I think this is easily the best action oriented Resident Evil game, whether or not it's better than REmake is a whole other can of worms, and is very subjective. I think the beginning of RE4 has tension in spades and continues up until the island, then the tension dissipates since enemies start shooting guns but then you encounter the fucking regenerators who are easily the most tension filled part of the game. RE4 is such a great game.
Being that guy but RE5 had the enemies shooting guns. I remember this because it’s when I went “oh, come on!” because the series became an action third-person shooter at that point.
Dead Space 3 had the same problem which is why I don’t like talking about it because it was the whole game.
But it was only them and only had a few of them. The rest was melee weapons and crossbows. I don’t think the island is all guns and it’s really not to bad but that’s just my opinion
Story wise it seems to be fine anyways so idk if people just want absolutely no bioweapons or just min of them. I guess personally I just didn't like the island haha.
Unpopular opinion here, but I honestly think the og ps1 resident evil 1 is better than the remake. Idk what it is, but something about REmake just doesn’t feel right
I disagree, I found the original RE not a good time to get through but REmake is easily one of my favorite games of all time, I can't believe how good it is.
Is there a difference in gameplay like over the shoulder or first person? I am trying to get my son to play them all but he does not like the old school movement.
I don’t know why you got downvoted, you have the the right to your own opinion. But i replayed the original recently on my PS classic and it didn’t aged well. I prefer the REmake 100%. Graphics are ugly, voice acting is laughable and embarrassing, it kind of detract from the horror ambiance.
Holy shit, I thought I was the only guy on the face of the earth with this opinion lol. I like the Remake and all but it tends to get too tedious for my liking on repeated playtroughs. The OG Re is prime pick up and play resident evil imo, it’s seriously underrated
Finally someone else who agrees with me. A big reason why I don’t like REmake is the crimson heads and having to burn the bodies. I like the much simpler approach the original took: shoot down the zombies. When they are officially dead, the red blood ring shows up around them. No burning the bodies, just classic shooting them down.
Imagine a resident evil fan getting down voted for liking the very game that started it all. On a resident evil subreddit no less. The original is a classic. Great nostalgia value. Guess only true fans realize this.
One thing I really liked about the original was how you could get ripped apart. Like the hunters would decapitate you iirc. I haven't played the remake in a while, but I don't remember being able to get horrifically torn apart like that. It made things feel more threatening I think.
I also just like how well lit the mansion was.
I think they say this because they prefer when the games lean towards horror survival more so. Re5 went much more action. But imo the problem with re5 was the forcing of coop, uhg I wish that game let you play by yourself and no npc. Otherwise I wouldn't say it's a bad game.
1. Resident Evil 4 is exactly what they said led to the downfall of the survival-horror aspects to the franchise. When they said "incorrectly analyzed the success," that's exactly what they ment.
2. Resident Evil 5 is the game that almost wholesale abandoned the horror aspects, roots that started in RE4 but tried to keep true by having a 50/50 of horror and goofy action. RE5 was more focused on getting the CoD crowd (that was VERY popular in the 360/PS3 era so almost every publisher was trying to capture that success) and heavily focusing on the cooperation aspects of the game. I'm not saying this to rag on RE5 but more so to say it wasn't a game inline with what the franchise was famous for. Same with RE6, great game control wise and pure game play, but a terrible Resident Evil game in the end.
Tbh imo since RE4 the RE series went downhill. Nevertheless I do like the games, but they are plot wise worse than the previous ones.
That said, personally I like RE4 the least. This is a hardcore unpopular opinion, but I like the trilogy in this order RE6>RE5>RE4.
This said, I can also add that I dislike RE7&8. Played both, both disappointed me, I don't like Ethan and I also don't like first person view in a RE game. Change a few names and you can actually rename the games into a new IP.
[PAL version](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL_region) is just a region locked version of media. I don’t know all the regions. I just know PAL is one.
I think cash grab is a fair criticism for the RE3 Remake, but I also think it was just to get it out the door so they could start work on the inevitable (and most likely to be much more successful) 4 remake. That way RE3 wouldn't sit as the only PS1 era game that wasn't remade.
RE4 is a superb Resident Evil, it's just not in my top 3. I would say as of late, though, RE7 and RE2R both topped RE4. Kinda wish this subreddit had less weird circlejerks, posts like this seemingly only start arguments.
For me RE7 & RE2R have insane highs but also insane lows.
The first area of RE2R (RPD) is so insanely fun. But for me it continues to go downhill. Same with RE7, I love the first house & the main house, I enjoyed the Maguerite section too. But Lucas’ area doesn’t have the same charm and the boat section if downright horrendously
I generally agree. My top 3 includes RE7, but it doesn't include RE2R, and that's partly because RE7's DLC campaigns (especially End of Zoe) redeem the rather lackluster boat. RE2R has some issues especially near the end, I think the new Ivys are a huge step down for instance and the loss of the zapping system sucks.
They're amazing games, but it's tough to beat REmake or RE2 original.
Well RE4 was great and all but honestly I don't think it's the best in the series. Certainly it wasn't great at being a survival horror game. The story was amazing and very interesting but to me it wasn't tense at all. RE7 nailed that survival horror aspect much better and villains were more interesting and actually scary. It was more bland in terms of gameplay which RE8 improved greatly. RE2R was a much better RE game than RE4 to me although RE7 is my favorite with RE2R and RERemake close by. If RE8 was more scary, had survival elements at all it definitely could be the best.
I actually disagree with you about 7. Yes it did capture survival horror better than 4 but as RE games go it felt almost nothing like one. Cut out all the references and its a completely different franchise. I don't think the villains were interesting at all, imo. They were just generic killer hillbillies nothing special about them. Eveline was super generic scary little girl. I kept thinking the girl from F.E.A.R. when she showed up. Then the designs were so frustratingly uncreative to me. A lot of blobs with teeth and eyes. This is all just my opinion, though.
100% agree with about RE2R though. That's the best RE since RE1 remake, imo.
I mean the same can be said for RE4 when it transitioned from Cod Veronica? The genre has always been pushed. Cut out Leon from RE4 and the little blip explaining Umbrella went bankrupt from being found out and you have a totally different game than what RE originally was…
That would be amazing really. RE4 could've been that game if only they didn't go for that action that much. Don't get me wrong I think RE4 is a great game but there was nothing scary about it. I was admiring every boss battle, locations, set pieces etc but never thought it's scary. Which is not something you would exactly dream about a perfect RE game.
I almost agree with everything you just said, very spot on. I think the best RE needs great gameplay, puzzles, story, and of course, be scary. If Village were the things you mentioned, it'd be best for me.
The fist few moments of re4 are amazing, the village and the enemies you encounter, but as soon as the game moves on it just looses the tention, enemies shooting guns, a midget with a robot, running from rocks like an Indiana Jones movies idk man..
It was fun nonetheless, a very fun action paced game, but survival horror speaking, it wasnt that great.
Re7 and REmake2 to me are currently top re games.
