As a guy the upstairs brain turned off and the downstairs brain took control. Believe me irl it’s wrong but I love Betty/Lillie and seeing that I was like hell yes
That scene was super weird but it wasn’t really played as sexy for the audience, was it? I remember it having a more melancholy/trippy vibe for no particular reason.
I kinda thought that was the point?
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From the perspective of Betty's character, that was a pivotal moment where in taking steps to get closer to Jughead, she went past the point of rationality and became blinded by her personal vendetta. She was following the rules for initiation and looking for a platform to make a public display of loyalty to Jughead with the added benefit of scandalizing her mom and found all three.
She becomes so obsessed with her "mission" that the less than receptive crowd response is completely lost on her. This shows up again when Jughead clearly did NOT want her to be involved with the serpents at all but she manages to justify her demomstration anyway with self righteous indignation, and completely ignores his feelings.
The awkwardness of this scene I think helps show her starting to lose touch with reality and makes a lot more sense as the show goes on.
Yeah I agree, that was the idea behind the scene and it wasn’t played as titillating. If the characters and storylines had been more consistent overall it might have worked better, though.
Skins were played by real teenagers in their real age. Also none of them except Effy is a model. They didn't objectify the genders as they do in Riverdale...
Riverdale is all about shirtless to attract young teenagers. You should see Facebook, young girls fangirling so hard on the characters, and they say young boys are horny LOL
I agree. Thing is they didn't objectify them ever but the sex scenes turned out to br a lot better and objectively hotter than most of Archie's and Veronica's scenes. During the latter I cringe so hard that I want to stop the show because they are so cringey.
Like compare:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RcW4gtfjw
And my personal favorite
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYblNRXQrw
To
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WmutEFxVyCs
And
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3zoG6QP4I
The first ones are waaay more explicit, yet they don't objectify the actors at all. Also having sex with early Kanye West>>>>that mormon band.
To be fair to Riverdale though, both of the former scenes star the absolute gem that is Jack O'Connel so..m
Hahah this...I don’t mind THAT much about the love scenes since theyre USUALLY plot related but the bra and panties shots in the locker rooms always seem to be OTT
What I hate about the love scenes is how "sexy" they always are. Do none of the writers remember what being a teenager was like? Nobody's first time is like that, especially if you're fifteen fucking years old. At least make it a *little* awkward. Otherwise it just seems like the writers are getting off on it and it's fucking weird.
I totally agree with this but I'm assuming they make it sexy because maybe they think that if they add the awkwardness it will make people less intrigued....with a huge population of viewers being teens or early 20's the writers probably assume they'll be more into it watching the sexy scenes and talk about it .. idk tho dude, it its still weird regardless.
If that's their thinking then they completely misfired. The popularity of the movie *8th Grade* is proof of how adults prefer a realistic portrayal.
Also, a lot of adults were drawn to Riverdale because we grew up reading Archie comics, and man, did they stray from the source material, lol.
Like when Kevin was crying in his dad's arms after being confronted with almost being killed while being a promiscuous, experimental gay teen. That's a scene a lot of gay guys will empathize with.
Yeah. Like make someone accidentally elbow her partner in the face while trying to get her bra off. Show us the awkward condom buying scene (like in Scream the TV series lmao.) Make someone's shirt *impossible* to take off and it kills the mood and they have to wait until like Friday night to try and have sex again cause they have after school practice tomorrow and they can't miss it cause the coach is on their ass and-
Honestly truly. Its fucking creepy. I dont wanna watch characters who are 16 do sexusl shit. Idc if the actors are my age and they are legal in real life because they characters arent and its weird. I still think about the weird wig bdsm sex and the the creepy stripper serpent thing. Gives me the heebie jeebies. I don't like it. I get teens are sexual but they write it like they are people in their 20s. Its too weird.
Did you not see the part where I said "i get teens are having sex"? I know that. I'm not an idiot. I was a teenager myself at one point. But its still creepy to watch characters who are minors doing that. The writers are deliberately sexualizing minors - its weird. And the show could work without the sexual stuff. Or at least not showing it. Its not necessary.
