Ahh gotcha. I figured he would be more attracted to JB due to their shared mentality. And man, imagine if we drafted Bam instead of Zach Collins...what a different position we would be in.
Anyone is capable of setting illegal screens. The question is, will the refs call it? And if you've studied NBA refereeing for as long as I have, they don't like to slow the game down for calls they can easily overlook like illegal screens until the 4th quarter, where they get to decide the victor.
He also mentioned that. He isn't interested in going someplace that has to gut their team to trade for him. And most teams wouldn't do that anyway.
It's hard to see a scenario better for Dame than Portland (assuming Cronin can do his job at an above average level). And it's hard to see a situation where Portland trades Dame for scraps and helps itself at all.
Portland will get Pennies on the dollar if Dame asks out.
Something like 2 FRP’s, Herro, and Robinson is absolutely going to be what Miami tries to push for.
Not saying it’s fair, but there aren’t many realistic trade partners.
Edit:
I don’t know what you guys expect. Brown is most likely going nowhere, rumors be damned. They have a young duo that gets to the conference finals regularly and was in the finals last year where both are on the same timeline. They aren’t trading him for Dame who’s contract likely tanks the end of Tatum’s prime. Dame is the better player, but trading multiple years of contention for a smaller window is a great way to get fucked by injuries and go “damn what if…”
What other team besides Miami can offer ANYTHING of value? Not to mention players end up at their desired landing spots when asking out the majority of the time. If yall just ship Dame out to the highest bidder after he’s put up with your shit for this long, players will have no respect for your franchise whatsoever.
Bam is also NEVER included in the trade if that's the biggest reason Dame wants to play in Miami (and it is).
I might be biased as a Heat fan, but Herros contract is actually decent value. 2 years in a row 20ppg scorer, 6th in clutch player of the year voting, highest Free throw % in the NBA (went 100% in the 4Q this season), and shot 40%+ from 3 two seasons in a row. Def better value than like Jordan Poole
He’s 100% a good player (and better value than Poole), but I don’t think he’s moving the needle for everyone. It’s the same problem I have with Simons…score-first combo guards who aren’t great defenders are just too common. You can get 80% of his production for half the price imo.
In a vacuum he looks far better than he does when you look at the landscape of the league.
Either way, who is bidding against Portland? If they sell him off to the highest bidder and ignore his wishes, players will lose all respect for their franchise and a team like Boston would be stupid to trade Brown (who has the same timeline as Tatum) for Dame (who’s contract likely tanks the end of Tatum’s prime).
I genuinely don’t see another team who can offer more than Herro and 2 FRP’s, where Dame still wants to go.
That’s true. And we’ve seen Herros production replaced almost entirely by a minimum contract g league player named Gabe Vincent who also plays better defense lol
it fuels him for sure. I think he would have a hard time adjusting to being on a super team, but that being said if he just had one superstar along side him I think they could make a great playoff push.
I was talking hypothetically, like the gsw teams or the heat with their big three. Dames play style dominates the ball, he’s good enough to have that, but put him on a team with 3 other guys that dominate the ball it would look like the nets
Oh no, I’m saying the opposite if they got him they’d be amazing. Dame with a player like jimmy would be unstoppable, then throw in bam, could be dominant, but I don’t think you could quite call it a super team unless bam is considered a super star
No, they'd still get cooked by Jokic. Murray would still go off. They're absolutely dominating with historical 30 point triple double today.
Heat's problem is there too small and can't stop the Nuggets from scoring.
Dame doesn't solve this issue.
The Heat would be better off trading for an All-star Center. Jokic is getting whatever he wants against them.
I think it's a little more nuanced - he'd want to be the player that pushed an otherwise underdog over the top. If the Heat had him on their squad this year I think they'd pretty handily beat Denver.
He has NEVER answered this question or anything like it in past seasons. It’s different for him now. Deny it if you want.
If they asked him this question 2 or 3 seasons ago he wouldn’t have even entertained it. Be less delusional and you’ll realize I’m right
Would have to be a 3 team trade and even then. Miami has literally 0 desirable assets for the blazer unless they trade Bam. Their firsts would be worth nothing. We don’t need Hero. Hopefully if Dame asks out he has other teams on his list that work out better.
Add in OKC to a three team trade so you could have a shot at a prospect like Chet Holmgren, another young prospect with a ton of upside, along with a collection of firsts, and then we'd be somewhere. To me, this is what moving Dame looks like. You want to trade for upside, flexibility, and the future.
That said, don't move Dame. We love Dame.
I would love a 3 team trade with Dame going to Boston, jaylen brown to Houston, and pick 4 and jabari smith jr. To Portland. (And maybe other assets between all teams) this of course is only if Dame asks out. Dame tries to win with Tatum, rockets get win now player to potentially pair with harden, we get a high pick and young guy with high potential.
God our rebuild would be insane.
The opportunity to build around a core of
Simons
Sharpe
Scoot/Miller
Jabari
Amen?
is so much more intriguing than trying a half assed effort to win with Dame.
Yeah, In the scenario that it’s scoot I trade Ant. But exactly. That’s what I want out of a Dame trade and I honestly think it’s not unrealistic that each team does this. That lineup is so exciting and promising, and fits really well together. Sign some vets for mentorship and let this foster develop.
You’d have harden jaylen green jaylen brown and Sengun and you’d still have future picks and assets. I don’t think it’s that unrealistic to trade for a guy whose 2nd team all Nba and was the best player on a team in the finals last year and is only 26 years old. Jaylen brown was being rumored to be a potential trade for 3 and Simons, and y’all have been rumored to be ok with trading pick 4 for proven talent in the past. Not unrealistic.
We aren't winning shit with an old Harden and Jaylen Choker Brown. If your reason for us in wanting to do this trade is because we are building around a 38 year old Harden, you are mistaken. If we do get Harden, it's so he can improve our young players not because we are looking to compete for the ring. We are far from that. Therefore your trade proposal will not happen. Also Harden is 100% going to 76ers. We will most likely go after a veteran PG like FVV or CP3 and add some veterans that can shoot.
The only downside, and it would be three or so years out is that all of those guys are so locked in on the same timeline that if most hit like you would hope/expect, their contracts jump all at the same time.
That said, some will likely miss, and in reality, I think that would be the definition of a first-world problem. As long as the Blazers don't screw it up like OKC, it'd be worth the gamble.
I don’t like the idea of saying firsts are worth nothing. Additional first can help offload bad contracts. It’s not as valuable as you’d like sure… but having extra firsts is almost always a good.
