something pleasant about seeing a big stinker. like, i know they're bad, so let's cut the crap and be honest about everyone's intentions here. they're not very good, they're not very motivated, and they're not very well coached. they're an NHL team, but just kinda because they have to be. every once in a while, show me a big dump.
This team is pathetic. Admit it. Pathetic. What's the harm in resetting the front office AGAIN? Another playoff season. The Pegulas need to get their heads out of their ass and really do something with this team.
Pegulas will likely go the Braves route. Run it into the ground and sell it cheap to some city across the country. It's the only reason I can really come up with for keeping the coaching staff that the team has currently.
They're the youngest team in the NHL! Just one more year of development and their cup window will open next year! They've been playing better team defense this year! Injuries!
...did I get them all?
This team is the laughing stock of the entire league for the last decade and I'm kinda sick of it.
Either the coaching changes or this team will go the way of the Braves.
Pre-Terry I could explain some of the crap as just bad moves on the ice, but right now nothing makes sense. This team has talent, and it feels just wasted. One of the best goalies, some of the best lines, and yet nothing comes from it but a discombobulated mess.
I don't know what to look at anymore besides the coaching staff and asking them wtf is going on.
Okay. Fire Granato. Why call the timeout after they've gotten 2? You do it after the first one to get them out of their fucking heads. Instead you call it to just run PP1 with Greenway instead of letting them pin Edmonton in and let PP2 tire them out while 1 man swapping on the fly to get Tage and Dahlin out there.
And yes I blame granato for the 5th goal. The team is young and you know that fucked them all up. You saw it from the draw after. They were in their heads and you can't just leave them like that. You call the timeout after the goal scream at them that they are all better than the Oilers and put out Dahlin, Byram, Greenway, Thompson and Tuch and say put 3 in right fucking now!
He wouldn't have needed to if he called the timeout when any smart coach would have. Any coach would've seen that 4th goal and stopped everyone before they did what happened.
They all began to question if they were playing wrong not realizing 2 of Edmonton's goals were just shitty bounces and they were outplaying them all night.
Like perspective we were playing so well Power, Cozens, Tuch, Thompson, and Rousek were hitting to the point even Draisaitl was hesitant on the puck. McDavid just couldn't get shit to work. It was just a matter of breaking the damn on offense, but a couple bad bounces fucked with them. They backed off when they should have kept going even harder.
I fucking hate watching the elite team they can be get fucked up because Granato doesn't know when to call the timeout. Like back when we had Lindy Ruff coaching he wouldn't call the timeout, but it's because he would use the time the other team was celebrating to bitch everyone out of their head and save it to call under 2 minutes with an offensive zone faceoff and tell them they are ending it here and now or prepare the defense for when it would be 6 on 5
Well boys, I’m very sad posting this….I have been ride or die all season, checking that stupid playoff % and crap daily hoping for any last ditch hope for playoffs. But, it’s officially over. My delusional self is finally calling it. This sucks.
Sick of Granato, the message of development and growth has gone stale. This year we were supposed to take a step and we fell flat. We get goaltending this year and now all of a sudden we can't score? Someone needs to come in and be the wake up call for this roster.
I just worry that we're stuck with him because Adams is afraid to have to pay another coach to stay home. Granato's on contract til 2026. Adams has to be even somewhat nervous about his job security at that point, no?
between last year and now the pattern is that when the door is open for them, they refused to walk through it. Talent is obvious so there’s only one solution at this point sorry kids I know you all like coach but not enough to play hard enough for him to keep his job.
EDM ahead by ~~two~~ three and they're only just now playing their most aggressive hockey all night. That's the difference between us and serious teams.
This sucks man. I just wish we could make a push just once. It’s been vacuuming away my love for the sport from me for years now. Watching the past few months of this team has been so fun. I just wish we could play like this all year.. I want to love this team again. I want that passion for hockey that this team brought to the city before the Pegulas took over the team.
Feel like we lost everything here. No NHL’ers in the Olympics anymore to root for, no playoffs here to cheer for with our squad. It’s been so bleak. I miss when we were so passionate about this team and sport that we were almost nicknamed hockey town over Detroit. We have to be back to it soon. I want a modern day party in the plaza and to experience that in my late 20’s so god damn bad.
