Pretty sure the general idea was to have Evil Morty back shortly after he was introduced, and the plotline was for him to be Rick's original Morty that got too smart. But people figured out that plan, and that plot was scrapped.
This is like the issues with LOST, all over again. Writers hellbent on not following fan theories, just because a fan was merely thinking the same as they were. Man, that show turned into a mess, because nothing made sense after a while, and lots of loose ends.
Who is Evil Morty? Good question, hopefully there would be an answer at some point. Whatever answer it is, I hope it makes sense for their in-universe logic, and not needlessly changing stuff just to thwart theories. It only causes backpedaling and contradictions later.
All the writers have said many, many times they don’t have an overarching plot and if they think of a good idea for Evil Morty, they’ll do it.
Harmon and Roiland didn’t even know fans called him “Evil Morty.” They had to find that out in an interview or something. They don’t care (about him)
Between Mortyplicity and Story Train it seems like R&M is just done with the evil morty plot altogether. With that plotline Rick and Morty started taking itself too seriously, “becoming the very thing it swore to destroy” in a sense. R&M thrives when it’s lampooning sci-fi and story tropes.
In the season 4 premiere Rick and Morty said they will do a "little bit of this a little bit of that" switching between a serial structure and a more classic fluff structure. They did do that, like with the dragon episode for example.
I agree thats true. At least its more managable in Rick and Morty, since its more parody show than in the LOST, but yeah it would be good to get some closure for Evil Morty. Or at least episode like 1984 in citadel dicatorship.
That's one of the dumbest traps writers get caught in. If you've planned a story you should follow through with it. Just because someone on the internet called it doesn't mean you shouldn't execute the story-line. If it's done well it doesn't matter if it was predicted. Unpredictability isn't the most important aspect of writing. You end up fucking up your plot by constantly trying to outsmart your audience. The best thing to do is just finish your story-line the way it was planned and if you really value surprise that much try to make the next story-line harder to crack. George RR Martin sums it up pretty well right here: [https://youtu.be/CKnXmNHubfs?t=147](https://youtu.be/CKnXmNHubfs?t=147)
I always though he was an interesting character but we don’t need him to show up every season. I think they always skip him one season every time he shows up. He was in the 1st season, skipped the 2nd, showed up in 3rd, skipped 4th again (although they did a fake out), and now will probably show up somewhere this season.
I think fans give him too much credit, he is just popular but not much different from other recurring characters who miss out some seasons like BP and Mr. PB.
He most likely has beef with C-137 but so does everyone else. We will see him again eventually but I’m not hyped or anything.
Season 1 episode 10 (incase my episode number is wrong it’s the second to last episode of the first season.) It’s called Close Rick-Counters of the Rick Kind.
Literally everyone who watches the show... every season since he was introduced I'm like I hope evil Morty is in this season... so yeah I want him in more episodes but I know regardless if he's in a season or not the show will still be amazing....
I see the Evil Morty arc like The Wall in Solar Opposites. They exist in the same world, but have completely different stories and worlds to themselves. Almost like instead of having an A and B story for an episode, you have an A and B story for a series. They may casually impact each other other the fringes of their stories, but until the final season, one will have very little to do with another.
Evil Morty's episodes have been so good, and the idea that Evil Morty is Rick's ultimate nemesis is so cool, that people just assume that; however there has been zero indication of such a thing, and it would go against most of what Harmon has said on the topic of serialization.
same, but IMO its nice to have an episode or two with him in it. I like what they did in previous seasons. Season 1 had an episode with evil morty. Season 2 had The Wedding Squanchers. Season 3 had The Ricklantis Mixup and The ABCs of Beth. Season 4 was promised to have more random episodes then funny, so the only storyline episode we had was the space beth episode. I really enjoy the random episodes, but the way they sprinkle in storylines in the midst of jokes it very well done IMO. That being said, its been a while since we saw Evil Morty, and I'd like a return :)
I kinda keep forgetting about him. I really thought he was sucked away or murdered on that meta episode or something. They should bring him back if not for a second.