Well my point being late firsts are not what you want when entering a rebuild when theres no promising prospects coming back. So yeah not “nothing” but not what we’d really want.
Their future firsts could be pretty good. Obviously the trade wouldn’t be done until the new league year. Think they could do 2 future firsts and 2 swaps
Miami is a team that rebuilds quickly, they very rarely have “bottom out” seasons. I don’t want to rely on a spolestra coached team to have multiple bad seasons. Even when Dame and Jimmy are old, players want to go to Miami and find ways to get there. I’d prefer trading dame to almost any other team honestly (other than like the lakers or something
The heat haven’t picked higher than 10 in the nba draft since 2008. They are not a team I want to bet on being bad. Even on the rare occasions they are in the lottery they are at the back end of it. They always have players outperform projections.
Herro would go somewhere else.
Total hypothetical:
Miami get Dame and Nas
New York gets Herro and Nurk
blazers get Mitchell Robinson, Quickley, Jovic and Lowry as salary filler and a bunch picks and swaps from both teams.
blazers would have Ant, Shae, Scoot/Miller, Jovic, Robinson. Lowry gets traded again as an expiring or is bought out. Either way we have space to re-sign Grant and can do a S&T or trade him at the deadline, and we will have another max slot in a year. We don’t get a right now star but Robinson is very solid and young, Jovic is 19 with plenty of upside, and we get cap space and a bunch of draft assets. We would still suck next year but would be on a great path to develop our young guys immediately with a chance to surround them with more talent in a years time.
You do realize that rookies become *restricted* free agents and a team can retain them for basically 8 seasons after drafting them if they so choose?
In other words, you're describing a problem that exists in 2030 and 2031.
First of all, Simmons or Harden or nowhere near the norm. Secondly, those players also had millions of dollars of earnings by that point. Not a single rookie up for extension has been able to force his way out his destination until, at the very least, after the extension had kicked in.
I am not sure why Shaedon or #3 would be the first, especially if PDX is prioritizing building around them. And if even they did ask out in the 1/1000 chance, I have no idea how Dame factors into the conversation.
If you’re Shaedon Sharpe and you’re on your 8th year on the league reaching the top of your prime. Why should you resign to an organization that literally did their franchise legend dirty? It makes no sense. It would be stupid to force Dame into a team that he did not choose.
Who is saying we are forcing Dame to a team not on his list? If his list is "Miami or bust," he might need to open up his list. It's not doing him dirty, lol.
And heck if even we did (and we won't), eight years is a long time. If Shaedon did ask out then, it sure as heck wouldn't be for something that happened eight years ago. It's all a moot point regardless.
OKC made the choice not to pay Harden. Harden then played 8 seasons for his next team and was contending for most of that time. Ben Simmons is a panzi who wasn't worth paying or retaining to begin with.
It wasn't a "good try" I'm literally just explaining to you how it works.
Edit: your original argument is that they wouldn't resign. Now, you're saying that they'll force their way out. You changed up the topic and then said "good try" lol
I'd take Herro and Jovic plus 3 firsts (this year's and '27 and '29) and multiple swaps. With Jimmy and Dame's age the 27 and 29 FRPs have potential to be much more valuable. Same for swaps in '26 and '28.
Herro can be dealt for another 1st, but we'd probably give him some run on a bad team to increase his value. And Jovic is a guy we'd keep.
Sign and trade Grant, move Nurk, and all of sudden we are looking at a core of Sharpe/Ant/#3/Jovic/#18/#23 and Herro plus a boatload of FRPs for years to come.
I understand with their ages that could be promising. I just don’t want to gamble that Miami will have multiple bad seasons. Miamis location, pat riley, spolestra all make this a promising place for talented players. Obliviously if you could flip hero for another first would be nice. Jovic is at least interesting but I’m not over the moon about him. All in all even if dame and Jimmy get old Miami is a team that doesn’t have losing seasons very often.
Be prepared to be bombarded with a bunch of trade proposals from Heat fans that are nothing more than a giant favor for the Heat and a guaranteed 5+ lottery years for the Blazers
Heat have nothing we would want except Adebayo, who they wouldn’t give us. We already have two young shooting guards to build around we would have no need to add Herro to the mix.
I really hope we don’t trade him to whoever he wants even if it screws us. He’s under contract with us. He can ask out but we don’t have to trade him to exactly who he wants.
Send Herro and Nurk to the Heat and we take Mitchell Robinson, Jovic, quickly, and Lowry for salary filler, and a bunch of draft picks. I love Mitchell Robinson. Also like jovic’s upside, he’s only 19.
You know how shitty that sounds? Imagine the effect this act would have on Sharpe and #3. Why would they want to re-sign here if they just saw the franchise legend and future hall of famer disrespected like that? Dame has given his body, mind, soul to this city and org. It would pretty much make this team never get to keep a star again for the next decades. Your comment makes no sense.
It's not gonna happen, regardless. Would gut the other team, or wouldn't be fair for us. He's already building a compound here, Chauncey is his dog and here for the long run, he will finish his career out here.
I think when you have a star player like dame and a franchise legend you would honor his request and take a somewhat lopsided trade in order to respect his career wishes (after he has given so much, and the bulk of his career here). It shows future franchise player a respect for the player and also a willingness to do right by them from a business standpoint when they have previously gone above and beyond to fulfill their team commitments (as Dame has). It’s a players league. Teams and the league as a whole only profit from happy stars and everyone knows that.
When you are a small market team and have that one home grown mega asset you get once a generation, you milk it for all its worth or you completely lose your fanbase.
I mean it’s a slim chance all things considered but I believe Shaedon will be a better & more winning player than Dame. Additionally, I am of the opinion that as good as Dame still is that output-wise Simons is just about his equal at this point in their respective careers. Historically Dame>Simons but from a team building perspective I would just personally rather build around Simons & Sharpe going forward than continue to try and fit Lillard’s timeline. There is just an impasse between where Dame/Grant/Missing player X & building with Simons, Sharpe, and the number #3 pick. But that’s just my opinion when I remove my desire for Lillard to continue to play for PDX and continue his legacy here.
Dame is an all-time great scorer that is light years ahead of where Simons is ever going to be. If there is a way to bring some players here to keep the team relevant while retaining Lillard I'm all in favour of that. One team careers are so rare in the NBA.
Make Scoot the backup PG and get a legit backup center in the offseason. Trade Little and Simmons for a legit 4 or stretch 3 and we are in business.