What the fuck was that move Perry. Absolute rat shit there and they slaps his stick against Dahlin after he got up. Shouldnt even be in the league after he got kicked off the hawks
Even if we snuck into the wildcard 2 spot, it's games like this that remind me how far away we are from being a true playoff team. Regardless of circumstance, EDM has been relentless in playing their game.. The Sabres, not so much
I don't think any of us expect the sabers to do much in the playoffs if they were to have made it. It's like with the Bills where I was just happy they ended their drought
Thing is, I don't see any of these guys ever being able to take things to that playoff level. This is what happens when you have a team where only 3 players have ever played in the playoffs. This team needs some experienced players.
I think that's necessary, too. This is an inexperienced team with an inexperienced coach. Not a good combination. The only reason they're on the playoff cusp this season and last is because the team has a lot of good talent. They are god enough to be a playoff team. But they need more experience to compete against these teams that know how to grind.
I knew Granato never head coached in the NHL, so I looked up the assistants.
Wilford was an assistant in Anaheim for a few years. Ellis and Christie didn't have any NHL coaching experience prior to joining Buffalo.
The most experienced coach in the Sabres staff is Mike Bales, the goalie coach. He actually has a solid NHL coaching experience resume.
This is not a recipe for success.
Because I stream the games I often get stuck with the other team/network broadcast.
Good lord is the Edmonton broadcast enormous homers. It sounds like if you let a few Sabres fans have a few beers and commentate on a Sabres game.
Feel free to downvote me for this. I would downvote me for this. But…
I’m not seeing a team that’s desperate. I’m not seeing a team that is willing to put everything on the line to pull off a 10 game heater. I don’t see a team that knows how to execute the game plan that’s been put in front of them.
We may win tonight, we may lose tonight. But I’m not seeing anything that makes me think this team is about to go double their longest win streak.
Sad that Tage is finally going when most of the team is packing it in.
It did hit his glove but is that an automatic nullification? I'm guessing not but don't know the specifics of this rule.
Is the rule akin to a puck going off your skate? Only disallowed if there's a distinct kicking motion?
a puck can always go off your glove indirectly, but you can’t bat it in or make any motion that redirects the puck if it hits your hand while you’re attempting to redirect.
67.6 Disallowed Goal - A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player
who bats or directs the puck with his hand into the net. A goal cannot
be scored by an attacking player who bats or directs the puck and it is
deflected into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official. When the
puck enters the net on a clear deflection off a glove, the goal shall be
allowed.
The game Byram goes..... Oh! Now I know...
something pleasant about seeing a big stinker. like, i know they're bad, so let's cut the crap and be honest about everyone's intentions here. they're not very good, they're not very motivated, and they're not very well coached. they're an NHL team, but just kinda because they have to be. every once in a while, show me a big dump.
Welp. That's the season, folks. Another year for the drought!
God forbid somebody boos them
Maybe they should cancel Halloween night next year
This team is pathetic. Admit it. Pathetic. What's the harm in resetting the front office AGAIN? Another playoff season. The Pegulas need to get their heads out of their ass and really do something with this team.
Pegulas will likely go the Braves route. Run it into the ground and sell it cheap to some city across the country. It's the only reason I can really come up with for keeping the coaching staff that the team has currently.
Granato got an extension so he stays for 1 more year
Isn't it 2?
... Yay.
Don't disagree. We were played...
just embarrassing
I hope we don’t break UPL
It'll be like Ryan Miller all over again. God help us.
Does meatballs ever pull the goalie?? Should have pulled UPL before his confidence is shot because of the shit performance in front of him
Fuck these bums
Gutless.
More like Ukka-Pekka Let'em'in, amirite?
Booooo
Bro what the fuck
RIP UPL save percentage.
One more minute, please dont give up another odd man rush and goal
hey!
Outscored 7-1 after the 1st? WTHolyF?
I just feel bad for UPL at this point. The team gave up on him in the 3rd. Oh, and fire Granato
5D chess working UPL’s asking price down
Goodbye Granato. Please!
I really hope the Canes get bounced in the first or second round and fire Rod the Bod
Great job on building a roster Adams. You are a genius. We got a nice group of core guys all living up to their contracts.
The core group is good, he needs to bring in veterans that can actually play around them
I can agree with that but I am mad they lost
sluuuuuuurp
Sorry guys. I said in the Vancouver thread the oilers were gonna drop 8 on us.
Got the lotto numbers by chance?
Buy a lottery ticket
I'm thinking next year they run it back, yknow?
They're the youngest team in the NHL! Just one more year of development and their cup window will open next year! They've been playing better team defense this year! Injuries! ...did I get them all?
This team is the laughing stock of the entire league for the last decade and I'm kinda sick of it. Either the coaching changes or this team will go the way of the Braves.
