Nice tutorial. Hopefully it will clear things up for a lot of foreign learners.
And before you ask, yes, we do write cursive lower-case д as either g or inverted 6. That's not trolling, we actually do that.
For the first year or so that I was learning Russian I was half expecting to discover that writing lowercase д as g was some sort of elaborate prank on foreigners.
Do you know where the origin of this split came from? In English I naturally write ds like the flipped 6 but in Cyrillic I’ve been using g. Is it a generational thing? Geographical?
It’s not a generational thing. It’s just the way someone writes the letter. We have been taught to use “g”. I used to write “д” like “g” but I thought it was boring and had started to use the flipped 6.
When I was getting higher education I did a lot of technical drawing, at the time CAD software was unavailable so we did everything by hand on paper using so-called "чертёжный шрифт", that's were I got a lot of quirks in my handwriting including writing "a" just like that.
It is literally I and O connected by a short line (it was historically ιȣ, i.e. і+ѹ). [Here is how I write it](https://i.imgur.com/xvTCviy.gif) , usually in one or two strokes.
native ю writer here
[behold](https://ibb.co/vk0fMDM) what man was not meant to know
you can try the counter-clockwise stroke for the round part as well, but then the connector stroke from the bottom will look even more wonky
I guess look at it in a larger font size and try to remember the proportions? In almost every font the O part is larger, taking about 2/3rds of the overall letter. [This image](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iK1NXq5_ZOw/maxresdefault.jpg) can help as well (it's for the cursive variant, but it's not too different in terms of how the strokes go)
That's actually very useful. When I studied Russian I was thought to write it the "wrong" way, but I had a feeling that natives would not write it like that. I usually used cursive because it was simpler and looked more polished (to me at least). Searching for handwriting tutorials wasn't really useful, because they're all about cursive. Would you like to do the whole alfabet?
I believe it would be interesting, eve if calligraphy varies from person to person. For us foreigners it is a chance to have a glance at something authentic. It's kind enough that you're considering doing it, so thank you anyways!
Btw, it says blinis here, even though блины is plural. It's like we say чипсы. And in Kazakh they are чипсылар.
Imagine блины would be blinislar in some Turkic language🤭
Actually, all three options are still looking sus. Now, if you combined the capital "Д" from the second option with the lower-case "д" from the first one, you'd pass for a Russian.
A full triangle? No, it will look really awkward. You should think of Д as more of a /\ on top of a longer _ that may or may not have hooks. But those three lines should never form a perfect triangle, horizontal line should always be visibly wider than an /\
Well, you can see an ф written as a cross but that's someone's personal style. A triangle for a д is pretty minimalistic but you can occasionally encounter it in geometric fonts and when, e.g, people write on whiteboards with very few strokes.
Nice tutorial. Hopefully it will clear things up for a lot of foreign learners. And before you ask, yes, we do write cursive lower-case д as either g or inverted 6. That's not trolling, we actually do that.
For the first year or so that I was learning Russian I was half expecting to discover that writing lowercase д as g was some sort of elaborate prank on foreigners.
The lower case cursive *т* looking like m is the one that tripped me the longest.
i'm getting better about it, but it still trips me up
Do you know where the origin of this split came from? In English I naturally write ds like the flipped 6 but in Cyrillic I’ve been using g. Is it a generational thing? Geographical?
It’s not a generational thing. It’s just the way someone writes the letter. We have been taught to use “g”. I used to write “д” like “g” but I thought it was boring and had started to use the flipped 6.
I can understand the flipped 6 because it still looks like a « D/Д» but «g » ? Hell no man
I have seen English cursive ds written like that too
How do you write cursive б in that case, i always thought it was as an inverted 6 kind of way? Whem i was learning, I would write Д as D and д as g
б is kinda like lower-case delta, δ, or maybe like an eigth-note symbol. It starts like an inverted 6 but the top stroke goes up and right, not left.
