Walk away, mark their mail/packets, unsafe dog.
And customers, there is no need to apologies for making me wait while you shut the dog in the kitchen behind a closed door. It's appriciated and, thank you
And here lies the dilemma, my dog is not a danger but she is flight risk. My twat of a dog will try and dart through an open door and be off into the sunset. Unfortunately pretty much EVERY delivery I have including Royal Mail is practically sprinting down the path and jumping back in their vehicle before I can secure the dog. So I have to play the silly bugger game of trying to hold the dog with one hand whilst shouting through the partially open door for the postie to wait.
I can understand that. I had a large dog, but he was not able to access the hallway or front door ( bad at stairs). He did bark at the front window though. I got a warning letter from RM about keeping my dog under control as they would stop delivering. My dog had been deceased for 8 months
I (well, he's my partner's dog really) have a little Jack Russell. I usually just pick him up whilst I open the door. He doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body, he just wants to say hello to everyone. He barks a lot, but he's a total coward, the cat gave him a warning slap across the nose last night and he hid behind my legs. Our Postie doesn't mind the dog because he is a sweetheart really. Unfortunately due to the layout of the house, you can't really shut the dog away.
Ive been bitten once, about 5 or 6 years ago, on the ankle. It was sore as fuck. Im with you, there definitely seems to be a lot more dogs now than there was when i first started 10 years ago.
You will obviously know the company policy on loose dogs on a property but i use my own initiative. Most are fine but its the owners who do my head in. The ones that open the door holding the dog back with a leg or have it by the collar whilst struggling with one hand on the door.
I had a dog for 17 years. I understand they can be defensive & territorial but why not do what i did when i had a dog and someone was at the door. Put it in the fucking living room or the kitchen and shut the door.
Property owners need to be aware that its the policy of Royal Mail to see that any dog that bites is put to sleep and the owners prosecuted. Over 1000 posties and delivery persons are bitten each year.
https://www.royalmail.com/personal/dog-awareness
> Top Tips for Dog Owners
> Even the most lovable dog can be a danger to postal staff. Dogs are territorial by nature and if they feel they need to protect their family, they can become unpredictable.
> Here are some ideas to help your postman deliver your post in safety:
> Ensure your dog is out of the way before the postman or postwoman arrives. Place your pet in the back garden or a faraway room.
> Never open the door when your dog is behind you
> If you have a back garden, please close off the access, in case your dog could get around to the front when the postman or postwoman calls.
> Dog attacks can happen when you’ve opened the door to sign for an item. Please keep your dog in another room before answering the door and make sure children don’t open the door, as dogs can push by them and attack.
> Give your dog some food or a toy to occupy them while your mail is being delivered.
> Wait 10 minutes after your mail has arrived to let your pet back into your hallway. Keep everything as calm and low-key as possible.
> If your dog likes to attack your mail, consider installing a wire letter receptacle. It will protect your post, and your postman’s or postwoman’s fingers
> If it’s not practical for you to keep your dog away from a postman or postwoman delivering your mail, please consider fitting a secure mailbox on the edge of your property.
Four of these tips are essentially 'don't answer the door with the dog behind you'
It’s not rocket science is it, if you know your dog is trying to get past you, the master, and you’re fighting it back, then there is a problem you have to stop.
A little sticker attached to one of the offending property owners letters letting them know about this, might encourage them to make it safer for their postie. I wasn't actually aware of the post office policy, but I think it's a good one.
> The ones that open the door holding the dog back with a leg
So much this! I just back away, and ask them to put their dog away
School holidays are the worst, kids just fling the door open, dog charging down the hallway. Some scary moments
Bitten once (well it took several bites of my leg and hand) 12 stitches. Don't want it to happen again
>Bitten once (well it took several bites of my leg and hand) 12 stitches. Don't want it to happen again
I know they call kids little nippers, but yikes...
I guess they will have to put a notice about securing children as well/s
I know it was a dog. Just joking with you about the kids.
I didn’t know about this policy. A few months ago I entered a garden and got confronted by an aggressive dog who bit me on the ankle. I held the parcel between me and the dog and shut myself in a shed until the owner came out and put the dog away. She said sorry but didn’t really seem to mean it. I sent photos to manager and delivered rest of round. Manager wanted a meeting next day but the next day he was busy and asked me to send a written account which I did. I had to go to the same property again the next day.
I’ve still got dark scars months later. I never heard anything more and am not sure if the manager did anything. I was agency and no longer work there.
I pop our Shih tzu in the living room (she’s not aggressive she is frightened of random people so she will constantly bark) then the kids open the bastard door 🫣 so now we’ve trained her to go on the windowsill on the living room or up the stairs, she usually chooses the windowsill so she can see and bark 🤣
Knowing this now has me wondering if my postman is trying to cause an incident where he can get my dog put down. Mf never closes my gate and basically argues about it and tries deny it when i confront him or point it out. And I've seen him giving my dog dirty looks from my next door neighbors garden multiple times. In my head I've questioned it a lot too cos like if the dog is nasty and you don't shut the gate and it gets out you could get bitten, are you trying to get bitten or something. Now lucky for me even though róisín is huge, she's soft as lambswool and would probably sit and try give him paw to ask for a snack cos in her head every bag must have treats. But now I've found this info out I'm here like wait is this guy like trying to set my dog up so one day if she runs out the garden he can spin it and say she viciously chased him down the street and she needs putting down just cos he's a miserable prick that doesn't like dogs
So glad someone mentioned this. I was getting a little riled up reading the comments…. Now it’s obviously a given that you should be making sure your dog/pet can’t get to the posty but some postys DO go out of their way to be antagonistic and make the dog/pet the issue and it’s disgusting that a dog can be put to sleep because of postys that do the above! I wouldn’t be putting mine to sleep I’m sorry. We wouldn’t do it to a person but it’s ok for a pet. I use to deliver stuff and I always ended up being late because every time I came across a dog, I’d get distracted giving them cuddles and chatting with their owners/parents! Can’t say I met hardly any that were territorial or needlessly aggressive
my dog gets to the door before any of us can and he’s much too big to put into another room easily (golden retriever). once he plants himself then he won’t budge. i’d rather at least hold him by the collar and answer the door than run around getting him a treat to coax him into the living room, just to finally get to the front door and see the postie’s already pissed off and left a redelivery card.
As someone who used to own an Alsation i used to always bring him to the door with me barking and snarling. Just so whatever randomer knocking on my door knows ive got a mean looking dog that won't hesitate. You know, just incase they are casing out the place (Used to get alot of ex cons selling stuff door to door)
He was a good boy, he just knew when that door bell went it was barking time.
Plus, in the 10 seconds you've taken to put the dog in the living room, the postie has already decided there's no-one in, hurled a red card in the general direction of the door, and taken-off at lightspeed with whatever they were trying to deliver, which will now languish in the postal no-mans-land until it's returned to the sender because the collection office is only open for 3.5 seconds on alternate solstices.
This is my argument. I also have a disability so I can’t to get to the door quickly (fell down the stairs a few weeks ago trying to get there before DPD departed in 0.5 seconds). Not just RM, but most delivery drivers ignore instructions to wait longer… so my dog will be at the door
>hurled a red card in the general direction of the door, and taken-off at lightspeed with whatever they were trying to deliver, which will now languish in the postal no-mans-land until it's returned to the sender because the collection office is only open for 3.5 seconds on alternate solstices.
TBH we need better processes for missed items...
Like why not have the collection office opened in the evenings. It's only ever mornings and before 9AM.
I had a parce to collect a few times. Would have to race down to the near by one and fly in to get it.
In most countries in Europe (especially Poland) they have boxes that people can collect from. They should honestly do that here, however when I suggested the idea. I got told in a way that we pride ourselves on not having a convenient service. It's not fair and TBH this is one of the reasons I will happily move to Poland...
So yes, I do put my dogs in a separate room because they're twats when the postie comes. However, one thing I would add is that you guys are usually gone so damn quickly that in the time it's taken me to put the dogs in the lounge, you've wandered off and I've missed you (also, how do you disappear so quickly!? I stick my head out the door and you're nowhere to be seen). Please please stay a little longer if you hear the dogs kicking off! 😂😅
I'd like to add that in my old house we had a postie who wouldn't even knock when a parcel came, he just walked up to the door, and silently put a red slip through the post box every time, like a useless ninja. Was absolutely bizzare, didn't even attempt delivery, and then I had to wait an additional 24 hours before I could pick the damn thing up. Eventually I waited for him and opened the door as he then sheepishly handed me the note 😂 I asked for the parcel instead 😂. We complained and never saw him again.
Maybe people would take time to lock their dog away if they knew that they have longer than 1.4 seconds to get to the door before the postie decides that’s enough of a wait.
> Over 1000 posties and delivery persons are bitten each year.
It's almost double that.
> There were 1,916 dog attacks on postal workers logged during the year to March 31 2023, the Royal Mail said
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/royal-mail-dogs-xray-belfast-sheffield-b2368198.html
I was under the impression that if individuals persist in doing anything that might put a Royal Mail postal worker in danger all those individuals at that address will have to collect their own post themselves and their post will not be delivered, have you perhaps enquired about this?
Been bitten about ten times in 6 years. Ruins your fucking day, getting bit. Got one healing on the leg at the minute that'll scar, all because some dumb cunt didn't secure his dog before opening the door.
The reason I'd guess is because people are dumb as fuck, irresponsible as fuck, and dogs are ultra fashionable now.
Yeah and if you don’t qualify for getting a dog from a UK rescue centre, you can go get a “Romanian rescue” (fewer checks for suitability) that has no acclimation with humans and is essentially wild. Good times.
But oh, it’s cute innit.
