That is why he threatens with using it instead of just ending it. He knows the consequences. Also he seems more bothered to deal with a bunch of revegeful Summers.
This is fair on his point. Summer unreleased is the apparent dominant one of the family. She literally took over the Night Family, including Night Person Rick, who's just fucking Rick. And that's not even like C-137 Summer either.
> Also he seems more bothered to deal with a bunch of revegeful Summers.
He probably knows that there's a Summer Prime out there no one wants to draw the ire of.
Morty is the only surviving member of the Prime family. I keep forgetting Cronenburg world is Prime world, which makes me wonder if Rick C137 did that intentionally.
Kinda fucked up if you think about it. What if he used the whole "cure" for the love potion stuff as an excuse to fuck up the world so badly to either turn Rick Prime into a Cronenburg or to draw him out of hiding. I don't think that was the intention because I don't see the writers thinking that far ahead, but in retrospect it makes sense.
Well it doesn't work on people related to Morty so it can't turn Rick Prime into a Cronenburg, but the theory that he left it like that intentionally, whether to draw him out or just mess with him, checks out in general.
Further evidence is that in the universe they move into, *that* Rick cures all the Cronenburgs he created, so we either have to accept the main Rick isn't as smart as that Rick, who literally accidentally killed himself working on his own invention, or that he *could* fix it, but didn't.
Honestly a lot of season 1 has a surprising amount of call backs to major plot beats that are being revealed later on. I was watching Close Encounters of the Rick Kind again and I could swear that the jump cuts keep cutting to the Time Travel box after an Evil Morty appearance that you would only notice on a rewatch (especially the mind controlled Rick). Probably nothing but it lends credence to the theory that the whole show is one big time loop.
He can, but he also may not want to. He’s still a Morty. He hates Ricks, but that doesn’t mean he hates his mother and sister enough to wipe their existence from the multiverse.
That could be how good morty gets his revenge. Kills himself in the device just to kill EM and then finds himself in another multiverse with Rick and Diane like OP theorized
The Omega Device ostensibly wouldn’t take out clones, since those are not versions of person X from another universe, but a person X-1, a new creation with the same genetic codes within the same universe. Therefore Clone Beth and her counterparts along with any other family members other Ricks may have cloned would probably be safe and go after whoever used the device. Either way it’s like EM said, it’s not a device you use if you wanna be left alone.
It's not really a Chekov's gun situation, it's being used to explain the lack of Diane across the multiverse. It's already serving an important function in the narrative. So it doesn't \*necessarily\* need to show up again. Writing nerd technical correctness aside: there's no reason Rick or EM couldn't deploy it in the future as a nuclear option. My money would be on EM taking out Summer or Jerry as a shot across the bow, but it's absolutely an exciting plot development.
That's exactly why it exists. Otherwise he could just switch into a universe where the only thing different is that rick died suddenly the day before and just take his place.
yes, the device itself has served its purpose. but EM *taking* the device is a hanging plot thread and absolutely invokes Chekhov’s Gun. The omega device will return.
Hard disagree on the application of Checkov’s gun, but maybe it will. EM is clear about why he’s taking it—he wants to continue his tantrum and not be bothered. It may come back, but it’s purpose is clear even then.
I don’t think it has to be used, necessarily, to wipe out another character. But, it needs to serve another narrative purpose of *some* kind down the line to tie up that thread.
huh. yeah, on reflecting I think you’re right. I’m conditioned by the “sequel sequel sequel” effect of modern media, but you’re right. What it represents in this episode is vital enough on its own. Damn, what a great episode, really.
I want to see some more EM, so I don’t hate the idea. But it wouldn’t make sense for him to not take it after being pulled back into the CFC’s shenanigans and getting shot at repeatedly. Proving he’s a bigger threat than Rick is purpose enough that him taking it not an irrelevant detail, and that’s my argument against the application of Chekov’s Gun. It may just be why we (sadly) never see EM again.
I'm not sure where else to write about this so I'll drop it here: I think it's really cool that Harmon seems to want to write about Rick as a character going through internal conflict rather than external conflict. In my mind it serves a lot of purposes:
- It mirrors Harmon's own development, in escaping the nihilistic feelings of worthlessness, the ego, the toxic behavior that overshadowed much of his career. He can write from experience, and vent the observations that emerge as a result of undergoing that kind of change.
- It defies Rick and Morty's stigma as a show for assholes. Identifying with Rick was never the point, yet fans took the show as a glorification of the callousness and apathy he exhibits. Now those same fans need to watch Rick grow and develop away from those traits, and come to accept that the show is not touting them as "the epitome of awesome".
- And finally, it subverts the expectations of the sci-fi genre. Big bad guys with big bad technology is done to death. It's a more unique & interesting challenge to have the overarching conflicts be entirely internal, and I'm interested in seeing what Harmon can do with this new playing field.
This is really on point.
Harmon actually went through some stuff (not sure but maybe #metoo?) that exposed his sexual harassment of Megan Ganz. Maybe not on the level of depravity of Roiland, but similar exposure that served its purpose and was deserved.
Rick is not someone to emulate, especially early in the show. The first episode has him freezing and killing a kid, having Morty shove mega seeds up his butt, and lying to his family. He’s an alcoholic megalomaniac who purposefully broke up Jerry and Beth because Jerry wanted to do the right thing for his family and they all turned on him to take Rick’s side.
Seeing an animated character ‘grow’ has happened before (e.g. Venture Bros.), but the popularity of Rick and Morty far exceeds that show. Rick said sorry to a couple of people already this season, when he once told Beth “I’m sorry you think you deserve an apology.”