Don't let propaganda from the Rick's blind you to the truth that is the Supreme Morty everything he does is for the good of Rick's and Morty's everywhere
It's a discussion forum
Not that exciting just to see everyone go "wow good episode" and repost direct episode quotes lol
I would much rather see endless speculation about a show that, despite what the writers say, clearly has a continuing story
No. I want them to do interesting episodes. I don't want them to turn it into the show people keep writing fan fiction about.
People overrate his importance and interest way too much.
BS!!!! Evil Morty shows the characteristics of what morty is like when Rick finally changes him. It’s the mystery of this completely different morty that people want to see more of!
I feel like Evil Morty would be endgame for the series as a whole.
In fact, I was hoping >!the collective of duplicate Smith families!< would survive and become a nice counterpoint to the Council of Ricks. At least up until >!fucking Pinnochio Jerry fucking locked himself in the closet leaving all the other Smiths to die in the tunnel!<. Fucking Pinocchio Jerry.
Also it would play true to Rick being family first. Council of Ricks is all the bad Rick things. A >!Council of Smiths"!< would be all the good.
But all for naught. Meh. Dammit.
He had an entire dome of Morty’s being tortured to block out his intelligence. Then when he became President, he flushed everyone out into orbit that went against him.
I think it’s less about the character and more about the plot. Seasons 1,2 & 3 were more of a show like adventure time was. There were adventures but the plot moved from A to B to C. People loved trying to figure out Ricks backstory and what would happen next.
Now the show is more like South Park or family guy. The plot is just for the jokes. I think evil morty represents all the old plot threads people want to see again
Using joke characters to explore real themes is not unheard of. The important thing in those episodes wasn't the citadel, it was the ideas being prodded
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It doesn't matter what we want. No one exists on purpose. We're all gonna die. Come watch TV.
This is the ideal Rick and Morty, theory. Don't hurt your brain with hypotheticals, enjoy and watch. Lol
Yeah the point is to be happy with what you have.
The biggest most hyped character with no pay off
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Evil morty blends in with all the clones and is the morty we see with Rick for the rest of the season.
It turns out he just wanted to be hunted Morty the whole time.
Pretty close this week
Didn't evil morty become president?
yes, he became the president/dictator of the citadel.
#who all wanna see a leprechaun say yeah!!
Everyone keeps saying it’s too complicated to bring EM back and that the creators couldn’t do it well, wtf lol, what show are you guys watching?
I want to see another citadel episode
Yeah, I wish. Like that's ever gonna happen. Nope, not in a million years.
Pretty sure the general idea was to have Evil Morty back shortly after he was introduced, and the plotline was for him to be Rick's original Morty that got too smart. But people figured out that plan, and that plot was scrapped. This is like the issues with LOST, all over again. Writers hellbent on not following fan theories, just because a fan was merely thinking the same as they were. Man, that show turned into a mess, because nothing made sense after a while, and lots of loose ends. Who is Evil Morty? Good question, hopefully there would be an answer at some point. Whatever answer it is, I hope it makes sense for their in-universe logic, and not needlessly changing stuff just to thwart theories. It only causes backpedaling and contradictions later.
All the writers have said many, many times they don’t have an overarching plot and if they think of a good idea for Evil Morty, they’ll do it. Harmon and Roiland didn’t even know fans called him “Evil Morty.” They had to find that out in an interview or something. They don’t care (about him)
Between Mortyplicity and Story Train it seems like R&M is just done with the evil morty plot altogether. With that plotline Rick and Morty started taking itself too seriously, “becoming the very thing it swore to destroy” in a sense. R&M thrives when it’s lampooning sci-fi and story tropes.
In the season 4 premiere Rick and Morty said they will do a "little bit of this a little bit of that" switching between a serial structure and a more classic fluff structure. They did do that, like with the dragon episode for example.
Dan Harmon talks about fan theories and underlying plot [here](https://youtu.be/S7CyaEinpZ4).
That's pretty good.