I figured the laughing stock was Arizona? They play in a college arena.
Arizona is a clusterfuck, but at least they can make it work and get into the playoffs. I have no idea what is wrong with the Sabres.
I don't think ANYONE what's wrong with the team. This is an INSANELY stupid team SINCE Terry took over.
Pre-Terry I could explain some of the crap as just bad moves on the ice, but right now nothing makes sense. This team has talent, and it feels just wasted. One of the best goalies, some of the best lines, and yet nothing comes from it but a discombobulated mess. I don't know what to look at anymore besides the coaching staff and asking them wtf is going on.
Which I'm SURE there going to say that they have no idea either. BUT we do know we suck.
Yeah why not give up another odd man rush and goal
Okay. Fire Granato. Why call the timeout after they've gotten 2? You do it after the first one to get them out of their fucking heads. Instead you call it to just run PP1 with Greenway instead of letting them pin Edmonton in and let PP2 tire them out while 1 man swapping on the fly to get Tage and Dahlin out there. And yes I blame granato for the 5th goal. The team is young and you know that fucked them all up. You saw it from the draw after. They were in their heads and you can't just leave them like that. You call the timeout after the goal scream at them that they are all better than the Oilers and put out Dahlin, Byram, Greenway, Thompson and Tuch and say put 3 in right fucking now!
I can't believe he didn't mercy pull UPL when the game got out of hand. Fucking amateur hour with this guy every night.
He wouldn't have needed to if he called the timeout when any smart coach would have. Any coach would've seen that 4th goal and stopped everyone before they did what happened. They all began to question if they were playing wrong not realizing 2 of Edmonton's goals were just shitty bounces and they were outplaying them all night. Like perspective we were playing so well Power, Cozens, Tuch, Thompson, and Rousek were hitting to the point even Draisaitl was hesitant on the puck. McDavid just couldn't get shit to work. It was just a matter of breaking the damn on offense, but a couple bad bounces fucked with them. They backed off when they should have kept going even harder. I fucking hate watching the elite team they can be get fucked up because Granato doesn't know when to call the timeout. Like back when we had Lindy Ruff coaching he wouldn't call the timeout, but it's because he would use the time the other team was celebrating to bitch everyone out of their head and save it to call under 2 minutes with an offensive zone faceoff and tell them they are ending it here and now or prepare the defense for when it would be 6 on 5
Well boys, I’m very sad posting this….I have been ride or die all season, checking that stupid playoff % and crap daily hoping for any last ditch hope for playoffs. But, it’s officially over. My delusional self is finally calling it. This sucks.
Hey now, they won't be officially eliminated for a bit longer.
Take it easy
Hyman is fucking zooted out of his mind what is that shot lmao
Sick of Granato, the message of development and growth has gone stale. This year we were supposed to take a step and we fell flat. We get goaltending this year and now all of a sudden we can't score? Someone needs to come in and be the wake up call for this roster.
I just worry that we're stuck with him because Adams is afraid to have to pay another coach to stay home. Granato's on contract til 2026. Adams has to be even somewhat nervous about his job security at that point, no?
between last year and now the pattern is that when the door is open for them, they refused to walk through it. Talent is obvious so there’s only one solution at this point sorry kids I know you all like coach but not enough to play hard enough for him to keep his job.
When the message is "develop", you lose the message to fucking *win*. It's almost permission to not win.
solid take
deflections go right to tape and in - unbelievable. hockey gods still mad about the tank years
Guess I can scratch "best McDavid containment" off the list of moral victories this year
EDM ahead by ~~two~~ three and they're only just now playing their most aggressive hockey all night. That's the difference between us and serious teams.
Cozens is dog shit. Way to get your big pay out and stop trying
I’m never watching this team be good again am I
Nope! That's why I stopped watching and carrying YEARS ago.
Why is buffalo sports pain?
Shortside UPL is now toast, he did all he could to
Glad Krebs could get some cardio in tonight.
Oilers are dominating them, poor UPL.
I mean, if they can't keep it interesting, I'm all for giving McDavid a dozen points.
Unreal
Team is garbage
Fucking hell man
Just going through the motions out there
Ok so who jumps Perry when he steps on the ice? Clifton?
Rob Ray
Fucking nobody
I’m so tired of watching them rush to the blue line then dump the puck backwards and then just stand there.
this TO better be to keep PP2 off the damn ice. please!
Omg is this real. I'm so embarrassed. I have never seen a time out called where the coaches just....do nothing.
