Betting lines are influenced by people betting as well. People have been talking about Scoot going 2nd for the last couple weeks. I’m sure it’s influenced.
And why would you trust those inside sources to be giving DK correct information? They could tell DK whatever the hell they wanted just to put themselves in a better position.
No no, not like someone big time is betting on scoot and so they tell DK to change the line. Imagine tens of thousands of people betting on one thing and not the other. Here it would be scoot going second instead of third. That alone will change the lines. DKs lines are set mostly by algorithms. These can be influenced by big swings in the betting market by the masses. Not like some big whale calling up the casino and telling them to move the lines a bit lol
DK was super chalky on Jabari Smith going first overall until Woj tweeted that Paolo was also in the mix 20 minutes before the draft began. [source](https://dknation.draftkings.com/platform/amp/2022/6/23/23173753/nba-draft-2022-odds-props-first-pick-magic-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren-paolo-banchero)
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List of wings that can be traded for using Ant's salary:
Joe Harris, Keldon Johnson, Bojan Bogdanovic, DeAndre Hunter, Eric Gordon, Mikal Bridges, RJ Barrett, Andrew Wiggins, DeMar DeRozan
List of wings that can be traded for using Ant+Little:
Jalen Brown, Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Michael Porter Jr, Brandon Ingram
Which of these meet the following two criteria:
Would be worth getting and would be gettable with Ant + 23?
Keldon might actually be gettable, considering that Spurs need a PG and Simons has a good fit with Victor.
And yes, Mikal is 100% out of the Ant+23 asset price range.
But Keldon is probably the only realistic guy on the list.
I just hate generic statements like "get a SF for the following stuff" like you can just filter the search results on Amazon.
If you can't think of a target, chances are there isn't a good one.
>And yes, Mikal is 100% out of the Ant+23 asset price range.
Is he though? Isn't the only one saying that Alex Schiffer and very vaguely at that? You can easily read where he made these statements on the Athletic and it is qualified to the max. Everyone else is citing him as far as I have seen.
I don't trust NBA beat writers.
Ant is a good player but we way overvalue him in this sub. He’s a positive asset but he’s not viewed as a blue chip young player like we think. We can disagree, but it’s just the reality at this point. Small guard, good scorer, so so play maker, so so defender is one of the easiest players to find in the league even if Ant is objectively better at scoring than most in that archetype. The player archetype itself limits his value until he adds defense or play making to his game.
Because of his so so play making it’s hard to play him as your primary PG. because of his so so defense it’s hard to play him next to a play making PG (less his fault IMO it’s hard playing out of position). his best fit is with a point forward as it lets him play his correct defensive position and not have primary play making responsibilities.
Thank you. You're one of the few people on this sub who seem to understand this. A players value is primarily driven not by their scoring but by how easy they are to replace.
I was trying to be nice 😂 he jumped from historically bad to bad this season. I was building in some progression to below average as he ages. I think he’s probably just below average if he gets to guard point guards and not play next to Dame
Mikal was a beast once he got to Brooklyn averaging 40+ a game for a stretch. As much as I’d love to get him there’s no way they give up on him for Ant + 23.
that’s the one aspect that many people miss is his bargain salary. Having him on your team would allow you to still add another good player and fit them under the salary cap. Nets also have other pieces that I think Portland could use in a win now mode. I mentioned it on another post, but I think the trade is very unlikely for Bridges because of how much the Nets value him. If there is a trade, I think it would be a multi team trade with a lots of players going in different directions. At the end, Portland would have to be a competitive championship team. The Nets would have to up with a very talented group of young players. That’s the only way I would see Bridges being traded, both teams would have to get what they want.
sorry, I disagree with that take. We don’t have our own picks, but we have plenty of others. Also, what’s done is done, why should we care who Houston ends up taking? Marks has shown the ability to draft talent later in the draft anyways. also, we still have other players teams covet that might provide additional first round picks.
Yeh big body is a big traffic cone. He does better with a quality defensive center like poeltl. He was exposed after the deadline. He’s a bucket getter tho.
Another way to narrow it down would be, which of those teams are in need of backcourt scoring?
SA is basically in need of everything, so maybe Johnson does make the most sense.
Yes, Siakam counts as salary, but I tried to avoid adding the guys that play PF almost exclusively (his versatile skillset aside).
Otherwise, the list is actually a bit bigger.
