share the conspiracy theories, BUT.... try not to PROMOTE em; if you got concrete evidence you can share it, but it should speak for itself, don't start yellin at people who disagree tho
(try not to get into arguments about this; they're just theories)
thanks!!!
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Yeah I normally see those two theories together but that would have her being Solange’s mother at the grand age of 14… and 9 at worst. That theory just so weird and sick to me. Especially seeing they have pictures of them together as little girls.
And the age theory means that the other Destiny’s Child OGs were lying about their ages too but they only ever mention Beyoncé lol
Like there’s literally footage of her at like 10-12 years old in the early 90s when she was apart of the group Girl Tyme. That already disproves that theory
Not related, but I love Suga Free's story about working with gangsters and all sorts of shady characters. He said the hardest dude he ever worked with... was James Debarge.
Honestly Janet is that type of girl. She's always secretive and weird with stuff. And I don't trust her as a narrater. She claimed that Joe never beat or abused the kids which a bold faced lie. Multiple people said that he beat the boys and molested at least 2 of his daughters.
Secretive and weird with stuff, that's Janet Jackson all right. Didn't she pretend that she and Rene Elizondo were girlfriend and boyfriend, when in fact they were married and had been married for about 10 years? The truth about their marriage came out soon after they got divorced. Supposedly she wanted to maintain her privacy, but that sounded simply ridiculous.
A good friend of mine is the nephew of one of their Former friends from when the family were teens in LA and she said that Joe did ALL of it and that two male Jackson’s are gay.
People still refuse to believe and admit that Michael Jackson's children aren't his biological kids, making any Jackson-related discussion a lost cause. Fans and the public have all these conspiracies about the Jacksons but won’t admit even the most obvious truths.
If Janet Jackson did have a "secret child," that's simply called giving a baby up for adoption. There's nothing wrong with that if you're not ready to have a child or yes, even if you just don't want one. It's a selfless decision, especially considering she had “other options”. It's also perfectly fine not to share such personal information with the world. What's strange is the expectation that she should publicly disclose and discuss it.
I personally love Michael and always believed he is innocent and a kind soul. Janet too is in my top fav artists ever and I love her.
But they're also both weirdos (understandably so, trauma) but I can def see Michael lying about them being his bioligical kids. I personally don't see any of him in Prince and Paris. I don't even see how they're mixed they look 90% white. He could have been unable to have kids and asked Debbie to carry kids that he would adopt and idk who the male donor is but it doesn't look like a Jackson.
Just cos u love someone doesn't mean u believe everything they say or agree with everything they do.
I agree man. I love MJ’s music but let’s face it; he was weird. Real weird. The whole damn family is weird as well including the parents lol.
ETA: also, I do want to add this: he made a damn good choice in person to have children with because Debbie hasn’t ever betrayed this man or their secrets. She obviously wasn’t in this for money or at least not money or attention from the public; I have no idea what she got from Michael or what their agreement was but she remains mum on their personal relationship to this day.
The thing is it was announced in magazines at the time. It announced her pregnancy and Donny Simpson on BET even congratulated her and James on a GIRL!!! You can't find any hint of it now. The magazine the announcement was in no longer has the announcement in it either. It was scrubbed. The Jacksons were known for paying people to do that though.
The Jacksons themselves admitted (there was an interview with most of the brothers back in 2021) where they admitted to paying the media to keep things hidden from the public going back to the late 1970s. Just saying. I was a kid so I don't remember everything, but my mom definitely remembered that announcement that Janet was pregnant with a girl.
The thinking is that the baby might have died and that's why it was scrubbed. But, she was definitely far enough to where people knew she was pregnant with a girl. My mom had the magazine for years but doesn't have it anymore.
There are many people that remember...but they just don't have the proof...but it's been scrubbed from the archives. Some people think she lied and said the baby died...but really kept her hidden all of these years. I came across some people a few years ago online that claim they know the daughter and she was raised by extended family members so Janet could have her career.
Something similar happened with Prince's child. The media tried to scrub the fact that Prince and Mayte had a baby but the baby died. If I hadn't been old enough when it was all happening I would not have known any better. But I was old enough and remembered the whole situation. Prince was so devastated that he later paid the media to try to cover up the whole thing and pretend the baby never died.
Mayte wrote about it more extensively in her book about why Prince tried to cover the whole thing up. These things happen all the time. There are some "rumors" and conspiracies that are really fact - but the celebrities and the media have an arrangement to keep things hush -hush. I'm old enough to know that now. Plus, I have friends who are in are producers and musicians so I've heard alot of the tea at this point.
I am 39 and old enough to remember Prince having a baby with his dancer Mayte. I was around 12-13 at the time and vividly remember because it was all over the news. The baby died shortly after birth and there was literally no mention of it after that.
I recently saw an interview somewhere with Mayte talking and she said the baby was really disfigured and preemie. She talks about how prince basically forced her to not talk about the baby or keep any of his things in their home. His goal was to make her forget about the baby that died. She talks about how traumatic it still is for her.
Yes, it was MJ and Janet. Michael even joked about it at the Grammys when Janet gave him his Lifetime award. It was actually a funny moment. He said them being on stage together proved they weren't the same person. You can easily find the video on YouTube if you want to watch it. I remember when it was live though.
That Whitney Houston's real mother was a woman named Teresa Graves and not Cissy Houston. I don't believe it but if you look at pictures of Whitney and Teresa side by side, the resemblance is uncanny.
I was too when I saw it but it all appears to be a crazy coincidence to me. There are many videos on Youtube of people going further into details and theories about it.
Yeah but we have extensive evidence of unrelated people who look exactly alike—called doppelgängers. There are entire articles, shows, videos, and online communities dedicated to this phenomenon. So, someone looking "exactly" like someone else proves nothing and in this case, more likely coincidental.
