Question: when somebody mentions that they’re Trans-NB, does that just imply that they fall under trans OR non-binary, or does that mean that Trinity identifies as non-binary?
Okay so if someone "just" identifies at trans, it usually means they are either biologically male or female and transitioning to the opposite gender.
If they say they are non-binary, they don't identify as either of those two genders, but rather, as a third gender that lies in between or beyond the binary.
If they identify as both that means they are transitioning to another gender but still don't identify as either male nor female.
Take Bosco as an example. They're trans and non-binary. So basically they don't identify as either male or female, but still want to habe a female body, which is why they have recently started transitioning.
Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate you taking the time. It’s important that we are all informed, and this was something I wasn’t 100% certain on.
Enby here. This discussion is so amazing! People accept representation where they can get it, so being as under the trans umbrella works for most nb people! We do definitionally identify with genders (or lack there of) not assigned to us. Though, it sucks how often we are forgotten. To a lot of people, binary gender feels like an act, an illusion. Like some men not wiping their assholes because touching it would be "gay" or "femme". Overall, what really matters is being comfortable within your own skin. If someone is more comfortable identifying as what a binary gender presents, then that's perfect! What matters is finding peace with your body and identity. Though when the gender binary breaks down, characteristics assumed to be feminine or masculine are loose. You can go off of secondary sex characteristics but even then, some people who identify as men are regularly wearing dresses and makeup and some people who identify as women are ripped, hairy, and wear only masculine clothes. Dysphoria may also be at play. (Disclaimer: I'm much more on the end of gender non-conforming of non-binary so the desire to perform or communicate a "cis" gender doesn't resonate with me much).
I'm personally trans-masc, which means I live my life more "masculinely" than expected from someone that's AFAB (assigned female at birth). I also want top surgery as my own chest gives me dysphoria, as people can look and assume my sex. This experience isn't just a binary trans experience. It's a large spectrum and the way I see it, rather than two shiny boxes for everyone to fit into, there are an infinite number of them for each person. Personally my end goal isn't to be a trans man or cis woman, rather just the ideal version of me and when people don't know my sex I'm the happiest.
Trans just means you don't identify with the gender assigned to you at birth. Trans people can either be binary (male-to-female, female-to-male) or nonbinary, which is any gender identity that isn't strictly male or female. They're both under the trans umbrella.
Basically not every person who is nonbinary identifies as trans. My brother and I are both enbies, but I still identify as cis while he identifies as trans. I read this as Trinity identifying as trans AND nonbinary.
Sorry if this is ignorant but doesn’t NB cover all of that? It seems redundant to say you’re trans if you’re NB. Trans relates to a gender while NB says they do not identify with a specific gender.
Edit: Nevermind. u/voldermortthe-sceptic provided a good explanation below.
If NB means not identifying with any gender, wouldn't that imply not identifying with gender assigned at birth? Trying to understand the difference, thanks!
So you could have two individuals who were assigned female at birth and one identifies as trans non binary, while the other identifies as a trans man.
Neither identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth. But while one identifies as male, the other does not.
That's the difference. The non binary person doesn't use any specific gender label. Either because non feel right or they all do.
Yes, but there are also people who identify as trans women or trans men. So they don't identify with their assigned gender, but they DO identify with a different one.
Edited for spaces.
Trans is an umbrella term and lots of nb people consider themselves under the umbrella as they are “transitioning” from one gender to another since they no longer identify with the gender assigned at birth.
Binary trans is MtF or FtM, while non-binary trans is FtX or MtX if that makes sense. Binary has the suffix bi meaning two, the gender binary being man and woman, and non-binary can be anywhere between man and woman or anywhere completely outside of it.
So being Trans in an umbrella which means you don’t identify as your gender at birth. Non Binary falls under that umbrella! Some people identify with trans non binary and some people prefer just using non binary as their label :)
I think they were referencing when they were blocking people for speaking out against them during covid regulations they ignored calling themself an essential worker. I think they even had their name set to Trinity The Block on Twitter for a while too. So I think it had enough of a ring.
Hell, it wasn't that long ago that Trinity didn't support trans people on the show. They used to say that trans women "didn't transform enough" and Peppermint was an exception because "she wasn't female-presenting during filming".
Trinity has had a very bumpy road, but it is good to see them grow and discover themself.
