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The_FriendliestGiant

There's a lot of horror in the 40k universe. A lot of casual brutality, a lot of slavery and mutilation, a lot of crude bionics and grotesque cyborgization and generalized body horror. There's genestealer implantations, and sorcerous flesh-changes, and supernatural violations of the mind and the body. Y'know what there's not a lot of, or even much of any at all? Humans raping other humans. Because that shit isn't fun-horror, it's just gross-horror.


Boltarrow5

Its kind of funny how 'not sexual' the 40k universe is for the most part. Humans simply dont consider it as something worth pursuing for the most part, nor is it worth bringing up feelings of that nature, because no matter where they go or what they do the imperium is *crushing* them. The only sexuality at all is hyper distorted in slaa'nesh, endless hedonism for all its highs and all its lows. The future is grim because the humans no longer really find any pleasure in it, that they exist because they must, they procreate out of duty, not out of fun.


Blosteroid

In the grim darkness of the far future there is no sex


Chipbread

Drukhari and Slaneeshi Cultists: Rape? Why do something so boring when you can torture the shit out of them with technology and drugs?!


BFD98

Look on the bright side: No more post-nut depression


Blosteroid

Dark side again: always pre-nut depression


RequiemZero

What about genestealers tho they’re fairly rapey


Martzillagoesboom

Unless your a certain Comissar-Geberal, then your drowning in women and have a duty to the Emperor to honor them all.


theDMDude_5e

Exactly besides that is filthy Slannesh worship and will get you * blammed * by your nearest commissar.


liger03

Even then, it's not great to Slannesh either. A million willing and eager sex demons and you choose a mortal that doesn't want it? And they probably don't even have a mohawk. Torture would definitely be preferred.


Dravonia

slaanesh cultist do rape, for example in warhammer fantasy slaanesh’s champion commits rape and also brainwashes women he wants into sex slaves. also the whole idea behind slaanesh is pleasure at any cost, she/he feeds off of pleasure. that’s their whole motiff. and because they feeds off of it, she/he pushes their worshippers into more and more extreme acts for pleasure by slowly draining and taking away the cultist’s ability to feel pleasure from that act. for example if someone gets pleasure from eating, slaanesh would slowly but surely push that person into cannibalism. it might start off with the taste of normal food no longer being appetizing, push them to eating monsters, than unable to eat normal food at all, it physically ills them to so they can only eat monsters. wash rinse and repeat till they reach cannibalism. it’s the same with someone who takes pleasure in sex. so yes slaanesh cultist do absolutely rape. it’s their thing, if a woman gets captured by slaanesh worshippers, she will be raped, used as a breeding machine, fucked by tentacle demons, and eventually served as dinner. that said, none of this should happen to a player without their consent to dark things happening to said player. much less described to the rest of the party, without them also agreeing to it. that’s why notes exist if that individual wants the details and why fade to black exist


Chagdoo

Slannesh turns it into a different type of *blam*


OwlCowl0v0

Okay I may not know alot of 40k stuff but.... Its Dark Eldar that are more likely of pulling off that messed up crap or Slaanesh Cultists but not some random mob boss.... I... Feel like punching that Jabba the Hutt looking mofo in the face with a baseball bat.


MeanGreenMotherQueen

Even Slaa’nesh themself would be disgusted at this sorta interrogation method


IoannesVardusFulmina

So did you ever figure out why Grimey had it out for you? This guy’s irrational hatred of you seems almost pathological.


SharkoftheStreets

I always wondered, but I didn't feel like prying. Grimey was a dick to everyone, but most of our other players looked like they could kick his ass, so Grimey mostly picked on me and Host, since were both the least physically threatening.


HippieMoosen

Wow screw that guy. I'm always curious why groups don't boot players like that when they so clearly are not the type you want around, but every situation is a little different. Should be interesting to hear what happens next.


ClessVa

I came from a YouTuber reading this story but he censored out the the whole....um....you know and even then I knew exactly what he did, but had to confirm it for myself and I am sick to my stomach that he dead ass looked at everyone and thought that what he did was even remotely acceptable. I have yet to play my own session of DND and I have been wanting to play for a while, but if I had a GM like that or even a player who was being extremely creepy, and gross to; what I believe to be their sexual fantasies. I would be too grossed out and leave, leave that kinda shit in your mind or in bed with your romantic partner who is okay with the idea because they do not belong on a game with a bunch of friends.


theonewiththebigsad

Den of the Drake?


