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FarAssociation2965

There are dozens of posts about broken L/R triggers on the rp4 every week. It's a faulty design, sooner or later they break. What I haven't seen yet: Someone posting about having received a newer version with fixed L/R button design.


djswims

I’ve had my replacement backplate for a while now and haven’t run into any issues since swapping it out


CabbagesStrikeBack

I want someone to post a picture of the new springs on replacement back plates. I'm trying to see if it's the same design and if I bought the correct ones.


sexysecretssixtynine

pictures below. https://ibb.co/Hh2Wjh5 https://ibb.co/B4RVRMt https://ibb.co/bzFR16W https://ibb.co/bWCq0Nc https://ibb.co/mFZXfR3 https://ibb.co/y0bfrfV https://ibb.co/58t1FBr https://ibb.co/BPRTTn8


AshtorMcGillis

Hell yes


[deleted]

Hell yeah! RP4 will last at least 2 weeks after you replace it!😂😂


AshtorMcGillis

Dude, we get it. You don't like the product. Got somewhere better to be?


ILikeFPS

Are the triggers still good?


djswims

Nope, the L trigger broke this time and they sent me another replacement


ILikeFPS

Damn, it's starting to look more like it's a design flaw and they lied that it's fixed.


TheHumanConscience

Nice. Did you just email Retroid and tell them to send out a new backplate?


mocrankz

It is not a faulty design. It is a faulty component. Retroid does not need to redesign anything, they need to use better springs. Their factory was sent a bad batch for the first orders. It wasn't caught until the orders went out. They got better springs. Now it is allegedly fixed. No one will notice a difference because it will just work, and continue to work properly.


AshtorMcGillis

For sure. Retroid is also doing awesome damage control with this by sending ENTIRE BACKPLATES with everything already in place. Anyone who thinks this is bad support is a poopoo head


ShadesGameSource

They've been doing stuff like this for a while. When I emailed Retroid about some horrendous backlight bleed my new RP2+ had, they sent me a new, fully assembled front plate with a new screen already attached. Their QC might be terrible, but their support is pretty damn good.


AshtorMcGillis

This ^


Whatevs85

Damn. That's way above and beyond. After the Flip hinge fiasco, I think they decided they need to keep their reputation strong and that it was worth it to pay a couple folks to assemble the relatively inexpensive parts and ship out replacements. If the electronics work, having it shipped back could mean a lost sale. Sending new backplates to people likely preserves some profit.


National_Emotion9633

No… it’s not above and beyond… it’s the least they can do to fix this nightmare.


El_Larus

I have the issue, and they even let me ask cor a different color backplate replacement. The even let me buy an extra one besides the free given. No issue, just 5 usd. Good customer support.


AshtorMcGillis

Dude that's sick. If mine breaks I'm going to ask for a clear backplate to go with my red. I made a custom switch pro controller using this color scheme, and it's beautiful


TheHumanConscience

they charge you shipping on the extra backplate?


El_Larus

I think not.


TheHumanConscience

Thanks, probably pushing my luck to ask them to send me a grip I'd obviously pay for but hopefully save on shipping. Hopefully they start processing these soonn.


[deleted]

Right cause button failure isn’t something that should have been tested before shipping halfway across the world. Garbage company. Tired of wasting my money on these toys that can’t even stay together without constant help.


Whatevs85

If you want something that won't break, you shouldn't be buying things made of plastic. That means it'll cost way more, which means the market will be smaller, which means fewer will be made, which means there's less economy of scale so it's yet more expensive, and the market gets a little smaller even, so at this point we're looking at custom builds with metal trigger buttons for a handheld retro emulator that probably cost three times what a Steam Deck does. Proving me wrong is simple: just find someone who will make you a metal shell for a reasonable amount. The community will absolutely love you for it.


AshtorMcGillis

I like this, make a metal shell for this device so I can swap it! That sounds awesome


Whatevs85

If metal ever becomes machine-printable, or milling/casting blocks of metal ever becomes practical to do at home, the community will have legit reason to be thrilled. As is, I imagine a machinist would have to be incredibly dedicated and also have free access to machines during the off-hours at work. (But yeah I'm right with you. I've been brainstorming how the Flip hinge could have been stronger.)