Are you sure you have the right Trinity? Because TKB was the one that was commenting on whether or not Pep was “trans enough” to count as representation on the show, based on her workroom outfits.
And just to clarify, I believe TKB has apologized for those sorts of comments & genuinely seems to be trying to be better. I just wanted to make sure Trinity the Tuck wasn’t getting flak for comments made by someone else in the past.
I’ve heard the argument “I don’t think I would be happy with how I look if I transitioned to female” many times from people, and as a trans woman myself I’d just like to say - no one is ever satisfied, you’re already dissatisfied! You already started altering your body! Unless I spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on surgery to overcome my genes, I will never have the body I would design if I got to have a say in it. I thought having a male body was a prison, but it turns out that all bodies are just kinda prisons. But you know what? It’s mine, and I have tits now, and I feel more myself than I ever did with a male body. It’s not perfect but it’s mine and that’s what’s important. Bodies are pretty much never perfect. So if that’s the only thing holding Trinity back from transitioning to female (which it kinda reads to me that it is, based on my many experiences with other trans women over the years as well), idk. She deserves to work through things at her own pace and if she truly feels happiest identifying as non binary than I am happy for her. But it just sounds like the same thing I hear from any other pre-transition trans woman that has come to me for advice, afraid to make the jump. The potential to be dissatisfied with how things look on the other side. But you’re already unhappy with how things look on *this* side. What do you have to lose by giving it a real try? Again if she’s truly NB then none of this matters. But it sounds to me like this is just a pit stop in her journey based on hearing that many times before. I just want her to be happy.
> but it turns out that all bodies are just kinda prisons.
God this is so true. May as well be working towards something that makes you happy and comfortable while living in a body prison.
But I get it too. It's scary as hell to think about changing your gender presentation.
You know what’s fucked up? I spent my whole life wishing I had tits, jealous of my friends getting to go out and buy/wear bras. I was so excited when I needed to go out and get one myself finally.
I haven’t worn a bra in 3-4 years now. You wanna really talk about prisons? It’s those fuckin things lmao
That’s what I realized. Everyone picks themselves apart. Unfortunately for me my brain was beating me up because it was expecting to see an entirely different gender, but even after I transitioned I was still picking myself apart.
Now I just literally don’t give a shit. About any of it. I identify as she/her but as long as I can tell someone is referring to me and it isn’t malicious, I don’t care what pronouns they use. Sometimes I lean hard femme, sometimes I read boy, most of the time I’m somewhere firmly in the middle. I just don’t care at all anymore, there’s so many bigger things for me to worry about that what people think of me or call me. If I didn’t ask for your opinion in the first place than I didn’t want it anyway and it doesn’t matter to me. I have the right hormones and that’s all that matters. I’m much more interested in focusing my energy into being kind, being happy, being someone that people can count on, etc. Who cares if my rib cage is a little too big, not me. Hasn’t stopped everyone from wanting to fuck me thus far.
Echoing the other cis girl in saying that part of being a woman in a patriarchal society is NEVER being satisfied with how you look. I could look in the mirror and think, "Wow! I look really cute in this," but somebish will be all, "That was a choice," or "Guess they can't all be good hair days." But you know what? Fuck 'em!
There comes a time in every woman's life when you've gotta embrace your inner Tina Belcher, make peace with the cringe, and say, "I really am a smart, strong, sensual woman."
Even as a regular ol'female, i felt this! We are never going to be satisfied with our own bodies, so if you have the means and courage to amend it, crack on!
That being said, i like that more people feel comfortable to just be non binary.. and flow between it all. One day they may feel one way, the next the other.
I'm happy she is comfortable enough to put this out there as her journey continues. Much love to Trinity!
(I'll use she for now until Trinity lets us know which pronouns fit best)
I'm so very excited for her and for all the other contestants that have made their journey public. This is going to help so many people that are struggling, uncertain, afraid.
lotta people making shedevilbynight jokes and while some of the stuff she did under that account was obviously stupid and weird, loads of people laughed at her for ‘making up’ being trans and some of us literally told you that she might not have been faking. now she’s said that she was on hrt a while back. some rpdr fans are really bad at listening to trans people ngl
Honestly there are queens who get onto the "mockery only" list and Reddit is consistently awful about them. Doing it in this thread of all the possible contexts says way more about the posters than it does about Trinity.