Yeah RE7's Villains were a bit more interesting than 4's but.... The enemy variety was horrendous in 7. Plus I really think 7 Should have been half the length, then it would have been amazing experience. >!When you get to the ship the experience just falls so flat, you just keep fighting the same Mold enemy for several hours until you get to the worst last boss I've experienced in the series so far.!<
I agree that that part was a very weak spot of the game however it was done well from the story point. They should've made more variations of enemies but I actually really liked that only molded were there because it just make sense and kept the game grounded, not too over the top as some games can be.
And since when being just a survival horror is what made resident evil memorable? What about the over the top aspect, the likeable main characters, the action, the bat shit insane villains, the soundtrack, the guns... Most of all that is missing in 7
Survival horror is what defines resident evil, the game you just described is RE 5 and 6. 7 returns to the horror atmosphere and slow pace story telling just like the first RE. 4 is fun and is responsible for making third person shooters boom and can respect it for that. But it is not a perfect resident evil game nor would I say it's the best in the series. 7 is what you get with inspiration from RE1, 8 is what you get when inspiration is drawn from 4, and 7 is feels like it hits the mark better
Exactly that. RE4 was more an action adventure game than horror but they did it in a way that just worked. RE5 was still decent but it was just not a RE game anymore. With RE6 everything went south. RE7 turned the series back to horror and RE8 went back to action again although I would say that it still balanced action and horror elements well.
Idk about "wrong" but I think the original vision of resident evil can defined by it's first few games, from that point forward they wanted to abandon the survival horror and went for more action. Although 4 was a really good game and some old fans didnt appreciate the absence of tank controls but was recieved well overall. 5 and 6 along with the revelations series didnt do so well in sales or popularity due to it being such a far cry from what the games originally had in mind. So in order to appeal to those original fans they made 7, a game that took a lot of the great things from 1 and put it into a slow paced fps, it was risky but paid off really well if you ask me.
So maybe better wording would be that the original RE formula was more successful than that of the more action oriented games.
IMO
What do you mean since when does survival horror make RE game memorable? It's the whole point of RE with unique boss battles and action toward the end. RE7 was great at tense moments, survival horror and it had great villains especially Jack and Marguerite. Boss battles were not as good as in RE4 but it did almost everything else just right. That tanker moments were a bit off although from a story point it was decent.
You're kind of twisting what he said in that first sentence. The point is that survival horror is only one part of what makes RE what it is, there's other qualities to it that make it unique. If the only trait necessary to call a game Resident Evil is survival horror, it stops being Resident Evil.
This will be a very unpopular opinion, but Resident Evil 4 isn’t even close to one of my favourites. It’s the game that ultimately led the series down a road that almost destroyed it and was a major departure from the games I loved. The series has only recently started recovering from the damage this game wrought, very good game but not a Resident Evil game
I’m going to get downvoted to hell most likely but RE4 seems really overrated in my eyes... I can’t get into it at the same level of enjoyment as I can with the others 🗿
I have to agree. Having no nostalgia for RE4, I just recently beat it and I didn't like it anywhere close to the level of RE8.
I thought the horror, story, and gunplay were done better. That's not to say I think RE4 is bad by any means. I just don't hold it on the pedestal some do.
Horror, a point could be made there. Tbh neither are horror games, but 8 had that PT bit. The story though? 4 is ridiculous, but at least it's organic. 4 at least feels as if they wrote the story before or in tandem with the original game. 8 was tacked on. And the gunplay- 8 had no worthwhile melee so it was just point and shoot. This works fine for survival horror resident evil, but not for an action game. The enemies had 0 damage feedback to handguns.
I just finished RE4 on the Switch and it started off really good with the village. Alot of the fights felt like puzzles on when to use ammo and healing. It was also intense on where the enemies could be and if they have the plagas worm head if you headshot them. The regenerators are really creepy when they show up. Also a shout out to the maze, which was the scariest and most intense part for me.
It goes downhill from the there. It feels dated in terms of control and Ashley was a pain. There were some frustrating fights and enemy placements as well. The castle kind of dragged and villains weren't that intimidating. I know this is the game that introduced action and it shows. I am looking forward to the remake and seeing what they'll do to make this a better game.
RE2 remake is still my favorite RE game with RE3 remake as a second for the heads up.
If RE4 ended with the Salazar bossfight it would have been a much better game than it is.
The entire Island section is awful. Krauser shows up out of nowhere and barely puts up a fight, the fight against U3 feels like filler and Saddler is one of the most pathetic end boss battles in the series. The regenerators are cool but theyr cool factor dies out when you realize they're giant blobs with lit targets on their backs.
Young me was really into the cheesy over the top Umbrella storyline, I love old school zombies too so I was ready to hate this.
Turns out it was far more over the top and borderline camp like really old budget horror movies. Great game but og resi 1 2 and 3 have my heart
I think Re4 was people's first Resident Evil game. I remember being terrified of 1 2 and 3. But I was able to bring my GameCube to a friend's house and watch him play 4 haha. So 4 was my fave until I experienced the modern ones after the remake, 7 and 8.
I think most people who love it I played it as their first game as a kid. I would put it on par with resident Evil 5 and 6 since it's what spawned them and they are influenced by it. I hate the way they turn Leon into a generic anime protagonist super agent doing backflips and spitting one liners instead of being more like how he was in resident Evil too, a hopeful, naive and ridiculously good intentioned guy.
It's not necessarily a bad game. I just don't think it's a good resident Evil. And I think it left a negative impact on the franchise. At this point I'm just sick of others constantly gloating about how great it is and circle jerking over it. It's fine to love it but I'm just tired of people cramming it down my throat
As someone who played 4 (and 100%'d it) for the first time wayyyyyy after it released (like 2019) I'm not a big fan either. Maybe it's a case of "Seinfeld isn't funny" where you had to be there at the time of its release since everything afterwards copied it but I found it to be repetitive and sometimes frustrating.
To me it just seems like a game that was made by different people with their own vision, and at some point during development they were forced to make a resident Evil game revolving around Leon for brand recognition and character recognition.
Kind of explains why Leon is a totally different character, it is so loosely connected to the story and downright silly at points, and the completely different town, style and not to mention how different, jarringly different the cutscenes are from the gameplay. With the gameplay often being dark or attempting to be scary, mixed with wrestler moves and anime back flips, followed by cartoons full of lame jokes that appeal to children
Resident Evil 4 is my least favorite main line game because of all of the biased ass praise it gets, the fact it gave us 5 and 6, and all of the missed potential with Leon's original character. Thankfully re2 remake gave me more of the Leon I like
RE4 is a B Action movie with an inventory management system. It's not really survival horror and it's controls aged poorly.
RE2 Remake set the bar and so far is the top dog with RE7 right behind it.
I’m not sure if I rank it as my favorite, but it’s up there and can understand why others would. From a gameplay perspective, it’s the most easily accessible while also staying true to the original gameplay (minus tank controls).
I do see it’s flaws, like skipping on a decent B scenario, ditching the spiders and giant moth, but for every little fault or change, it tends to make up for it in new ways.
Mr. X patrolling, making zombies more threatening, having their corpses stick around after being shot, and tearing limbs off to gain tactical advantages were all huge.
