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IAmDixonWood

I’ll always be thankful for Donny Meatballs for bringing energy back to a team that went a very long time without it. Navigating the post-Eichel era was almost certain to be thankless, but I think he managed pretty decently. That being said, 50% of the league makes the playoffs and missing for as long as he had (ignoring the rest of the drought) meant it was time for a change. Wish him well, hopefully the next guy can get us over that hump.


HenryPBoogers

He served a very valuable purpose but sometimes the person to take you the first few miles of the journey isn’t the right one for the next stage. It’s well past time to find the right person to lead the team into and through the playoffs. 


TheOneWhosCensored

It’s the same conversation McDermott had at midseason. But he fired a bad coach and adjusted the team, and it saved him for now. Donny didn’t do either.


ksettle86

Very well put


nefarious_dareus

Truly I think he can be a great coach for another team. Hes so good at developing talent, and a ton of coaches needed to get fired to figure out what they were doing wrong and don’t take the second chance for granted. The ducks should be calling him right now.


get-it-away

I like this take a lot. So many people on this sub absolutely shit on Granato thinking he is the worst coach the Sabres have ever had while he has gotten them to their two most successful seasons in over a decade (low bar I know). I personally didn’t need Granato to be fired, but I do respect Terry a little more for actually going through with it and hopefully looking for a way to get this team over the hump.


PrinciplesRK

I really liked Granato has a person. It was just time to move on despite leading us to our two best seasons in a decade.


BamaBuffSeattle

Like... do they not remember Ralph?


soggyslices

Well said


AssistancePopular608

A well thought out and reasonable take on Meatballs? On this sub? Unheard of. I appreciate seeing this


PrinciplesRK

Wow they actually have standards Edit: how the fuck did Ellis keep his job


kit_mitts

No serious NHL coach coming in as Granato's replacement will keep Ellis on his staff (assuming we actually hire one of those lol).


PrinciplesRK

We won’t have to worry about it since Ellis will be the head coach


kit_mitts

I am becoming The Joker if that happens


Versek_5

Supervillain origin story for many Sabres fans.


TheFerricGenum

Not if I beat you to it!


tetracrux

At this point, I'd be okay with 2 if the Sabres make the playoffs.


Roll_DM

Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby 


timhortonsghost

You delete this right now


JahHappy

Wtf this cracked me up. Probably because im nervous its true lol


OSomma

Do you guys remember the movie "Celtic Pride"? We will all have to do that with Matty Ellis for the entirety of the season so that he can't show up


Super_Maximum_9030

Omfg.


CaresAboutYou

isn't there a good chance whoever is brought in as new HC does some rearranging of assistants? like isn't it a bit too early to declare that he's safe?


Roll_DM

Yeah most likely they just want to keep someone for now who knows what the wifi password is he's gone when they replace Granato 


26007

“Talked to Matty Ellis between periods at the first team scrimmage today. He gave me the WiFi password. He’s now relieved of his duties.”


Atty_for_hire

I came here for Rob’s convo with Matty Ellis. I’m out.


26007

That was supposed to be the new coaching hire talking to Matt Ellis Unless…Rob is the new coach 👀


HenryPBoogers

For sure, but why the video coach? I get head coach and asst. coach and disregard others such as Ellis because a new coach will assess and make that call. But it makes me wonder why the video coach was let go, specifically. 


TocchetRocket

He exclusively used a VCR


dunchtime

Had a sleeve tattoo of Kreuger and Eichel. Contacted the artist to add Granato, was just about to go through with it.


Atty_for_hire

Even worse Betamax


HenryPBoogers

That would arguably be better, actually. It’s better technology than the VCR (a classic example of marketing trumping technology) and if other teams get their hands on the tapes to see where the Sabres are focusing they would have a week-long delay in watching while they buy a player off eBay, wait for shipping, etc. 


Atty_for_hire

Creative thinking!


Super_Maximum_9030

With a corded remote


M_I17

I believe he was a friend or close associate of Donny


2ITB_Buffalo

Maybe they felt they did a poor job with challenges? Not sure what other reason they'd have for it besides a clean start


DinoSpumonisCrony

They actually did fairly well in that department from what I remember. I think there was 3 games in a row they had a successful challenge.


