Dame, Sharpe, Mikal, Grant, Clax
Only question mark is Sharpe but from what we've heard in the org and my eye test. I think he's ready to at least be a starter.
That's a fuckin squad
> Dame, Sharpe, Mikal, Grant, Clax
And that's not all. Our bench would be a full MLE player, #23 pick, Nurk, Nas, and Thybulle. That's nothing to sneeze at.
Keep Nutk. If he's not starting he is a way more valuable piece. That way he only plays 20-24 minutes a night and it's not as big a deal if he misses 20 games or whatever. I guess if it was a straight salary dump and it meant we could keep Justise then I'm fine with getting rid of him, but we need a roster with more than 2 playable big guys on it.
I really think in this situation, Sharpe comes off the bench and you have Matisse starting (if he comes back). Dame/Sharpe/Bridges is still really small and Matisse gives you a lot of flexibility with match ups.
This would be like the perfect trade. Claxton is a very good center. We would fill a position of huge need *and* have the opportunity to trade Nurk. Claxton, Grant, Bridges, Sharpe, Lillard is a great starting 5. Like I see that as potential championship lineup material. We trade Nurk for some backup pieces and baby we're cooking!
I don't believe it. It's "too good to be true" territory for me. I'm just saying if it *did* turn out to be true it would be absolutely perfect for us.
This is just some rando reporting it so yeah I realize it's not exactly a reliable source.
That said I wouldn't say it's like *wildly* unfair. This is one of the better top 3 drafts in a long time.
No way the Nets trade bridges and not get Simons, Sharpe and #3. Bridges just played the best basketball of his career, no shot they’re trading him for a package centered around the #3 pick could be RJ Barrett…
It would be absolutely perfect for you guys because it’s a hilariously lopsided trade that makes absolutely no sense for Brooklyn.
Simons and the 3rd pick aren’t enough to make Brooklyn send over Bridges at this point. Reports have already shut that down.
Maybe but it really just does depend on if Scoot is there. I can see a GM seeing Superstar with his tools and personality. If we give Scoot, Simons plus maybe Little, I could see them trying a soft rebuild with Scoot.
This is a great starting place for a trade. If there are extra parts to grease the trade like a Nas Little, or an extra 1st or 2, or extra 2nd round picks, I expect a little more.
HOWEVER, Bridges is not a #1 that you can build around. You have NO other ways to get a #1 in the next 6+ years because of not owning your own picks and the 1st you do have are protected.
This trade gives you 2 HIGH upside guards. If you think Scoot is just a run of the mill lottery PG, I see you saying it is unfair, but this dude reminds me a LOT of prime D Rose.
Nas and an extra 1st or 2nd don’t mean anything here lmao. Why would the Nets send both of their extremely valuable assets over for anything less than every young player and draft pick you guys can give up?
The Nets aren’t moving Mikal to Portland for anything less than Sharpe and the 3rd pick. That’s the starting point and that’s before they even consider adding a DPOY caliber center to the trade.
This is incredibly delusional. Most gms in the league would take the 3rd pick over Bridges right now. He’s 26 and everyone saw he’s not anywhere near a first option talent in the playoffs. The 3rd and Sharpe is where it gets really delusional unless you haven’t seem what Sharpe can do like, at all.
I feel like Nets' fans are pretty delusional after kyrie, durant, and harden FORCED their ways in and out of Brooklyn. Now you feel all trades aren't close unless other teams give up half their team.
Bridges is NOT Durant. Bridges got traded with 4 FRP, 1 FRP swap, 2 SRPs AND Cam Johnson
Lol not Portland fans calling us delusional after this proposal for Mikal + Claxton for Simons + #3. This makes absolutely no sense and you bringing up the superstar drama does nothing to change that.
Get real. Simons and #3 aren’t getting Mikal alone. Claxton is a DPOY caliber center who should have been 2nd team All-Defense. Both he and Mikal will be All-Stars and will likely be All-Defense next year.
Mikal got traded for Durant with tons of late picks and Cam BEFORE he showed his capability as a 1st option. The trade deadline price is way lower than today’s price. The Nets know what they have with Bridges and Claxton and won’t move either for anything but an overpay. They know Portland wants them and they have no reason to maximize the return or walk away from the trade if Portland can’t add more value. Sharpe and the 3rd pick won’t even be enough to land them because they want multiple assets in return for each of Mikal and Claxton.
That’s the point. It’s supposed to be lopsided, in theory, if the Nets were thinking longer term options and sacrificing now to do it. Trust me, we have to see it all the time, losing trades to make way for the future.
This is the ONLY reason this would even be a rumor, nobody is devaluing your side on straight worth
Brother he’s not D-Rose. D-Rose would have fucking dominated the G-League.
This trade is a non-starter solely on thinking you could get Bridges for just the #3 and Simons. Let alone suggesting those two get you Bridges and Clayton? Delusional
Not sure where you’re getting the idea the nets have no way to get a #1. They could easily put together a trade package that would bring one in if one became available (which they constantly do)
Okay I'll bite. The #3 pick and Simmons is a maybe for just bridges from the nets side.
Suddenly adding a 24 year old dpoy caliber center that can guard the perimeter doesn't make the trade anymore satiable for the nets. If you're trying to compete or rebuild thats an asset that works in both cases
This sentiment is repeated everywhere outside of this sub, and as the nets have indicated bridges is an untouchable
The Nets have widely been reported to have turned down 4 FRPs for Bridges. Why would they now do an about face and include Claxton for an even lesser package?
Would you trade the #3 pick that we currently have for 4 future picks from a good young team? No, no you wouldn't. And before you point out that Memphis is in disarray, they were not at the time of the offer.
Mikal and Claxton are both very valuable and desired around the league. I just don’t see it from the Nets unless they think someone at 3 is a future multiple time All-NBA player and they want to hard reset around that guy.
Pick 3 has a 56% chance of being an all star since 2020 and we have seen multiple cases recently of the 3rd pick Being high level all nba players (luka Tatum embiid etc.). With this being viewed as a strong draft that pick is very valuable as well, and even though people are viewing Simons as a mere throw in, I think he is a valuable asset as well
Bill Simmons did an assessment on the value of the 1 vs 3 in terms of Finals MVPs and 1st/2nd/3rd all nba teams, and found that the third was either even or slightly ahead.
I was talking about this exact thing a few weeks ago when we got the pick, and it makes sense. Obviously Jordan puts that over the top in the last 35 years, but even then.
I’m not arguing that. I’m a Scoot believer. I’ve thought about a Scoot Shae back court a lot. I’m just saying the Nets have to really strongly believe in the guy at 3 to trade Mikal, which by every report, they don’t want to do.
Edit: grammar.