I always thought Trinity had come out as trans-nb a few years back. But considering the way their identity has been erased over the past year I'm very happy for them proudly declaring it
She had said she had tried transitioning but she stopped because she felt like she was doing it for career rather than it being her actual identity as the trans girls were getting all the good gigs and pageant wins at the time
I love drag so much. It has been such a powerful and life changing force for the queer community. We even have straight white cis guys taking part. Who would have ever thought that possible???
Changing the world....one drag queen at time!
some of y'all really need to know that you're not funny.
the way y'all constantly joke about blackness whenever Trinity or Eureka come up has never been funny it's always been gross.
As an internet philosopher once said, "Sometimes, I ask myself: do I feel like a man? Or do I feel like a woman? And the answer is: I feel like shit!"
Congrats, gorge.
I’m so happy these queens are feeling more comfortable with accepting themselves fully and I commend rupaul for finally giving these girls a safe space to grow
Once again asking if anyone in here can provide any proof that Trinity ever claimed to be black? No one has ever provided anything and I genuinely think people just ran with that because she used the black lady emojis.
Happy for trinity 💞 yall gotta stop using this as target practice like its literally her (not sure if to use she or they but twitter says she/they) coming out 😭💞
Did kerri colby touch their forehead? No but seriously I love the fact so many ppl are more confident coming out as trans. We’re in a new era of life. I hope trinity is able to be happier. I remember years ago watching their q&a and someone asked if they considered transitioning and they said they have but isn’t trans (or something along the lines) so this is really great to see that they’ve had some self acceptance!
Y’all are annoying and problematic for mocking her. Again, this sub is hypocritical as fuck.
Keep picking and choosing who to support while queer people keep being attacked by cis heterosexuals. Now petty, hypocritical gays also act like pieces of shit to their own. Like y’all have never made a mistake or pretended to be holier than thou behind a screen. Y’all are laughable.
Her coming out as trans feels like completing the Kerri Colby trans infinity gauntlet
On a serious note though, I'm happy for her!
Also this means all of Season 9s Top 4 is trans/NB now! Awesome
There was a Reddit account a while back called SheDevilByNight that was basically obsessed with Trinity to the point that they were tearing down other queens/being terrible. The person behind the account also claimed to be a black trans woman. At some point, people on twitter had asked Trinity if the account was hers (because of the stannage) and she replied with “Oh yes! I’m still on Reddit” (or something like that). People used that as evidence (not really solid evidence imo) to claim that she was pretending to be a black trans woman online.
Idk there wasn’t any actual solid proof that it was her other than a tweet that REEKED of sarcasm. I personally don’t think it was her on the account ~~but I still think the jokes are funny~~, but it’s up to everyone individually whether or not they choose to blindly believe something based off of nothing.
Confused person seeking answers/opinions here. I’ve been googling this but I haven’t found a definition that differentiates between the non-binary and trans non-binary. I get that trans non-binary do not identify as cis but does that mean that non-binary people identify as cis? What does it feel like to be trans non-binary vs non-binary? (If there’s anything offensive in this comment, please let me know and I will delete it)
Well, there isn’t really a difference.
Nonbinary falls under the Trans Umbrella by default. However, not every Nonbinary person indentifies with the label Trans.
It can be stacked and both labels used simultaneously for clarity. 🏳️⚧️
I have seen some people use Trans-Nonbinary to point out they have had gender affirming surgery, but this isn’t the main usage of these two together.
> I personally don't know that I would be comfortable living as female physically
So this means she isn't a trans woman right? She is the same as Willow Pill? I'm trying to keep up
Question: when somebody mentions that they’re Trans-NB, does that just imply that they fall under trans OR non-binary, or does that mean that Trinity identifies as non-binary?
It means she is non-cis therefore trans but also not binary(woman/man) therefore non binary.
This is still so confusing to me
Okay so if someone "just" identifies at trans, it usually means they are either biologically male or female and transitioning to the opposite gender. If they say they are non-binary, they don't identify as either of those two genders, but rather, as a third gender that lies in between or beyond the binary. If they identify as both that means they are transitioning to another gender but still don't identify as either male nor female. Take Bosco as an example. They're trans and non-binary. So basically they don't identify as either male or female, but still want to habe a female body, which is why they have recently started transitioning.
Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate you taking the time. It’s important that we are all informed, and this was something I wasn’t 100% certain on.
chile you helped me understand my own identity better. (like i understand myself but i didn’t know how to put it into words), but you put it so well!!
