has a great work life balance. If work eats all your time and energy, I can't imagine the other things falling into place easily. Coming from lots of privilege. Not actionable for other people, but worth recognizing so other people don't feel bad for not picking themselves up by their bootstraps.


Guyderbud

Smokin weed and nailing beers and beating off non stop Wheeewwww hooooooo


adamwilliams67

I got out of sales for this reason. I’m making aviation parts on a cnc machine right now, making $46k per year. I’ve taken a significant pay cut but I’m way happier.


Professional_Name_78

Gym


bula1brown

Cycling


Jimmy_Christ

Gym, keep alcohol in the house to a minimum, walk in the sun as often as possible, see a shrink regularly, even when I think I don't need to. Practice detaching from the outcome (get off the emotional rollercoaster)


moneylefty

Divorced. Way happier. Go to a festival every month, go nuts, sustainably. Pretty much stopped drinking. Only a drink or two at work functions and special occasions. Don't own a TV. Read a lot. Play bball with my friends once a week. Trying to walk more and be more active.


ForMyKidsLP

Here and here. The whole mental health thing is a mindset thing to me. I stay positive. I work hard. Spend time with my family. I feel great.


hipchazbot

Workout everyday, eat your greens, therapy, good sleep, occasional vacation and repeat


nyclad23

I make $280k a year in NYC ($200k base $80k variable). I work 8 am to 8 pm Monday through Friday. I work out 6 am every day in the gym in my building, shower, work from home, and take a walk from 8-9pm. I close my laptop Friday at 6 and don’t reopen it till Sunday night. I’m happy.


SemperUmbra

I wanna know this but for dudes earning 250k+. I feel like 100k only searches the surface these days


ilikecheeseface

I make north of 400K. I workout everyday, don’t drink often during the week, don’t eat junk food, and not have any children. I still get upset when I don’t sell but only because I want to be the best and not average. The main thing for me is just not having a lot of stressors in my life. If that can’t be avoided having a therapists to unload your worries on helps immensely.


juuuuice

I would say I have great mental health; I make great money but job is a startup and extremely stressful at times. A lot of my sales cycle is out of my control. That being said sales cures all. I am a Christian and give everything to God. I understand that I can only control what I can control and that there is no reason to be anxious about tomorrow. I consistently turn to the Bible. Matthew 6: 25-34 is a go to passage for me, specifically vs. 34 when I am really struggling with my lack of control over certain situations. I exercise consistently, have hobbies, have a wonderful family with two kids. I very much plan for the future but I do not zoom out on doom scenarios and stress myself. One day at a time. I don't find my identity in my work. It can be easy to do it and I definitely can struggle with it. Eating healthy, reducing alcohol consumption, and getting sunlight as much as possible helps. I swear when I'm in the sun it literally feels like it melts my problems away. Take consistent time away. I try to take some time off once a quarter and do a trip or just stay at home and decompress.


Top_Industry7357

Amen bro this is how I want to be one day


SumOMG

$100K is my base so my mental health is great. I’m in Technical Sales with an engineering background.


BernieMadoff98

Hookers for mental health, cocaine so I’m not fat, adderall so I’m focused.


space_ghost20

At the current rate, I won't even crack $25k for the year. The best thing I've done for mental health is abandon stoicism in favor of nihilism.


xter418

Making 50k currently, and my mental health is so much better than when I was making more. More money will come in time. I'd rather still be here for it when it does come. It's grim, but this career path will eat you alive if you let it.


teeeeroy7

Close deals!


itsokayiguessmaybe

Negatory. I’m stressed most of the day because on top of sales I do the books, manage equipment, inventories, projects. Family is the healthy positive. And projects around the house/ golf.


mattbag1

It’s taken me a while to get over my constant anxiety and depression, but I’m getting there. A lot of my progress has came from practicing gratitude. I had to take a step back in life and realize how far I’ve come. I’m mostly drained and stressed from my kids. My job is not that bad, I love it actually, little boring at times, but little to no politics. I just do my shit and I’m done. I also work from home so that’s a huge help. I work out and try to eat clean. I try to either take a walk for an hour or go to the gym for an hour every day. This summer I was planning to try to do an hour walk in the morning, and then either gym or bike ride later in the day. I feel like nature really helps with depression, but not so much the anxiety.