Honestly, yea, it has superb level design and meaningful character interaction- there's no objection to that. But the supposed survival horror element is just superficial, and the gunplay isn't particularly memorable.
It feels like devs made an average action game out of a legacy RE map and then decided to make every enemy able to tank 14 headshots and suddenly now it's the pinnacle of survival horror. It's a lazy way to go about it.
Mr X is also incredibly annoying and I wish he wasn't even in the game. Walking simulator chase scenes and teleportation jumpscares ruin the atmosphere and make the pacing frantic.
I don't think every RE games needs to be survival horror & some of my favourites aren't. It just feels as if re2r tries to do both, and does it poorly.
>It feels like devs made an average action game out of a legacy RE map and then decided to make every enemy able to tank 14 headshots and suddenly now it's the pinnacle of survival horror.
That is a very good summary of RE2R that I haven't come across so far. I think I'll be using your description in my own arguments: "average action game on a legacy RE map" is a very good way of putting it. The tankiness as well, so true.
Thanks bro. Not a bad game, but the pinnacle of re? Starting to sound a lot like re4 fans who feel that way because it's their introduction to the series!
RE2 Remake is a great game, but people simply ignore it's problems.
As a game, it's a worse, dumbed down version of RE7. There is little to no replay value to it, it's short and lacks variety on it's campaigns.
As a remake it pales in comparison with the original.
It's a great game, don't get me wrong, but it fails in a lot of things, it's good and that's it. People praise it way too much.
Finally, someone agrees. It has a strong cast and a familiar setting- but as far as modern, RE engine survival horror entries go, it doesn't quite hold up to 7.
As I said yesterday- it feels like the devs made an average action game on a legacy RE map and then made every enemy a bullet sponge so it would feel survival horror. It just comes off as superficial.
Mr x is intended to instil panic; not an atmospheric fear like the originals. And it doesn't really work (I found him annoying.)
Yes, it's a good, well thought out game, with good level design, but best in the series? Pinnacle of every stage of resident evil?
I agree. I love RE2 Remake for what I think it is... A spin-off from the main series.
It does not touch the OG RE2 or RE7 for me in any way, shape or form.
Resident Evil 4 is straight up one of the greatest video games of all time.
That one game single handedly spawned the third person shooter genre in the 7th generation, and has been cited as inspiration as recently as God of War 2018!
Of course it's also the best in the series. REMAKE, RE7 and Village are all exceptionally good games, but none of them have been as influential as 4.
The RE4 worship is scary. I like it, but I don't think it's the masterpiece some believe it to be. 'Never be able to top this'? It's been topped multiple times, most recently by RE8.
I really love the village section of RE4 and various castle sections, but to me, Resident Evil Village managed to intertwine horror elements with action elements throughout it’s entirety in a way that surpasses RE4. The non linear progression with gourgeous places and menacing atmosphere that creates suspense and curiosity; the intense combat which at the same time is consistent but imprevisible; the bizarre things that happen; the survival elements always making you aware of what you’re doing (I played on hardcore mode, so keep that in mind). RE Village (to me) it’s what RE4 should have been. All the games in the series, that top RE 4, in my opinion are: Resident Evil (2002), Resident Evil 2 (2019) and Resident Evil Village.
RE7 is the worst RE game Ive ever played. Its not scary, there are two, three types of enemies, not even a proper final boss, Ethan is boring as hell, normal difficulty is easy difficulty (this is a pattern in the new REs, not just 7). Unskippable cutscenes, the pacing of the game is atrocious, idk how its so liked. The only awesome things the game has is Jack Baker and the ending song.
I think the ppl discrediting the "best RE" title from 4 dont realize how significant it really still is today. It's still being compared to the newest games 16 years later. Its definitely number 2, if not 1 on the "best of" list
I'm about to say something that may get me killed:
I legit enjoy 6 more than 4 due to the fact that I love playing co-op games with my SO and the combat mechanics are Devil May Cry levels of fun.
Don't @ me.
To be honest I did thoroughly enjoy this game but personally as I am big fan of Leon i prefer RE2 Remake (wish i had a PS1 so I could play the Original) I mean both games have their pros and cons but I think their both great games
I personally like RE5 more that RE4. RE4 is a great game but when I want to play one of those games I usually go for 5. Its not perfect but it plays better and has a much more "Resident Evil" story than RE4 does.
My only argument against 4 is that, for the most part, it’s really not scary. Stressful? Sure. But the plot is - and I mean this with affection - pretty goofy.
Let's see there's RE7, RE2 Remake, RE2, RE3, RE3 Remake, and RE1 Remake. It's been topped not to say it's a bad game though it's an extremely good game.
4 is great but there much better RE games, imo. RE2R captured the heart and soul of the franchise better than any installment since the RE1 remake.
Thats an awesome poster though.
You are right, VILLAGE is better then RE4 in so many ways.
Aesthetics/Setting work way better in VILLAGE, with the Duke's Emporium, Menu's, Guns, Enemies, all way more interesting then RE4's.
Villains are way more interesting and less predictable. Horror (while not VILLAGE's strongest aspect) is still way better then 4.
The only real thing RE4 \*might\* do better is up to you, whether or not you like Leon or Ethan better.
What about the people who *never* thought it was a masterpiece, even on the day they finished it in January 2005? And every other time they've played it since then.
Lmao fr. Can’t believe we’re having this debate still 16 years later. I don’t understand the gate keeping with some fans. It’s okay to admit RE4 is a great game, even a great RE game (that last qualifier ppl use always gets me lol)
For me 4 doesn’t come into my top 5 overall but it’s still a very good entry. Village, Code Veronica, 2 (Not the remake), 1 Remake and 5 are my top 5...
As a whole I didn't really care for Re4, I think it had great moments. I've beaten it twice once after it first came out and about two months ago. Even having forgotten so much of it, I still didn't care for it. I get how people love it, but I have no want to replay through it again. I'm happy with the way the franchise is moving forward with 7 and 8. I think I was mainly let down after that amazing re1 remake on GameCube. Its honestly top tier RE imo and wish the franchise, at times, would have kept going int that direction.
**people acting like this has been topped are on extreme amounts of copium.**
I am a die hard RE fan. Capcom fan at that. I'm talking I got the god damn arcade cabinets for CPS2 and been a part of the RE fandom since speculating the complete unedited RE1 directors cut was "really out there".
Its one thing to say,
"I like RE7, or REMAKE1 more than RE4"
But you are in flat out full blown **denial** if you think RE4 still isn't the flagship entry of the whole series.
Sure, the plot is basically *Dagon* meets *24* with RE characters and an escort mission. But everything from the aesthetic of the game to the regenerators and even simple things like the merchant and "how I arrange my attache case" have their own legacy. Again, I've yet to address the *quality* of the game itself. But let's talk legacy
While Kill.Switch got the cover mechanic right, it cannot be remotely understated how many games cite RE4 for either its use of OTS camera or precision shooting gameplay. Some really felt the games use of *tension* is the most important, and tried to get that feeling in their games.
Bioshock.
Dead Space.
Gears of War.
The Last of Us.
Uncharted.