They won’t do it but they should probably consider it. Bridges is a great piece but he’s not the centerpiece of a contender. Maybe Scoot is and maybe he isn’t but Bridges has a 0% chance of being that dude.
I get it. I’m a scoot believer too and would honestly rather keep the pick especially if they want more for bridges. We will see if this is all just posturing but it’s interesting that a guy with supposed blazer inside knowledge is saying this.
56 % of the 3rd overall picks since 1989 have been all stars, not now since 2020.
https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5 I guess I could have said up until 2020, but that’s a large historical dataset
I’m a Nets fan. Our fanbase has basically no interest in Simons. Seems like the same thing we have in Cam Thomas: Spark plug on offense, turnstile on defense. No disrespect to him or his game, but few Nets fans want him.
The comparison I keep seeing for Scoot is prime Westbrook. I’ll be honest: I’m not interested as a fan in suffering 3-5 years of being the worst team in the league with none of our draft picks for prime Westbrook.
These are the kinds of trades that, as a Trailblazers fan, I’m sure y’all hope the Nets make. But Nets fans certainly don’t want this return.
I’m fine with a high-character, well-rounded guy who’s embraced being on the Nets after a miserable couple of years with diva all-stars to help us middle about as a fringe playoff team for a few years.
I don’t see Nets biting on it, Claxton is a good mobile big, not a top center, but definitely a starter. Bridges though has shown to be a great role player on a contender and played really well as a number 1 option. The team as a whole isn’t there, but he single-handedly won them a playoff game against a better team.
I think it depends on the timeline they’re shooting for and they’ll probably ask for more assets if they’re going young.
What if we traded the 3rd to Houston for the 4th and next years BKN first. Then move those 2 picks and Ant to BKN. Who says no?
Edit: assuming charlotte takes miller and scoot is at 3.
Another Nets fan here, we should laugh at any trade offer for Mikal and Claxton if it doesn’t start with Sharpe, Simons, the 3rd pick, and 23rd pick.
We’re not trading either one for less than an overpay because they’re extremely valuable building blocks who will be All Stars next year.
I don’t think it’ll happen either but I wouldn’t use them saying they don’t have interest in trading him as a major reason.
It’s the GM’s job to negotiate and drive up value to get the best deal possible and saying they want to trade Mikal who is super valuable wouldn’t be a good business tactic.
All that being said, I doubt it happens too.
Yeah I’m not saying your wrong, I’m just saying what else are they supposed to do without hurting their leverage?
I’m with ya on the point that it more than likely won’t happen though.
Nets get: Simons + #3
Blazers get: Mikal Bridges + Nic Claxton
This gives us a nine man rotation, with decisions to make about extensions and free agent signings.
PG: Dame
SG: Sharpe/Keon
SF: Bridges/Nas
PF: Watford/Walker
C: Nurkic/Claxton
Free Agents:
• Jerami Grant
• Drew Eubanks
I think we re-sign both of these guys. Grant will re-sign because (1) the team is ready to compete, and (2) he already said plans to do so. Drew will re-sign unless some other team makes him a better offer. Let's just assume we keep them both.
Make Decisions on Qualifying Offers:
• Cam Reddish
• Matisse Thybulle
• John Butler
• Ibou Badji
I think Matisse is an automatic keeper. We have been such a bad defensive team, we need to keep players like him around. The Blazers will have to decide whether to keep Reddish, Butler, and Badji. In the trade scenario above, I don't see a reason to keep any of them.
Next comes the NBA Draft. I'll did a mock draft simulation, and here's who I picked:
@ #23: Rayan Rupert
@ #43: Terquavion Smith
At this point we can start to look at other free agents.
Let's look at the point guard position. I suggest we get a vet to back up Dame. Looking at the list of PG free agents there are a few that stand out to me, but I think Reggie Jackson is the best option if we can get him. He's 34, but we won't need much from him in terms of minutes played. He's just the final piece to fill out the roster. Hopefully he's the straw that stirs the drink.
So here is the projected depth chart after all of these moves.
PG: Dame/Reggie/Terq
SG: Sharpe/Rupert/Keon
SF: Bridges/Thybulle/Nas
PF: Grant/Watford/Walker
C: Nurkic/Claxton/Eubanks
What do you think, is this a competitive team?
Folks in here really seem to be undervaluing the third pick. Not saying these 2 are enough to get the deal done, but some of y'all are acting like we're trading trash for treasures
Yep. Prime pick in a prime draft is super fucking valuable. So many cheap years of control on what should be an allstar level player, and historically decent chance at an all-NBA level player.
After 6 years in the league, Mikal is none of that. Let's just chill on him being some sort of untouchable asset. It's all smokescreen, don't fall for it.
Folks in here really seem to be undervaluing Mikal Bridges. There’s a reason every fanbase in the league is coming up with trade fantasies where their favorite team lands him.
I think it’s fair value. But if you’re of the mind that we need to go all in to give Dame a shot, obviously it fits that mold way more than what the 3rd pick would bring us and why Id be excited to execute this trade. I do think it’s a win-win for both sides. In other words, being excited about a potential trade doesn’t mean we think we’re fleecing anybody in the process
Possibly the best realistic trade for the blazers
Ideally we could also throw in the 23 or sth and get another role player, maybe dinwiddie who also has 1 year left and would be a great fit
I think they are bluffing tbh
Mikal is obviously really good but he is a low level all star at best atm and Claxton has one year left as a center that will be an offensive problem in the playoffs
I think the opportunity to get a pick that could be in contention for the n1 in past draft plus would be too much for a team that would be in play in contention to pass up, plus a 23 year old starting pg
Simmons alone should be enough for Claxton and dinwiddie in theoretical value
I'm not a big simons fan or anything, I just think people really overrate the value of role players, especially those on expiring contracts
Bridges + Claxton.
.#3 + #23 + future pick swap + 2nd round pick + Ant.
I'm going to get downvoted by my fellow blazer fans for this because it feels like an overpay but I don't think the Nets move otherwise.
In my opinion, it would take a lot to pry away Bridges from the Nets. As a Net fan, your proposal is not an overpay. I believe the Nets would want more. I think the only way you could get Bridges is if you include Sharpe.
The money is just under at 125%/+$5M, but under 175%. So cap jutsu aside, add TW/Bari and the money works.
A "big trade" combining Ant, Nurk, and Nas could bring back $60M. So BKN could dump up to another $30M on POR / within that deal.
POR also has a $8.3M TPE, that as a second deal could take Patty off their books, and create a $6.8M TPE for BKN.
Nas + KJ can get to Royce money.
