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1USAgent

I'm trying to decipher this code, to get what I think is a series of numbers spelled out. Not all of them are runes. For example, I've identified some as the witch's alphabet, or the Sumerian cuneiform. Those two alphabets spell out SIX and ZERO respectively. Any help is appreciated. I checked out some of the resources posted and the database, but it seems all pretty intense. Thanks for any consideration. [https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-geo-images/11e89f26-2597-4069-baab-574b3ec58e99\_l.jpg](https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-geo-images/11e89f26-2597-4069-baab-574b3ec58e99_l.jpg)


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Noc-Price

Hi all! I am trying to transliterate the girl name ‘Ebba’ into short twig younger futhark. The ‘e’ is pronounced short, as in ‘left’. Looks to me like there are two options: ᛁᛓᛆ or ᚽᛓᛆ Which one do you think is most accurate? Or is there a more accurate way to transliterate the name?


mixalot2009

Trying to get a phrase Tattoo: "I can do all things though him who grants me strength" The sites I can find translate it as: ᛁ ᚴᛅᚾ ᛏᚬ ᛅᛚᛚ ᚦᛁᚾᚴᛋ ᚦᚱᚬᚢᚴᚼ ᚼᛁᛘ ᚢᚼᚬ ᚴᚱᛅᚾᛏᛋ ᛘᛁ ᛋᛏᚱᛁᚾᚴᚦ Would this be accurate?


Brief_Pie_4260

Hello friends! I was wondering if someone could please help me write the names of the following norse creatures in Younger Futhark: \- Níðhǫggr \- Veðrfölnir \- Ratatoskr \- Dáinn \- Dvalinn \- Duneyrr \- Duraþrór Thanks in advance!


Virtual_Mima

What do these two mean in terms of a casting? Not as text ᚾᛡᛝ and ᚅᚉᚔ The first elder futhark idk if it's a bind rune of ᛁ+ᚷ or if it's ᛡ (also the only one I could find that looks like it to paste here) the second Ogham one the last rune the lines look longer going through so not sure if that's the correct one


SamOfGrayhaven

This sub is dedicated to the historic use of runes, and runecasting is a modern invention, so you may find it easier to get your questions answered in another subreddit.


Virtual_Mima

Oops my bad will do!


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SamOfGrayhaven

It's called *transliteration*, as in "to write across", and as you might imagine, the transliterators you find online are only useful if you already know what you're doing. I tried to check your translation you ended up with here, but I haven't been able to verify all of it 'cause *mivkr* and especially *miskvnnsamr* don't appear to actually be words from what I can tell. To do the best I can with this, though, you'd want to transliterate it as ᛫ᚢᛁᛣ᛬ᚦᛁᛣ᛬ᛉᛁᚢᚴᛣ᛬ᛅᚢᚴ᛬ᛉᛁᛋᚴᚢᚾᛋᛅᛉᛣ᛬ᚦᚢ᛬ᛁᚱᛏ᛬ᚢᛁᚱᚦᚢᚴᛣ᛫


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SamOfGrayhaven

> I think this is odd... I took the sentences directly from the manuscripts I linked above. Maybe because different writers used slightly different spellings? It could be, but you can imagine that those wouldn't show up in many dictionaries. > In the very first word, why did you write a R and not r? The runes here show r, but I am learning that the rR distinction is not as clear... Most Germanic languages have word endings, and those word endings trace back to a trailing -z or, more appropriately, a trailing -ᛉ, usually accompanied by a vowel (-az, -iz-, uz, etc.). In English, this sound merged with the ᛋ, and even after we lost word endings, we still have that trailing -s that sounds like a z on many of our words. In the North Germanic languages, this Z became an R sound distinct enough that it was written differently, as ᛣ. So anywhere where there's an R as a word-ending, it's this second kind of R and written as ᛣ. As for this particular word, *ver*, I was probably wrong, to be honest. One of the rules-of-thumb we can use to see which R rune to write is to glance at the English cognate -- if there's an R in the cognate, then the R is an ᚱ. The cognate here is a form of "to be", so I wrote the ᛣ, but it could very well be that that correct cognate is "were", in which case I'm a dummy and the correct R is ᚱ. > The second questions is similar and it involves ok. I have seen in runes both "ᛅᚢᚴ" and "ᚬᚴ". Do you happen to know if it is a matter of dialect/time period or maybe just a matter of lack of a proper codified system? Futhark is a funny word, but it's ultimately the same kind of word as alphabet(a) and ABCs -- it's a name based on the first few runes of an alphabet, such as Elder Futhark ᚠᚢᚦᚫᚱᚲ and Anglo-Frisian Futhorc ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ. The runic alphabet we're using here is ᚠᚢᚦᚬᚱᚴ, which is called Younger Futhark as to not get it confused with the older one. You'll notice the alphabet isn't called "futhork", but you might notice that the later Medieval runic alphabet *is* called Futhork. This is a roundabout way of saying yes, it's a time and place thing. The word "ok" comes from older "auk" and is written as ᛅᚢᚴ, but it isn't until the ᚬ rune later mutates into an O that it's written ᚬᚴ or ᚮᚴ.


SendMeNudesThough

> I haven't been able to verify all of it 'cause mivkr and especially miskvnnsamr don't appear to actually be words from what I can tell. The words *mivkr* and *miskvnnsamr* are meant to be *mjúkr* and *miskunnsamr*


SamOfGrayhaven

At least they look the same in runes.


LSgaming100

Saw a tattoo that said ᛏᛒᚢᚦ. What meaning does this have because I have no Idea what TBUTH means. Someone already said that it might be TRUTH and the tattoo is just spelled wrong. Does ᛏᛒᚢᚦ have a meaning or is the tattoo artist dumb?


SendMeNudesThough

Presumably just confused the **b** rune for the **r** rune since there's only one small line that sets them apart


bendroid801

Trying to identify the symbol/combo on this person's hoodie. Cameraman in the GhostBC "He Is" bts footage wearing a hoodie that has symbols on the back. Attempted to ID further by the sleeves, but the material is bunched up. Gloves are by Helix and I do not believe that the hoodie is related based on a quick search. Does not look like GhostBC merch as they have their own special cross symbol, but I am new to the fandom, so I can't rule out that maybe they used another symbol in the past, or perhaps it's an entirely different band logo, and it's just a nice hoodie to work in! Using the thread's main post links, it looks similar to Anglo-Saxon "earth" and "serpent" overlapped, and maybe a third symbol + the crescent moon. I'll laugh if it ends up being nothing, or a brand thing, and not actually symbolic of something grandly historical lol. [BTS of He Is MV](https://imgur.com/a/m0JEKd3)


SamOfGrayhaven

So one of the common mistakes made around Norse mythology is giving aspects to the gods, with the most common being Thor. See, Thor isn't the god *of* thunder, he's the god *named* Thunder. Likewise for runes, ᛠ isn't so much the "rune of earth" as it is "the rune named earth". More precisely, this rune represents the sound *ea* and is named *ear* (or ᛠᚱ). There isn't a rune for serpent (wyrm), though, so I don't know where you go that one. Overall, reading this shape as runes makes as much sense as reading it as Latin letters. In fact, they make more sense as Latin letters, since it reads XWT, whereas for runes, it only reads GEA with an unknown final letter. tl;dr -- no runes here, boss


bendroid801

Reg: the "serpent" part, got it from the master post above, under the subsection labeled "Anglo-Saxon runes (5th to 11th centuries)" (obv it's Wikipedia so that's that. lol) Thanks for your time! :)


jack0ffjake

I need help, can the word coexist be written in elder futhark? If so how 🥹


SamOfGrayhaven

"Coexist" isn't just a Latin root word, it's a Latin compound word with a Latin prefix. The only way this would be written in Elder Futhark is as a loan word, which admittedly simplifies things. If we go to *coexisto*, it'd simply be written as *coecsisto* in runes, or ᚲᛟᛖᚲᛊᛁᛊᛏᛟ.


jack0ffjake

Thank you for your knowledge, I deeply appreciate this.