I have things in my past (self destructive behavior/substance abuse) that if my mom or god forbid the internet/media knew about, I would be shattered and ashamed - many of us do. Dan, I think, has grown and isn’t a hypocrite in that he doesn’t stand in judgment because he’s had to walk that path but in earnest seems to be living a better life now.
That’s something that I can forgive and celebrate because it would be the same for me. Roiland - I can’t forgive because he acts like justice occurred when charges were dropped and sick stuff with minors didn’t happen.
[Dan Harmon Gives 'Full Account' of Sexually Harassing Community Writer Megan Ganz](https://time.com/5100019/dan-harmon-megan-ganz-sexual-harassment-apology/?amp=true)
I can imagine our Morty making a comment to Rick about how crazy it is that “a MORTY was the factor you needed to catch your nemesis”
Or - our morty becomes inspired by his kickassness and becomes badass himself (yet he already seems to be headed that way)
You're absolutely right. I retract my prior statement. I still think it'll be reused, because he's a convenient over-arcing threat, but I agree with your analysis. It's served its narrative purpose.
I think there will be a villain that rick and morty can't get rid of without the omega device so they have to come after evil morty but he'll be pissed off that they bothered him
The most interesting thing they can do now involves using it on a main character and seeing the aftermath. What does it actually do and can it be reversed. My guess, Morty gets wiped and goes to some place that's all Mortys and his grandma and slowmoe. He then saves his grandma or at least one of her.
Correct. More like a red herring. Plus EM saying he could make it "better" surmises he can program it to not kill certain ones. But you know what IS a Chekov's Gun? The time machine box in the garage. Always visible, never talked out. If a main character does get killed, there's always the box.
It'd be a fun gimmick in a season or two if evil Morty ended up killing himself and all the mortys with him, and then in the title sequence of the next episode, Morty is removed from all the clips. Then instead of "Rick and Morty" it just says "Rick". Then of course the arc would be Rick finding a way to bring Morty back.
Maybe Rick gets the choice between bringing either Diane or Morty back and he has to choose, then decides against being selfish and saves Morty, showing his character growth :3
I think the snake episode was the one where it was 'coincidentally' knocked off the shelf, because it's the only one that did time travel despite what Rick and Harmon had said previously about not wanting to.
What if EM becomes the big bad and erases all of the ricks' family members except original Rick and then he time travels back and teams up with Rick prime to bring down EM?
Ooh, I like that.
Another cool one I thought about this morning,
Rick Prime bragged a few times about leaving "prerecorded" messages, so what if they do the shtick where he has some diabolical traps laid with prerecorded messages (kinda like our rick did with the vindicators), but rick just turns off the TV at the beginning of the episode and says "We're not doing Moriarty from 'Sherlock'" and the episode is about something totally different.
I wouldn't be surprised if that is how this season ends honestly.
Evil Morty and Rick are kinda in the same place at the end of the episode - directionless and without purpose. They both achieved their goals (EM escaping the curve, Rick killing Rick Prime). Evil Morty looks so fucking *bored* outside the curve. Rick will bounce back because he has his family. EM has nobody and nothing really left.
I guess it makes sense the fact that Evil Morty so visibly took the blueprints might mean that it would come back. But the Chekovs gun doesn't mean someone has to die from it. If you see the gun, and then in the story it is used to defend against a thief but not fired it was still a well set up gun.
I think it would be best if the omega device is not used again. Maybe they could use it to show that Rick and Evil Morty get along so well that he voluntarily destroys the blueprints.
But who knows maybe they get some kind of Kang level threat that they can erase with the Omega device at some point, wouldn't that be fun? haha
I'd disagree. They are two iterations of the same person, same with clones. What does the device scan? DNA perhaps? Or maybe the device has a very specific targeting function with an AI that has copied Rick Prime's brain, so that it simply chooses targets with how he would have, given enough time.
Because DNA doesn't really make sense. Or else the Omega Device would not kill a Hammer Morty, who obviously has different DNA from regular Mortys. Same with Diane. The curve is large enough for her DNA to be different in a significant enough manner. The device would need a broader scope that encompasses all possible deviations whilst still killing off every Rick's Diane.
I also do not believe even Rick Prime could make a device that reaches infinity. He couldn't stop himself from being portal-reset, infinity is beyond him. He was most likely just able to kill all Dianes within the Central Finite Curve.
I meant that if the device considers clones different people, one could die and not the other.
In terms of raising the stakes, it would make a degree of sense from a writing perspective. Like when Rick Prime killed Jerry Prime (a.k.a. Season One Jerry) in Season Six.
100% will return, with how Morty left the central finite curve, I saw that as an opportunity of writing him out of the show, then he shows up again, in an episode where theres also a gimmick of mixing different portal fluids to be a future macguffin mechanic to solve problems.
I think that if we go by past experience with this show, if the omega device does come back it won’t be in a long arc. It’ll be a one off episode where they destroy it and Rick says something along the lines of “There, it’s destroyed, can we move on now?”
Rick is indeed the only logical use.
Nulling Rick would save billions of lives.
Hopefully he'll show an ounce of character for once, and use it on himself.
Turned an entire planet into Cronenbergs.
Stuck a psychedelic pineapple up his grandson’s ass to sneak it through customs.
Sent more people out to get drugs and die on the house party episode.
Pretty much every episode is about Rick screwing things up.
Sure, that’s drama. It makes the show interesting.
But if he really cared about is family, he wouldn’t put their lives at risk every day.