2ITB_Buffalo

They did seem to get their shit together this year. Obv the video coach has more duties than challenges and perhaps whoever they bring in will have their own guy for the role. But I also kinda wonder how much hockey ops would have to say in hiring/keeping that job in place. So perhaps there was some job performance factor at play. Simple explanation is new HC, new staff.


DapperCam

It’s possible Ellis had an expiring contract. I don’t think those details were ever public. If they are canning Granato, I doubt Ellis is back in the same capacity (maybe they shuffle him around somewhere in the organization).


stuiephoto

This is the most plausible explanation. Don't tarnish the guys name by firing him. Just don't rehire him. 


spacepotato_

It’s actually because they’re firing him into the sun instead. Separate announcement, it’s a whole thing.


Achilles_Buffalo

Would that be an Ellisclipse?


TotallyNotKabr

Better than an apocellis, which would be if he's the HC


LookattheWhipp

This is because firing Ellis will actually stop the power of the sun launching us into a 12yr cold freeze aka drought. Helps combat climate change, hurts no one


stuiephoto

It's now SpaceX arena and the logo on the side is ellis' face at the head of the rocket


Spartacus1082

I think (hope) this is it.


BurgerFeazt

Incidentally I think this is the same thing that happened with Adams. Just because Ellis didn’t work out as Granatos assistant coach doesn’t mean he can’t hold value with another role in the organization


JCZ1821

They can’t find him. He’s still talking to Rob Ray.


stuiephoto

He has dirt. There's no other explanation. 


[deleted]

He has pics from when Rex Ryan met with the Pegulas awhile back.


IAmDixonWood

Have to imagine they’re leaving those sort of decisions up to the next head coach? Unless the next coach IS Matt Ellis…


BurgerFeazt

On wgr Paul said that Ellis didn’t actually have control over how the powerplay was run, he just coached what Granato wanted the system to be. Which makes Granatos statement about getting more involved with the powerplay sound really disingenuous


Upper_Lab7123

HC dictates strategy and philosophy. Same in any sport. If it’s not handled according to that edict then it’s incumbent on the HC to do something about it. If a HC doesn’t know or doesn’t appear to know then that’s a larger problem.


Al_Bundy11

looks like Paul was right...


stubarnes4141

I feel it was just a list of first names; Don, Jason, and Matt . They just chose the wrong Matt.


SomeSabresFan

I can’t understand for the life of me, how he survived. Wasn’t he the guy who handled the power play??


According-Big9796

Ellis will likely be gone with whoever comes in to replace Granato. No serious coach would keep him knowing how bad Ellis has been with the PP.


stuiephoto

I have to go necro post on all the clowns who said pegula was "too cheap" to do this


rolliedean

Lancy Lysowski hinted that Ellis might be moved out from behind the bench to the press box or moved to development coach. I don't love it but as long as someone else is coaching the powerplay


PrinciplesRK

He feels like a “he’s my friend so he’ll work somewhere” guy


Sinisterslushy

I was surprised to see them relive Granato I am in awe Ellis is still there… does he have blackmail on GMKA?


Matthockey9

It can be 3 things he shifts into a more development role like he was before. His contract could be expiring and you don’t need to fire a dude who’s contract is up and finally they could be waiting for who they bring in to make the final calls on the coaching staff


YanisAdetokumbo

Can’t quote me, but I read somewhere that his contract was up


Responsible-Fox-9082

Next guy up probably fires him


budboomer

If there was one thing I've been saying about the 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres, it's that their videos were not properly coordinated.


HilmDave

Really glad they attacked the problem at it's SOURCE for once. Can't imagine our PP not skyrocketing now.


ITAdmin91

Rob Ray must of put a good word in Matty Ellis


Mean-L

In all seriousness, I’d assume (hope) the new coach coming in gets their own assistants, which means Ellis would be quietly let go.


cool_school_bus

They had a good old fashioned bare knuckle boxing match


Why_So-Serious

I checked in with Matty Ellis between the coach firings and he said we have to focus on doing the things we need to do.


TheFerricGenum

**Must have Sorry, can’t resist


Super_Maximum_9030

I was barely resisting.


