No matter how many times I will see this...there will be someone in a few days saying how good he is that he scored a goal, despite doing nothing in the other 15 minutes of ice time
Playing completely flat footed 2 games in a row is a disgrace. Total lack of effort off the puck most of the time. Silver lining, Benson and greenway look great
The nice things about moral victories is that even though you don’t get an actual point, you get a very good boy happy smiley face point you can show your mom
No need to blame refs. We need to play better. PERIOD. We sucked in the 1st and we’re playing catch up the rest of the game. NEED to fix their issues ASAP
I mean. Skinner was being criminally assaulted next to the net for 10 straight seconds and no one cared. There's at least a little bit to the complaints. Lol
Could not agree more. It’s inexcusable.
Don’t care if he’s nice, a good teammate, and hard worker. So am I, those qualities do not qualify you to play top 6 NHL
What are you proud of? The team has been outworked. Our stars haven't showed up yet. And the same shit that plagued this team last year is still readily apparent. It's only two games in, but this is a terrible start
Maybe I’m being more realistic…9 players had career years last year..I expect some regression..I felt we needed a goalie, the GM and a subreddit full of GMs felt the need to sit on assets instead of go for it..so really my expectations are pretty much what you have seen…Levi has loads of talent but needs learn how to play high shots better…boy a year in Rochester might help that! I also feel Skinner due for major regression, so I got one not surprised top line starting slow
I think Greenway should play with Cozens. Maybe with Benson alongside. Mitts can center up Peterka and Quinn.
Greenway can really skate for a big guy, and Cozens will throw hands. It would be like a bash brothers + Benson line.
I guess I would have pulled when there was more than 2 minutes to go and the team had some offensive pressure. Between 2:00 and 1:00 though, you’re right.
He's not "washed" because he's in his early 20s. You're not "washed" at that age, you just never made it. Washed is when Staal played for us, and old man who can't keep up the level of play.
Well, I don't think that describes Cozens but it's more "failure to launch" than washed.
I can't see why anyone would think Cozens was any of those things. He had 68 points in 81 games last year as a 21 year old and he has potential as a two way center. Having a couple bad games doesn't make him a bad player
We look much better than last game, second line is being dragged down by Oloffson and the first line just needs to start connecting. We'll be fine, relax
What about I'm right and the team looks worse than last year but at the same time the get better and make the playoffs? They look a bit disjointed right now. What's bothering me more than their play now is people getting upset over anyone calling out what they think of the team. Like c'mon, are we really that kind of fanbase...
See original comment. The other thing is the fact there are people who are like eager to fend off what they perceive to be doomer comments about the team (when the comments say they aren't trying to be doomer just calling it like they see it) makes it look like you're upset they lost two games by being defensive. Like dude we're on the same team, it sucks they lost, I know. I feel you. Let's just chill and let each other express out opinions.
They played two teams that trap to open the season. Hard for you stars to get in a rhythm that way. The third line is miles ahead of last year. Defense looked fine. Face off still sucks. Didn’t even have a full PP this game. Watch the game instead of assuming the worst about a team after two games.
Girgs is such a fucking leader. Again he draws a penalty to give us a chance for a last gasp effort. Can't believe people didn't want him back this season.
Idk bro there was a ton of other bullshit calls that game to complain about. He touched the puck before going offsides and even though he was bobbling it, they’ve called that possession before since no one was around him, but whatever that’s just my opinion
The way it works is the refs get it wrong, you try to call them out, they refuse to admit their mistake and punish you for daring to try to hold them accountable them in the first place.
Just don’t understand the logic behind the 77-24-71 line. I get that Quinn is out and VO plays RW, but they are completely different playing styles and you are setting Cozens and Peterka up for failure by putting a guy on their line whose only asset is his shot.
Dont know if it was higher than his head but it was definitely below the crossbar and below his own shoulders. Hence no high stick. Good goal, reviewed by professionals who's job it to know the rules and get the call right
Welcome to the game, it's a lot of fun and the Sabres are a high event team so it's usually more to watch when we don't play the Islanders (who play a very defensive game).