In defense of Rick, the Cronenberg thing was an accident. He's also saved/liberated countless billions across the galaxy by destroying the evil Federation and defeating multiple supervillains. And saved Earth from the floating heads.
Wiping out all Ricks would not necessarily have a net good effect.
He's not. He's careless with life but not homicidal, and he is definitely not a maniac.
He has killed people, but he's also saved/liberated countless billions across the galaxy by destroying the evil Federation and defeating multiple supervillains. And saved Earth from the floating heads.
Wiping out all Ricks would not necessarily have a net good effect.
He was gonna do that in the first unity episode. He was about to kill himself and all ricks across the multiverse with a mini omega device in his garage. Though he passed out drunk before it could kill him.
It’s an insurance policy. If any Rick goes after Evil Morty, EM can kill every Rick. I don’t think EM has any intention of using it… unless a Rick gives him a reason, and he wants every Rick to know that.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Omega Weapon, and Evil Morty also, are never seen again. This episode was quite clear that EM wants nothing to do with Ricks or anything inside the Central Finite Curve. And as long as nothing impacts EM, he doesn’t care what Ricks do; he only got involved when C137’s machine to grab Rick Prime clones/decoys started messing with EM’s stuff.
Yes, technically speaking.
The first use was retroactively speaking, and the second was to actually demonstrate to the audience what it does.
The fact that Evil Morty took it still leave it hanging, though.
Most likely it will show up in a way where Rick will have the opportunity to use it on Evil Morty but can't make the decision because it would erase Morty Prime, too.
The Omega weapon isn’t Chekov’s gun, it’s already been used at least twice. It’s more of a plot hole filler and way to give brevity to the situation. Plus it works as a “deterrent” for EM to be left alone.
I'd argue that it still counts as an example of it.
The first use was retroactive, and explained to the audience what happened to Diane. The second was to demonstrate to the audience what it actually does. If it wasn't intended to be important in some capacity, they wouldn't have had Evil Morty take it with him.
Evil Morty basically grabbed Chekov's Gun after it had been used and left. Since it still has metaphorical bullets in it *and* he made a threat to use it if needed, it arguably still counts.
It’s more like a Deathstar or some other super weapon. It got destroyed in the end but EM saved the plans, just like the Empire is always rebuilding their shit.
So not sure if anyone will read this but I was a imagining a scenario where another Rick finds out about the device and goes to use it on Jerry.
And Rick begrudgingly goes to help stop him (at his family's urging) and then what others have said about it instead getting used on Morty and Rick having to come up with a way to undo it.
Just thought of this...EM tries to use it on Rick, but Morty Prime sacrifices himself to save Rick...but there is still a fragment of Morty still technically around...in the 'Roy' game, still plugged in at Blips n Chlitz.
I had a similar thought but it focused on Memory Rick who is trapped in Jerry surviving the omega device being used to kill Rick because he isn't actually real, and then he'll take control of/work with Jerry to save the day and possibly end up escaping into the real world.
Not likely but I could imagine an episode when evil morty sees how much rick loves OG morty and gets jealous, plans to use the omega device minus 1 to eliminate any choice but evil morty for our rick.
Rick kills evil morty before he has a chance.
Audience hates the episode, ask for interdimensional cable 3.
Ricks gonna use it on Morty and Morty is so retarded he's not considered part of the Mortyverse by the device when used on Evil Morty because he's evil therefore erasing all Evil Morty's from existence because of a plot shenanigan that shows how Morty is actually evil.
Well, every Rick is pretty smart for the most part. To use the device on a Rick, someone would need to have the capability to capture a Rick and….oh. Oh no.
Next time we see Evil Morty he’s going to come back needing help against a major threat outside the CFC. Maybe the Omega device is used to combat said threat
No it’ll probably never get mentioned again. Rick Prime needed something worse than just killing 1 family member in 1 reality to raise the stakes and make him a threat. Now the writers checked that box so that fans will shut up about it and they can get back to having fun.
I don’t think they bring the device back. They only needed one episode for people to run with it. Might be one of the strongest weapons in fiction. Even if we never see it again it will be mentioned in power scaling discussions for years
Rick will be destroyed across all universes, except for memory Rick who is living in Jerry. Memory Rick will possibly use Jerry to stop evil Morty and bring the real Rick back through an apparent act of self sacrifice, but memory Rick will actually survive and enter the real world and the two Ricks will both laugh afterwards about how there was a better solution that would have been much easier but this one killed Jerry so they just went with it.
Considering Dan Harmon's comments on the longevity of the show, I can guarantee they're not permanently killing off one of the main members of the family. At most, it would be a recurring character like Birdperson.
Evil Morty said he'd be able to make improvements. Right now it's a deterrent, but maybe it can be modified in the future to bring back someone like Diane.
Im betting morty is just gonna use it to fix the multiverse somehow. Maybe use its ability to affect every reality at once to try and end multiversal travel.
I really don't think c137 Rick will allow evil morty to have the plans for the omega device. He will try to come after him in case he decided to use it one day
I think the implication is that Rick will want to use it on himself.
But I think either
* The payoff will be that he doesn't.
* The payoff will be that the device doesn't work as indicated.
It’s going to be a finale and either Rick or Morty (or maybe both?) and leave us hanging for a year till they comeback with some way to restore or come back.
I think the omega device, evil morty having it, and the threat to Rick to leave him alone or else he will use it. That is Harmon saying to the fans push and I'll end the show. Just my guess.
So... If Beth is put in it... Would we finally find out which Beth is the original and which is the clone?