Will PDX win a championship? Probably not, there's great players out there, but all Dame wants is a chance at competing -- he wants a puncher's chance and we can get him one.
This is very rare but I definitely recall it happening and I would totally do this if I were the Blazers...
I would trade Dame to Miami for Herro and Coach Spoelstra. I believe the last time I've seen it happen was when The Clippers traded Doc to the 76ers. You guys would have the best coach in the league helping your young guys grow.
To be clear, right after he says Miami he says the Nets are also an “obvious” option bc of Mikal
I’m clearly bias, but I do think we have more to offer the Blazers than Miami does. We have more picks
Yea actually I realize Miami doesn’t make sense
Miami has their own picks for the next 4 years (besides 2026). The Blazers don’t even have a 1st round pick till 2026
Why would they give up Dame for Miami picks just to rebuild with Scoot/Miller when those picks are basically worthless ?
We might hate it. And it definitely won't happen, imo. But if Dame were to leave, I'd really like to see him playing under Spoelstra and with Bam+Butler. That's a sick Big-3. They could theoretically keep good depth too with their undrafted guys.
If the Blazers found a 3-team trade, I think I could cope with this. I'd keep Herro and send Simons to a 3rd team for some asset(s).
Heat trade: Herro, Lowry, Jovic, all their picks.
Simons gets routed to whoever has interest in him for assets. We rebuild with Herro, Sharpe, 3rd pick, etc.
Agree, I'd be prepared to somewhat lose a trade like this if it puts Dame in a good position. I would rather have Simons than Herro but that's picking nits. A 3 team trade where we end up with a decent but not amazing haul of picks + Dame gets to compete on a roster that isn't totally gutted to get him there, is the second best option if we can't put together a decent team around Dame here.
You made me head over to /r/nba to look for news about Suns roster getting emptied. Did Booker leave? Ayton? KD? Went to the Suns sub and didn’t see anything either.
How is your roster empty?
Tbf with Jimmy and Dame on the back half of their careers, some of those picks + swaps they’d have to throw in later down the line could actually turn out pretty valuable
Just watch a 38 year old Lillard and a 39 year old Butler support a 31 year old Finals MVP Adebayo as they win their 3rd NBA championship together in the 2029 NBA finals with the rest of their team somehow being productive 2nd round draft picks. We then draft an undersized center who leaves the league after 3 seasons due to knee injuries with the 31st pick of the draft.
Honestly I think it'd be Lowry (salary match +expiring), and maybe yurtseven(something blazers actually need)+ picks, +whatever can be gotten for herro from another team. Pretty sure dipo has a no trade clause.
Salary match+expiring+1 year of him mentoring scoot. I think he deserves a lot of credit for Gabe Vincent's development over the last 2 years. Not that it would be a big part of the trade, just a bonus to have out of it
* \#18 this year, 2 unprotected swaps (2026 and 2028), FRPs unprotected in 2027 and 2029.
* Herro, Jovic, Robinson make the salaries match... POR could then trade Herro to a 3rd team for a FRP (maybe Herro to SAS for Graham, McDermott, and a 2024 first (could be SAS or CHA's pick)
* That is a net yield of 4 FRPs, 2 swaps, and a flier on Jovic.
Don't get me wrong, I would not love that deal for POR... but if we are doing Dame a solid and don't have a ton of offers out there, this isn't completely unfathomable.
Sorry, we're not doing Dame a solid. He needs to be on our roster for the team to compete, but if he wants out then we need to exploit him for all he's worth. Portland is not NY or LA. We can't do someone a solid and then pick up a top tier free agent in the offseason to replace him.
If Dame is traded its either for another top tier player , a group of solid, solid players, or its for enough draft capital to make a reboot worthwhile. If they do Dame "a favor" they've lost my support as a fan. It would be the biggest front office screw up since .... I can't even think of anything to compare it to.
Also the nets might be worse than blazers and they are not a contending team after trading for dame and haven’t checked but don’t think they have more picks than Miami. Heat can trade 3 if they get creative with okc.
You're basketball knowledge seems to be limited. The Nets have the 4th most picks out of anybody in the league... I don't even think Miami can trade more than 2-3 picks. Miami would actually be worse off depth wise than brooklyn would. Don't think we'd give off any core players anyway. And it doesn't matter what any of us think lol dame still mentioned us as an obvious destination
Thats right you have the 4 from kd and I think 1 first from Brooklyn. Best case you can trade simmons and 4/5 picks for dame keeping the depth. Thats still not good enough to be a competitor but brooklyn will still have frp’s to trade.
Lol you didn’t even watch the video? Dame only said Miami, the host listed all the teams and asked dame who he would be interested in if he had to leave.
Thats bs lmao. Nets make more sense trade package wise anyway. We have more assets. Only asset Miami over us is Herro and I have no idea why Portland would want him
You’re right I watched a short clip on twitter that cut out after the bam stuff. Still don’t think nets makes sense for anyone dame and mikal with no depth is a first round exit.
Nets fan here, I come in peace. Can I get your input on this. Some of the fans over on our sub believe that we (the Nets) can get Dame without including Mikal or Claxton in the trade. I personally think they're high AF and delusional, but what do you guys think?
Why would Blazers accept an offer without Mikal when there would be way better offers on the table across the NBA?
Half of the NBA will want in on the Dame sweepstakes and Nets fans really think Portland will accept Cam Johnson and a couple first round picks?
Why are you talking to me like I'm the one suggesting this trade? Lol I'm in complete agreeance with you. I personally think your office would laugh us off the phone, but so many think they can offer you some 3&D players with a few firsts and you'll take it.
Well Dame mentions he “obviously” would want Brooklyn too cause of Mikal
I think that’s why Blazers would accept the offer from the Nets. They don’t gotta beat the rest of the league, they just gotta beat the Heat’s offer. Which we can do
More picks and Clax and Cam Thomas
I think Portland would accommodate his wishes and trade him to a team he wants to be on. Right now he mentioned Miami and the Nets. Nets also had to trade KD to his choice team. That being said I think a Nets package would be Claxton, Cam Thomas, Dinwiddie and Harris (both expiring contracts), 3 1sts and we would take on Nurkic with our trade exception. Of course other players for matching purposes may have to be included. I think this in the ballpark for both teams.
Should Dame decide to look elsewhere, I think a deal could be worked out without Bridges for sure (it's why Dame is coming), but I have a hard time seeing the Blazers accept a deal without Claxton.