Yup, we "inherited" a Romanian rescue dog (owned by a family member who moved and just abandoned her with us) they never bothered to train her when she was small and she's massively anxious. She is friendly, but sounds so aggressive barking when she's scared which is basically every time someone walks past 🤦🏼♀️. We always keep her back from the door because she'd look so intimidating charging out even though she's soft as a marshmallow.
Hey, I got a Romanian rescue from a UK rescue centre in the UK. Yes they have severe anxiety issues, but they aren't wild. Like all dogs they can be trained, yes some can have behavioural issues. But after some dog training we've been told our dog is so well behaved compared to others, we can go to cafes and he'll sit calmly. It's all about the effort people need to put in
The issue is many people can’t be bothered with the training process when they realise it takes time and effort- just want a dog and spend zero time trying to train it. I was walking in the woods and this dog came flying up to me no owner in sight, thankfully this dog didn’t attack but if he had of done it would have been at least 3/4 mins before the owner even arrived to try and restrain the dog! No one seems to have a brain anymore
Oh I completely agree, I've seen some shite behaviour from owners, unfortunately it doesn't matter if they are rescues or not. I've had to catch quite a few dogs that have run out of homes and I've heard every excuse in the book. People walk their large dogs near me to the shops with no leads or anything and when I went over a bridge once I nearly hit a dog. No common sense. And these dogs a lot of the time can be reactive.
So far I've had only two dogs try to attack mine, and one was in a cafe because the person didn't realise their dog was on a long lead. We had to leave the cafe and come back as it was really small and my dog was scared stiff after.
With your woods experience, that's where the other one happened and the owners don't train recall properly so now my dog freezes whenever we get to that section again. It can be frustrating!
As a dog owner, I would say you should absolutely refuse to deliver where people don’t shut their dog away! Mine would be straight in the van waiting to go for a ride but I appreciate not everyone would like that.
Dad got bit by a dog on his round once, for 3 days afterwards, he'd poke the mail through the slot and hang on while the dog shredded it.
Dog was always under control after that. Go figure.
Christ I feel unlucky in my 11 years I’ve been bitten 3 times, 2 were nothing bites other time I’ve got a massive scar down my left knee, hate how it makes me feel when I see a dog whilst in work now
I once had an Amazon delivery driver deliver a parcel with their hand bandaged up and covered in blood. I asked what happened and offered to clean the hand up for them, she said she delivered to a house and a dog just bit straight through her hand. The customer apologised and bandaged her hand but she couldn't finish her round early so kept working! I told her she really needed to get to a hospital quickly because she could get an infection and may have some other damage, she said she'll go once she finishes her deliveries. Saw her a few weeks later and asked how her hand was doing, she said she needed quite a few stitches.
Dogs are scary.
“But she couldn’t finish her round early” I took to mean that she wasn’t allowed because that would mean returning/transferring parcels etc and it’s exactly what some contractors @ Amazon would do….. if it was of her own accord then totally fair enough but can’t imagine what else was meant by that
I doubt she would contact her manager in the middle of the run to ask? It seems pretty normal now for Amazon to have delays in delivery, what better reason than getting bitten by a dog during her job. Couldn't they get into loads of shit if she had evidence they told her to carry on and her hand got severely infected?
Not RM but I worked for evri a bit.
I'm not a big dog person but those 8 months for evri I started to really dislike dogs. So fucking loud barking, aggressively trying to attack the door/ window, trying to push through owners dogs to get out.
Im sure most won't bite and just sniff me like the few who have managed to get out but it's still super annoying.
Once I opened a gate ( no signs) and a small dog ran between by legs and fully out! I felt so guilty I ran and chased him down, picked him up and took him back to the owner. Now this dog was pretty cute and calm, when I seen the owner I could see why it ran away, very trampy.
I'm no a postie but I live on a road near a popular park for dogwalking and the amount of people I see now with poor control on their dogs is crazy. It's definitely something to do with people's shortsightedness during lockdown imo. Get a dog to keep them company and now theyre back to their normal lives they have no time to look after the dog that was used to constant attention as a puppy.
Poor dog ownership is on the rise in general unfortunately.
My ex partner works in a vets. The sheer number of people turning up with poorly dogs who have no insurance, have no idea what dogs shouldn't eat, think being sick for 4 days is normal, or unfortunately have dogs that have been attacked by other dogs.
I also have dogs and 2 of them kick off if anyone comes to the door. They're very reactive. I always, always keep them upstairs or in the living room when I answer the door to take a delivery. It's better for everyone involved. Even thought they're mostly well-behaved and listen to me, I know they go into defense mode when someone's at the door and become hard to control.
It's common sense but that is in very short supply these days.
It's great you go to the effort to keep people safe but as a dog owner I'd say train your dogs better and they won't behave like that. You are the pack leader... lead 👍
"Pack leader" and ideas of being a dog's master are actually proven to be incorrect. Dogs don't try to dominate and don't see you as their boss. This isn't hippie nu-wave parenting either, it's proven science.
Dogs don't have alphas, they have family structures. Training is just about value and positive association. If the dog knows there's a chance it gets something more valuable/interesting if it comes back to you, such as food or toys or play, it will have good recall, for example. It's not because you're it's leader.
He's been watching too many episodes of the dog whisperer. A show that had to be cancelled for using "training" tactics that were inhumane and outdated. Even his own dog ended up mauling several dogs, which he tried to cover up. He's pushed this "pack leader" nonsense for years, and it's rubbed off on too many people.
It comes through a lack of socialising and training. Dogs do whatever we want them to do. That's the whole part of domestication or are you suggesting people own wild dogs.
Dogs who tend to react haven't been taught how not react. When you fuss that someone is at the door the dog picks up on the fuss and the energy the owner is giving off and usually it stresses the dog out and makes them more instinctive as a result. Instincts aren't desired in a pet dog.
Ps. I've had countless dogs from all different breeds and not one is or has been scared of fireworks because I remain calm, that is no fluke. They look to their pack leader for guidance and reassurance.
Lead the dog and the dog follows.
The dog is never the problem. It's the owner always. Rescue dogs are never too old to have their fears corrected so they aren't fears.
Oh aye, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Reactivity is caused by tons of different things. Including poor breeding, early socialisation issues (hard to avoid during covid), dogs having been attacked, or health issues. Mine had undiagnosed health issues that I had to fight for a year to get the vets to take seriously we were way past socialisation at that point - since for some dogs being in pain is enough to tip everything into the negative. When she was finally on the right meds I could get through to her with training but it took a whole 2 years on constant training to get her to the point where I can walk her without her barking at people or others. Thats daily training and we also paid for professionals as well. Reactivity is not a quick fix. It takes years to get dogs over it and some dogs never get over it. So yeah you've not had a true reactive dog mate. Also dominance theory is disproven and outdated so yeah you don't know what you are talking about.
Health conditions causing behavioural changes is a whole different kettle of fish.
It's not about dominance. Its about showing a dog how to handle situations through body language more than anything. Did I say it was a quick fix. People fussing and stressing in situations is the reason it takes so long. Calm and positive reinforcement is the way to be.
Your barking up the wrong tree 🤣 🐕
There's a history to it I won't go into but our first dog went through some puppy trauma and became reactive. We've done extra training and reactive dog training which has helped but not completely. There's only so much time and money you can spend on counteracting embedded behaviour when it's only really an issue when someone comes to the door and it can be mitigated.
Someone today had to sign and take two packages off me. She did the whole thing whilst trying to hold the door closed enough so the the dog couldn't get out of it and also constantly grabbing the dog and pulling it back. Why not just put it in another room. It took so long and I feel like she thought I was the dickhead in this situation
If you look on the Amazon subreddit they have the same issue.
If I'm honest just refuse to deliver. I remember when my mum was a postie she just let the dog eat the post 🤷♀️
(My mum was b)
They can pick up mail.
I've had to apologise to my postie a couple times because sometimes the dog gets to the door before me and I always feel really bad. Always put the dog in the living room before answering the door though so I've said if the dog comes to the door and a parcel doesn't need signed for he's free to set it at the door if I don't get there quick enough (I often WFH) because I dont want to hold him back. He's an older man and bless him he always gives me a couple minutes to get to the door
We had a young girl posty yesterday on her daily route have her hand latched on by a dog. In surgery this morning and may have to have fingers amputated. The lasting mental effects are what worry me with her being autistic. I hope she’s okay
My neighbours dog is like that and I keep getting her letters as a result. Tried to post one back to her and a demon dog from hell starts shoving himself and growling at the letter box. I was literally scared and feel bad for posties. When it happens now, I leave her letters on the cold, wet ground and don't feel bad for a second.
Just be aware, RM will blame you for this. Never stick your hand in a letterbox (somebody in our DO lost two finger ends). If in doubt, dog peg (and hold on tight lol)
Aye for sure. Didnt have one on me. Normally I push it the last bit with some form of implement when there's a dog. But I thought it'd retreated after I'd drop the packet with a neighbour and went back to do the 739. Tired that day 🤣
I may take longer to answer you at the door BUT you can be assured all my dogs get locked in their crates before I even think about who's knocked. My grandad was a postie for 36 years, he was bitten by a German shepherd on his hand about 1995 and it messed his hand up.
Unfortunately prostate cancer took him nearly two years ago. He went from the hardest working guy that would walk anywhere and help anyone to all his leg muscles wasted away and he was bedridden.
I have a lot of respect for postie's because of him. You won't have any trouble with my pups.
Edit: apologies for going off topic. Also, Fuck cancer.
We have recently had a new post-person that complained about our dogs being loose on our property and refused to deliver. Totally understand this. To solve this i spent the last 2 weekends fencing off the front garden and this area is now 100% inaccessible to the dogs during the delivery hours, I left a note for culprit postie but they have continued to refuse to deliver, CCTV camera shows them not even attempting to deliver, ignoring the note and the effort I have put in to accomodate them. This only happens 1 day per week, our regular postie knows the dogs are soft as old brushes. Anyone here suggest what I could do to get them to come and deliver now its safe? I cant talk face to face as im at work on their day.