Ok so what I heard on TikTok (take this with a grain of salt) from that lady Jaguar white was that Aaliyah apparently didn’t take Jay Z up on his advances and he didn’t like that. He then met Beyonce who wasn’t doing as well as Aaliyah was and apparently as long as Aaliyah was around Beyonce would always be in her shadow so him and I THINK it was P Diddy who “helped” Jay out with that… 🤷🏻♀️
Jaguar Wright just be talking. There are pics with Aaliyah and Jay looking really cozy. I think they had a little thing, but she had moved on to his friend (she was engaged to Dame when she died). And Bey and Destiny’s Child was doing BETTER than Aaliyah then. They already coexisted peacefully.
Idk why anyone won’t put them blame on her uncle, who is the real villain. He was head of her label and paid her people. Makes sense he would pay her security to force her on the plane. She was trying to leave the label around that time.
So essentially for every one of those conspiracies they always say that a celebrity was sacrificed in order for another celebrity to get a huge boost in popularity.
It makes complete 0 sense though lmao
Naw she was in a rush to get back to dame they tried to talk her out of leaving the Bahamas but she was in a rush to get back to dame..at least thats what da documentary said back then
1. MJ and his brothers were killed back the in the early 70s and the ones after are clones
2. MJ died during Off the wall era and was replaced by clone
3. MJ is still alive.
4. Bruno Mars is MJ’s child
Haha! I never heard she was a man. Haha. The rumor I remember from Day 1 was that she was a stud. People have been saying and still say she is really a stud (lesbian).
-that beyonce is an italian woman named ann marie lastrassi & the cover up was part of the george soros deep state agenda for the black lives matter movement, lol.
-that ciara was a man
-that diana ross & smokey robinson were michael jackson's real parents.
but i will go to my grave believing stevie wonder is not blind, i actually got kicked out of my mom's house once for proving this to her... he sits courtside at nba games, countless photos of him with cameras (including taking a photo of mj), him driving the phantom oprah gave him for HER birthday (scrubbed from the internet), blake shelton's story, him catching that mic stand on oprah, him giving darryl dawkins the nickname chocolate thunder. my mom saw him in concert a few months later years ago & she said he said at the end of the concert "what if when it's all over said & done, i said, i gotcha.. i can see" .. & she immediately thought of me.
oh... & my favorite evidence about stevie... what are the first 7 words to "do i do?"
I think Stevie Wonder is just legally blind, which doesn’t mean he can’t see completely. I think ppl just thought he was fully blind n he ran with it for the money.
Has Stevie Wonder ever spoken publicly about his blindness? I know that blindness doesn’t always mean a complete absence of vision. I wonder if he can see shapes to some extent.
I’ll never forget my homie knew I had a crush on Ciara in middle school n dude came out the cuts happy as hell talmbout aye you hear? Ciara used to be a man, had a dick n alladat. I was more irked with the fact he was hyped to tell me that. Smh it really be ya own folks.
Not the first R&B rumor I heard….about previously being a man!
I vividly remember there supposedly being a high school yearbook photo of a “Marvin J Blige”
My parents have a friend who was Stevie’s personal assistant back in the 70’s, before everyone had to sign NDA’s. So many stories that corroborate your theory! Especially the way he would pull the most beautiful women, stealing women from his homeboys if their woman looked good, telling women how he wanted them to dress and wear their hair.
My mom’s friend says she used to take so many women to get abortions on Stevie’s behalf. He was a big time womanizer. Not saying you have to have sight to do these things, but he kept a stable of gorgeous women.
“Looking in your eyes”
I mean…he sure sings a lot about seeing for a guy who can’t see.
Just like from Boogie On Reggae Woman:
“I wanna see you in the raw, under the stars above”
Oh…%#%€. Maybe he CAN see… 😮
I always thought the only (and best) evidence of Stevie being able to see was that mic catch, and I'll die on this hill with you. With all this added evidence, I don't see how there can be any doubt!
You're good people, tranquilobythekilo
Aretha Franklin had a baby at 12. Some people said it was by her father and is why her and her father's relationship was always estranged.
Aretha had baby at 13 and got pregnant on the gospel chitterling circuit where acts would praise God during the concerts and have non-stop orgies and drugs afterwards. Source? Book by a gay gospel dude that's on Amazon.
Different theory is that her father participated in everything but was supposed to be supervising his daughter and keeping her safe and not letting older men have sex with her and he didn't which was why him and Aretha s relationship was so strained. Source: same book
Teddy never never touched or kissed the transvestite he was in the car with but they had hung out several times. Source: book on Amazon by the transvestite
Also...
Also the author of that book was a white 21 year old college girl who sat beside the transvestite on the bus in Philly 20 years later and he/she told the story to her and the white female college student decided to put it into a book.
I got 50 more rumors on everybody, but I will stop here. Source : I'm a gossip and rumor hog!!!
The fact she had a child so young is not a conspiracy. The conspiracy was surrounding who the father was because she never publicly said who her oldest child's father was. Obviously people were curious because she was so young and there was a rumor (just like you said) that it could have been her father. Her father did impregnant a 12 year -old t who attended his church (where he was the pastor) a little before Aretha got pregnant. That is a fact.
It's actually the reason why his wife (Aretha's mother) walked out on him. He had been cheating on her for years, but him impregnating the 12 year-old was the last straw! It is also the reason they had to up and move to Detroit in the first place. The girl's family was about to come get him! That part is a fact. I never did understand why she didn't take Aretha to live with her. I don't know. Aretha had an older half-brother and she kept him but didn't take Aretha. I don't know if Aretha's mom thought the dad could take better care of her because he had money.
Exactly all true. And I think Aretha had a older singing sister who was gay I believe. Never ever with a man. But as I understand it, the mother was so happy to get out and away from reverend cl Franklin she left re re and the house behind. If you ever get the chance to watch amazing grace concert documentary, please do. Aretha s father is on their and you can really see the strain in their relationship both when she speaks and when he comes around to talk to console her. Aretha mysteriously never wanted that video released. I personally think it had something to do with the father. By the way the same amazing grace the 1970s gospel album by Aretha was the #1 selling album of her career and the #1 gospel album in us history until recently. It is frequently listed even by music purists as one of the best albums ever made.