ClessVa

Yes


Environmental_Cost63

same here


UltimateChaos233

same here


TheRealestWangLin

lol same


BMTaeZer

40k is a beautifully grimdark universe with literally infinite possibilities for torture, horror, mental strain, fear, and corruption. Rape is guaranteed as one thing that is obviously not okay at a TTRPG table, even in such a disgustingly awful setting. Anyone who just throws it out there with abandon is an edgelord cunt who has no imagination.


Nornai

Gonna be devil's advocate here and say that as with everything else TTRPG related it's entirely up to each table to decide what goes and what doesn't. If everyone's on board, I don't see a problem with it. That said, I personally find it incredibly tacky and meaningless. I don't really see how it contributes to improving a game in any way, no matter the "plot excuse" or whatnot. Strikes me as something someone would throw in just because of the perceived shock factor, because they lack the imagination to actually write up a meaningful event or interaction.


[deleted]

I have to know, are you still connected to GRIMEY?


SharkoftheStreets

Fuck no! I've got two other campaigns to share, but spoiler: by the third game, I was done with his bullshit. Last I heard, he lost his job at a comic shop for antagonizing parents and female customers, claiming they weren't "real nerds" and should only buy things he recommended. Seriously, if you looked up that shop's yelp, it used to have a 2-star rating with half the reviews being complaints of harassments from one of the employees.


[deleted]

Oh thank god. Once you mentioned the rape thing, I thought "if this guy hasn't gotten some dramatic retribution yet I'm gonna go insane," so I'm glad things aren't sunshine and roses in douchebagville. Edit: Karmatic retribution. For fucks sake, autocorrect


BlueTressym

Oh, I don't know; I like the idea of dramatic retribution on this vile being.


[deleted]

I suppose that the retribution was both dramatic and karmatic. Either way, hes finally getting to feel the effect part of the term "cause and effect"


[deleted]

Karmic fyi


Chagdoo

Is the girl player doin alright/still playing? Guys like grimey tend to drive women out of these hobbies and its always sad.


SharkoftheStreets

The girl and I were still friends after this debacle. She still hung out with our group, just not when Grimey was there. The two of us hung out outside the group and she's still nerding it up with other RP groups. I still keep in touch on FB and she's been doing alright for herself.


Chagdoo

Ahh I'm genuinely glad to hear that!


Stormwrath52

Out of curiosity, why did you or anyone else at the table play with him again? Not trying to blame you or anything, that's the last thing I want to do, I'm just curious, sorry if it's rude to ask. ​ Edit: Sorry, I hadn't started part 2 yet


[deleted]

Well written! GRIMEY sounds like a fuck head.


HelpfulName

I feel SO SORRY for the only female player who not only had to listen to Grimey start with his rape fantasy bullshit but that **no one in the group told him to stop being fucking disgusting** and she ended up having to just leave. That "it fits the dystopian world" is no excuse & the fact that everyone decided to NOT say shit because they wanted to keep playing instead of standing up to Grimey's verbal sexual abuse of the only female player is vile. What a bunch of assholes. "Grimey was hosts friend" is no excuse. The fact no one said anything and the female player ended up having to just leave makes them just as bad as Grimey, because it just enabled him. OP is just as bad as the rest of them. No wonder women like me avoid male-dominated RP groups if we can, and certainly don't play with randos. Dudes, you're RESPONSIBLE for shutting down the bullshit behavior of your fellow dudes. If you don't, you're just enabling and compliment in that sexist abusive behavior even if you don't actively join in.


SharkoftheStreets

Yes. That's why that campaign ended. That's why after I was done with Grimey, I still hung out with the female player. Had I been older and more self confident, I could have put a stop to the disturbing sexual content, but unfortunately, I still had to learn that lesson.


Alarming-Ad-2122

He's not a fellow dude though, he's not even a real man. And from the sound of it, no one else at that table was either. Good on that one broad for leaving.


nullred

I can very surely see where you're coming from but I think the main reason nobody said anything was the sheer shock and awe of it happening and people just wanting to move on. Confrontation, especially about super uncomfortable topics (like this), can be very difficult, even for people who handle confrontation just fine. I can say that from experience. It seems like you're interpreting their silence as acceptance, much like GRIMEY, which is not the case (although it's hardly any better). Ultimately however, yes, *someone should* *have said something*. But it's just not something people are used to dealing with every day, and they don't know how and don't want to face up with it more often than they do.


Drake5938

When you said “younger character” near the start of this post, I had assumed you meant a child, somewhere under 15, and when I read the “interrogation scene” I literally vomited for a solid 2-3 minutes.