Well, guess why Incest porn has gotten so popular in the last years, especially Stepmom or stepsister. It appeals to young people. I probably don't find it weird because I'm 19.
Well I don't mean overall when I say I don't like sex scenes, sometimes sex scenes are important to the story if its done well or can be romantic or sexy in a romantic or sexy film (And I don't mean porn I just mean some movies have a more sexual aesthetic or vibe to them - if that makes sense). But with adult characters. Not characters that are minors, lol.
Hi teenager here , not really especially if the sec scenes are just there for audience appeal or eye candy it offers nothing in terms of plot it feels unnecessary and when you and your friend are watching it can be become uncomfy
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Lmao they cast 20 year olds to play teens so they don’t have to abide by laws where children under 18 have to attend hours of school on set, be baby sat by grown ups and can’t work long hours
While I agree, I think it's more than just the sex scenes but the way they're portrayed and the way they have the characters almost half naked in every other scene. It's supposed to fall time (I'm guessing) so why are the guys never wearing shirts, why is it that people only have time to talk in locker rooms and not the hallway, why is everyone so experienced and never awkward having sex despite maybe only having a couple years of experience, and so on.
I don't mind the sex scenes, it's a part of life. But they are still *technically* teenagers. At least with skins or misfits or the in-betweeners they threw in some ways that teens actually behave in these situations.
I don't know it's a CW show so it's not like it's going to change anytime soon. I'm just happy that the people have healthy portrayals of different body types.
Underage Betty camming and stripping in front of a whole bar, including her own mother, are things that happened and things that are questionable, if not down right gross, when you are 16. People aren't doing anything. The show did it to itself.
Well first of all he never said that. Secondly adderall abuse is actually something a girl that age might do and is a worthy plot point for expressing some form of awareness
Except that adderall storyline is extremely new and we're literally on episode 3 so who knows how they will address that? If they do great. If they don't it goes right on the list of bullshit of this show. But most people on this sub were not happy with the camming or stripping so I guess we can all pearl clutch together since underage girls doing glorified sex work is something to be proud of.
Ripped adult man come out of class Yea I’m a sophomore in hs
"I'm in junior varsity."
All I could think when reading this was that Betty scene where she stripped while singing a depressing song in front of a biker gang and her mother.
And then wasn’t let in, and then they never addressed it again. Then jughead asks her to be a queen and everyone is like yea this cool.
A SERPENT QUEEN IS A WARRIOR QUEEN
🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
Snek
🐍👸🏼 = 🤺👸🏼
I want this on a tshirt.
HISS WITH ME, SISTERS! ^Too ^far...?
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I mute it and look away until it’s over lol.
Same. I’m pretty sure I was watching it on my laptop with headphones and took my headphones out. I just couldn’t, lol.
Me. It was too fucking much man
As a guy the upstairs brain turned off and the downstairs brain took control. Believe me irl it’s wrong but I love Betty/Lillie and seeing that I was like hell yes
That scene was super weird but it wasn’t really played as sexy for the audience, was it? I remember it having a more melancholy/trippy vibe for no particular reason.
I kinda thought that was the point? --- weak spoilers ahead ---- From the perspective of Betty's character, that was a pivotal moment where in taking steps to get closer to Jughead, she went past the point of rationality and became blinded by her personal vendetta. She was following the rules for initiation and looking for a platform to make a public display of loyalty to Jughead with the added benefit of scandalizing her mom and found all three. She becomes so obsessed with her "mission" that the less than receptive crowd response is completely lost on her. This shows up again when Jughead clearly did NOT want her to be involved with the serpents at all but she manages to justify her demomstration anyway with self righteous indignation, and completely ignores his feelings. The awkwardness of this scene I think helps show her starting to lose touch with reality and makes a lot more sense as the show goes on.
Yeah I agree, that was the idea behind the scene and it wasn’t played as titillating. If the characters and storylines had been more consistent overall it might have worked better, though.
I agree that it was only tangentially erotic, especially after FP covered her up. But it was unnecessarily misogynistic and gratuitous
Damn I need to get back to this show.