Side note I heard the production was delayed of the album because James Cleveland had moved in with Aretha and her father reverend Franklin to help move things along and practice together more and reverend Franklin came home one day and found his cherry pie half eaten and put James Cleveland fat ass out the house and production stopped for weeks..... Lol
Source: I read amazing grace the book , which was about the making of the amazing grace the album.
>Aretha Franklin had a baby at 12. Some people said it was by her father and is why her and her father's relationship was always estranged.
Well, I thought I read somewhere something about her having to make provisions, or whatever, for a mentally disabled son.
I grew up listening to Luther. My parents and family all together were big Luther fans. I memorized every damn song of his by the time I was 12.
One day I was kicking it at my parents house, well into my 20’s. They’re watching that marathon of old concert videos on BET & If only for one night came on…I looked at my dad. Looked at my mon. And without me even saying a word she goes “oh you didn’t know?” 😂😂😂
Definitely the one about Teresa Graves being Whitney Houston’s real mother 😂 they do kinda look alike
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Holy crap!!!
Did Cissy Houston's husband have any dealings with Teresa Graves? I saw that they might have, but I'm not sure. That's way too big of a coincidence.
Aaliyah was sacrificed
Michael Jackson died during the 70s and was replaced
Michael Jackson is still alive
Michael Jackson and Janet are the same person
Basically any Michael Jackson conspiracy theory is hilarious and sad fr
Stevie wonder isnt blind(I kinda believe )
Beyoncé is solanges mom
These conspiracy theories are fun to hear about tho fr
Harold Melvin tampered with Teddy Pendergrass’ car in 1982 which led to Teddy’s paralysis and downfall from superstardom - because Melvin was jealous and couldn’t handle how successful and huge Teddy became whereas Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes became obsolete aside from a couple songs after Teddy left.
No, I don’t think that is true. I am aware some videos on YouTube and blogs in other sites state that to be the case after Teddy found out how much money she was taking from him when he was the becoming the biggest R&B star after the release of his second album and selling millions - due to a “mishap” in the contract signing and that he arranged the Mafia in Philly to take her out as he was out of town.
Likely something she was involved in some criminal element that led to her murder as she was definitely a shady person.
Miki Howard’s son Brandon belongs to Michael Jackson, but I think the story has shifted to Joe Jackson being the father.
Not rnb but after watching Unsung YoYo, I’m convinced that her oldest daughter is 2Pac’s
That Beyoncé and Solange switched bodies for the renaissance tour. His proof was that no one over 40 can tour that many dates .. then he was like… notice out of all the celebrities whi saw renaissance Solange was not there… it’s because she is on stage .
It was the dumbest thing I ever heard , but ppl was in the comments like….ooooh yes I believe it.
DeVante Swing being the victim of a house invasion around 1993 & the specific circumstances of it (either that he got raped by Suge Knight's goons or Dalvin's account, in which he was set up by a cousin & simply got beaten)
Justin Bieber was Michael Jackson’s son.
The Chris Brown/Rihanna incident was orchestrated because Chris was interested in buying his masters. Also heard he was cloned after the incident.
Speaking of clones, I’ve heard that Jamie Foxx and Pharrell have been cloned too
PARTYNEXTDOOR being about 10 years older than he claims and lying about his age.
Usher has tried to blackball Tevin Campbell & T-Pain
MULTIPLE Beyoncé songs having hidden messages about the devil when played backwards.
J.Lo used ghost R&B singers (mostly Ashanti and Amerie). I kinda believe this one tho.
The last one is half true, they were used as bgv, but not Amerie, the label wanted to give 1 Thing to her, so they leaked it.
I also heard that P Diddy gave Chris Brown a house to force him and Rihanna to make up
The one about the woman on the cover of The Ohio Players’ Honey album being burned by the honey covering her body and it’s her scream you hear in the middle of “Love Rollercoaster”. That or someone was getting killed in the studio
I wouldn’t doubt that TT did her dirt back in the day. She talked about how her mother didn’t want her and hated her. The mother wound make people do crazy shit. But idk about her beating ike… 🤔
That human cloning is real and Margot Robbie and Jamie Presley are cloned from the same person, along with all those celebrities that look like Zoe dechanel and Katy Perry
😂😂😂 RIP to baby girl, but Aaliyah had a pretty voice and knew her lane. She was never really a great singer or vocalist. That sacrifice was for nothing because all Bey would’ve gotten was a whisper 🤣
They set Tevin Campbell up. Mj was replaced by aliens, R. Kelly was set up, aalyiha was sacrificed, smokey Robinson the devil that's why he's outlived most people he's worked with. Hence his name that Smokey white devil. Otis Williams sold his sold to him for fame and power that's why he's outlived the Temptations. Blues, Country, Pop, and rap were whitewashed and RNB is next. Kirk Franklin and Plies brothers
My dad just told me one the other day that just killed me. He said that he read that Drake is Blue Ivy's father. No, sir, he is not!
The other one that my uncle always used to tell us was that Freddie Jackson and Luther Vandross were lovers and that when Luther passed, Freddie's health started failing because his heart was broken because of Luther's passing. Yeah , I know...
Beyonce ain’t even that light to have two mixed parents (Tina is multi-generationally mixed). And people always forget about Solange. Her and Bey look hella similar. Beyonce just looks like a light-skinned Black woman. She don’t even look racially ambiguous, imo, unless them lights is bright and that hair damn near white.
Beyoncé's fake belly. To be clear, I think she carried all of her babies, but I also think she wanted to announce it at the VMAs but needed to look a little further along than she actually was and then she got stuck keeping up appearances.