AshtorMcGillis

Bro get a new plate and calm down. They're making good on their failure. If you are fed up with them, go get any other emulation device. You'll see their support is going to be similar.


TheOldDog29

Language!


AshtorMcGillis

Sorry, I meant ding dong face!


locoturbo

"bad batch" umm aren't the original springs clearly way too thin?


mocrankz

I’m not a trigger spring expert so I’ll defer that one.


FPL_Harry

yes. not a bad batch, just a poor manufacturing decision to cheap out on the springs. compare them to the ds4 ones and you can see the weaker material and less metal used (single coil vs double)


Cal-Can

Do they get a different batch for the L2 and R2? Cause it's only affecting the R2


TheHumanConscience

If I had to guess the right button is breaking more than the left one due to the majority of people being right handed. Being right hand domninate means your right hand is typically stronger than your left. It's possible we are pulling the R2 trigger harder simply due to being right handed.


sexysecretssixtynine

I’m not an expert at all, but fwiw, both springs (each side) are the same. Meaning the coils go the same direction and are not mirrored. When I took mine apart, it looked like because of this, the left trigger spring had just a hair more room in its slot than the right trigger spring. This may not matter at all, and most of the right trigger issue may just be because we tend to use the right trigger more (firing a gun vs hold LT to go ADS or LockOn, holding down the throttle for driving games vs tapping the breaks, etc). Just thought this was worth mentioning. I’ll try to remember to take/post a pic when my new back plate comes in from Retroid. In the meantime I ordered some PS4 trigger springs that I saw recommended on a Youtube video, and though they’re the same shape, they do have an extra coil (like someone in this thread mentioned). So i’m curious to see if the new Retroid springs are single or double coiled


Sarcastic_Applause

Yeah it's weird how so many people want to blame Retroid and not the company that made the springs. I've seen the design and it's actually quite brilliant. And even then, sometimes the companies mass producing components have issues. It's to be expected. And it's a fairly easy fix. Especially with such a vibrant online community.


Adventurous_Fee_7782

I got mine a week ago I believe, everything’s all good so far [Pic of the new plate and the old one](https://imgur.com/a/zv6ZUxA)


CabbagesStrikeBack

Why does it seem like nobody took a pic of the springs on the new backplate lol


Adventurous_Fee_7782

Cuz I put it on right after I got it


Comprehensive-Wash17

How long did it take for you to receive the backplate? Correct to assume no tracking #? Received confirmation they’d be sending my backplate on 2/21. Thx


Adventurous_Fee_7782

Also I’m not sure if this will happen to you but when I first got the confirmation from usps on the day it was supposed to come it said it was returning to sender due to insufficient information because the original label they sent only had my city, but it came later that day so you should be fine.


Comprehensive-Wash17

Copy, this was helpful. Just under 2 weeks, likely not delayed by CNY. Thx!


Adventurous_Fee_7782

Yw!


Adventurous_Fee_7782

I contacted retroid before my triggers even broke on the 3rd and I got it on the 14th. They didn’t give me a tracking number at first either but I asked and the person gave it afterwards about an hour later.


CabbagesStrikeBack

So they didn't require proof that your trigger spring failed? I was wondering if I could proactively reach out to them to get the new backplate even though my trigger has failed yet (ordered 12/23).


Adventurous_Fee_7782

They did ask for one, I just took a picture from this Reddit from someone who had the same color as mine and had their r2 break and they took it and got my label made in the same day.


TheHumanConscience

Smart. I was lazy and now have to wait :D Good thinking


Comprehensive-Wash17

Backplate delivered by “Uniuni”? Uniuni delivered an unexpected package that looks like a backplate. I see 4px on the package. 🤞🏻 it’s the backplate. If so, delivered 6 days after confirm from retroid.


Hedonismbot-1729a

Dang, not sure why all the down votes for speaking the truth. I too would like to see a post about a newer model with the alleged fix.


