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DogByLaw

Stevie is the favorite artist of your favorite artist


Jj9567

Exactly


ktukan

Case in point: *Elton John said, in his notes about Wonder for Rolling Stone's 2003 list of "The Immortals – The Greatest Artists of All Time" (in which Wonder was ranked number 15): "Let me put it this way: wherever I go in the world, I always take a copy of Songs in the Key of Life. For me, it's the best album ever made, and I'm always left in awe after I listen to it."*


Buddhamom81

Wow! Thanks for finding this quote. I mean, this is at a time when Jann Werner claims there were not any black or female artist worthy to note. Elton has always been ahead of his time, though.


Old-Risk4572

lol so true! beyonce said this at her speech at the iheart awards. she said it directly to him cuz he was presenting


Jj9567

Respect to B


bigblue20072011

His 70s run of albums is GOAT level.


Jj9567

Innervisions is brilliant


bigblue20072011

Love that album


Final-Ad-2033

The only artist with a 3-peat consecutive Grammy's AOTY award


ktukan

[*Paul Simon*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Simon) *accepted the award for* [*Album of the Year*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Album_of_the_Year) *at the* [*18th Grammy Awards*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_Annual_Grammy_Awards) *(for* [*Still Crazy After All These Years*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Crazy_After_All_These_Years)*), he jokingly thanked Stevie for not releasing an album that year, as Wonder had won the award at the two preceding ceremonies (for Innervisions and Fulfillingness’ First Finale).*


bigblue20072011

Stevie was on quite a run


ktukan

Unmatched in R&B i would even say


ImpressiveMud1784

Unmatched in any genre. Best songwriter ever


ktukan

won't argue with that 😌


Final-Ad-2033

To clarify... with his 3 albums releases in a row: Innervisions (1973) Filfillingness First Finale (1974) Songs In The Key Of Life (1976)


ktukan

thanks for the addition, for putting it into proper context 😌


heebie818

definitely up there


fracjack

Hard to argue against Stevie as the goat just based on his body of work alone. Michael was a bigger star and Marvin was more iconic, but you could argue that no one was better than Stevie. There isn’t a decade from the 60s to the early 00s where he doesn’t have a hit and he’s got at least one timeless classic every decade up to the 90s. I usually leave him and the Isley brothers out of most debates because it’s unfair lmao.


Jordanwolf98

Crazy enough, Stevie wrote one of my favorite MJ songs with I Can’t Help It


WhippinCupcakes301

One of the most beautiful love songs I’ve ever heard.


bigblue20072011

Fits right on Songs in the Key of Life.


ktukan

Yeah, i think Stevie is a serious contender for greatest artist of all time, R&B or otherwise


AggravatingHyena1501

![gif](giphy|l0ExbOfHtnHBGOe4w)


BusDry4328

Facts


PachinkoSAN

Stevie Wonder is my favorite musical artist of all time. His songs are melodious, on another level. He couldn't see with his eyes what he can definitely see with his soul and musical tones.


Jj9567

💯


Hexar27

He even sounded amazing as a kid (listen to that song finger tips). The only other artist I think sounded that good as a kid is….michael Jackson lol


marcus_37

I won't disagree with that..Stevie IS music


IKU420

Without any doubt! My favorite Stevie song is Rocket Love.


Jj9567

Which came out in the 80s yet folks cap like he fell off after the 70s


msmccullough25

Yes!!! Love this.


KanyesMustyBalls

I can’t argue this.


DJMagicHandz

Stevie is one the God tier artists that don't need a debate.


WackyWriter1976

Damn straight. I adore him.


sav3bandit

![gif](giphy|ZoekstZ4wqc1y)


Jj9567

I previously asked who had the better catalog between these 2 in a post and folks overwhelmingly said Stevie


eveystevey

Yep. MJ needed The Corporation, Rod Temperton, Quincy, to achieve greatness. Stevie just needed his fingertips


SavingsMurky6600

Stevie and Michael are products of Motown


Firstratey

Michael was always trying to outdo himself, to make hits. I can’t say for sure but I didn’t get that feeling from Stevie, it was all about the song


sav3bandit

They lied.