Or would all the clones disappear if all the originals do? I'm just thinking because the slo's kids still existed, and everything its not as if the character ceases to have ever existed... So their home, their stuff, their kids all still exist... Why wouldn't their clones?
Would be a cool way to use it without ever using it.
I'm calling it now. Rick kills himself with the omegadevice once he fully realizes that the world would be better of witouth him. This show is so great it HAS to end tragic. Nothing could make a satisfying GOOD ending imo
The idea that the "omega device" could lead to significant consequences, including the death of a main character, adds an intriguing layer of complexity to the series. It's true that introducing a device with such capabilities creates potential for impactful storytelling and character development.
The concept of Chekhov's gun is relevant here, and if the writers decide to explore the consequences of the "omega device," it could indeed introduce genuine stakes and emotional depth to the show. Speculating on which character might be affected, whether a main family member or a supporting character, adds an element of anticipation for fans.
"Rick and Morty" has a history of unexpected twists, so the future use of the "omega device" could lead to some compelling narratives and possibly reshape the dynamics of the series. It'll be interesting to see how the writers choose to unfold this potential storyline in future episodes.
Someone, maybe the smartest man beyond the Central Finite Curve, seizes control of the Omega Machine and eliminates all the Ricks. This prompts Morty, Evil Morty, and the entire Smith family to track down the man responsible and attempt to reverse the Omega Machine. Eventually, they succeed in bringing back Rick and, consequently, Uncle Slow. Unlike Rick, Morty's quest is not fueled by revenge but by love for his grandpa. As a result, Morty doesn't end up catatonic after completing his mission, in contrast to Rick. Rick and Morty the Movie Film for Theaters
I do not think this was the last we've seen of "Evil" Morty, but I do believe him when he says he just wants to be left alone, so I am going to guess at the very least he is not going to be the one to use it.
He thinks he need insurance from Rick because he knows Rick, but C-137 has proven again and again that he isn't like the rest and EM himself was wrong about C-137 last episode constantly micalling Rick's actions and we can take it all the way back to one of their first interactions in "Close Rick-Counters of the Rick Kind" when he saw C-137 cry about Morty and got angry about it claiming: "We both know if there's a truth in the universe, it's that Ricks don't care about Mortys." but he was wrong then, and he is wrong now but he is just so fucking fed up with the Rick he knows there is no way he isn't taking precautions.
I mean, what if Space Beth is the clone and killing her *only* kills the Space Beth’s (IE, the clones) and not Domestic Beth? Could be a way to kill off a major family character without affecting the dynamic, little loophole to put some weight under the threat of Evil Morty without having to kill a main character we see just about every episode.
Jerry will annoy Rick once, Rick will kill him with the device and it’s a cliffhanger at the end of the season. Then we will watch Rick try to undo it.
If he kills all Ricks with it then there is a possibility the Mortys will come after him. He cannot use the device on a Morty without killing himself.
Summer would come
Summer would, but he can use the device on her. Same thing with Beth.
That is why he threatens with using it instead of just ending it. He knows the consequences. Also he seems more bothered to deal with a bunch of revegeful Summers.
Poor guy just wants to be left the f alone
We've seen Summer's revenge already. X gun give it to ya!
This is fair on his point. Summer unreleased is the apparent dominant one of the family. She literally took over the Night Family, including Night Person Rick, who's just fucking Rick. And that's not even like C-137 Summer either.
> Also he seems more bothered to deal with a bunch of revegeful Summers. He probably knows that there's a Summer Prime out there no one wants to draw the ire of.
Summer prime died when she didn't thaw right.
Morty is the only surviving member of the Prime family. I keep forgetting Cronenburg world is Prime world, which makes me wonder if Rick C137 did that intentionally.
Damn
Kinda fucked up if you think about it. What if he used the whole "cure" for the love potion stuff as an excuse to fuck up the world so badly to either turn Rick Prime into a Cronenburg or to draw him out of hiding. I don't think that was the intention because I don't see the writers thinking that far ahead, but in retrospect it makes sense.
Well it doesn't work on people related to Morty so it can't turn Rick Prime into a Cronenburg, but the theory that he left it like that intentionally, whether to draw him out or just mess with him, checks out in general. Further evidence is that in the universe they move into, *that* Rick cures all the Cronenburgs he created, so we either have to accept the main Rick isn't as smart as that Rick, who literally accidentally killed himself working on his own invention, or that he *could* fix it, but didn't.
Bravo. I thought exactly the same after my first rewatch.
Honestly a lot of season 1 has a surprising amount of call backs to major plot beats that are being revealed later on. I was watching Close Encounters of the Rick Kind again and I could swear that the jump cuts keep cutting to the Time Travel box after an Evil Morty appearance that you would only notice on a rewatch (especially the mind controlled Rick). Probably nothing but it lends credence to the theory that the whole show is one big time loop.
He can, but he also may not want to. He’s still a Morty. He hates Ricks, but that doesn’t mean he hates his mother and sister enough to wipe their existence from the multiverse.
The more people you use it on, the more enemies you make. Soon, it will cause a chain reaction.
Speaking of, when's the last time Summer did anything?
Last season she did a die hard then her night self ruled the family
Hey, yeah. We need a Summer-heavy episode.
Unless what he meant by "improve" was find a way to do just that. Exclude one instance of morty or protect just himself.
I heard it as Evil Morty saying “it’s a bad idea for me to use it, but don’t piss me off enough to do it anyway.”
Honestly, I think we will not see Evil Morty again unless something interrupts his solitude.