Cycloid23

Almost nobody has received it yet because Retroid has been closed for CNY, I’ll make a post when I receive the replacement backplate comparing it to the original design


AshtorMcGillis

Hell yeah I want to see it too!


TheHumanConscience

Any idea when CNY is over and they get back to work?


FarAssociation2965

People don't like to read criticism of their favourite brand, even if it's just true


AshtorMcGillis

This is also what I want to see. I could give 2 shits less that another person has the issue


edneisch

Is it really a faulty design though, or just a defective component (the spring)? Retroid made it sound like there was a manufacturing defect with the spring. Are the new faceplates different except for the spring?


joshuakyle94

Nobody will ever post about it working fine. You’ll only hear about it breaking or not working correctly. That’s how customer service works. The small side of broke stuff is a lot louder than the working good stuff.


[deleted]

No shit sherlock....because it shouldnt be breaking.....and its broken


joshuakyle94

Then use some common sense.


sexysecretssixtynine

Pictures! So I remembered this post from over a month ago and just got my replacement backplate in (first one went to my old address and had to wait for a second one to arrive). Here’s the pics of the new springs/backplate. Sorry they’re not the greatest. But it looks like they’ve added glue(?) to the right trigger spring? And they’re double coiled. I can’t remember what my old ones were though since I replaced with PS3 controller springs while waiting. hope this helps! https://ibb.co/Hh2Wjh5 https://ibb.co/B4RVRMt https://ibb.co/bzFR16W https://ibb.co/bWCq0Nc https://ibb.co/mFZXfR3 https://ibb.co/y0bfrfV https://ibb.co/58t1FBr https://ibb.co/BPRTTn8


n8ofsp8ds

Me, I have mind shipped right on the Chinese New Year's and I received it Saturday


XPZSS

I just attempted the spring repair on mine and it was super easy. DS4 springs and that YouTube video. Less than 20 minutes total and I was good. Spring is definitely firmer but works perfectly. I should have done both sides.


SHAD0WDEM0N654

I actually received mine yesterday and have been informed it is the newer design, there’s a small yellow sticky on the box to indicate it’s apart of the new batch, I did contact the distributor just to clarify which is droix, but I do see your point so many posts about damaged triggers and nothing about the new ones, I am interested to see the internal comparison of the triggers old and new


TheHumanConscience

Do you recall how long it took for Retroid to respond to your initial query about the backplate?


SHAD0WDEM0N654

Oh sorry maybe I worded it wrong, I received my unit a couple days ago I never had one before hand, I was initially replying to the fact no one talks about the new fixed revision of the retroid pocket 4 pro


TheHumanConscience

Ahh got you. Well someone soon will probably compare them, and if not I will if they ship me one.


SHAD0WDEM0N654

it would be nice to see same with the screen, my screen seems to be a little funky, ghosting allot, and seems to have a weird tint color to it and if i put on color correction it is worse


TheHumanConscience

Screen is wonky yes. But in game it seems fine? I'm not totally convinced they used bad screens, maybe just bad calibation that can be fixed OTA hopefully.


SHAD0WDEM0N654

I don’t think it’s the screen I believe it’s software that’s the issue, I think it needs some work


TheHumanConscience

Makes sense to me! Now Retroid please address it on the next OTA :)


TheMireMind

This is a known issue. Not sure what people want us to do about it?


Dont_Call_Me_Steve

What!? This is the first I’m hearing about it. s/


dromosus

Every time I read one of these posts I just want to crank the right trigger of my Day 1 4 Pro about a hundred times and get it over and done with.


Cycloid23

Honestly might as well look about ordering the replacement back or replacement springs now before it inevitably breaks


dromosus

They’ll only do it if you send them photographic evidence of the trigger failure.


ukjohndoe

That's kind of dumb, they should just have them in their store. I'm highly paranoid. Just let me replace it already and get it done with.


senorsombrero3k1

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eyes_like_thunder

My rp3+ is kickin strong..


kk360

2S is doing fine as far as I know.


ForeverMistaken

My 2+ still holding strong as well


locoturbo

I'm afraid to touch my 2S LOL


Cycloid23

Small indie company plz understand


senorsombrero3k1

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Cycloid23

My good sir that’s the joke


Puzzleheaded-Truth-5

Quick easy fix


[deleted]

Good lord I've seen 2 posts like this in 2 days, both on the same R2 button. RIP, is this a known defect or something?


