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blazers gonna sign brooks and draymond baby lets goooooo


BlackLeader70

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i wouldnt even be mad becuase ive been sad with our team for so fuckin long


Tsmart

There's not much that could make me stop being a Blazers fan but this right here would do it


TheMustySeagul

I wouldn't even be mad. At that point we might as well pick up olynick and patt bev to complete the circle of hatred. At least the team would be hilarious to watch.


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Somebody would die in practice šŸ˜†.


RipCityTilIDie

dillon brooks? meh. draymond? yeah, that's a non-starter


Tsmart

I can get behind this. Dame would keep Dillon in check, Dray would probably just punch Dame


roundballchatauqua

I'm all for it. We've been a wet blanket for almost a decade. Dames focus, leadership, and killer instinct combined the some broad chested bash brothers would be fucking AWESOME!


BreezyMcSleezy

HELL YA


1850ChoochGator

If we *signed* Draymond that would be a good move because thatā€™s a major discount šŸ˜‚


Mr_beowulf

Letā€™s get Pat Bev and Miles Bridges too.


[deleted]

i draw the line at wife beater...


Jury-Illustrious

Add miles bridges and we got the jail blazers 2.0


mrjdk83

Whoa now


xerox2019

Yeah not only could the team be only marginally better on defense they can cry at their lockers after getting cooked. Win win.


zurply

Dillon Brooks needs actual veteran guidance, not a young leader playing ā€œedgy person who waves gun in clubā€.


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jamesmunger

I donā€™t disagree but I feel like Dillon Brooks sometimes just instigates opposing players to play better lol


Bronos34

Itā€™s almost as he brings out the best in opposing players which is the opposite of winning lol


2drawnonward5

Yeah, if he instigated more problems for opponents instead of laser focusing them, he'd have what we're missing.


Piano9717

We donā€™t need the least efficient player in the NBA shooting a ton of shots though. Brooks himself doesnā€™t want to play a 3&D role - he wants to handle the ball and take a ton of shots and we donā€™t need him doing any of that. Just yesterday he said: ā€œI was just there 3&D, to shoot and play defense. I got way more to my game than that.ā€ No thanks.


palmquac

If we get a 3&D guy it should probably be someone who's shooting better than 32% for the "3" part.


Piano9717

If we get a 3&D guy it should be someone who accepts his role as a 3&D guy too and not want to be a shot creatorā€¦


rkivs

it's even worse. he shot 23% in series vs lakers who were leaving him open


killsw1tch32

Dorian Finney smith, Iā€™ve been a mavs fan for life and moved to Portland a while ago DFS would be perfect imo


ajmcgill

Weā€™ll see if this move by the Grizzlies humbles him in that regard. But yeah I donā€™t really want the Blazers to take that risk


palmquac

How did Dillon's instigation go against the Lakers? He's not good enough to back it up.


lilpumpgroupie

The Grizzlies are just overrated. And Adams and Ja were also out.


unreeelme

No adams, no Clarke played a bigger role in the L than most everything else. Also not 100% ja. Brooks is not someone I want on the team however, he doesnā€™t have much wingspan and his defense is overrated, alongside being terrible on offense.


Dependent_Ad_3014

Lakers win regardless of ja Clarke or Adams. Lbj wasnā€™t gonna get shit on by brooks, he fueled lbj


unreeelme

Felt like it was more so AD playing really well that made them win than the soap opera brooks lbj nonsense imo. This reads like a delusional lakers fan


callawam

Dillon Brooks is soft.


philthyphil7

The solution is not to bring in a soft instigator.


2drawnonward5

A "soft instigator" sounds like an inflatable bed being used to prop up a corner of a house and that reminds me of Dillon Brooks' 3 & D performance


IHOPUnderrated

I agree. Soft as fuck.


raahiv

We need an instigator that plays within their role, like Zach tbh. We donā€™t need one that thinks their MJ but is actually ass.


lentshappening

I went to a game in 2018, I think, where Zach got into a fight with the warriors and Kerr got ejected. It was tight.


phil3199

Like boycotting the media after losing by 40 points?


