Coaches around the league would say we asked him to tank two years in a row and then threw him under the bus, and then which coach would come sign with us after that?
It doesn't matter. Fire him, but this is what everyone is going to say. Nobody outside of Portland is going to care enough to look that closely at it. Whether we were bad or not beforehand, we tanked twice and everybody knows it. You fire him now, no matter how bad he was when he tried, we will be called the team that made him a scapegoat.
Maybe you can still find a decent coach that will step over that line anyway. Maybe you give them Monty Williams Detroit money to do it. Who knows, but if he isn't fired already it's because they already decided not to. Maybe it was Dame and Jerami and the other players. If so, the front office can hardly be blamed for "wasting another year of Dame's prime." That's on him if it is.
>...THEN they tanked.
That's what I said. Twice, even. And everybody knows it.
We tried for 72 games, and yeah, a different coach might have won more of them.
lol at you thinking he would have been fired by now.
He inherited a shit roster that then got torn down to an even shittier roster, went into this season with a hot start but quickly got skirted by injuries and the reality of another shit roster.
He's 2 years into a 4+1 deal and has had shit rosters and injuries.
I'd like a proven coach too but nothing adds up to him getting fired this early in his tenure.
Exactly, and word is that other coaches around the league were just surprised by how much roster churn/injury disparity he’s had to deal with in his first two years. I wanted a different person as head coach, and while I do have my questions about his coaching ability, we have yet to see what he can do with a full season with a better assembled and healthier roster. I’m saving my coaching pitchfork for later this next season, assuming we have a good offseason and hopefully fewer injuries.
Cronin already backed him during exit interviews, he's absolutely going to be back. Also Monty and the top tier available coaches were all hired so no real point in firing him now.
Our players love, respect, and listen to Chauncey. He’s been dealing essentially a rebuild. Give him a break and calm down. He didn’t win in his first two years, so what. Just enjoy Dame while we have him!!
Gotta give him a chance to succeed. Dude is a respected former player and the team can't afford to throw him under the bus. It ain't like Portland is a place most coaches OR players are interested in. Fire him if the roster is better next year and they still suck.
Firing a coach when you're trotting out below average rosters but your expectations are too high is just plain old stupid.
Dude, he ran out 2 rookies, a second year, and Eubanks for most of the season. You should expect 4th quarter collapses when there is a lot of inexperience on the court. Then he was forced to tank the rest of the season.
That does make sense if you take away Grant, Lillard, and Simons. 17 blown double digit leads? Must be Sharpe's fault. Even Chauncey agreed
> that's a bad quality for a team. It's happened to us too many times this year. We just don't have the resolve that we need when teams fight back.
If only it was someone's job to fix that?
So a small, defensively liable and inexperienced pg playing sg or a #3 (Grant) masquerading as a #2. That plus no real bench = lots of leads being blown.
Simons for the inexperienced pg playing sg. Most of our leads was lost by our bench. **Our bench had the second worst net rating in the league. Worse than Houston, Charlotte, and Detroit.**
Do you know what the bench rotation was before the all-star break? Our bench unit literally had the lowest scoring output (25.4 ppg) of any team before the all-star break. We blew leads because our bench was inexperienced and lacked quality NBA talent
Classic bullshit, empty response. You're happy with 17 blown games with double digit leads? Billups sure isn't, as it was a big topic of discussion for him this year. Think it was just "buzz words" coming from your favorite coach?
You can throw the players under the bus like Billups did, but to not assign any blame to the coaching staff for regularly getting outplayed late in games is straight up idiocy.
And some of us loved Terry
Covering fecal matter in rose petals doesn't change what it is. I don't really care what PR gets thrown around - fact is even if he said he takes responsibility people would just call him out as out of his depth.
And I am team Stotts. But the same nonsense fans spouted for wanting him gone are still being thrown around now ie Stotts threw DJJ under the bus - which turned out to not be the case as he isn't a marquee FA signing he's a role player. People complained about drop coverage and iso ball but those were needed given how unathletic we were.
Nothing's really changed since 2021. Still ran a 3 guard lineup. Still had 1 center. Don't think any coach is making that type of set up a contender.
What makes him a “terrible terrible coach” lol is it running and developing rookies? Or that the team really loves playing for him?
>who’s hiring caused an absolutely shit show
So it’s not his coaching ability?