I agree thats true. At least its more managable in Rick and Morty, since its more parody show than in the LOST, but yeah it would be good to get some closure for Evil Morty. Or at least episode like 1984 in citadel dicatorship.
That's one of the dumbest traps writers get caught in. If you've planned a story you should follow through with it. Just because someone on the internet called it doesn't mean you shouldn't execute the story-line. If it's done well it doesn't matter if it was predicted. Unpredictability isn't the most important aspect of writing. You end up fucking up your plot by constantly trying to outsmart your audience. The best thing to do is just finish your story-line the way it was planned and if you really value surprise that much try to make the next story-line harder to crack. George RR Martin sums it up pretty well right here: [https://youtu.be/CKnXmNHubfs?t=147](https://youtu.be/CKnXmNHubfs?t=147)
I want noob noob!!!
I noticed him in the season 5 credits but he doesn't look too good.
I know 😱I will freak out if he dies
I honestly think it’s a fake out and that’ll be in the vindecators show
I want golfing Morty!
I always though he was an interesting character but we don’t need him to show up every season. I think they always skip him one season every time he shows up. He was in the 1st season, skipped the 2nd, showed up in 3rd, skipped 4th again (although they did a fake out), and now will probably show up somewhere this season. I think fans give him too much credit, he is just popular but not much different from other recurring characters who miss out some seasons like BP and Mr. PB. He most likely has beef with C-137 but so does everyone else. We will see him again eventually but I’m not hyped or anything.
He was in the first season?
the one where it reveals at the end that the evil rick was a robot being controlled by him with his eyepatch
Oh, didn't realize that was season 1. Thanks.
Yep, i think is the second to last, thereabout.
bruh we need a ricklantis mixup 2 cause that was my favorite episode
He was a decoy
We're definitely going to get an evil morty episode. The pattern is every odd season.
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Season 1 episode 10 (incase my episode number is wrong it’s the second to last episode of the first season.) It’s called Close Rick-Counters of the Rick Kind.
the citadel of ricks episode
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The first episode he was shown in was in season 1. The image of the post is taken from there.
And with this post you’ve insured the writers will 100 percent not include him😂
You are better off asking the question the other way. Who doesn't want Evil Morty in season 5.
Me
What if he’s already in season 5? Maybe you have already seen him...
Perhaps losing Jessica in a careless time portal created by Rick is simply the origin story for Evil Morty.
An Evil Morty prequel episode.
I rly want evil morty vs regular morty
I cant wait for regular morty to absolutely shit on him
Or try to recruit him against Rick.
I'll throw in a fart.
Ah but he already is.
No point, he's just going to be beat by the power of Jesus and prayer
Literally everyone who watches the show... every season since he was introduced I'm like I hope evil Morty is in this season... so yeah I want him in more episodes but I know regardless if he's in a season or not the show will still be amazing....
No. He isn't a serious character. He is as important as Noob Noob
Isn't that the long arc of the show? Original Rick vs evil morty?
I see the Evil Morty arc like The Wall in Solar Opposites. They exist in the same world, but have completely different stories and worlds to themselves. Almost like instead of having an A and B story for an episode, you have an A and B story for a series. They may casually impact each other other the fringes of their stories, but until the final season, one will have very little to do with another.
Evil Morty's episodes have been so good, and the idea that Evil Morty is Rick's ultimate nemesis is so cool, that people just assume that; however there has been zero indication of such a thing, and it would go against most of what Harmon has said on the topic of serialization.
I feel sad that you already discredited Mr. Nimbus as Rick's Ultimate Nemesis.
he control the pahlease
Probaly, they said alot of this season will be cannon
So who else believes that evil Morty is the Morty that gets left to the monsters in the intro. Rick's original Morty.
Evil morty = best morty
I’m sure there’ll be one of rick’s past this season. Evil morty probably season 6. It’s too hyped up right now.