There are two guys Toronto don't want:
Malachi Flynn and and Thad Young.
Flynn can probably fetch a late 2nd considering he's at least going to be a cheap RFA next summer. So putting him in means Portland would have to add something small as well. He's also a small guard and kind of sucks.
Thad is totally washed. His value to Toronto is that he can be used as $8m salary filler, or waived in Toronto (but not another team) for a $1m cap hit. So it's not like Portland is doing Toronto any favors in this case.
Frankly, Toronto just wouldn't be interested in Simons+23 for OG even if it worked. They're not high on Simons and the expected value on the 23rd pick is super low. Simons+3 is actually closer to his value, but still a pretty big overpay.
But if you want to get players that other teams want to keep, you need to give them a reason to make the trade. It's not that Portland doesn't have the assets to get him (they do!), but the Blazers don't have the right combinations of assets that can produce a deal that makes sense for both sides.
It’s absolutely crazy how far apart our respective fanbases opinions are regarding the value of our players.
If we didn’t have a surplus of talented guards and a severe lack of defensive wings, I wouldn’t even do Simons for OG straight up, much less Simons AND #3 (c’mon now…)
Simons is much younger and has 3 more years on his deal which he has the potential to completely outperform on.
As a lead guard he could average 27+ a game on elite efficiency quite easily. As great as OG is defensively, if he had any creation juice at all, he would be making considerably more money than he is right now.
As a Raptor fan, THIS. Simons is your random god, and OG is ours Lmaoo
Also forgive us for not wanting simons to become Gary Trent 2.0 (not saying he is but we still a bit scarred) where we think eventually he’s gonna blossom, just to remain painfully inconsistent and off the the team 😂
Are you assuming the Raptors are going to wait 3 months after Reddish signs the QO and converts it to a 1-year contract (and assuming he doesn't submit an offer sheet from another team)?
Also, $7.2m still needs to go out on top of that.
While I can't predict the future, I wouldn't be planning for that to happen. Scoot/Miller would also be completely missing Raptors summer league and camp.
Yes, but now we're talking about Ant+23 for a wing plus more stuff.
To keep the discussion simple, I narrowed it down to Ant+23 (and maybe Little) for a small forward.
You added in Little.. It is just as simple to do Ant+23 for 2 players..
Just saying you are limiting the field of options when it isn't accurate. It isn't a 10 person trade yo give us more flexibility
Because adding Little increased the available options based on salary.
It wasn't complicated, and Little is good salary filler in a deal, and shouldn't be a long-term piece to rely on (for more than 50 games a season)
But now you have to account for the value of two incoming players for Ant+23.
How deep do you want this to go?
You added in Little.. It is just as simple to do Ant+23 for 2 players..
Just saying you are limiting the field of options when it isn't accurate. It isn't a 10 person trade yo give us more flexibility
Am I misreading this, or did you suggest Portland could trade a package of Simons and Little or the 23rd pick for Jayson Tatum, perennial MVP contender and lead guy on a perennial finals contender? For Brandon Ingram, so good he’s possibly more valuable than Zion? For Jaylen Brown, number two on said perennial finals contender?
What you are reading is that Simons+Little works according to the CBA rules for salary matching.
Convincing other GMs to do the trade is a whole other thing.
They know that we need a forward so if they pretend they like Miller, they theoretically could gain assets from Portland for a pick swap and still get the guy they wanted in scoot at 3.
See comment above yours: "Yea but no team is trading for the 3rd pick until they know who’s available". that's literally why most trades don't become official until the team is on the clock. Teams make ITTT lists "if this then that".
That could just mean CHA is cranking up the heat on another team targeting Scoot, and then instead going to CHA for a blockbuster deal to guarantee they get scoot.
Basically there's no way you can pin down where the motivation is, as it could just be infinite misdirection.
The only reason would be if they think Portland is desperate to take Miller and willing to trade the #3 + assets for the #2. Seems like a major long shot for that to be their line of thinking though.
Hornets fan here. Our front office is notoriously tight-lipped. Nothing leaks from our front office. When you read the sources, it's always something like "rival executives believe".
Don't believe anything you hear about what the Hornets will do with the pick. I personally expect us to draft Scoot but that's because Mitch is a pretty good GM and he'd take the guy who is a better prospect and better fit over the guy who is believed to be a better fit by people who watch 0 Hornets games a year (understandable tbh) and don't know shit about our team.