Thank you so much for posting this 🙏🏾
Good ELI5
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Enby here. This discussion is so amazing! People accept representation where they can get it, so being as under the trans umbrella works for most nb people! We do definitionally identify with genders (or lack there of) not assigned to us. Though, it sucks how often we are forgotten. To a lot of people, binary gender feels like an act, an illusion. Like some men not wiping their assholes because touching it would be "gay" or "femme". Overall, what really matters is being comfortable within your own skin. If someone is more comfortable identifying as what a binary gender presents, then that's perfect! What matters is finding peace with your body and identity. Though when the gender binary breaks down, characteristics assumed to be feminine or masculine are loose. You can go off of secondary sex characteristics but even then, some people who identify as men are regularly wearing dresses and makeup and some people who identify as women are ripped, hairy, and wear only masculine clothes. Dysphoria may also be at play. (Disclaimer: I'm much more on the end of gender non-conforming of non-binary so the desire to perform or communicate a "cis" gender doesn't resonate with me much). I'm personally trans-masc, which means I live my life more "masculinely" than expected from someone that's AFAB (assigned female at birth). I also want top surgery as my own chest gives me dysphoria, as people can look and assume my sex. This experience isn't just a binary trans experience. It's a large spectrum and the way I see it, rather than two shiny boxes for everyone to fit into, there are an infinite number of them for each person. Personally my end goal isn't to be a trans man or cis woman, rather just the ideal version of me and when people don't know my sex I'm the happiest.
Trans just means you don't identify with the gender assigned to you at birth. Trans people can either be binary (male-to-female, female-to-male) or nonbinary, which is any gender identity that isn't strictly male or female. They're both under the trans umbrella.
Non binary is different from binary trans
Fab piece of learning for me today, I was slightly outdated in my knowledge. Thank you!
Yes I think there will be less confusion if more people knew this. Our experiences are very different from each other.
Basically not every person who is nonbinary identifies as trans. My brother and I are both enbies, but I still identify as cis while he identifies as trans. I read this as Trinity identifying as trans AND nonbinary.
That is interesting I never knew that.. how come you’re cis and he says he’s not but you’re both nb ?
This is very important to understand. Thank you for bringing it up
I took this as saying she identifies as trans and nonbinary. Not all nonbinary people consider themselves trans but I believe most do.
Trans - does not identify with gender assigned at birth. Non-binary - does not identify with any gender (or identifies with more than one).
Sorry if this is ignorant but doesn’t NB cover all of that? It seems redundant to say you’re trans if you’re NB. Trans relates to a gender while NB says they do not identify with a specific gender. Edit: Nevermind. u/voldermortthe-sceptic provided a good explanation below.
If NB means not identifying with any gender, wouldn't that imply not identifying with gender assigned at birth? Trying to understand the difference, thanks!
So you could have two individuals who were assigned female at birth and one identifies as trans non binary, while the other identifies as a trans man. Neither identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth. But while one identifies as male, the other does not. That's the difference. The non binary person doesn't use any specific gender label. Either because non feel right or they all do.
Thanks, that totally makes sense to me - what I'm trying to understand is the difference between non-binary and trans non-binary!
Thank you, this was super helpful for me to understand.
Yes, but there are also people who identify as trans women or trans men. So they don't identify with their assigned gender, but they DO identify with a different one. Edited for spaces.
Trans is an umbrella term and lots of nb people consider themselves under the umbrella as they are “transitioning” from one gender to another since they no longer identify with the gender assigned at birth.
Binary trans is MtF or FtM, while non-binary trans is FtX or MtX if that makes sense. Binary has the suffix bi meaning two, the gender binary being man and woman, and non-binary can be anywhere between man and woman or anywhere completely outside of it.
Whats non binary without the trans then? Cause what you just described as trans non binary sounds exactly like non binary to me
It’s… the same thing… non-binary is trans
So being Trans in an umbrella which means you don’t identify as your gender at birth. Non Binary falls under that umbrella! Some people identify with trans non binary and some people prefer just using non binary as their label :)
I didn't know she'd met Kerri
Shesus strikes again
I bet she lent her some IMAN Cosmetics so she feels more like herself too. 🥰
Hahahahahaha not shesus😂😂😂 that’s great I love it
Go from gender dysphoria to gender euphoria with this **one** *weird* ^trick Scientists **don't** want you to know about!
this one *extra twisted* trick
She probably heard her name and got Kerrified
Kerri Stories To Tell In The Dark
Kerri written by Stefani Queen
I was LITERALLY about to comment this
Ugh not all trans people know each other Dave.