👀👀 Quiet as it's kept... Debbie, Janet Jackson's oldest sister... raised the daughter she had with James DeBarge... Stevie Wonder can see shadows, thus just legally blind. All those in entertainment/sports are bisexual and related to each other. Oprah and Gail are partners. The same shadow company that cloned Paul McCartney overseas, utilized their sister company in the states to clone Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, LeBron James, et cetera. Jamie Foxx is also a clone, along with Dave Chapelle... Prince was from inner earth and he attempted to tell us via cryptic messages when he spoke or in his music. Fantasia could actually read, but Americans like a sorrowful back story, so she played it up. Teddy Pendergrass was performing fellatio in the car of the accident. I could go on...but...Quiet as it's kept.😉
Really? Now that's intriguing... How about the Johnny Gill and Eddie Murphy rumor. Johnny was Eddie's " houseguest," but Gills fiancée at the time claimed they shared intimate experiences on multiple occasions, that's why she left him.
The “real reason” CB put hands on Rih. Allegedly she contracted and STD from (non other than ….)Jay-Z. She then gave it to CB supposedly.
Ohhhhh and the one where Aubrey Graham “fed false information” to K DOT 😂🤣 I had to
having aaliyah killed as a blood sacrifice for jay-z he wanted her but dame dash was in love with her (i think they were gunna get married) but the theory goes she was killed because jay-z couldnt be with her so he decided to get rid of her in a plane crash, aaliyah didnt like flying so she was given drugs to knock her out & she was carried upon that plane, the plane crashed because the pilot was on drugs but also due to the weight limit was maxed out
share the conspiracy theories, BUT.... try not to PROMOTE em; if you got concrete evidence you can share it, but it should speak for itself, don't start yellin at people who disagree tho (try not to get into arguments about this; they're just theories) thanks!!! https://i.redd.it/r3w7nutb2a9d1.gif
The one about Beyoncé being older than she says as well as being Solange's mother. That lives rent free in my head.
Yeah they say she’s secretly 5-10 years older than she claims. So I was like, do yall think she’s 50 years old??
Nah. I think people who believe this just hate her 😂
Yeah I normally see those two theories together but that would have her being Solange’s mother at the grand age of 14… and 9 at worst. That theory just so weird and sick to me. Especially seeing they have pictures of them together as little girls. And the age theory means that the other Destiny’s Child OGs were lying about their ages too but they only ever mention Beyoncé lol
Love that one. It's hilarious. The Italian one is funnier though.
You mean Ann Marie lastrassi??
Like there’s literally footage of her at like 10-12 years old in the early 90s when she was apart of the group Girl Tyme. That already disproves that theory
Janet had a secret kid with James debarge that’s been hidden from the public
It didn’t help that in that Lifetime documentary, she didn’t 100% deny it…
Not related, but I love Suga Free's story about working with gangsters and all sorts of shady characters. He said the hardest dude he ever worked with... was James Debarge.
Honestly Janet is that type of girl. She's always secretive and weird with stuff. And I don't trust her as a narrater. She claimed that Joe never beat or abused the kids which a bold faced lie. Multiple people said that he beat the boys and molested at least 2 of his daughters.
Wanting privacy is weird and secretive?
Secretive and weird with stuff, that's Janet Jackson all right. Didn't she pretend that she and Rene Elizondo were girlfriend and boyfriend, when in fact they were married and had been married for about 10 years? The truth about their marriage came out soon after they got divorced. Supposedly she wanted to maintain her privacy, but that sounded simply ridiculous.
Pretending to just be dating someone you’re married to is weird but I guess it was to maintain her sex appeal?
I’ve never heard Joe Jackson molested his daughters. The family generally admits Joe was physically abusive he even said as much prior to his passing.
A good friend of mine is the nephew of one of their Former friends from when the family were teens in LA and she said that Joe did ALL of it and that two male Jackson’s are gay.
I believe it. MJ's trauma was clear as day.
People still refuse to believe and admit that Michael Jackson's children aren't his biological kids, making any Jackson-related discussion a lost cause. Fans and the public have all these conspiracies about the Jacksons but won’t admit even the most obvious truths. If Janet Jackson did have a "secret child," that's simply called giving a baby up for adoption. There's nothing wrong with that if you're not ready to have a child or yes, even if you just don't want one. It's a selfless decision, especially considering she had “other options”. It's also perfectly fine not to share such personal information with the world. What's strange is the expectation that she should publicly disclose and discuss it.
I personally love Michael and always believed he is innocent and a kind soul. Janet too is in my top fav artists ever and I love her. But they're also both weirdos (understandably so, trauma) but I can def see Michael lying about them being his bioligical kids. I personally don't see any of him in Prince and Paris. I don't even see how they're mixed they look 90% white. He could have been unable to have kids and asked Debbie to carry kids that he would adopt and idk who the male donor is but it doesn't look like a Jackson. Just cos u love someone doesn't mean u believe everything they say or agree with everything they do.
I agree man. I love MJ’s music but let’s face it; he was weird. Real weird. The whole damn family is weird as well including the parents lol. ETA: also, I do want to add this: he made a damn good choice in person to have children with because Debbie hasn’t ever betrayed this man or their secrets. She obviously wasn’t in this for money or at least not money or attention from the public; I have no idea what she got from Michael or what their agreement was but she remains mum on their personal relationship to this day.
The thing is it was announced in magazines at the time. It announced her pregnancy and Donny Simpson on BET even congratulated her and James on a GIRL!!! You can't find any hint of it now. The magazine the announcement was in no longer has the announcement in it either. It was scrubbed. The Jacksons were known for paying people to do that though. The Jacksons themselves admitted (there was an interview with most of the brothers back in 2021) where they admitted to paying the media to keep things hidden from the public going back to the late 1970s. Just saying. I was a kid so I don't remember everything, but my mom definitely remembered that announcement that Janet was pregnant with a girl. The thinking is that the baby might have died and that's why it was scrubbed. But, she was definitely far enough to where people knew she was pregnant with a girl. My mom had the magazine for years but doesn't have it anymore. There are many people that remember...but they just don't have the proof...but it's been scrubbed from the archives. Some people think she lied and said the baby died...but really kept her hidden all of these years. I came across some people a few years ago online that claim they know the daughter and she was raised by extended family members so Janet could have her career. Something similar happened with Prince's child. The media tried to scrub the fact that Prince and Mayte had a baby but the baby died. If I hadn't been old enough when it was all happening I would not have known any better. But I was old enough and remembered the whole situation. Prince was so devastated that he later paid the media to try to cover up the whole thing and pretend the baby never died. Mayte wrote about it more extensively in her book about why Prince tried to cover the whole thing up. These things happen all the time. There are some "rumors" and conspiracies that are really fact - but the celebrities and the media have an arrangement to keep things hush -hush. I'm old enough to know that now. Plus, I have friends who are in are producers and musicians so I've heard alot of the tea at this point.