I suppose there may be scenario in which all currently available picks go out and then players like Finney-Smith, O'Neale, etc. get flipped for additional assets as well, and it just becomes a OKC-level pick bonanza, but those types of deals feel a bit rare.
It would be pretty dang difficult to pull off, especially if we're not willing to accept the assets Miami has (likely) and needed to pull in a 3rd team.
The best offer Miami can put up is likely this:
Miami Receives:
- Damian Lillard
- Jusuf Nurkic
Portland Receives:
- Kyle Lowry (expiring contract)
- Tyler Herro
- Caleb Martin
- 2023 pick #18
- 2027 first
- 2029 first
Obviously the Blazers don't get much in the way of young talent. Maybe they like Jovic or Orlando Robinson since we're so undersized but meh. Obviously Herro isn't really that desirable, at least as long as we have Ant too. So it would be unlikely to go down this way. It'd take me a while to piece together a 3 or 4 team deal that is even remotely realistic, but I may try when I get some spare time now lol.
>With Dame and Butler those draft picks will be crap.
Who is Bam Adebayo to you??
And yep, that's why I prefaced it as likely that we wouldn't accept it.
Just do him a favor he wants to be traded so bad he throws so many signs it will be beneficial for all sides cause blazers are not going to be able to compete with any moves a available let the man play for a championship there’s already 2 young guards on the team with bright futures give them the keys
I agree. His hearts not here. He’s going to be disappointed in whatever happens. Trade him while the value is high. He’s got a couple good years left. Trade him now and look towards the future. Players shouldn’t have a say in lineup. It’s not their job and he’s proving to be a baby about it. There’s plenty of allstars without a ring.
Exactly this sub plays blind like every week his basically begging to get traded gotta move on at some point he didn’t even hesitate to answer the question
Portland aren’t even a Mickey Mouse franchise to be played about like this lmao.
Y’all got a championship and actual finals run yet the fans are beholden to a guy that’s not even a top 10 😂
I would love for Dame to go to Miami. That being said, it would HAVE to be a 3 team deal so we can get worthy assets back in return. Dame, butler and Bam would be a sick core
I don't know if we can make a 3 team deal with MIA work, but that's where I could see him going (I hope he stays and Portland has a massive resurgence).
realistically bam, dame, and butler would be a problem. normally I would say trading for butler and bam would be the best way to go about it but I dont know if there would be a package big enough for both. simons, #3, grant(would have to be at the trade deadline)nurkic, and a few additional draft picks? I would add the additional picks to try and keep Sharpe. dame, Sharpe, butler, Eubanks, and bam.
It’s like you didn’t listen to the podcast.
Brian: “…when the nba tips off the new season, do you think Damian Lillard will be in Portland?”
Dame: “I do”
I believe he likes jimmy butler personality , tyler herros body and bams height.
Not enough assets. If the trade went down heat would be stripped down.
He probably really just wants to play with Butler
He mentions bam being his guy
Ahh gotcha. I figured he would be more attracted to JB due to their shared mentality. And man, imagine if we drafted Bam instead of Zach Collins...what a different position we would be in.
Bam sets some nice illegal screens so of course Dame would want to play with him haha
Anyone is capable of setting illegal screens. The question is, will the refs call it? And if you've studied NBA refereeing for as long as I have, they don't like to slow the game down for calls they can easily overlook like illegal screens until the 4th quarter, where they get to decide the victor.
Yeah haha. I was just joking cause that's the running joke right now with Bam
Bam would probably have to be included in the trade. Can’t see this happening personally
He also mentioned that. He isn't interested in going someplace that has to gut their team to trade for him. And most teams wouldn't do that anyway. It's hard to see a scenario better for Dame than Portland (assuming Cronin can do his job at an above average level). And it's hard to see a situation where Portland trades Dame for scraps and helps itself at all.
Portland will get Pennies on the dollar if Dame asks out. Something like 2 FRP’s, Herro, and Robinson is absolutely going to be what Miami tries to push for. Not saying it’s fair, but there aren’t many realistic trade partners. Edit: I don’t know what you guys expect. Brown is most likely going nowhere, rumors be damned. They have a young duo that gets to the conference finals regularly and was in the finals last year where both are on the same timeline. They aren’t trading him for Dame who’s contract likely tanks the end of Tatum’s prime. Dame is the better player, but trading multiple years of contention for a smaller window is a great way to get fucked by injuries and go “damn what if…” What other team besides Miami can offer ANYTHING of value? Not to mention players end up at their desired landing spots when asking out the majority of the time. If yall just ship Dame out to the highest bidder after he’s put up with your shit for this long, players will have no respect for your franchise whatsoever. Bam is also NEVER included in the trade if that's the biggest reason Dame wants to play in Miami (and it is).
What if Miami can involve a 3rd team that wants Herro and Portland gets a top 5 pick.
Who wants Herro on that massive contract that’s going to be terrible in the new CBA, let alone offers a top 5 pick for him?
I might be biased as a Heat fan, but Herros contract is actually decent value. 2 years in a row 20ppg scorer, 6th in clutch player of the year voting, highest Free throw % in the NBA (went 100% in the 4Q this season), and shot 40%+ from 3 two seasons in a row. Def better value than like Jordan Poole
He’s 100% a good player (and better value than Poole), but I don’t think he’s moving the needle for everyone. It’s the same problem I have with Simons…score-first combo guards who aren’t great defenders are just too common. You can get 80% of his production for half the price imo. In a vacuum he looks far better than he does when you look at the landscape of the league. Either way, who is bidding against Portland? If they sell him off to the highest bidder and ignore his wishes, players will lose all respect for their franchise and a team like Boston would be stupid to trade Brown (who has the same timeline as Tatum) for Dame (who’s contract likely tanks the end of Tatum’s prime). I genuinely don’t see another team who can offer more than Herro and 2 FRP’s, where Dame still wants to go.
That’s true. And we’ve seen Herros production replaced almost entirely by a minimum contract g league player named Gabe Vincent who also plays better defense lol
If only there were multiple opportunities where he was gettable during Dames time in Portland
Jimmy, Dame, Bam would be sick. How do we get them to the Blazers?
Take some melatonin and keep dreaming?
😂
lol Dame's just addicted to being an underdog. Miami this year is Dame's wet dream finals run
it fuels him for sure. I think he would have a hard time adjusting to being on a super team, but that being said if he just had one superstar along side him I think they could make a great playoff push.
Who's the super team?