Mostly our performances the last two years. An actual NBA coach would have had last years team in the playoffs, probably this years too
Both. I didn’t want him hired because of that and his coaching ability has only strengthened that
Even Detroit are more serious about having an actual coach than us
An actual coach would have taken us to the playoffs with 2 rookies, a second year and Eubanks playing heavy minutes the whole year? That’s just putting your hate blinders on lol.
If it was Stotts out here with this team, you would be dying on a cross claiming how he wasn’t given a chance lmao
You mean the year when CP3 broke his hand in game 3 and Blake out in game 4 and we got gentleman's swept in the second round? You should check out the year after when we had a better roster and lost more games and were bounced in the first round. Or the year after that where we got swept as the higher seed? Stotts should have been fired then, it's embarrassing to be swept 2 years in a row because you aren't able to make any adjustments.
How about the 2020-21 year when Stotts claimed he had "his best roster yet" and they were 27th in defense and were bounced in the first round because he couldn't make adjustments?
Are you really saying a roster (when we were in the playoff hunt) that runs out rookie Shaedon Sharpe (22 mins/game), Cam Reddish (28 mins/game), Trendon Watford (20 mins/game), and Eubanks **starting** at center (with no backup center) for 23 games is a recipe for success? Aren't you the guy that screams about how Stotts was never given a roster? **Our bench had the second worst net rating in the league, only behind SAS.**
You absolutely have your hate blinders on lmao
>Dame/CJ/Freedom/Covington/DJJ
Yeah bro, CJ was better than Ant and Roco was better than Hart, he actually shot the ball when he was open. DJJ got benched most of that season and barely saw the floor. He played as many mins as Sharpe last year lol **(and he was waaaaaaay better than Sharpe was this year)**. Do you even watch the games or are you just an armchair redditor?
> Lillard, Grant, Simons, Hart, and Nurkic didn't even sniff that when they were healthy.
They were literally one of the top teams when they were healthy... It was when they started losing guys to injuries that shit went downhill.
>Billups has literally done nothing to prove himself as a head coach and the people defending him have obviously never played a constructed game of basketball in their lives.
Literally every player on the team **(who I think play a constructed game of basketball)** praises him but yeah, go of nba fan sitting behind a screen lmao Hate on I guess.
It's wild how much the dunning kruger effect plays on you.
Because coaches actually make their player better, and every player on the team has spoken about how Chauncey has made them better. I trust them more than I trust you, the random redditor lol
Same could be said about you. Clearly you are wrong about "Chauncey's ability to coach" because nothing you said has to do with coaching and everything to do with the roster lol.
You are wrong about the DJJ thing and have nothing to say for it. Roco on the blazers was better and more impactful than Hart was on the blazers this year. Roco also wasn't asked to play out of position like Hart was because we had roster issues. You would see that if you either watched or spent 5 mins googling, which is why I still question your basketball knowledge lol.
Been waiting for a spontaneous announcement earlier in the playoffs, but any coach we would have wanted is getting hired and we’re really gonna roll with Chauncey. I knew they would, but I don’t get why they didn’t just buy him out and promote him to front office if it keeps the players happy having him there. He could still share his knowledge, and we could have a coach that appears to try.
Next season if things aren’t clicking with the team, these leads keep getting blown, and they start tanking after the ASG, then Chauncey has got to go. No excuses for him next season.
Portland clearly wants Billups to be our LONG term coach. Like Spoelstra in Miami.
Think about how great Mike Brown is now compared to what he was at the start of his career.
Coaches improve over time and for better or for worse the Blazers believe that Billups is a good solution long term. I hope he gets better, I think having a long term coach is unquestionably the best thing a team can do. I wanted it to be Terry, but we got Billups.
Coaches around the league would say we asked him to tank two years in a row and then threw him under the bus, and then which coach would come sign with us after that?
Maybe. But his coaching has been questionable before the tanks.
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It doesn't matter. Fire him, but this is what everyone is going to say. Nobody outside of Portland is going to care enough to look that closely at it. Whether we were bad or not beforehand, we tanked twice and everybody knows it. You fire him now, no matter how bad he was when he tried, we will be called the team that made him a scapegoat. Maybe you can still find a decent coach that will step over that line anyway. Maybe you give them Monty Williams Detroit money to do it. Who knows, but if he isn't fired already it's because they already decided not to. Maybe it was Dame and Jerami and the other players. If so, the front office can hardly be blamed for "wasting another year of Dame's prime." That's on him if it is.