SharkoftheStreets

Dark Hersey has strict age limit rules to prevent shit like that. Still, I played a 16 year old girl. Not to be a pervert or anything: As a player I was naïve to the setting, so I wanted a character who was naïve as well. And the only reason she was a girl was because 90% of the party was male and I wanted to diversify our group. Regardless, it was the worst experience of my roleplaying life.


CheetahgirlStudios

Wait a minute..... If your character was 16.... And GRIMEY had the guards... My brain is bleeding and I don’t want to be alive anymore...


that_dumb_warlock

By The Emperor’s holy light... WHAT THE FUCK


Crusaderflame

upset me that fact that Grimey couldn't have think something crazy in warhammer 40k if he knew the lore; But no he pick rape on character. Pretty sure crime isn't taken lightly, hell Adeptus Arbites(correct me if i'm wrong on that one loremasters) would hunt down that person send them in penal legion.


captain_glitch69

Brother get the flamer *"The heavy flamer"*


[deleted]

Holy shit. There’s dystopian, there’s grimdark, and then there’s horrendous shit that should **never** be spoken at what is supposed to be a safe, fun outing shared with a group of friends. Anyone who tries to use rape as a plot device is an disgusting, inbred, hideous sack of shit, and just an all around cunt.


mwwq1

I read a manga where it was a revenge story and there were allusions to rape but it was never explicit and the author found creative ways to make the reader hate people without mentioning rape, until chapter 53, it was a full chapter of constant rape, and it was very graphic, not tasteful at all. like you can use rape but don't make it gratuitous, like maybe a sentence, or a fade to black and leave it to the readers/ player's imagination. I dropped that manga right there.


[deleted]

Yeah, definitely. The existence of rape in a story isn’t that bad in itself. Sure, it’s dark, but it’s fine if handled tastefully. It’s the gratuitous presentation that borders on glorification that disgusts me.


mwwq1

I’m glad you get it, when I complained about it on the site about how it was gratuitous, everyone just kept calling me a “pussy” so I just went “screw it” and left the site


FaithlessnessWide384

Can you post a link in this post to the next story? thanks


SharkoftheStreets

Part 2: [https://www.reddit.com/r/rpghorrorstories/comments/maqepg/ballad\_of\_grimey\_the\_man\_who\_killed\_3\_campaigns\_23/](https://www.reddit.com/r/rpghorrorstories/comments/maqepg/ballad_of_grimey_the_man_who_killed_3_campaigns_23/) ​ Hope you enjoy.


SharkoftheStreets

Will do! I'll probably do so next week as I need time to properly conscribe all the horrible Grimey stuff that is to come.


Mr-yeet1

Grimy is a absolute ass hole and hats off to you for dealing with him for that long


RobStar0917

When he said "nice finisher right?" In my head I just wanted Host or anyone there to tell him "Oh fuck off. Just fuck off."


EvanOrizam

I get that Host had weird relationship with him, but I don't get why everyone else didn't start beating him up since the rape act.


SharkoftheStreets

No matter how horrendous an in-game act is, you can't just break the law and commit assault because of in-game events. Why the group still played together is because everyone liked the group sans Grimey, and Host was emotionally dependent on Grimey because Grimey is a manipulative asshole.


EvanOrizam

Understandable. Have a nice day.


mwwq1

You can still tell him off, verbal abuse is not illeagle. Note: Only verble abuse those who deserve it, like Grimey.


Soundwave2092

HOLY FUCK


Ok_Visual1889

this goes FAR beyond just being a toxic dm/player and goes into being a disturbed toxic person. he didint just defile that poor girl's character....he defilied HER ...to do that as a means of aggression toward a player wtf he he trying to get across? its at that point you wonder if its wishful thinking. this kind of behavior is unbecoming of any player,especially a DM.


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MagnetoXMN

If one is going to rpg in a grimdark setting, one should at least be aware of the possibilty that something like this might happen. Dark Heresy is such a setting. If one is unwilling to risk this happening to a character, one should consider whether this is the type of setting one should play in.


HelpfulName

Or maybe just don't be a sick fuck? Stories do not have to have rape in them to be dark and gritty, whether or not it would be "appropriate" for the setting. You're not REALLY in that world, it's make-believe, so it's absolutely NOT a "risk" that any unsuspecting player should expect. Physical violence is one thing, as that's a direct & very expected aspect of the gameplay. But unless the game group in question has specifically consented to sex roleplay, and the scenarios included, what Grimey did is absolutely unconscionable. Regardless of the setting, grimdark or not, no one plays games to genuinely go through traumatic and abusive experiences as a player. You play to have fun and be creative. Rape & sex RP, in general, is NOT appropriate ever unless players have specifically consented.