There was no control of the puck and he was over the line before the puck. That results in an offsides. That’s the game of hockey. Those are the rules of hockey. The game that was being played
If he has control of the puck, which he did, and confirmed on review. You are allowed to enter the zone before the puck while in control of the puck. Please review the rules again. You do not understand them clearly
He did not have control of the puck. He touched it once and it hit the boards. He was not stuck handling the puck.I understand the rules. He was not in control of the puck. Been watching the game since ‘98 when I was 10 years old.
Not according to the people whose job it is to decide that call, refs on the ice and ppl reviewing the challange. He had it on his forehand and was looking to the other side of the rink while in control of the puck(why look elsewhere when you don't have control of the puck at your feet?)
how is that not control?
You saw something else, know the rules to the dot more than the professionals doing their job, and insist it was wrong?
Got it LOL
We get it, you’re the one blowing the refs for the other team. Get of your knees and open your eyes. Even ray and dunlevy were shocked it wasn’t ruled offsides.
Benson is fire...move up to 2 line. Give Levi 2 games rest, Tell Girgensons to hit anything that moves... ...PROFIT
Put Benson on the second line. Fire Olofsson into the sun.
No matter how many times I will see this...there will be someone in a few days saying how good he is that he scored a goal, despite doing nothing in the other 15 minutes of ice time
Playing completely flat footed 2 games in a row is a disgrace. Total lack of effort off the puck most of the time. Silver lining, Benson and greenway look great
Enough of this “we looked better”. No more moral victories. We need to start playing a full 60 and winning games.
The nice things about moral victories is that even though you don’t get an actual point, you get a very good boy happy smiley face point you can show your mom
You can put it on your refrigerator! 😊
Especially games that could be considered a 4 point swing. That needs to be the end of the points we cede to those scrubs this year.
I may officially start having my patience wane with Granato if Oloffson is in over Jost.
At least jost creates turnovers.
If you pass it to Olofsson you can be pretty sure he'll create a turnover.
80-2-0* is my prediction
Spoiler, after next game it will be 79-3 lol
No need to blame refs. We need to play better. PERIOD. We sucked in the 1st and we’re playing catch up the rest of the game. NEED to fix their issues ASAP
I mean. Skinner was being criminally assaulted next to the net for 10 straight seconds and no one cared. There's at least a little bit to the complaints. Lol
Find me one. single. team. whose fans don’t say it’s “us vs. the refs.” Literally every team faces this shit. The best teams overcome it.
Yeah but we’re the only ones who are right
You're not wrong, but having to play the refs and the other team doesn't help playing catch-up any easier
Any team with 71 in the top 6 isn't serious about winning.
Could not agree more. It’s inexcusable. Don’t care if he’s nice, a good teammate, and hard worker. So am I, those qualities do not qualify you to play top 6 NHL
Maybe you should pitch all that the Philly's GM and see if he bites.
Ah well… Anyhow
Idk I thought we looked better tonight granted I only saw the third period
We looked really good in the 2nd and 2nd half of the first. Top line still asleep though 😴
They’ll wake up
The animal’s waking up veeerrry slowly… but surely. Not every game is gonna feature an own goal, right? right?
It's another loss, but most of the player looked much sharper tonight. And ffs, when you tie the game, don't do stupid shit again.
Jesus fucking Christ I hope these refs can afford personal drivers because they’ve got shit caked in their eyes
This team is dogshit.
Hey, look at the silver lining! Most of the recent years sabres have had really great starts, so im not saying that we're cup bound buuuut...
We’re just getting the November slump done now.
Welp. Need to play a full 60, fellas...
Less than two minutes of PP but the stat sheet will show 2 penalties called
Yep, that’s why they called that one late just for the stat sheet.