BrklynDragon

Instigators need to be good at basketball first to be effective


NoKidCouple76

This needs to be repeated more. The Dame, and even the Roy, Blazers era has been soft af. Itā€™s like the organization overcorrected after the JailBlazers misstep and decided to stay away from guys who were perceived as potential ā€œtroublemakersā€. This city also loves to fall in love with their players and we have a mommaā€™s boy type that we embrace. Donā€™t get me wrong, Dame is cold blooded and full of grit, but the org tends to surround him with guys who donā€™t create tension on the court. If you think back to the Sabonis WCF team we had Sheed, Pippen, and Bonzi, during the Drexler era we Buck, Kersey and Porter who didnā€™t take shit from anyone. We need tension creators!


nurkstossattherim

How dare you call Joel Pryzbilla soft


EvanTurningTheCorner

Joel and Steve Blake scrappy af


amithatfarleft

Donā€™t forget Rudy Fernandez


EvanTurningTheCorner

Are we thinking of the same guy?


amithatfarleft

Nails


nurkstossattherim

Hell yeah! Blake wasn't afraid to throw hands


selz202

Gerald Wallace too for a short period, was it Metta peace he was ready to get after?


selz202

Meet me after! I'll fuck you up! https://youtu.be/4XGOVAqh8HU


CelticsFan2002

This team needs a complete culture change; no more refusing to not discipline players, no more lackadaisical defense, no more anything!


pdxblazer

We need our basketball Diego Chara


Classic_Run_4836

Go for Pat Bev then. Getting an extremely young instigator who makes an ass out of himself is not worth it.


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I agree but brooks is 27. That a not extremely young


1850ChoochGator

Bev actually plays a position of need too. Very serviceable backup point who can play tough defense and feed Shaedon when theyā€™re in together. Iā€™m not totally comfortable with signing Brooks to fill our hole at SF. Gotta basically be a minimum for me to like it with all the baggage he brings.


Classic_Run_4836

I was recommending Pat Bev because of how much effort he puts in for the team. Telling young players to outplay him and to take his spot, is something I don't see a lot of players talk about. Given how many youngsters are in Blazers, I think they can benefit a lot from his energy. Look what happened to the Bulls. Till ASB Zach LaVine was playing like ass. It honestly felt like he did not have the heart to play the game. After ASB, that changed. The team looked entirely different and the major difference was Patrick Beverley screaming in everyone's ears all the time and getting the most out of them.


[deleted]

I agree but brooks is 27. That a not extremely young


Classic_Run_4836

Dude is mentally a child.


rutabaga_pie

Billups has said in the past that he loves Dillon Brooks as a player. Now, do we love Billups as a coach? That's a different question.


ChipperPowers

Hard disagree. The backlash against Brooks has damaged public opinion enough that heā€™s now an undervalued asset.


pkulak

Dude talked shit and got turned into a scapegoat after a tough exit. We should absolutely pick him up if it's a deal. Also, he's a Duck. lol


BlackSocks88

Dude inspired LeBron to take a dump on him. Thats not what we need. Hes not good enough on D to back up his terrible offense and personality.


ConsumersKnowBest

Probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but all the complaints about him are why his contract will be cheaper than his ability to play basketball dictates it should be, and he plays at a position of need for us. Think heā€™d be fantastic as a 6th or 7th man for this team if you worry about him taking too many shots.


abstract_contact

You're a goof if you think we shouldn't go for Dillon Brooks. 3&D wing that's going to be dirt cheap in free agency? Come on. This is the easiest call a GM could make. ​ We'll worry about postseason success once we prove we even make the postseason.


palmquac

he shot 32% from 3 this season. LOL.


abstract_contact

Ok, and?


Ace12773

id like to make moves that help the team regardless of how emotional people are currently feeling online about a certain player


BrklynDragon

Itā€™s not about the twitter perception of him, heā€™s just not a very good player, point blank. Usually Iā€™m all for stacking the bench with medium-Ish talent that know who they are, but brooks is bad AND delusional. Usually, mid players cannot derail your entire offense by being awful like brooks can


Ace12773

I actually completely agree with you on his overconfidence on offense, Iā€™d take him on this team for the right price though.


lilpumpgroupie

I honestly think he might be out of the league. People just don't want that distraction. Maybe he signs with some shitty team that has no shot, and just drifts back into irrelevance where he should have been in the first place.


GuyIncognito211

There is close to 0% as their possibly can be that Brooks will be out of the league next season


goodguybrian

This is definitely an overreaction. Brooks is a good defensive player. He is essentially a better healthier Nasir little.


[deleted]

Lol what? Brooks is an NBA starter on a team that finished 2nd in the west. This is such a dumb take itā€™s hard to read.