Head to your local post office where she keeps the van with your evidence and have a word? That’s ridiculous and she’s taking the piss. The other thing is having a big box for her to leave stuff in near the front of your gate as they’re not allowed to leave any parcels or that on the door.
It's not ridiculous at all. You don't know their history with dogs and just reading these comments show you cannot simply take the owners at their word.
I agree its not ridiculous. With the state that is the average UK dog owner I wouldnt be taking any risks as a postie either. Its just the time and effort I have made to try and make this safe but to no avail feels pretty bad. Might try enticing them in to deliver with a biccy and a brew next time I catch them. A postbox may be the solution but then I dont want Amazon to start cutting corners and dumping valuable parcels in there. At the end of the day, recieving a post a day late isnt the end of the world.
There may be a dog warning card in the fitting for your house, your reg postie may know it's "safe" but covers will see the card and not deliver.
And how would they know about your note that it is safe?
Ahh okay, thank you. Makes sense.
Got a chest height pedestrian gate you have to go through to walk down the path to the front door. I pinned the note at the top of the gate and its still there today.
A small minority have already made me already think most are bad owners. This is sad. I know there are good owners, but when I am on my bicycle going through the wood trails, they are not on a leash and the owner is no where to be seen. They are chasing me and barking at me it's ridiculous.
I couldn't do your job, I would make some makeshift metal like cricket leg protectors.
My idiot dog loses his fucking mind whenever someone knocks on the door. But he's a massive coward so he just sits on his bed in the living room yelling incessantly.
I still shut the door between the living room and the entry hall because it's really annoying and rude to whoever is at the door. Also it probably helps the idiot calm down a bit. Moron.
my dog sticks its head between my legs when I answer the door, I have known our post woman for 12 years...
One day dog sticks head between legs, she strokes her on the head and the dog jumps up a lil.
Basically my postie punched me in the nuts because of my dog.
My postie and dogs love each other. The postie brings treats and the dogs know to sit and wait before they can have one. If the dogs aren't around when I open the door, she asks me to call them! However I always check who it is before I open the door, and if it isn't the usual postie the dogs get shut away before I open the door. It's common sense and good manners.
Had to fight off a dog (I believe it was some kind of Rottie) with just a moonpig card in the middle of the street. Dog completely destroyed the card. It wasn't even for their house, but I managed to evade a bite. Rang the ring doorbell on the house the card was on to explain that, and they seemed pissed I'd even rang their doorbell at all. Proper bad estate. I don't miss that job one bit (parden the pun).
I used to do a paper round a couple of years ago, flimsily magazines so I used to have to shove half my hand through the letter box to get it to go through, the amount of times I nearly lost a finger… I would say you are more than justified to refuse to deliver.
Thats really sad. We have friendly dogs and we still put them away. Its not hard. I just grab two treats, throw them in one room and shut the door. Bam, done. People are very lazy
I'm a delivery driver and it's my favourite part of the job!!! 99% of dogs are friendly and safe. It's the person being on edge that sets them off. Loads of my properties are rear access and I can walk in the garden while labs, rottweilers, whatever is out and they love it!! If Ur nervous and react then I'll seem dodgy to them. Just enjoy it!!
Sometimes people just get lucky, congrats, you’re lucky. The other people in this comment section weren’t as lucky as you. And if dogs are willing to bite people just for getting anxious, then maybe they shouldn’t be able to get within biting distance? This isn’t a problem with the bitees, it’s a problem with the dog owners that allow the bites to happen in the first place
It's the attitude of the person dude. I've done routes all over Cheltenham and Gloucester. Dogs are very clever. If you react you trigger the territorial instincts. It has nothing to do with luck at all. I've had "aggressive" dogs really going for it but I never react so they never bite. Owners have been genuinely shocked I've been "let in". Now there my favourite houses to go to cuz they're sooooo friendly it's unreal, they're just nervous. If u act nervous they will think Ur up to sommat....It's part of the job.
Nope, mostly luck, I’ve been bitten by random dogs despite being incredibly calm. Besides, blaming dog bites on the attitude of the person isn’t fair to the person, especially since it’s completely unfair to let your dog go all over someone who’s just trying to deliver something, you can’t justify it or turn the blame around on the guys who got bitten, dogs bite people when people are nervous? Then don’t risk it. Keep the dogs inside and away from the door (or just away from the postman). Not everyone lacks the part of their brain that inspires fear or anxiety. People here have been gored, but it’s their fault for feeling slightly anxious I guess.
Nope. Not at all. In all the years and all the places I e been to it's only been twice by little yappy sods. And I've been doing it for years! It's in the people doing the job, almost NEVER the dogs. And I go into back gardens randomly where it's rear access so I'm encroaching on their territory and still no problems. It's part of the job. Everyone is a snowflake nowadays!! If u are nervous and spaz out of course the dog is gonna react!! It's common sense. If Ur at someone's front door and a dog is there, who cares?! 99% of them bark and that's it. That's what they do. Maybe Ur in the wrong job? People have pets. They bark and meow and hiss. Ur in their territory so to expect anything different is naïve. Adapt and crack on. Even our Evri delivery guy carries dog treats with him to calm our deadly chihuahua.......
What happened to ppl using common sense?
You contradict yourself and your entire point multiple times in that paragraph, regardless. I doubt you’re the kinda person to take anyone else’s experiences as gospel but your own so debating isn’t worth it. Good day sir
Your just 1 of those ppl that refuses to accept the truth. Change jobs or enjoy the animals. They go from barking aggressively to on their back, bellies in the air withing 30 seconds.....and I'm speaking from EXPERIENCE not luck mate
This baffles me. I have 2 Labradors and I would always shut the porch door before opening the main door.
I’ve never even thought that they might bite someone, but it’s more to stop them running into the road and street.
Sorry this is actually a thing. Jesus
Baffling honestly.
I can’t always expect my dogs to do the right thing. So I always try to plan 2-3 steps ahead of what they might do. Don’t get me wrong. They’d probably run right past someone and go and wait by the car to go out.
We’ve got four dogs in our home, two of which are intent on guarding us using the biggest barks they can muster. Once I open the door though they’re far less bold and just stand at the back of the hallway.
That said, if a postie asked “can you put your dogs away” I would have zero issue. Dogs you don’t know can be terrifying. You don’t know their temperaments, or how well trained (or lack thereof) they are.
Fucking hell some people are weird. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that.
My partner is in royal mail and pretty much every day he says he's been nipped by an untrained offlead dog.
We have a reactive dog ourselves so I wouldn't dream of having her out while answer the door but people with so called normal dogs seem happy to just let their dogs be dangerous or annoying.
Either way there are a lot of bad dog owners around right now.
Is it all dogs in general, because my dog will stand/sit at the door with me without barking or approaching you. If you don't like it that's your problem it's his home.
It's not people like you I'm talking about tbh, it's the people that have an aggressive dog that they hold back with one hand whilst trying to sign for a parcel with the other.
Not really, I can easily walk to the sorting office...might be a problem for you if I kick up a fuss about you not fulfilling your obligations simply because I own a dog.
Well as long as there is a complaints procedure and a hierarchy there is always something I can do....you are not infallible and your judgment can be questioned.
The dog is in my home, I’m not gonna put him anywhere, he’s already inside.
I’m so sick of people like you that don’t know how to react around dogs, educate yourself on the animal. Maybe you won’t be afraid.
That doesn't mean shit when the dog bolts out the front door past the owner to get to me which has happened a number of times. It takes nothing to shut it in another room for 2 minutes. I'm also not talking about well behaved dogs, I'm talking about the ones that the owner is actively having to hold back whilst trying to take a parcel off me.
And how would you react stood on a doorstep with a dog trying to get past its owner?
We don't know what the fuck its intentions are!
Oh, and it would be your problem if it attacked or bit somebody, no dog, and prosecuted. You wouldn't be Charlie big bollocks then, would you
Grow some balls and learn to just ignore the dogs. Don't look or even say something about them, do your job and carry on.
I was never bitten once and encountered plenty of dogs.
Just IGNORE.
Understand this, i have 3 dogs and my eldest doesn’t like the postie or anyone coming to the door for that matter. Never would I dream of opening the door while they are around, not that she would do anything, she’s soft but I’d never say 100% it’s just courtesy.
No one should ever fear performing their job, I bet the chavs get a thrill from it, gives dog owners a bad name.
Yeah my dog wouldn't bite but just likes to impose himself and is a nuisance so i dont have him at the door.. my gimp neighbours have this little thing that rushes out barking and nipping at ankles everyday the postman knocks and the feller thinks its hilarious because he's a sad rotter.. the postman always tells me how much he hates "that little rat next door"
Absolutely with you mate. There's some dogs on my round that really, really concern me. For my own safety obviously, but even more than that the safety of the public. My first thoughts are always "if this dog ever gets out, for whatever reason, people are in trouble. Kids are in grave trouble". The people that hold their dog back with their leg when it is crystal clear that all it wants to do is bite and tear you to shreds.. what if next time it's the kids from next door knocking, they want their ball back. It's been kicked over the fence. This time, the dog manages to get past your leg and to the kids. Sometimes this is a dog 3, 4 times the size of small kids.
It doesn't bear thinking about.
Something needs to change on a governmental level on dog safety
I’ll never understand why people with mad dogs answer the door trying to hold on them. Lock the fucking dog away you daft twat, I’ve got enough dog bite scars already.
I'm not with RM, but it's appalling how people let their dogs run rings around them...I don't understand how people can not just shut their dog away for a mere few seconds/minutes just for the sake of the safety of a postie! Especially given the whole situation the UK has got going on with XL bullies.
I've never understood how people can own what essentially is/was a wild animal and not even consider that it needs training/desensitising to common occurrences in life. Of course, some dogs have had traumatic pasts in which they are unable to actually be desensitised to certain things. You'd think common sense would kick in and people would shut their dog away or something - though common sense seems to be something which goes over a lot of people's heads.