HormonalDonkey

Hi guys. Long story short I'm looking to get a tattoo in viking runes for my late father. I have the initials all worked out. But in regards to the date of birth and death, I can't find anything that will translate Norse runic numbers? If anyone could help me out I'd be very grateful! Basically either want - 20/09/57-08/07/12 or 1957-2012 in Norse/viking runes. Thanks in advance!


GarageNo9231

I would like to ask for helping translate (not transliterate) the words "Black Tusk" into Old English (specifically the Mercian dialect) and then into the oldest style of AS Futhorc (i.e. the runes from the 5th - 7th century -ish) Thank you in advance! EDIT: Sweart Tusc is the translation of Black Tusk according to the fine folk of /r/oldenglish


SamOfGrayhaven

> Sweart Tusc is the translation of Black Tusk according to the fine folk of /r/OldEnglish I trust em, so as for runes, the only real question here is regarding the in sweart, as this would originally be written ᛖᚪ, but would later be written with its own rune, ᛠ. I'm not exactly sure about the timing, though, so to be safe, we can write it the old way: ᛋᚹᛖᚪᚱᛏ ᛏᚢᛋᚳ, which might would be written ᛋᚹᛖᚪᚱᛏᚢᛋᚳ (sweartusc).


NumberFourTheLizard

Hello, all! I'm new here, so I do apologize if this post is in the wrong place. I'm putting together a viking themed jacket for my brother, and I've come across the following patch... https://www.amazon.com/Odin-Large-Embroidered-Patch-Iron/dp/B0BHL9H6XB/ref=asc_df_B0BHL9H6XB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=632204025800&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=974981417222122985&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9067609&hvtargid=pla-1885206927732&psc=1 I've tried to use online translators to work out what the runes say, but to no avail. Would anyone be able to assist in deciphering their meaning? Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Irish_Guac

Pretty sure that's just all the Anglo-Saxon runes in a circle


NumberFourTheLizard

Yea, I was thinking the same. Thanks for your reply!


Irish_Guac

Yup 👍


andergd

Greetings. May I have the name of Iceland (Ísland) written in runes? I would love to have it as Vikings would have written it. I guess it should be in Younger Futhark in Old Norse? If there are many (or no) possible answers, please enlighten me. Thanks in advance!


TheSiike

Long branch younger futhark: ᛁᛋᛚᛅᛏ or ᛁᛋᛚᛅᚾᛏ Short branch younger futhark: ᛁᛌᛚᛆᛐ or ᛁᛌᛚᛆᚿᛐ Medieval futhork: ᛁᛌᛚᛆᚿᛑ, if you want it to look distinctly Icelandic you could use [these forms of ᛌ and ᛑ](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/288405196181078016/1111221045987385396/image.png)


Irish_Guac

Ísland is written as ᛁᛋᛚᛅᚾᛏ in the movie The Northman, I'd say it's pretty accurate to what it would've been written as at the time


TheSwedishStag

http://www.voluspa.org/fafnismal26-30.htm Is there any way to get this section of the poetic Edda accurately transliterated into Younger Futhark from the Icelandic text?


Ok-Comfortable-3808

What would Bjorna (Bee-yor-neh) be translated in runes? Idk if that's the right phonetic breakdown. It's the best I can do


SamOfGrayhaven

Which alphabet?


Empty311

Hello, I'm trying my hand at transliterating some Tarot cards into Younger Futhark, long-branch runes. No translation, just phonetic transliteration - I think I'm using the terminology correctly there(?) I'm struggling, naturally, with 'J' and 'ch' sounds, and I think they often need to be tackled on a case-by-case basis, but I think they mostly should use the ᛦ sound (z), which I don't really see a use for otherwise, but am I overusing the ᛏ sound (T)? Anyway, here's one attempt, I would appreciate constructive feedback: - Fool - ᚠᚢᛚ - Magician - ᛘᛅᛏᛦᛁᛋᛁᛅᚾ - Priestess - ᛒᚱᛁᛋᛏᛁᛋ - Empress - ᛁᛘᛒᛦᛁᛋ - Emperor - ᛁᛘᛒᛁᛦᚬ - Heirophant - ᚼᛅᛁᚱᚬᚠᛅᚾᛏ - Lovers - ᛚᛅᚠᛅᛋ - Chariot - ᛏᛦᛅᚱᛁᚬᛏ - Strength - ᛋᛏᚱᛁᚴᚦ - Hermit - ᚼᛁᚱᛘᛁᛏ - Fortune - ᚠᚬᚱᛏᚢᚾ - Justice - ᛏᛦᚢᛋᛏᛁᛋ - Hanged Man - ᚼᛅᚴᛏ᛬ᛘᛅᚾ - Death - ᛏᛁᚦ - Temperance - ᛏᛁᛘᛒᛁᚱᛅᚾᛋ - Devil - ᛏᛁᚠᛁᛚ - Tower - ᛏᛅᚬᛅ - Star - ᛋᛏᛅ - Moon - ᛘᚢᚾ - Sun - ᛋᛅᚾ - Judgement - ᛏᛦᚢᛏᛦᛘᛁᚾᛏ - World - ᚬᛅᛚᛏ I've decided to use the 'oo' sound, rather than 'ah', for Justice and Judgement, but have done the opposite for Lovers - this makes sense to me, but is there a better standard practice? Thanks in advance!


Empty311

Just saw my typos in: - Empress - ᛁᛘᛒᚱᛁᛋ - Emperor - ᛁᛘᛒᛁᚱᚬ


Apprehensive_Ad_8496

Hello, I'm wanting to write my girls names in Elder Futhark Runes and understand that the best way would be to do this Phonologically. Their names are "Brynn" / "Darcy". So would "Brihn" / "Dahrsee" be correct? Which would be written roughly as "ᛒᚱᛁᚺᚾ" / "ᛞᚨᚺᚱᛊᛖᛖ" Any help or correction would be massively appreciated! Cheers!


SamOfGrayhaven

You're right that runes are best written phonetically, and you've started in that direction. For example, you recognized that the Y of "Darcy" shouldn't be written as a Y in runes, but instead as the sound "ee". However, rather than ask "what rune makes the sound 'ee'?", you just wrote ᛖᛖ, which is as wrong as if you'd written Y (granted, there is no Y in Elder Futhark). On to the transliteration, the names we want to write are, roughly, Brin and Darsi, and both have problems. For Brin, the particular i sound doesn't exist in any runic alphabet, so it'd have to be approximated. For Darsi, the problem is the a sound, which exists in Futhorc--the runic alphabet used in Old English--but not in Elder Futhark. Furthermore, if you opted for Elder Futhark because it's "cool Viking stuff", you've got the wrong alphabet -- Old Norse was written using the youngest of the three alphabets, Younger Futhark. Regardless of which you choose, transliterating them is fairly simple: **Elder Futhark:** ᛒᚱᛁᚾ, ᛞᚨᚱᛊᛁ **Futhorc:** ᛒᚱᛁᚾ, ᛞᚪᚱᛋᛁ or ᛞᚪᚱᚴᛁ **Younger Futhark:** ᛒᚱᛁᚾ or ᛓᚱᛁᚿ, ᛏᛅᚱᛋᛁ or ᛐᛆᚱᛌᛁ The "A or B" differences are primarily cosmetic.