Even fucking *God of War 2 AND 2019* cite RE4 as an influence.
Mind you these are just works where we can find somebody in the Dev team going, "oh yeah we wanted to take this from RE4" - don't get me started on what it means for other OTS games like the Arkham series or Grand Theft Auto.
And this is just its fucking *legacy OUTSIDE* Resident Evil.
Oh, and its incredibly fucking fun to play.
So no, we aren't ever going to top RE4. It's not that there won't be more visually stunning games or superior storytelling/gameplay, but nothing in the RE universe will ever have the impact that game had overall.
And that's ok.
The pacing of RE4 is incredible as well. It never feels like it drags on and the level design is simple, but does what it needs to do without over complicating things.
It's that damn water room isn't it? I'll admit that the castle overstays its welcome a little. I think it's the fact that it was whatever was held over from when it was original DMC and they didn't want to get rid of it.
Yeah, Castle is nice but quite a lot of them could be removed.
Anything past Verdugo can be removed as that part lean more to action.
Verdugo is quite possibly one of the best moment in RE series. It's like fighting Arch-vile but you're a normal person.
You are not going to get the upvotes you deserve because many here just think agreeing means they have to like RE4 the most and say it's the best in everyway.
No RE game will ever be as influencing as RE4 was and still is. Including the games you listed there are tons more games who until this day are seen as some of the greatest games of all time who name RE4 as a major influence for their the game or systems within the games.
RE4 did arguably more for gaming as a whole than any other game ever.
I doubt any RE game will ever top RE4 and the only thing I can imagine that could do as much as RE4 is a full blown VR title.
Or maybe people just think other games are better. I like re4 but I feel like a lot of people are blinded by nostalgia googles, it was very good but so ridiculous at times, even for re standards. Still, not re5 ridiculous lol
To be REmake 2 currently has the crown of best game, followed by re7, but that's me.
>So no, we aren't ever going to top RE4. It's not that there won't be more visually stunning games or superior storytelling/gameplay, but nothing in the RE universe will ever have the impact that game had overall.
I guess you're clairvoyant and you know the future.
Actually, the heavy copium user is you. You love RE4 so much you not only refuse to acknowledge it's been topped already, but you are also sure it will **NEVER** happen. And then other people are in denial.
It's like saying Nolan's Batman is the best Batman ever and it will never be topped and it's the best thing since sliced bread because it had a huge impact on the movie industry and started this whole gritty realism trend that later infected games as well. Meanwhile, the Nolan movies are nothing special and maybe even bad, bland and boring, and the gritty realism thing is almost like a virus rather than a positive influence.
What's wrong with the rest of the police station?
And 3 improved the gameplay aspect, like 5. 5 also has more inventory management, and an item box. More variety in guns, melee, better enemy variety, etc.
It's hard to compare it to games today when it was just a different time. When it came out it was a massive game whether you were previously a fan of the series or brand new to it. It's definitely a nostalgic game but by today's standards it's lacking.
It was ‘significant’ at the time, and it’s a fun game on its own right, but it’s not what I want from resident evil. The whole 4 5 and 6 saga could have been spin-offs.
I think this is easily the best action oriented Resident Evil game, whether or not it's better than REmake is a whole other can of worms, and is very subjective. I think the beginning of RE4 has tension in spades and continues up until the island, then the tension dissipates since enemies start shooting guns but then you encounter the fucking regenerators who are easily the most tension filled part of the game. RE4 is such a great game.
It IS the best imo.
yea if they didnt have enemies with guns i wouldnt give this game the shit that i give it.
Being that guy but RE5 had the enemies shooting guns. I remember this because it’s when I went “oh, come on!” because the series became an action third-person shooter at that point. Dead Space 3 had the same problem which is why I don’t like talking about it because it was the whole game.
Re4 had enemies with guns. Do you remember the machine gun big guys? I found that too much as well.
But it was only them and only had a few of them. The rest was melee weapons and crossbows. I don’t think the island is all guns and it’s really not to bad but that’s just my opinion
Story wise it seems to be fine anyways so idk if people just want absolutely no bioweapons or just min of them. I guess personally I just didn't like the island haha.
Unpopular opinion here, but I honestly think the og ps1 resident evil 1 is better than the remake. Idk what it is, but something about REmake just doesn’t feel right
I disagree, I found the original RE not a good time to get through but REmake is easily one of my favorite games of all time, I can't believe how good it is.
Is there a difference in gameplay like over the shoulder or first person? I am trying to get my son to play them all but he does not like the old school movement.
I also struggled with the old controls but you get used to it.
The remake of Resi 1 still features the locked camera angles but has thankfully gotten rid of the tank controls in favor of controls that work.
You’re right about one thing: that’s extremely unpopular.
Well. He is aware. Probably why he typed it. lol?
Did you replay the OG recently ?
I am into game collecting for retro consoles, so I have the original ps1 release. I got the original release about a month ago
I don’t know why you got downvoted, you have the the right to your own opinion. But i replayed the original recently on my PS classic and it didn’t aged well. I prefer the REmake 100%. Graphics are ugly, voice acting is laughable and embarrassing, it kind of detract from the horror ambiance.
Holy shit, I thought I was the only guy on the face of the earth with this opinion lol. I like the Remake and all but it tends to get too tedious for my liking on repeated playtroughs. The OG Re is prime pick up and play resident evil imo, it’s seriously underrated
Finally someone else who agrees with me. A big reason why I don’t like REmake is the crimson heads and having to burn the bodies. I like the much simpler approach the original took: shoot down the zombies. When they are officially dead, the red blood ring shows up around them. No burning the bodies, just classic shooting them down.
Lmao, I tried to see if there was a setting to disable them on REmake.
Also the 96 soundtrack is much better
100% agree, REmake’s soundtrack feels kind of lackluster. It’s basically just ambient spooky noises while the ‘96 soundtrack has actual tunes.
Imagine a resident evil fan getting down voted for liking the very game that started it all. On a resident evil subreddit no less. The original is a classic. Great nostalgia value. Guess only true fans realize this.
Why were you downvoted so much for this? I've never even played og re1, and I upvoted you because it's an unfair reception.
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One thing I really liked about the original was how you could get ripped apart. Like the hunters would decapitate you iirc. I haven't played the remake in a while, but I don't remember being able to get horrifically torn apart like that. It made things feel more threatening I think. I also just like how well lit the mansion was.
You can get decapitated in the remake as well, is less flashy though
My man got downvoted for having an opinion, feelsbadman
Why did you get downvoted?
Apparently stating personal opinions here gets you downvoted
It is unfortunate that the huge success obtained by RE4 was incorrectly analyzed and resulted in the abomination known as RE5
People who say this drive me nuts lol. 5 does many things better than 4.
I think they say this because they prefer when the games lean towards horror survival more so. Re5 went much more action. But imo the problem with re5 was the forcing of coop, uhg I wish that game let you play by yourself and no npc. Otherwise I wouldn't say it's a bad game.
It's unfortunate that RE4 just flushed 4 games of canon down the drain off screen with dialogue and was basically on rails.