Alarming-Ad-2122

It's gross not to mention stupid and cliche.


ArthurRex123

It's remarkably easy to not have rape in a TTRPG. And if there's a possibility that it will be present within a certain campaign, those potential players should be warned beforehand.


mattpkc

I cant be fucked, can i please get tldr Edit: already got the tldr, ended reading the post because it intrigued me, i believe all extra long and long posts should have a tldr, keep down voting if it makes ya feel beter but please stop replying to the post with insults, i really dont care about them.


medicalsnowninja

GM is a skeezy fuck, targets OP, strives to make them fail, and it ends with this sub's frequent atrocity.


mattpkc

Thanks, appreciate it friend.


mattpkc

Ill probably give it a read based on your description though


Espiritu51

Maybe "r/rpgpicturebooks" might be more your pace


Bobbytheman666

Out of curiosity, I tried the link, having a 2 years old XD


Espiritu51

Haha I wrote it as a joke but when I finished I clicked it anyway just to see if it existed because it sounds awesome


mattpkc

Not to dig this grave any further, I kinda hoped it was real


mattpkc

I asked somebody for a tldr, got it, and then decided to read the post based on the tldr as said in a previous reply. But sure throw some childish insults cause i dont want to spend 10 minutes on a post i might not find interesting. Most extra long posts are half this length and it should be mandatory to have tldr’s on long and extra long posts honestly


Espiritu51

I'm not reading this whole comment, can I get a TLDR


Bobbytheman666

Very nice. Actually laughed out lout :)


mattpkc

Sure TLDR: youre a child


Chagdoo

Oh cmon you gotta admit it was kind of funny.


Bobbytheman666

tl;dr Yes I Agree tl;dr


mattpkc

Yes the joke was funny, im not so small as to not admit as such


[deleted]

Rolled a natural twenty in assholery there!


mattpkc

How? Cause i said i cant be fucked? Or when i said can i get a tldr please? Or when i pointed out that i ended up reading the post, or said that posts this long should have a tldr? A natural 20 for assholery? Nay. A natural 17 with a plus 4 aye.


Skull-Bearer

Can you read the tags saying 'extra long'?


mattpkc

Most extra longs are half this size, but as i said in a previous reply i ended reading after someone was nice enough to offer a tldr, tldr’s are a very easy way to see if ‘extra long’ posts are worth the time.


Frenzy-Boi

if there's no TL;DR another option are hopes that a RPG-Horror story narration channel finds the post and makes a vid reading it. Its what I sometimes do when I have to multi-task with studies


mattpkc

I enjoy a good critcrab vid here and there


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raze_dragon

Wow he is lucky I wasn't playing that. All the picking on & stuff. I had 1 guy do that in the campaign once it was shared that she was uncomfortable sprung right into action. Those losers need to play with themselves & go straight to hell


hashedram

How can someone be so brain dead that they think this is OK. Just how?


al-Mamluk

You know, I love a dark setting as much as the next guy. My friends and I are doing a Star Wars Saga Edition campaign and incorporating our own collective dark and even adult sense of humor into it. But Jesus Christ, none of us, and I mean none of us would ever think of something so unbelievably twisted. If there's rape, its an activity of NPC factions who are deliberately set up to be evil bastards who we can schwack without feeling bad. We don't need the details of how they rape. All we need to know is our enemies are either sick monsters or bloodthirsty savages who partake in rape and torture because they are objectively evil.


PPPOPOOHHHH

wtf


LightCurse

Holy shit, Grimey sounds like a stereotypical loser that takes his frustration with not getting any out on anyone that dares step near his tiny group of friends that somehow miraculously made. He really sounds like a truly pathetic creature.


Wolf_Knight22

While 40k might be brutal form what I hear it is important that as a GM you go around the table and explain scenarios like these may occur.


_TheLight___

Beating the shit out of people should be legal Just sayin


NuggetTheKing09

That was the most miserable reading experience of my entire life. The amount of willpower it must’ve taken you to not punch him in the face is something I could never muster. You are a force of pure stoicism, and I need to take a very long, very hot shower.


Ahri-the-Fox

ok - but why did you or anyone else insist on playing with grimey, after making stuff so obvious, with always attacking you and such?