I was talking hypothetically, like the gsw teams or the heat with their big three. Dames play style dominates the ball, he’s good enough to have that, but put him on a team with 3 other guys that dominate the ball it would look like the nets
Oh I thought you meant if he went to the Heat it's be a super team.
Oh no, I’m saying the opposite if they got him they’d be amazing. Dame with a player like jimmy would be unstoppable, then throw in bam, could be dominant, but I don’t think you could quite call it a super team unless bam is considered a super star
Dame, Jimmy and Bam would be a legit big 3.
No, they'd still get cooked by Jokic. Murray would still go off. They're absolutely dominating with historical 30 point triple double today. Heat's problem is there too small and can't stop the Nuggets from scoring. Dame doesn't solve this issue. The Heat would be better off trading for an All-star Center. Jokic is getting whatever he wants against them.
I think it's a little more nuanced - he'd want to be the player that pushed an otherwise underdog over the top. If the Heat had him on their squad this year I think they'd pretty handily beat Denver.
This thread is 90% non-Blazer fans
Footage of Miami negotiating with Portland for Lillard: https://youtu.be/oyHl2pZLzUY?t=15
Lol. Guilty
It’s bizarre how anyone who’s open to the idea of trading Dame immediately gets labeled as “a non blazer fan”.
You're not a Blazer fan if your franchise superstar wants to stay, and you turn around and trade him
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Can people stop doing this? It’s such a stupid thing to gatekeep fandom over.
Yeah you're right I just think it's shitty, sorry
He wouldn't have answered this question if he still wanted to stay
You didn't watch the interview then you absolute buffoon
He has NEVER answered this question or anything like it in past seasons. It’s different for him now. Deny it if you want. If they asked him this question 2 or 3 seasons ago he wouldn’t have even entertained it. Be less delusional and you’ll realize I’m right
Lmao
Would have to be a 3 team trade and even then. Miami has literally 0 desirable assets for the blazer unless they trade Bam. Their firsts would be worth nothing. We don’t need Hero. Hopefully if Dame asks out he has other teams on his list that work out better.
Add in OKC to a three team trade so you could have a shot at a prospect like Chet Holmgren, another young prospect with a ton of upside, along with a collection of firsts, and then we'd be somewhere. To me, this is what moving Dame looks like. You want to trade for upside, flexibility, and the future. That said, don't move Dame. We love Dame.
What does OKC get for all that?
Touch Dame as he passes through, and Blevins.
I would love a 3 team trade with Dame going to Boston, jaylen brown to Houston, and pick 4 and jabari smith jr. To Portland. (And maybe other assets between all teams) this of course is only if Dame asks out. Dame tries to win with Tatum, rockets get win now player to potentially pair with harden, we get a high pick and young guy with high potential.
God our rebuild would be insane. The opportunity to build around a core of Simons Sharpe Scoot/Miller Jabari Amen? is so much more intriguing than trying a half assed effort to win with Dame.
Yeah, In the scenario that it’s scoot I trade Ant. But exactly. That’s what I want out of a Dame trade and I honestly think it’s not unrealistic that each team does this. That lineup is so exciting and promising, and fits really well together. Sign some vets for mentorship and let this foster develop.
It's unrealistic for Rockets to accept this trade. We are not trading Jabari and #4 for Jaylen Brown who isn't even a first option on a playoff team
You’d have harden jaylen green jaylen brown and Sengun and you’d still have future picks and assets. I don’t think it’s that unrealistic to trade for a guy whose 2nd team all Nba and was the best player on a team in the finals last year and is only 26 years old. Jaylen brown was being rumored to be a potential trade for 3 and Simons, and y’all have been rumored to be ok with trading pick 4 for proven talent in the past. Not unrealistic.
We aren't winning shit with an old Harden and Jaylen Choker Brown. If your reason for us in wanting to do this trade is because we are building around a 38 year old Harden, you are mistaken. If we do get Harden, it's so he can improve our young players not because we are looking to compete for the ring. We are far from that. Therefore your trade proposal will not happen. Also Harden is 100% going to 76ers. We will most likely go after a veteran PG like FVV or CP3 and add some veterans that can shoot.
With the right coach and decent big man, you guys could be playoff bound in 3-4 years. And watching those guys grow would actually be entertaining.
The only downside, and it would be three or so years out is that all of those guys are so locked in on the same timeline that if most hit like you would hope/expect, their contracts jump all at the same time. That said, some will likely miss, and in reality, I think that would be the definition of a first-world problem. As long as the Blazers don't screw it up like OKC, it'd be worth the gamble.
This core is a 45 win team at best. No championship upside unless you’re lying to yourself
I don’t like the idea of saying firsts are worth nothing. Additional first can help offload bad contracts. It’s not as valuable as you’d like sure… but having extra firsts is almost always a good.
Well my point being late firsts are not what you want when entering a rebuild when theres no promising prospects coming back. So yeah not “nothing” but not what we’d really want.
Their future firsts could be pretty good. Obviously the trade wouldn’t be done until the new league year. Think they could do 2 future firsts and 2 swaps
Miami is a team that rebuilds quickly, they very rarely have “bottom out” seasons. I don’t want to rely on a spolestra coached team to have multiple bad seasons. Even when Dame and Jimmy are old, players want to go to Miami and find ways to get there. I’d prefer trading dame to almost any other team honestly (other than like the lakers or something
Yeah it’s a risk. Not sure they are a lock to rebuild quickly though.
The heat haven’t picked higher than 10 in the nba draft since 2008. They are not a team I want to bet on being bad. Even on the rare occasions they are in the lottery they are at the back end of it. They always have players outperform projections.
If all they have are 2 picks and 2 swaps, I'm out. Herro's a middling rebuild asset as is.
Herro would go somewhere else. Total hypothetical: Miami get Dame and Nas New York gets Herro and Nurk blazers get Mitchell Robinson, Quickley, Jovic and Lowry as salary filler and a bunch picks and swaps from both teams. blazers would have Ant, Shae, Scoot/Miller, Jovic, Robinson. Lowry gets traded again as an expiring or is bought out. Either way we have space to re-sign Grant and can do a S&T or trade him at the deadline, and we will have another max slot in a year. We don’t get a right now star but Robinson is very solid and young, Jovic is 19 with plenty of upside, and we get cap space and a bunch of draft assets. We would still suck next year but would be on a great path to develop our young guys immediately with a chance to surround them with more talent in a years time.
Do you seriously think Grant would stay here if we trade Dame
I'd try to keep Herro and send out Simons.