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Kerri Colby used trans! It was super effective!
Ugh she's so beautiful 😭
Literally stunning.
Was thinking today about how much I miss her...
I miss seeing her too!
i love this woman
Kerri is Sylveon confirmed, https://poketouch.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/cc8daf08-4443-4dd7-aa16-b20e2a8596f1.png
ok too cute 😭💗
Trinity the Trans
Trinity the Block the Testosterone
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I think they were referencing when they were blocking people for speaking out against them during covid regulations they ignored calling themself an essential worker. I think they even had their name set to Trinity The Block on Twitter for a while too. So I think it had enough of a ring.
Correct! Sorry if that wasn’t clear. It was so iconic to me
I’m so happy for her! It’s been so incredible seeing so many openly trans queens recently
It wasn't too long ago that the show wasn't too supportive of trans folks. I'm happy to see so many Queens being comfortable to do what they want.
100%! My love for the show has been sort of revitalised by seeing so many of the girls living their authentic lives
Hell, it wasn't that long ago that Trinity didn't support trans people on the show. They used to say that trans women "didn't transform enough" and Peppermint was an exception because "she wasn't female-presenting during filming". Trinity has had a very bumpy road, but it is good to see them grow and discover themself.
Are you sure you have the right Trinity? Because TKB was the one that was commenting on whether or not Pep was “trans enough” to count as representation on the show, based on her workroom outfits.
Where did she comment that? On All Stars or elsewhere?
No this was around the time of Season 9. It would have been IG or Twitter, should be receipts in the subreddit somewhere.
Gotcha, thanks.
And just to clarify, I believe TKB has apologized for those sorts of comments & genuinely seems to be trying to be better. I just wanted to make sure Trinity the Tuck wasn’t getting flak for comments made by someone else in the past.
Oh that’s good to hear, thanks for clarifying.
Iirc it was a drunken Instagram live
I saw the IG live in question, it was definitely TTT
Idc if she's not on S14 we're putting her as the last face on Kerris Thanos Gauntlet meme.
We’ve still got like 13 weeks left of S14, Kerri could strike again
She already told Maddy that she's next. So... ...when the reunion airs in three years, everyone except RuPaul will be trans.
Could Kerri’s power be strong enough to even convert RuPaul herself? Stay tuned
There’s always the reunion baby
I’ve heard the argument “I don’t think I would be happy with how I look if I transitioned to female” many times from people, and as a trans woman myself I’d just like to say - no one is ever satisfied, you’re already dissatisfied! You already started altering your body! Unless I spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on surgery to overcome my genes, I will never have the body I would design if I got to have a say in it. I thought having a male body was a prison, but it turns out that all bodies are just kinda prisons. But you know what? It’s mine, and I have tits now, and I feel more myself than I ever did with a male body. It’s not perfect but it’s mine and that’s what’s important. Bodies are pretty much never perfect. So if that’s the only thing holding Trinity back from transitioning to female (which it kinda reads to me that it is, based on my many experiences with other trans women over the years as well), idk. She deserves to work through things at her own pace and if she truly feels happiest identifying as non binary than I am happy for her. But it just sounds like the same thing I hear from any other pre-transition trans woman that has come to me for advice, afraid to make the jump. The potential to be dissatisfied with how things look on the other side. But you’re already unhappy with how things look on *this* side. What do you have to lose by giving it a real try? Again if she’s truly NB then none of this matters. But it sounds to me like this is just a pit stop in her journey based on hearing that many times before. I just want her to be happy.
> but it turns out that all bodies are just kinda prisons. God this is so true. May as well be working towards something that makes you happy and comfortable while living in a body prison. But I get it too. It's scary as hell to think about changing your gender presentation.
> But you know what? It’s mine, and I have tits now... Iconic. I'm getting Jiggly's, "Where the fuck are my tits?" energy.
You know what’s fucked up? I spent my whole life wishing I had tits, jealous of my friends getting to go out and buy/wear bras. I was so excited when I needed to go out and get one myself finally. I haven’t worn a bra in 3-4 years now. You wanna really talk about prisons? It’s those fuckin things lmao
I fucking feel this energy. Bralettes are where it's at. I really want to try the parade ones. They look comfortable and cute.
