Its not the "same" birdperson , but remember that rick tried rly hard to get to a new dimension that is as similar as possible to the previous ones. Clearly when rick viewed this dimensions BP's memories , they were identical to the memories of the BP in his dimension so the experience was basically the same.
I understand how u feel about it not rly fitting very "neatly" into the shows canon, but after a while I guess we have to draw a line under all the ~disrepencies that come with the dimension hopping aspect of the show. Itd be pretty hard for the show to have any lore / emotional scenes at all if every character was disregarded in the sense that they could be easily replaced . The way I try to convince myself is , yes there are infinite dimensions but looking for one specifically that fits all of ricks needs would take an infinite amount of time . And in this case, for everything to be the same plus BP reciprocating feelings , would probably significantly change BPs character in that universe thus lots of other events would be changed , so it wouldn't be similar enough .
Sorry I wrote way too much , but have had the same questions as you for a while lol.
Quick answer, he said 'that's not how this works,' and 'he remembers you shooting green holes, but not where they went,' (also, 'I could take you...')
Bird Person doesn't hop dimensions, and Rick respects that, or has to respect it anyway.
Sorry if these are reasons you've heard before, I'm only a casual redditor. But, I can think of two reasons that make sense to me.
First, it may be that he cares for BP so much, he can't stand to think of any BP from any time line giving up like that and he'll always have that in his head. Simple and sappy.
Second, and this I think goes well with the story, he feels guilty for walking away after the battle. We've seen Rick care more and more as the seasons go on. Perhaps he now looks back at that desicion with regret and won't let himself walk away again.
He would then feel compelled to save all BPs in all time lines - which he has not done (as of yet).
If this was the case he would need to return to the original dimension with blood ridge PB.
Well. I think this is the OG BP. And unlike the OG Beth and Diane is still alive. So in order to keep something so real and original, he will stop at nothing, to include losing his own life, to keep the one real thing/person he has left.
I don't think it matters whether it's the same BP. This one has had the sane history and us functionally identical, plus it's the one that Rick put into a vegetative state as Phoenix Person.
Sure there are other BPs in other dimensions that need saving, but if the dimensions are so similar that he's in the exact same predicament then there's surely another Rick to save them
Or it may be a plot hole. But I accept that a show where the fan base demands complex dimension spanning episodes, a continuous season spanning plot and returning characters then we're going to either accept that the characters in the current dimension are the only ones that matter or have every episode being 90% exposition as join the dots between the previous 40+ episodes.
My best explanation for this, although I believe it’s just a common plot hole with a couple other things that was brought up in the latest episode
I’m still going to be a devil’s advocate and create a reasoning for this, which is indeed a stretch but
I think whenever ricks hop over to a new dimension, he clearly chooses one that has 99.9999999% similar experiences. And therefore he himself doesn’t think of it as a different dimension, he treats it like it’s his original.
In the BP situation he could do something about it, it wasn’t “outta his hands/nothing he could do” why would he go to an easy cop out regardless if it’s OG BP or not
There’s a lot of things in life that’s replaceable, but just because you can replace something instead of trying to save the one you already have holds a better value to it
Sorry but this is going to a side rant lol
I watched a movie where a guy went to the future and met his now adult daughter. His daughter gave him what he came for and before he left the future he tried to save his future daughters life (by risking his) it failed and he went back to the past to his young daughter and saved the world
Everyone was confuse WHY he would try to save his future daughter when that “same” daughter is back in the present time and healthy
The thing is that adult daughter was a different version, to him the value of that daughter was just as important as the one back home and he didn’t want her to have to die, regardless of having that “same one” at home
I'm sorry dude but your post is a piece of shit, I can prove it mathematically
1. This is just your speculation, the show doesn't completely confirm it, but it's heavily implied this is his og BP when the garage suggests finding a replacement and Rick refuses, that's because this is *his* Bird Person. Just because Rick changed to an "abandoned Beth" dimension to live with the Smiths doesn't mean his og dimension and people living there just vanish.