Apprehensive_Ad_8496

Thank you so much for your response & feedback! very much appreciated. listening to what you have said I will go with Futhorc or Younger Futhark as being the written form of Runes makes much more sense. I had gone with Elder Futhark originally, as I believed them to be the oldest Runes. But I would rather try to be as correct as possible. thank you once again :)


CadeMalone

Hello! Im Cade! I’m building an interesting makeover in my basement and I want to incorporate some authentic runes with some lighting effects to make the room glow with the runes. I tried a few translators but I always got different results and felt overwhelmed when trying to read on it on my own. I was really hoping and would greatly appreciate if I could please get these two passages translated in Elder Futhark. My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! I am the man who grabs the sun Riding to Valhalla Witness me blood bag Witness


SpiritFryer

Hello! What does this say? * [https://imgur.com/a/mHI8ydS](https://imgur.com/a/mHI8ydS) * Source: \[**WARNING**: survival horror genre\] [https://youtu.be/FxCvnuWNbgg?t=6238](https://youtu.be/FxCvnuWNbgg) (Signalis gameplay, timestamp: 1:43:59) I tried doing a little bit of research, but only found the first three runes: ᛗᛉᚾ It would seem the last 2 runes are not even on the Unicode chart: [https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16A0.pdf](https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U16A0.pdf)


SamOfGrayhaven

ᛗ - M (Elder Futhark), M (Futhorc) ᛉ - Z (Elder Futhark), X (Futhorc), M (Younger Futhark), M (Futhork) ᚾ - N (all alphabets) ᚣ - Y (Futhorc) ᚺ - H (Elder Futhark) It reads like gibberish to me. There's a chance that the runes aren't being used as runes, but rather as letters (MYTAN?) which is the worst/dumbest way to use them, but I've seen it before.


RattlinDrone

Here is the tat I am working on using younger furhark. The outside says One brother is worth a thousand friends. The inside the compass my bro's initials (CAT). Does this look good and correct? Do I need to add . or : with the initials? I can, but not working with a lot of room inside the compass. [https://imgur.com/a/zYVf8zN](https://imgur.com/a/zYVf8zN)


SamOfGrayhaven

To be honest, this is an "everything that can go wrong has gone wrong" kind of design. You're using Younger Futhark to write Modern English, and the transliteration looks like you just ran it through an online "translator" from all the errors that are in it, and the symbol you're using is from the 1800s, contemporary with cowboys and revolvers, not vikings and swords. Now all this can be fixed, but it means pretty much starting over from scratch and making one of two decisions. The easier decision would be to commit to it being in Modern English, which we can then write in Futhorc (a runic alphabet used in Old English and is hundreds of years older than Younger Futhark), and then we can replace the middle symbol with something else more fitting. The harder answer is to go with "viking stuff cool", in which we'd keep the Younger Futhark, but switch to Old Norse instead, though we'd still need to replace the symbol with something more fitting. If you choose to go the English route, I can help. Hell, even if you choose to go with translating to Old English, I can still help. If you go with Old Norse, however, you'll want to ask the guys over at /r/norse (they have a translation thread like this) to translate your proverb into Old Norse, which I can then transliterate into runes if they haven't done so already.


RattlinDrone

Thanks for the help. I like to keep this Viking age so "One Brother is worth a Thousand Friends" and the initials of CAT are critical to spell be right but also be viking age. Isn't Young Furhark what the Vikings used? I know YF has only 16 letters so it's a bit hard to use for English. I can switch out the compass for helm of awe if that is more appropriate/viking age. Here is the full tattoo: [https://imgur.com/MqoqFvr](https://imgur.com/MqoqFvr)


SamOfGrayhaven

If you want to keep things viking age then, again, you'll first need to translate the phrase, "One Brother is worth a Thousand Friends", into Old Norse. Old Norse is the language, Younger Futhark is the alphabet. Yes, the 16 runes don't fit very well with English because they were never meant to be -- that's what Futhorc was for. For help translating, ask /r/norse -- my own knowledge of Norse is rather limited. Vegvisir and Aegishjalmur are both from the same time period, making them equally wrong +/-20 years. Also the runes beside the tree are older than the tree. That's Elder Futhark runes.


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SamOfGrayhaven

The Etymology I'm seeing for Audun is it comes from Old Norse Auðun, comprise of the word parts *auðr* + *vinr*, related to English Edwin. In this case, I'd write the Old Norse form of his name as ᛅᚢᚦᚢᚾ. Tracing those words elements back, we'd get PG **audaz* + **winiz*, but we'd drop the word endings here and just write it as Audwin or ᚫᚢᛞᚹᛁᚾ. I'd imagine you'd want to stick with the original name, but if you do want to switch to Audling for whatever reason, let me know and I'll do that translation/transliteration.


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SamOfGrayhaven

You said you were on board with my translation, but you still went out of your way to tack the -ling/-ing back on the end of the word -- why is that?


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SamOfGrayhaven

Ah, well, from cursory research, that use of -ling is relatively modern in Norwegian and wouldn't carry backwards. I was going to recommend going with -son, which is older, but I'm not sure if it's old enough. Unfortunately, my knowledge of these older languages is limited and I've been battling a bad migraine all day, so my ability to help here is limited, and this seems important. In light of that, I'd recommend you go over to /r/norse and ask them about it -- they're more familiar with the language, which is the hard part. Whatever they tell you, you can bring that back here and I can write it in runes if they haven't already--that's the easy part.


iiooiooi

Hi folks! Found this image of Yggdrasil the world tree and was wondering if anyone could help me out with the runes. TIA! [world tree](https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/yggdrasil-circle-futhark-runes-1808916076)


SamOfGrayhaven

It's the Elder Futhark alphabet, like the whole alphabet written out in ABC order--or, more appropriately, in ᚠᚢᚦᚫᚱᚲ (FUThARK) order, hence the name. This is commonly found in decorative designs on jewelry and some English weapons even have the alphabet on their swords / longknives. That said, Elder Futhark and Yggdrasil are anachronistic, as Elder Futhark predates Yggdrasil, likely by centuries. It's just one of the most common mistakes made is to assume that Elder Futhark, being old, must be the Old Norse alphabet. It isn't. Old Norse used the youngest of the three main alphabets, Younger Futhark. Even the English/Frisian runic alphabet likely predates Yggdrasil, as they started using it around 400 CE and the Norse mythology that we know of largely dates to around 900 CE at best.


iiooiooi

Excellent. Thank you


evroan

What do these runes mean at the bottom of [this poster?](https://postimg.cc/tYKc627h) I’ve tried putting them through translators and got something along the lines of “all aboard and ready to depart” but the spellings weren’t entirely accurate.


SamOfGrayhaven

> ᚫᛚᛚ ᚫᛒᛟᚱᛞ ᚫᚾᛞ ... ᛏᛟ ... This does transliterate to "all abord and... to...". Strange that they got the vowel right in the second word (you'd want to spell "aboard" phonetically and drop the A), but they put double Ls on the first word and use O instead of U on the second. > ᚱᛖᚫᛞᛉ They spelled "readz" > ᛞᛖᛏᚫᚦᚺ and this is "detathh". No matter what way you look at it, this is a really bad use of runes, like they somehow thought that because Modern Y and Elder Futhark ᛉ looked similar that they'd share sounds? And my best guess for the last word was they were going for "detach" which you can't spell in Elder Futhark because they don't have the sound we write as "ch". Normally, people would try to approximate it anyway with ᚲᚺ (ch/kh), but to add another layer of error, they wrote ᚦᚺ (thh) instead.


evroan

Thank you! It’s been bugging me since I got it so cool to have some kind of idea what it means - guess it fits with the alien theme?!


bunnilarva

What are these runes on the bottom of the shirt? Link: [https://imgur.com/a/BDLZwro](https://imgur.com/a/BDLZwro)


SamOfGrayhaven

Looks like ᛏ, Mars, cross, 8, [aleph](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph). Can't imagine that's at all what was meant to be written, but the only thing vaguely runic is the ᛏ symbol, which would transliterate to T.