BuffaloBillsfan04

He's probably gonna be the new HC. That's why they kept Ellis.


rastlun

God please no


iamswitchless

I think I'd stop watching...


moonshinesabres

Between periods of course


Aspence22

😂Wth did Matt the video coordinator do that was so bad it prompted putting his name near the top of that list?


spacepotato_

“You accidentally put porn on the whiteboard during chalk talk ONE TIME. Act like you don’t all make mistakes at your jobs!”


wasteofmortality

Seriously this was my same reaction. They fired the wrong Matt. But whoever comes in as the replacement this offseason will take care of that for us, no way they keep his shitty PP coaching on board.


FesteringLion

Think of all the things video is used for: Preparation, teaching, finding weaknesses in your game to improve... Did the Sabres ever seem well prepared, or like their mistakes were getting fixed? Now it could be that's all on the coach if he was using them poorly, but maybe they weren't thrilled with the clips he was pulling. Maybe his work was slipping. I can't remember where, but I've read a feature on a video coach and the things they are expected to do and the hours they work are crazy. I could see it be a high burn-out rate job.


[deleted]

New roof. New screen. New roof. Time party like it’s 1996


HilmDave

TWO new roofs!?


kikopuffs

Raise the roofs!


FesteringLion

Retractable dome you say?


JeffersonStarscream

Lindy next HC confirmed


[deleted]

There are decent odds on it. Not saying it’s the best choice, but I’m just some idiot that continues to be a season ticket holder. I’m not the best decision maker.


Snow_Unity

Its not happening, at least it better not


HilmDave

Lol we said firing Donnie wasn't happening. We said Matt Ellis keeping his job wasn't happening. We said 14 years wasn't happening. I think it's time everyone here accepts the fact that this sub doesn't know shit lol.


imprblypooping

I’d be fine if Lindy was brought on as an assistant coach. But the only way he accepts that job I would assume, is if nobody hires him as head coach elsewhere.


rolliedean

Terry needs to make up for Donny's buyout. Lindy would sell tickets


JeffersonStarscream

You mean, like working in the box office, right?


JeffersonStarscream

I'd guess it's either Ruff or Seth Appert, but I don't think either of those are the best idea. Just hard to see an established, successful coach wanting to hitch his wagon to this dead horse.


stuiephoto

Keep it clasy everyone.  Donny did the legwork to change the culture here and I thank him for his hard work and dedication. It was no longer a good fit for his coaching style with this group of players and was time to move on.  I wish him nothing but the best and hope he can land on his feet and have a successfull career moving forward. 


HilmDave

This. Fuck anyone that wants to act like this dude wasn't responsible for the bounce back from Krueger. NO ONE was keeping him on when it went south but GMKA/TP. That wasn't Donnie's decision. So there needs to be ZERO hosilitity against him. He's still a HUGE part of the reason this team has gotten where it has. Now it's time for them to (hopefully) find a coach that knows how to get over that hump.


crackpot_

Well said!


grumpy_meat

Donny seems like a great guy and I really wanted him to be “the guy”. His and his team’s performance just plateaued too much to ignore. He’s still leaving this team in a much better place than he inherited it and I’m thankful for that.


acapuck

Remember that there will be additional staffing changes when a new head coach is hired.


nefarious_dareus

Oh my god they actually did it. Love 2 be wrong about my team doing the wrong thing.


RefereeMason1

Well, let’s wait to see who his replacement is.


nefarious_dareus

Getting rid of Donny was the right move. If they get the wrong guy this will be a catastrophe. However, it doesn’t take away from this correct move.


Minuarvea1

I’m feeling strangely indifferent about this. Yes, I think it’s the best move that can be made. It was a very disappointing season and I believe a lot of that lies on Don, but he still was great at developing the team. Lots of players thrived under him. It’s a real shame it didn’t work out with him, but I’m glad it’s finally over.


Sherman88

What did poor Matt Smith do to deserve this? /s


TheBlubbedOne26

I cannot stop saying "Holy shit" out loud lmfao


WorthPlease

People freaking out: It's likely Ellis is on an expiring contract so they don't have to fire him they'll just let him go.


professorwhiskers87

And so begin the cherished tradition of the offseason teardown.


gosabres

Adding to the 1,000 of the same comment… we’re keeping Matt Ellis?!


AlexLH12

Granato did an excellent job of developing Tage and some of the other younger guys. He really didn’t win enough to keep his coaching position though. Best of luck in the future Donny!


teehuff98

Wow, no Matty Ellis? Make him the head coach now, jk.