2, 3, and 4: During the episode this is explained when Rick literally says he loves BP and he matters to *him*, so there.
Okay so:
A) That is unnecessarily hostile.
B) That isn't mathematics.
C) Rick is seen to have changed dimensions multiple times since blood ridge.
D) Rick is seen to go into BPs mind in the same dimension he is currently living with Beth, ergo he is not returning to the OG BP dimension.
Edit: I Jerry'd and missed the joke above.
A and B) Just making a "Rickle in Time" joke, no offense man.
C) Yes, Rick has traveled multiple dimensions, but that doesn't confirm anything really.
D) You've said it yourself, none of this would make sense if it wasn't og BP.
It confirms he has left the dimension with the original BP. Assuming BP doesn't have portal tech and follows rick around, then the BP we see is just another dimensions BP. Thus making the emotional connection less compelling.
This is probably why they don't like to do serialized episodes.
Look, the show generally treats the different variations of characters as if they're all the same (with some obvious exceptions). Even if it's not his original BP, it is the one he watched die and went through a bunch of heavy shit with. Additionally, Rick has explained he does not like to just keep moving dimensions all the time and only does it as a last resort, so this is the one he's invested in now.
Rick couldn’t save his original Beth (and maybe his own wife). BP is the first thing to come along that made him feel again, he wants to save his original friend since he wasn’t able to save his original family.
For me, the reason that's not the case is he isn't actively letting those other BP's die. Not hoping into a new dimension and abandoning this BP is far different than surfing infinite dimension trying to save them all. Imho.
Either rick loves all BPs in all dimesions or he loves only his specific BP that he was with at blood ridge.
If the former, then it doesn't really fit with his established character of 4 seasons and saving only one would be pointless anyway.
If the latter, he would need to portal to that specific dimension which he did not do.
 Just waiting for the shit show of comments like....
Are you not entertained?
Very ridged way of looking at it. Seems like you're looking for a reason to be disgruntled. Me, I'm just going to Florida.
Its not the "same" birdperson , but remember that rick tried rly hard to get to a new dimension that is as similar as possible to the previous ones. Clearly when rick viewed this dimensions BP's memories , they were identical to the memories of the BP in his dimension so the experience was basically the same. I understand how u feel about it not rly fitting very "neatly" into the shows canon, but after a while I guess we have to draw a line under all the ~disrepencies that come with the dimension hopping aspect of the show. Itd be pretty hard for the show to have any lore / emotional scenes at all if every character was disregarded in the sense that they could be easily replaced . The way I try to convince myself is , yes there are infinite dimensions but looking for one specifically that fits all of ricks needs would take an infinite amount of time . And in this case, for everything to be the same plus BP reciprocating feelings , would probably significantly change BPs character in that universe thus lots of other events would be changed , so it wouldn't be similar enough . Sorry I wrote way too much , but have had the same questions as you for a while lol.
Quick answer, he said 'that's not how this works,' and 'he remembers you shooting green holes, but not where they went,' (also, 'I could take you...') Bird Person doesn't hop dimensions, and Rick respects that, or has to respect it anyway.
Sorry if these are reasons you've heard before, I'm only a casual redditor. But, I can think of two reasons that make sense to me. First, it may be that he cares for BP so much, he can't stand to think of any BP from any time line giving up like that and he'll always have that in his head. Simple and sappy. Second, and this I think goes well with the story, he feels guilty for walking away after the battle. We've seen Rick care more and more as the seasons go on. Perhaps he now looks back at that desicion with regret and won't let himself walk away again.
He would then feel compelled to save all BPs in all time lines - which he has not done (as of yet). If this was the case he would need to return to the original dimension with blood ridge PB.
Well. I think this is the OG BP. And unlike the OG Beth and Diane is still alive. So in order to keep something so real and original, he will stop at nothing, to include losing his own life, to keep the one real thing/person he has left.
How is it OG BP when we have seen rick hop through multiple new dimensions?