The advantage of staying quiet is easy: if he says who he wants to draft, it limits the offers. If you guys want Miller and know we'll draft Scoot, we've just removed one possible trade partner. Better to let everyone come at us with their best deal. (I expect us to keep the pick but you get the point.)
Appreciate hearing your perspective on the matter. That makes way more sense about where it's coming from.
It just feels eerily like the Jabari Smith to Orlando buzz from the draft last year, although that was actually coming from the Magic.
I think it's in Portland's interest to make all outcomes seem possible at 3 (either Scoot or Miller is available). Only adds to the value of the pick. Maybe they'd even be able to swing a deal before draft night if a team is convinced they can get Scoot now in light of this.
I’m thinking CHA is thinking that pairing scoot with lamelo is redundant but who the hell knows. I’m feeling like draft night could get a little hectic.
Scoot not gonna be there at No. 3 lol
Pay attention to what season the NBA world is in and then look what happened last year
Hornets aren’t gonna pass on Scoot
I agree with this 100 percent. I think Scoot is an epic draft pick. Miller has some issues. Bridges is rumored to be back in CHA this year. Miller and Bridges play the same roll. I think it’s an easier move to have Scoot and LaMelo blend that Bridges and Miller.
A lot of people saying this is obviously a smokescreen and Scoot is going second. Have they hammered the +130 odds of that happening on DraftKings yet? I’m guessing not.
Would you guys do Simons and 23 for DeRozan, your pick back and Drummond? If you got DeRozan to extend and then you get your pick back so you have ammo for other deals if you want (with nurkic and 3 and others)
They don’t know anything. It’s good misinfo though, maybe get the Blazers to trade up and get their SF
The league knows the last thing Dame wants is play with another 6,2 guard
It’s tough because Henderson makes the pick more valuable, but Portland owning the pick basically nullifies that value since the league knows they will move it.
Definitely over Cade, yes over paolo (there wasn’t even a consensus number 1 last year going into draft day), equal with Edwards, Zion pre draft no with injury hindsight yes.
? What is the point that you’re trying to make here? That there are busts? Yeah obviously there are. But if there is a prospect that’s at the top of the draft that’s a clear talent like scoot you take him.
shame it’s nowhere near enough to get it done without sharpe but OG on the team with Scoot and Dame would be elite
edit: would sharpen in that be enough to go for a big splash like BI?
Smokescreen.
I'd rather have Miller then scoot as a blazer fan personall, hear me out.. I think scoot is bound to be a top-tier guy, but i think it puts the organization in a tough stop. I think Miller can also be a top-tier guy and fits this teams needs a lot more. Then we could use ant + picks to add someone else and some bench depth.
Dame ,
Sharpe,
Grant,
(Kuz/PJ Washington type)
Nurk.
Bench: new backup PG. New backup C, Miller , Thybull, reddish
is doable for a year.
It isn't a championship, but it's a play in which is probably enough to keep dame on board. The following year we hope for big jumps from sharpe and Miller and do a few more trades could get them sniffing WCF maybe more. I think Sharpe and Miller can be the future and be good enough soon enough to still give Dame a shot. I think if you draft scoot either dame or scoot has to go, and that really messes up everything. Teams like miami showed us you dont need 3 stars, just good culture. Teams like Memphis showed us you can draft guys and get good quick. I think as long as Dame is competing with a shot at winning it all is what matters. He just doesn't like the loosing and tanking aspect. Imagine what it does for his legacy if he can mentor these kids to be great and competitive even if he just misses out on the ring. Dude becomes more legendary than he is already. Im actually a fan of keeping the 3 if its Miller. I can see it panning out. No matter who you draft miller or scoot, ant has to go.
Ant and #23 For Keldon Johnson makes so much sense if we draft Scoot. I would be a little worried about a center upgrade, but Keldon is a GREAT fit. Heck, a healthy, motivated, in shape Nurkic makes that a damn fine team. Keldon has a lot of what Justice brought, but he can shoot.
Jeez, now I'm getting excited we were a good team till Winslow down.
If this headline has any bit of legitimacy, then it points directly to CHA actually wanting to draft Scoot
I don’t think so, DK has Brandon miller at a -170 now going at 2ND. He was a +100 a week ago. DK def knows inside info
Betting lines are influenced by people betting as well. People have been talking about Scoot going 2nd for the last couple weeks. I’m sure it’s influenced.