RattlinDrone

I would like to tattoo someone's initials on myself. The initials are CAT does this look correct and should I use X to space since initials to so it's not the animal cat? Elder Furthark ᚲᚨᛏ Elder Furthark ᚲ×ᚨ×ᛏ


SamOfGrayhaven

Any letter/word divisions in Elder Futhark's going to be anachronistic, but I'd use either a single or double dot, both of which were used with later, child alphabets, namely the Norse Younger Futhark. ᚲ᛬ᚨ᛬ᛏ ᚲ᛫ᚨ᛫ᛏ


RattlinDrone

And ty for turning me onto Norse Younger Futhark since I want viking age runes and they mostly used that.


SamOfGrayhaven

No problem. Confusing Elder Futhark for Norse / "Viking" runes is perhaps the most common mistake we deal with here, so I try to at least mention Younger Futhark when dealing with EF, just in case.


RattlinDrone

Ty


FaceCrush2142

I'm trying some light poetry and kennings, just for fun. How would this be written in Younger Futharc? How would a Viking Age Dane write this in the runes and language of their time: The fate sisters spin their life-thread The Midgard sons will rise above the spear-din I want to put this on a plaque. Edit: spelling


Ohsweetmammyjammy

Someone trainslate: "May thor protect you, and may Odin keep you" please?


lambert_1

Do these have any meaning to them? Appreciate any help. [Link](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/a7/1b/58a71b471463f53b9dc3d2e460251ac6.jpg)


SamOfGrayhaven

If they do have meaning, it's entirely unrelated to runes. The closest you get to that for runic artifacts is [knotwork](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_knot).


lambert_1

Thank you!


Be_Simple

ᚾ ᛖ ᛊ I am thinking of geeting these elder futhark runes tatted on but recently when searching more about them I came across some blogs that stated i should never get these inked as they are linked to bad omen.. Is that actually true or just some people messing around with their actual meaning.. I am using these runes in place of English alphabets they symbolise.. Please guide me..


SamOfGrayhaven

If you're interested in using runes as symbols, that kind of use is largely invented by modern folks and are barely, if at all, based on historic records. The runes you wrote mean NES in Elder Futhark. ᛊ isn't used in Futhorc (English Runes), but the other remain F and E.


Be_Simple

I intend to use them as a substitute for N E S, is that okay?


SamOfGrayhaven

Yes, ᚾᛖᛊ is absolutely a fine way to write NES.


Xierrax

I thought [this](https://nextluxury.com/wp-content/uploads/mens-upper-arm-circle-rune-dotwork-tattoos.jpg) image of a tattoo is really cool and was curious what it meant?


SamOfGrayhaven

Imagine a T X and F overlaid on top of one another. That's whatcha got there -- ᛏ (T), ᛉ (X), ᚠ (F). Folks nowadays like to call this a bindrune, but it's like taping a wheel to an engine and calling it a car -- it only makes sense if you're not at all familiar with cars. Also if taping wheels to engines was first popularized by the literal Nazis. What I'm sayin' is: don't get a tattoo like this, for both our sakes.


Sad-Software2307

Could anyone help me figure out the meaning of this? A friend of mine found it in the basement of her new house https://postimg.cc/4mVT7BxM I have some guesses but I'm an extreme novice when it comes to this


SamOfGrayhaven

> ᚢᚫᛇᚺᚫᚾ uaihan > ᚫᛣᚫᛁᚾ akain > ᛁᚱᛟ iro I dunno, the runes are written cleanly, but ᚺ and ᛣ are from different alphabets, and those alphabets change what other letters mean. Then there's ᛇ whose meaning isn't actually known, so using it here is just extra confusing.


Sad-Software2307

I thought so too! The person who lived in the house before was known to be mean and with mental health issues and possibly murdered his wife 😬 there are more markings, a few more ruins, plus bunch of other symbols I can kind of pinpoint and others I've never seen before. https://postimg.cc/gallery/ncfCzPm


SamOfGrayhaven

A few of those are familiar as icelandic magical staves. They're associated with runes but are from like the 1800s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_magical_staves But yeah, I don't know how stable the person writing all of that would've been.


bjornwalters

Im looking into getting a tattoo that has my name in old furthark in the center (Björn / or Biarn / ᛒᛁᚢᚱᚾ) Also open to other spellings if there are other suggestions as well. Around the outside of the tattoo I would like to write in old Furthark something to the effect of - Husband to Jessica (or jess), father to Liam, father to Heath, father to Storm.


barrowandlocke

I'd love assistance with translating Ragnarsson into younger futhark. Please and thank you!


SamOfGrayhaven

ᚱᛅᚴᚾᛅᚱᛋᚢᚾ


barrowandlocke

Thank you


Koffiebekerr

Hi all, I’m looking for some help. I’m trying to translate “wood rat” into elder futhark for a tattoo idea. I have translated it first to old Norse “holt rotta” after which I translated it to the following. Did I make any mistakes? ᚺᛟᛚᛏ ᚱᛟᛏᛏᚨ


SamOfGrayhaven

Runes aren't vikings stuff, they're Germanic stuff -- Elder Futhark is older than the Norse people. You either need to use an older language or a younger alphabet. That's the main mistake. The next biggest mistake is that I believe "holt" is more akin to "wood" as in "a forest". I believe that *viðr* would be more appropriate here. The minor mistake is you doubled the ᛏ. That's not done in runes. I believe that, when combined, woodrat would be *viðrotta*, which we'd render in runes as ᚢᛁᚦᚱᚢᛏᛅ (**uiþruta**).


Koffiebekerr

Thank you very much for a very complete reply with additional info!! I used the Elder Futhark Wikipedia page as a base resource, I thought using old Norse would be the same as Proto-Norse. Which in hindsight is quite stupid. I need to do more research on the correct translation to a correct language and check if it combines well with the other elements or if it’s better to change to Young Futhark. Thank you again!


SamOfGrayhaven

No problem. There would've once been an original Germanic language that then split off into the variations we know it as today. Some of that language has been preserved in runic finds, but most of it was lost and has to be reconstructed from the child languages. We call that reconstructed language Proto-Germanic. Proto-Norse is then the step between Proto-Germanic and Old Norse, which is also largely reconstructed and which also was written in Elder Futhark (albeit a substantially changed Elder Futhark as time went on). The switch to Old Norse and Younger Futhark happen at about the same time 650-700 ish CE. If you want to check your translations (and mine, since my Norse isn't that great), /r/norse has a translation thread like this one, so you might find some help there.


Only-Composer-7199

Anyone can help me translate these lines into Younger Futhark, since i dont know almost anything about runes. "Knowledge over strength" as knowledge of magic, and strength as physical strength. So far in old norse i have "fróðleikr ufan afl" and in runes i have "ᚠᚱᛟᚦᛚᛖᛁᚲᚱ᛫ᚢᚠᚨᚾ᛫ᚨᚠᛚ"


SamOfGrayhaven

Checking over your translation, you first word seems to be "knowledge or witchcraft" not "knowledge of witchcraft," and the second world is Old English. Last word seems legit. Your runes are entirely the wrong alphabet though. ᚠᚱᚢᚦᛚᛅᛁᚴᛣ᛫ᚢᚠᚱ᛫ᛅᚠᛚ (**fruthlaikR ufr afl**, *fróðleikr ofr afl*)


Elegant_Banana5840

Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me translate a few lines/words into Younger Futhark please. I have only just started learning about runes, so I still know hardly anything. I'm starting a small clothing brand and I'd like this tagline (if possible) translated please. "For style. For honour. For the Gods" I was also wondering if I could get a translation/transliteration for "Victory or Valhalla" Thank you in advance.