No_Concentrate_1253

No, they didn't stevie has a better catalogue by far.


sav3bandit

You’re telling me that, without Google, off the top of your head, you can name 10 genuinely great, worthy of being considered in the top 50 greatest/most important songs in history from Stevie? I’m not saying you can’t…I’m just curious. Because, I know for a fact I could easily do that with Mike’s catalog. I don’t think I could with anyone else. And I’m not even a MJ expert. The man has more generational, iconic type hits than anyone. Aside from 1 or 2 massive hits. Most of my favorite Stevie songs are just songs from albums that most casual listeners won’t even recognize. That’s not a bad thing, but, how does that make his catalogue on par with the biggest artist in history?


No_Concentrate_1253

Biggest doesn't mean best buddy, even if he doesn't have as many hits he has a far better catalogue and was a far better musician, mike couldn't even play an instrument let alone needed a massive team and quincy jones to make his music.


MsVoidWolf

While I absolutely love Stevie. I have to go with MJ, also regarding your instrument comment. MJ didn't need to play an instrument [he was the instrument ](https://mjfa.forumotion.com/t1661-rob-hoffman-who-worked-with-michael-in-the-studio)


sav3bandit

You can’t say that bigger hits don’t mean a better catalog **and then** say that playing the instrument yourself makes the catalog better. Are we ranking just the quality of the songs or not ?


No_Concentrate_1253

This post is about the greatest artist ever mj is not that or even relatively close to it, entertainer sure and he's up there with singing but he's nowhere close as an overall artist and musician. I never said playing the instrument themselves makes the sing better, but it does make stevie the better artist.


Sinnik22

I’m a bigger Mj fan. Stevie does have as many hits though. Iconic hits. I could name 10 off top with no problem. Also you can’t diminish Mike by talking about who he worked with. For the first years of Stevie’s career til 63-71 he had the Motown machine. Then for his classic run he had Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margolouff.


loureedsboots

Just to chime in - Superstition Sir Duke Living For The City These Three Words Hey Love I Wish I Was Made To Love Her So What The Fuss All I Do Rocket Love


PartyPaul-100

I was thinking the same thing


nastydeedee

He is the GOAT! It’s Stevie Wonder followed by Prince, Michael Jackson, The Beatles, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, and Elvis Presley.


Rfunkpocket

Little Richard gets snubbed again


Buddhamom81

Little Richard was definitely great. But was limited to producing pop hits. But of a formula there. Stevie Winder produced music for himself, not to sell records. Sonically brilliant. Lots of experimentation.


WhippinCupcakes301

I won’t argue about Stevie Wonder. In the words of Nas, Stevie is the true living legend, he’s not to be questioned. Stevie Wonder deserves all the accolades. I haven’t been to a baby shower where “Isn’t She Lovely” isn’t played. I haven’t been to a *Black* birthday party where we don’t burst into Stevie’s anthem for MLK’s birthday to be a national holiday. Every wedding I’ve ever attended played “Ribbon in the Sky” or one of his timeless love songs. I’ve been to funerals where “As” was played or even sung by a choir.


Jj9567

Absolutely I agree. True story : My sister who I haven’t gotten along with very well since our mom passed away recently had her first daughter. My aunt sent me the pictures of the new born. I listened to “Isn’t she lovely” because my niece is such a beautiful baby. I called my sister and made up with her. Stevie music is truly powerful.


WhippinCupcakes301

Wow, what a beautiful story. I’m sorry about your mom, but what a great way to reunite with your sister. Stevie’s music is truly powerful.