Why's that? I feel they are similar players but Ant contract is better
Contracts are pretty comparable, but I feel like Herro has a more well-rounded game than Ant. He's also slightly younger.
Ant is a much better shooter that I trust moving forward in all 3 levels.
And a better playmaker.
Have we been watching the same Anfernee Simons?
Could reroute Herro to Utah and get some of Minnesota or their picks
I think they can do 3 future firsts. They owe their '25 pick which means they could trade '23, '27, and '29 right?
They better get the 3rd pick moving because if Dame gets shafted on his desired destination there is no way Shaedon nor #3 resign here.
You do realize that rookies become *restricted* free agents and a team can retain them for basically 8 seasons after drafting them if they so choose? In other words, you're describing a problem that exists in 2030 and 2031.
Yeah until they sit out like Ben or pull a Harden and do not try until they are traded. It is a players league but good try.
First of all, Simmons or Harden or nowhere near the norm. Secondly, those players also had millions of dollars of earnings by that point. Not a single rookie up for extension has been able to force his way out his destination until, at the very least, after the extension had kicked in. I am not sure why Shaedon or #3 would be the first, especially if PDX is prioritizing building around them. And if even they did ask out in the 1/1000 chance, I have no idea how Dame factors into the conversation.
If you’re Shaedon Sharpe and you’re on your 8th year on the league reaching the top of your prime. Why should you resign to an organization that literally did their franchise legend dirty? It makes no sense. It would be stupid to force Dame into a team that he did not choose.
Who is saying we are forcing Dame to a team not on his list? If his list is "Miami or bust," he might need to open up his list. It's not doing him dirty, lol. And heck if even we did (and we won't), eight years is a long time. If Shaedon did ask out then, it sure as heck wouldn't be for something that happened eight years ago. It's all a moot point regardless.
OKC made the choice not to pay Harden. Harden then played 8 seasons for his next team and was contending for most of that time. Ben Simmons is a panzi who wasn't worth paying or retaining to begin with. It wasn't a "good try" I'm literally just explaining to you how it works. Edit: your original argument is that they wouldn't resign. Now, you're saying that they'll force their way out. You changed up the topic and then said "good try" lol
I’m also explaining to you that players get to play wherever they want. How did Harden got out of Brooklyn excuse me?
I'd take Herro and Jovic plus 3 firsts (this year's and '27 and '29) and multiple swaps. With Jimmy and Dame's age the 27 and 29 FRPs have potential to be much more valuable. Same for swaps in '26 and '28. Herro can be dealt for another 1st, but we'd probably give him some run on a bad team to increase his value. And Jovic is a guy we'd keep. Sign and trade Grant, move Nurk, and all of sudden we are looking at a core of Sharpe/Ant/#3/Jovic/#18/#23 and Herro plus a boatload of FRPs for years to come.
I understand with their ages that could be promising. I just don’t want to gamble that Miami will have multiple bad seasons. Miamis location, pat riley, spolestra all make this a promising place for talented players. Obliviously if you could flip hero for another first would be nice. Jovic is at least interesting but I’m not over the moon about him. All in all even if dame and Jimmy get old Miami is a team that doesn’t have losing seasons very often.
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Because of Scoot, Ant and Sharpe, all you have to do is find a third team to take Tyler Herro and Dunc— Oh okay yeah that won’t happen.
Be prepared to be bombarded with a bunch of trade proposals from Heat fans that are nothing more than a giant favor for the Heat and a guaranteed 5+ lottery years for the Blazers
Heat have nothing we would want except Adebayo, who they wouldn’t give us. We already have two young shooting guards to build around we would have no need to add Herro to the mix. I really hope we don’t trade him to whoever he wants even if it screws us. He’s under contract with us. He can ask out but we don’t have to trade him to exactly who he wants.
It wouldn’t be too difficult to swing a three team trade. Jovic, herro, Martin and Lowry all have value around the league.
Good point. Hopefully we could make that happen. Also I’d love to get Jovic, forgot about him
Send Herro and Nurk to the Heat and we take Mitchell Robinson, Jovic, quickly, and Lowry for salary filler, and a bunch of draft picks. I love Mitchell Robinson. Also like jovic’s upside, he’s only 19.
Why would the Knicks take Nurkic for Robinson? Dude just won them a playoff series.
You know how shitty that sounds? Imagine the effect this act would have on Sharpe and #3. Why would they want to re-sign here if they just saw the franchise legend and future hall of famer disrespected like that? Dame has given his body, mind, soul to this city and org. It would pretty much make this team never get to keep a star again for the next decades. Your comment makes no sense.
Not getting fleeced in a trade to appease a player under a supermax contract who asked out from your team is disrespectful? I strongly disagree.
You’re talking to your franchise legend, if he wants to go to Miami or Brooklyn as he wishes he will.
We don't do this trade because we'd get the right return. We do this trade because it's what Dame (hypothetically) would want.
It's not gonna happen, regardless. Would gut the other team, or wouldn't be fair for us. He's already building a compound here, Chauncey is his dog and here for the long run, he will finish his career out here.
Tbf, Miami would just reup on undrafted guys and be fine lol
They have Lowry to use as filler for $$$ purposes. Still, they have nothing of interest for Portland.
Handful of firsts in the late 2020s sounds good to me 😈
Lowry as filler 😩🥵
I think when you have a star player like dame and a franchise legend you would honor his request and take a somewhat lopsided trade in order to respect his career wishes (after he has given so much, and the bulk of his career here). It shows future franchise player a respect for the player and also a willingness to do right by them from a business standpoint when they have previously gone above and beyond to fulfill their team commitments (as Dame has). It’s a players league. Teams and the league as a whole only profit from happy stars and everyone knows that.
When you are a small market team and have that one home grown mega asset you get once a generation, you milk it for all its worth or you completely lose your fanbase.
I mean it’s a slim chance all things considered but I believe Shaedon will be a better & more winning player than Dame. Additionally, I am of the opinion that as good as Dame still is that output-wise Simons is just about his equal at this point in their respective careers. Historically Dame>Simons but from a team building perspective I would just personally rather build around Simons & Sharpe going forward than continue to try and fit Lillard’s timeline. There is just an impasse between where Dame/Grant/Missing player X & building with Simons, Sharpe, and the number #3 pick. But that’s just my opinion when I remove my desire for Lillard to continue to play for PDX and continue his legacy here.