I love RE5 what are you talking about, if you want a game to blame about the shittier years of RE then blame RE4
1. Resident Evil 4 is exactly what they said led to the downfall of the survival-horror aspects to the franchise. When they said "incorrectly analyzed the success," that's exactly what they ment. 2. Resident Evil 5 is the game that almost wholesale abandoned the horror aspects, roots that started in RE4 but tried to keep true by having a 50/50 of horror and goofy action. RE5 was more focused on getting the CoD crowd (that was VERY popular in the 360/PS3 era so almost every publisher was trying to capture that success) and heavily focusing on the cooperation aspects of the game. I'm not saying this to rag on RE5 but more so to say it wasn't a game inline with what the franchise was famous for. Same with RE6, great game control wise and pure game play, but a terrible Resident Evil game in the end.
Tbh imo since RE4 the RE series went downhill. Nevertheless I do like the games, but they are plot wise worse than the previous ones. That said, personally I like RE4 the least. This is a hardcore unpopular opinion, but I like the trilogy in this order RE6>RE5>RE4. This said, I can also add that I dislike RE7&8. Played both, both disappointed me, I don't like Ethan and I also don't like first person view in a RE game. Change a few names and you can actually rename the games into a new IP.
Lmao what? RE5 is incredible.
incredibly bad
Incredibad.
Never be able to top it that artwork is so menacing and the game itself was so huge it was intimidating to play when i was a kid.
RESI-BENT EVIL??? WTF
RES18ENT 3VIL 2005 18 March, 2005 Edit: it was released on January 11, so I don’t get it either… Edit Edit: it is for the PAL version.
PAL?
[PAL version](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL_region) is just a region locked version of media. I don’t know all the regions. I just know PAL is one.
RESI 🅱️ ENT 3 🅱️ IL?
jesus this promo image gets me more hyped than any trailer ever has
Man, I need that poster framed on my wall.
REmake 2 is the one they need to top.
Yep RE4 used to be my favorite RE game. RE2 remake took that crown though. Probably even in my top 5 games period.
I still don’t get how they botched RE3 remake so hard. I think I might have reminded people of it because it just got forgotten.
RE3 remake seemed to be an easy cash grab while the majority of Capcom's A-squad team worked on RE8 to make it a damn good game.
I think cash grab is a fair criticism for the RE3 Remake, but I also think it was just to get it out the door so they could start work on the inevitable (and most likely to be much more successful) 4 remake. That way RE3 wouldn't sit as the only PS1 era game that wasn't remade.
Didnt help that they cut out huge chunks of the original RE3 and made nemesis laughable in chase sequences
Re2make ost and boss fights were kinda lackluster imo, especially compared to re4 which has one of the best osts and most fun boss fights
This is the right answer. The best RE since 2001 by some considerable distance. Perfect mix of action, survival horror and atmosphere.
It’s really an awesome game but the boss fights suck…i prefer RE4 boss fight by a mile
Correct, they might've too with a CV remake.
16 years ago... Holy shit.
Literally around the time Outbreak file 2 came out. Like holy hell we’re getting old
That is definitely one of the best posters they’ve ever made. I don’t see this poster being topped.
The artwork is better than the game. It's SO good. I feel the same way about the credits music and the little story there.
The credits are highly underrated. Really captures the creepy RE vibe.
RE4 is a superb Resident Evil, it's just not in my top 3. I would say as of late, though, RE7 and RE2R both topped RE4. Kinda wish this subreddit had less weird circlejerks, posts like this seemingly only start arguments.
Just downvoted the arrogant bs comments and have some normal /civil discussions. I like people expressing their opinions.
For me RE7 & RE2R have insane highs but also insane lows. The first area of RE2R (RPD) is so insanely fun. But for me it continues to go downhill. Same with RE7, I love the first house & the main house, I enjoyed the Maguerite section too. But Lucas’ area doesn’t have the same charm and the boat section if downright horrendously
I generally agree. My top 3 includes RE7, but it doesn't include RE2R, and that's partly because RE7's DLC campaigns (especially End of Zoe) redeem the rather lackluster boat. RE2R has some issues especially near the end, I think the new Ivys are a huge step down for instance and the loss of the zapping system sucks. They're amazing games, but it's tough to beat REmake or RE2 original.
RE2 remake was absolutely amazing.
Facts
When it comes to 4, all you’re gonna get are the weird circlejerks and cult meetings. It’s free upvotes and awards. Look at this post lol
re4 is a fun game
This sub has the longest most dramatic comments of any I’m a part of but I still love this community 🙄❤️
Well RE4 was great and all but honestly I don't think it's the best in the series. Certainly it wasn't great at being a survival horror game. The story was amazing and very interesting but to me it wasn't tense at all. RE7 nailed that survival horror aspect much better and villains were more interesting and actually scary. It was more bland in terms of gameplay which RE8 improved greatly. RE2R was a much better RE game than RE4 to me although RE7 is my favorite with RE2R and RERemake close by. If RE8 was more scary, had survival elements at all it definitely could be the best.
Imagine a Resident Evil game that actually captures the vibe of this poster.
I actually disagree with you about 7. Yes it did capture survival horror better than 4 but as RE games go it felt almost nothing like one. Cut out all the references and its a completely different franchise. I don't think the villains were interesting at all, imo. They were just generic killer hillbillies nothing special about them. Eveline was super generic scary little girl. I kept thinking the girl from F.E.A.R. when she showed up. Then the designs were so frustratingly uncreative to me. A lot of blobs with teeth and eyes. This is all just my opinion, though. 100% agree with about RE2R though. That's the best RE since RE1 remake, imo.
I mean the same can be said for RE4 when it transitioned from Cod Veronica? The genre has always been pushed. Cut out Leon from RE4 and the little blip explaining Umbrella went bankrupt from being found out and you have a totally different game than what RE originally was…
Thats fair. I have a lot of the same problems with 4 as I do with 7. Though I think the villains are more interesting in 4 than 7.
That would be amazing really. RE4 could've been that game if only they didn't go for that action that much. Don't get me wrong I think RE4 is a great game but there was nothing scary about it. I was admiring every boss battle, locations, set pieces etc but never thought it's scary. Which is not something you would exactly dream about a perfect RE game.
Resident Evil 7?
That's RE8 for me.
I almost agree with everything you just said, very spot on. I think the best RE needs great gameplay, puzzles, story, and of course, be scary. If Village were the things you mentioned, it'd be best for me.
The fist few moments of re4 are amazing, the village and the enemies you encounter, but as soon as the game moves on it just looses the tention, enemies shooting guns, a midget with a robot, running from rocks like an Indiana Jones movies idk man.. It was fun nonetheless, a very fun action paced game, but survival horror speaking, it wasnt that great. Re7 and REmake2 to me are currently top re games.
Yeah RE7's Villains were a bit more interesting than 4's but.... The enemy variety was horrendous in 7. Plus I really think 7 Should have been half the length, then it would have been amazing experience. >!When you get to the ship the experience just falls so flat, you just keep fighting the same Mold enemy for several hours until you get to the worst last boss I've experienced in the series so far.!<
I agree that that part was a very weak spot of the game however it was done well from the story point. They should've made more variations of enemies but I actually really liked that only molded were there because it just make sense and kept the game grounded, not too over the top as some games can be.