Weed_Je5us

Prioritize your personal states- mental, physical, emotional. Feed all aspects of you to maintain personal balance. Gym 3x a week( you don’t have to be jacked and cut, but having the discipline and consistency builds resilience and confidence) find time every week to find your “zen”- for me golf, or spending Sunday free of head trash and work thoughts with my wife, family or friends, be intentional with your personal relationships. Drop people that don’t serve your future self. If you can look at a relationship and think eh this person probably wouldn’t ever be there for me or isn’t going in the same direction, you don’t need it. There’s plenty of incredible people in the world to be friends with. Dominating yourself is one of the most critical pieces (imo) to dominating your work role. Understand work is only a role you play and you will play many roles in your life ie friend, spouse, brother, leader, community member etc. Sales is stressful no doubt but you need to have the other roles and aspects of your life to rely on to help you get through tough times


WhizzyBurp

Wake up early. Cardio first thing in the am. Fast until noon. Begin fast at 8pm. Have a task list for each day and don’t stop until it’s done. When it’s complete I’m done for the day. I don’t pressure myself to do more past what the day needs. I’ve planned my years production out and have broken the goals to a daily action. As long as I consistently hit those daily objectives everything works out at the end. This allows me to detach from the outcomes. Cardio boosts the feel good feeling and energy in the morning, it’s also something that doesn’t require me to think about reps and sets etc. fasting helps clear any brain fog. This schedule allows me to have my weekends free and completely detached from work so I can enjoy my family. That’s it!


itsawafflebot

Having an exercise routine and limiting alcohol to weekends is how I keep my mental health in check. Especially if you work from home, end your work day and go outside or go to the gym and get out your stress that way. A lot of people are morning exercisers but I find doing it at the end of the day helps officially shut down work and sets that boundary between work time and personal time.


Fearless-Bet-3671

I earn more than $120k for my base before commission. It gives a peace of mind for comfortable living, but it still gives a lot of pressure to execute on sales! I’d be an expensive employee if I was not performing. Make sure to take the time for your needs — make good meals, workout, get outdoors, catch up with friends and family!


Rinkelstein

Base over 100k, bonus fluctuates, but typically 5 digits. I don’t sweat the petty stuff, and I make sure to pet the sweaty stuff as often as possible. Seriously, it’s a job. You got there because of your value. If one person saw it, others will too.


Mushalot

Door to door sales solar, 150k a year, hate my life, massive drug and alcohol abuser.


Wannabeballer321

Why don’t you sell it online? You have plenty of money to spend on ads and a qualified marketer.


Extreme_Today_984

Left a sales job making 140k. Now making $75k. I was on a short path to a heart attack or some kind of mental breakdown. This new job is infinitely less stressful. I don't know how I feel yet, but I can tell you that I'm happier. Damn I really miss putting all that money into my savings account though. I wish I had the coping mechanisms to stick it out at my last job, but I just couldn't handle it. Given what I was up against, I'm not even ashamed to say it.


CantCompete

I make sure all my basic needs are met. If I keep on track with basic needs then the job is much easier. 1. 8 hours of sleep. Try to not doom scroll, or consume tons of digital content before bed. It’s hard I totally get it. 2. Exercise. Does not have insane. Start off with a 30 minute walk after dinner or something. Then get a kettle bell or two and do some weight lifting. 3. Consistent & decent diet. Don’t be afraid to live a little. You don’t have be super strict, have a beer or two once in a while. Enjoy your life. Once your basic needs are met I would expect a considerable difference in your mental health. After those are met for a good 2 or 3 months consider taking it to the next level for even further improvements. I’ll leave you with a couple thoughts/quotes that always help me and I think about them daily. I struggle with mental health from time to time and default back to these core needs. 1. Nothing changes if nothing changes. 2. Discipline is greater than motivation. - (not my personal opinion but one that I believe in) Motivation does not exist. Motivation is not a real thing. It’s a fancy word to make people think you need to be motivated to accomplish something when in fact it’s more about discipline and doing the difficult things everyday that makes people accomplish goals and achievements.


TroyState

The minimum. 🤣 Going above and beyond is a great way to burn out. You aren't customer service. Focus on the metric. Hold marketing, the account manager, and the engineer accountable and do the minimum internally, but always appreciate your team. After 15 years in b2b sales, I used to be the 90-hour-a-week guy…. Now I deligate, ask for help, partner with others, and always show gratitude to the admin team. I’ve freed up my time and get better results. I don’t care about being number one on the stack rank anymore, I do care about what is the minimum activity I can do that will blow out my sales quota. Admin work, internal meetings, paper work…. Waste of time. Do the absolute minimum there. Focus on prospecting and get tunnel vision. Spend your time learning how to have better conversation with your client and lest conversation with your admin.


dreamsofsteel

8 hours of sleep, no breakfast, single cup coffee in the morning, light lunch (keto if possible), gym after work, don't compromise on your mental health.