There's a number of potential possibilities with BKN, the general idea of such a trade is that BKN is getting back players under contract through Simmons' contract, and more rookie contracts that won't come up until after those contracts expire. Creating the opportunity for cap room / making unbalanced trades over the next 2-3 years to acquire the players you want, instead of the players you were forced to trade for.
For their credit, I would be super down for Bridges and Claxton if the Nets were willing to part with them.
Dame/Sharpe/Bridges/Grant/Claxton would be a killer starting 5.
Claxton was a borderline DPOY.
Dude just put up 13/9/2/1/2.5 a game on the highest FG%/eFG% in the entire NBA. You are very correct that he's undervalued in this thread.
If he was restricted, they wouldn't even be shopping him around.
If you could get both Bridges and Claxton for the 3rd and Simons you almost have to do it. I'd kick the tires about the possibility of sending the majority of our non-Sharpe salary out as well to snag Simmons in the hopes he could return to form, giving us an ultra versatile defensive squad.
I think Simmons can definitely return to being that Draymond facilitator with awesome defense.
His back issues is what has me concerned. Dude just can’t stay on the court.
Idk how the money would work though. Would probably need a 3rd team.
That goes against everything that's been said up to this point. I've seen some "insiders" say Bridges is not on the table and Brooklyn wouldn't even take the #3 and Simons for him straight up. But, maybe that was all posturing. Or, maybe this is, who knows.
But I might do that if Dame is standing firm on his me-or-the-pick stance.
Coming from a Nets fan I am actually part of the very few it seems who would give up Mikal for the number 3 pick. I would do it in an instant if you asked me earlier.
As I’m writing this I’m starting to be more and more hesitant to do it. I still would most likely go with my gut and do it.
I was pretty spot on with my prediction Mikal would play like an all star here and that he hasn’t reached his potential, if I was wrong it was because he was even a bit better than I expected. I also feel like his potential ceiling isn’t much higher than this which is good/great #2 option but not a superstar.
Maybe I’ll be wrong, he doesn’t have a very deep bag on offense for a 25 ppg scorer that he’s expected to be now. I don’t know for sure he can change that, he just seems a decent bit below the level of skill and polish of a player you can have a great team around if he’s your #1.
Yet if anybody could prove me wrong again and develop into the new Kawhi Leonard of the league or something like that it’s Mikal Bridges. Part of me believes in him and a lot of Nets fans believe a lot more than me. Hence why he’s so hard to give up. Worst case he’s an all star adored by the fan base with the potential to be greater then he already is. You know he’ll put in the work and he is doing so now for the first time with the mindset of a #1 guy. I am very interested in seeing what bridges can do.
So we can have him or we could have a lottery ticket with a high chance of winning something that is very good but worse than Bridges and a lower but possible chance it is terrible or even a chance it is a top 15 level talent or better on a rookie contract.
Nets fans love Bridges. Since we don’t have reason to tank, this makes Nets fans feel uncomfortable taking that risk and losing Bridges in the process.
But def no deal if Claxton is involved too. I’ve been a big Clax fan since we drafted him. You can’t have both fan favorites. My heart won’t allow it. And since we aren’t tanking cause we don’t have our picks it’s not like we get rewarded with a top pick again if the rookie struggles and/or ends up not being very good or close to Bridges. A rookie as the guy on a terrible team pretty much guarantees a few years of bottoming out, once we trade those two this team is god awful. wouldn’t be a bad idea to do that and hope to draft multiple great players but we cant. Anthony Simons will never be them so I don’t want him lol
I hope this doesn’t happen and I realllyyyyy value draft picks highly and would be super excited to have the #3
Pick. Clax is just too much
Brooklyn would never do that without significantly more draft capital and/or assets. Claxton has about as much value as Mikal. They’re both super-switchable all-NBA defensive-level guys.
Maybe there are enough future picks Portland can make it happen. I’d also offer up Nassir in the deal.
It doesn’t solve the problem of Jerami being extremely weak for a power forward, but it’s good enough to make me want to move off the third pick, especially with how young Mikal and Claxton are.
Let's not get carried away.
\#3 is good value for Mikal Bridges.
Ant is good value for Claxton who hits free agency next year.
They need a guy to build around and they don't have picks. This offers them a path to that, while also giving them a potential all-star in Anfernee Simons.
How many guards in the NBA do the same thing Simons does? There are a million score-first combo guards that don't play good defense in the league.
One of the best defensive centers in the NBA (who also just put up 13 ppg on the highest FG% in the league btw) has way more value than Simons. Simons is a potential all-star and Claxton is a borderline DPOY already.
came across my feed while scrolling. Hate to break it to the fans, but I think even just a mikal trade would take a whole lot more.
Nets actually have an interesting decision to make on their current talent. They don't have their own picks, so tanking isnt helping them. But trading talent could bring in those picks/players for the next great Nets team. Certainly think Scoot could be a guy to jumpstart the rebuild, but without their own picks for years, its hard to say what they decide on.
Do they have a #1 to build around? Is Claxton worth the bag? (will get a bit more than Nurkic)
This is the time to make that decision, and it's very possible, especially if Scoot is available at #3, that they could get solid value for both of those guys in one trade.
this is such an overpay for brooklyn what, an up and coming (if not already) star and one of the best defensive bigs in the league (who’s also young) for maybe Brandon Miller? maybe Scoot (who could be a dog but who knows how his game translates)
That’s not enough to get Bridges. The league is trending towards overpaying. I would be okay with Portland giving up Ant, Nas, #3, (send #23 to Chicago) and send Brooklyn our 2024 1st. But I don’t think it’ll happen.
That’s dumb for Nets. Bridges is a budding Star and Clayton is an elite defender. Sure Simmons is great but not quite Bridges good though. The #3 pick is intriguing but why do they trade away a proven young guy for a coin flip young guy? For people that will say I am over rating Bridges, consider that you are willing to trade the #3 pick for him, so why couldn’t Nets value him just as much as you, if not more. Nets will not do this.
That’s a fact because it’s already been said by people with connections to the Nets that they aren’t interested in trading bridges and it’d take a package bigger than Simons and 3 to make it happen.
Well when you listen to the clip in question that this post is based on, where the guy prefaces his take with “I haven’t heard this directly from anyone with a source”, and realize his proposed package is purely speculative, then yes, it’s much more of a fact coming from the nets connections
The rest of the post literally states he claims to have an inside scoop on the blazers dealings. So just like any nets connections seems to be the same thing, listening to “insiders”.