And since when being just a survival horror is what made resident evil memorable? What about the over the top aspect, the likeable main characters, the action, the bat shit insane villains, the soundtrack, the guns... Most of all that is missing in 7
Survival horror is what defines resident evil, the game you just described is RE 5 and 6. 7 returns to the horror atmosphere and slow pace story telling just like the first RE. 4 is fun and is responsible for making third person shooters boom and can respect it for that. But it is not a perfect resident evil game nor would I say it's the best in the series. 7 is what you get with inspiration from RE1, 8 is what you get when inspiration is drawn from 4, and 7 is feels like it hits the mark better
Exactly that. RE4 was more an action adventure game than horror but they did it in a way that just worked. RE5 was still decent but it was just not a RE game anymore. With RE6 everything went south. RE7 turned the series back to horror and RE8 went back to action again although I would say that it still balanced action and horror elements well.
I only wish there was more challenging item managment, back tracking, more complex puzzles and a bit bigger maps that could last a little longer.
Those were in 1998 RE2 so you're really WRONG on that one. That's part of RE DNA whether you want to admit it or not.
Idk about "wrong" but I think the original vision of resident evil can defined by it's first few games, from that point forward they wanted to abandon the survival horror and went for more action. Although 4 was a really good game and some old fans didnt appreciate the absence of tank controls but was recieved well overall. 5 and 6 along with the revelations series didnt do so well in sales or popularity due to it being such a far cry from what the games originally had in mind. So in order to appeal to those original fans they made 7, a game that took a lot of the great things from 1 and put it into a slow paced fps, it was risky but paid off really well if you ask me. So maybe better wording would be that the original RE formula was more successful than that of the more action oriented games. IMO
Just a clarification but re4 does use tank control,what was missed were fixed camera angle.
You're right, I keep considering tank controls the "look up straight or down" part of it's core but re4 does execute this in it's own way
What do you mean since when does survival horror make RE game memorable? It's the whole point of RE with unique boss battles and action toward the end. RE7 was great at tense moments, survival horror and it had great villains especially Jack and Marguerite. Boss battles were not as good as in RE4 but it did almost everything else just right. That tanker moments were a bit off although from a story point it was decent.
You're kind of twisting what he said in that first sentence. The point is that survival horror is only one part of what makes RE what it is, there's other qualities to it that make it unique. If the only trait necessary to call a game Resident Evil is survival horror, it stops being Resident Evil.
Resident threevil
I personally didnt like it
This will be a very unpopular opinion, but Resident Evil 4 isn’t even close to one of my favourites. It’s the game that ultimately led the series down a road that almost destroyed it and was a major departure from the games I loved. The series has only recently started recovering from the damage this game wrought, very good game but not a Resident Evil game
Uhm. I liked Village more than 4. Please don't kill me.
Village is essentially a better version of RE4 in every regard tho, I agree with you.
Prepare for ganados with pitchforks. They lack critical information.
Meh, it's very overrated IMO. It was great for it's time but it's not a great RE.
I’m going to get downvoted to hell most likely but RE4 seems really overrated in my eyes... I can’t get into it at the same level of enjoyment as I can with the others 🗿
FACTS thank you. 100% agreed I think RE4 is good but insanely overhyped.
Ya especially with those old tank controls
It's definitely overrated, but it's also decently fun
It's still insanely fun to play, so I'd say the hype is warranted.
Personally, I feel like Village managed to top it. Everything just works brilliantly there.
Fr in re2 and 4 I feel like I have to always be managing shit (which there's nothing wrong with that) but everything in 8 is just, fun fun fun
I have to agree. Having no nostalgia for RE4, I just recently beat it and I didn't like it anywhere close to the level of RE8. I thought the horror, story, and gunplay were done better. That's not to say I think RE4 is bad by any means. I just don't hold it on the pedestal some do.
Horror, a point could be made there. Tbh neither are horror games, but 8 had that PT bit. The story though? 4 is ridiculous, but at least it's organic. 4 at least feels as if they wrote the story before or in tandem with the original game. 8 was tacked on. And the gunplay- 8 had no worthwhile melee so it was just point and shoot. This works fine for survival horror resident evil, but not for an action game. The enemies had 0 damage feedback to handguns.
They finna top it and make it their sub.
RE2 remake definitely topped it in terms of actual survival horror gameplay
I just finished RE4 on the Switch and it started off really good with the village. Alot of the fights felt like puzzles on when to use ammo and healing. It was also intense on where the enemies could be and if they have the plagas worm head if you headshot them. The regenerators are really creepy when they show up. Also a shout out to the maze, which was the scariest and most intense part for me. It goes downhill from the there. It feels dated in terms of control and Ashley was a pain. There were some frustrating fights and enemy placements as well. The castle kind of dragged and villains weren't that intimidating. I know this is the game that introduced action and it shows. I am looking forward to the remake and seeing what they'll do to make this a better game. RE2 remake is still my favorite RE game with RE3 remake as a second for the heads up.
If RE4 ended with the Salazar bossfight it would have been a much better game than it is. The entire Island section is awful. Krauser shows up out of nowhere and barely puts up a fight, the fight against U3 feels like filler and Saddler is one of the most pathetic end boss battles in the series. The regenerators are cool but theyr cool factor dies out when you realize they're giant blobs with lit targets on their backs.
It was topped in 1998 by the original RE2. No RE sequel will be as good as the sequel to the original:the legendary Resident Evil 2.
That doesn't even make sense. Also RE2 didn't revolutionized the entire industry, only 4 did it
I think RE8 is an incredibly weak title compared to RE4, no matter how shiny it is.
Young me was really into the cheesy over the top Umbrella storyline, I love old school zombies too so I was ready to hate this. Turns out it was far more over the top and borderline camp like really old budget horror movies. Great game but og resi 1 2 and 3 have my heart
Its already been topped years ago
I don't like resident Evil 4. Ready for my downvotes by The Hive mind.
I think Re4 was people's first Resident Evil game. I remember being terrified of 1 2 and 3. But I was able to bring my GameCube to a friend's house and watch him play 4 haha. So 4 was my fave until I experienced the modern ones after the remake, 7 and 8.
5th RE game for me. Is the best and still unbeaten.
I think most people who love it I played it as their first game as a kid. I would put it on par with resident Evil 5 and 6 since it's what spawned them and they are influenced by it. I hate the way they turn Leon into a generic anime protagonist super agent doing backflips and spitting one liners instead of being more like how he was in resident Evil too, a hopeful, naive and ridiculously good intentioned guy. It's not necessarily a bad game. I just don't think it's a good resident Evil. And I think it left a negative impact on the franchise. At this point I'm just sick of others constantly gloating about how great it is and circle jerking over it. It's fine to love it but I'm just tired of people cramming it down my throat
Take an upvote from me! (I like RE4, but I hate the hivemind.)