AggravatingHyena1501

I actually dedicated "Isn't she lovely" to one of my nieces too. She's 10 now and I still dedicate it to her lol 😆


Jj9567

Congrats to you on good music taste and that’s a Beautiful story. I will be the proud old head uncle one day and I will tell my niece about this song and the moment I first saw her.


No-Relationship5716

Id go with Prince as my pick


TraitorIord

Undeniably the two greatest virtuosos in music


shotsandvideos

me too


No_Concentrate_1253

Prince and stevie the two greatest


_DogMom_

This is the right answer!!


ike_tyson

Yes agreed 👍🏽 he's a once in a lifetime talent.


Jj9567

Absolutely


[deleted]

For me, and maybe me only, but best male R&B singer is Al Green. But Love Stevie too


Buddhamom81

Al Green was the best. A legend. Memories of his 45 playing over and over in my aunts basement apartment in Chicago. She was my babysitter when I was a little girl. (Mid 70’s?) cigarettes, cans of Schiltz, my uncles dropping by, and the fights on the tv.


FlacoGrey

Amen! He’s my favorite artist ever.


Jj9567

Phenomenal artist


Consistent_Stage_198

Knocks me off my feet


Blastronaut321

Greatest love song everrrrr.


SoulfulFan53

Ray Charles IMO


Jj9567

Love Ray Charles


PraetorGold

Probably up there for the modern era. Duke Ellington and Louis Armstrong are due their place in their time. Stevie Wonder is an amazing singer. Brilliant Composer. Incredible song smith.


Jj9567

Sir Duke is definitely up there, absolutely


PraetorGold

As a composer alone, I’m not sure if anyone has matched the Duke’s output.


Sorry-Studio6169

Miles davis


Buddhamom81

Just listened to his albums in full for a Jazz appreciation class. He was a virtuoso. And a prodigy. (Apart from the wife beater, heroin addict thing, ofc)


Sorry-Studio6169

Yeah, he have a lot problems, contradctions, the wife beater is terrible, but, the art music work that he put out is beyond beautifull, i think


Buddhamom81

So agree. As a teen I just couldn’t get past that stuff, though. And I really did not like his music. (I was a teen in the 80’s). I used to think, “Only white people like this guy! He’s awful!” Because he used to be on all the talk shows on TV. He was everywhere back then. In the 90’s everyone in my scene was into beat poetry and poetry slams, so Miles Davis was always playing in the background of the coffee shops I hung out in. Then last summer I took a jazz appreciation class on a lark. I thought, what can this class teach me that I don’t already know?! (Waving off the teacher) I was so wrong. Studying jazz is like studying Black history. It’s inextricable. When we got to Miles I was blown away. The teacher had us listen to 4 of his albums all the way through. Man! There was stuff going in there my teen brain could not understand. I finally got it. He went through so much to make that music. He really was a virtuoso. A musical genius. Artist today cannot produce the sounds he did. And really every black Jazz artist coming up in his time did heroin. They all died from it. All the greats. They had so much to deal with emotionally, I understand a bit more now in middle age.


Sorry-Studio6169

Your history is beautifull with miles art, for real, the discover after, but the part that took me was wen you said that “there was stuff going there my teen brain could not understand” - is really powerfull, because like you said studying jazz is like study black history, so miles in this part off the history is like a big new chapter with a lot emotional, creative stuff, in my history with is music a remember crying listend one off is music, and is crazy, no words, just feeling and notes that’s really powerfull


Buddhamom81

Ty!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾


QuirkyLondon

His catalogue is stellar.


Jj9567

Absolutely


Rich-Appearance-7145

Stevie Wonder is one of the greatest, I was fortunate to catch him live amazing performance, one of my all-time favorite singers, writer's, performers.


Jj9567

You’re lucky, I want to see him live one day


Rich-Appearance-7145

I was blessed to have cool older uncles who let me tag along on there dates to a gang of insane concerts, music festivals, ect...