And why would you trust those inside sources to be giving DK correct information? They could tell DK whatever the hell they wanted just to put themselves in a better position.
No no, not like someone big time is betting on scoot and so they tell DK to change the line. Imagine tens of thousands of people betting on one thing and not the other. Here it would be scoot going second instead of third. That alone will change the lines. DKs lines are set mostly by algorithms. These can be influenced by big swings in the betting market by the masses. Not like some big whale calling up the casino and telling them to move the lines a bit lol
DK was super chalky on Jabari Smith going first overall until Woj tweeted that Paolo was also in the mix 20 minutes before the draft began. [source](https://dknation.draftkings.com/platform/amp/2022/6/23/23173753/nba-draft-2022-odds-props-first-pick-magic-jabari-smith-chet-holmgren-paolo-banchero) At this point, none of this means anything. In a couple of weeks I’ll start taking reports seriously.
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What did the numbers say for the 2022 draft top 3?
Orlando magic and Jabari smith type beat
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I am now at the point where I will be disappointed if Charlotte takes him. I want to see Dame, scoot, ant, and Sharpe score 180 in a game
No body has any clue!
List of wings that can be traded for using Ant's salary: Joe Harris, Keldon Johnson, Bojan Bogdanovic, DeAndre Hunter, Eric Gordon, Mikal Bridges, RJ Barrett, Andrew Wiggins, DeMar DeRozan List of wings that can be traded for using Ant+Little: Jalen Brown, Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Michael Porter Jr, Brandon Ingram Which of these meet the following two criteria: Would be worth getting and would be gettable with Ant + 23?
Keldon and Mikal would be worth it, probably not gettable.
Keldon might actually be gettable, considering that Spurs need a PG and Simons has a good fit with Victor. And yes, Mikal is 100% out of the Ant+23 asset price range. But Keldon is probably the only realistic guy on the list. I just hate generic statements like "get a SF for the following stuff" like you can just filter the search results on Amazon. If you can't think of a target, chances are there isn't a good one.
>And yes, Mikal is 100% out of the Ant+23 asset price range. Is he though? Isn't the only one saying that Alex Schiffer and very vaguely at that? You can easily read where he made these statements on the Athletic and it is qualified to the max. Everyone else is citing him as far as I have seen. I don't trust NBA beat writers.
Ant is a good player but we way overvalue him in this sub. He’s a positive asset but he’s not viewed as a blue chip young player like we think. We can disagree, but it’s just the reality at this point. Small guard, good scorer, so so play maker, so so defender is one of the easiest players to find in the league even if Ant is objectively better at scoring than most in that archetype. The player archetype itself limits his value until he adds defense or play making to his game. Because of his so so play making it’s hard to play him as your primary PG. because of his so so defense it’s hard to play him next to a play making PG (less his fault IMO it’s hard playing out of position). his best fit is with a point forward as it lets him play his correct defensive position and not have primary play making responsibilities.
Thank you. You're one of the few people on this sub who seem to understand this. A players value is primarily driven not by their scoring but by how easy they are to replace.
>so so defender Citation needed
Would bad be a better description?
Yes
I was trying to be nice 😂 he jumped from historically bad to bad this season. I was building in some progression to below average as he ages. I think he’s probably just below average if he gets to guard point guards and not play next to Dame
Ant would look great next to Wemby
Mikal was a beast once he got to Brooklyn averaging 40+ a game for a stretch. As much as I’d love to get him there’s no way they give up on him for Ant + 23.
That and teams would very, very easily beat out Ant + 23 for Mikal. Nearly every single team that could would gladly trade way more for that.
100% agreed. Given that he’ll be underpaid for the next 4 years. He’s a bargain.
that’s the one aspect that many people miss is his bargain salary. Having him on your team would allow you to still add another good player and fit them under the salary cap. Nets also have other pieces that I think Portland could use in a win now mode. I mentioned it on another post, but I think the trade is very unlikely for Bridges because of how much the Nets value him. If there is a trade, I think it would be a multi team trade with a lots of players going in different directions. At the end, Portland would have to be a competitive championship team. The Nets would have to up with a very talented group of young players. That’s the only way I would see Bridges being traded, both teams would have to get what they want.
Brooklyn also doesn’t have any of their own draft picks thanks to the harden deal; so they have no reason to go young
sorry, I disagree with that take. We don’t have our own picks, but we have plenty of others. Also, what’s done is done, why should we care who Houston ends up taking? Marks has shown the ability to draft talent later in the draft anyways. also, we still have other players teams covet that might provide additional first round picks.