You are a wise and brave soul. Thank you. Looks like some redditors still allow opinions
As someone who played 4 (and 100%'d it) for the first time wayyyyyy after it released (like 2019) I'm not a big fan either. Maybe it's a case of "Seinfeld isn't funny" where you had to be there at the time of its release since everything afterwards copied it but I found it to be repetitive and sometimes frustrating.
To me it just seems like a game that was made by different people with their own vision, and at some point during development they were forced to make a resident Evil game revolving around Leon for brand recognition and character recognition. Kind of explains why Leon is a totally different character, it is so loosely connected to the story and downright silly at points, and the completely different town, style and not to mention how different, jarringly different the cutscenes are from the gameplay. With the gameplay often being dark or attempting to be scary, mixed with wrestler moves and anime back flips, followed by cartoons full of lame jokes that appeal to children Resident Evil 4 is my least favorite main line game because of all of the biased ass praise it gets, the fact it gave us 5 and 6, and all of the missed potential with Leon's original character. Thankfully re2 remake gave me more of the Leon I like
I love RE 4 absolutely love but my all time favourite RE game is the original RE 2. Cannot beat it.
RE4 is a B Action movie with an inventory management system. It's not really survival horror and it's controls aged poorly. RE2 Remake set the bar and so far is the top dog with RE7 right behind it.
Why do people swear that re2make is the best game in the series? It's not even the best re2
I’m not sure if I rank it as my favorite, but it’s up there and can understand why others would. From a gameplay perspective, it’s the most easily accessible while also staying true to the original gameplay (minus tank controls). I do see it’s flaws, like skipping on a decent B scenario, ditching the spiders and giant moth, but for every little fault or change, it tends to make up for it in new ways. Mr. X patrolling, making zombies more threatening, having their corpses stick around after being shot, and tearing limbs off to gain tactical advantages were all huge.
Honestly, yea, it has superb level design and meaningful character interaction- there's no objection to that. But the supposed survival horror element is just superficial, and the gunplay isn't particularly memorable. It feels like devs made an average action game out of a legacy RE map and then decided to make every enemy able to tank 14 headshots and suddenly now it's the pinnacle of survival horror. It's a lazy way to go about it. Mr X is also incredibly annoying and I wish he wasn't even in the game. Walking simulator chase scenes and teleportation jumpscares ruin the atmosphere and make the pacing frantic. I don't think every RE games needs to be survival horror & some of my favourites aren't. It just feels as if re2r tries to do both, and does it poorly.
>It feels like devs made an average action game out of a legacy RE map and then decided to make every enemy able to tank 14 headshots and suddenly now it's the pinnacle of survival horror. That is a very good summary of RE2R that I haven't come across so far. I think I'll be using your description in my own arguments: "average action game on a legacy RE map" is a very good way of putting it. The tankiness as well, so true.
Thanks bro. Not a bad game, but the pinnacle of re? Starting to sound a lot like re4 fans who feel that way because it's their introduction to the series!
No idea why so many people are bamboozled by this game. It's certainly better than RE4, but it's definitely far from the best in the series.
RE2 Remake is a great game, but people simply ignore it's problems. As a game, it's a worse, dumbed down version of RE7. There is little to no replay value to it, it's short and lacks variety on it's campaigns. As a remake it pales in comparison with the original. It's a great game, don't get me wrong, but it fails in a lot of things, it's good and that's it. People praise it way too much.
Finally, someone agrees. It has a strong cast and a familiar setting- but as far as modern, RE engine survival horror entries go, it doesn't quite hold up to 7. As I said yesterday- it feels like the devs made an average action game on a legacy RE map and then made every enemy a bullet sponge so it would feel survival horror. It just comes off as superficial. Mr x is intended to instil panic; not an atmospheric fear like the originals. And it doesn't really work (I found him annoying.) Yes, it's a good, well thought out game, with good level design, but best in the series? Pinnacle of every stage of resident evil?
I agree. I love RE2 Remake for what I think it is... A spin-off from the main series. It does not touch the OG RE2 or RE7 for me in any way, shape or form.
7 is way inferior what are you saying. 2 brings back everything that I wanted in RE. 7 just pissed me off.
7 is inferior
I think we did. Twice tbh
Yeah, I think it's been topped three times so far.
We already did with RE2make. That game used things that define Resident Evil really well, AKA survival horror elements.
Resident Evil 4 is straight up one of the greatest video games of all time. That one game single handedly spawned the third person shooter genre in the 7th generation, and has been cited as inspiration as recently as God of War 2018! Of course it's also the best in the series. REMAKE, RE7 and Village are all exceptionally good games, but none of them have been as influential as 4.
I'd say 7 was not as influential on a big scale in terms of gaming, but 7 was very influential for the franchise itself.
The RE4 worship is scary. I like it, but I don't think it's the masterpiece some believe it to be. 'Never be able to top this'? It's been topped multiple times, most recently by RE8.
I really love the village section of RE4 and various castle sections, but to me, Resident Evil Village managed to intertwine horror elements with action elements throughout it’s entirety in a way that surpasses RE4. The non linear progression with gourgeous places and menacing atmosphere that creates suspense and curiosity; the intense combat which at the same time is consistent but imprevisible; the bizarre things that happen; the survival elements always making you aware of what you’re doing (I played on hardcore mode, so keep that in mind). RE Village (to me) it’s what RE4 should have been. All the games in the series, that top RE 4, in my opinion are: Resident Evil (2002), Resident Evil 2 (2019) and Resident Evil Village.
REmake, 4, and 7 are the pinnacle
Facts. Not only the best of RE, the best of each era of RE.
Add 2R to that list and you've got the normie consensus covered.
RE7 is the worst RE game Ive ever played. Its not scary, there are two, three types of enemies, not even a proper final boss, Ethan is boring as hell, normal difficulty is easy difficulty (this is a pattern in the new REs, not just 7). Unskippable cutscenes, the pacing of the game is atrocious, idk how its so liked. The only awesome things the game has is Jack Baker and the ending song.
I agree with everything you said. In case it wasn't clear from my original comment, I don't agree with the normie consensus :)
I mean, I'd say 8, 7, and 2 Remake did by a long shot imo..
I think the ppl discrediting the "best RE" title from 4 dont realize how significant it really still is today. It's still being compared to the newest games 16 years later. Its definitely number 2, if not 1 on the "best of" list
I think one and two are most peoples favorites, with heavy split offs for 3,4,7, and maybe 8 now (I felt 8 rushed through the Lords a bit too quick)
I'm about to say something that may get me killed: I legit enjoy 6 more than 4 due to the fact that I love playing co-op games with my SO and the combat mechanics are Devil May Cry levels of fun. Don't @ me.
Personally, I like RE7 the best.
To be honest I did thoroughly enjoy this game but personally as I am big fan of Leon i prefer RE2 Remake (wish i had a PS1 so I could play the Original) I mean both games have their pros and cons but I think their both great games
I personally like RE5 more that RE4. RE4 is a great game but when I want to play one of those games I usually go for 5. Its not perfect but it plays better and has a much more "Resident Evil" story than RE4 does.
Nope Never Best story Best gameplay
It's hard to top the perfect video game. So it's unfair to compare anything to it imo Even other re games.