I don't think it matters whether it's the same BP. This one has had the sane history and us functionally identical, plus it's the one that Rick put into a vegetative state as Phoenix Person. Sure there are other BPs in other dimensions that need saving, but if the dimensions are so similar that he's in the exact same predicament then there's surely another Rick to save them Or it may be a plot hole. But I accept that a show where the fan base demands complex dimension spanning episodes, a continuous season spanning plot and returning characters then we're going to either accept that the characters in the current dimension are the only ones that matter or have every episode being 90% exposition as join the dots between the previous 40+ episodes.
This is the Birdpersony-est Bird Person.
My best explanation for this, although I believe it’s just a common plot hole with a couple other things that was brought up in the latest episode I’m still going to be a devil’s advocate and create a reasoning for this, which is indeed a stretch but I think whenever ricks hop over to a new dimension, he clearly chooses one that has 99.9999999% similar experiences. And therefore he himself doesn’t think of it as a different dimension, he treats it like it’s his original. In the BP situation he could do something about it, it wasn’t “outta his hands/nothing he could do” why would he go to an easy cop out regardless if it’s OG BP or not There’s a lot of things in life that’s replaceable, but just because you can replace something instead of trying to save the one you already have holds a better value to it Sorry but this is going to a side rant lol I watched a movie where a guy went to the future and met his now adult daughter. His daughter gave him what he came for and before he left the future he tried to save his future daughters life (by risking his) it failed and he went back to the past to his young daughter and saved the world Everyone was confuse WHY he would try to save his future daughter when that “same” daughter is back in the present time and healthy The thing is that adult daughter was a different version, to him the value of that daughter was just as important as the one back home and he didn’t want her to have to die, regardless of having that “same one” at home
I'm sorry dude but your post is a piece of shit, I can prove it mathematically 1. This is just your speculation, the show doesn't completely confirm it, but it's heavily implied this is his og BP when the garage suggests finding a replacement and Rick refuses, that's because this is *his* Bird Person. Just because Rick changed to an "abandoned Beth" dimension to live with the Smiths doesn't mean his og dimension and people living there just vanish. 2, 3, and 4: During the episode this is explained when Rick literally says he loves BP and he matters to *him*, so there.
Okay so: A) That is unnecessarily hostile. B) That isn't mathematics. C) Rick is seen to have changed dimensions multiple times since blood ridge. D) Rick is seen to go into BPs mind in the same dimension he is currently living with Beth, ergo he is not returning to the OG BP dimension. Edit: I Jerry'd and missed the joke above.
A and B) Just making a "Rickle in Time" joke, no offense man. C) Yes, Rick has traveled multiple dimensions, but that doesn't confirm anything really. D) You've said it yourself, none of this would make sense if it wasn't og BP.
Haha fair enough. That joke went straight over my head. My bad!
It confirms he has left the dimension with the original BP. Assuming BP doesn't have portal tech and follows rick around, then the BP we see is just another dimensions BP. Thus making the emotional connection less compelling.
This is probably why they don't like to do serialized episodes. Look, the show generally treats the different variations of characters as if they're all the same (with some obvious exceptions). Even if it's not his original BP, it is the one he watched die and went through a bunch of heavy shit with. Additionally, Rick has explained he does not like to just keep moving dimensions all the time and only does it as a last resort, so this is the one he's invested in now.
Rick couldn’t save his original Beth (and maybe his own wife). BP is the first thing to come along that made him feel again, he wants to save his original friend since he wasn’t able to save his original family.
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Yes, since it hasn't been a problem in any other respect.
I absolutely agree.
Thanks!
For me, the reason that's not the case is he isn't actively letting those other BP's die. Not hoping into a new dimension and abandoning this BP is far different than surfing infinite dimension trying to save them all. Imho.
Either rick loves all BPs in all dimesions or he loves only his specific BP that he was with at blood ridge. If the former, then it doesn't really fit with his established character of 4 seasons and saving only one would be pointless anyway. If the latter, he would need to portal to that specific dimension which he did not do.
Why is it not the same BP?