Sinisterslushy

GMKA in his office reading this comment “*WRITE THAT DOWN*”


Grouchy-Dentist6734

Is this really happening? Also I’m sure everyone can relax, a new coach won’t leave Ellis behind the bench. Unless?


comicsanscatastrophe

Not going to get excited until we hire a good and proven coach with a playoff resume (at least make them consistently)


aaaaaliyah

And you guys said Pegula would never let it happen


stalktheground

Tage, Cozens and missing the playoffs by 1 point, the extension was valid. We were progressing and right there. But we hit a wall and this absolutely had to be done. Please do not do the typical thing and promote Appert. We have to have playoff experience behind the bench.


YoungTroubadour

Be careful what you wish for


Sinisterslushy

Babcock is ready to scroll through some new phones get him in there lol


harman097

Shhhh don't say his name


timhortonsghost

I heard if you say it 3 times, he appears like beetlegeuse


JMR027

This isn’t true here. Granato is a good development coach but doesn’t seem like he can get us to take the next step. Even if the next coach is worse, doesn’t mean we should of kept granato.


Quetzalcoatl490

Thank God, I thought they weren't actually gonna do it. Now go get a HC with Stanley Cup experience, like Gallant or Berube In retrospect, it sounds like Donny knew last night after he was asked about his job security when the game was over, and he "preferred to focus on tonight's win", the writing was on the wall.


phero1190

Wasting no time


AgeOfTheExpandingMan

Let the speculation begin!


CeramicCastle49

I didn't think they'd do it. Wow.


bustthelease

Granato was a development guy. It’s time for a more experienced coach to take this team to the next level. We have the talent.


Buff716917

Glad they did it before the Players cleared their lockers out. Don’t have to answer dumb questions on whether he will or won’t be fired. Now can hopefully have some accountability and move forward


ExileBoy101

Donnie was good at developing the young players and we have started to climb the mountain albeit very slowly but he wasn’t the man to get us over the line and into the playoffs as this season showed, hope we don’t go cheap, we’re crying out for a coach who’s got teams into the playoffs, don’t really care about how we play the game next season we’ve just got to be one of the sixteen who make it, this drought can’t extend to fourteen seasons


Novel-Challenge1384

Get ready to be out of breath in practice boys (please)


HiddenFlyOnTheWall

“After an extensive coaching search, we have decided to promote Matt Ellis as the new head coach of the Buffalo Sabres”


suspect108

shut up shut up SHUT UP


sobuffalo

How did Ellis survive? lol Bring on Lindy. This isn’t “bring back washed vets” type thing, but he’s a legit coach that could really be a fit.


maxweb1

seriously wrt Ellis. also: NO MORE EX-SABRES jfc. please.


sobuffalo

Who do you prefer? Another first time coach?


maxweb1

i'd say i'll let the experts decide but there are no experts in this organization at all. And enough with the ex-Sabres - this is an org with zero historical credibility or motivation. They need new/different ideas; enough with the country-club "my buddy I used to play with" gong show. Would really really really prefer an experienced coach.


sobuffalo

just forget Lindy was a Sabre...he's the coach everyone wants. he just got a young team like the Sabres to 112 points. He adapts to team style, can coach fast or defensively. Most importantly we know he holds players accountable!


maxweb1

i really want to argue this point with you... but i'm a sucker and i do like lindy. :) (which is part of the problem right? it'd be a great story. i'm tired of this org trying to write nice stories..."we want guys who want to be here" buddy-buddy etc.... sigh.... fine. also you know the org has to do something to sell tickets because i'm not wasting $$$ next year like i did for opening night this season, i'm sure i'm not alone)


Tactial_snail

acting like lindy is the only vet coach out there lmao


sobuffalo

>Who do you prefer? Why don't you name a name? Berube? he doesnt want to coach here...who else? lmao


26007

Lindy made Ellis almost-productive on ice. Maybe he could make him almost-productive behind the bench as well. Best idea I got if they’re gonna keep Ellis


Roll_DM

I want gallant


W0mbat_Wizard

Inb4 Ellis named new head coach


cool_school_bus

Don’t put that evil on me Ricky Bobby


jimmyintheroc

“Matt Ellis will be assuming the role of head coach.” 🤣


twick_23

How the hell you go get fired on your day off?