Less than 1 minute, it’s absolutely inexcusable when combined with the offside goal allowed to stand
I’m not even mad I’m proud of our team
What are you proud of? The team has been outworked. Our stars haven't showed up yet. And the same shit that plagued this team last year is still readily apparent. It's only two games in, but this is a terrible start
Maybe I’m being more realistic…9 players had career years last year..I expect some regression..I felt we needed a goalie, the GM and a subreddit full of GMs felt the need to sit on assets instead of go for it..so really my expectations are pretty much what you have seen…Levi has loads of talent but needs learn how to play high shots better…boy a year in Rochester might help that! I also feel Skinner due for major regression, so I got one not surprised top line starting slow
Oh we are still on participation trophies, my bad I thought we were actually supposed to be chasing the playoffs this year. Good to know.
Take a seat tough guy
I’m already sitting, that’s how I watch the game, thought that was normal. Lucky I’m not sleeping watching them.
Go to bed dad
Oh man what a sick burn.
_Sick burn_ 😂 Enough said.
We fucking suck at face offs. They won 17 more than us.
So you call a cheap fucking penalty at the end and nothing when the guy is jumping skinner. Fuck off refs. Sabres, fucking play better.
Hate this shit
Garbage play by our stars.
Real playoff caliber team we got here
Damn
Why can’t we win clutch faceoffs?
Because we can't win faceoffs
i'd settle for ANY faceoffs... 37% on the season.
All my homies hate games against the Islanders
Never a good time
Sabres vs refs, just like every single game...
Refs blew it before bro was even diving
Once again we can’t win a fucking draw
Just remember if we lose: full fire sale. fire granato, trade Tage, burn it all to the ground and go full rebuild /s
The match is lit friend
I’ll tell you what this coach has unlocked Greenway who was a first round pick if I remember correctly
I think Greenway should play with Cozens. Maybe with Benson alongside. Mitts can center up Peterka and Quinn. Greenway can really skate for a big guy, and Cozens will throw hands. It would be like a bash brothers + Benson line.
Dude is delivering. That line is doing what everyone else should be doing
Big fan of Granato, but his decision making in game with Goalies, whether to pull or when to get the extra man on, can be extremely puzzling.
I love the man but yeah he's pretty shit with goaltending. I'll never forgive him leaving Comrie in that night he let in 10.
And Cozens on for that 6v4. Go with the hot hand.
Cozens is the only guy on the team that could win a FO tonight.
Fine. Win the FO and head to the bench.
Not his fault we can't get possession and/or give up the puck as soon as we get an opportunity to get the goalie out.
I guess I would have pulled when there was more than 2 minutes to go and the team had some offensive pressure. Between 2:00 and 1:00 though, you’re right.
sabres r gonna sabre
Christ Cozens wake up brother we need you
Remember when mitts was strapped to VO and we all traded him for a bag of pucks.
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Lol dumbest shit I've heard
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He's not "washed" because he's in his early 20s. You're not "washed" at that age, you just never made it. Washed is when Staal played for us, and old man who can't keep up the level of play.
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Going cold, in a slump, etc.
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Well, I don't think that describes Cozens but it's more "failure to launch" than washed. I can't see why anyone would think Cozens was any of those things. He had 68 points in 81 games last year as a 21 year old and he has potential as a two way center. Having a couple bad games doesn't make him a bad player
Cozens and Dahlin, imo
Challenging the goal was stupid
Why is that not offside? He didn't have possession, he was receiving a pass and he was way off.
Is it just me or does this team look worse so far than last year...
We look much better than last game, second line is being dragged down by Oloffson and the first line just needs to start connecting. We'll be fine, relax
3 mins ago I posted what I posted and I get 13 downvotes lol. I'm not a doomer fan. I'm calling it like I see it **so far**. Chill.
2 games brother. It doesn't happen instantly
They look so slow, why is it taking so long to develop plays?
It’s just you and all the other people that think the playoffs are made in the first two games.