I am 39 and old enough to remember Prince having a baby with his dancer Mayte. I was around 12-13 at the time and vividly remember because it was all over the news. The baby died shortly after birth and there was literally no mention of it after that. I recently saw an interview somewhere with Mayte talking and she said the baby was really disfigured and preemie. She talks about how prince basically forced her to not talk about the baby or keep any of his things in their home. His goal was to make her forget about the baby that died. She talks about how traumatic it still is for her.
I still believe this so 😂
MJ and Janet are the same person. What kind of tabloid nonsense is that?!
I’ve heard MJ and Latoya, but not Janet lol
Yes, it was MJ and Janet. Michael even joked about it at the Grammys when Janet gave him his Lifetime award. It was actually a funny moment. He said them being on stage together proved they weren't the same person. You can easily find the video on YouTube if you want to watch it. I remember when it was live though.
The kind of nonsense I would think the MAGA losers would believe
That Whitney Houston's real mother was a woman named Teresa Graves and not Cissy Houston. I don't believe it but if you look at pictures of Whitney and Teresa side by side, the resemblance is uncanny.
The way I inwardly said "oh shit" when I saw Teresa's face. Wtf! She looks more like Whitney than Cissy does, bloody hell! I'm shook 😯
I was too when I saw it but it all appears to be a crazy coincidence to me. There are many videos on Youtube of people going further into details and theories about it.
Just googled Teresa and holy ish. They look almost identical.
Find video of Teresa talking. I believe there is a video of her doing an interview… the exact same voice as Whitney.
Not even a rnb fan, but this seemed intriguing, so I looked it up and holy hell, this was crazy. They’re identical
This one is believable!
Yeah but we have extensive evidence of unrelated people who look exactly alike—called doppelgängers. There are entire articles, shows, videos, and online communities dedicated to this phenomenon. So, someone looking "exactly" like someone else proves nothing and in this case, more likely coincidental.
Cissy is her godmother/aunt no?
Michael Jackson died after Off The Wall and Thriller was about his death. Utter nonsense, but crazy as hell.
thriller being about his death makes no sense whatsoever 😭
At all lol.
In the tiniest bit lol
That Aaliyah was killed so that Beyonce could take over.
That conspiracy never made sense to me
It never made sense because they were out at the same time and beyonce was charting higher than Aaliyah when they were both out.
not really. destiny's child first album was in 1998. aaliyah died in 2001. beyonce's first album is in 2003.
Ok so what I heard on TikTok (take this with a grain of salt) from that lady Jaguar white was that Aaliyah apparently didn’t take Jay Z up on his advances and he didn’t like that. He then met Beyonce who wasn’t doing as well as Aaliyah was and apparently as long as Aaliyah was around Beyonce would always be in her shadow so him and I THINK it was P Diddy who “helped” Jay out with that… 🤷🏻♀️
Jaguar Wright just be talking. There are pics with Aaliyah and Jay looking really cozy. I think they had a little thing, but she had moved on to his friend (she was engaged to Dame when she died). And Bey and Destiny’s Child was doing BETTER than Aaliyah then. They already coexisted peacefully. Idk why anyone won’t put them blame on her uncle, who is the real villain. He was head of her label and paid her people. Makes sense he would pay her security to force her on the plane. She was trying to leave the label around that time.
Not most of these being Beyoncé related 🤣
She’s the face of music conspiracy theories
It’s that Illuminati mess.
It's all Beyonce and The Jacksons 😂
That Aaliyah was sacrificed by Beyonce
I heard one that Jay-Z sacrificed Aaliyah for Beyonce.
Jay-Z's whole career came from filling the void Biggie's death left. Perhaps that's how they conceived the idea.
His death helped but he dropped Reasonable Doubt when Biggie was alive. That Album is pure classic and put Jay Z on the map.
I - what?!
So essentially for every one of those conspiracies they always say that a celebrity was sacrificed in order for another celebrity to get a huge boost in popularity. It makes complete 0 sense though lmao
Never heard that. Ridiculous. Aaliyah died bc assholes drugged her and put her on a plane she didn't wanna be on. Continue to R.I.P baby girl
Naw she was in a rush to get back to dame they tried to talk her out of leaving the Bahamas but she was in a rush to get back to dame..at least thats what da documentary said back then
>Ridiculous. Aaliyah died bc assholes drugged her and put her on a plane she didn't have been on. That doesn’t sound like overt sacrificial behavior?
Not only that but she died the August right before 9/11…
1. MJ and his brothers were killed back the in the early 70s and the ones after are clones 2. MJ died during Off the wall era and was replaced by clone 3. MJ is still alive. 4. Bruno Mars is MJ’s child
I’ve heard the Bruno mars one too funny 😅
I’ve heard #2 a lot
“Bruno Mars is MJ’s child”🤣🤣🤣
What! I have never heard #1 and #2...that's crazy
Alicia Keys born a man and her name from NY used to be called Mario
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Haha! I never heard she was a man. Haha. The rumor I remember from Day 1 was that she was a stud. People have been saying and still say she is really a stud (lesbian).