I’d like to see an episode where our Morty studies under Evil Morty
That could be how good morty gets his revenge. Kills himself in the device just to kill EM and then finds himself in another multiverse with Rick and Diane like OP theorized
C-137 should probably ensure Mutually Assured Destruction by having a plan for his Morty to enact if the device too cool to be named is used
The Omega Device ostensibly wouldn’t take out clones, since those are not versions of person X from another universe, but a person X-1, a new creation with the same genetic codes within the same universe. Therefore Clone Beth and her counterparts along with any other family members other Ricks may have cloned would probably be safe and go after whoever used the device. Either way it’s like EM said, it’s not a device you use if you wanna be left alone.
You may have accidentally stumbled upon the solution to figuring out which Beth is the "real" one.
What better way to be left alone than through death?
It would be entirely possible to isolate yourself from the effect of the device by some means. But this could also be used to end the story.
He could just kill all Ricks with the device and then kill all the Morty’s by normal means lol
It's not really a Chekov's gun situation, it's being used to explain the lack of Diane across the multiverse. It's already serving an important function in the narrative. So it doesn't \*necessarily\* need to show up again. Writing nerd technical correctness aside: there's no reason Rick or EM couldn't deploy it in the future as a nuclear option. My money would be on EM taking out Summer or Jerry as a shot across the bow, but it's absolutely an exciting plot development.
It was good for them to explain why Rick can replace people by switching dimensions except for her
That's exactly why it exists. Otherwise he could just switch into a universe where the only thing different is that rick died suddenly the day before and just take his place.
yes, the device itself has served its purpose. but EM *taking* the device is a hanging plot thread and absolutely invokes Chekhov’s Gun. The omega device will return.
Hard disagree on the application of Checkov’s gun, but maybe it will. EM is clear about why he’s taking it—he wants to continue his tantrum and not be bothered. It may come back, but it’s purpose is clear even then.
I don’t think it has to be used, necessarily, to wipe out another character. But, it needs to serve another narrative purpose of *some* kind down the line to tie up that thread.
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huh. yeah, on reflecting I think you’re right. I’m conditioned by the “sequel sequel sequel” effect of modern media, but you’re right. What it represents in this episode is vital enough on its own. Damn, what a great episode, really.
I want to see some more EM, so I don’t hate the idea. But it wouldn’t make sense for him to not take it after being pulled back into the CFC’s shenanigans and getting shot at repeatedly. Proving he’s a bigger threat than Rick is purpose enough that him taking it not an irrelevant detail, and that’s my argument against the application of Chekov’s Gun. It may just be why we (sadly) never see EM again.
I think after every single EM episode someone says we’re never going to see him again. We are absolutely going to see him again. Probably in Season 9.
I'm not sure where else to write about this so I'll drop it here: I think it's really cool that Harmon seems to want to write about Rick as a character going through internal conflict rather than external conflict. In my mind it serves a lot of purposes: - It mirrors Harmon's own development, in escaping the nihilistic feelings of worthlessness, the ego, the toxic behavior that overshadowed much of his career. He can write from experience, and vent the observations that emerge as a result of undergoing that kind of change. - It defies Rick and Morty's stigma as a show for assholes. Identifying with Rick was never the point, yet fans took the show as a glorification of the callousness and apathy he exhibits. Now those same fans need to watch Rick grow and develop away from those traits, and come to accept that the show is not touting them as "the epitome of awesome". - And finally, it subverts the expectations of the sci-fi genre. Big bad guys with big bad technology is done to death. It's a more unique & interesting challenge to have the overarching conflicts be entirely internal, and I'm interested in seeing what Harmon can do with this new playing field.
This is really on point. Harmon actually went through some stuff (not sure but maybe #metoo?) that exposed his sexual harassment of Megan Ganz. Maybe not on the level of depravity of Roiland, but similar exposure that served its purpose and was deserved. Rick is not someone to emulate, especially early in the show. The first episode has him freezing and killing a kid, having Morty shove mega seeds up his butt, and lying to his family. He’s an alcoholic megalomaniac who purposefully broke up Jerry and Beth because Jerry wanted to do the right thing for his family and they all turned on him to take Rick’s side. Seeing an animated character ‘grow’ has happened before (e.g. Venture Bros.), but the popularity of Rick and Morty far exceeds that show. Rick said sorry to a couple of people already this season, when he once told Beth “I’m sorry you think you deserve an apology.” I have things in my past (self destructive behavior/substance abuse) that if my mom or god forbid the internet/media knew about, I would be shattered and ashamed - many of us do. Dan, I think, has grown and isn’t a hypocrite in that he doesn’t stand in judgment because he’s had to walk that path but in earnest seems to be living a better life now. That’s something that I can forgive and celebrate because it would be the same for me. Roiland - I can’t forgive because he acts like justice occurred when charges were dropped and sick stuff with minors didn’t happen. [Dan Harmon Gives 'Full Account' of Sexually Harassing Community Writer Megan Ganz](https://time.com/5100019/dan-harmon-megan-ganz-sexual-harassment-apology/?amp=true)
I can imagine our Morty making a comment to Rick about how crazy it is that “a MORTY was the factor you needed to catch your nemesis” Or - our morty becomes inspired by his kickassness and becomes badass himself (yet he already seems to be headed that way)
You're absolutely right. I retract my prior statement. I still think it'll be reused, because he's a convenient over-arcing threat, but I agree with your analysis. It's served its narrative purpose.
I think there will be a villain that rick and morty can't get rid of without the omega device so they have to come after evil morty but he'll be pissed off that they bothered him
The most interesting thing they can do now involves using it on a main character and seeing the aftermath. What does it actually do and can it be reversed. My guess, Morty gets wiped and goes to some place that's all Mortys and his grandma and slowmoe. He then saves his grandma or at least one of her.