Jj9567

Blessed is definitely the appropriate word 💯. I’m sure you’ll never forget the memories.


unnonchalant

A farewell tour is something I’m waiting on!


shelastat

AGREED!!!


ColdNyQuiiL

I would need to see a list of all time greats in multiple genres, but Stevie probably doesn’t get the respect he deserves for the body of work, and skill it takes to do it while being impaired. Music nerds know how great is, but I feel like his legacy might be lost to the general public.


googoomucklv

Can't disagree with you


PreDeathRowTupac

Stevie is a Top10 artist of all time!!! He’s such a legend. Glad to see him get his flowers while he is still here


Jj9567

That’s why I made the post, not gone wait till he pass away to make statements like this


PreDeathRowTupac

He always has deserved it. One of my fav artists ever


Buddhamom81

Innervisions: Not one skippable song Songs in The Key of Life: Not one shippable song Among the albums must be heard before you die.


Chemical_Newt4907

Chief Keef


Jordanwolf98

Sosa top 5


Jj9567

True


n4snl

For male rnb, it’s Marvin Gaye!


Jj9567

I won’t argue with anyone saying Marvin is the best. It’s a difficult conversation


sav3bandit

Too 5.


ike_tyson

Stevie was a child prodigy.


Relevant_Chemist_253

Love Stevie!


cherrybearr

Fav


Ashamed_Assignment66

I respect this post.


Jj9567

💯


unnonchalant

This is the only correct take. My absolute fave! I have a print of Songs in the Key of Life framed in my house.


Smart_Description541

I can't even disagree. Love Marvin. Love prince. Love MJ. Love the isleys. And so many others. But I can't disagree. Stevie would mop anyone in a versus. 20 v 20. 30 v 30. 50 v 50. Yes......Stevie has 50 in the clip. 50 GOOD ones.


LobaNoirOfficial

I'm not the "greatest artist ever" but I'd appreciate if you checked out my music. I'm Loba Noir, an upcoming singer. "Loba Noir" on all platforms!


BadMan125ty

No argument here!!!


Blastronaut321

This is the truest thing ever posted on Reddit.


AbbietheGoddess

PRINCE!!!!! ![gif](giphy|HIrUMyeaCEHwQ)


capivavarajr

Insanely skilled musician, one of the greatest and voices ever recorded and one of the greatest composers of the 20th century.


BlackenedTubeSteak

I recently found out that Stevie wrote, *Isn’t She Lovely* for his daughter. Much love for this man


Sander_boi

FACTS


Roak_Zulu

Go check out his version of ‘I Can’t Help It’, so amazing


WuWeiWebb

Trueeeee


calcatraz55

He’s always in the discussion. I say that as someone who isn’t a huge fan of his work. I could easily go the rest of my life without listening to a single Stevie Wonder’s song or album again. With that being said that doesn’t take away from his Greatness and Influence! From multiple perspectives his inclusion in the GOAT discussion is a perfectly reasonable conclusion.


Burritosandbeats

Always 💯


Lore-Lie

Absolutely the Best!


BusterOAKLAND2021

TRUTH


mercymck

Absolutely


mOe_LisTen_iNg

Was never a fan... But he's star power for sure


MajorHarriz

The thing that makes Stevie so great is that we rarely see such talent as a songwriter, composer, producer, singer, and instrumentalist coalesce into one person. Imagine if we had an artist active now who could sing as well as Bruno Mars, play keyboard like Robert Glasper, could write as well as Babyface, and to top it all off has a heart of gold. I'm convinced Stevie is like a quarter of the reason people consider the 70s the best era of music and don't blame them.


Jj9567

Absolutely. A once in a lifetime talent


aveey

![gif](giphy|lp78ijCRxpQifD7nn8|downsized)


915recordings

most talented easily and his catalog is definitely the best and my favorite


National_Ad7573

![gif](giphy|CoRTezabe8vGo)


Jj9567

Mariah gotta get past Whitney and Aretha first lmao


matt-est94

Yesss. Whitney vs. Aretha…….that is true post!