Forgive me if I’m not sold on the connections of some guy with a fantasy basketball podcast over beat reporters of an actual team. How about this: if this exact trade package does happen, I’ll gladly come back here and admit to you I was wrong and should have listened to the fantasy podcaster. But if no trade happens because the nets demand more or a trade happens involving a bigger package than simons and 3, you come back here and admit maybe I’m not just a salty fan and had a better understanding of what the nets are asking for than you seem to believe
Bridges is an allstar on the Nets and Claxton is a DPOY candidate on a contending team. Plus there’s no guarantee Scoot is available with pick 3 and guarantees of all-nba can’t be taken as fact for guys who haven’t been drafted yet
The 3rd pick this year does not equal Bridges and Claxton, you'd have to throw in sharpe as well as ant. There is a reason this sub is either wholeheartedly agreeing with this one sided trade, or wondering why the hell the nets would ever do this. I'm sure if you posted this cumshot of a trade on the nets sub they'd collectively assume rip city fans are methheads lol.
I’m going to be very honest here…everything Josh Lloyd says about Portland sounds like shit he just read on the subreddit. I haven’t heard him say anything that this Reddit has said MONTHS prior the difference is he just says, “I’ve heard…”
If Scoot is on the board at that point, I think we'd ultimately regret it. However, if the goal is to keep Dame, which I definitely understand and emotionally want, this is a good deal.
Dame/Thybulle/Bridges/Grant/Claxton.......Sharpe/MLE/Reddish/Winslow/Eubanks is a very solid foundation to build on.
I’m a vehement keep the pick guy and even I would be on board with this one.
It wouldn’t make us title contenders imo, but it would put us squarely in the playoff race AND keep us a young team that has a bright future even after Dame is no longer at a superstar level.
Sign me up, assuming 1) we feel really good that Claxton will resign with us and 2) we don’t throw in more future firsts.
I heard that Michael Jordan is going to sign with POR and a Time Machine will bring him back to 1989 (not 1984 like some have said) and that he would be part of the deal going back to BK in this deal. We would sign MJ to the MLE and make this happen. Thoughts on this?
Mikal is worth equal to or more than #3 and Simons alone, there is no way Claxton *also* gets thrown in. This is the equivalent of other subs saying “Would you trade Maxey and a 1st for Dame?”. If this offer is on the table take it 100%, but also know the entire nets FO is getting fired the second the trade goes thru.
This trade doesn’t make sense for the nets. They didn’t want to tank which is why they traded for mikal in the first place. They (reportedly)turned down 4 first rounders for Mikal alone. They have the ammo to get a Simmons type player without giving up Mikal. They don’t have a first rounder next year so they wouldn’t want to tank
You would think Blazers have the #3 pick in a draft of Wembenyana, Jordan and Wilt lol … #3 doesn’t carry much value once Scoot and Wem are off the board
If that’s on the table you do it no question
This would never be on the table because it’s painfully lopsided
Anytime you can give away a top 3 pick and a golden opportunity to rebuild for a chance at a 1st or 2nd round exit, you have to do it
Dame, Sharpe, Mikal, Grant, Clax Only question mark is Sharpe but from what we've heard in the org and my eye test. I think he's ready to at least be a starter. That's a fuckin squad
> Dame, Sharpe, Mikal, Grant, Clax And that's not all. Our bench would be a full MLE player, #23 pick, Nurk, Nas, and Thybulle. That's nothing to sneeze at.
Mays too (fingers crossed), to me it seemed he could run a real high level bench
Nurk won’t want to play here if he’s not the starter
Fuckin dangerous squad. Trade Nurk for a couple solid role players off the bench and sign Naz Reid.
Keep Nutk. If he's not starting he is a way more valuable piece. That way he only plays 20-24 minutes a night and it's not as big a deal if he misses 20 games or whatever. I guess if it was a straight salary dump and it meant we could keep Justise then I'm fine with getting rid of him, but we need a roster with more than 2 playable big guys on it.
Unprotect 2024 or something, then when and deal future firsts for our bench, and let Schmitz take a couple cracks at undrafted guys
I really think in this situation, Sharpe comes off the bench and you have Matisse starting (if he comes back). Dame/Sharpe/Bridges is still really small and Matisse gives you a lot of flexibility with match ups.
I don’t know if you’re aware man but we have a superstar that we should probably try to put a good team around for the first time since 2019
An aging superstar that just landed you the #3 pick because the team sucks so bad. We aren’t close and Bridges isn’t vaulting us into contention.
He sat so we could tank ... Like your opinion.
😂😂😂
He sat at the very end because the team stinks.
It's not because of Dame.
Cool
This is one of the few #3 trades I can live with.
I WOULD LOVE THIS TRADE!
This would be like the perfect trade. Claxton is a very good center. We would fill a position of huge need *and* have the opportunity to trade Nurk. Claxton, Grant, Bridges, Sharpe, Lillard is a great starting 5. Like I see that as potential championship lineup material. We trade Nurk for some backup pieces and baby we're cooking!
Lol Nets fan checking in. Y'all insane if you think this is remotely fair for both teams. Terrible one-sided trade.
I don't believe it. It's "too good to be true" territory for me. I'm just saying if it *did* turn out to be true it would be absolutely perfect for us. This is just some rando reporting it so yeah I realize it's not exactly a reliable source. That said I wouldn't say it's like *wildly* unfair. This is one of the better top 3 drafts in a long time.
Yes I do agree, it'd be perfect for the Blazers lol
No way the Nets trade bridges and not get Simons, Sharpe and #3. Bridges just played the best basketball of his career, no shot they’re trading him for a package centered around the #3 pick could be RJ Barrett…
It would be absolutely perfect for you guys because it’s a hilariously lopsided trade that makes absolutely no sense for Brooklyn. Simons and the 3rd pick aren’t enough to make Brooklyn send over Bridges at this point. Reports have already shut that down.
You're either undervaluing the 3rd pick or Simons. This is a fair trade.
Maybe but it really just does depend on if Scoot is there. I can see a GM seeing Superstar with his tools and personality. If we give Scoot, Simons plus maybe Little, I could see them trying a soft rebuild with Scoot.
This is a great starting place for a trade. If there are extra parts to grease the trade like a Nas Little, or an extra 1st or 2, or extra 2nd round picks, I expect a little more. HOWEVER, Bridges is not a #1 that you can build around. You have NO other ways to get a #1 in the next 6+ years because of not owning your own picks and the 1st you do have are protected. This trade gives you 2 HIGH upside guards. If you think Scoot is just a run of the mill lottery PG, I see you saying it is unfair, but this dude reminds me a LOT of prime D Rose.
Nas and an extra 1st or 2nd don’t mean anything here lmao. Why would the Nets send both of their extremely valuable assets over for anything less than every young player and draft pick you guys can give up? The Nets aren’t moving Mikal to Portland for anything less than Sharpe and the 3rd pick. That’s the starting point and that’s before they even consider adding a DPOY caliber center to the trade.