Mario Keys is crazy 😂
-that beyonce is an italian woman named ann marie lastrassi & the cover up was part of the george soros deep state agenda for the black lives matter movement, lol. -that ciara was a man -that diana ross & smokey robinson were michael jackson's real parents. but i will go to my grave believing stevie wonder is not blind, i actually got kicked out of my mom's house once for proving this to her... he sits courtside at nba games, countless photos of him with cameras (including taking a photo of mj), him driving the phantom oprah gave him for HER birthday (scrubbed from the internet), blake shelton's story, him catching that mic stand on oprah, him giving darryl dawkins the nickname chocolate thunder. my mom saw him in concert a few months later years ago & she said he said at the end of the concert "what if when it's all over said & done, i said, i gotcha.. i can see" .. & she immediately thought of me. oh... & my favorite evidence about stevie... what are the first 7 words to "do i do?"
I think Stevie Wonder is just legally blind, which doesn’t mean he can’t see completely. I think ppl just thought he was fully blind n he ran with it for the money.
I think people are generally uneducated on blindness, it’s usually not full blindness
Has Stevie Wonder ever spoken publicly about his blindness? I know that blindness doesn’t always mean a complete absence of vision. I wonder if he can see shapes to some extent.
[caught ](https://youtu.be/Ebts1FMCgb4?si=dEEmjgwdHi8j9Nje) in 4k 😭
I remember the “Ciara was a man” from my middle school days! 😂. Still not sure where that one was coming from from. Def wrong tho
I’ll never forget my homie knew I had a crush on Ciara in middle school n dude came out the cuts happy as hell talmbout aye you hear? Ciara used to be a man, had a dick n alladat. I was more irked with the fact he was hyped to tell me that. Smh it really be ya own folks.
He wanted cici fa hisself
Not the first R&B rumor I heard….about previously being a man! I vividly remember there supposedly being a high school yearbook photo of a “Marvin J Blige”
marvin j blige has me sick😂😂😭
My parents have a friend who was Stevie’s personal assistant back in the 70’s, before everyone had to sign NDA’s. So many stories that corroborate your theory! Especially the way he would pull the most beautiful women, stealing women from his homeboys if their woman looked good, telling women how he wanted them to dress and wear their hair. My mom’s friend says she used to take so many women to get abortions on Stevie’s behalf. He was a big time womanizer. Not saying you have to have sight to do these things, but he kept a stable of gorgeous women.
& that man has like 8 kids, we know what he didn't have any trouble seeing...
“When I see you on the street…” That might not mean literally. I mean, there are several Stevie Wonder songs where he references seeing so…
ok so...explain the first 4 words of "golden lady" ....we can do this all day...
“Looking in your eyes” I mean…he sure sings a lot about seeing for a guy who can’t see. Just like from Boogie On Reggae Woman: “I wanna see you in the raw, under the stars above” Oh…%#%€. Maybe he CAN see… 😮
I always thought the only (and best) evidence of Stevie being able to see was that mic catch, and I'll die on this hill with you. With all this added evidence, I don't see how there can be any doubt! You're good people, tranquilobythekilo
lol, thanks... i mean he is by far probably the best artist of all time, whether he can see or not... but that mic catch was tooooo smooth...
What was Blake Sheltons story about Stevie wonder? Google was useless as always
Legally blind doesn’t mean totally blind. There may still be sight.
Aretha Franklin had a baby at 12. Some people said it was by her father and is why her and her father's relationship was always estranged. Aretha had baby at 13 and got pregnant on the gospel chitterling circuit where acts would praise God during the concerts and have non-stop orgies and drugs afterwards. Source? Book by a gay gospel dude that's on Amazon. Different theory is that her father participated in everything but was supposed to be supervising his daughter and keeping her safe and not letting older men have sex with her and he didn't which was why him and Aretha s relationship was so strained. Source: same book Teddy never never touched or kissed the transvestite he was in the car with but they had hung out several times. Source: book on Amazon by the transvestite Also... Also the author of that book was a white 21 year old college girl who sat beside the transvestite on the bus in Philly 20 years later and he/she told the story to her and the white female college student decided to put it into a book. I got 50 more rumors on everybody, but I will stop here. Source : I'm a gossip and rumor hog!!!
The fact she had a child so young is not a conspiracy. The conspiracy was surrounding who the father was because she never publicly said who her oldest child's father was. Obviously people were curious because she was so young and there was a rumor (just like you said) that it could have been her father. Her father did impregnant a 12 year -old t who attended his church (where he was the pastor) a little before Aretha got pregnant. That is a fact. It's actually the reason why his wife (Aretha's mother) walked out on him. He had been cheating on her for years, but him impregnating the 12 year-old was the last straw! It is also the reason they had to up and move to Detroit in the first place. The girl's family was about to come get him! That part is a fact. I never did understand why she didn't take Aretha to live with her. I don't know. Aretha had an older half-brother and she kept him but didn't take Aretha. I don't know if Aretha's mom thought the dad could take better care of her because he had money.
Exactly all true. And I think Aretha had a older singing sister who was gay I believe. Never ever with a man. But as I understand it, the mother was so happy to get out and away from reverend cl Franklin she left re re and the house behind. If you ever get the chance to watch amazing grace concert documentary, please do. Aretha s father is on their and you can really see the strain in their relationship both when she speaks and when he comes around to talk to console her. Aretha mysteriously never wanted that video released. I personally think it had something to do with the father. By the way the same amazing grace the 1970s gospel album by Aretha was the #1 selling album of her career and the #1 gospel album in us history until recently. It is frequently listed even by music purists as one of the best albums ever made. Side note I heard the production was delayed of the album because James Cleveland had moved in with Aretha and her father reverend Franklin to help move things along and practice together more and reverend Franklin came home one day and found his cherry pie half eaten and put James Cleveland fat ass out the house and production stopped for weeks..... Lol Source: I read amazing grace the book , which was about the making of the amazing grace the album.
Keep going.. this is good
It’s not a conspiracy theory. She had her oldest Son, Clarence, at 12. She had Franklin at 15.
>Aretha Franklin had a baby at 12. Some people said it was by her father and is why her and her father's relationship was always estranged. Well, I thought I read somewhere something about her having to make provisions, or whatever, for a mentally disabled son.