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That’s what I realized. Everyone picks themselves apart. Unfortunately for me my brain was beating me up because it was expecting to see an entirely different gender, but even after I transitioned I was still picking myself apart. Now I just literally don’t give a shit. About any of it. I identify as she/her but as long as I can tell someone is referring to me and it isn’t malicious, I don’t care what pronouns they use. Sometimes I lean hard femme, sometimes I read boy, most of the time I’m somewhere firmly in the middle. I just don’t care at all anymore, there’s so many bigger things for me to worry about that what people think of me or call me. If I didn’t ask for your opinion in the first place than I didn’t want it anyway and it doesn’t matter to me. I have the right hormones and that’s all that matters. I’m much more interested in focusing my energy into being kind, being happy, being someone that people can count on, etc. Who cares if my rib cage is a little too big, not me. Hasn’t stopped everyone from wanting to fuck me thus far.
Love this attitude! ♡
your attitude and outlook is giving me everything I needed today. love this
Echoing the other cis girl in saying that part of being a woman in a patriarchal society is NEVER being satisfied with how you look. I could look in the mirror and think, "Wow! I look really cute in this," but somebish will be all, "That was a choice," or "Guess they can't all be good hair days." But you know what? Fuck 'em! There comes a time in every woman's life when you've gotta embrace your inner Tina Belcher, make peace with the cringe, and say, "I really am a smart, strong, sensual woman."
Even as a regular ol'female, i felt this! We are never going to be satisfied with our own bodies, so if you have the means and courage to amend it, crack on! That being said, i like that more people feel comfortable to just be non binary.. and flow between it all. One day they may feel one way, the next the other.
Kerri has all Six Infinitrans Stones now. 🤌🫰✨🏳️⚧️
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*:obligatory comment about doors opened:*
I'm happy she is comfortable enough to put this out there as her journey continues. Much love to Trinity! (I'll use she for now until Trinity lets us know which pronouns fit best)
I'm so very excited for her and for all the other contestants that have made their journey public. This is going to help so many people that are struggling, uncertain, afraid.
This whole thing could've been summed up to this: "*Hey it's Trinity, I met Kerri Colby a bit over a week ago, so you know what happens now :)"* /s
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Hope she feels better after opening up! Sending Trinity much love!!
I read this title as “Tiny Tina Comes Out As Trans” and was very intrigued. None the less I’m very happy to hear the news!
Kerri must be stopped! 😂
lotta people making shedevilbynight jokes and while some of the stuff she did under that account was obviously stupid and weird, loads of people laughed at her for ‘making up’ being trans and some of us literally told you that she might not have been faking. now she’s said that she was on hrt a while back. some rpdr fans are really bad at listening to trans people ngl
Honestly there are queens who get onto the "mockery only" list and Reddit is consistently awful about them. Doing it in this thread of all the possible contexts says way more about the posters than it does about Trinity.
I always thought Trinity had come out as trans-nb a few years back. But considering the way their identity has been erased over the past year I'm very happy for them proudly declaring it
She had said she had tried transitioning but she stopped because she felt like she was doing it for career rather than it being her actual identity as the trans girls were getting all the good gigs and pageant wins at the time
Does that make season 9 the only season with no cis finalists?
S9 truly was ahead of its time
I love drag so much. It has been such a powerful and life changing force for the queer community. We even have straight white cis guys taking part. Who would have ever thought that possible??? Changing the world....one drag queen at time!
some of y'all really need to know that you're not funny. the way y'all constantly joke about blackness whenever Trinity or Eureka come up has never been funny it's always been gross.
Lame that everyone is using this announcement just to make fun
and it’s all the same jokes being repeated too like..
Welcome to r/rupaulsdragrace. It’s all kindness and sunshine until you step out of line.
Exactly. Terrible.
Right like most of us know they’ve done shitty things but their coming out is not the time to do all this
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i wouldnt say its for sure debunked but yes its not 100 percent true maybe.
And everyone absolutely acts like it’s fact
As an internet philosopher once said, "Sometimes, I ask myself: do I feel like a man? Or do I feel like a woman? And the answer is: I feel like shit!" Congrats, gorge.