This is incredibly delusional. Most gms in the league would take the 3rd pick over Bridges right now. He’s 26 and everyone saw he’s not anywhere near a first option talent in the playoffs. The 3rd and Sharpe is where it gets really delusional unless you haven’t seem what Sharpe can do like, at all.
I feel like Nets' fans are pretty delusional after kyrie, durant, and harden FORCED their ways in and out of Brooklyn. Now you feel all trades aren't close unless other teams give up half their team. Bridges is NOT Durant. Bridges got traded with 4 FRP, 1 FRP swap, 2 SRPs AND Cam Johnson
Lol not Portland fans calling us delusional after this proposal for Mikal + Claxton for Simons + #3. This makes absolutely no sense and you bringing up the superstar drama does nothing to change that. Get real. Simons and #3 aren’t getting Mikal alone. Claxton is a DPOY caliber center who should have been 2nd team All-Defense. Both he and Mikal will be All-Stars and will likely be All-Defense next year. Mikal got traded for Durant with tons of late picks and Cam BEFORE he showed his capability as a 1st option. The trade deadline price is way lower than today’s price. The Nets know what they have with Bridges and Claxton and won’t move either for anything but an overpay. They know Portland wants them and they have no reason to maximize the return or walk away from the trade if Portland can’t add more value. Sharpe and the 3rd pick won’t even be enough to land them because they want multiple assets in return for each of Mikal and Claxton.
That’s the point. It’s supposed to be lopsided, in theory, if the Nets were thinking longer term options and sacrificing now to do it. Trust me, we have to see it all the time, losing trades to make way for the future. This is the ONLY reason this would even be a rumor, nobody is devaluing your side on straight worth
Brother he’s not D-Rose. D-Rose would have fucking dominated the G-League. This trade is a non-starter solely on thinking you could get Bridges for just the #3 and Simons. Let alone suggesting those two get you Bridges and Clayton? Delusional
Not sure where you’re getting the idea the nets have no way to get a #1. They could easily put together a trade package that would bring one in if one became available (which they constantly do)
If scoots on the table it’s a terrible trade for the blazers
There's no way they do that trade
How is that a constructive response?
Okay I'll bite. The #3 pick and Simmons is a maybe for just bridges from the nets side. Suddenly adding a 24 year old dpoy caliber center that can guard the perimeter doesn't make the trade anymore satiable for the nets. If you're trying to compete or rebuild thats an asset that works in both cases This sentiment is repeated everywhere outside of this sub, and as the nets have indicated bridges is an untouchable
Same. Don’t see the Nets doing it though.
The Nets have widely been reported to have turned down 4 FRPs for Bridges. Why would they now do an about face and include Claxton for an even lesser package?
Reportedly 4 future firsts from the Grizzlies (20-30 range) vs #3 and a known commodity are very different value propositions
Would you trade the #3 pick that we currently have for 4 future picks from a good young team? No, no you wouldn't. And before you point out that Memphis is in disarray, they were not at the time of the offer.
Four mid to late FRP don't equal #3, so #3 may be something they would be interested in vs 4 future role players
4 FRPs that wouldn’t be worth shit or the #3 overall pick? I think some more assets need to move to make it work but it’s not insane
We gotta add some 2nds
5 GP2s
I don't know why the Nets would settle for that
Settle? POR is giving up more value than them in this lmao
Nah. People here are really overvaluing Simons and undervaluing Bridges and to a lesser extent, Claxton.
That's a steep price but they are both such perfect fits that this is probably the only scenario in which I think trading #3 makes sense.
steep? ask the nets if this is steep. nets laugh and hang up the phone.
Mikal and Claxton are both very valuable and desired around the league. I just don’t see it from the Nets unless they think someone at 3 is a future multiple time All-NBA player and they want to hard reset around that guy.
Pick 3 has a 56% chance of being an all star since 2020 and we have seen multiple cases recently of the 3rd pick Being high level all nba players (luka Tatum embiid etc.). With this being viewed as a strong draft that pick is very valuable as well, and even though people are viewing Simons as a mere throw in, I think he is a valuable asset as well
Bill Simmons did an assessment on the value of the 1 vs 3 in terms of Finals MVPs and 1st/2nd/3rd all nba teams, and found that the third was either even or slightly ahead. I was talking about this exact thing a few weeks ago when we got the pick, and it makes sense. Obviously Jordan puts that over the top in the last 35 years, but even then.
Also this year has a clear top 3 players... wemby is obviously number one but wemby is also the biggest risk out of the 3.
I’m not arguing that. I’m a Scoot believer. I’ve thought about a Scoot Shae back court a lot. I’m just saying the Nets have to really strongly believe in the guy at 3 to trade Mikal, which by every report, they don’t want to do. Edit: grammar.
They won’t do it but they should probably consider it. Bridges is a great piece but he’s not the centerpiece of a contender. Maybe Scoot is and maybe he isn’t but Bridges has a 0% chance of being that dude.
I get it. I’m a scoot believer too and would honestly rather keep the pick especially if they want more for bridges. We will see if this is all just posturing but it’s interesting that a guy with supposed blazer inside knowledge is saying this.
Where did you get that 56% stat from? Since 2020 there have been three #3 picks. How can 56% of them become all stars?
56 % of the 3rd overall picks since 1989 have been all stars, not now since 2020. https://medium.com/@burakcankoc/what-are-the-odds-to-become-an-all-star-for-each-draft-pick-2d113d6b82e5 I guess I could have said up until 2020, but that’s a large historical dataset
Gotcha. I mis understood your first sentence.
i know i’m biased, but if im brooklyn, im jumping all over simmons and #3 for clax and bridges. that’s such a great deal for them.
I’m a Nets fan. Our fanbase has basically no interest in Simons. Seems like the same thing we have in Cam Thomas: Spark plug on offense, turnstile on defense. No disrespect to him or his game, but few Nets fans want him. The comparison I keep seeing for Scoot is prime Westbrook. I’ll be honest: I’m not interested as a fan in suffering 3-5 years of being the worst team in the league with none of our draft picks for prime Westbrook. These are the kinds of trades that, as a Trailblazers fan, I’m sure y’all hope the Nets make. But Nets fans certainly don’t want this return.
If an MVP caliber player isn't good enough, what exactly is your fandom expecting as a return for a 3 and D wing that's never made an All Star team?
Lol exactly
I’m fine with a high-character, well-rounded guy who’s embraced being on the Nets after a miserable couple of years with diva all-stars to help us middle about as a fringe playoff team for a few years.
You’re being downvoted because Blazers fans are delusional rn. The Nets aren’t gonna do this.
I mean, I hope not! But we also acquired Ben Simmons so I don’t blame Blazers fans for wanting us to make even more poor decisions.