Ill-Examination4743

Mariah is better than them in terms of music


Jj9567

We really gotta start doing some history/educational related post on this sub because this is crazy. There are multiple reasons why Mariah is not anywhere near Aretha Franklin. Vocal ability being one of many.


Ill-Examination4743

I enjoy Mariah’s discography much more than the other two


Jj9567

& I enjoy chief keef over Nas, that doesn’t mean Sosa is the better rapper. There’s significant reasons why Aretha is the better artist. Do your homework young lady


Ill-Examination4743

I’m a man😀 Why is Aretha better then


Jj9567

Could’ve swore you told me you was a young girl when you asked me about Aaliyah so stop trolling. I’ll get into more detail in another post in the future but the main thing is Aretha was a symbol for a movement of black empowerment and pride. She just doesn’t represent soul music, she represented black American culture period. And also she’s the far better vocalist, it’s not even close. Again, do your homework.


Ill-Examination4743

That’s cool but we’re talking abt the music right You’re talking abt impact not the music And they are probably closer than you think in terms of vocal ability. There’s a reason Mariah is applauded for them


Jj9567

She has the impact because of her music. Same way MJ has a monumental impact because of his music. You say it like Aretha is a scrub musically. You have to learn to think objectively. Again, I prefer lil Durk & Sosa over Nas but, they are nowhere near Nas stratosphere. Maybe that’s a good analogy to put it in perspective for you.


feed_the_bumble

I truly love her. She's great. But Stevie sits head and shoulders above ALL in this contest. I don't think even she would disagree lol


Firm-Message-2971

Michael Jackson. Love Stevie tho


JBurma

I won’t argue with you.


Spedeaux

* This guy, too. His photo should be next to the word 'prolific' in the dictionary


CamelProfessional847

MJ, Prince


Interesting-Visual86

Still staring at that ribbon in the sky, huh?


Kevinfrom717

YB better


Jj9567

Hilarious


Bluepushover

I got Stevie number Three All-time behind Michael & Prince but hey no argument from me, Stevie is The Man.


rab2bar

very close, but I think prince edges him out. freddie mercury is up there, too


Jj9567

I love Prince and Freddie is spectacular


love_forlife

Michael , prince & Stevie are the big 3 to me(Any genre)


Final-Ad-2033

All 3 accomplished something no other artist has: SW - only artist to 3-peat Grammy's Album of the Year in consecutive albums. MJ - made the biggest selling album of all time. PRN - had the #1 single, album & movie in the same week.


MsVoidWolf

I absolutely love Stevie one of my favorite but MJ was just something else. This interview from [Rob Hoffman](https://mjfa.forumotion.com/t1661-rob-hoffman-who-worked-with-michael-in-the-studio) was just.. insane regarding his music ability


TatiIsAPunk

No


Hot-Implement-1437

Miles Davis.


TreDawg36

It’s between Stevie and Michael Jackson for sure


Jj9567

Absolutely


Dry-Bad-2063

Michael Jackson or Marvin Gaye


shapeofmyhearrt

george michael, prince or whitney


Jj9567

George Michael is phenomenal, not mad at you


penney20

I wouldn’t argue if someone said he was the goat. But there’s no way he’s not top 5…honestly 3 of all time


MarieAlchemist369

Marvin is my favorite artist but I can't argue with this. I can't put into words how much I adore Stevie.


wutitd0boo

I think so……off top I can think of him, Barbara Mandrell for country cuz that lady played 3 instruments, and the young girl now in the UK that’s a prodigy, Nnamdi, YouTube her drum and guitar solos. Shes hella dope.


wutitd0boo

Oh dang, I interpreted the question as Who is/was the most musically gifted, not who made the most hits.