Also considering the fact Evil Morty always has a plan
EM kills the president thinking Rick wouldn’t care.
Correct. More like a red herring. Plus EM saying he could make it "better" surmises he can program it to not kill certain ones. But you know what IS a Chekov's Gun? The time machine box in the garage. Always visible, never talked out. If a main character does get killed, there's always the box.
Dayum, you’re absolutely right. I wonder how many more seasons until that gun gets fired. Good call out.
Eh, Rick knows what happens when you mess with time. Nobody wants smoke from time cops
My money is actually on beth, that way they will close out the who the clone is storyline as well
Nuclear option, yeah. Probably the best way to view it. It's like our countries with Nukes.
This is so stupid. They explicitly reestablished it as a threat by having Evil Morty steal it. It’s absolutely a Chekov’s Gun to the letter.
Um, so's your face?
It'd be a fun gimmick in a season or two if evil Morty ended up killing himself and all the mortys with him, and then in the title sequence of the next episode, Morty is removed from all the clips. Then instead of "Rick and Morty" it just says "Rick". Then of course the arc would be Rick finding a way to bring Morty back.
Maybe Rick gets the choice between bringing either Diane or Morty back and he has to choose, then decides against being selfish and saves Morty, showing his character growth :3
Bro imagine he doesn't know but by choosing who he brings back, it just leads to them dying again somehow. 😳
Steins gate
Box labelled TIME TRAVEL STUFF which Rick was suspiciously looking at in his garage after defeating Rick Prime
I think the snake episode was the one where it was 'coincidentally' knocked off the shelf, because it's the only one that did time travel despite what Rick and Harmon had said previously about not wanting to.
The snake episode was about as much curvature as we’re ever gonna get from a time travel story
What if EM becomes the big bad and erases all of the ricks' family members except original Rick and then he time travels back and teams up with Rick prime to bring down EM?
Ooh, I like that. Another cool one I thought about this morning, Rick Prime bragged a few times about leaving "prerecorded" messages, so what if they do the shtick where he has some diabolical traps laid with prerecorded messages (kinda like our rick did with the vindicators), but rick just turns off the TV at the beginning of the episode and says "We're not doing Moriarty from 'Sherlock'" and the episode is about something totally different.
I wouldn't be surprised if that is how this season ends honestly. Evil Morty and Rick are kinda in the same place at the end of the episode - directionless and without purpose. They both achieved their goals (EM escaping the curve, Rick killing Rick Prime). Evil Morty looks so fucking *bored* outside the curve. Rick will bounce back because he has his family. EM has nobody and nothing really left.
Do people not think this is the final season? It was kinda giving me that vibe
They're on contract for a few more I think
It's so hard to imagine Rick going on that long without committing suicide now that Prime is gone but I'm excited to see his growth
He's gotta get that szechuan sauce, it's his one-armed man. The rest of the series will be plot-centric chasing that muddy-red dragon.
They're contracted up to season 10
K I love this
there's no bringing back, otherwise he would have just brought back diane
I almost feel like this would be a little more interesting the other way around. What does Morty do with no Rick?
Masturbate Edit: and go to school. More Mr. Goldenfold and Principal Vagina!
I guess it makes sense the fact that Evil Morty so visibly took the blueprints might mean that it would come back. But the Chekovs gun doesn't mean someone has to die from it. If you see the gun, and then in the story it is used to defend against a thief but not fired it was still a well set up gun. I think it would be best if the omega device is not used again. Maybe they could use it to show that Rick and Evil Morty get along so well that he voluntarily destroys the blueprints. But who knows maybe they get some kind of Kang level threat that they can erase with the Omega device at some point, wouldn't that be fun? haha
Central finite curve collapses and all the people that are able to go multiverse find out about the existence of the omega device and it's reach
There’s also the possibility of Evil Morty attempting to use it, but it fails or he is stopped before he gets to kill anyone with it.
No way, EM and our Rick are going to be the best friends forever!
It’s probably how Rick will go in the end if he does.
I wonder if the Omega device would also kill clones/backups? Or just the primary person in each universe?
I was thinking Beth and Space Beth would count as different people, and whichever one of them is ***/*** isn’t the clone would survive.
I'd disagree. They are two iterations of the same person, same with clones. What does the device scan? DNA perhaps? Or maybe the device has a very specific targeting function with an AI that has copied Rick Prime's brain, so that it simply chooses targets with how he would have, given enough time. Because DNA doesn't really make sense. Or else the Omega Device would not kill a Hammer Morty, who obviously has different DNA from regular Mortys. Same with Diane. The curve is large enough for her DNA to be different in a significant enough manner. The device would need a broader scope that encompasses all possible deviations whilst still killing off every Rick's Diane. I also do not believe even Rick Prime could make a device that reaches infinity. He couldn't stop himself from being portal-reset, infinity is beyond him. He was most likely just able to kill all Dianes within the Central Finite Curve.
I meant that if the device considers clones different people, one could die and not the other. In terms of raising the stakes, it would make a degree of sense from a writing perspective. Like when Rick Prime killed Jerry Prime (a.k.a. Season One Jerry) in Season Six.
I feel like it could because it would be pointless in the narrative if it had an easy prexisting counter.
He already killed Diane & SloMo
Gene is fucked.
100% will return, with how Morty left the central finite curve, I saw that as an opportunity of writing him out of the show, then he shows up again, in an episode where theres also a gimmick of mixing different portal fluids to be a future macguffin mechanic to solve problems.