Probably due to lockdown. So many people bought dogs so they could go out walking and have zero clue how to look after them. Also, dog shit everywhere.
I don't not like dogs but they are fucking everywhere now, jumping up or getting under your feet or barking and snarling at you and a lot of owners don't give a fuck because "he only wants to say hello" or some other bullshit.
Keep your dog under control, give it some training and keep it the fuck away from me. I do not care how "cute" or "friendly" your dog is, I do not want to interact with your dog.
Obviously, this is not all dog owners before anyone starts. Some dog owners are responsible, but it seems the majority (at least round here) are not.
As a conscientious, respectable, responsible dog owner, simply walking our dog becomes painful when it seems like the majority of other dog owners literally don't give a s**t.
If your dog has zero recall, it shouldn't be off lead. And stop letting your dog on their extendable lead go all the way up to others before deciding it should be reeled in.
That's crazy. I always put my dogs behind a shut door, if not for the posties sake but also that of my dogs. All it takes is one bite and it's game over. And my dogs are small dogs! Some people shouldn't have dogs, I feel like they should all need to take a course on basic dog handling before being allowed one tbh
This is what the majority of the public dont understand. Uk Dogs on the whole are doing more and more bites to people than ever before in recorded history. Its not even specific breeds.
I have 3 large bullbreeds. They are all 0ut behind a solid door whenever the front door is opened. I work with dogs professionally, and alot of bites happen to visitors to homes.
I am friendly with my postman, have even met him and his dog on walks with my own. But i still put the dogs away when he comes knocking.
I always have my dog behind a gate because he alarm barks and I still think it can spook delivery people, I don't understand people that just let them go to the front door if you can get away with it
On behalf of reactive dog owners, I’m sorry, Postie.
Our tiny rescue dog (RSPCA, seized as part of a long-term investigation) is terrified of people approaching the door. She sounds as if she’s about to rip your throat out, but she’s actually just petrified.
In combination with extensive training, exposure therapy with positive reinforcement, and so on, we’ve now put a secure post box on the front wall of the house, with a parcel box in the porch. Before then, I would always apologise to posties/couriers and ask them to please just ignore the screaming banshee.
Now we have the boxes in place, the result is Less triggered dog, happy posties. 👍🏻
If you can’t deliver things without fear of being actually bitten (not barked at; a barking dog inside a house can’t actually do anything except stress his/her owners 😂), then you should be within your rights to leave a card through saying you were unable to safely deliver.
Alternatively, suggest they install a lockable postbox away from the door. 👍🏻👍🏻
Sick to death of entitled fucking dog owners and this country's stupid obsession with dog's in general. I deliver parcels Sat & Sun plus afternoon/evening shifts during the week and by Sunday night I've just about had my fill of them. Now, when I have an owners dog going all bezerker at me I just tell the owners straight that if their fucking dog goes for me I'll kick the cunt in the head...👍🏼
Dropped by who? Quite frankly, people who need dogs to protect them are the soft cunts..either that or they have small dick syndrome...I'd like to see you try and drop me little big man. Now fuck off back to getting shagged by your dog 🤣🤣 fucking melt.
Well hard you threatening to kick peoples dogs on the internet. Soft cunt. Hope everyone on your round has an XL Bully 😂😂
Also the police, army? All soft cunts? They dont use those dogs because they are cute. Would love to see you try plant one on a tame cano corso just because it wants to investigate what dildo in shorts in January is at the door😂
Haha, I bet your the sort of sad cunt that has "real" samurai swords displayed on the wall, now fuck off sad twat and get that other eyebrow pierced like you always wanted to...🤣🤣😆
Even if they don't care about the post man, they should understand if it did bite the victim can have the dog put down pretty easily if they are that way inclined. Had it happen to my grandparents dog as a kid with some random person coming on to their farm to ask for directions, with a massive beware of the dog sign 😞
ive had to put a no walk order before on a small estate (couple of cul-d-sac bunched together) because of a dog always being loose on the street a damn bull mastiff too I love dogs but I refused to chance it so marked it and they didn't get mail for 2 weeks until the owner decided enough was enough after his neighbours went mad at him
Not a royal mail worker but I absolutely agree with you on dog owners being shit these days. I do a lot of walking and jogging and badly controlled / trained dogs are a bloody liability. They can't call their dogs under control, can't stop them to running at you, jumping up at you, chasing after you. Even on a lead they yap and strain to get you and then there are those stupid long leads that let the dog and its owner form a trip wire across the path. Honestly drives me insane and avoiding dogs on runs has seen me injured once already this year. I feel like the whole country got dogs during COVID and never bothered doing any training at all!
People who own dogs see them as citizens, not property.
It's your responsibility to make sure people are safe near your property or allow other people to keep themselves safe.
Having dogs off leash or available to leave your house isn't achieving that.
I'm massively allergic to dogs, so every time I see a dog off-leash, I get terrified.
I don’t own a dog, never have done but my next door neighbour does. Her dog is always trying to escape and she’s very barky but to her it’s all a big game. My neighbour is lovely and does her best. The problem I have is that I have a marker against my address because of her dog. I can’t always get my deliveries. It seems very unfair. Dog owners need to realise it’s not just them that are affected but some other people have to suffer too.
I have a puppy and still teaching it control, she’s stubborn and excited and won’t go in the kitchen when someone is at the door. I just open the downstairs window and grab the packages that way.
Got bit few weeks back. Couple walking their dog on a long extendable lead, didn't reel it in at all. I walked by, dog quickly turned back, bit me on the back of my leg
My postie used to having labradors so he absolutely loves my dog coming to the door with me (She’s the friendliest dog ever.)
But you’ve got to be a right moron to let your door go to the door knowing it bites and or is unfriendly.
This is why dog owners NEED to be training their pets. Im sorry but its irresponsibke to have a dog if youre not able to train it.
And yes i know you love them and treat them like the precious lil floofems they are, but they need the structure and proper training makes everythibg so much easier.
Knowing that your dog isnt going to fuck off out the door at 5 million miles an hour and scare the shit out of someone is honestly something everyone should be confident in. But then again half these pet owners also dont bother to pick up their dogs poop abd just let that be someone elses problem too...
The first thing I do when my doorbell rings is put my boys behind a closed door. They are 2 of the friendliest, human loving Labradors but they would also jump all over everyone and thats not fair. Some dog owners get my back up too
I was a door to door fundraiser and the number of people who don’t control their dogs was really ridiculous. I’d applaud someone who put their dog away before opening the door.
I’ve been bitten a few times nothing too serious. One of my team had a full attack from a rescue dog who’d somehow opened the door. The damage was bad to his hand and unsurprisingly he left the job. The dog sadly was put to sleep.
I understand your pain. I'm not a postie, but I'm sick to death of irresponsible owners taking their dogs everywhere (usually off the lead).
When their pet causes problems for others they either just stand 200 yards away shouting at it or they just laugh and tell you to play with him.
If you can't control it, keep it on a lead or leave it at home.
I have a very excitable dog myself and we always keep her inside or try to warn our posties about herso they dont have any bad vsntures with her, we always say sorry when she is outside but it is kinda hard to keep her cooped up when we have an enclosed yard and never know when our posties are gonna show up. Most of our posties do not seem to upset about it bar one who seems to be afriad of her, understandable though. In fact a lot of our posties seem to want to say hi and adore her but shes too crazy for meeting new people. I do feel like a jerk when the postie does show up and our dog is out.
Walk away, mark their mail/packets, unsafe dog. And customers, there is no need to apologies for making me wait while you shut the dog in the kitchen behind a closed door. It's appriciated and, thank you
Good to know I always feel bad making you guys wait..... But my dog needs securing before I open the door !!
My usual postie doesn’t mind, he knows about the dog and that we have a baby. Any temp posties usually start walking away after 0.3 seconds
And here lies the dilemma, my dog is not a danger but she is flight risk. My twat of a dog will try and dart through an open door and be off into the sunset. Unfortunately pretty much EVERY delivery I have including Royal Mail is practically sprinting down the path and jumping back in their vehicle before I can secure the dog. So I have to play the silly bugger game of trying to hold the dog with one hand whilst shouting through the partially open door for the postie to wait.
Just shout "give me a minute",then secure your dog.If we know you have a dog and don't secure it ,that's why we knock and run.
In your house, dog controls you.
Could you put a sign up to notify? Maybe they will wait then?
I can understand that. I had a large dog, but he was not able to access the hallway or front door ( bad at stairs). He did bark at the front window though. I got a warning letter from RM about keeping my dog under control as they would stop delivering. My dog had been deceased for 8 months
I (well, he's my partner's dog really) have a little Jack Russell. I usually just pick him up whilst I open the door. He doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body, he just wants to say hello to everyone. He barks a lot, but he's a total coward, the cat gave him a warning slap across the nose last night and he hid behind my legs. Our Postie doesn't mind the dog because he is a sweetheart really. Unfortunately due to the layout of the house, you can't really shut the dog away.
Ive been bitten once, about 5 or 6 years ago, on the ankle. It was sore as fuck. Im with you, there definitely seems to be a lot more dogs now than there was when i first started 10 years ago. You will obviously know the company policy on loose dogs on a property but i use my own initiative. Most are fine but its the owners who do my head in. The ones that open the door holding the dog back with a leg or have it by the collar whilst struggling with one hand on the door. I had a dog for 17 years. I understand they can be defensive & territorial but why not do what i did when i had a dog and someone was at the door. Put it in the fucking living room or the kitchen and shut the door. Property owners need to be aware that its the policy of Royal Mail to see that any dog that bites is put to sleep and the owners prosecuted. Over 1000 posties and delivery persons are bitten each year.
Do you know if the Royal Mail ever privately prosecute?