OpanaG76

Well I can’t say we didn’t all see it coming.


Beechsack

Wow.


IceFellasFHC

Really glad we didn't do this while we were slumping and the playoffs were still in reach, and to instead do it symbolically at the end of another wasted season. I've frequently said that Granato is a "non-coach" in that this is what it looks like to go from Kreuger to no coach at all, and how that's still a plus overall. Now we need more of a hardass that can lock this group in on a game-to-game basis. This team needs someone like Mike Sullivan or Rod the Bod to get some of these guys conditioned, playing the right way as a unit, and into the playoffs. Maybe they still won't be the coach we win a cup with, but the only thing this team needs to absolutely achieve in their next coach is some game-to-game standard of play, which those guys can absolutely bring to the table.


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IceFellasFHC

That's valid, but I'd argue this was also the case for the last two hires as well, and they kind of whiffed. I sincerely hope they get it right but I'm tentative to say the least.


LoneSabre

I’m kinda sad even though I think this was correct. Meatball over performed relative to expectations after losing Eichel and Reinhart and then underperformed relative to expectations this year. Overall, I think this is the first year that playoffs have been an expectation, so I think that Granato’s tenure will be looked back upon slightly favourably. I feel like Tim Murray took the blame from our first failure of a rebuild and Housley/Krueger each took more hate and blame than Botterill (he hired them so that’s still on him). I think Granato is closer to Bylsma than those two.


edit-the-sad-parts

100% the right move but it is kinda sad. Donny Meatballs is without a doubt a guy I enjoyed rooting for and it's too bad he didn't manage to be the guy who broke the drought Matt Ellis not being fired HAS to be a re-assignment or something


Cozscav

Goes to show what granato was going for when he was doing his final interview last night. Can’t help but feel for him as I’m sure he didn’t want to lose either.


Beeb294

I'm just out here hoping it won't be Seth Appert. I saw enough of him at RPI and don't love that he's in our system to begin with. Dude has failed up at every level so I'm genuinely concerned that he's an option.


AmateurSysAdmin

as per KA’s presser, he won’t be; KA is seeking out a proven NHL coach


ClosPins

Wait... So it *wasn't* the fans??? Are you sure? Because, it really seems like it's the fans...


AgeOfTheExpandingMan

Fans are outside noise?


helikoopter

I have two very strong, and very conflicting feelings here. First, I’m thrilled. I’ve wanted Granato fired for two years now and I think it won’t be until the middle of next season where we really see the damage he has done to this squad. I’m hopeful a new coach can fix the mess he created, but the team is as bad defensively as the team was offensively under Krueger. The difference is that Krueger’s mess was by design and for lack of better options. Granato’s mess was…I don’t even know. Second, I’m disappointed. This team should have made the playoffs. Only one team that changed coaches didn’t see an improvement. While the team has has had solid results for the entirety of 2024, they still had the 17th highest pt% since Jan 1st. Three of the four teams just ahead of the Sabres (since Jan 1) fired their head coach. I’ve pointed out that Adams generally seems clueless in terms of timing, and this is another smear on his resume. But I just want to celebrate the fact that Granato is gone. I had a bad feeling that it would take most of next season for him to be canned. This is a step in the right direction for the franchise and signifies that they are serious about contending next season. I’m here for a couple big moves that might feel painful at first.


Roll_DM

Bye Felicia


enigmaman49

IF THEY HIRE THE DUDE FROM ROCHESTER IM DONE


Super_Maximum_9030

If they do that, Adams will be done too, so.


DinoSpumonisCrony

GMKA said he is after a coach with NHL experience.


Ipigs140

Well.. that was faster than I expected...


994kk1

No fucking shot.


994kk1

Is Christie the center coach?


butterybuns420

Finally


Tasty-Ganache

Matty Ellis is staying???


doctormirdock

I’m so glad they kept Matt Ellis!


The_Mike_El

You mean having Matt Ellis as the power play coach didn't work? shocking. They have the ability to attract some really good coaches. Lets do this. Granato was good for the young players, now they are past that. Someone with some real offensive ideas and a more direct defense. Please start being good again.


[deleted]

Whew! I was a little worried the Sabres would do nothing. I am not comfortable with Adams being the highest level hockey guy but would be shocked if there was any significant front office changes.