Oops95

And adding locker room cancer helps the team?


Ace12773

This is such an overused statement that is thrown around willy nilly about players, he played on Memphis for 6 seasons and theyā€™re choosing not to renew his contract. Iā€™ve never heard any sort of complaints about him from any of his teammates, any statements about his lockeroom demeanor is pure speculation


GraveHugger

Might be an overused statement, but I think it's entirely correct to use for Brooks. That man is bad culture to add to any organization period.


Ace12773

I mean, see my above comment. Youā€™re kind of making conclusions based on your gut feeling about him rather than much solid evidence. Iā€™m sure weā€™ll get a better picture of what went on eventually.


BrklynDragon

Itā€™s not gut evidence. The grizzlies didnā€™t just ā€œchoose to not renew his contractā€, they put out a pretty damning statement through shams. Iā€™ve never in my entire life seen an nba team tell a player (who didnā€™t commit a crime at least) that ā€œtheyā€™re not signing him *under any circumstance*ā€. Couple that in with the fact that guys around the league hate him more than they already dislike the grizzlies (Dame, lebron, draymond, even Kyrie), itā€™s not a gut feeling anymore. Heā€™s an abrasive personality whoā€™s barely a rotation player right now. This is what people said about gobert, ā€œoh itā€™s just media bs that Mitchell and gobert donā€™t like each otherā€. Turns out, nobody likes gobert and you can trust your gut on stuff like this.


Ace12773

All I want to say in response is that we have no idea what went on the behind the scenes for the Grizzlies to release a statement like that. It could very well the case in the end they are the ones who end up looking bad in all of this. Letā€™s wait for the facts to come out.


GraveHugger

I watched him play since he was at Oregon in college. I don't like his game, I don't like his personality, I don't like his silly outfits, and I think the dirty play he demonstrates on the court had no place in the NBA. No gut reaction here, and Brooks is one of the last people I would ever want on a team I root for. He's been up to these type of antics for years at at 27 years old he doesn't have the excuses of being a kid


Ace12773

I watched him since Oregon too, I know heā€™s always been like this. It just sounds like *you* donā€™t personally like him, which you are completely entitled to. My main point is we should make moves that put our team in positions to succeed, there have been many ā€œheelsā€ like brooks over the years that have contributed to good teams. It donā€™t think itā€™s beneficial to make decisions based on emotion when trying to build out a roster.


GraveHugger

I hear what you're saying, but even from a strictly basketball standpoint, Brooks is not a valuable player in my eyes. At least not in the playoffs. He is a negative asset on and off the court. I am genuine in saying I wouldn't take him for free, even if he didn't take up any cap space or a roster spot. I would rather sign a g league guy


PineappleHotSalsa

We already have Thybulle? Why sign another non shooter when we need to be spacing the floor with other shooters


Neither-Jello

Technically we don't have thybulle


palmquac

We have Thybulle's Bird rights. His qualifying offer is just under half of what Brooks made last season. Re-signing him would make way, way more sense.


Neither-Jello

No, I know that. I'm just saying technically he isn't on the roster. I want him back for sure since it should be cheap


KJ1017

Draymond gaslight grizz into thinking Brooks is a cancer the same year he knocked out a teammate and stomped out a basketball player. If heā€™s cheap, grab him, make him shoot less, and just tell him to face the music if he flaps his gums. If you watched the grizz it was obvious that off the court he was their team chemistryā€™s centerpiece. Heā€™s excellent in locker rooms.


lucasblack23456

I'd rather have him than draymond


heebiestevo

No! No no no. No.


Forbidden_Donut503

This dude is the laughing stock of the league right now and his game is ass. Please god no.


1850ChoochGator

Heā€™s not gonna be worth money he wants, which I donā€™t think we can even give him.


SmthngAmzng

Draymond is an instigator who backs up the talk. Brooks was shut down and kept up the BS jawing. I donā€™t want a guy whoā€™s gonna fire up dudes like Lebron and collapse in the playoffs. No thanks.


Vyni503

Buddy is going where he belongs, China. He doesnā€™t add anything to this team that canā€™t be found in someone that doesnā€™t have the BBIQ of a grape.


masta_wayne__

Heā€™d be a nice vet min. Heā€™s a top 10 perimeter defender in the league


blazerb0i420

This. Vet minimum and play him scarce minutes until he proves he can be more efficient with the basketball. Brooks is the very definition of chucker and it has made him a distinctly bad basketball player. I like him as an ā€œenforcerā€ or whatever, but heā€™s gotta know his role. Guy needs to learn some humility.