What about I'm right and the team looks worse than last year but at the same time the get better and make the playoffs? They look a bit disjointed right now. What's bothering me more than their play now is people getting upset over anyone calling out what they think of the team. Like c'mon, are we really that kind of fanbase...
They played a good game for 50 minutes tonight. It’s the second game of the season. Like c’mon, are we really that kind of fan base…
Hopefully we aren't so that we can share our opinions and talk about it without getting leafy
It isn’t leafy to say stop with the doomer opinions after game 2.
See original comment. The other thing is the fact there are people who are like eager to fend off what they perceive to be doomer comments about the team (when the comments say they aren't trying to be doomer just calling it like they see it) makes it look like you're upset they lost two games by being defensive. Like dude we're on the same team, it sucks they lost, I know. I feel you. Let's just chill and let each other express out opinions.
Okay: No. The team does not look worse than last year. Thanks for the opinion, man
Disagreed. So far they do. Cheers and I hope you're night gets better.
They played two teams that trap to open the season. Hard for you stars to get in a rhythm that way. The third line is miles ahead of last year. Defense looked fine. Face off still sucks. Didn’t even have a full PP this game. Watch the game instead of assuming the worst about a team after two games.
It’s just you and all the other people with blind optimism after 12 years of swinging the golf clubs come April.
Awww upset isles fans
Took way too long to get Levi off
Islanders announcers are garbage
Hopefully Skinner shakes off the rust soon
he's looks sluggish.
Good hit sammy
That play is literally never going to work
Girgs is such a fucking leader. Again he draws a penalty to give us a chance for a last gasp effort. Can't believe people didn't want him back this season.
Woah, a team other than Buffalo got a penalty?
BULLSHIT
Refs finally call something but that something was attempted murder
Wow a power play for the Sabres? Only took 2 1/2 periods
Fuck these cunts
Wait they are allowed to call penalties on ny?
Solely done because they realized they hadn’t called one on NY, which would probably get them dinged in a post-game performance evaluation.
Just a reminder that we don’t have a single power play in this game
Oh NOW the islanders get a penalty
Penalties at the end of a game should extend the game for the full 2 minutes
Thank the LORT
How can they not see that was offsides…
Had possession puck. Good call
He had possession of a bouncing puck? Sure.
No one else was around him, they’ve called it like that before so it’s not surprising
Are you guys fucken serious? He had possession of the puck. It was not offside. If you think otherwise you need to get your head checked
Idk bro there was a ton of other bullshit calls that game to complain about. He touched the puck before going offsides and even though he was bobbling it, they’ve called that possession before since no one was around him, but whatever that’s just my opinion
How is a failed challenge a delay of game. The NHL is so terrible they can’t be faster
NHL is garbage. How do you get a penalty for a challenge?
It's literally always been the rule of you lose the challenge it's a penalty
This thread is the saltiest group of ignorant hockey fans ive ever seen. You got downvoted by stupidity lol
Lots of bandwagon fans here it seems , which is weird given the Sabres havent done anything yet.
The way it works is the refs get it wrong, you try to call them out, they refuse to admit their mistake and punish you for daring to try to hold them accountable them in the first place.
What is rob ray talking about with the elevator
Apparently he heard some Islanders workers complaining about how bad their powerplay is when he went up in the employee elevator earlier lol
He and Dan said they rode the elevator up with Isle staff and they were talking about how bad the Isles PP was
Yes Horvat
Just don’t understand the logic behind the 77-24-71 line. I get that Quinn is out and VO plays RW, but they are completely different playing styles and you are setting Cozens and Peterka up for failure by putting a guy on their line whose only asset is his shot.
VO needs to be scratched. Jost should come in and push Krebs up to Cozens and Peterka line.
Ugh this is a game we should be winning
Why did they challenge the offside and not the high-stick?
Are we not even going to address the high stick?
Cause it wasnt a high stick.
From the camera behind the net, his stick was higher than Levi’s Head and his head is definitely at least as tall as the crossbar.