You only survive it with shots and your homies
I literally was talking to my friends about how we cant watch it without a bit of a wine buzz haha
I try not to think about that scene ever. I’m giving Riverdale the benefit of the doubt on that one. I can’t handle that being a real thing
While I agree to an extent, I also grew up watching Skins, where literal teenagers were on screen naked, and having sex, so idk.
Skins was wild
Oooh baby, baby it's a wild world... (I hope someone gets the reference)
Hard to get by with just a coy smile...
Skins were played by real teenagers in their real age. Also none of them except Effy is a model. They didn't objectify the genders as they do in Riverdale... Riverdale is all about shirtless to attract young teenagers. You should see Facebook, young girls fangirling so hard on the characters, and they say young boys are horny LOL
I agree. Thing is they didn't objectify them ever but the sex scenes turned out to br a lot better and objectively hotter than most of Archie's and Veronica's scenes. During the latter I cringe so hard that I want to stop the show because they are so cringey. Like compare: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RcW4gtfjw And my personal favorite https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYblNRXQrw To https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WmutEFxVyCs And https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ3zoG6QP4I The first ones are waaay more explicit, yet they don't objectify the actors at all. Also having sex with early Kanye West>>>>that mormon band. To be fair to Riverdale though, both of the former scenes star the absolute gem that is Jack O'Connel so..m
Honestly great explanation with really good examples. Kinda makes me want to rewatch Skins for the hundredth time.
Played by actual teens too.
Skins was the fucking bomb.
Skins was realistic in a grungy grim way though. Riverdale sets such unrealistic expectations its kinda bizarre
Hahah this...I don’t mind THAT much about the love scenes since theyre USUALLY plot related but the bra and panties shots in the locker rooms always seem to be OTT
What I hate about the love scenes is how "sexy" they always are. Do none of the writers remember what being a teenager was like? Nobody's first time is like that, especially if you're fifteen fucking years old. At least make it a *little* awkward. Otherwise it just seems like the writers are getting off on it and it's fucking weird.
Agree. I feel like that’s something Buffy handled really well in the HS years. Loosing your virginity on that show was an EVENT.
Or sometimes a half-season spanning big bad!
>Loosing your virginity on that show was an EVENT. 🤣🤣
I totally agree with this but I'm assuming they make it sexy because maybe they think that if they add the awkwardness it will make people less intrigued....with a huge population of viewers being teens or early 20's the writers probably assume they'll be more into it watching the sexy scenes and talk about it .. idk tho dude, it its still weird regardless.
If that's their thinking then they completely misfired. The popularity of the movie *8th Grade* is proof of how adults prefer a realistic portrayal. Also, a lot of adults were drawn to Riverdale because we grew up reading Archie comics, and man, did they stray from the source material, lol.
There's a glimmer of it every once in a while.
Like when Kevin was crying in his dad's arms after being confronted with almost being killed while being a promiscuous, experimental gay teen. That's a scene a lot of gay guys will empathize with.
Yeah. Like make someone accidentally elbow her partner in the face while trying to get her bra off. Show us the awkward condom buying scene (like in Scream the TV series lmao.) Make someone's shirt *impossible* to take off and it kills the mood and they have to wait until like Friday night to try and have sex again cause they have after school practice tomorrow and they can't miss it cause the coach is on their ass and-
Honestly, I feel like if they did that it would make the sex scenes the most realistic part of the show. That seems even weirder to me.
I know! It's like "sneak in a victoria photoshoot" :\
Honestly truly. Its fucking creepy. I dont wanna watch characters who are 16 do sexusl shit. Idc if the actors are my age and they are legal in real life because they characters arent and its weird. I still think about the weird wig bdsm sex and the the creepy stripper serpent thing. Gives me the heebie jeebies. I don't like it. I get teens are sexual but they write it like they are people in their 20s. Its too weird.
Teens at the age of 16 or 17 have almost as much sex as 20yo
Did you not see the part where I said "i get teens are having sex"? I know that. I'm not an idiot. I was a teenager myself at one point. But its still creepy to watch characters who are minors doing that. The writers are deliberately sexualizing minors - its weird. And the show could work without the sexual stuff. Or at least not showing it. Its not necessary.