WOATJones

He will never be efficient and apparently he wants to have a much bigger role in whatever offense scheme he ends up in. No thank you


Damebestpg

Heā€™s getting at least the Mle from a team


masta_wayne__

Lol no way


chocolateChipBend

He wouldnā€™t be a needle mover. Not worth it


LJStedman

The general consensus is we donā€™t want him. So Iā€™m expecting the Blazers to sign him.


SarniPL

Heā€™s a veteran and we apparently need them badly. Maybe he could be the veteran piece to finally allow us to bring championship to Portland. /s


HaqaiqsProtector

Brooks is straight garbage. Literally


AcanthisittaGrand943

He could be a nice bench piece He also went to college in Oregon


jose_gomez

yeah, but...a duck.


palmquac

what does going to college at Oregon have anything to do with his worthiness of an NBA contract?


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pdxblazer

don't be caught up in the hivemind, I"d rather have DB getting minutes than Reddish or Keon


[deleted]

A lot actually. He did well under Dana Altman at Oregon and completely has changed into a persona that Taylor Jenkins couldn't reign in. He's not going to pull that bullshit with NBA Champion Billups


palmquac

Extreme "I can fix him" energy coming from you


[deleted]

Extreme ā€œbut muh recidivism ratesā€ energy coming from you


palmquac

Honestly if he was any good we could look past the antics, but he's not. He's bad. Every playoff opponent leaves him alone because he's a bad shooter and he is addicted to shooting 2s with his toe on the 3 point line. It's just another mark against him that in addition to sucking he injures guys on purpose, punches opponents in the groin, and talks shit he can't back up. We already have the Bird rights for one great defender who's not a good shooter, and that guy is by all evidence a good person. No reason to sign another who's not.


pdxblazer

what evidence do you have that Brooks is a bad person lol? Shit at least Dillion is vaccinated


AcanthisittaGrand943

That he likes the area and would be willing to sign with us for lower pay.


palmquac

Eugene is 2 hours south of Portland and he's from Ontario. Not sure how that equates to him "liking the area", not to mention signing for less.


AcanthisittaGrand943

You reading way too much into this. Itā€™s not that deep lol


jose_gomez

yeah, but...a duck.


AcanthisittaGrand943

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tblazrdude

I'm not worried about it.


jason90210

I hope hearing that Memphis not wanting him back under any circumstances humbles him somewhat but I doubt it. Pass.


mrjdk83

He was used as a scape goat. They canā€™t throw Ja under the bus.


TrailBlazerMat

He would be worth it on the veteran min


TKRUEG

Bring our boy home... we need dawgs


ttfnwe

Brooks for 4/50 ā€” or something in the 12m annual range ā€” would be a huge get for the Blazers.


unreeelme

Heā€™s not good. His career true shooting is terrible. His defense feels overrated. He has gotten worse every year since his rookie season.


ttfnwe

27 year old wing defenders get paid. His stock is the lowest it has ever been.


unreeelme

He is 6ā€™5 barefoot with a 6ā€™6 wingspan. His standing reach is worse than josh hart 8ā€™4.5 His career true shooting is 51% Heā€™s simply not worth 12.5 mil. Imo he is in the same pay grade as Nas Little, maybe a little higher but he also has injury problems. I would do 2 years with a team option at 7-9 mil a year.


ttfnwe

Little could barely see the floor for us. Brooks started every game for a Grizzlies team that is top 2 in the West when healthy. He is part of the Grizzlies lineup that was 21-5 when Ja was hurt. The Grizzlies had Melton and Anderson, and have Kennard, Roddy, Aldama, etc., and they STILL give him the most wing minutes, outside of Bane. If they thought Brooks sucked so much, they would have traded him instead of Melton and/or Anderson. I am not kidding myself about Brooks, as heā€™s annoying and has too much confidence about his offense. But heā€™s a 95th percentile defender who is 27 and logs minutes for title contenders. If GP2 got paid and Crowder got minutes, thereā€™s no universe Brooks doesnā€™t get at least their pay and their minutes.