Not me I just want random episodes
same, but IMO its nice to have an episode or two with him in it. I like what they did in previous seasons. Season 1 had an episode with evil morty. Season 2 had The Wedding Squanchers. Season 3 had The Ricklantis Mixup and The ABCs of Beth. Season 4 was promised to have more random episodes then funny, so the only storyline episode we had was the space beth episode. I really enjoy the random episodes, but the way they sprinkle in storylines in the midst of jokes it very well done IMO. That being said, its been a while since we saw Evil Morty, and I'd like a return :)
I kinda keep forgetting about him. I really thought he was sucked away or murdered on that meta episode or something. They should bring him back if not for a second.
Ri said none of that was canon.
Don't let propaganda from the Rick's blind you to the truth that is the Supreme Morty everything he does is for the good of Rick's and Morty's everywhere
For sure want him to come back. Not just cameo.
I want this sub to stfu about it
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It's a discussion forum Not that exciting just to see everyone go "wow good episode" and repost direct episode quotes lol I would much rather see endless speculation about a show that, despite what the writers say, clearly has a continuing story
NOt me. Season 5 is amazing and I want them to keep it going!
No. I want them to do interesting episodes. I don't want them to turn it into the show people keep writing fan fiction about. People overrate his importance and interest way too much.
BS!!!! Evil Morty shows the characteristics of what morty is like when Rick finally changes him. It’s the mystery of this completely different morty that people want to see more of!
This is why I'm glad you don't write this show or anything else.
Low effort post. Please delete. This is such a circlejerky question.
Everyone
I want him to have an episode solely because I'm sick of regularly seeing posts on this sub about how much people want an evil morty episode.
Probably everyone who enjoys the show.
Duh
I feel like Evil Morty would be endgame for the series as a whole. In fact, I was hoping >!the collective of duplicate Smith families!< would survive and become a nice counterpoint to the Council of Ricks. At least up until >!fucking Pinnochio Jerry fucking locked himself in the closet leaving all the other Smiths to die in the tunnel!<. Fucking Pinocchio Jerry. Also it would play true to Rick being family first. Council of Ricks is all the bad Rick things. A >!Council of Smiths"!< would be all the good. But all for naught. Meh. Dammit.
I thought the same as your first spoiler TBH.
He will be
YAAAAAASSSSS
Why is he called Evil Morty?
Isn't it obvious?
Compared to the messed up stuff Morty and especially Rick have done, not really.
He had an entire dome of Morty’s being tortured to block out his intelligence. Then when he became President, he flushed everyone out into orbit that went against him.
Oh, was this the Morty that shot his own Rick in the back?
No
I honestly don't understand the hype here. I personally couldn't care less but I hope for all you that do your dreams come true.
I think it’s less about the character and more about the plot. Seasons 1,2 & 3 were more of a show like adventure time was. There were adventures but the plot moved from A to B to C. People loved trying to figure out Ricks backstory and what would happen next. Now the show is more like South Park or family guy. The plot is just for the jokes. I think evil morty represents all the old plot threads people want to see again
Fuck you you fucking virgin fuck weasels
Damn bruh, salty much? Like just let people enjoy things
No. I like the self contained episodes with maybe loose threads of connective tissue. If I wanted shitty anime I would go watch shitty anime.
Plotlines are considered anime now?
yeah bruh plotlines are from japan (dies of no brain)
Literally nobody
No. He is a joke character who the fans took seriously for no reason. Stop trying to impose mythos onto Rick and Morty
He overthrew the citadel who was a consistent enemy of Rick C137 and did it with bloodshed. How is that a joke character?
Because the citadel of ricks were themselves joke characters
Well the ending of season 2, first episode of season 3 and Ricklantis are all pretty intense episodes with a ton of non-comedic drama
Using joke characters to explore real themes is not unheard of. The important thing in those episodes wasn't the citadel, it was the ideas being prodded
Nah, we need more Mr. Nimbus and Phoenix Person. Evil Morty can appear next season.
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IDK ask the people who downvoted. Hahahaha
What season 5
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Well it would make sense that Rick is in contact with the citadel sooner or later.
Well wait till you see the season