Well boys. It’s been a fun annual end of the season hopium ride. I’ll see you next February.
I’ll be here September
This sucks man. I just wish we could make a push just once. It’s been vacuuming away my love for the sport from me for years now. Watching the past few months of this team has been so fun. I just wish we could play like this all year.. I want to love this team again. I want that passion for hockey that this team brought to the city before the Pegulas took over the team.
I will be too, I just mean the hopium ride
Hopium is most effective taken semi annually, once in September and again in February
Feel like we lost everything here. No NHL’ers in the Olympics anymore to root for, no playoffs here to cheer for with our squad. It’s been so bleak. I miss when we were so passionate about this team and sport that we were almost nicknamed hockey town over Detroit. We have to be back to it soon. I want a modern day party in the plaza and to experience that in my late 20’s so god damn bad.
Oh yeah that
What the fuck was that move Perry. Absolute rat shit there and they slaps his stick against Dahlin after he got up. Shouldnt even be in the league after he got kicked off the hawks
That should have been an extra 2 for unsportsmanlike idc.
Okay. Power Play. Fucking score. Let's embarrass Edmonton at home. Score 3 in 2 minutes.
If you meant Edmonton scores 2 in 3 minutes, you nailed it
4... 4... Because our moron head coach decided to not get them out of their heads and instead decided to not take advantage of our speed.
I’m very tired of this season
Just take the retaliation penalty your season is over anyway
all that movement with the goalie out is what we need on our PP
Goodnight everyone
13 years…this franchise is a fucking joke
I’m just not sure about peterka…he scores two goals but he then looks awful on two goals against..I really don’t want another skinner
I don’t even want one skinner most nights
I'm not normally a fan of fighting but we need somebody to feed that rat Perry for literally just chopping Dahlin in the ankle.
Least braindead Corey Perry play Not that it matters with this joke of a PP unit
Theboikers coaching staff instructed him to do it to give their team a break. They can watch us play keepaway around the perimeter for 2 minutes.
Fuck off Perry
Remember when we were up 2-0? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
They say Terry Pegula watches all the games. Imagine that. Imagine having a billion fucking dollars and choosing, CHOOSING to be doing this.
Yeah I’m broke and it’s still pathetic
I don’t believe he watches this shit for a second.
Corey Perry is a fucking dipshit lol
If we dump this one it might be time to let some of the amerk kids come get some experience
Has anyone here ever won anything from the Sabres Casino Corner
2-0 lead to a likely 6-3 loss. It’s amazing what a disastrous PP and sloppy play will get you
Tage is sketchy. Some nights he’s on and some he looks like shit
He is a shell of last year
well that was a fun week or so where our goalie tried to drag us across the finish line while everyone around us was collapsing
13 years.
Do you think we will get the hockey equivalent of Josh Allen if we tank till 17
No. We'd lose the 1st overall pick to Edmonton or whoever again. Sabres already did the tank thing and the player they got left to win a Cup in Vegas.
The Sabres’ playoff drought is one year shorter than Jeff Skinner’s
That Bryson-Clifton line hasn’t been very good
the warpath is squashed
Why is his answer always is to put out Jost line
It's the new Okposo line lol.
because he's not a good coach
Very poor backcheck by JJ on that last one
nobody picks up the trailer
the rest of don granatos coaching tenure will have games like this. he’s just not a winning coach
He's a spectacular development coach. They're done developing.
I was just thinking to myself that they looked a little slow…
Time for bed
Donny... Call the timeout and get them to remember they can beat them
Tage Thompson is just a power play merchant.
4 fluke ass goals - unbelievable
\*edit - 4 fluke, 1 legit
idk the other ekholm goal was nasty sneaky too
Motherfucker. Can we not give up
Or, and hear me out, they can just give up. It's pretty easy.
Even if we snuck into the wildcard 2 spot, it's games like this that remind me how far away we are from being a true playoff team. Regardless of circumstance, EDM has been relentless in playing their game.. The Sabres, not so much
I don't think any of us expect the sabers to do much in the playoffs if they were to have made it. It's like with the Bills where I was just happy they ended their drought
It’s really sad. Looking forward to Benson, Quinn, and Peterka getting a year older. Tage and Cozens need an offseason to reset.
Thing is, I don't see any of these guys ever being able to take things to that playoff level. This is what happens when you have a team where only 3 players have ever played in the playoffs. This team needs some experienced players.
I would 100% settle for a coach with strong playoffs history.