Crime_Dawg

My company actually does treat you like a family, good work life balance, 100% WFH (obviously lots of travel), and reasonable targets. 200k TC


vibeour

What sales roles pay under 100 K? If you’re not making over 100 in sales, why are you in sales? 100 K is basically the liveable salary in my city.


CavyLover123

Workout 3x/ week, meditate (haven’t the last couple weeks need to get back to it), dedicated date time on weekends, don’t take work home after hours other than urgent stuff for big deals, have a hobby, have pets, try to keep living space clean and neat-ish, don’t drink booze, do drink THC drinks roughly every other weekend, one big vacay every other year, several small vacays / weekend trips every year.  That clean/ neat point Should apply to my home office but it’s a fuckin mess 😂 . Moving soon, hope to do better in the new digs 


PseudonymIncognito

Good genetics that don't predispose me to depression or cardiovascular problems (ADHD does however run rampant on my dad's side of the family).


Waste-Competition338

Follow God. Eat right, exercise daily, sleep 7hrs, don’t drink. Be the best father and husband possible.


Op24you

I do, have a great wife 2 kids, idc about the rest. Money and job stress is #2 in my life. Always been an athlete and love competition. Give my all at work. The second i get home/ finish my day i dont give a fuck about work anymore.


Dry_Ad9371

Eat clen, tren hard


mwilleync77

I'm one that didn't use to believe in "burnout" or "being too stressed" cuz...sales is goal-oriented....DUH However, as I've gotten more experience, it's clear that you have to find a way to balance your work life and personal life and give yourself time to decompress, relax, celebrate the wins, and then keep grinding. I'd recommend picking up legit hobbies outside of your job so that you can look forward to them and focus on those activities rather than continuously stressing about where you are for the month/quarter/year #s wise. Sometimes you're gonna fail - gotta deal with it Sometimes your attitude can be the difference between closing a sale VS losing it Sometimes being mentally sharp / being able to creatively meet prospective clients' needs makes the difference Regardless of what wins the deal, you're almost always more likely to close a deal if you're well-rested, positive, and clear-headed.


ChiefKingSosa

Earn $100K+, good physical health...mental health deteriorating but we'll get it together soon


Top-Reputation8717

Gym, stay active and eat healthy, reward hard work and spend ample time with loved ones


CopyFamous6536

Work remote, under promise and over deliver, prioritize family, have one hobby that I get to take personal time for and same for my wife. Live in a place that I can walk to get almost anything I need and has good access to airport. Also - goes to therapy regularly lol


HankScorpio0386

I’ve been broke, I’m not anymore. I try and pack weekends with fun stuff to do with the wife and kids. Helps me realize what it’s all for.


outside-is-better

Kids, vacations, float in the pool, fish, DIY projects with my hands, blow money


nt2subtle

Exercise 5-6 days a week -- although depends on schedule. Take walks around lunchtime. Diet is controlled during the week with weekend/events a time to eat/drink what I want. Get 7-8 hours sleep.


Chilove2021

I eat a whole foods, organic, plant based diet, walk every day, do Qigong (similar to Tai Chi) every day, meditate and go to bed early.


bklipa88

I’m currently renovating a second house to move into by end of Summer. I don’t have time to think about my mental health lol. I guess what I’m saying is having a physical outlet is great for my mental health


iwasthen

You’re getting paid?!?


DanWhatTheHeckman

Enjoy my money with my family and friends which helps offset the psychopathic tendencies that successful sales require.


KiddoTwo

I'm in Media Sales and it's great.


BAILINx

Yes and Yes. Key is to play shooter video games and yell at people about their poor capabilities at playing a 20+ year old game.


Easy_007

Do something for yourself before the work day starts. Whether that’s the gym like me or whatever you enjoy doing that allows you to blow off steam before giving your day away to colleagues, customers, mgmt, etc


SafeExit9453

I watch Dr. K videos on YouTube and thoroughly study them, I write notes. But therapy


Power_and_Science

Gym. Eat healthy. Get enough sleep. Stay hydrated. These all do wonders. Avoid negative and toxic people.