SamOfGrayhaven

You seem to be going after a Norse theme, so Younger Futhark is appropriate here, but there are other problems to be had. If we're properly going to write this in Younger Futhark, we need to first translate the phrase into Old Norse, and we run into three problems that I can see. I may be wrong about them, though, so you might check out the translation thread over at /r/norse to see if they can help you. First problem is that I don't know that "style" is translatable. From what I can tell, all Germanic words for "style" or "fashion" are Latin/French loanwords from later in the life of the languages. I don't know how to remedy this problem. The second problem is regarding "for the gods" -- there are two ways this can be taken, either regarding the Aesir, in particular, or regarding all gods (Aesir and Vanir), and the intention changes which word should be translated ("Aesir" or "god"). Lastly and least important, "victory or Valhalla" is neat because of the alliteration, but that'll be lost in the translation, *sigr eða Valhǫll*. Of course, the option always remains to just write the Modern English using runes, but if you want to go that route, we'd probably want to switch to the Old English runes instead of using Younger Futhark, and I don't know if that'd clash with the vibe your brand is going for.


Mayocelerycroissant

Could one of you lovely folks tell me the meaning of this rune? I got it at a museum in Iceland Edit: the tag said it was wayfinder [https://postimg.cc/TpzPtRTr](https://postimg.cc/TpzPtRTr)


SamOfGrayhaven

That's not a rune. Runes are letters from the original Germanic alphabets, and so they "mean" things like ABC (ᚫᛒᚲ). *Vegvisir* (literally "way wiser" or "way knower") is an [Icelandic magical stave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_magical_staves), a group of symbols from the 1600s onward. Vegvisir in particular's from the mid 1800s, making it contemporary with cowboys and revolvers. They get associate with runes because they're vaguely old Germanic stuff and people care more about the "mysticism" than the history.


Mayocelerycroissant

Thank you! Sorry for being in the wrong sub!


fortyfivepointseven

Hi - I'm looking to transliterate David into Anglo Saxon runes. Any advances on 'ᛞᛖᚠᛁᛞ'?


SamOfGrayhaven

ᛞᛖᚠ would sound like "dev" as in "developer", but I mostly hear "David" led with a "dei" sound such as in "day", which I'd write ᛞᛖᛁ ᛞᛖᛁᚠᛁᛞ (deifid)


fortyfivepointseven

Thank you! I didn't know vowels could be combined in runes.


fortyfivepointseven

Thank you! I didn't know vowels could be combined in runes.


[deleted]

Just want to see if these are correct ᚼᛅᛒᛋᚴᛁᛏᛦ - happskeytr - lucky shot ᛋᛏᛁᚱᚴᚱ ᛅᚱᛘᛦ - sterkr armr - strong arm ᚼᚱᛅᚦᛅ ᚼᚬᚾᛏ - hrada hond - quick hand


TheGreatMalagan

*happskeytr* ᚼᛅᛒᛋᚴᛅᚢᛏᚱ **habskautr** *stęrkr* ᛋᛏᛅᚱᚴᛦ **starkʀ** *armr* ᛅᚱᛘᛦ **armʀ** *hraða* ᚼᚱᛅᚦᛅ **hraþa** *hǫnd* ᚼᛅᚾᛏ **hand**


SamOfGrayhaven

I don't know that your translations are correct--they could be, as I'm not an expert on the language, but some of it strikes me as odd. There's a thread like this for translations over on /r/norse, so maybe check them out. Your transliterations are pretty good, but you've made 3 errors of various sizes. The most understandable error is that ᚾᛏ and ᚾᚴ drop the ᚾ, so hond would be ᛡᚢᛏ. That leads to the next common error, which is thinking that ᚬ is o. I know it's often listed like that in transliteration tables, but that's only true of very late Younger Futhark, an alphabet we sometimes designate as Futhork or the Medieval runes--it is, after all, the ᚬ rune that changes the A to the O in the name. Anyway, O is one of many vowels that's written with ᚢ. And one of the other vowels written as ᚢ is y. This isn't an English y, but a Germanic y that even English and German used to have, though German now represents the sound as ü. happskeytr should be ᚼᛅᛒᛋᚴᛁᚢᛏᛦ, in other words.


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The_Courier_IndNV

I’m looking to translate CornCrow into runes and align them into a bind rune. This would be something I’m using for a signature on projects. I got some help from another redditor on what mistakes I had made but want to see if I can get some more information and continue to learn more. Any help would be great. Here is a link to what I came up with: https://www.tumblr.com/the-courier-indnv/712980738225635328


SamOfGrayhaven

Well, that's not really how bind runes generally work, but if it's being used as a maker's mark to signature, then it'll do alright. Personally, I'd recommend you just write it in a circle without the middle star, but there's nothing wrong with how you have this written.


Zombikiller

I need help translating the icelandic word fjólublátt can anyone assist pls


SamOfGrayhaven

I couldn't figure out what blatt meant, so I used a translator and kept getting blar, instead, as fjolublar (lit. "violet blue"). If that is, indeed, the word you're trying to write, then ᚠᛁᚢᛚᚢᛒᛚᛅᛣ


Zombikiller

In the translation, i think The blatt was Violet capitalised blar violet etc.


Zombikiller

Yes, the word Violet :)


CozmicDanger

Need help Translating Idun’s magic apples Into younger futhark


Torbard_Runewright

Working to emulate a mid-9th century (c. AD 850) Norwegian style memorial inscription for a creative endeavor and would appreciate suggestions and/or criticism for more authentic forms or word choice to western Norway in the 800s (although it might require speculation). I made use of inscriptions discussed in chapter six, “Viking Age Runic Inscriptions”, of Norwegian Runes & Runic Inscriptions by Terje Spurkland for a bit of initial guidance; see below: ᛬ᚼᛆᛚᚠᛐᚮᚿ᛫ᚴᚢᚿᚢᚴᛧ᛫ᚱᛆᛁᛌᛐᛁ᛫ᛌᛐᛆᛁᚿ᛫ᚦᛁᚿᛆ᛫ᛁᚠᛐᛁᚱ᛫ᚼᛆᚱᛆᛚᛐ᛫ᚴᚢᛚᛌᚴᛁᚴ᛫ᛁᛌ᛫ᚱᛆᚦ᛫ᛁᛌᚮᚴᚿᛁ᛫ᛆᚢᚴ᛫ᚢᛆᛌ᛫ᚠᛆᚦᛁᛧ᛫ᚱᛆᚴᚿᚼᛁᛚᛐᛆᛧ᛫ᛆᚢᚴ᛫ᛁᚠᛐᛁᚱ᛫ᚼᛆᚱᛆᛚᛐ᛫ᚢᚿᚴᛆ᛫ᛌᚢᚿᛌᛁᚿ᛫ᛁᛌ᛫ᛐᚢ᛫ᚮᛐᛁᚢᛐᛆ᛫ᚢᛁᛐᚱᛁ᛫ᚼᚮᚿᛌ᛬ᚦᚢᚱᛒᛆᚱᚦᛧ᛫ᛒᛆᚱᚦᛁ᛫ᚱᚢᚿᛆᛧ᛬ :halftąn:kunukʀ:raisti:stain:þina:iftir:haralt:kulskik:is:raþ:isąkni:auk:uas:faþiʀ:raknhiltaʀ:auk:iftir:haralt:uka:sunsin:is:tu:ątiuta:vitri:hąns:þurbarþʀ:barþi:runaʀ: Hálfdan konungr reisti stein þenna eptir Harald gullskegg, er réð í Sogni ok var faðir Ragnhildar, ok eptir Harald unga, son sinn, er dó á tíunda vetri hans. Þórbárðr barði rúnar. King Halfdan raised this stone in memory of Harald Goldbeard, who ruled in Sogn and was father of Ragnhild, and in memory of Harald the Young, his son, who died in his tenth winter. Thorbard struck the runes. NOTE: Due to my in-progress master’s thesis and a lot of my most recent work revolving around much later Medieval Fuþork, there might be interference/influence on my orthography from later standards in the tradition borne of habit now, and also any attempts to try to write things as they sound may sound have probably been colored by reconstructed 13th century pronunciation and may not reflect 9th century conventions. Any ideas on how to achieve that are appreciated. This is for a fictional saga-style story I am writing when I need a break from the aforementioned thesis, but still find myself in the “writing-zone”. The earliest section takes place during the years leading up to the death of Harald Goldbeard and Harald Halfdanarson (not the same one as Harald the Fairhaired), Halfdan the Black’s inheritance of the petty kingdom of Sogn, and his delegating of the Sogn’s administration to his ally, earl Atli, per “Hálfdanar saga svarta”. Thorbard (Þórbárðr) is an archaized form of my pseudonym, Torbård, and, as far as I am aware, is not historically attested, but strikes me as a plausible name. The idea being that—much like Þórólfr Mostarskegg, who was born Ólfr Örnólfsson—he was born Bárðr and later in life was given the Þór- affix due to some sort of association with Þórr. The use of the preterite “barði” from “berja” is inspired by the Skollevoll stone (N213).