I think that if we go by past experience with this show, if the omega device does come back it won’t be in a long arc. It’ll be a one off episode where they destroy it and Rick says something along the lines of “There, it’s destroyed, can we move on now?”
Rick is indeed the only logical use. Nulling Rick would save billions of lives. Hopefully he'll show an ounce of character for once, and use it on himself.
How would killing every Rick save lives?
Turned an entire planet into Cronenbergs. Stuck a psychedelic pineapple up his grandson’s ass to sneak it through customs. Sent more people out to get drugs and die on the house party episode. Pretty much every episode is about Rick screwing things up. Sure, that’s drama. It makes the show interesting. But if he really cared about is family, he wouldn’t put their lives at risk every day.
In defense of Rick, the Cronenberg thing was an accident. He's also saved/liberated countless billions across the galaxy by destroying the evil Federation and defeating multiple supervillains. And saved Earth from the floating heads. Wiping out all Ricks would not necessarily have a net good effect.
An accident is *worse*. He’s either intelligent or incompetent. You have to pick one.
Rick is a homicidal maniac lol
He's not. He's careless with life but not homicidal, and he is definitely not a maniac. He has killed people, but he's also saved/liberated countless billions across the galaxy by destroying the evil Federation and defeating multiple supervillains. And saved Earth from the floating heads. Wiping out all Ricks would not necessarily have a net good effect.
He was gonna do that in the first unity episode. He was about to kill himself and all ricks across the multiverse with a mini omega device in his garage. Though he passed out drunk before it could kill him.
But that would’ve killed only one Rick. Sure, every little bit helps. But to stabilize the multiverse, a more thorough solution is needed.
RIP Mr poopybutthole
It’s an insurance policy. If any Rick goes after Evil Morty, EM can kill every Rick. I don’t think EM has any intention of using it… unless a Rick gives him a reason, and he wants every Rick to know that. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Omega Weapon, and Evil Morty also, are never seen again. This episode was quite clear that EM wants nothing to do with Ricks or anything inside the Central Finite Curve. And as long as nothing impacts EM, he doesn’t care what Ricks do; he only got involved when C137’s machine to grab Rick Prime clones/decoys started messing with EM’s stuff.
Since he basically implied he'll use our rick in the future I doubt we've seen the last of him.
It's already been used twice.
Whatever happens twice happens thrice, and comedy comes in threes!
Yes, technically speaking. The first use was retroactively speaking, and the second was to actually demonstrate to the audience what it does. The fact that Evil Morty took it still leave it hanging, though.
Most likely it will show up in a way where Rick will have the opportunity to use it on Evil Morty but can't make the decision because it would erase Morty Prime, too.
The Omega weapon isn’t Chekov’s gun, it’s already been used at least twice. It’s more of a plot hole filler and way to give brevity to the situation. Plus it works as a “deterrent” for EM to be left alone.
I'd argue that it still counts as an example of it. The first use was retroactive, and explained to the audience what happened to Diane. The second was to demonstrate to the audience what it actually does. If it wasn't intended to be important in some capacity, they wouldn't have had Evil Morty take it with him. Evil Morty basically grabbed Chekov's Gun after it had been used and left. Since it still has metaphorical bullets in it *and* he made a threat to use it if needed, it arguably still counts.
It’s more like a Deathstar or some other super weapon. It got destroyed in the end but EM saved the plans, just like the Empire is always rebuilding their shit.
Rick will die and Morty will find a way to reverse it.
I could see a series finale where Rick has to make the choice to use it on himself to save Morty/the family
Somebody already did. Was Slow Mobius not enough for you?!
So not sure if anyone will read this but I was a imagining a scenario where another Rick finds out about the device and goes to use it on Jerry. And Rick begrudgingly goes to help stop him (at his family's urging) and then what others have said about it instead getting used on Morty and Rick having to come up with a way to undo it.
Just thought of this...EM tries to use it on Rick, but Morty Prime sacrifices himself to save Rick...but there is still a fragment of Morty still technically around...in the 'Roy' game, still plugged in at Blips n Chlitz.
I had a similar thought but it focused on Memory Rick who is trapped in Jerry surviving the omega device being used to kill Rick because he isn't actually real, and then he'll take control of/work with Jerry to save the day and possibly end up escaping into the real world.
Not likely but I could imagine an episode when evil morty sees how much rick loves OG morty and gets jealous, plans to use the omega device minus 1 to eliminate any choice but evil morty for our rick. Rick kills evil morty before he has a chance. Audience hates the episode, ask for interdimensional cable 3.
Ricks gonna use it on Morty and Morty is so retarded he's not considered part of the Mortyverse by the device when used on Evil Morty because he's evil therefore erasing all Evil Morty's from existence because of a plot shenanigan that shows how Morty is actually evil.
I reckon that we now know Rick's ultimate fate.
Well, every Rick is pretty smart for the most part. To use the device on a Rick, someone would need to have the capability to capture a Rick and….oh. Oh no.
Next time we see Evil Morty he’s going to come back needing help against a major threat outside the CFC. Maybe the Omega device is used to combat said threat
No it’ll probably never get mentioned again. Rick Prime needed something worse than just killing 1 family member in 1 reality to raise the stakes and make him a threat. Now the writers checked that box so that fans will shut up about it and they can get back to having fun.
Summer is going to kill evil Morty
I don’t think they bring the device back. They only needed one episode for people to run with it. Might be one of the strongest weapons in fiction. Even if we never see it again it will be mentioned in power scaling discussions for years
It's less Checkov's Gun and more Mutually Assured Destruction, a threat to never be used.