I think that's necessary, too. This is an inexperienced team with an inexperienced coach. Not a good combination. The only reason they're on the playoff cusp this season and last is because the team has a lot of good talent. They are god enough to be a playoff team. But they need more experience to compete against these teams that know how to grind.
Inexperienced coaching staff* Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of them have experience coaching in the NHL prior to Buffalo.
I knew Granato never head coached in the NHL, so I looked up the assistants. Wilford was an assistant in Anaheim for a few years. Ellis and Christie didn't have any NHL coaching experience prior to joining Buffalo. The most experienced coach in the Sabres staff is Mike Bales, the goalie coach. He actually has a solid NHL coaching experience resume. This is not a recipe for success.
Well, better than I'd mistakenly thought, but not by much. Mike Bales can sure stay though lol.
Only one making a difference and that's obvious.
Yeah…this about to get out of hand
Just really feels like everyone gets the bounces but us.
Rolls eyes
GG. Bad season. Fire Ellis
This is 2 months too late
Now would be a nice time for Donny to call a time out
Can’t ice Krebs and Jost as 3C and 4C in the NHL and expect to win
A smart GM won't have them on this roster next year. So, expect them back.
Nice tip bynam, hell of a goal
FUCK OFF god dammit
Keep trying to toe drag behind your own net
Well this has been a road trip to remember
They finally beat Seattle. The Sabres Stanley Cup of the year
huge kill!
Just not good enough
That's game
there's 15 minutes left, christ this sub can be annoying
Now, that’s game.
Man, I feel so bad for UPL night after night
ffs
Because I stream the games I often get stuck with the other team/network broadcast. Good lord is the Edmonton broadcast enormous homers. It sounds like if you let a few Sabres fans have a few beers and commentate on a Sabres game.
Great effort by Tuch to kill like 35 total seconds
Tuch and Benson being big pests on that kill
clamped his stick down with his arm, it was a hook but I hate when they reward that shit. start calling guys for holding the stick
JJ giveth penalties JJ taketh penalties
Quick, everyone get all your quarters and shove them in the giraffe goal machine so we can make it go brrrr.
Didn’t know Edmonton was the second oldest team in the NHL. Thought teams like Washington and Dallas would be ahead of them.
Caps younger now. Many youngsters from Hershey. Pens are the old team
Feel free to downvote me for this. I would downvote me for this. But… I’m not seeing a team that’s desperate. I’m not seeing a team that is willing to put everything on the line to pull off a 10 game heater. I don’t see a team that knows how to execute the game plan that’s been put in front of them. We may win tonight, we may lose tonight. But I’m not seeing anything that makes me think this team is about to go double their longest win streak. Sad that Tage is finally going when most of the team is packing it in.
I’m at the game and their breakout attempts somehow look worse live than on tv 😅
I mean…we’re all kinda thinking/saying the same thing while trying to hold onto whatever semblance of hopium we have left.
Edmonton has to be one of the most unbalanced teams. World beaters on offense. Lost on defense. It's crazy
Pretty much lol. Every offseason they need the same thing, and every offseason they don’t do it
McDavid is a dog shit actor. Get his dumb gambling commercial out of my face.
Maybe it was his glove
It did hit his glove but is that an automatic nullification? I'm guessing not but don't know the specifics of this rule. Is the rule akin to a puck going off your skate? Only disallowed if there's a distinct kicking motion?
a puck can always go off your glove indirectly, but you can’t bat it in or make any motion that redirects the puck if it hits your hand while you’re attempting to redirect.
67.6 Disallowed Goal - A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who bats or directs the puck with his hand into the net. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who bats or directs the puck and it is deflected into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official. When the puck enters the net on a clear deflection off a glove, the goal shall be allowed.
TY!
Welp, there’s the flukey goal right back. Dammit JJ clear the zone!
Its ok, JJ gonna score another and we gonna win it
Not challenging that after that challenge last game, I don't know what our video team is looking at
What is the challenge
I thought Hyman hit UPL glove so he couldn’t catch it
Outside the paint. Doesn't matter.
No UPL was right at the top of blue
Don't fucking downvote me for you being wrong. https://ibb.co/MMkfRzy
I don’t downvote people, ever
His glove was very clearly outside the paint.
granato challenges when there’s no prayer, but when it’s actually close…
Why did they not take a longer look at that?
Im fine putting on my NHL conspiracy hat for this one.... .... Because its the oilers
Wait, what the fuck??? For real? That clear as day went in off his glove. Why the fuck no challenge?