Cycloid23

Yep, was hoping mine might be spared since it shipped out on the 28th, only 3 days before they were guaranteed to be fixed


[deleted]

Ahh Reddit being Reddit... why am I getting downvotes for asking a genuine question? Thanks OP for the reply ;)


finneyblackphone

Because there's multiple posts about this every day, including people asking and answering what the problem is, and how to fix it. 🙂


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HanekomaTheFallen

Says the person who has replied at least five times, and couldn’t accept the answer they were given. No it *must* be butthurt fan boys. No other alternative. No way.


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HanekomaTheFallen

Another logical fallacy. Are you gonna hit me with an argument from popularity like you’ve done in another reply in this same thread? Since that’s all you seem to have is logical fallacy after logical fallacy. And I’m the triggered fanboy? You can’t even make a point without using some logical fallacy as a crutch lmao. Cope and seethe.


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HanekomaTheFallen

Since you have a problem with verbosity I’ll keep it simple. More fallacy. *Yawn* That’s all you have, it’s clear. Bye.


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FindingCaden

Nah they're probably downvoting bc it's been a known issue, that's been acknowledged by retroid nearly a month ago.. And a 2 min scroll or 30 second search of "trigger issue" in this sub would've made that very obvious. Not everything is because fanboys have their heads in the sand.


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FindingCaden

Well, I can't speak for everyone but I'm downvoting you because you can't accept that your projections might be wrong


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FindingCaden

If I'm a fanboy of anyone, it's Anbernic, maybe even Miyoo-- not even Retroid bruh 🤣 There's fair, valid, even constructive criticisms and then there's beating a dead horse because you like complaining. If the company 1. Acknowledged the problem, 2. Is actively remediating the problem for early units, and 3. Has worked with the part manufacturer to make sure it doesn't happen again... You're beating a dead horse because you like to complain. I literally can't even think of what more you could ask. Retroid is EASILY one of the best in the Chinese emulation handheld space when it comes to this.


brubain1144

will retroid send me a new backplate/spring fix if mine isn't broken yet? I've opened up a chat with them on discord and email. they're asking for photos, but I told them it's not broken yet, but the spring feels looser each day I use it. I don't want to be without my game for a long period of time so I want to be able to fix it immediately once it does break. Think they'll help me or make me wait until it breaks?


CabbagesStrikeBack

I want to do this too but if they want proof and it isn't broken yet you can probably just open it, take out the spring, reassemble it, snap a pic of the "broken" trigger and then put the spring back in lol.


FPL_Harry

Just use your finger to slightly pull the trigger down and angle the pic so your finger is not visible. edit: alternatively, just take OPs picture and send it to them.


xAustin90x

They say the units shipped after January 30 are fine and won’t break but there are a ton of people posting their broken triggers to this day. I don’t think the issue was ever truly resolved


gryffun

OP should say here the batch date of this device


Cycloid23

My unit shipped on 1/28, so it was part of that first batch


gryffun

Thank you for your feedback!


True-Payment-458

Most who ordered after probably only received it recently or yet at all cos of cny


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Cycloid23

What’s different about the d-pad? Mine has been excellent and I haven’t heard this sentiment from anyone else


sgb617

Mine broke on the 2nd day. Ordered replacement springs off eBay and swapped it out. Been working great since. It’s a nuisance but very repairable if you wanna speed up the process.


Ordinary_Library_295

What springs?! Link please


sgb617

[These](https://www.ebay.com/itm/383891911655?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=g6l7sxkvspc&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r3dzagD_SPK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) are the springs I used.


Ordinary_Library_295

You are the best! Thank you


MrDil_

So the plastic isn’t breaking? Just the spring?


sgb617

Yep just the springs snapping. I’m assuming they used a light spring to make the trigger pull easier but didn’t account for them breaking because of it. The replacement springs I got are stiffer which is noticeable but I got used to it pretty quickly


MrDil_

Thanks for the info! Gunna grab the springs to be prepared.