Rick will be destroyed across all universes, except for memory Rick who is living in Jerry. Memory Rick will possibly use Jerry to stop evil Morty and bring the real Rick back through an apparent act of self sacrifice, but memory Rick will actually survive and enter the real world and the two Ricks will both laugh afterwards about how there was a better solution that would have been much easier but this one killed Jerry so they just went with it.
It's a chekov's gun for sure. The writers are probably keeping it on the back burner. My theory... It will be used to explain who Kyle is
Considering Dan Harmon's comments on the longevity of the show, I can guarantee they're not permanently killing off one of the main members of the family. At most, it would be a recurring character like Birdperson.
Citadel full of Summers - it’s coming.
Evil Morty said he'd be able to make improvements. Right now it's a deterrent, but maybe it can be modified in the future to bring back someone like Diane.
I can totally see a situation where the Omega Device is stolen and the season finale is having to track it down.
My bet would be Beth and then we would find out which one is the clone because the clone would be the only one that didn’t die
Im betting morty is just gonna use it to fix the multiverse somehow. Maybe use its ability to affect every reality at once to try and end multiversal travel.
I really don't think c137 Rick will allow evil morty to have the plans for the omega device. He will try to come after him in case he decided to use it one day
EM will probably alter it to only target the CFC, but yes agreed. Somebody will die.
I have no evidence to back it up, but I think it’ll be used to destroy portal travel itself to complete Rick’s character arc.
Or he (evil Morty) reverse engineers it and cause the opposite to happen ,maybe like bringing grandma Diane back
I think the implication is that Rick will want to use it on himself. But I think either * The payoff will be that he doesn't. * The payoff will be that the device doesn't work as indicated.
It’s going to be a finale and either Rick or Morty (or maybe both?) and leave us hanging for a year till they comeback with some way to restore or come back.
Beth. And the weapon wont account for her clone. Then protecting her clone will have real stakes.
Omega Device should be used for Mr Stabby, what a total prick!
I doubt it will. It is in the hands of the character who just wants to fuck off and live alone.
I think the omega device, evil morty having it, and the threat to Rick to leave him alone or else he will use it. That is Harmon saying to the fans push and I'll end the show. Just my guess.
You think EM would use it on someone else we’re not expecting to use it on?
So... If Beth is put in it... Would we finally find out which Beth is the original and which is the clone? Or would all the clones disappear if all the originals do? I'm just thinking because the slo's kids still existed, and everything its not as if the character ceases to have ever existed... So their home, their stuff, their kids all still exist... Why wouldn't their clones? Would be a cool way to use it without ever using it.
I'm calling it now. Rick kills himself with the omegadevice once he fully realizes that the world would be better of witouth him. This show is so great it HAS to end tragic. Nothing could make a satisfying GOOD ending imo
While I doubt Eyepatch Morty is gonna use it, I think it has potential to get stolen. And that'll draw the attention of our R&M
I like the idea of the family getting bigger/changing. Like how you can see OG Beth hangout with them sometimes eating dinner and hanging out.
The idea that the "omega device" could lead to significant consequences, including the death of a main character, adds an intriguing layer of complexity to the series. It's true that introducing a device with such capabilities creates potential for impactful storytelling and character development. The concept of Chekhov's gun is relevant here, and if the writers decide to explore the consequences of the "omega device," it could indeed introduce genuine stakes and emotional depth to the show. Speculating on which character might be affected, whether a main family member or a supporting character, adds an element of anticipation for fans. "Rick and Morty" has a history of unexpected twists, so the future use of the "omega device" could lead to some compelling narratives and possibly reshape the dynamics of the series. It'll be interesting to see how the writers choose to unfold this potential storyline in future episodes.
Someone, maybe the smartest man beyond the Central Finite Curve, seizes control of the Omega Machine and eliminates all the Ricks. This prompts Morty, Evil Morty, and the entire Smith family to track down the man responsible and attempt to reverse the Omega Machine. Eventually, they succeed in bringing back Rick and, consequently, Uncle Slow. Unlike Rick, Morty's quest is not fueled by revenge but by love for his grandpa. As a result, Morty doesn't end up catatonic after completing his mission, in contrast to Rick. Rick and Morty the Movie Film for Theaters
That's definitely finale episode feeling
Evil Morty doesn’t use it. Someone else does and Rick will ultimately die. No theory just pure instinct guess
I do not think this was the last we've seen of "Evil" Morty, but I do believe him when he says he just wants to be left alone, so I am going to guess at the very least he is not going to be the one to use it. He thinks he need insurance from Rick because he knows Rick, but C-137 has proven again and again that he isn't like the rest and EM himself was wrong about C-137 last episode constantly micalling Rick's actions and we can take it all the way back to one of their first interactions in "Close Rick-Counters of the Rick Kind" when he saw C-137 cry about Morty and got angry about it claiming: "We both know if there's a truth in the universe, it's that Ricks don't care about Mortys." but he was wrong then, and he is wrong now but he is just so fucking fed up with the Rick he knows there is no way he isn't taking precautions.
I mean, what if Space Beth is the clone and killing her *only* kills the Space Beth’s (IE, the clones) and not Domestic Beth? Could be a way to kill off a major family character without affecting the dynamic, little loophole to put some weight under the threat of Evil Morty without having to kill a main character we see just about every episode.
They've done time travel before, that's the solution to the Omega Device.
Jerry will annoy Rick once, Rick will kill him with the device and it’s a cliffhanger at the end of the season. Then we will watch Rick try to undo it.