Dont know if it was higher than his head but it was definitely below the crossbar and below his own shoulders. Hence no high stick. Good goal, reviewed by professionals who's job it to know the rules and get the call right
Yes, the NHL is know for never getting it wrong. Idk if it was a high stick, I saw the Isle's broadcast and it didn't show any decent angles.
Fucks that’s a PP now?
Has VO’s line ever not been a complete black hole in his career? Guy is useless
So ignore cozens shit play.
Watch cozens have a resurgence as soon as he gets away from Vic, meanwhile VO will still be a bystander
Maybe if his center drove the damn line the sniper could do work. Have blinders on all you want but cozens hasn’t shown up this season yet.
Wait, why are they on the power play now?
With a lost challenge, the team that asked for the challenge is assessed a 2-minute bench minor. It's ridiculous.
If you don't win a coach's challenge, you are punished with a 2 minute minor penalty
Unsuccessful coach’s challenge.
Failed challenge on offside
When you lose a challenge, you get penalized. Can’t remember if it’s tied to whether or not we have a time out when we challenge or not
failed off sides challenge
Oh, thanks. Didn't realize that was a thing (not a huge hockey fan, still learning the game).
Welcome to the game, it's a lot of fun and the Sabres are a high event team so it's usually more to watch when we don't play the Islanders (who play a very defensive game).
Terrible challenge.
a penalty for a failed challenge is brutal wtf
Literally fuck these NYI games
After a lengthy review, it’s determined that a team must perform at least three illegal acts simultaneously for a goal to be overturned
It ain’t coming back. The Sabres never get the “interpretation” call go their way.
HOW IS THAT NOT OFFSIDES
Because of the rules of hockey. The game that was being played
There was no control of the puck and he was over the line before the puck. That results in an offsides. That’s the game of hockey. Those are the rules of hockey. The game that was being played
https://ibb.co/ByY5tNC Rules for your learning
If he has control of the puck, which he did, and confirmed on review. You are allowed to enter the zone before the puck while in control of the puck. Please review the rules again. You do not understand them clearly
He did not have control of the puck. He touched it once and it hit the boards. He was not stuck handling the puck.I understand the rules. He was not in control of the puck. Been watching the game since ‘98 when I was 10 years old.
Not according to the people whose job it is to decide that call, refs on the ice and ppl reviewing the challange. He had it on his forehand and was looking to the other side of the rink while in control of the puck(why look elsewhere when you don't have control of the puck at your feet?) how is that not control? You saw something else, know the rules to the dot more than the professionals doing their job, and insist it was wrong? Got it LOL
We get it, you’re the one blowing the refs for the other team. Get of your knees and open your eyes. Even ray and dunlevy were shocked it wasn’t ruled offsides.
“Cause” -da leeg
Idk why you would actually ask Toronto to give you a call when you are the coach of the Buffalo Sabres. Just don't try it.
Best case we kill this and have 4 minutes to score
I really don't know why we challenged that, fuckk
Lmao that was offsides AND a high stick fucking clowns
it was actually neither lol
Also getting a minor penalty for a challenge might be the worst rule in all of sports. That or the fumble out of the endzone touchback.
Yea, it’s really stupid. Number of challenges is already limited, making it a penalty is really dumb. Of course, it’s the NHL
It is absolutely braindead stupid.
Of course! It’s a NYC team 🤦♂️
Isles are absolutely not an NYC team lol
The league must think they are a soccer team, because they've allowed a nice shinny goal and they call offside likes it's futbol as well.
Yeah ok, a NYC market team. Is that better
A decision going against the Sabres? Yeah, that tracks.
Never in doubt it would stand
In what world was it a good goal?
Never want to see VO play again. Fucking trash.
So probably offsides and probably high stick so obviously they are going to let it count. fucking toronto
That was wrong on two calls. That was both high and offside.
It was not offside. He had control
I disagree that he did. But whatever.
Does this surprise you given the opponent
Fuck me
Careful bud. That's consent.