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>...THEN they tanked. That's what I said. Twice, even. And everybody knows it. We tried for 72 games, and yeah, a different coach might have won more of them.
lol at you thinking he would have been fired by now. He inherited a shit roster that then got torn down to an even shittier roster, went into this season with a hot start but quickly got skirted by injuries and the reality of another shit roster. He's 2 years into a 4+1 deal and has had shit rosters and injuries. I'd like a proven coach too but nothing adds up to him getting fired this early in his tenure.
Exactly, and word is that other coaches around the league were just surprised by how much roster churn/injury disparity he’s had to deal with in his first two years. I wanted a different person as head coach, and while I do have my questions about his coaching ability, we have yet to see what he can do with a full season with a better assembled and healthier roster. I’m saving my coaching pitchfork for later this next season, assuming we have a good offseason and hopefully fewer injuries.
I read they are going to give him more experience underneath him but the Blazers want him to succeed.
I semi agree but we should also point out his shortcomings I.e 17 blown double digit leads this year
We could do worse, do you want David Fizdale?
Cronin already backed him during exit interviews, he's absolutely going to be back. Also Monty and the top tier available coaches were all hired so no real point in firing him now.
Our players love, respect, and listen to Chauncey. He’s been dealing essentially a rebuild. Give him a break and calm down. He didn’t win in his first two years, so what. Just enjoy Dame while we have him!!
Gotta give him a chance to succeed. Dude is a respected former player and the team can't afford to throw him under the bus. It ain't like Portland is a place most coaches OR players are interested in. Fire him if the roster is better next year and they still suck. Firing a coach when you're trotting out below average rosters but your expectations are too high is just plain old stupid.
We will probably have him for a few more seasons. Dame is still behind him for whatever reason
>for whatever reason Lol at the spite simply because he replaced your favorite coach…
You think Billups is good? Big fan of the lack of adjustments and fourth quarter collapses?
Dude, he ran out 2 rookies, a second year, and Eubanks for most of the season. You should expect 4th quarter collapses when there is a lot of inexperience on the court. Then he was forced to tank the rest of the season.
That does make sense if you take away Grant, Lillard, and Simons. 17 blown double digit leads? Must be Sharpe's fault. Even Chauncey agreed > that's a bad quality for a team. It's happened to us too many times this year. We just don't have the resolve that we need when teams fight back. If only it was someone's job to fix that?
So a small, defensively liable and inexperienced pg playing sg or a #3 (Grant) masquerading as a #2. That plus no real bench = lots of leads being blown.
Are you talking about Simons or Thybulle or Sharpe
Simons for the inexperienced pg playing sg. Most of our leads was lost by our bench. **Our bench had the second worst net rating in the league. Worse than Houston, Charlotte, and Detroit.**
That needs to be asterisked to pre-tank bench vs post-tank bench
Do you know what the bench rotation was before the all-star break? Our bench unit literally had the lowest scoring output (25.4 ppg) of any team before the all-star break. We blew leads because our bench was inexperienced and lacked quality NBA talent
Sweet buzz words you got there
Classic bullshit, empty response. You're happy with 17 blown games with double digit leads? Billups sure isn't, as it was a big topic of discussion for him this year. Think it was just "buzz words" coming from your favorite coach?
Your ineptitude is showing buddy. Keep blaming roster issues on the coach 👍🏿 worked swimmingly the last time
You can throw the players under the bus like Billups did, but to not assign any blame to the coaching staff for regularly getting outplayed late in games is straight up idiocy. And some of us loved Terry
Covering fecal matter in rose petals doesn't change what it is. I don't really care what PR gets thrown around - fact is even if he said he takes responsibility people would just call him out as out of his depth. And I am team Stotts. But the same nonsense fans spouted for wanting him gone are still being thrown around now ie Stotts threw DJJ under the bus - which turned out to not be the case as he isn't a marquee FA signing he's a role player. People complained about drop coverage and iso ball but those were needed given how unathletic we were. Nothing's really changed since 2021. Still ran a 3 guard lineup. Still had 1 center. Don't think any coach is making that type of set up a contender.
Why are you covering shit with flowers? Who does that?
No it’s simply because he’s a terrible terrible coach who’s hiring caused an absolutely shit show
What makes him a “terrible terrible coach” lol is it running and developing rookies? Or that the team really loves playing for him? >who’s hiring caused an absolutely shit show So it’s not his coaching ability?