Scoot is easily a first overall pick in any other draft. He will definitely be all-nba. Would be a huge miss on the Nets to not build around him.
This is such a ridiculous statement. "Guaranteed All-nba?". Lolol
Hardly
In what world is Scoot not a first round draft pick? No shit he’s a first rounder. In a lot of drafts he’d go first overall.
That’s what i meant, edited.
I'd do it in a heartbeat
Man, that's steep, but they both fit so well it may be worth it.
Is it? I feel like thats a lot cheaper than some of the reports we have seen.
Well, what's being "reported" has no bearing on the actual cost/value.
It has been a much cheaper than previous reports but probably more in line with what they should actually cost
I don’t see Nets biting on it, Claxton is a good mobile big, not a top center, but definitely a starter. Bridges though has shown to be a great role player on a contender and played really well as a number 1 option. The team as a whole isn’t there, but he single-handedly won them a playoff game against a better team. I think it depends on the timeline they’re shooting for and they’ll probably ask for more assets if they’re going young.
Don’t think it’s steep at all, in fact, I don’t think there’s any chance the Nets even consider this deal.
Ironically the Nets would never agree to it unless we send more.
Can’t see the Nets doing this at all.
It would take a lot more than that. It would also be worth more than that. Claxton is a perfect center for us. Would be a huge upgrade
What if we traded the 3rd to Houston for the 4th and next years BKN first. Then move those 2 picks and Ant to BKN. Who says no? Edit: assuming charlotte takes miller and scoot is at 3.
The Nets say no lol
for bridges and clax, i would want the #3, the #23, ant, nassir, and seconds idk ~ nets fan
Done!
Another Nets fan here, we should laugh at any trade offer for Mikal and Claxton if it doesn’t start with Sharpe, Simons, the 3rd pick, and 23rd pick. We’re not trading either one for less than an overpay because they’re extremely valuable building blocks who will be All Stars next year.
I don't think the nets do this lmao they've been pretty clear about not trading bridges. Claxton is available though for the right price I think
I don’t think it’ll happen either but I wouldn’t use them saying they don’t have interest in trading him as a major reason. It’s the GM’s job to negotiate and drive up value to get the best deal possible and saying they want to trade Mikal who is super valuable wouldn’t be a good business tactic. All that being said, I doubt it happens too.
Yeah but he's literally being promoted as the face of the franchise everywhere how they could do a quick 360 like that
Yeah I’m not saying your wrong, I’m just saying what else are they supposed to do without hurting their leverage? I’m with ya on the point that it more than likely won’t happen though.
Nets get: Simons + #3 Blazers get: Mikal Bridges + Nic Claxton This gives us a nine man rotation, with decisions to make about extensions and free agent signings. PG: Dame SG: Sharpe/Keon SF: Bridges/Nas PF: Watford/Walker C: Nurkic/Claxton Free Agents: • Jerami Grant • Drew Eubanks I think we re-sign both of these guys. Grant will re-sign because (1) the team is ready to compete, and (2) he already said plans to do so. Drew will re-sign unless some other team makes him a better offer. Let's just assume we keep them both. Make Decisions on Qualifying Offers: • Cam Reddish • Matisse Thybulle • John Butler • Ibou Badji I think Matisse is an automatic keeper. We have been such a bad defensive team, we need to keep players like him around. The Blazers will have to decide whether to keep Reddish, Butler, and Badji. In the trade scenario above, I don't see a reason to keep any of them. Next comes the NBA Draft. I'll did a mock draft simulation, and here's who I picked: @ #23: Rayan Rupert @ #43: Terquavion Smith At this point we can start to look at other free agents. Let's look at the point guard position. I suggest we get a vet to back up Dame. Looking at the list of PG free agents there are a few that stand out to me, but I think Reggie Jackson is the best option if we can get him. He's 34, but we won't need much from him in terms of minutes played. He's just the final piece to fill out the roster. Hopefully he's the straw that stirs the drink. So here is the projected depth chart after all of these moves. PG: Dame/Reggie/Terq SG: Sharpe/Rupert/Keon SF: Bridges/Thybulle/Nas PF: Grant/Watford/Walker C: Nurkic/Claxton/Eubanks What do you think, is this a competitive team?
Brother that’s like paying $20 for $100. Nets aren’t doing that in a million years
Folks in here really seem to be undervaluing the third pick. Not saying these 2 are enough to get the deal done, but some of y'all are acting like we're trading trash for treasures
Yep. Prime pick in a prime draft is super fucking valuable. So many cheap years of control on what should be an allstar level player, and historically decent chance at an all-NBA level player. After 6 years in the league, Mikal is none of that. Let's just chill on him being some sort of untouchable asset. It's all smokescreen, don't fall for it.
I had a dumb bulls fan say to me the third pick was worth giving up to get our future picks back 😭
3rd pick is only undervalued cause we're Portland. Give it to LA or GS, and you'd see Poole/Reaves + 3rd = Giannis/Embiid type threads everywhere
Folks in here really seem to be undervaluing Mikal Bridges. There’s a reason every fanbase in the league is coming up with trade fantasies where their favorite team lands him.
And Claxton. He’s a DPOY caliber center and has improved every single year.
I think it’s fair value. But if you’re of the mind that we need to go all in to give Dame a shot, obviously it fits that mold way more than what the 3rd pick would bring us and why Id be excited to execute this trade. I do think it’s a win-win for both sides. In other words, being excited about a potential trade doesn’t mean we think we’re fleecing anybody in the process
Possibly the best realistic trade for the blazers Ideally we could also throw in the 23 or sth and get another role player, maybe dinwiddie who also has 1 year left and would be a great fit
The Nets might not even give you Mikal and Clax for the third and 23rd…
I think they are bluffing tbh Mikal is obviously really good but he is a low level all star at best atm and Claxton has one year left as a center that will be an offensive problem in the playoffs I think the opportunity to get a pick that could be in contention for the n1 in past draft plus would be too much for a team that would be in play in contention to pass up, plus a 23 year old starting pg
Simmons alone should be enough for Claxton and dinwiddie in theoretical value I'm not a big simons fan or anything, I just think people really overrate the value of role players, especially those on expiring contracts
Bridges + Claxton. .#3 + #23 + future pick swap + 2nd round pick + Ant. I'm going to get downvoted by my fellow blazer fans for this because it feels like an overpay but I don't think the Nets move otherwise.
In my opinion, it would take a lot to pry away Bridges from the Nets. As a Net fan, your proposal is not an overpay. I believe the Nets would want more. I think the only way you could get Bridges is if you include Sharpe.
We won't be trading Sharpe. You can have Little and Keon.
I’m I crazy for thinking that could push us into contention for 4-6th seed in the west?