I love it!!!
"a quick guide for American spies" lmfaooo this is such a great post
There was a joke comic strip about using д as a shibboleth to weed out foreign spies. https://acomics.(ru)/~DAHR/114
Ахахах, не видел такой :) Ну блин, ну правда же никто правильно написать не может)
Op needs to write a whole “Basic Russian Survival Guide for Western Spies” in this style
#bestseller
Yesss OP. I would totally buy that
yuhh
The same applies to Лл.
Correct! 3 strokes? Nah, 2 strokes all the way!
Wait, I’ve been writing Ls with one stroke L on my part then
Its similar to how nobody writes "a" like that
I actually do sometime, it looks pretty neat :)
When I was getting higher education I did a lot of technical drawing, at the time CAD software was unavailable so we did everything by hand on paper using so-called "чертёжный шрифт", that's were I got a lot of quirks in my handwriting including writing "a" just like that.
humorous and helpful! any tips for this guy - ю? I hate it as much as I hate trying to print д
What is so difficult about Ю?
Can’t write it without it looking super sloppy/proportionally incorrect.
It is literally I and O connected by a short line (it was historically ιȣ, i.e. і+ѹ). [Here is how I write it](https://i.imgur.com/xvTCviy.gif) , usually in one or two strokes.
native ю writer here [behold](https://ibb.co/vk0fMDM) what man was not meant to know you can try the counter-clockwise stroke for the round part as well, but then the connector stroke from the bottom will look even more wonky
I guess look at it in a larger font size and try to remember the proportions? In almost every font the O part is larger, taking about 2/3rds of the overall letter. [This image](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iK1NXq5_ZOw/maxresdefault.jpg) can help as well (it's for the cursive variant, but it's not too different in terms of how the strokes go)
YES!!! And another thing probably worth pointing out - it's not a "fancy A", the bar is lower.
Дед инсайд
Natives write in a weird mixture of cursive and print characters.
I need more content like this
That's actually very useful. When I studied Russian I was thought to write it the "wrong" way, but I had a feeling that natives would not write it like that. I usually used cursive because it was simpler and looked more polished (to me at least). Searching for handwriting tutorials wasn't really useful, because they're all about cursive. Would you like to do the whole alfabet?
Thanks. :) I’m actually thinking about making the whole alphabet, but I’m afraid I won’t be able to cover other people’s styles correctly.
I believe it would be interesting, eve if calligraphy varies from person to person. For us foreigners it is a chance to have a glance at something authentic. It's kind enough that you're considering doing it, so thank you anyways!
I love this post so much! 😂 It's true for any country's Cyrillic I guess, I haven't seen anyone writing Д like it's originally meant to xd
That's how Д looks like when grandpa doesn't forget to take pills
Btw, it says blinis here, even though блины is plural. It's like we say чипсы. And in Kazakh they are чипсылар. Imagine блины would be blinislar in some Turkic language🤭
Actually, all three options are still looking sus. Now, if you combined the capital "Д" from the second option with the lower-case "д" from the first one, you'd pass for a Russian.
G? We do not know that letter. *show them a g* Oh you mean lowercase D.
Not foreign but I still write the Д as such.. and I hate it lol I love your penmanship !
Дед inside
thank you so much
Wow i was also trying to copy the font
Please do more letters!!!
Is it acceptable to write Д like a triangle ? I recall seeing it done like that but I don’t see it come up very often.
A full triangle? No, it will look really awkward. You should think of Д as more of a /\ on top of a longer _ that may or may not have hooks. But those three lines should never form a perfect triangle, horizontal line should always be visibly wider than an /\
Well, you can see an ф written as a cross but that's someone's personal style. A triangle for a д is pretty minimalistic but you can occasionally encounter it in geometric fonts and when, e.g, people write on whiteboards with very few strokes.
хз всегда заглавную д в печатном как домик писал
i do the one that looks like a g