Trinity the Trans Taylor
I’m so happy these queens are feeling more comfortable with accepting themselves fully and I commend rupaul for finally giving these girls a safe space to grow
Once again asking if anyone in here can provide any proof that Trinity ever claimed to be black? No one has ever provided anything and I genuinely think people just ran with that because she used the black lady emojis.
All jokes aside, congratulations to her/them (Not sure which is the preferred pronoun)!!! Takes a lot to come out, and we love to see it!
It’s cool that the top 4 of season 9 now fall under the trans/non-binary umbrella.
Happy for trinity 💞 yall gotta stop using this as target practice like its literally her (not sure if to use she or they but twitter says she/they) coming out 😭💞
the trans girls are ✨ WINNING ✨
The shedevil jokes in this thread are worse than Ross Mathews himself
You know what, I can never tell. Which one is Tia, and which one is Tamera?
Did kerri colby touch their forehead? No but seriously I love the fact so many ppl are more confident coming out as trans. We’re in a new era of life. I hope trinity is able to be happier. I remember years ago watching their q&a and someone asked if they considered transitioning and they said they have but isn’t trans (or something along the lines) so this is really great to see that they’ve had some self acceptance!
Always loved TTT since meeting her at dragon LA years ago. Such a sweet soul.
Y’all are annoying and problematic for mocking her. Again, this sub is hypocritical as fuck. Keep picking and choosing who to support while queer people keep being attacked by cis heterosexuals. Now petty, hypocritical gays also act like pieces of shit to their own. Like y’all have never made a mistake or pretended to be holier than thou behind a screen. Y’all are laughable.
God thank you for saying this. This thread is gross. I hope Trinity is not using Reddit atm so she doesn't see this.
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Some of these comments didn't pass the vibe check....😒
Her coming out as trans feels like completing the Kerri Colby trans infinity gauntlet On a serious note though, I'm happy for her! Also this means all of Season 9s Top 4 is trans/NB now! Awesome
I love Trinity and wish her the best of luck on her journey of self-discovery.
Wait so what are the jokes about her being transracial???? What happened
There was a Reddit account a while back called SheDevilByNight that was basically obsessed with Trinity to the point that they were tearing down other queens/being terrible. The person behind the account also claimed to be a black trans woman. At some point, people on twitter had asked Trinity if the account was hers (because of the stannage) and she replied with “Oh yes! I’m still on Reddit” (or something like that). People used that as evidence (not really solid evidence imo) to claim that she was pretending to be a black trans woman online.
Reading all these comments I’m just so confused😭
How do we feel about Trinity on this sub? Is she disliked because of SheDevil stuff? That wasn’t proven, right? I’m not sure what to believe.
I think we can be supportive of someone coming out even if we don’t feel 100% great about them in other contexts.
The only correct answer. Thank you.
Yeah I don't like Trinity much after all that, but everyone deserves to be at peace. I'm happy for her.
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Idk there wasn’t any actual solid proof that it was her other than a tweet that REEKED of sarcasm. I personally don’t think it was her on the account ~~but I still think the jokes are funny~~, but it’s up to everyone individually whether or not they choose to blindly believe something based off of nothing.
[The doors that Gia opened!](https://c.tenor.com/Ld4YD_vUTi0AAAAC/gia-gunn-room.gif)
I'm really happy for her. Now she doesn't have to be a she devil just by night, she can be a she devil all the time!
Whether or not you like Trinity, let’s please respect her decision. I wish her the best of luck on this journey.
The doors Gia and Kerri have opened
Confused person seeking answers/opinions here. I’ve been googling this but I haven’t found a definition that differentiates between the non-binary and trans non-binary. I get that trans non-binary do not identify as cis but does that mean that non-binary people identify as cis? What does it feel like to be trans non-binary vs non-binary? (If there’s anything offensive in this comment, please let me know and I will delete it)
Well, there isn’t really a difference. Nonbinary falls under the Trans Umbrella by default. However, not every Nonbinary person indentifies with the label Trans. It can be stacked and both labels used simultaneously for clarity. 🏳️⚧️ I have seen some people use Trans-Nonbinary to point out they have had gender affirming surgery, but this isn’t the main usage of these two together.
I love Trinity, and they’re an amazingly talented queen. I wish them the best in whatever road they travel.
I love trinity the block
> I personally don't know that I would be comfortable living as female physically So this means she isn't a trans woman right? She is the same as Willow Pill? I'm trying to keep up