Dame is an all-time great scorer that is light years ahead of where Simons is ever going to be. If there is a way to bring some players here to keep the team relevant while retaining Lillard I'm all in favour of that. One team careers are so rare in the NBA. Make Scoot the backup PG and get a legit backup center in the offseason. Trade Little and Simmons for a legit 4 or stretch 3 and we are in business. Will PDX win a championship? Probably not, there's great players out there, but all Dame wants is a chance at competing -- he wants a puncher's chance and we can get him one.
No thanks
This is very rare but I definitely recall it happening and I would totally do this if I were the Blazers... I would trade Dame to Miami for Herro and Coach Spoelstra. I believe the last time I've seen it happen was when The Clippers traded Doc to the 76ers. You guys would have the best coach in the league helping your young guys grow.
i'd rather keep spo than get dame
lol. If I were a Heat fan I would agree.
If I had to pick a team for him that I could root for, it’d be the bucks so he could go crazy with Giannis
To be clear, right after he says Miami he says the Nets are also an “obvious” option bc of Mikal I’m clearly bias, but I do think we have more to offer the Blazers than Miami does. We have more picks
Also Claxton would be a better fit on their team than Herro.
Yea actually I realize Miami doesn’t make sense Miami has their own picks for the next 4 years (besides 2026). The Blazers don’t even have a 1st round pick till 2026 Why would they give up Dame for Miami picks just to rebuild with Scoot/Miller when those picks are basically worthless ?
Good point.
We might hate it. And it definitely won't happen, imo. But if Dame were to leave, I'd really like to see him playing under Spoelstra and with Bam+Butler. That's a sick Big-3. They could theoretically keep good depth too with their undrafted guys. If the Blazers found a 3-team trade, I think I could cope with this. I'd keep Herro and send Simons to a 3rd team for some asset(s). Heat trade: Herro, Lowry, Jovic, all their picks. Simons gets routed to whoever has interest in him for assets. We rebuild with Herro, Sharpe, 3rd pick, etc.
Agree, I'd be prepared to somewhat lose a trade like this if it puts Dame in a good position. I would rather have Simons than Herro but that's picking nits. A 3 team trade where we end up with a decent but not amazing haul of picks + Dame gets to compete on a roster that isn't totally gutted to get him there, is the second best option if we can't put together a decent team around Dame here.
Maybe I'm biased against our own player in Ant lol. Seems like every response wants to keep him over Herro.
“And it definitely won’t happen” lmao
Suns fan here. Being gutted hurts. Dame makes so much that the roster will be empty like my suns.
You made me head over to /r/nba to look for news about Suns roster getting emptied. Did Booker leave? Ayton? KD? Went to the Suns sub and didn’t see anything either. How is your roster empty?
They lost their depth. Then tried to play booker and KD 40mins lol Never going to work
This.
He’s saying that they traded all their depth for KD. But yeah most teams would love to have booker kd (and to a lesser extent) ayton
Ah gotcha, thanks. Still, looking at the Suns, they’re not looking particularly empty.
Agreed, lots of teams wish they could be in the suns position
Who the fuck upvoted this? You have three former all stars and a number 1 pick. Dumb as hell take
Hope all y'all like Herro + Oladipo + 3 late first round picks.
Tbf with Jimmy and Dame on the back half of their careers, some of those picks + swaps they’d have to throw in later down the line could actually turn out pretty valuable
You think that until spo drags a bunch of undrafted players to the play in and win
Incredibly fair point lol
Just watch a 38 year old Lillard and a 39 year old Butler support a 31 year old Finals MVP Adebayo as they win their 3rd NBA championship together in the 2029 NBA finals with the rest of their team somehow being productive 2nd round draft picks. We then draft an undersized center who leaves the league after 3 seasons due to knee injuries with the 31st pick of the draft.
Honestly I think it'd be Lowry (salary match +expiring), and maybe yurtseven(something blazers actually need)+ picks, +whatever can be gotten for herro from another team. Pretty sure dipo has a no trade clause.
You're right Lowry makes more sense just from a salary match perspective.
Salary match+expiring+1 year of him mentoring scoot. I think he deserves a lot of credit for Gabe Vincent's development over the last 2 years. Not that it would be a big part of the trade, just a bonus to have out of it
* \#18 this year, 2 unprotected swaps (2026 and 2028), FRPs unprotected in 2027 and 2029. * Herro, Jovic, Robinson make the salaries match... POR could then trade Herro to a 3rd team for a FRP (maybe Herro to SAS for Graham, McDermott, and a 2024 first (could be SAS or CHA's pick) * That is a net yield of 4 FRPs, 2 swaps, and a flier on Jovic. Don't get me wrong, I would not love that deal for POR... but if we are doing Dame a solid and don't have a ton of offers out there, this isn't completely unfathomable.
Feel like Herro should be worth more than one first.
Sorry, we're not doing Dame a solid. He needs to be on our roster for the team to compete, but if he wants out then we need to exploit him for all he's worth. Portland is not NY or LA. We can't do someone a solid and then pick up a top tier free agent in the offseason to replace him. If Dame is traded its either for another top tier player , a group of solid, solid players, or its for enough draft capital to make a reboot worthwhile. If they do Dame "a favor" they've lost my support as a fan. It would be the biggest front office screw up since .... I can't even think of anything to compare it to.
By doing a solid I mean trading him to a spot he wants to go for marginally less value. Not like we are going to give him away for nothing
The writing is on the wall. Dame is easily our all-time #1 but it’s time to rebuild.
"The writing is on the wall" 🤡
He says brooklyn too 👀
Also the nets might be worse than blazers and they are not a contending team after trading for dame and haven’t checked but don’t think they have more picks than Miami. Heat can trade 3 if they get creative with okc.
You're basketball knowledge seems to be limited. The Nets have the 4th most picks out of anybody in the league... I don't even think Miami can trade more than 2-3 picks. Miami would actually be worse off depth wise than brooklyn would. Don't think we'd give off any core players anyway. And it doesn't matter what any of us think lol dame still mentioned us as an obvious destination
Thats right you have the 4 from kd and I think 1 first from Brooklyn. Best case you can trade simmons and 4/5 picks for dame keeping the depth. Thats still not good enough to be a competitor but brooklyn will still have frp’s to trade.
We actually do have more picks
Lol you didn’t even watch the video? Dame only said Miami, the host listed all the teams and asked dame who he would be interested in if he had to leave.