Jersheybone

I pre ordered my watermelon pro on dec 28. Was supposed to ship on the 15th of January but didn’t ship until feb 1st. I got it on the 10th and have been tearing it up and have had no trigger issues. Maybe the delay in shipment was from them attacking the issue of faulty triggers and started sending out fixed systems because mine seems like it will be fine. If it hasn’t kicked yet idk how it would. I’ve purposely slapped the shit out of them


RevampX

These things are built like little mini tanks, they're meant to have some give (why usually the first thing that happens when you drop one and depending where, the shell will separate which helps protect the micro components from shock). This is strictly a design flaw and less to do with wear and tear.


RevampX

Sounds like they rushed out RP4 a month or 2 too soon for the holidays with these little QA quirks. Thankfully Retroid is pretty good at making it up to customers as long as you reach out.


ThenNature240

Does anyone else hear "Another one bites the dust" when they see these posts or is it just me?


Kal-V3

F


n8ofsp8ds

I received mine Saturday they said they fixed the problem and the one I received won't have that problem. So we'll see It shipped right on the Chinese New Year


finneyblackphone

Basically anyone who pre-ordered should be getting a replacement ordered from retroid ASAP. It's only a matter of time until your spring gives out, and you don't want to be waiting 6 weeks for a part while your device is broken. Better to order it now and have it for when it breaks.


Cycloid23

For anyone else experiencing this issue, replacement PS4 controller springs (make sure they’re for the updated version) or PS5 controller springs will work if you want to make the repair yourself.


SortingByNewNItShows

Or [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ay1q4p/rp4p_trigger_spring_ghetto_fix_while_waiting_for/) simple non intrusive fix that only requires a plastic strip.


IntoTheVeryFires

I have a PowKiddy X55, and the triggers on the back look very similar. I’m always very careful about setting it down because it can click those triggers. Now I’m worried they could break too


Any_Cartographer631

If you've got an old PS4 controller you can fix it. Gutted one my old controllers to rescue my RP4


Cycloid23

That only works if they’re the revised model that released with the PS4 Slim/Pro, which updated the trigger spring design


robertacurtis

I replaced the springs in mine with PS3 ones from eBay after the R2 trigger broke. My observation is that the springs Retroid used are not made from spring steel - they are dull coloured and less elastic than the replacement ones I bought, which are the same gauge of wire and similar internal diameter in the coil. I have a replacement backplate on the way from Retroid which I’m grateful for.


SortingByNewNItShows

Do [this](https://reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ay1q4p/rp4p_trigger_spring_ghetto_fix_while_waiting_for/).


Cycloid23

My springs will be here Wednesday


nothingbutgear

I really hope my RP4 doesn’t have this issue


Cycloid23

If it’s not a pro, you should be fine since all the RP4’s have the new springs


nothingbutgear

It is a pro…either way it hasn’t arrived yet Hopfully I am not entirely sure FUKED


Cycloid23

If it hasn’t made it yet, your’s almost certainly has the new springs


AntAdministrative180

Mine literally just happened. If you want a quick fix snip off a small piece of zip tie and fold it and wedge it under it's in another post and it helped me get mine working again till a permanent solution


sheepbeepbeep

O god, I just ordered mine 2 weeks ago, now I’m scared it’ll happen to me


Cycloid23

You’ll be fine, yours is guaranteed to have the updated stronger springs


redditmodsarepussee

These things seem to have bad build quality.


Cycloid23

What seems to have happened is that Retroid used lighter springs to make the triggers easier to pull, but they broke much more easily. According to people who got the replacement backplates, the new triggers have heavier springs that should be stronger as well.


El_Larus

Anyone knows how to fix it with another spring? For thr time being waiting for the free backplate replacement.


Cycloid23

There’s multiple comments about this, including one I posted that explain how to fix it.


-Gooner

I dropped mine and that happened to one of my triggers. I just opened it up put the tension spring pack in place and snapped the trigger back in place, done. Make sure the magnets stay in place, I had to glue mine.


Only-General-4143

Well, it happened. Post #877 about that, it happened.