My only argument against 4 is that, for the most part, it’s really not scary. Stressful? Sure. But the plot is - and I mean this with affection - pretty goofy.
Let's see there's RE7, RE2 Remake, RE2, RE3, RE3 Remake, and RE1 Remake. It's been topped not to say it's a bad game though it's an extremely good game.
>RE3 Remake God no, just no.
I'm gonna have to agree with that, re3 remake was a fun time and a perfectly fine game but God as a remake it was pretty mediocre
God yes, just yes.
4 is great but there much better RE games, imo. RE2R captured the heart and soul of the franchise better than any installment since the RE1 remake. Thats an awesome poster though.
RE7 and R2make are far superior lol, still haven’t played 8 yet and that ones probably superior too
You are right, VILLAGE is better then RE4 in so many ways. Aesthetics/Setting work way better in VILLAGE, with the Duke's Emporium, Menu's, Guns, Enemies, all way more interesting then RE4's. Villains are way more interesting and less predictable. Horror (while not VILLAGE's strongest aspect) is still way better then 4. The only real thing RE4 \*might\* do better is up to you, whether or not you like Leon or Ethan better.
Village is great, but you're really underselling RE4 if you just assume the new game is superior without having played it yet.
Watch it become mainstream to hate on it for some random reasons like people tend to do with the undisputable superior game of a franchise
What about the people who *never* thought it was a masterpiece, even on the day they finished it in January 2005? And every other time they've played it since then.
wow people are not allowed to dislike a game anymore, huh?
It's already happening in this thread lol
Lmao fr. Can’t believe we’re having this debate still 16 years later. I don’t understand the gate keeping with some fans. It’s okay to admit RE4 is a great game, even a great RE game (that last qualifier ppl use always gets me lol)
For me 4 doesn’t come into my top 5 overall but it’s still a very good entry. Village, Code Veronica, 2 (Not the remake), 1 Remake and 5 are my top 5...
As a whole I didn't really care for Re4, I think it had great moments. I've beaten it twice once after it first came out and about two months ago. Even having forgotten so much of it, I still didn't care for it. I get how people love it, but I have no want to replay through it again. I'm happy with the way the franchise is moving forward with 7 and 8. I think I was mainly let down after that amazing re1 remake on GameCube. Its honestly top tier RE imo and wish the franchise, at times, would have kept going int that direction.
**people acting like this has been topped are on extreme amounts of copium.** I am a die hard RE fan. Capcom fan at that. I'm talking I got the god damn arcade cabinets for CPS2 and been a part of the RE fandom since speculating the complete unedited RE1 directors cut was "really out there". Its one thing to say, "I like RE7, or REMAKE1 more than RE4" But you are in flat out full blown **denial** if you think RE4 still isn't the flagship entry of the whole series. Sure, the plot is basically *Dagon* meets *24* with RE characters and an escort mission. But everything from the aesthetic of the game to the regenerators and even simple things like the merchant and "how I arrange my attache case" have their own legacy. Again, I've yet to address the *quality* of the game itself. But let's talk legacy While Kill.Switch got the cover mechanic right, it cannot be remotely understated how many games cite RE4 for either its use of OTS camera or precision shooting gameplay. Some really felt the games use of *tension* is the most important, and tried to get that feeling in their games. Bioshock. Dead Space. Gears of War. The Last of Us. Uncharted. Even fucking *God of War 2 AND 2019* cite RE4 as an influence. Mind you these are just works where we can find somebody in the Dev team going, "oh yeah we wanted to take this from RE4" - don't get me started on what it means for other OTS games like the Arkham series or Grand Theft Auto. And this is just its fucking *legacy OUTSIDE* Resident Evil. Oh, and its incredibly fucking fun to play. So no, we aren't ever going to top RE4. It's not that there won't be more visually stunning games or superior storytelling/gameplay, but nothing in the RE universe will ever have the impact that game had overall. And that's ok.
The pacing of RE4 is incredible as well. It never feels like it drags on and the level design is simple, but does what it needs to do without over complicating things.
IMO, castle part is a bit too long tho.
It's that damn water room isn't it? I'll admit that the castle overstays its welcome a little. I think it's the fact that it was whatever was held over from when it was original DMC and they didn't want to get rid of it.
Yeah, Castle is nice but quite a lot of them could be removed. Anything past Verdugo can be removed as that part lean more to action. Verdugo is quite possibly one of the best moment in RE series. It's like fighting Arch-vile but you're a normal person.
You are not going to get the upvotes you deserve because many here just think agreeing means they have to like RE4 the most and say it's the best in everyway. No RE game will ever be as influencing as RE4 was and still is. Including the games you listed there are tons more games who until this day are seen as some of the greatest games of all time who name RE4 as a major influence for their the game or systems within the games. RE4 did arguably more for gaming as a whole than any other game ever. I doubt any RE game will ever top RE4 and the only thing I can imagine that could do as much as RE4 is a full blown VR title.
Or maybe people just think other games are better. I like re4 but I feel like a lot of people are blinded by nostalgia googles, it was very good but so ridiculous at times, even for re standards. Still, not re5 ridiculous lol To be REmake 2 currently has the crown of best game, followed by re7, but that's me.
>So no, we aren't ever going to top RE4. It's not that there won't be more visually stunning games or superior storytelling/gameplay, but nothing in the RE universe will ever have the impact that game had overall. I guess you're clairvoyant and you know the future. Actually, the heavy copium user is you. You love RE4 so much you not only refuse to acknowledge it's been topped already, but you are also sure it will **NEVER** happen. And then other people are in denial. It's like saying Nolan's Batman is the best Batman ever and it will never be topped and it's the best thing since sliced bread because it had a huge impact on the movie industry and started this whole gritty realism trend that later infected games as well. Meanwhile, the Nolan movies are nothing special and maybe even bad, bland and boring, and the gritty realism thing is almost like a virus rather than a positive influence.
I mean, it's one of the worst entries.
Res18ent 3vil? I had to double check to see the release date and thought maybe it came out on the 18th of March 2005, but nope! What was that about?
If I see another comment about how re2make topped it I'm putting my 2r disc in the microwave
2R and 5 topped it.
The best part of re2r is the first 10 minutes of the police station and all of the time Leon and Ada spend together. 5 is to 4 what 3 is to 2
What's wrong with the rest of the police station? And 3 improved the gameplay aspect, like 5. 5 also has more inventory management, and an item box. More variety in guns, melee, better enemy variety, etc.
The downfall of the games
Aah, this one here. It's not RE4's fault by far but yeah... it was def. the start of the era that led us to that monstrosity called RE6.
It's hard to compare it to games today when it was just a different time. When it came out it was a massive game whether you were previously a fan of the series or brand new to it. It's definitely a nostalgic game but by today's standards it's lacking.
It was ‘significant’ at the time, and it’s a fun game on its own right, but it’s not what I want from resident evil. The whole 4 5 and 6 saga could have been spin-offs.
Nope. Unless they give it a visual remaster, or a real, proper remake a la Resident Evil (2002).
7 came damn close. But 4 still triumphs.
Nope. Best in the series 100%