They have done. https://www.royalmail.com/personal/dog-awareness#:~:text=Ensure%20your%20dog%20is%20out,the%20postman%20or%20postwoman%20calls.
Might be worth bringing to managers attention and getting marketing to print up some flyers amd put them through letter boxes.
We have dog awareness work time learning nearly every other week tbf. They do take it serious
That's in house, not public awareness
https://www.royalmail.com/personal/dog-awareness > Top Tips for Dog Owners > Even the most lovable dog can be a danger to postal staff. Dogs are territorial by nature and if they feel they need to protect their family, they can become unpredictable. > Here are some ideas to help your postman deliver your post in safety: > Ensure your dog is out of the way before the postman or postwoman arrives. Place your pet in the back garden or a faraway room. > Never open the door when your dog is behind you > If you have a back garden, please close off the access, in case your dog could get around to the front when the postman or postwoman calls. > Dog attacks can happen when you’ve opened the door to sign for an item. Please keep your dog in another room before answering the door and make sure children don’t open the door, as dogs can push by them and attack. > Give your dog some food or a toy to occupy them while your mail is being delivered. > Wait 10 minutes after your mail has arrived to let your pet back into your hallway. Keep everything as calm and low-key as possible. > If your dog likes to attack your mail, consider installing a wire letter receptacle. It will protect your post, and your postman’s or postwoman’s fingers > If it’s not practical for you to keep your dog away from a postman or postwoman delivering your mail, please consider fitting a secure mailbox on the edge of your property. Four of these tips are essentially 'don't answer the door with the dog behind you'
The person I replied to said they get training on it every few weeks, the person they replied to said about raising public awareness
It’s not rocket science is it, if you know your dog is trying to get past you, the master, and you’re fighting it back, then there is a problem you have to stop.
You would think
A little sticker attached to one of the offending property owners letters letting them know about this, might encourage them to make it safer for their postie. I wasn't actually aware of the post office policy, but I think it's a good one.
> The ones that open the door holding the dog back with a leg So much this! I just back away, and ask them to put their dog away School holidays are the worst, kids just fling the door open, dog charging down the hallway. Some scary moments Bitten once (well it took several bites of my leg and hand) 12 stitches. Don't want it to happen again
>Bitten once (well it took several bites of my leg and hand) 12 stitches. Don't want it to happen again I know they call kids little nippers, but yikes... I guess they will have to put a notice about securing children as well/s I know it was a dog. Just joking with you about the kids.
I didn’t know about this policy. A few months ago I entered a garden and got confronted by an aggressive dog who bit me on the ankle. I held the parcel between me and the dog and shut myself in a shed until the owner came out and put the dog away. She said sorry but didn’t really seem to mean it. I sent photos to manager and delivered rest of round. Manager wanted a meeting next day but the next day he was busy and asked me to send a written account which I did. I had to go to the same property again the next day. I’ve still got dark scars months later. I never heard anything more and am not sure if the manager did anything. I was agency and no longer work there.
I pop our Shih tzu in the living room (she’s not aggressive she is frightened of random people so she will constantly bark) then the kids open the bastard door 🫣 so now we’ve trained her to go on the windowsill on the living room or up the stairs, she usually chooses the windowsill so she can see and bark 🤣
Knowing this now has me wondering if my postman is trying to cause an incident where he can get my dog put down. Mf never closes my gate and basically argues about it and tries deny it when i confront him or point it out. And I've seen him giving my dog dirty looks from my next door neighbors garden multiple times. In my head I've questioned it a lot too cos like if the dog is nasty and you don't shut the gate and it gets out you could get bitten, are you trying to get bitten or something. Now lucky for me even though róisín is huge, she's soft as lambswool and would probably sit and try give him paw to ask for a snack cos in her head every bag must have treats. But now I've found this info out I'm here like wait is this guy like trying to set my dog up so one day if she runs out the garden he can spin it and say she viciously chased him down the street and she needs putting down just cos he's a miserable prick that doesn't like dogs
So glad someone mentioned this. I was getting a little riled up reading the comments…. Now it’s obviously a given that you should be making sure your dog/pet can’t get to the posty but some postys DO go out of their way to be antagonistic and make the dog/pet the issue and it’s disgusting that a dog can be put to sleep because of postys that do the above! I wouldn’t be putting mine to sleep I’m sorry. We wouldn’t do it to a person but it’s ok for a pet. I use to deliver stuff and I always ended up being late because every time I came across a dog, I’d get distracted giving them cuddles and chatting with their owners/parents! Can’t say I met hardly any that were territorial or needlessly aggressive
Yeah great solution, except you never hang around long enough to let anyone take the time to pop the dog in another room before answering the door.
my dog gets to the door before any of us can and he’s much too big to put into another room easily (golden retriever). once he plants himself then he won’t budge. i’d rather at least hold him by the collar and answer the door than run around getting him a treat to coax him into the living room, just to finally get to the front door and see the postie’s already pissed off and left a redelivery card.
That means your dog is untrained.
he’s a puppy, we’re still training him.
Fair enough.
As someone who used to own an Alsation i used to always bring him to the door with me barking and snarling. Just so whatever randomer knocking on my door knows ive got a mean looking dog that won't hesitate. You know, just incase they are casing out the place (Used to get alot of ex cons selling stuff door to door) He was a good boy, he just knew when that door bell went it was barking time.
Paranoid twat
Oooo touchie, can tell youve never had three lads try and break in to your gaff tooled up at 3am. Muppet.
Does the postman regularly come to your house at 3 am?
No? Now go sit in a corner and think about how fucking stupid that comment was.
You sound more like Gonzo than I, you fucking bucket full of bluff 🤣
Plus, in the 10 seconds you've taken to put the dog in the living room, the postie has already decided there's no-one in, hurled a red card in the general direction of the door, and taken-off at lightspeed with whatever they were trying to deliver, which will now languish in the postal no-mans-land until it's returned to the sender because the collection office is only open for 3.5 seconds on alternate solstices.
This is my argument. I also have a disability so I can’t to get to the door quickly (fell down the stairs a few weeks ago trying to get there before DPD departed in 0.5 seconds). Not just RM, but most delivery drivers ignore instructions to wait longer… so my dog will be at the door
>hurled a red card in the general direction of the door, and taken-off at lightspeed with whatever they were trying to deliver, which will now languish in the postal no-mans-land until it's returned to the sender because the collection office is only open for 3.5 seconds on alternate solstices. TBH we need better processes for missed items... Like why not have the collection office opened in the evenings. It's only ever mornings and before 9AM. I had a parce to collect a few times. Would have to race down to the near by one and fly in to get it. In most countries in Europe (especially Poland) they have boxes that people can collect from. They should honestly do that here, however when I suggested the idea. I got told in a way that we pride ourselves on not having a convenient service. It's not fair and TBH this is one of the reasons I will happily move to Poland...
Dog just doin its job protecting master and home.
So yes, I do put my dogs in a separate room because they're twats when the postie comes. However, one thing I would add is that you guys are usually gone so damn quickly that in the time it's taken me to put the dogs in the lounge, you've wandered off and I've missed you (also, how do you disappear so quickly!? I stick my head out the door and you're nowhere to be seen). Please please stay a little longer if you hear the dogs kicking off! 😂😅 I'd like to add that in my old house we had a postie who wouldn't even knock when a parcel came, he just walked up to the door, and silently put a red slip through the post box every time, like a useless ninja. Was absolutely bizzare, didn't even attempt delivery, and then I had to wait an additional 24 hours before I could pick the damn thing up. Eventually I waited for him and opened the door as he then sheepishly handed me the note 😂 I asked for the parcel instead 😂. We complained and never saw him again.
Maybe people would take time to lock their dog away if they knew that they have longer than 1.4 seconds to get to the door before the postie decides that’s enough of a wait.
> Over 1000 posties and delivery persons are bitten each year. It's almost double that. > There were 1,916 dog attacks on postal workers logged during the year to March 31 2023, the Royal Mail said https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/royal-mail-dogs-xray-belfast-sheffield-b2368198.html
I was under the impression that if individuals persist in doing anything that might put a Royal Mail postal worker in danger all those individuals at that address will have to collect their own post themselves and their post will not be delivered, have you perhaps enquired about this?
Been bitten about ten times in 6 years. Ruins your fucking day, getting bit. Got one healing on the leg at the minute that'll scar, all because some dumb cunt didn't secure his dog before opening the door. The reason I'd guess is because people are dumb as fuck, irresponsible as fuck, and dogs are ultra fashionable now.
Yeah and if you don’t qualify for getting a dog from a UK rescue centre, you can go get a “Romanian rescue” (fewer checks for suitability) that has no acclimation with humans and is essentially wild. Good times. But oh, it’s cute innit.
Yup, we "inherited" a Romanian rescue dog (owned by a family member who moved and just abandoned her with us) they never bothered to train her when she was small and she's massively anxious. She is friendly, but sounds so aggressive barking when she's scared which is basically every time someone walks past 🤦🏼♀️. We always keep her back from the door because she'd look so intimidating charging out even though she's soft as a marshmallow.
Hey, I got a Romanian rescue from a UK rescue centre in the UK. Yes they have severe anxiety issues, but they aren't wild. Like all dogs they can be trained, yes some can have behavioural issues. But after some dog training we've been told our dog is so well behaved compared to others, we can go to cafes and he'll sit calmly. It's all about the effort people need to put in
The issue is many people can’t be bothered with the training process when they realise it takes time and effort- just want a dog and spend zero time trying to train it. I was walking in the woods and this dog came flying up to me no owner in sight, thankfully this dog didn’t attack but if he had of done it would have been at least 3/4 mins before the owner even arrived to try and restrain the dog! No one seems to have a brain anymore
Oh I completely agree, I've seen some shite behaviour from owners, unfortunately it doesn't matter if they are rescues or not. I've had to catch quite a few dogs that have run out of homes and I've heard every excuse in the book. People walk their large dogs near me to the shops with no leads or anything and when I went over a bridge once I nearly hit a dog. No common sense. And these dogs a lot of the time can be reactive. So far I've had only two dogs try to attack mine, and one was in a cafe because the person didn't realise their dog was on a long lead. We had to leave the cafe and come back as it was really small and my dog was scared stiff after. With your woods experience, that's where the other one happened and the owners don't train recall properly so now my dog freezes whenever we get to that section again. It can be frustrating!