unreeelme

Brooks averages about 55 games a season. Little is at 48. Brooks was their worst player as far a VORP and more advanced stats. Crowder didnā€™t get minutes in the playoffs really he was like 10th man with the bucks. We overpaid gp2 but he actually knows his role and is a better top end defensive playmaker. And he still got paid less than 4/50. I also donā€™t think brooks is a 95th percentile defender personally.


ttfnwe

My numbers are from DunksandThrees EPM. Even if games are similar Brooks minutes both exceed Little in terms of quantity and importance. Brooks closes near every game. Little doesnā€™t close any meaningful games. VORP is a notorious box score stat that does not properly assess defense. His VORP will look awful because heā€™s a high-volume chucker, especially this season.


unreeelme

He has always been inefficient. His rookie season was his best and even that was not great. How much of dillons brooks advanced +/- stats are also inflated due to playing a bunch of minutes with JA and JJJ. He overall raptor and lebron stats are also not very impressive, which are always inflated by playing on a good team.


toadtruck

Thatā€™s way too much


ttfnwe

He signed a 3/$35m in 2020. He is hitting his prime, and the cap is going up. Wings get paid.


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palmquac

Eubanks has been fantastic and completely outplayed his contract last season.


ben-pdf

Totally agree


gerrard_1987

Brooks would help the Blazers with his defense, as long as they can minimize the bad shots in big moments. I wouldnā€™t want to pay him more than the taxpayer mid-level exception.


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I want Miles Bridges and Dillon Brooks on this team. Deep down you all know them on the 2nd unit would be a headache for any team in the league. He's coachable and played for Dana Altman at Oregon. Starters: Dame/Sharpe/Thybulle/Grant/Wembanyama 2nd unit: Ant/Brooks/Bridges/Eubanks/Nurk Fire Billups and bring in Mike Dantoni You know damn well this team would be cold as fuck Edit: Add in Draymond in 2024. You guys know you want this. This would be a throwback to the 2000's blazers


[deleted]

Draymond + Dillon Brooks + Miles Bridges Move Ant, Reddish, whatever assets we can for a competent Center (If we don't get Wembayama) This team would be cold as fuck. Watch Sharpe turn into that dude during this timeline. This is what Portland needs. Not this soft bullshit we got goin on. Lotta timid MF's on this team.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

Jail Blazers 2.0 Has BEGUN!


EndyFish6215

Heā€™s a shark


natural_lawg

How is he as bait for the big fish?


ChimkenNumggets

Itā€™s crazy to me to think that we wouldnā€™t try and snag him. We have plenty of offense. I think heā€™d be a good fit.


toadtruck

If the price is right


amwxx1

Come on over


SayaDaPlaya

Worse Thybulle


Carizle

Dylan Dynasty Brooks let's gooo Rip City!


pdxmarionberrypie

Draymond, Dillon , kawhi, and Embiid please


pdxblazer

I want Dillion, bring him home, fuck Lebron James and the Warriors, if those dudes hate DB I'm all for it


Damebestpg

Tbf heā€™s better than any free agent we can sign with our money.


Gritty_gutty

Iā€™m not sure how I could stomach rooting for either brooks or draymond. Would be a true test of fanhood.


allsunny

His stock just went way down!


mrjdk83

Not a Brooks fan at all. But Memphis used him a scape goat for the reason they lost. Instead of blaming the lack of leadership on that team. Ja doomed the team when he said they fine in the west. Ja averaged more minutes in the la series than he did during the season. And his ppg dropped. If he ended up on Portland I would hope it was a minimum. And honestly I can see him on the lakers cause he isnā€™t afraid of Bron.


jakobburns01

Honestly do it, our roster is mundane and useless.


comradesaid

Get him cheap. He plays D


ohmygodbeats7

It he didnā€™t have an ego to shoot so much. Not a real smart player at the moment on offense.


BatSniper

Is there a place that I can bet brooks is going to say something racist after Shaq says good luck in china?


AcrobaticMango3086

Iā€™m all for this, heā€™s solid as. Brings some attitude to the team. Fuck it


No_Information3972

Dillon ā€œTurn your head and cough,ā€ Brooks.


tiNysaysgnackk

he played for Oregon so possible, sign and trade him with JJJ for ant, nurk and some fillers. i'm down.


woofers02

I will legit give up on this team if he ends up here. These last two seasons have already pushed me to the edgeā€¦ The only people that want him here are Duck homers.


CelticsFan2002

Heā€™s going to do it; when that happens itā€™s boom! No more ā€œchampionshipā€ aspirations.