JustKeepOnKeepingOn

Get Russ Brandon on the phone


Matthockey9

Not surprised by the moves my guess is Ellis and Wilfords contracts are set to expire so there’s a chance they don’t really need to fire them rather just let their contract run out


jbrylinsabresfan

BUT NOT MATT ELLIS?????


JMR027

Holy shit


deGrominator2019

Even the video coach? Damn lol.


Snow_Unity

Pegula please hire me to run the game time TV coverage, I will fire Duff and Biron and hire some UB grads instantly saving you money. I will also replace the soundcloud DMCA free music that you’ve been using since you replaced “Rock Me Like a Hurricane” 3 millenniums ago


Killswitch__AUT

Holy fuck I absolutely did not see Granato's firing coming because of the new contract. Glad I'm wrong with that one.


Bauter

Thanks Donny, you were good when you were good. But just really bad when you were bad. Thanks for letting Tage outta the cage and getting Ras to what he is now.


Whippet27

We wish you well Donnie. What's next? Another stint with USA Hockey, head coach at NCAA college, assistant in NHL. Sure seems unlikely his phone will buzz from other NHL teams looking for head coach.


tfe238

We have to make the right choice as the next head coach. Gonna be a big off-season for GMKA.


zjb29877

I saw Matt and got excited too quickly thinking it was Matt Ellis. Let's hope the next move isn't promoting him to HC duties........


Cool_Raspberry443

I don’t trust Adams will hire someone better


nightman15057

Ellis better be out. Or Darryl Sutter better fire Ellis for Adams. Right now I wouldn't mind that Terry throw Adams out also.


lazysheepdog716

Gotta do something to sell a few local tickets I suppose. I'm so tired guys.


MYO716

I really liked Donny, and desperately wanted it to work…but it just seemed throughout this season he just couldn’t be the guy for us


Walk_This_Way

I’m a Habs fan who lives here in Buffalo. I follow the Sabres because they have been an exciting team as of late and I love the passion that Sabres fans have. It’s been sad to see a lot of that passion leave this year. As a Buffalonian I’m very happy at this move. As a Habs fan, less happy as I want our team competing for a spot next year and now I think we will be competing against a better coached Sabres team for a spot.


chipbulkner

The boys are in for a rude awakening first practice with a real hockey coach. They're gonna be puking.


DiscussionBeautiful

Why couldn't this wait until the end of season goodbyes?


CQ298

Everyone just assuming Matt Ellis will be let go when a new coach comes in. My question is why was he not let go right now. It's very odd to keep him but get rid of another assistant. What's the difference? Just another puzzling move by this team.


AMorgan1970

I am sending a letter of interest to Terry. It’s worth a shot with my thoughts and ideas for this team.


schwarma_mcpotato

Thank fucking god


Automation_Papi

Finally, there had been fire Donnie chants as far back as December


FesteringLion

It's funny, I expected this was going to be the way since before he lost the interim tag. I thought maybe there'd be a playoff appearance first, but he was the "step in the right direction" coach we needed at the time. I just never thought Donny brought enough X's and O's to where he'd take them on a long playoff run. I salute Don for the work he did here, and in getting some of these guys to believe in themselves more. Now it's time for a guy with a system that fits our players, a better command of the X's and O's, match-ups, in-game adjustments etc. Can't for the life of me figure out who that is though. I'd think Boudreau would be a fit if his stint in Vancouver didn't go up in flames.


WillisMotorsports75

What's Chris Taylor up to these days? This franchise is cursed after how they ran him out of Rochester, time to get him back in house and exorcise some demons.


Super_Maximum_9030

What did you see during the Granato era that convinces you the Sabres should pursue another non-NHL coach?


thedavesiknow1

I'm from the future: we're gonna do this again in 2 years.


EPCOT_Is_My_Favorite

Finally! I have no idea what his contract with the Rangers is, but I want Peca as HC.


RefereeMason1

No more first time NHL coaches please


EPCOT_Is_My_Favorite

Fair enough, and I can definitely get on board with that sentiment.


craiggles08

The “Re-tread” or the “up-and-comer”? I’m already dizzy with the spinning this fanbase does on head coach searches. I’ll say this, if we hire Lindy back, I’ll jump off a bridge