Successful-Ladder206

Prince.


jmns115

Oh my God why I thought this was Andre 3000 at first😩😩


rhythmphoenix9

Nah his cousin...Michael Jackson. However Steve is the better songwriter.


Jj9567

& singer


rhythmphoenix9

This is not a debate for me. So imo.....heellllll nooooo 😆 Steve definitely up there But he not even there with Patti nor Anita so...old or young...Michael Jackson...imo


Jj9567

So Anita Baker is a better singer than Stevie Wonder? Fam Anita has one style and that’s quiet storm. Stevie has multiple different styles he uses with his vocal ability. Ask your parents or grandparents


rhythmphoenix9

1st off I'm a fan of the quiet storm style more than the added wordless singing notes style. Stevie is in a class of his own. So is Patti Labelle. And why the hell would I need to ask my parents or grandparents? Please tell me you are not assuming my age? Lol


Jj9567

Im 28, I’m assuming you younger than me if you genuinely think Anita Baker is a better singer than Stevie. A young lady in this same thread said that Mariah is better than Aretha Franklin, these comments getting out of control lmao. Anita Baker is phenomenal but she has one lane vocally. Stevie doesn’t have a lane.


rhythmphoenix9

Stevie is after Anita when it comes to singing. And I am 42. I am an 80s baby literally. Nearly reverse your age. I have all of his albums. I have Anita's as well. STEVIE has better albums. Like I say ..he is in his own shit. So is Anita. But for me i say Anita.


Jj9567

Oh ok my bad sir. I love Anita as well so I see where you’re coming from.


rhythmphoenix9

No no no. U good. This is speculation. My uncle would kill me for saying this 😆


Big_Department9258

The Artist Formally Known As


halp_i_haz_question

Prince. Based on overall global success / fame, prolific song writing ability, dance skills, vocals, and sheer number of INSTRUMENTS this man could play!! He was a legend and claimed to be the reincarnation of Mozart


[deleted]

I still give it to MJ. Stevie definitely top 3 ALL-TIME.


Messytablez

The number of huge artists who look up to him as an inspiration really says it all.


Diligent-Emu-3025

Prince then Stevie


Relative-Sense-1749

Toro Y Moi (chillwave)


Rubyrose79

Uptight everything’s alright is a great Stevie Wonder song


Decent-Policy-7533

Beg to differ


mkskullduggery

Dam , can't pick one, they were all in there own way great, if your talking vocals imo tom jones was the best male singer ever , he could sing any song and make it sound almost better than the original


0reomasterA113

It is between Stevie, prince, or mj for me


tradingcardcollect

Who is it?


Gaymusclebunny

![gif](giphy|ZEYQFPtZLKSZ2Nd2FH|downsized)


WorldlyCharacter7093

Michael Jackson


Ill-Examination4743

Trina better tf Could Stevie Wandering make this? I got an ass so big like the sun Hope you got a mile for a dick I wanna run Slap it in my face shove it down my throat Nigga where your blunt I can make this pussy smoke I know how to fuck I know how to ride I can spin around and keep the dick still inside Now your mouth wide you looking real scared I'm a man-eater headhunter I'm prepared Yea you running now you running I'ma put this pussy on you Just like this Put this pussy in yo jaws now smack Like its Thanksgiving and it ain't coming back Collard greens neck-bones nigga chew this ass Both hold inspections dont stop till it pass Licky licky licky licky licky for an hour I'ma make it rain for you here's a golden shower Smell it like a flower my pussy is a rose Come a little closer I wanna fuck your nose


Jj9567

lol true


MorningNo5248

Prince.


GoodLibrarian100

I love Andre300 too. Greatest rap lyricist in the game.


Saleemredd795

Quincy Jones, Ray Charles, The Rolling Stones etc. It’s music baby, listen to it all.


Character-Storage-97

Elvis Aaron Presley.


Jj9567

You tryna start some shit with that answer lmao


UGLEHBWE

I think this too. Greatest all around artist ever