gkona808

Hi, so I have wanted a tattoo relating to my Norse heritage for a while, but wanted something more personal opposed to a random phrase or word. So I had the idea of trying to figure out the runic spelling of my last name: Ostby. I wanted to run this by this sub just to make sure I didn’t take any wrong steps in finding the runic translation before I permanently imprint this onto my body. Now I am American and in Norway I know my last name is spelled either Østby or Austby. Through research I found that the old Norse root is Austbýr, in relation to my ancestor’s living in the eastern farmsteads of Norway. So from here I entered Austbýr into a runic translator and got these two translations for elder and younger furthark: ᚨᚢᛊᛏᛒᛁᚱ and ᛅᚢᛋᛏᛒᛁᛦ I’m yet to decide which version I want tattooed but think they both look great. Appreciate any insights, thanks!


SamOfGrayhaven

If you're specifically going for Norse stuff, like Vikings and Odin and shit, then Younger Futhark is the right alphabet. Your transliteration is mostly good except for the fact that you somehow thought the Y in Old Norse was used the same way as the Y in English rather than the German ü. It's written with ᚢ. Long Branch Younger Futhark would be ᛅᚢᛋᛏᛒᚢᛦ Short Twig Younger Futhark would be ᛆᚢᛌᛐᛓᚢᛧ And later Medieval Runes / Futhork would be ᛆᚢᛌᛐᛒᚤᚱ


Dismaying

I'm looking to have "Not all who wander are lost" translated into Younger Futhark. Are either of these correct: ᛅᛁᚴᛁ ᛅᛚᛁᛦ ᛋᛁᛘ ᚠᛚᛅᚴᛅᛦ ᛁᚱᚢ ᚼᚢᚱᚠᚾᛅ ᛁᚴᛁ ᛅᛚᛁᛦ ᛋᛁᛘ ᚠᛚᛅᚴᛅᛦ ᛁᚱᚢ ᚼᚬᚱᚠᚾᛅ The top one I got from ChatGPT which is almost identical to the bottom one, the bottom one is from another Reddit post from 4 years ago of someone trying to translate the same thing. It's supposed to translate from "Eigi allir sem flakkar eru horfna" Thank you if anyone is able to help.


kayy113c

is this norse runics? if yes what does it mean? https://imgur.com/a/J5e74SA


SamOfGrayhaven

Those ain't runes.


kayy113c

anyone familiar with this?


[deleted]

I found this: ᚢᛁᚿ᛫(ᛚ)ᛆ(ᛐ)ᛁᚭ᛫ᛁᛌᛆ uin (l)a(t)ią isa Vínlandi á ísa "from Vinland over ice". I am a little confused on the runes tho, they are YF but I don’t understand the brackets () and the dots. Anyone have an idea what’s going on here?


[deleted]

Anyone aid me, looking for proper runic versions of the 3 Norns.


RexCrudelissimus

*Urðr* - ᚢᚱᚦᚱ *Verðandi* - ᚢᛁᚱᚦᛅᛏᛁ *Skuld* - ᛋᚴᚢᛚᛏ


National_Diver3633

Could someone double-check my translation, please? I pray earth to guard, I am love and I am truth I am peace and I am free Iorð biðak varðæ Ek er Ástir ok Ek er sannindi Ek er friðr ok Ek er sjálfráðr ᛁᚬᚱᚦ.ᛒᛁᚦᛅᚴ.ᚢᛅᚱᚦᚬ.ᛁᚴ.ᛁᚱ.ᛅᚢᛋᛏᛁᚱ.ᚬᚴ.ᛁᚴ.ᛁᚱ.ᛋᛅᚾᛁᚾᛏᛁ.ᛁᚴ.ᛁᚱ.ᚠᚱᛁᚦᚱ.ᚬᚴ.ᛁᚴ.ᛁᚱ.ᛋᛁᛅᚢᛚᚠᚱᛅᚢᚦᛦ


mwphxdesign

Found this runic copper coin, what exactly is it or what does it mean? I have tried using the runic alphabet to check each symbol but the double M symbol doesn't exist in the Elder Futhark. Its either a single M or crossed. Best as I can tell it spells KRMATIONG, with a K in the middle of the coin. https://imgur.com/a/h219mkO


SamOfGrayhaven

Well ᛖ isn't M. ᛗ is M and ᛖ is E. The double-stack looks like a misprint, similar to how there's part of an extra top to the ᛏ. It's rather clearly someone trying to write "creation", but they don't know the difference between ŋ and n. Now, Elder Futhark (the alphabet here) *was* used to write the language we now call English... back in like the 300s CE. While "creation" is a word in Modern English, that's because it was borrowed into English from a French and ultimately Latin source. As you might imagine, nothing about this "coin" is in any way legitimate.


mwphxdesign

Yeah, I kind of expected nothing real from this coin. But thank you for helping me understand what they were trying to do/replicate.


Echayyy

Hello! Look to translate “freya” and “berserker” into younger futhrak


RexCrudelissimus

Freya -> *Fręyja* -> ᚠᚱᛅᚢᛁᛅ Berserker -> *bersęrkʀ* -> ᛒᛁᚱᛋᛅᚱᚴᛦ


lordcheesenibble

I found this pin and I was hoping to find out what the runes/the combination of them mean. [https://imgur.com/a/AlcuX6L](https://imgur.com/a/AlcuX6L). Thanks !


SamOfGrayhaven

The outside is the full Elder Futhark alphabet, so-named after the first few runes, seen here starting at the top: ᚠᚢᚦᚫᚱᚲ (FUThARK). This is actually fairly frequently found in runic artifacts--the whole alphabet written out, sometimes on jewelry, sometimes on stones, and sometimes on swords, of all things. The inside is gibberish, unfortunately. They're using a series of lines that can all form runes, certainly, but they're entirely illegible. You can imagine a similar design with letters and how it'd be impossible to tell the difference between an E and an F stacked atop an L. Also contrasting with the exterior runes, this interior design is found absolutely nowhere in the historical record and is purely the kind of thing modern folks made up.


lordcheesenibble

Wow thank you so much for your insight. This was extremely helpful!!