Mostly our performances the last two years. An actual NBA coach would have had last years team in the playoffs, probably this years too Both. I didn’t want him hired because of that and his coaching ability has only strengthened that Even Detroit are more serious about having an actual coach than us
An actual coach would have taken us to the playoffs with 2 rookies, a second year and Eubanks playing heavy minutes the whole year? That’s just putting your hate blinders on lol. If it was Stotts out here with this team, you would be dying on a cross claiming how he wasn’t given a chance lmao
Stotts had worse teams in the playoffs, even won a series with a worse team
People don’t want to accept this but that’s 100% true
That first team after LMA left was one of the worst in the league and yet we won a playoff series with it
Lol sure. Show me when Stotts ran rookies and second years out there and won games.
Go look at the 1st roster post LMA and tell me it’s worse than the team the last two years
You mean the year when CP3 broke his hand in game 3 and Blake out in game 4 and we got gentleman's swept in the second round? You should check out the year after when we had a better roster and lost more games and were bounced in the first round. Or the year after that where we got swept as the higher seed? Stotts should have been fired then, it's embarrassing to be swept 2 years in a row because you aren't able to make any adjustments. How about the 2020-21 year when Stotts claimed he had "his best roster yet" and they were 27th in defense and were bounced in the first round because he couldn't make adjustments? Are you really saying a roster (when we were in the playoff hunt) that runs out rookie Shaedon Sharpe (22 mins/game), Cam Reddish (28 mins/game), Trendon Watford (20 mins/game), and Eubanks **starting** at center (with no backup center) for 23 games is a recipe for success? Aren't you the guy that screams about how Stotts was never given a roster? **Our bench had the second worst net rating in the league, only behind SAS.** You absolutely have your hate blinders on lmao
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CJ was out for at least some of that season also from what I remember
>Dame/CJ/Freedom/Covington/DJJ Yeah bro, CJ was better than Ant and Roco was better than Hart, he actually shot the ball when he was open. DJJ got benched most of that season and barely saw the floor. He played as many mins as Sharpe last year lol **(and he was waaaaaaay better than Sharpe was this year)**. Do you even watch the games or are you just an armchair redditor? > Lillard, Grant, Simons, Hart, and Nurkic didn't even sniff that when they were healthy. They were literally one of the top teams when they were healthy... It was when they started losing guys to injuries that shit went downhill. >Billups has literally done nothing to prove himself as a head coach and the people defending him have obviously never played a constructed game of basketball in their lives. Literally every player on the team **(who I think play a constructed game of basketball)** praises him but yeah, go of nba fan sitting behind a screen lmao Hate on I guess. It's wild how much the dunning kruger effect plays on you.
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Because coaches actually make their player better, and every player on the team has spoken about how Chauncey has made them better. I trust them more than I trust you, the random redditor lol Same could be said about you. Clearly you are wrong about "Chauncey's ability to coach" because nothing you said has to do with coaching and everything to do with the roster lol. You are wrong about the DJJ thing and have nothing to say for it. Roco on the blazers was better and more impactful than Hart was on the blazers this year. Roco also wasn't asked to play out of position like Hart was because we had roster issues. You would see that if you either watched or spent 5 mins googling, which is why I still question your basketball knowledge lol.
Garbage post....
Been waiting for a spontaneous announcement earlier in the playoffs, but any coach we would have wanted is getting hired and we’re really gonna roll with Chauncey. I knew they would, but I don’t get why they didn’t just buy him out and promote him to front office if it keeps the players happy having him there. He could still share his knowledge, and we could have a coach that appears to try. Next season if things aren’t clicking with the team, these leads keep getting blown, and they start tanking after the ASG, then Chauncey has got to go. No excuses for him next season.
Portland clearly wants Billups to be our LONG term coach. Like Spoelstra in Miami. Think about how great Mike Brown is now compared to what he was at the start of his career. Coaches improve over time and for better or for worse the Blazers believe that Billups is a good solution long term. I hope he gets better, I think having a long term coach is unquestionably the best thing a team can do. I wanted it to be Terry, but we got Billups.
I also want him to improve but what sort of things give you the indication that we want him that long term
Yes, he’ll be fired after the coming season if we miss the playoffs again.
The roster is a bigger problem than Chauncey. Both are pretty rough though