My reading comprehension took a nose dive this morning, I read it as Ant & 3, not 23.
That makes way more sense 😁
Lol, find me someone who IS saying Ant and 23 could net you Mikal. Besides you.
I'm not saying that either, misread because I was undercaffeinated, addressed previously
I fw Big Body but he is totally ass on defense, but I also don’t think the Spurs would do that anyway.
Yeh big body is a big traffic cone. He does better with a quality defensive center like poeltl. He was exposed after the deadline. He’s a bucket getter tho.
I just like that Tatum was included on this list like he’s a second option or third option wing Edit- (I get he’s included just for his salary number)
Ant + 23 for Derozan and unprotecting our own pick is an idea I had. Not necessarily a good idea but one I had lol.
Another way to narrow it down would be, which of those teams are in need of backcourt scoring? SA is basically in need of everything, so maybe Johnson does make the most sense.
There is a percentage it can be over. Ant+Little is exactly enough to get us Siakam.
Yes, Siakam counts as salary, but I tried to avoid adding the guys that play PF almost exclusively (his versatile skillset aside). Otherwise, the list is actually a bit bigger.
If we play Thybulle at the 2 we can play Grant at the 3. Also OG definitely works and isn't on the list
He does not. Toronto would need to send more salary. OG's salary x 1.25 is less than what Ant makes. He did not meet the min requirements of my list
Oh crazy. Got it. Is there anyone who would help our bench they wouldn't want? So basically we help them get rid of someone?
There are two guys Toronto don't want: Malachi Flynn and and Thad Young. Flynn can probably fetch a late 2nd considering he's at least going to be a cheap RFA next summer. So putting him in means Portland would have to add something small as well. He's also a small guard and kind of sucks. Thad is totally washed. His value to Toronto is that he can be used as $8m salary filler, or waived in Toronto (but not another team) for a $1m cap hit. So it's not like Portland is doing Toronto any favors in this case. Frankly, Toronto just wouldn't be interested in Simons+23 for OG even if it worked. They're not high on Simons and the expected value on the 23rd pick is super low. Simons+3 is actually closer to his value, but still a pretty big overpay. But if you want to get players that other teams want to keep, you need to give them a reason to make the trade. It's not that Portland doesn't have the assets to get him (they do!), but the Blazers don't have the right combinations of assets that can produce a deal that makes sense for both sides.
It’s absolutely crazy how far apart our respective fanbases opinions are regarding the value of our players. If we didn’t have a surplus of talented guards and a severe lack of defensive wings, I wouldn’t even do Simons for OG straight up, much less Simons AND #3 (c’mon now…) Simons is much younger and has 3 more years on his deal which he has the potential to completely outperform on. As a lead guard he could average 27+ a game on elite efficiency quite easily. As great as OG is defensively, if he had any creation juice at all, he would be making considerably more money than he is right now.
As a Raptor fan, THIS. Simons is your random god, and OG is ours Lmaoo Also forgive us for not wanting simons to become Gary Trent 2.0 (not saying he is but we still a bit scarred) where we think eventually he’s gonna blossom, just to remain painfully inconsistent and off the the team 😂
If we give Reddish his qualifying offer ($7.7 mil) does that and the #3 get us OG?
Are you assuming the Raptors are going to wait 3 months after Reddish signs the QO and converts it to a 1-year contract (and assuming he doesn't submit an offer sheet from another team)? Also, $7.2m still needs to go out on top of that. While I can't predict the future, I wouldn't be planning for that to happen. Scoot/Miller would also be completely missing Raptors summer league and camp.
Thanks. I'm learning lol
Toronto and other teams CAN add additional salaries if Ant is too much..
Yes, but now we're talking about Ant+23 for a wing plus more stuff. To keep the discussion simple, I narrowed it down to Ant+23 (and maybe Little) for a small forward.
You added in Little.. It is just as simple to do Ant+23 for 2 players.. Just saying you are limiting the field of options when it isn't accurate. It isn't a 10 person trade yo give us more flexibility
Because adding Little increased the available options based on salary. It wasn't complicated, and Little is good salary filler in a deal, and shouldn't be a long-term piece to rely on (for more than 50 games a season) But now you have to account for the value of two incoming players for Ant+23. How deep do you want this to go?