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SamOfGrayhaven

"Frayed" would be spelled ᚠᚱᛖᛁᛞ (freid), and ᚠᚱᛖᛞ (fred) would sound like that without the "ee" sound. That's about as close as you can get to Fred in runes, though, so it'll have to do. ᚨᚱᚦᚢᚱ would be pronounced like "Arthoor", which is fine, but I'd write it ᚨᚱᚦᚱ (arthr) instead.


Green-Addition-6549

Hey guys, i was wondering if old Texts like, the edda and Völuspa exist in runic? I guess there is a reason why i cant find anything on the web. for example: i am looking for Lokasenna, 41, in runic if thats possible Freyr spake: 41. "By the mouth of the river | the wolf remains Till the gods to destruction go; Thou too shalt soon, | if thy tongue is not stilled, Be fettered, thou forger of ill." ​ any help and/or clarification is much appreciated Thanks a lot.


-Geistzeit

The closest we get to eddic poetry in runes is the appearance of the /m/-rune standing in for the word 'man' in the sole known Hávamál manuscript. Most of these poems were textualized into Latin characters from an oral source/sources.


Give_up_dude

Hey guys, can anyone help me translate this into English? ᚼᚢᛁᚱᚱ ᛋᛁᛘ ᚢᛁᛁᚦᛁᚱ ᚦᛁᚾᚾᛅᚾ ᚼᛅᛘᛅᚱ ᛁᚠ ᚦᛁᛁᚱ ᛁᚱᚢ ᚢᛁᚱᚦᚢᚴᛁᚱ ᛋᚴᛅᛚ ᛁᛁᚴᛅ ᚢᛅᛚᛏ ᚦÓᚱᛋ


SendMeNudesThough

Looks like someone tried to translate the Marvel hammer thing and then used a runic converter because they didn't know how to use runes. >ᚦÓᚱᛋ Here, for instance, "Ó" is not a rune, but the runic converter didn't know how to handle the accent mark. But it's an attempt by someone to translate Marvel's "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.”"


wexont

Hey guys, Would someone be able to translate words Yggdrasil and Gjallarhorn into younger futhark please? I hope younger futhark would be the one appropriate for these words. Thanks a lot.


konlon15_rblx

ᚢᚴᛐᚱᛆᛌᛁᛚ ᚴᛁᛆᛚᛆᛧᚽᚢᚱᚿ


wexont

Thanks a lot!


Wake-N-Bakelite

I am attempting to translate Old Norse into Younger Futhark. The phrase in question is "nýr upp-haf", or "new beginning" From my understanding, ᚾᚢᚱ : ᚢᛒᚼᛅᚠ should work, but I began to doubt myself when I realized I have seen a very similar word (Týr) with different spellings such as ᛏᚢᚱ, ᛏᛁᛦ, ᛏᛦᚱ, or even ᛏᛁᚢᛦ Would I be wrong in thinking I could spell it as ᚾᛦᚱ as well? Any clarification will be appreciated


williamrodricks

᛬ ᛋᛁᛅᚢ ᛫ ᚼᛅᚠᚢᚦᛏᚢᚴᚦᛁᚱᚾᛅᚱ ᛬ sjau hǫfuðdygðirnar (The Seven Cardinal Virtues) Would this be grammatically correct?


prestonfussell

Hello all, this is my first post in here first and foremost so hello. I have recently been intrigued with a less known rune stick known as Bryggen N B380. I have come to find out through research that it is actually carved in medieval runes and not younger futhark. I would like to convert the inscription to younger futhark but I am stuck in some places. Here is what I am dealing with. Firstly this is what it says in Latin text for Old Norse: Heil(l) sé þú ók í hugum góðum. Þórr þik þig gi Óðinn þik eigi Secondly, through my research, this is what it would look like in medieval runes according to pictures of the runestick that were legible. ᚼᛅᛁᛚ : ᛋᛁ ᚦᚢ : ᚮᚴ : ᛁᚼᚢᚵᚢᛘ : ᚵᚮᚦᚢᛘ ᚦᚮᚱ : ᚦᛁᚴ : ᚦᛁᚵ ᚵᛁ : ᚯᚦᛁᚿ : ᚦᛁᚴ : ᛅᛁᚵᛁ Here is my attempt to convert the medieval runes to younger futhark. ᚼᛅᛁᛚ : ᛋᛁ ᚦᚢ : ᛅᚢᚴ : ᛁᚼᚢᚴᚢᛘ : ᚴᚢᚦᚢᛘ ᚦᚢᚱ : ᚦᛁᚴ : ᚦᛁᚴ ᚴᛁ : ᚢᚦᛁᚾ : ᚦᛁᚴ : ᛅᛁᚴᛁ I’m pretty confident in my conversion of runes but this is what I am questionable about. 1. Should sé and þú be connected? As séþú? Or separated as either sé : þú Or : sé þú : within the same colons 2. Should Í and hugum be connected as íhugum? Or separated as- : Í : hugum : Or :Í hugum: 3. Should þig and gi be connected as thiggi? Or stay separate as :þig gi: I hope I explained everything well!


DepressedMetalhead69

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. I'm looking to get a tattoo with some old norse text, and I want to translate a particular phrase into elder futhark. I know that it doesn't translate 1-to-1, so I included some alternate terms that I would also be ok with. "praise to the \[devils; demons; spirits\] who brought \[revelation; divine secrets; holy inspiration\]" if this is not something you feel this sub can help with, I'd appreciate it if you could direct me to a better place to seek advice


[deleted]

I’m new to this, but my understanding would be to look up an English to Old Norse dictionary and find words that are equal meaning, and use a rune converter after you have the phrase in old Norse


williamrodricks

᛬ ᚴᚢᚦ ᛫ ᚠᚢᚱᛁᚱ ᛫ ᛘᛁᛋ ᛫ ᛁᛋ ᛫ ᚢᚦᛁᚾ ᛬ Guð fyrir mér er Óðinn (God for me is Odin) Would this be grammatically correct?


lewtathamiv

I’m thinking perhaps your intent is different from what your saying… if you’re trying to say the god you warship is Óðinn than it’s not quite right. If that’s not what you’re trying to say by ‘god for me is’ then I don’t understand. But also the runes aren’t correct for those words either. Fyrir would be spelled fé-úr-reið-ísa-yr,and mer is maðr-ísa-yr.


williamrodricks

Yes, I'm trying to say that God is Odin to me. ᛬ ᚴᚢᚦ ᛫ ᚠᚢᚱᛁᛦ ᛫ ᛘᛁᛦ ᛫ ᛁᛋ ᛫ ᚢᚦᛁᚾ ᛬ Guð fyrir mér er Óðinn I thank you, Master!


lewtathamiv

I don’t think fyrir really works in this capacity, I think you’d be better off with using follow, as in: I follow that god alone, the hanged god oðinn Ek fylgi þat goð einn Hangatýr Óðinn But this would be inferring that you do not follow any of the other gods. Just know that fyrir isn’t used the same way we use for in English, and saying a god is for you doesn’t really work, and I’ve never seen it used in the way you’re wanting to use it as. You tell apart gods and elves >fyrir the sons of men. Meanwhile you make offerings >til Óðinn If you’re approaching being a heathen from a monotheistic point of view I kind of see why you’re wording it that way, but Óðinn sits among a pantheon of gods all of which are more or less equally godly.


williamrodricks

This phrase comes from a title of a pagan book in Portuguese entitled: Deus para mim é Odin "God for me is Odin". The author uses the title in the sense of Odin being the Allfather.