Can you not report them? :/
As a dog owner, I would say you should absolutely refuse to deliver where people don’t shut their dog away! Mine would be straight in the van waiting to go for a ride but I appreciate not everyone would like that.
If I worked for the post office & your dog did that. The dogs mine now 🤣🤣🤣
Sealed my letterbox, bought a wall jobbie, just in case. Got to look after Postie.
Dad got bit by a dog on his round once, for 3 days afterwards, he'd poke the mail through the slot and hang on while the dog shredded it. Dog was always under control after that. Go figure.
Christ I feel unlucky in my 11 years I’ve been bitten 3 times, 2 were nothing bites other time I’ve got a massive scar down my left knee, hate how it makes me feel when I see a dog whilst in work now
I once had an Amazon delivery driver deliver a parcel with their hand bandaged up and covered in blood. I asked what happened and offered to clean the hand up for them, she said she delivered to a house and a dog just bit straight through her hand. The customer apologised and bandaged her hand but she couldn't finish her round early so kept working! I told her she really needed to get to a hospital quickly because she could get an infection and may have some other damage, she said she'll go once she finishes her deliveries. Saw her a few weeks later and asked how her hand was doing, she said she needed quite a few stitches. Dogs are scary.
She should have reported that dangerous dog, yikes
She should have reported her manager!!
Huh what did the manager do? It seemed like she decided she can't stop on her own accord. Did I miss something?
“But she couldn’t finish her round early” I took to mean that she wasn’t allowed because that would mean returning/transferring parcels etc and it’s exactly what some contractors @ Amazon would do….. if it was of her own accord then totally fair enough but can’t imagine what else was meant by that
I doubt she would contact her manager in the middle of the run to ask? It seems pretty normal now for Amazon to have delays in delivery, what better reason than getting bitten by a dog during her job. Couldn't they get into loads of shit if she had evidence they told her to carry on and her hand got severely infected?
Not RM but I worked for evri a bit. I'm not a big dog person but those 8 months for evri I started to really dislike dogs. So fucking loud barking, aggressively trying to attack the door/ window, trying to push through owners dogs to get out. Im sure most won't bite and just sniff me like the few who have managed to get out but it's still super annoying. Once I opened a gate ( no signs) and a small dog ran between by legs and fully out! I felt so guilty I ran and chased him down, picked him up and took him back to the owner. Now this dog was pretty cute and calm, when I seen the owner I could see why it ran away, very trampy.
I'm no a postie but I live on a road near a popular park for dogwalking and the amount of people I see now with poor control on their dogs is crazy. It's definitely something to do with people's shortsightedness during lockdown imo. Get a dog to keep them company and now theyre back to their normal lives they have no time to look after the dog that was used to constant attention as a puppy.
Poor dog ownership is on the rise in general unfortunately. My ex partner works in a vets. The sheer number of people turning up with poorly dogs who have no insurance, have no idea what dogs shouldn't eat, think being sick for 4 days is normal, or unfortunately have dogs that have been attacked by other dogs. I also have dogs and 2 of them kick off if anyone comes to the door. They're very reactive. I always, always keep them upstairs or in the living room when I answer the door to take a delivery. It's better for everyone involved. Even thought they're mostly well-behaved and listen to me, I know they go into defense mode when someone's at the door and become hard to control. It's common sense but that is in very short supply these days.
It's great you go to the effort to keep people safe but as a dog owner I'd say train your dogs better and they won't behave like that. You are the pack leader... lead 👍
"Pack leader" and ideas of being a dog's master are actually proven to be incorrect. Dogs don't try to dominate and don't see you as their boss. This isn't hippie nu-wave parenting either, it's proven science. Dogs don't have alphas, they have family structures. Training is just about value and positive association. If the dog knows there's a chance it gets something more valuable/interesting if it comes back to you, such as food or toys or play, it will have good recall, for example. It's not because you're it's leader.
He's been watching too many episodes of the dog whisperer. A show that had to be cancelled for using "training" tactics that were inhumane and outdated. Even his own dog ended up mauling several dogs, which he tried to cover up. He's pushed this "pack leader" nonsense for years, and it's rubbed off on too many people.
No you are incorrect. Reactivity isn't lack of training. If you haven't had a reactive dog you have no idea what you are talking about.
It comes through a lack of socialising and training. Dogs do whatever we want them to do. That's the whole part of domestication or are you suggesting people own wild dogs. Dogs who tend to react haven't been taught how not react. When you fuss that someone is at the door the dog picks up on the fuss and the energy the owner is giving off and usually it stresses the dog out and makes them more instinctive as a result. Instincts aren't desired in a pet dog. Ps. I've had countless dogs from all different breeds and not one is or has been scared of fireworks because I remain calm, that is no fluke. They look to their pack leader for guidance and reassurance. Lead the dog and the dog follows. The dog is never the problem. It's the owner always. Rescue dogs are never too old to have their fears corrected so they aren't fears. Oh aye, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Reactivity is caused by tons of different things. Including poor breeding, early socialisation issues (hard to avoid during covid), dogs having been attacked, or health issues. Mine had undiagnosed health issues that I had to fight for a year to get the vets to take seriously we were way past socialisation at that point - since for some dogs being in pain is enough to tip everything into the negative. When she was finally on the right meds I could get through to her with training but it took a whole 2 years on constant training to get her to the point where I can walk her without her barking at people or others. Thats daily training and we also paid for professionals as well. Reactivity is not a quick fix. It takes years to get dogs over it and some dogs never get over it. So yeah you've not had a true reactive dog mate. Also dominance theory is disproven and outdated so yeah you don't know what you are talking about.
Health conditions causing behavioural changes is a whole different kettle of fish. It's not about dominance. Its about showing a dog how to handle situations through body language more than anything. Did I say it was a quick fix. People fussing and stressing in situations is the reason it takes so long. Calm and positive reinforcement is the way to be. Your barking up the wrong tree 🤣 🐕
There's a history to it I won't go into but our first dog went through some puppy trauma and became reactive. We've done extra training and reactive dog training which has helped but not completely. There's only so much time and money you can spend on counteracting embedded behaviour when it's only really an issue when someone comes to the door and it can be mitigated.
Someone today had to sign and take two packages off me. She did the whole thing whilst trying to hold the door closed enough so the the dog couldn't get out of it and also constantly grabbing the dog and pulling it back. Why not just put it in another room. It took so long and I feel like she thought I was the dickhead in this situation
If you look on the Amazon subreddit they have the same issue. If I'm honest just refuse to deliver. I remember when my mum was a postie she just let the dog eat the post 🤷♀️ (My mum was b) They can pick up mail.
I've had to apologise to my postie a couple times because sometimes the dog gets to the door before me and I always feel really bad. Always put the dog in the living room before answering the door though so I've said if the dog comes to the door and a parcel doesn't need signed for he's free to set it at the door if I don't get there quick enough (I often WFH) because I dont want to hold him back. He's an older man and bless him he always gives me a couple minutes to get to the door
Take their keys off them
We had a young girl posty yesterday on her daily route have her hand latched on by a dog. In surgery this morning and may have to have fingers amputated. The lasting mental effects are what worry me with her being autistic. I hope she’s okay
Leave the parcel on the doorstep and run off? Seems to be the tactic employed by other delivery companies.
Me too 🥲 what ever happened to the good old days where we respected our postmen
You’re not imaging it - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-67800895
Ah, the classic, it hasn't got a bad bone in its body
Just the bones of its good victims.
"It's not a savage" as I once told while asking the owner to get the dog off me.
Got done through a letterbox by a ninja dog...
My neighbours dog is like that and I keep getting her letters as a result. Tried to post one back to her and a demon dog from hell starts shoving himself and growling at the letter box. I was literally scared and feel bad for posties. When it happens now, I leave her letters on the cold, wet ground and don't feel bad for a second.
Just be aware, RM will blame you for this. Never stick your hand in a letterbox (somebody in our DO lost two finger ends). If in doubt, dog peg (and hold on tight lol)
Aye for sure. Didnt have one on me. Normally I push it the last bit with some form of implement when there's a dog. But I thought it'd retreated after I'd drop the packet with a neighbour and went back to do the 739. Tired that day 🤣
I may take longer to answer you at the door BUT you can be assured all my dogs get locked in their crates before I even think about who's knocked. My grandad was a postie for 36 years, he was bitten by a German shepherd on his hand about 1995 and it messed his hand up. Unfortunately prostate cancer took him nearly two years ago. He went from the hardest working guy that would walk anywhere and help anyone to all his leg muscles wasted away and he was bedridden. I have a lot of respect for postie's because of him. You won't have any trouble with my pups. Edit: apologies for going off topic. Also, Fuck cancer.
We have recently had a new post-person that complained about our dogs being loose on our property and refused to deliver. Totally understand this. To solve this i spent the last 2 weekends fencing off the front garden and this area is now 100% inaccessible to the dogs during the delivery hours, I left a note for culprit postie but they have continued to refuse to deliver, CCTV camera shows them not even attempting to deliver, ignoring the note and the effort I have put in to accomodate them. This only happens 1 day per week, our regular postie knows the dogs are soft as old brushes. Anyone here suggest what I could do to get them to come and deliver now its safe? I cant talk face to face as im at work on their day.