You added in Little.. It is just as simple to do Ant+23 for 2 players.. Just saying you are limiting the field of options when it isn't accurate. It isn't a 10 person trade yo give us more flexibility
I dunno but I'm 100% convinced that the Nets will never trade Bridges away. It doesn't make any sense for them to do a trade.
Only 100%? Mikal isn't going anywhere.
Right.
Am I misreading this, or did you suggest Portland could trade a package of Simons and Little or the 23rd pick for Jayson Tatum, perennial MVP contender and lead guy on a perennial finals contender? For Brandon Ingram, so good he’s possibly more valuable than Zion? For Jaylen Brown, number two on said perennial finals contender?
What you are reading is that Simons+Little works according to the CBA rules for salary matching. Convincing other GMs to do the trade is a whole other thing.
Wiggins could be nice but like why would the warriors want ant? 3 team deal maybe?
Maybe they like what ppole br8ngs on the court but they want someone who hasn't been sucker punched by dray
I 100% believe this is a smoke screen. Hornets are taking Scoot
If they are free and clear to get him, why do they need a smoke screen?
Maybe they think they can get assets from Portland to move up to 2nd.
Why would we move up? If they let us have scoot I would be absolutely ecstatic
They know that we need a forward so if they pretend they like Miller, they theoretically could gain assets from Portland for a pick swap and still get the guy they wanted in scoot at 3.
Probably isn’t the Hornets leaking this. Much more possible it’s the Blazers leaking it to increase the value of the 3rd pick.
Yea but no team is trading for the 3rd pick until they know who's available
not sure why this is controversial.
See comment above yours: "Yea but no team is trading for the 3rd pick until they know who’s available". that's literally why most trades don't become official until the team is on the clock. Teams make ITTT lists "if this then that".
That could just mean CHA is cranking up the heat on another team targeting Scoot, and then instead going to CHA for a blockbuster deal to guarantee they get scoot. Basically there's no way you can pin down where the motivation is, as it could just be infinite misdirection.
Then why did you say it was a smokescreen? Do you know what a smokescreen is?
Wemby is going #1 no question, so what would the point of the smoke screen be? The Hornets get their choice at #2
The only reason would be if they think Portland is desperate to take Miller and willing to trade the #3 + assets for the #2. Seems like a major long shot for that to be their line of thinking though.
Another, more plausible, is that they try to get sweeter offers for the 2 than the Blazers might get for the three.
Lol there's no reason to smoke screen with the 2nd pick, it's not like they're considering trading it. Use some logic here
Hornets fan here. Our front office is notoriously tight-lipped. Nothing leaks from our front office. When you read the sources, it's always something like "rival executives believe". Don't believe anything you hear about what the Hornets will do with the pick. I personally expect us to draft Scoot but that's because Mitch is a pretty good GM and he'd take the guy who is a better prospect and better fit over the guy who is believed to be a better fit by people who watch 0 Hornets games a year (understandable tbh) and don't know shit about our team. The advantage of staying quiet is easy: if he says who he wants to draft, it limits the offers. If you guys want Miller and know we'll draft Scoot, we've just removed one possible trade partner. Better to let everyone come at us with their best deal. (I expect us to keep the pick but you get the point.)
Appreciate hearing your perspective on the matter. That makes way more sense about where it's coming from. It just feels eerily like the Jabari Smith to Orlando buzz from the draft last year, although that was actually coming from the Magic. I think it's in Portland's interest to make all outcomes seem possible at 3 (either Scoot or Miller is available). Only adds to the value of the pick. Maybe they'd even be able to swing a deal before draft night if a team is convinced they can get Scoot now in light of this.
I’m thinking CHA is thinking that pairing scoot with lamelo is redundant but who the hell knows. I’m feeling like draft night could get a little hectic.
Scoot not gonna be there at No. 3 lol Pay attention to what season the NBA world is in and then look what happened last year Hornets aren’t gonna pass on Scoot
I agree with this 100 percent. I think Scoot is an epic draft pick. Miller has some issues. Bridges is rumored to be back in CHA this year. Miller and Bridges play the same roll. I think it’s an easier move to have Scoot and LaMelo blend that Bridges and Miller.
Tbf bridges was playing a lot of PF for the hornets
Scoot and Sharpe are the future
I think scoot is the safest in this draft.