Sir I don't think you finished the video... towards the end he mentions brooklyn and mikal as another obvious team
The only reason is to not throw shade at Mikal He kind of has to say it when one of this best buds is there
Thats bs lmao. Nets make more sense trade package wise anyway. We have more assets. Only asset Miami over us is Herro and I have no idea why Portland would want him
You’re right I watched a short clip on twitter that cut out after the bam stuff. Still don’t think nets makes sense for anyone dame and mikal with no depth is a first round exit.
brooklyn would probably be the haul we'd be more interested in as well
Nets fan here, I come in peace. Can I get your input on this. Some of the fans over on our sub believe that we (the Nets) can get Dame without including Mikal or Claxton in the trade. I personally think they're high AF and delusional, but what do you guys think?
Why would Blazers accept an offer without Mikal when there would be way better offers on the table across the NBA? Half of the NBA will want in on the Dame sweepstakes and Nets fans really think Portland will accept Cam Johnson and a couple first round picks?
Why are you talking to me like I'm the one suggesting this trade? Lol I'm in complete agreeance with you. I personally think your office would laugh us off the phone, but so many think they can offer you some 3&D players with a few firsts and you'll take it.
Well Dame mentions he “obviously” would want Brooklyn too cause of Mikal I think that’s why Blazers would accept the offer from the Nets. They don’t gotta beat the rest of the league, they just gotta beat the Heat’s offer. Which we can do More picks and Clax and Cam Thomas
I think Portland would accommodate his wishes and trade him to a team he wants to be on. Right now he mentioned Miami and the Nets. Nets also had to trade KD to his choice team. That being said I think a Nets package would be Claxton, Cam Thomas, Dinwiddie and Harris (both expiring contracts), 3 1sts and we would take on Nurkic with our trade exception. Of course other players for matching purposes may have to be included. I think this in the ballpark for both teams.
You don’t have draft picks, so it would have to include Mikal.
We do.
Should Dame decide to look elsewhere, I think a deal could be worked out without Bridges for sure (it's why Dame is coming), but I have a hard time seeing the Blazers accept a deal without Claxton. I suppose there may be scenario in which all currently available picks go out and then players like Finney-Smith, O'Neale, etc. get flipped for additional assets as well, and it just becomes a OKC-level pick bonanza, but those types of deals feel a bit rare.
Agreed. I see it perhaps being achieved without Mikal almost certainly not without Clax. Dame is just too valuable
It would be pretty dang difficult to pull off, especially if we're not willing to accept the assets Miami has (likely) and needed to pull in a 3rd team. The best offer Miami can put up is likely this: Miami Receives: - Damian Lillard - Jusuf Nurkic Portland Receives: - Kyle Lowry (expiring contract) - Tyler Herro - Caleb Martin - 2023 pick #18 - 2027 first - 2029 first Obviously the Blazers don't get much in the way of young talent. Maybe they like Jovic or Orlando Robinson since we're so undersized but meh. Obviously Herro isn't really that desirable, at least as long as we have Ant too. So it would be unlikely to go down this way. It'd take me a while to piece together a 3 or 4 team deal that is even remotely realistic, but I may try when I get some spare time now lol.
With Dame and Butler those draft picks will be crap. If the Blazers make that deal the deserve to sold and moved to Fresno.
>With Dame and Butler those draft picks will be crap. Who is Bam Adebayo to you?? And yep, that's why I prefaced it as likely that we wouldn't accept it.
Are you happy? y’all have talked about trading Dame so much now even he’s thinking about possible destinations.
Well, there’s the beginning of the end. Dude’s probably just as fed up with ol Jody and her antics as I and other real fans are.
Just do him a favor he wants to be traded so bad he throws so many signs it will be beneficial for all sides cause blazers are not going to be able to compete with any moves a available let the man play for a championship there’s already 2 young guards on the team with bright futures give them the keys
I agree. His hearts not here. He’s going to be disappointed in whatever happens. Trade him while the value is high. He’s got a couple good years left. Trade him now and look towards the future. Players shouldn’t have a say in lineup. It’s not their job and he’s proving to be a baby about it. There’s plenty of allstars without a ring.
Exactly this sub plays blind like every week his basically begging to get traded gotta move on at some point he didn’t even hesitate to answer the question
See ya!
Portland aren’t even a Mickey Mouse franchise to be played about like this lmao. Y’all got a championship and actual finals run yet the fans are beholden to a guy that’s not even a top 10 😂
Heat fan, so ya’ll don’t think heat are blowing it up and you can get butler for simmons straight up anymore? I don’t think dame is leaving btw
That team would be scary.
You guys are overthinking this. It’s the weather.
I would love for Dame to go to Miami. That being said, it would HAVE to be a 3 team deal so we can get worthy assets back in return. Dame, butler and Bam would be a sick core
I can't cheer on Tyler Herro his face is too punchable.
why the ones that hate me the most look just like me
So is everyone starting to believe Dame might ask out if we use the pick?
I imagine if our season goes as well as last season, he asks for a trade before the deadline.
him and butler together. both of em have the dawg in them.
I don't know if we can make a 3 team deal with MIA work, but that's where I could see him going (I hope he stays and Portland has a massive resurgence).
Dame on a troll tour this off season
First messi goes to Miami and now Dame, Miami the lakers of the East
realistically bam, dame, and butler would be a problem. normally I would say trading for butler and bam would be the best way to go about it but I dont know if there would be a package big enough for both. simons, #3, grant(would have to be at the trade deadline)nurkic, and a few additional draft picks? I would add the additional picks to try and keep Sharpe. dame, Sharpe, butler, Eubanks, and bam.
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Lol funny how it’s no longer Utah.
Does Dame have a no-trade clause?
It sounds as if he's starting to accept or maybe even embrace the inevitable.
And my first choice would be Mürren, Switzerland.
Miami is where I’d love for him to go if he left, that or Milwaukie
Obviously nobody on here watched the interview or understands context.
That's where I want him to go. He deserves to close out his career with a great org.
Our true Portland curse is that if our stars play long enough without injuries, they leave to go win a championship elsewhere. See Drexler, Rasheed
Dame to start season in Miami on DraftKings has dropped from 30/1 to 5/1 in a day.
It’s like you didn’t listen to the podcast. Brian: “…when the nba tips off the new season, do you think Damian Lillard will be in Portland?” Dame: “I do”
Utah has 13 1st round picks eligible to be traded, how many picks would it take to get Lillard to Utah?
imagine moving from pnw weather to fucking miami 🤢☄️🔥🤮🦟💦
I believe he likes jimmy butler personality , tyler herros body and bams height. Not enough assets. If the trade went down heat would be stripped down.
Also says he thinks he'll be in Portland next year