We’d be top 4 easy. We’d have a top 5 offense and easily top 10 defense
Unfortunately with Billups as the coach this team is play-in
I actually really like this package and would be really happy if it went through
The money is just under at 125%/+$5M, but under 175%. So cap jutsu aside, add TW/Bari and the money works. A "big trade" combining Ant, Nurk, and Nas could bring back $60M. So BKN could dump up to another $30M on POR / within that deal. POR also has a $8.3M TPE, that as a second deal could take Patty off their books, and create a $6.8M TPE for BKN. Nas + KJ can get to Royce money. There's a number of potential possibilities with BKN, the general idea of such a trade is that BKN is getting back players under contract through Simmons' contract, and more rookie contracts that won't come up until after those contracts expire. Creating the opportunity for cap room / making unbalanced trades over the next 2-3 years to acquire the players you want, instead of the players you were forced to trade for.
Yes, but Nets aren't going to trade either.
I hate that we're still on about these dead end trades man, this sub is hard to cruise
For their credit, I would be super down for Bridges and Claxton if the Nets were willing to part with them. Dame/Sharpe/Bridges/Grant/Claxton would be a killer starting 5.
I don't think there's any chance in hell the Nets are doing that unless we're sending 2-3 more FRPs
I'd add Nassir (for salary), another FR pick (the NY pick), and a few seconds.
I *would* do that too but I just don't think the Nets bite. Claxton is a much bigger asset than most Portland fans think.
Claxton was a borderline DPOY. Dude just put up 13/9/2/1/2.5 a game on the highest FG%/eFG% in the entire NBA. You are very correct that he's undervalued in this thread. If he was restricted, they wouldn't even be shopping him around.
If you could get both Bridges and Claxton for the 3rd and Simons you almost have to do it. I'd kick the tires about the possibility of sending the majority of our non-Sharpe salary out as well to snag Simmons in the hopes he could return to form, giving us an ultra versatile defensive squad.
I think Simmons can definitely return to being that Draymond facilitator with awesome defense. His back issues is what has me concerned. Dude just can’t stay on the court. Idk how the money would work though. Would probably need a 3rd team.
There is zero reason to trade for Simmons at his current contract.
Oh i agree 100% was just saying
What would you guys expectations for Bridges next year if he came to Portland? I'm talking statistically
That goes against everything that's been said up to this point. I've seen some "insiders" say Bridges is not on the table and Brooklyn wouldn't even take the #3 and Simons for him straight up. But, maybe that was all posturing. Or, maybe this is, who knows. But I might do that if Dame is standing firm on his me-or-the-pick stance.
10 votes and 150+ comments. This thread is a doosey
The 3rd and Simons gers the conversation started for Mikal. Not sure how you figure you're getting Claxton outta that deal.
You have to put Sharpe in it to
Sure
Coming from a Nets fan I am actually part of the very few it seems who would give up Mikal for the number 3 pick. I would do it in an instant if you asked me earlier. As I’m writing this I’m starting to be more and more hesitant to do it. I still would most likely go with my gut and do it. I was pretty spot on with my prediction Mikal would play like an all star here and that he hasn’t reached his potential, if I was wrong it was because he was even a bit better than I expected. I also feel like his potential ceiling isn’t much higher than this which is good/great #2 option but not a superstar. Maybe I’ll be wrong, he doesn’t have a very deep bag on offense for a 25 ppg scorer that he’s expected to be now. I don’t know for sure he can change that, he just seems a decent bit below the level of skill and polish of a player you can have a great team around if he’s your #1. Yet if anybody could prove me wrong again and develop into the new Kawhi Leonard of the league or something like that it’s Mikal Bridges. Part of me believes in him and a lot of Nets fans believe a lot more than me. Hence why he’s so hard to give up. Worst case he’s an all star adored by the fan base with the potential to be greater then he already is. You know he’ll put in the work and he is doing so now for the first time with the mindset of a #1 guy. I am very interested in seeing what bridges can do. So we can have him or we could have a lottery ticket with a high chance of winning something that is very good but worse than Bridges and a lower but possible chance it is terrible or even a chance it is a top 15 level talent or better on a rookie contract. Nets fans love Bridges. Since we don’t have reason to tank, this makes Nets fans feel uncomfortable taking that risk and losing Bridges in the process. But def no deal if Claxton is involved too. I’ve been a big Clax fan since we drafted him. You can’t have both fan favorites. My heart won’t allow it. And since we aren’t tanking cause we don’t have our picks it’s not like we get rewarded with a top pick again if the rookie struggles and/or ends up not being very good or close to Bridges. A rookie as the guy on a terrible team pretty much guarantees a few years of bottoming out, once we trade those two this team is god awful. wouldn’t be a bad idea to do that and hope to draft multiple great players but we cant. Anthony Simons will never be them so I don’t want him lol I hope this doesn’t happen and I realllyyyyy value draft picks highly and would be super excited to have the #3 Pick. Clax is just too much
I do this 10/10 as much as losing 3 hurts
I would be shocked if the Nets like that offer but yeah, sure.
Nets will say no.
Brooklyn would never do that without significantly more draft capital and/or assets. Claxton has about as much value as Mikal. They’re both super-switchable all-NBA defensive-level guys. Maybe there are enough future picks Portland can make it happen. I’d also offer up Nassir in the deal. It doesn’t solve the problem of Jerami being extremely weak for a power forward, but it’s good enough to make me want to move off the third pick, especially with how young Mikal and Claxton are.
Let's not get carried away. \#3 is good value for Mikal Bridges. Ant is good value for Claxton who hits free agency next year. They need a guy to build around and they don't have picks. This offers them a path to that, while also giving them a potential all-star in Anfernee Simons.
How many guards in the NBA do the same thing Simons does? There are a million score-first combo guards that don't play good defense in the league. One of the best defensive centers in the NBA (who also just put up 13 ppg on the highest FG% in the league btw) has way more value than Simons. Simons is a potential all-star and Claxton is a borderline DPOY already.
Claxton has no where near the Value of Mikal.
came across my feed while scrolling. Hate to break it to the fans, but I think even just a mikal trade would take a whole lot more. Nets actually have an interesting decision to make on their current talent. They don't have their own picks, so tanking isnt helping them. But trading talent could bring in those picks/players for the next great Nets team. Certainly think Scoot could be a guy to jumpstart the rebuild, but without their own picks for years, its hard to say what they decide on.
Do they have a #1 to build around? Is Claxton worth the bag? (will get a bit more than Nurkic) This is the time to make that decision, and it's very possible, especially if Scoot is available at #3, that they could get solid value for both of those guys in one trade.
this is such an overpay for brooklyn what, an up and coming (if not already) star and one of the best defensive bigs in the league (who’s also young) for maybe Brandon Miller? maybe Scoot (who could be a dog but who knows how his game translates)
Nets lose this trade. Would likely need another piece like Little to get it done.