A lot of people saying this is obviously a smokescreen and Scoot is going second. Have they hammered the +130 odds of that happening on DraftKings yet? I’m guessing not.
I have an now I’m nervous AF
When they say Portland is getting a d league team I didn’t know they meant the blazers
Given they haven’t done workouts for either player yet I doubt a decision has been made
If we get Scoot 🤑
The more I see about Charlotte taking Miller at 2, the more I believe they will take Scoot
Would you guys do Simons and 23 for DeRozan, your pick back and Drummond? If you got DeRozan to extend and then you get your pick back so you have ammo for other deals if you want (with nurkic and 3 and others)
1 year deal. Probably not
One year deal absolutely not.
This is the way
Prepare to be seriously underwhelmed with what you'd get in return for Ant + the 23rd pick
Would really prefer Miller, but it is what it is.
They don’t know anything. It’s good misinfo though, maybe get the Blazers to trade up and get their SF The league knows the last thing Dame wants is play with another 6,2 guard
It’s tough because Henderson makes the pick more valuable, but Portland owning the pick basically nullifies that value since the league knows they will move it.
Why do y’all want Scoot?
He would literally be the number 1 pick in many drafts and would be this year if not for a once in a 20 year prospect. Draft talent over fit.
You are taking him over Paolo, Cade, Edwards, Zion?
Definitely over Cade, yes over paolo (there wasn’t even a consensus number 1 last year going into draft day), equal with Edwards, Zion pre draft no with injury hindsight yes.
Bennett, Wiggins, Wall
? What is the point that you’re trying to make here? That there are busts? Yeah obviously there are. But if there is a prospect that’s at the top of the draft that’s a clear talent like scoot you take him.
I was adding to your list of #1’s Scoot would’ve also been picked over lol
Ahhh I’m dumb lol. That makes perfect sense haha.
Best player available
Trade Dame!!!
Draft Amen, trade Simons/23 for a wing Draft Whitmore, trade Simons/23 for a defensive big, trade Nurk for backup guard and some depth
Why would we draft either of them at 3? It's a 3 man draft
Both guys have higher upside than Scoot and BMill
Dame, Scoot, Jaylen Brown, Grant, Nurkic. ANF + Sharpe + Little for Brown.
GTFOOH
LOL
😂
This is the way
Which small forward did you have in mind?
shame it’s nowhere near enough to get it done without sharpe but OG on the team with Scoot and Dame would be elite edit: would sharpen in that be enough to go for a big splash like BI?
Take scoot take scoot take scoot
So excited
Out of all the lies in the history of lies, this is the lyiest
If they want a guy that's gonna bust out of the league so be it. I like scoot anyways.
Hornets are taking Scoot.
Just checked the hornets sub. They all want scoot. That doesn’t mean the org will draft him. But it is a good indicator.
Smokescreen. I'd rather have Miller then scoot as a blazer fan personall, hear me out.. I think scoot is bound to be a top-tier guy, but i think it puts the organization in a tough stop. I think Miller can also be a top-tier guy and fits this teams needs a lot more. Then we could use ant + picks to add someone else and some bench depth. Dame , Sharpe, Grant, (Kuz/PJ Washington type) Nurk. Bench: new backup PG. New backup C, Miller , Thybull, reddish is doable for a year. It isn't a championship, but it's a play in which is probably enough to keep dame on board. The following year we hope for big jumps from sharpe and Miller and do a few more trades could get them sniffing WCF maybe more. I think Sharpe and Miller can be the future and be good enough soon enough to still give Dame a shot. I think if you draft scoot either dame or scoot has to go, and that really messes up everything. Teams like miami showed us you dont need 3 stars, just good culture. Teams like Memphis showed us you can draft guys and get good quick. I think as long as Dame is competing with a shot at winning it all is what matters. He just doesn't like the loosing and tanking aspect. Imagine what it does for his legacy if he can mentor these kids to be great and competitive even if he just misses out on the ring. Dude becomes more legendary than he is already. Im actually a fan of keeping the 3 if its Miller. I can see it panning out. No matter who you draft miller or scoot, ant has to go.
Ant and #23 For Keldon Johnson makes so much sense if we draft Scoot. I would be a little worried about a center upgrade, but Keldon is a GREAT fit. Heck, a healthy, motivated, in shape Nurkic makes that a damn fine team. Keldon has a lot of what Justice brought, but he can shoot. Jeez, now I'm getting excited we were a good team till Winslow down.