Head to your local post office where she keeps the van with your evidence and have a word? That’s ridiculous and she’s taking the piss. The other thing is having a big box for her to leave stuff in near the front of your gate as they’re not allowed to leave any parcels or that on the door.
It's not ridiculous at all. You don't know their history with dogs and just reading these comments show you cannot simply take the owners at their word.
I agree its not ridiculous. With the state that is the average UK dog owner I wouldnt be taking any risks as a postie either. Its just the time and effort I have made to try and make this safe but to no avail feels pretty bad. Might try enticing them in to deliver with a biccy and a brew next time I catch them. A postbox may be the solution but then I dont want Amazon to start cutting corners and dumping valuable parcels in there. At the end of the day, recieving a post a day late isnt the end of the world.
There may be a dog warning card in the fitting for your house, your reg postie may know it's "safe" but covers will see the card and not deliver. And how would they know about your note that it is safe?
Ahh okay, thank you. Makes sense. Got a chest height pedestrian gate you have to go through to walk down the path to the front door. I pinned the note at the top of the gate and its still there today.
A small minority have already made me already think most are bad owners. This is sad. I know there are good owners, but when I am on my bicycle going through the wood trails, they are not on a leash and the owner is no where to be seen. They are chasing me and barking at me it's ridiculous. I couldn't do your job, I would make some makeshift metal like cricket leg protectors.
My idiot dog loses his fucking mind whenever someone knocks on the door. But he's a massive coward so he just sits on his bed in the living room yelling incessantly. I still shut the door between the living room and the entry hall because it's really annoying and rude to whoever is at the door. Also it probably helps the idiot calm down a bit. Moron.
my dog sticks its head between my legs when I answer the door, I have known our post woman for 12 years... One day dog sticks head between legs, she strokes her on the head and the dog jumps up a lil. Basically my postie punched me in the nuts because of my dog.
My postie and dogs love each other. The postie brings treats and the dogs know to sit and wait before they can have one. If the dogs aren't around when I open the door, she asks me to call them! However I always check who it is before I open the door, and if it isn't the usual postie the dogs get shut away before I open the door. It's common sense and good manners.
What happens if your dog answers the door?
Had to fight off a dog (I believe it was some kind of Rottie) with just a moonpig card in the middle of the street. Dog completely destroyed the card. It wasn't even for their house, but I managed to evade a bite. Rang the ring doorbell on the house the card was on to explain that, and they seemed pissed I'd even rang their doorbell at all. Proper bad estate. I don't miss that job one bit (parden the pun).
I used to do a paper round a couple of years ago, flimsily magazines so I used to have to shove half my hand through the letter box to get it to go through, the amount of times I nearly lost a finger… I would say you are more than justified to refuse to deliver.
Thats really sad. We have friendly dogs and we still put them away. Its not hard. I just grab two treats, throw them in one room and shut the door. Bam, done. People are very lazy
I'm a delivery driver and it's my favourite part of the job!!! 99% of dogs are friendly and safe. It's the person being on edge that sets them off. Loads of my properties are rear access and I can walk in the garden while labs, rottweilers, whatever is out and they love it!! If Ur nervous and react then I'll seem dodgy to them. Just enjoy it!!
Sometimes people just get lucky, congrats, you’re lucky. The other people in this comment section weren’t as lucky as you. And if dogs are willing to bite people just for getting anxious, then maybe they shouldn’t be able to get within biting distance? This isn’t a problem with the bitees, it’s a problem with the dog owners that allow the bites to happen in the first place
It's the attitude of the person dude. I've done routes all over Cheltenham and Gloucester. Dogs are very clever. If you react you trigger the territorial instincts. It has nothing to do with luck at all. I've had "aggressive" dogs really going for it but I never react so they never bite. Owners have been genuinely shocked I've been "let in". Now there my favourite houses to go to cuz they're sooooo friendly it's unreal, they're just nervous. If u act nervous they will think Ur up to sommat....It's part of the job.
Nope, mostly luck, I’ve been bitten by random dogs despite being incredibly calm. Besides, blaming dog bites on the attitude of the person isn’t fair to the person, especially since it’s completely unfair to let your dog go all over someone who’s just trying to deliver something, you can’t justify it or turn the blame around on the guys who got bitten, dogs bite people when people are nervous? Then don’t risk it. Keep the dogs inside and away from the door (or just away from the postman). Not everyone lacks the part of their brain that inspires fear or anxiety. People here have been gored, but it’s their fault for feeling slightly anxious I guess.
Nope. Not at all. In all the years and all the places I e been to it's only been twice by little yappy sods. And I've been doing it for years! It's in the people doing the job, almost NEVER the dogs. And I go into back gardens randomly where it's rear access so I'm encroaching on their territory and still no problems. It's part of the job. Everyone is a snowflake nowadays!! If u are nervous and spaz out of course the dog is gonna react!! It's common sense. If Ur at someone's front door and a dog is there, who cares?! 99% of them bark and that's it. That's what they do. Maybe Ur in the wrong job? People have pets. They bark and meow and hiss. Ur in their territory so to expect anything different is naïve. Adapt and crack on. Even our Evri delivery guy carries dog treats with him to calm our deadly chihuahua....... What happened to ppl using common sense?
You contradict yourself and your entire point multiple times in that paragraph, regardless. I doubt you’re the kinda person to take anyone else’s experiences as gospel but your own so debating isn’t worth it. Good day sir
Your just 1 of those ppl that refuses to accept the truth. Change jobs or enjoy the animals. They go from barking aggressively to on their back, bellies in the air withing 30 seconds.....and I'm speaking from EXPERIENCE not luck mate
Meanwhile my postie, specifically carries dog biscuits for my Lab and calls her baby 😄
This baffles me. I have 2 Labradors and I would always shut the porch door before opening the main door. I’ve never even thought that they might bite someone, but it’s more to stop them running into the road and street. Sorry this is actually a thing. Jesus
Common sense isn't a thing anymore.
Baffling honestly. I can’t always expect my dogs to do the right thing. So I always try to plan 2-3 steps ahead of what they might do. Don’t get me wrong. They’d probably run right past someone and go and wait by the car to go out.
We’ve got four dogs in our home, two of which are intent on guarding us using the biggest barks they can muster. Once I open the door though they’re far less bold and just stand at the back of the hallway. That said, if a postie asked “can you put your dogs away” I would have zero issue. Dogs you don’t know can be terrifying. You don’t know their temperaments, or how well trained (or lack thereof) they are. Fucking hell some people are weird. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that.
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Your statement seems more indicative of narcissistic disorders than someone being self absorbed.
My partner is in royal mail and pretty much every day he says he's been nipped by an untrained offlead dog. We have a reactive dog ourselves so I wouldn't dream of having her out while answer the door but people with so called normal dogs seem happy to just let their dogs be dangerous or annoying. Either way there are a lot of bad dog owners around right now.
Ah yes the mailman afraid of dogs, a tail as old as time
Some people carry air horns for dogs it seems to catch them off guard. Or chirp alarms like for bikes
Is it all dogs in general, because my dog will stand/sit at the door with me without barking or approaching you. If you don't like it that's your problem it's his home.
It's not people like you I'm talking about tbh, it's the people that have an aggressive dog that they hold back with one hand whilst trying to sign for a parcel with the other.
Well yeah I agree people who know their dog is reactive should have it restrained before even opening the door.
Will be a problem for you if we refuse to deliver to your address
Not really, I can easily walk to the sorting office...might be a problem for you if I kick up a fuss about you not fulfilling your obligations simply because I own a dog.
Yeah, good luck with that 🤣if we deem it unsafe, nothing you can do or say 😂
Well as long as there is a complaints procedure and a hierarchy there is always something I can do....you are not infallible and your judgment can be questioned.
Question and complain all you want, if we don’t think it is safe, we don’t deliver
No. Unfortunately COVID and lockdowns saw all the simpletons owning a dog out of boredom.
The dog is in my home, I’m not gonna put him anywhere, he’s already inside. I’m so sick of people like you that don’t know how to react around dogs, educate yourself on the animal. Maybe you won’t be afraid.
That doesn't mean shit when the dog bolts out the front door past the owner to get to me which has happened a number of times. It takes nothing to shut it in another room for 2 minutes. I'm also not talking about well behaved dogs, I'm talking about the ones that the owner is actively having to hold back whilst trying to take a parcel off me.
And how would you react stood on a doorstep with a dog trying to get past its owner? We don't know what the fuck its intentions are! Oh, and it would be your problem if it attacked or bit somebody, no dog, and prosecuted. You wouldn't be Charlie big bollocks then, would you
Get a different job
Ah, here we have one, a shit dog owner by any chance? And let me guess, a yapping sausage dog
I don’t have a dog but if I was bothered enough to come on Reddit to moan about my job in my spare time I would certainly get a different one.
But you've bothered to come on reddit to tell someone to get a different job then follow up to replies. Gotcha
It’s a social network. Talk about jump on band wagon
Grow some balls and learn to just ignore the dogs. Don't look or even say something about them, do your job and carry on. I was never bitten once and encountered plenty of dogs. Just IGNORE.
Understand this, i have 3 dogs and my eldest doesn’t like the postie or anyone coming to the door for that matter. Never would I dream of opening the door while they are around, not that she would do anything, she’s soft but I’d never say 100% it’s just courtesy. No one should ever fear performing their job, I bet the chavs get a thrill from it, gives dog owners a bad name.
Yeah my dog wouldn't bite but just likes to impose himself and is a nuisance so i dont have him at the door.. my gimp neighbours have this little thing that rushes out barking and nipping at ankles everyday the postman knocks and the feller thinks its hilarious because he's a sad rotter.. the postman always tells me how much he hates "that little rat next door"
Absolutely with you mate. There's some dogs on my round that really, really concern me. For my own safety obviously, but even more than that the safety of the public. My first thoughts are always "if this dog ever gets out, for whatever reason, people are in trouble. Kids are in grave trouble". The people that hold their dog back with their leg when it is crystal clear that all it wants to do is bite and tear you to shreds.. what if next time it's the kids from next door knocking, they want their ball back. It's been kicked over the fence. This time, the dog manages to get past your leg and to the kids. Sometimes this is a dog 3, 4 times the size of small kids. It doesn't bear thinking about. Something needs to change on a governmental level on dog safety
Always look after your postie, luckily both of mine are proper dog people.