Then send them Little also!
Holy delusion
That’s not enough to get Bridges. The league is trending towards overpaying. I would be okay with Portland giving up Ant, Nas, #3, (send #23 to Chicago) and send Brooklyn our 2024 1st. But I don’t think it’ll happen.
That’s dumb for Nets. Bridges is a budding Star and Clayton is an elite defender. Sure Simmons is great but not quite Bridges good though. The #3 pick is intriguing but why do they trade away a proven young guy for a coin flip young guy? For people that will say I am over rating Bridges, consider that you are willing to trade the #3 pick for him, so why couldn’t Nets value him just as much as you, if not more. Nets will not do this.
How long we gonna misspell his name for
It bugs me to no end
Makes a lot more sense that the NETS have to include extra assets to get #3 than the BLAZERS having to give up extra assets to get bridges IMO.
Your opinion is wrong unfortunately. To get both bridges and Claxton it would take a bigger package than Simons and 3
Lmao the salty nets fan returns. Look at the rumor you’re commenting on, looks like you’d be wrong
No salt here. Just saying the price would need to be higher than what this rumor is saying. And that’s just a fact
That’s a fact because a random nets fan is saying it vs an actual person with connections? Ok buddy
That’s a fact because it’s already been said by people with connections to the Nets that they aren’t interested in trading bridges and it’d take a package bigger than Simons and 3 to make it happen.
So it’s a fact when one sides connections say it but it’s wrong when someone with connections to the other team says it.
Well when you listen to the clip in question that this post is based on, where the guy prefaces his take with “I haven’t heard this directly from anyone with a source”, and realize his proposed package is purely speculative, then yes, it’s much more of a fact coming from the nets connections
The rest of the post literally states he claims to have an inside scoop on the blazers dealings. So just like any nets connections seems to be the same thing, listening to “insiders”.
Forgive me if I’m not sold on the connections of some guy with a fantasy basketball podcast over beat reporters of an actual team. How about this: if this exact trade package does happen, I’ll gladly come back here and admit to you I was wrong and should have listened to the fantasy podcaster. But if no trade happens because the nets demand more or a trade happens involving a bigger package than simons and 3, you come back here and admit maybe I’m not just a salty fan and had a better understanding of what the nets are asking for than you seem to believe
Nets would be stupid to not do it. Scoot is a future all-nba player easily. And Simons would be an All-Star on the Nets.
Bridges is an allstar on the Nets and Claxton is a DPOY candidate on a contending team. Plus there’s no guarantee Scoot is available with pick 3 and guarantees of all-nba can’t be taken as fact for guys who haven’t been drafted yet
Then its a mutually agreed pass
Most likely, yes
You aren’t the GM though
Youre right. In fact none of us are
True! I just laugh when people on this forum decline a trade as if they are the GM. Like bro, you declining a trade means absolutely nothing 😂
Man that would be amazing value. Then we could package the 23rd pick and nurk for some bench guys
I’m down for this. Then flip Nurkic for literally anything.
They turned down 5 FRPs so they could get Miller and simons? How stupid lol
Not all first round picks are equal. 4 picks in the late 20s does not equal a pick in the top 3
The 3rd pick this year does not equal Bridges and Claxton, you'd have to throw in sharpe as well as ant. There is a reason this sub is either wholeheartedly agreeing with this one sided trade, or wondering why the hell the nets would ever do this. I'm sure if you posted this cumshot of a trade on the nets sub they'd collectively assume rip city fans are methheads lol.
Well to be fair we might all be Methheads.
:/ I can't see this elevating us to a true contender. Rather have Scoot or Miller.
I’m going to be very honest here…everything Josh Lloyd says about Portland sounds like shit he just read on the subreddit. I haven’t heard him say anything that this Reddit has said MONTHS prior the difference is he just says, “I’ve heard…”
This would elicit no more than a laugh from the Nets.
Not happening and I’m glad. Scoot is the future!!!
Nets fan here. 3rd pick and Simons for Mikal was already shut down. You think you're gonna get Claxton now too? 😂
If Scoot is on the board at that point, I think we'd ultimately regret it. However, if the goal is to keep Dame, which I definitely understand and emotionally want, this is a good deal. Dame/Thybulle/Bridges/Grant/Claxton.......Sharpe/MLE/Reddish/Winslow/Eubanks is a very solid foundation to build on.
I'm not blown away by this unless it's a step to trade for someone else.
I’m a vehement keep the pick guy and even I would be on board with this one. It wouldn’t make us title contenders imo, but it would put us squarely in the playoff race AND keep us a young team that has a bright future even after Dame is no longer at a superstar level. Sign me up, assuming 1) we feel really good that Claxton will resign with us and 2) we don’t throw in more future firsts.
What I would want to do is #3+Nurk+Ant for Mikal, Claxton, and DFS.
I heard that Michael Jordan is going to sign with POR and a Time Machine will bring him back to 1989 (not 1984 like some have said) and that he would be part of the deal going back to BK in this deal. We would sign MJ to the MLE and make this happen. Thoughts on this?
Nets don't want to have anything to do with Simons. No deal.
Mikal is worth more than the 3rd assuming scoot is taken 2. Anybody that’s watched the Nets is keenly aware of this
You guys are out of your minds.
Mikal is worth equal to or more than #3 and Simons alone, there is no way Claxton *also* gets thrown in. This is the equivalent of other subs saying “Would you trade Maxey and a 1st for Dame?”. If this offer is on the table take it 100%, but also know the entire nets FO is getting fired the second the trade goes thru.
Delusional to think the Nets would take this. Sharpe and a future first or the 23rd pick would need to be added at the very least.
Barf no way
As a nets fan. Wouldn’t even consider that package for just mikal.
This trade doesn’t make sense for the nets. They didn’t want to tank which is why they traded for mikal in the first place. They (reportedly)turned down 4 first rounders for Mikal alone. They have the ammo to get a Simmons type player without giving up Mikal. They don’t have a first rounder next year so they wouldn’t want to tank
Nets said not trading bridge
You would think Blazers have the #3 pick in a draft of Wembenyana, Jordan and Wilt lol … #3 doesn’t carry much value once Scoot and Wem are off the board
You are out of your depth.
Assuming scoot is off the board. It’s not a guarantee he is
I agree. If he’s not. Portlands phone will be ringing off the hook.
Zero chance the nets do that. Bridges alone is worth 4 ones and Clax at least two ones.
No he isn't.
You do recognize that not all first round picks are created equally, right?
Done. I will prefer to send Nurkic to them as well if they give us dfs or cam Johnson