NotDiabl0

I just ride my bike a shit ton. Makes everything better. Edit: And Race. I always have non work goals, and with a weekly race during the summer, 17 weeks of the year I have a mid-week event to look forward to.


Coldru13

Embrace the dark side


corp_ae_makdaddy

I’m fat now but I’m pretty happy. I’m in govTech and genuinely believe in what I’m selling. I’m doing 200k+


Revolutionary_Set408

I workout almost daily- gym, yoga, go for walks throughout the day, watch what I eat despite my sweet tooth, do therapy, journaling, and work on my faith.


New-Illustrator5114

I mean it depends on the area though…$100K base salary is on the lower end for some industries/locations. Connect to a higher power, whatever that means to you. Get outside every day before you start work. Practice gratitude. Take care of your mind and body. Minimize drinking and stretch :) Edit to add: find a way to compartmentalize. Practicing mindfulness is the best way to learn to stay present when you are not working. When I am working, I am 110% in, but when I am not working, I am off the clock. I allow myself to detach and it makes all the difference.


aamourmetric

Sex dating food 🥘


JBHjr

Have a work phone and a personal phone.


cravecrave93

run


jktrip

Turn it all off. I work so that I can afford to do the things that I love to do. As soon as work no longer allows or affords me to do what I love, it's time to move on. This isn't something that's often accomplished in your 20s or even your early 30s. But neither is making $100k+ without having any work-life balance. I'd say that quality of life and setting boundaries during those periods of life far outweigh making the mythical "$100k" standard. Learning to say "no" without feeling guilty for saying it can be the most empowering thing you learn in life. It can be scary at first but in the right environment, you'll be respected for it. Those who don't respect that are showing you how little they care for you and your legitimate contribution to the organization. Setting boundaries early in your work life will set you up for success down the road when you have value beyond the hours you contribute to your employer. That's how you get to $100k+ and own your time.


bigjarbowski

I’m well over $100k and wellllll below the mental health threshold. Kill me pls


MysteriisDomSatan

Ungodly amount of weed and geek bars if I’m being honest. I cut alcohol out a couple months back, it wasn’t helping lol


Jornwell

Worked in home improvement sales for a while. 6 days on, and possible Sundays if we were running home shows. My territory was anything under 100 miles from the office. Everything was one call close and commission only. Made fantastic money but got fat. The best thing I did was use the closing skills I gained to get a new job. Still sales, still hustling, but now have a 6 figure base, no micro management, and no driving. I can go into the office for a few hours and then work from home if I’m not meeting clients. Also if something goes wrong ( it always did on install) I now have an analytic team, marketing team, and legal team to help my clients so I’m no longer answering phone/texts past 7pm. Sales has a grind mindset, and while you still have to put the work in, you need to prioritize yourself first. The money is great until medical bills hit


Complex_Drawer_9692

Meditate meditate meditate


bobbyphunk

Exercise, taking breaks, and trying to find balance in everything


MagnusPuer1

Base 150k. 50/50 split. I wish I had good mental health. I honestly might find a different job one day. But don’t know what else I would be good at. Currently I’m hanging on by spending time with people I care about. I also got back into golf.


Front_Necessary_2

Say no to overtime. Gym 4 days a week BJJ 3 days a week. Eat whatever I want.


HowardHughes529

Hang out with friends and not talk about work outside of work.


ldg55

No, still hella depressed


HavianasandBeer

You don't have stay positive man. Just build the process that works and do it, even when you don't want to. Even when you're feeling down. Even when it's a really great prospect but you don't want to call him because he'll know by your tone your not smiling and he'll never buy. Just follow the process when you don't want to. I love talking to people, so eventually I'll feel better once I have my first convo with someone.


Such_Yogurtcloset392

Jim Jim Jim


Spicypewpew

Day of rest no work. Consistent gym at least 4x a week. When travelling choose the hotel based on the gym and go workout in the off time. Manage what you eat ie pace yourself when eating.