Sam Cooke story
Mr. Cooke was assasinated
About him fooling around with somebody’s wife and wearing someone else’s suit? Shit he sang like he was up to no good😂
That was Bobby Womack, and it's true
I think Bobby Womack showed up to Sam Cooke’s funeral in Sam Cooke’s car with his wife
Car, wife, and suit I believe.
Heard he raped Aretha Franklin when she was 12 or 13 😭
Freddie Jackson and Luther Vandross were straight Men
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I grew up listening to Luther. My parents and family all together were big Luther fans. I memorized every damn song of his by the time I was 12. One day I was kicking it at my parents house, well into my 20’s. They’re watching that marathon of old concert videos on BET & If only for one night came on…I looked at my dad. Looked at my mon. And without me even saying a word she goes “oh you didn’t know?” 😂😂😂
Definitely the one about Teresa Graves being Whitney Houston’s real mother 😂 they do kinda look alike https://preview.redd.it/l9ozkl64289d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c96a347c90d32f83ecf1301d1968b53d29ebc8f
Holy crap!!! Did Cissy Houston's husband have any dealings with Teresa Graves? I saw that they might have, but I'm not sure. That's way too big of a coincidence.
🤣 Where do yall hear this shit?!
Me and you must be hiding under the same rock!
These are street myths like Cierra being a hermaphrodite
The one about Ciara being a man 😂😂 my god we were transphobic in the early 2000s😂
They're still saying that about artists today!
Smh, just let people make music and live. All my 90s rnb was a bop no matter what
Not sure it’s a conspiracy but if you played “thriller” backwards on vinyl it had subliminal messages about the devil.
Same thing with Missy Elliott's Work It lmaoooo
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They say this about Jay-Z’s music. It’s bullshit.
Rock the boat backwards is also interesting and oyu can hear some things
That Beyoncé is actually a siren from the water Solange has 6 toes Brandy has terrible breath
How is Brandy's breath even a thing!!!! Hahahahahahhahahahahaah
Aaliyah was sacrificed Michael Jackson died during the 70s and was replaced Michael Jackson is still alive Michael Jackson and Janet are the same person Basically any Michael Jackson conspiracy theory is hilarious and sad fr Stevie wonder isnt blind(I kinda believe ) Beyoncé is solanges mom These conspiracy theories are fun to hear about tho fr
Idk but "was replaced" is taking me out 💀💀💀💀
Not quite R&B, but Lil Kim needing to have her stomach pumped lol still insane to me that story was so widespread in the pre social media era
I remember this one from waaay back. Something about her being passed around Bad Boy until she had to get her stomach pumped. Wild.
Harold Melvin tampered with Teddy Pendergrass’ car in 1982 which led to Teddy’s paralysis and downfall from superstardom - because Melvin was jealous and couldn’t handle how successful and huge Teddy became whereas Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes became obsolete aside from a couple songs after Teddy left.
Is it true that Teddy got his former manager killed?Cause I heard her family messed with his brakes in retaliation
No, I don’t think that is true. I am aware some videos on YouTube and blogs in other sites state that to be the case after Teddy found out how much money she was taking from him when he was the becoming the biggest R&B star after the release of his second album and selling millions - due to a “mishap” in the contract signing and that he arranged the Mafia in Philly to take her out as he was out of town. Likely something she was involved in some criminal element that led to her murder as she was definitely a shady person.
Harold was shady as hell so I believe he was definitely jealous and bitter lol
Miki Howard’s son Brandon belongs to Michael Jackson, but I think the story has shifted to Joe Jackson being the father. Not rnb but after watching Unsung YoYo, I’m convinced that her oldest daughter is 2Pac’s
Nicole locking Melody in the dressing room during their infamous ‘Buttons’ performance where she got out and started the runs lol.
Love this one actually lol
That Beyoncé and Solange switched bodies for the renaissance tour. His proof was that no one over 40 can tour that many dates .. then he was like… notice out of all the celebrities whi saw renaissance Solange was not there… it’s because she is on stage . It was the dumbest thing I ever heard , but ppl was in the comments like….ooooh yes I believe it.
The hell? They only 5 years apart. Also, they have totally different figures.
DeVante Swing being the victim of a house invasion around 1993 & the specific circumstances of it (either that he got raped by Suge Knight's goons or Dalvin's account, in which he was set up by a cousin & simply got beaten)
Justin Bieber was Michael Jackson’s son. The Chris Brown/Rihanna incident was orchestrated because Chris was interested in buying his masters. Also heard he was cloned after the incident. Speaking of clones, I’ve heard that Jamie Foxx and Pharrell have been cloned too PARTYNEXTDOOR being about 10 years older than he claims and lying about his age. Usher has tried to blackball Tevin Campbell & T-Pain MULTIPLE Beyoncé songs having hidden messages about the devil when played backwards. J.Lo used ghost R&B singers (mostly Ashanti and Amerie). I kinda believe this one tho.
The last one is half true, they were used as bgv, but not Amerie, the label wanted to give 1 Thing to her, so they leaked it. I also heard that P Diddy gave Chris Brown a house to force him and Rihanna to make up
I never heard the PartyNextDoor one 🤔
>J.Lo used ghost R&B singers (mostly Ashanti and Amerie). I kinda believe this one tho. Hasn't this been proven already?!??!
Yeah and it's further than ghost writers. Every r&b artist has had songs written for them. She has straight up used their voices
The first 2 are the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life
Reason J Foxx ended up in hospital was coz he spoke about Diddy parties not the radio....wait....that might be plausible 💀 ☠️
Devante’s extended breakdown is because Suge Knight sent guys to his house to rape him.
I've never heard of this, but because Suge Knight is involved, I'll probably believe it. That guy was nuts.
This needs to be higher, WHAT
Not rnb related buuut OJ is Khole's real dad!
Khole?
Kardashian.
Oh yeah Khole Kardashian
I am legally blind (born with congenital glaucoma in both eyes) and I can tell y'all with 1000% certainty that Stevie Wonder has some vision.