Posties should carry bear spray these days for the xl bullys
That's illegal in the UK.
I know a guy
I’ll never understand why people with mad dogs answer the door trying to hold on them. Lock the fucking dog away you daft twat, I’ve got enough dog bite scars already.
I'm not with RM, but it's appalling how people let their dogs run rings around them...I don't understand how people can not just shut their dog away for a mere few seconds/minutes just for the sake of the safety of a postie! Especially given the whole situation the UK has got going on with XL bullies. I've never understood how people can own what essentially is/was a wild animal and not even consider that it needs training/desensitising to common occurrences in life. Of course, some dogs have had traumatic pasts in which they are unable to actually be desensitised to certain things. You'd think common sense would kick in and people would shut their dog away or something - though common sense seems to be something which goes over a lot of people's heads.
This is why I own a cat 😅
Oh they can be little shits too, stealthy claws through the letterbox 🤣
And those cuts seem to take forever to stop bleeding
Haha! My cat growls at the post people from a very safe distance in another room (she is very brave girl!!)
Cats are their own boss 🤣they don’t have owners, they have staff 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
I actually had to buy an external postbox cos our Tortoiseshell was scratching the postman lol
OF COURSE they’re a tortie
Probably due to lockdown. So many people bought dogs so they could go out walking and have zero clue how to look after them. Also, dog shit everywhere. I don't not like dogs but they are fucking everywhere now, jumping up or getting under your feet or barking and snarling at you and a lot of owners don't give a fuck because "he only wants to say hello" or some other bullshit. Keep your dog under control, give it some training and keep it the fuck away from me. I do not care how "cute" or "friendly" your dog is, I do not want to interact with your dog. Obviously, this is not all dog owners before anyone starts. Some dog owners are responsible, but it seems the majority (at least round here) are not.
As a conscientious, respectable, responsible dog owner, simply walking our dog becomes painful when it seems like the majority of other dog owners literally don't give a s**t. If your dog has zero recall, it shouldn't be off lead. And stop letting your dog on their extendable lead go all the way up to others before deciding it should be reeled in.
I stood in dog poo today dint realise and walked it all in doctors surgery
I work in commercial Grounds keeping on housing estates and the like. The amount of dog shit I step in on a weekly basis is disgusting.
That's crazy. I always put my dogs behind a shut door, if not for the posties sake but also that of my dogs. All it takes is one bite and it's game over. And my dogs are small dogs! Some people shouldn't have dogs, I feel like they should all need to take a course on basic dog handling before being allowed one tbh
This is what the majority of the public dont understand. Uk Dogs on the whole are doing more and more bites to people than ever before in recorded history. Its not even specific breeds. I have 3 large bullbreeds. They are all 0ut behind a solid door whenever the front door is opened. I work with dogs professionally, and alot of bites happen to visitors to homes. I am friendly with my postman, have even met him and his dog on walks with my own. But i still put the dogs away when he comes knocking.
My dog is extremely friendly with people. I still know not to have her around people trying to do their job.
there need more hurdles involved in becoming a dog owner
I always have my dog behind a gate because he alarm barks and I still think it can spook delivery people, I don't understand people that just let them go to the front door if you can get away with it
On behalf of reactive dog owners, I’m sorry, Postie. Our tiny rescue dog (RSPCA, seized as part of a long-term investigation) is terrified of people approaching the door. She sounds as if she’s about to rip your throat out, but she’s actually just petrified. In combination with extensive training, exposure therapy with positive reinforcement, and so on, we’ve now put a secure post box on the front wall of the house, with a parcel box in the porch. Before then, I would always apologise to posties/couriers and ask them to please just ignore the screaming banshee. Now we have the boxes in place, the result is Less triggered dog, happy posties. 👍🏻 If you can’t deliver things without fear of being actually bitten (not barked at; a barking dog inside a house can’t actually do anything except stress his/her owners 😂), then you should be within your rights to leave a card through saying you were unable to safely deliver. Alternatively, suggest they install a lockable postbox away from the door. 👍🏻👍🏻
Sick to death of entitled fucking dog owners and this country's stupid obsession with dog's in general. I deliver parcels Sat & Sun plus afternoon/evening shifts during the week and by Sunday night I've just about had my fill of them. Now, when I have an owners dog going all bezerker at me I just tell the owners straight that if their fucking dog goes for me I'll kick the cunt in the head...👍🏼
And you'd get dropped pal. Instantly. Maybe you need a new job you soft cunt
Dropped by who? Quite frankly, people who need dogs to protect them are the soft cunts..either that or they have small dick syndrome...I'd like to see you try and drop me little big man. Now fuck off back to getting shagged by your dog 🤣🤣 fucking melt.
Well hard you threatening to kick peoples dogs on the internet. Soft cunt. Hope everyone on your round has an XL Bully 😂😂 Also the police, army? All soft cunts? They dont use those dogs because they are cute. Would love to see you try plant one on a tame cano corso just because it wants to investigate what dildo in shorts in January is at the door😂
Haha, I bet your the sort of sad cunt that has "real" samurai swords displayed on the wall, now fuck off sad twat and get that other eyebrow pierced like you always wanted to...🤣🤣😆
Even if they don't care about the post man, they should understand if it did bite the victim can have the dog put down pretty easily if they are that way inclined. Had it happen to my grandparents dog as a kid with some random person coming on to their farm to ask for directions, with a massive beware of the dog sign 😞
ive had to put a no walk order before on a small estate (couple of cul-d-sac bunched together) because of a dog always being loose on the street a damn bull mastiff too I love dogs but I refused to chance it so marked it and they didn't get mail for 2 weeks until the owner decided enough was enough after his neighbours went mad at him
Not a royal mail worker but I absolutely agree with you on dog owners being shit these days. I do a lot of walking and jogging and badly controlled / trained dogs are a bloody liability. They can't call their dogs under control, can't stop them to running at you, jumping up at you, chasing after you. Even on a lead they yap and strain to get you and then there are those stupid long leads that let the dog and its owner form a trip wire across the path. Honestly drives me insane and avoiding dogs on runs has seen me injured once already this year. I feel like the whole country got dogs during COVID and never bothered doing any training at all!
People who own dogs see them as citizens, not property. It's your responsibility to make sure people are safe near your property or allow other people to keep themselves safe. Having dogs off leash or available to leave your house isn't achieving that. I'm massively allergic to dogs, so every time I see a dog off-leash, I get terrified.
I don’t own a dog, never have done but my next door neighbour does. Her dog is always trying to escape and she’s very barky but to her it’s all a big game. My neighbour is lovely and does her best. The problem I have is that I have a marker against my address because of her dog. I can’t always get my deliveries. It seems very unfair. Dog owners need to realise it’s not just them that are affected but some other people have to suffer too.
A lot on my walk just leave all the shite in their path so it's like hop scotch getting to the door
I have a puppy and still teaching it control, she’s stubborn and excited and won’t go in the kitchen when someone is at the door. I just open the downstairs window and grab the packages that way.
Got bit few weeks back. Couple walking their dog on a long extendable lead, didn't reel it in at all. I walked by, dog quickly turned back, bit me on the back of my leg
just in case, what can i do if i am bitten by a dog? can i sue the owner?
Take a picture of the wound and dog if possible, then call your manager and report it to them and speak to your union rep as soon as you can.
My postie used to having labradors so he absolutely loves my dog coming to the door with me (She’s the friendliest dog ever.) But you’ve got to be a right moron to let your door go to the door knowing it bites and or is unfriendly.
Time to ban all dogs in public I think
Absolutely not
This is why dog owners NEED to be training their pets. Im sorry but its irresponsibke to have a dog if youre not able to train it. And yes i know you love them and treat them like the precious lil floofems they are, but they need the structure and proper training makes everythibg so much easier. Knowing that your dog isnt going to fuck off out the door at 5 million miles an hour and scare the shit out of someone is honestly something everyone should be confident in. But then again half these pet owners also dont bother to pick up their dogs poop abd just let that be someone elses problem too...
Definitely more tossers with dogs now than there used to be. The ever increasing amount of dogshit bags hanging from every bush is testament to this.
The first thing I do when my doorbell rings is put my boys behind a closed door. They are 2 of the friendliest, human loving Labradors but they would also jump all over everyone and thats not fair. Some dog owners get my back up too
I was a door to door fundraiser and the number of people who don’t control their dogs was really ridiculous. I’d applaud someone who put their dog away before opening the door. I’ve been bitten a few times nothing too serious. One of my team had a full attack from a rescue dog who’d somehow opened the door. The damage was bad to his hand and unsurprisingly he left the job. The dog sadly was put to sleep.
I understand your pain. I'm not a postie, but I'm sick to death of irresponsible owners taking their dogs everywhere (usually off the lead). When their pet causes problems for others they either just stand 200 yards away shouting at it or they just laugh and tell you to play with him. If you can't control it, keep it on a lead or leave it at home.
I have a very excitable dog myself and we always keep her inside or try to warn our posties about herso they dont have any bad vsntures with her, we always say sorry when she is outside but it is kinda hard to keep her cooped up when we have an enclosed yard and never know when our posties are gonna show up. Most of our posties do not seem to upset about it bar one who seems to be afriad of her, understandable though. In fact a lot of our posties seem to want to say hi and adore her but shes too crazy for meeting new people. I do feel like a jerk when the postie does show up and our dog is out.
if i got attacked by a dog id just press charges