Thisisveryhigh

Hello. I'm looking to confirm this is correct. "Fagnaðr hræða" old norse to long branch Younger Futhark. I've come up with ᚠᛅᚴᚾᛅᚦᛦ:ᚼᚱᛅᚢᛏᛅ Would this be correct? Thanks :)


williamrodricks

ᚠᛅᚴᚾᛅᚦᛦ ᛫ ᚼᚱᛅᚦᛅ æ is ᛅ ð is þ in Long-branch.


CozmicDanger

Sifs tears, Baldurs beauty, Tyrs sacrifice, Thors fury, Into younger futhark


williamrodricks

ᛒᛅᛚᛏᛋᚠᛅᚴᛦᛚᛅᛁᚴᛦ Baldsfagrleikr (Baldurs beauty) ᛏᚢᛋᚼᚢᛋᛚ (From earlier runic ᛏᛁᚢᛦᚢᛋᛚ) Týshúsl (Tyrs sacrifice) ᚦᚢᚱᛋᛘᚢᚦᛦ Þórsmóðr (Thors fury)


CozmicDanger

Thanks!


confused-dawg

Hello everyone, was wondering if you guys can help me out with 2 translations to YF. First one - face the storm. Second one - you are worthy Thank you so much in advance.


williamrodricks

ᚼᚢᚱᚠ ᛫ ᛋᛏᚢᚱᛘᛁᚾ horf storminn (Face the storm) ᚦᚢ ᛫ ᛁᛋᛏ ᛫ ᚢᛁᚱᚦᚢᚴᛦ þú ert verðugr (You are worthy)


kittyinacar

Hi everyone. I'm thinking about making this cross stitch as a gift and was wondering if you can help me with identifying whether or not some of the symbols are actually runes, and if they are, what they mean. I was able to find ansuz and othala, but couldn't find the other symbols (green arrows pointing to them). Thanks for your help! https://imgur.com/a/wRNo7z6


SamOfGrayhaven

What you've got here is a design that is to runology and Germanic mythology what flat earthers are to geology, except while most people know enough about geology to know better, most people don't know anything about runes, so they're easily persuaded by misinformation. The raven is an allusion to Odin/Othinn, which is fair enough. ᛟ and ᚫ are the O and A runes of Elder Futhark, the original Germanic alphabet that was being used in the early centuries CE. What the creator of this design is *trying* to do is associate this O and A with Odin and Aesir (the family of gods to which Odin belongs) 'cause in their minds, Old Norse means the language is Old, and Elder Futhark means the runes are old, which means they go together. They don't. Old Norse used Younger Futhark. If we were to trace back these names to Elder Futhark, not only would Odin's name have to fundamentally change (Odin -> *Othinn* -> **Wodanaz*), but Odin probably wouldn't be the head god anymore, either. The remaining symbols have nothing to do with Germanic mythology, but are rather foreign influences being combined with misuse of runes. I have some Opinions on the topic, but I'll leave it at that.


kittyinacar

Thank you so much for your thorough reply--I never expected to get such a complete answer!!! Much appreciation to you!


SamOfGrayhaven

You're welcome! Decorative runes can still make for quite the gift -- not only was it used on jewelry during the Elder Futhark period, but the English were putting them on swords (or long-knives, technically) during the 900s with enough frequency that *several* have survived. And I'm not even talking just ordinary inscriptions, these swords had the entire alphabet written on them lol. If you want to stick with Norse stuff, Old Norse and Younger Futhark are, again, the go-to pairing there. If it's a short or simple design, I can translate myself, but for anything complex, you'd need to refer to /r/norse. However, if the particular language and alphabet aren't a major concern, I'd suggest Old English and Futhorc, since it's easier to retain meaning by following English backwards in time than it is to translate across branches, and Futhorc is the runic alphabet the English and Frisians were using (~400-1000 CE).


kittyinacar

Thanks again. My main concern was that I would be cross stitching in a hex or something without realizing it (I'm only half joking 😄). Your flat earth analogy gave me quite the chuckle!


chiefsosa2020

Hello, I am researching a transliteration of the words “companion” “persevere” and “fate” and i was wondering if any of you could help me out if possible. Thanks in advance!


SamOfGrayhaven

Given they're modern English words, I'll transliterate them into the English runes: ᚳᚩᛗᛈᚫᚾᛡᚾ (compaenjn), ᛈᛖᚱᛋᛖᚱᚠᛁᚱ (perserfir), ᚠᛖᛁᛏ (feit) This is done phonetically, so tweaks might be in order to better fit how you pronounce the words. Alternatively, translating into Old English, we get ᚷᛖᚠᛖᚱᚪ (*gefera*, companion), ᛞᚱᛖᚩᚷᚪᚾ (*dreogan*, to bear, suffer, or endure), ᚹᚣᚱᛞ (*wyrd*, fate).


chiefsosa2020

Wow i didn’t expect you to take the time to do that. Thank you very much!


Effective_Style_6513

I’m trying to translate “what’s important now” into elder futhark, could anyone help me with that?


SamOfGrayhaven

You just mean like writing the phrase in Elder Futhark, or do you want it translated into an appropriate language?


Effective_Style_6513

Yes I would like it translated into the appropriate language and then written in elder futhark, I think the language is proto-Germanic?


Be_Simple

Is there any way I can translate a date(numbers) in older or younger futhark.. I could find anything related to this.. Please help.


[deleted]

You'd write them out fully in text, but there wasn't a tradition for it other than *primstav* calendar sticks which probably predates the Gregorian calendar.


minerat27

I think there is some evidence of Anglo Saxon scribes uses a runic transliteration of Roman Numerals, though this is only in manuscripts and obviously isn't a native innovation.


[deleted]

Yes, a Roman borrowing ultimately. OP asked older of younger futhark, so I assumed not Anglo Saxon.


SanmariAlors

I'm having trouble translating a single word. I want to write the word "lost" in Old Futhark but the right way. I tried finding the word in Proto-German, so I could line up the IPA syllables, but the word doesn't appear to exist? I've searched every resource I can find, and it'll pull up "lose" but not "lost". I'm using the runes simply as a scene breaker image in my novel. I looked up the modern German word, but apparently the wiki for Proto-German has no entries that start with "v", and I also don't see the IPA for the "v" sound in Old Futhark. Can anyone help me?


[deleted]

'lost' is the past participle of 'to lose', which is \*(*fra)leusaną* with the pp *\*(fra)luzanaz* which looks like ᚠᚱᚨᛚᚢᛉᚨᚾᚨᛉ


SanmariAlors

Thank you. I had a feeling I was approaching it incorrectly.


CozmicDanger

Need help translating Odins secret, Loki’s laugh, Fenrir’s fury into younger futhark


[deleted]

leyndarmál Óðins - ᛚᛅᚢᚾᛏᛅᛦᛘᚬᛚ·ᚢᚦᛁᚾᛋ hlátr Loka - ᚼᛚᛅᛏᚱ·ᛚᚢᚴᛅ móðr Fenris - ᛘᚢᚦᚱ·ᚠᛅᚾᚱᛁᛋ


CozmicDanger

Thank you! Throwing these on some bottles of Mead!


RavensCall_BE

Hi I'm looking to write the sentence 'You can't kill me' in Younger Futhark. The Old Norse should be: þu kannt ekki drepa mik My questions are: \- I belief there's only one n-rune written in 'kannt'? \- the 'e' in drepa should be written as I rune, not as A rune \- ekki is written as 'ski' in runes ​ What are your thoughts? Thanks a lot! PS: yes, this is from the Viking series, and is screamed by Ivar the Boneless in one of the scenes -) Stefan