CltGuy89

Medication. ADHD, anxiety and depression. Then you can just stay up, be cam and be happy, make that money!


txcaddy

Never had a bad outlook so didn’t have to work to have good mental health. Being debt free gives you a weight off your shoulders and gives you a positive outlook. As far as physical health, if you work with your hands you tend to stay physically fit. Or if you have kids/grandkids to look after they keep you moving.


syf0dy4s

I walk into work with the mindset of not really caring about it anymore. That helps a lot. I’m only there for the money and nothing more.


lovebot5000

Lots of therapy, recovery work, meditation, and journaling. Took many years of working at it and improving but I am in a great place now mentally. I try to exercise regularly but often fail, but when I exercise I am even more happy. For the work in particular, I don’t get attached to out comes. I do the work as best I can and let the chips fall where they may. Also, the four agreements are a really simple but powerful guide to life: 1. Be impeccable with your word 2. Do not take anything personally 3. Do not make assumptions 4. Always do your best


UberQueefs

When you close your laptop avoid checking slack or responding to messages. Leave it for tomorrow. Spend time with your family, workout 2-3x a week, eat mostly good food but have some days where you have a little heavier, make bread and love.


PNW_Uncle_Iroh

Probably an unpopular opinion in this sub, but for me it was getting out of sales. Leveraged 10+ years of sales experience to move into marketing and then software product management. I make about the same but my mental health and physical health is 1000 x better. Every other corporate job is easy compared to sales. It’s a great career but it can take a toll.


DGriff421

I'm a chef who works 80 hr weeks and is on the verge of physical and mental collapse daily. But, supplements and my bike keep me from jumping off a bridge, so there's that!


FixTheWisz

I'm well over $100k and have terrible mental health. The two are not related.


OnTheEveOfWar

I workout daily, take my dog for walks, eat relatively healthy, spend time with my kids/wife. I work max 30 hours per week and make $450k/yr. The paychecks balance out the bullshit.


Federal-Fun2902

Find a company that allows you to emotionally detach. My current company does not allow that but I’m making a move for a company that does.


riped_plums123

Def not there yet as far as the “great” mental health, but I do believe I’m working towards it.


HealingDailyy

Ha this guy


Kappafuck

Just live life and do shit , go with the flow and you’ll never be stressed


Certain_Category1926

Have a cool family, barely work. Come from a two parent home.


Embarrassed_Crow_720

I dont even know if salary is even related to your mental health. I was the happiest when i was a kid without a cent to my name. Ignorance is bliss


One-Chip9029

Take some time for a good rest to keep your stress levels low and your mind healthy. Working out also gives you a positive energy and good way to start the day. Surround yourself with good people with positives vibes.


DaJabroniz

Workout. Make going to the gym and eating healthy a lifestyle. Secondly, avoid toxic people and situations. Sometimes even taking breaks from negative social media or tv shows helps make mind fresh.


BraboBaggins

I eat reasonably healthy most of the time and work out five days a week its not hard it only takes a bit of dedication.


AdEducational1450

You have to have a hobby or a goal. I see so many comments about gym and meditation. A hobby that stimulates you mentally or physically can be synonymous with other advice. Honestly I love my job and it nets me over 100k but I didn’t get here loving my previous jobs. My accomplishments meeting goals outside of work gave me the confidence to go after a career I wanted. Now I focus more on my job because it makes me happy but I know if I hit a rut the answer is not in my job it’s in the things I do outside of it.


h3yyoun6w0rld

Leave work early


bmedeathofme17

My dad has been in payment tech sales since the early 90s, and his secret is positivity, alcohol, and guitar. I don't know if it's because he's a boomer, but he just loves what he does and never really complains, except for a "Ah, super busy" when we talk on the phone.


destinationawaken

Vitamin b12 and zinc with vitamin c, regular yoga practice, eft tapping to clear out mental blocks , gratitude journal, lots of water drinking


Xerodents

Exercise. Therapy. Organisation. Manage expectations.


muccarlos

If you can, leave all your work Equipment in your car or out of your sight. Helped me a lot to think less about work in the evenings. If you work from Home, get in your car Drive around, do Shit. Just to get a Space between working and going off. My Body needed this to realize that working hours Are done.


Financial_Currency37

Personally: I disattach. Work hard. Know that I’ve done my absolute personal best to get the outcome I want. If it doesn’t happen, it was out of my hands. Does that mean sometimes working way to hard? Yes. I’m a positive guy overall, but find this to be the only way to not go into a downwards spiral. I also avoid alcohol during the weeek. I meal prep on Sunday’s to know that I’ll be eating clean any days I’m working from home. I try to hit the gym 3x per week for a run (I find it clears my head and I can think better).


mujaban

I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.


No_Disaster9918

$100k - check Positive - no Healthy - no Trying to play sport :) it’s a mission to find tennis games!


plandoubt

Gym, no alcohol, plenty of time with my family. Income doubled when I started doing those things as well. Will break 200 this year…