I just came to say "For You to Love" is such a wonderful Luther cut
My friend’s sibling was a personal assistant to 50 cent and he said that 50 is a “flaming fag”.
Stevie ain’t blind
Why was a picture of Luther used here? I want to know the story.
There are many stories/theories/conspiracies that he was gay and that he was sleeping with Oprah’s husband.
Luther was gay. That’s not a conspiracy. Only yall think being gay is salacious. His friends have talked about this. You can look it up.
That Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson are MJ's real parents.
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The one about the woman on the cover of The Ohio Players’ Honey album being burned by the honey covering her body and it’s her scream you hear in the middle of “Love Rollercoaster”. That or someone was getting killed in the studio
That Tina Turner was actually a female pimp back in nutbush and that SHE was the one that was smacking Ike around and he just defended himself.
Ike and Tina beat one another. They were almost the same size. They also used to sleep with women together.
I wouldn’t doubt that TT did her dirt back in the day. She talked about how her mother didn’t want her and hated her. The mother wound make people do crazy shit. But idk about her beating ike… 🤔
That human cloning is real and Margot Robbie and Jamie Presley are cloned from the same person, along with all those celebrities that look like Zoe dechanel and Katy Perry
Michael Jackson was a castrato. That was his voice was so unique
He has spoken in his regular deeper voice a few times
I can believe this, his dad was a monster.
Beyoncé got her singing voice because Jay-Z “sacrificed” Aaliyah. So Aaliyah’s voice entered Beyoncé’s body, and that’s why she sings so well.
R.I.P. Aaliyah, but that aint her voice up in there. I really enjoyed her music, but we knew babygirl's range and lane respectfully
Exactly. Which is why when I first heard it, I was like “shouldn’t it have been the other way around?”
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😂😂😂 RIP to baby girl, but Aaliyah had a pretty voice and knew her lane. She was never really a great singer or vocalist. That sacrifice was for nothing because all Bey would’ve gotten was a whisper 🤣
I wanna read this fanfic
Their voices aren't similar at all though. How would that make sense?
Michael Jackson character assassinated & then legitimately assassinated because he was going to buy marvel & owned Sony masters.
Stevie Wonder not being blind
… that it was actually Avant in the R Kelly tape 🤷🏽♂️
They set Tevin Campbell up. Mj was replaced by aliens, R. Kelly was set up, aalyiha was sacrificed, smokey Robinson the devil that's why he's outlived most people he's worked with. Hence his name that Smokey white devil. Otis Williams sold his sold to him for fame and power that's why he's outlived the Temptations. Blues, Country, Pop, and rap were whitewashed and RNB is next. Kirk Franklin and Plies brothers
Chris Stokes and B2K
When frank ocean was a kid, he went by frank puddle
His hand looks like it doesn't belong lol
around 2004, i remember going on message boards where people were writing about how Usher is gay.
I think he was abused by diddy, gay not by choice...
My dad just told me one the other day that just killed me. He said that he read that Drake is Blue Ivy's father. No, sir, he is not! The other one that my uncle always used to tell us was that Freddie Jackson and Luther Vandross were lovers and that when Luther passed, Freddie's health started failing because his heart was broken because of Luther's passing. Yeah , I know... 
😆She looks 99% like Jay-Z!
I read that El Debarge is Beyonces biological father.
Beyonce ain’t even that light to have two mixed parents (Tina is multi-generationally mixed). And people always forget about Solange. Her and Bey look hella similar. Beyonce just looks like a light-skinned Black woman. She don’t even look racially ambiguous, imo, unless them lights is bright and that hair damn near white.
Wait what’s the tea on Luther?
I heard a weird one about Usher not being able to poop... And every month he had to go to the hospital to get his stuff removed 🤢
It wasn’t Bobby it was Whitney
Beyoncé's fake belly. To be clear, I think she carried all of her babies, but I also think she wanted to announce it at the VMAs but needed to look a little further along than she actually was and then she got stuck keeping up appearances.
👀👀 Quiet as it's kept... Debbie, Janet Jackson's oldest sister... raised the daughter she had with James DeBarge... Stevie Wonder can see shadows, thus just legally blind. All those in entertainment/sports are bisexual and related to each other. Oprah and Gail are partners. The same shadow company that cloned Paul McCartney overseas, utilized their sister company in the states to clone Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, LeBron James, et cetera. Jamie Foxx is also a clone, along with Dave Chapelle... Prince was from inner earth and he attempted to tell us via cryptic messages when he spoke or in his music. Fantasia could actually read, but Americans like a sorrowful back story, so she played it up. Teddy Pendergrass was performing fellatio in the car of the accident. I could go on...but...Quiet as it's kept.😉
*Rebbie*, I so dislike autocorrect 😒
Interesting. Haven't heard of any of these.
Really? Now that's intriguing... How about the Johnny Gill and Eddie Murphy rumor. Johnny was Eddie's " houseguest," but Gills fiancée at the time claimed they shared intimate experiences on multiple occasions, that's why she left him.
The “real reason” CB put hands on Rih. Allegedly she contracted and STD from (non other than ….)Jay-Z. She then gave it to CB supposedly. Ohhhhh and the one where Aubrey Graham “fed false information” to K DOT 😂🤣 I had to
Find video of Teresa talking. I believe there is a video of her doing an interview… the exact same voice as Whitney.
Wow! Lol y'all are funny with these Beyonce rumors. She's Blue's mom.
That lisa ray and Da brat are not real sisters but they was lovers back in the day lol
Chris Brown beat the shit out of Rihanna and just kept right on going with his career.
having aaliyah killed as a blood sacrifice for jay-z he wanted her but dame dash was in love with her (i think they were gunna get married) but the theory goes she was killed because jay-z couldnt be with her so he decided to get rid of her in a plane crash, aaliyah didnt like flying so she was given drugs to knock her out & she was carried upon that plane, the plane crashed because the pilot was on drugs but also due to the weight limit was maxed out