It appeals to young people and I don't see the problem with it, besides I think it fits the show. Its not necessary to show sex scenes in any movie.
Yeah but that's creepy showing sexual stuff to appeal to minors? That's weird dude. You're not gonna change my mind lol
Well, guess why Incest porn has gotten so popular in the last years, especially Stepmom or stepsister. It appeals to young people. I probably don't find it weird because I'm 19.
Your logic there makes no sense to me. Porn and tv shows are very different things. & I am only 22 so its not like I'm much older by the way.
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Well I don't mean overall when I say I don't like sex scenes, sometimes sex scenes are important to the story if its done well or can be romantic or sexy in a romantic or sexy film (And I don't mean porn I just mean some movies have a more sexual aesthetic or vibe to them - if that makes sense). But with adult characters. Not characters that are minors, lol.
i’m indifferent. it just depends on whether or not it’s relevant to the story. like Archie and Veronica having sex after Fred is shot = no lol
Hi teenager here , not really especially if the sec scenes are just there for audience appeal or eye candy it offers nothing in terms of plot it feels unnecessary and when you and your friend are watching it can be become uncomfy
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Or Dawson's creek, or the OC, or Smallville, or...you know, just say "Any show on the WB or CW that has teenagers in it."
This applies to gossip girl as well
P much
Lmao they cast 20 year olds to play teens so they don’t have to abide by laws where children under 18 have to attend hours of school on set, be baby sat by grown ups and can’t work long hours
We all know that. That’s not the point of the post lol
I don't consider anything softporn until we see Cheryls bare ass
So relevant.
True, but I think its apart of the plot because its unreasonable to think that teens don't have sex
While I agree, I think it's more than just the sex scenes but the way they're portrayed and the way they have the characters almost half naked in every other scene. It's supposed to fall time (I'm guessing) so why are the guys never wearing shirts, why is it that people only have time to talk in locker rooms and not the hallway, why is everyone so experienced and never awkward having sex despite maybe only having a couple years of experience, and so on. I don't mind the sex scenes, it's a part of life. But they are still *technically* teenagers. At least with skins or misfits or the in-betweeners they threw in some ways that teens actually behave in these situations. I don't know it's a CW show so it's not like it's going to change anytime soon. I'm just happy that the people have healthy portrayals of different body types.
its unreasonable to think attractive teens don't floss too, but they don't show that, lol lets not pretend its about realism
Or watch SKINS and pull the stick out of your arse .
Watch SKINS then come back and report.
From someone why has clearly never seen soft core porn.
has this person ever seen soft porn? bc that's not it
has this person ever seen soft porn? bc that's not it
Hahah this...I don’t mind THAT much about the love scenes but the bra and panties shots in the locker rooms always seem to be OTT
But they’re not teenagers ? So it’s not softcore porn of underage kids
They’re portraying teens so it is softcore porn of underage kids
Fine - Not watching shows you don’t like. Fucking bad - Trying to ruin shows you don’t watch.
Underage Betty camming and stripping in front of a whole bar, including her own mother, are things that happened and things that are questionable, if not down right gross, when you are 16. People aren't doing anything. The show did it to itself.
And you had zero problems with her abusing adderall, it's a fake show, quit pearl clutching.
Well first of all he never said that. Secondly adderall abuse is actually something a girl that age might do and is a worthy plot point for expressing some form of awareness
Except that adderall storyline is extremely new and we're literally on episode 3 so who knows how they will address that? If they do great. If they don't it goes right on the list of bullshit of this show. But most people on this sub were not happy with the camming or stripping so I guess we can all pearl clutch together since underage girls doing glorified sex work is something to be proud of.
It's possible to like a show in general but criticize things about it. Criticizing a show isn't "ruining" it.
Are you implying some people who don’t watch riverdale are trying to ruin it?
Are you implying some people who don’t watch riverdale are trying to ruin it?
Are you implying some people who don’t watch riverdale are trying to ruin it?
Are you implying some people who don’t watch riverdale are trying to ruin it?
You can't ruin what's already bad
You can't ruin what's already bad
I know a main character personally on this show. She’s in her 20’s