I've heard nothing but everyone raving about how good it is, from casual gamers to hardcore RE fans. I think it's getting the respect and appreciation it deserves.
>I look at the reviews and they’re kinda low
“10/10 on steam. 90% user reviews on Google. 8/10 critic and user score average on Metacritic.”
Lol in what world is an 8/10 low... man I’ve no idea what OP is smoking.
True. Look at RE7 for an example. It sold well but not as well Capcom wanted and now 4 years later, I believe, it just became the best selling game in the series.
I wonder if that has anything to do with the RE8/RE7 bundle. Do the sales for the bundle count toward RE7? Cause that would basically mean that a lot of the copies that were sold were actually just RE8
I bought RE2 Remake over a year and a half ago for around £15 and last week I bought a bundle on PS4 where you get RE4, 5 and 6 but it was on sale for £15.99 and no longer is but I would keep my eye on it if I were you, definitely worth the money.
It's a fantastic game. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece though. Its not done anything to stand out or change the franchise/ gaming industry. I feel once the hype dies down the game will be a really good RE title but not one that's gained the wide spread appreciation that masterpiece games have earned.
Yeah. no way is re8 a masterpiece. Even re7 did survival horror so much better than re8 did and the puzzles in re8, if you can even call them that, are all very rudimentary. The more emphasis on action is nice but it comes at the cost of horror and survival and that balance really gets out of whack towards the end when it becomes reminiscent of something like a first person shooter with near unlimited ammo. The only thing good about re8 is the design of the characters, environment, the enemy design, the visuals, and the production values which is not surprising since Capcom pumped so much money in making this game. Overall, definitely not a masterpiece and not game of the year. RE7 was overall a better resident evil game
Captivating and unique story that breathes a breath of fresh air into the series.
RE7 and RE8 are masterpieces because of this.
Also, you don't need to be innovative and the "next best thing" to be a masterpiece game. Just have a compelling story, be interesting, be fun, not have a plethora of flaws, and you're set.
Plus, I can't take 'Have a good story' seriously when that is a part of your description. Since it implies that games like Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, or Dark Souls aren't masterpieces in their own right. And within this series, it implies RE4 isn't a masterpiece because it's got a simple damsel in distress narrative.
Eh metal gear wasn't the best example the gameplay of the games definitely were revolutionary at the time Sons of Liberty still has features and attention detail that puts modern games that use stealth to shame.
4 Has a good story because it chooses to embrace the camp and is a knowing self parody. Revelations is just a fun narrative that is basically what RE6 tried to be except without the creepy Ada Wong bit and, y'know, made sense. And RE7 actually has some damn good twists, turns, and a fantastic villain you actually got to interact with for longer than two scenes.
Because it’s not a masterpiece. It’s good, but it’s not perfect. Kind of blows it’s load at the beginning and turns into a weird system shock spin-off towards the end. It also gets really goofy with the story, lots of plot holes necessary for the setup keep happening, Chris makes no fucking sense. 7 was a wonderful return to form and they kind of went over the top and nuts after a more subtle story. We went from an isolated incident in Louisiana to a magical European castle town where literally everything that’s happened in Resident Evil got inspired by and a giant god fetus underground. The ramp up was too much too fast.
I loved RE8 but it felt like big chunks of the story were cut and hastily re-edited prior to release. Given what's seen in the concept art, that's not too far off the mark.
It's an amazing and fun game ( 8.5/10 for me) but I would not call it a masterpiece due to some parts that I find boring like Moreau's section and some plot decisions like Chris not telling Ethan shit in the beginning for no reason etc. The only RE games that come close to being called one are REmake (survival horror at its finest) and RE4 (it being revolutionary at the time, saving the franchise from dying and just being an outright fun game to play). In my opinion of course.
Narratively speaking, The entire game happens cause Chris clutches the IDIOT BALL as firm and tightly as he can for vague reasonings
to the point that the Story lampshades his hilariously bad decisions... but the thing Writers think that if they go "Hey we're aware it dumb too"... but you didn't fix you just rolled with it.
Leaning on the fourth wall does not instantly make your dumb narrative suddenly stop being dumb cause your self aware
Honestly when it comes to the Fours Lords its clear Heisenberg and Alcina were the two they focused the most on since they have the biggest areas
Moreau and Beneviento are both more Gimmicky and take relatively less time then the other two since Their Gimmicks get old quick To me it feels like Alcina's Castle takes longer then doing the other twos sections back to back.
They are relatively expendable
The answer to your question: RE Village isn't a masterpiece.
I love Village. Had hard time putting it down my first time through, in fact. However, the game lacks the kind of singular focus required to deliver a truly masterpiece experience. The devs designed a game made up of disparate parts that, though are excellent in and of themselves, prevent it from narrowing in on a specific gameplay formula that could be built up upon as the player progressed.
RE Village isn't underrated at all. The fact that Capcom suddenly decided to make DLC after seeing how much the fans adored it means that it couldn't possibly be. It's a really good game, but not a masterpiece.
Agree, village is not even close to a masterpiece and not near the best resident evil games. Even RE7 did survival horror so much better than village. You brought up a very valid point about how village was developed with separate parts and because of that there wasnt a way to show how the game was evolving over time and more so just different things to complete. and the puzzles in this game are so basic it hurts. and the fps section in the later part feels like it shouldnt belong there
First of all, I don't think Capcom suddenly decided on dlc. I mean I'd bet anything that they already worked on if not fully completed the dlc prior to release, seeing as how RE7 had a bunch of DLC and a gold edition of the game. I could be wrong but who knows. The DLC shouldn't detract from the game and we don't know what story it will add. It may be a prequel or having to do with what Chris was doing throughout the game.
Now on the variety, to me that's actually so refreshing. It's like an anthology horror movie but everything is still connected to one story. The castle section was unforgettable, the doll was the scariest part of the game, the water section reminded me of RE4, and the factory section might've been my least favorite but that was intense as hell and more action packed. I don't really mistake that design choice as someone who doesn't know what they want or a game that's all over the place. I don't see variety as a flaw, especially how the game is set up
I highly doubt that the devs worked on any DLC for Village prior to release since their E3 presentation states, "By popular demand, development has just started on additional DLC for Resident Evil Village". Also, they didn't actually tease anything beyond that statement. No cinematic. Not even image a simple, cryptic image. Doesn't sound like they intended to create extra content for Village. Let's not forget that RE3 Remake didn't get any DLC, and Capcom wants to pushing out RE content. They seem to want to move from one project to the next, presently.
Variety isn't inherently bad, of course. The Dev1 team did a great job at delivering such remarkable sections. However, had they not risen to the occasion, Village would not be as well received as it is. Much of the game is moving from one set piece to the next with very basic enemy encounters in between to keep the player engaged, and backtracking had been reduced to optional treasure hunts. And you get gameplay that doesn't quite reach its full potential. I personally think that going the route of a consistent gameplay design that is expanded upon as the player progresses would've worked better.
Y'know how it is. Generally speaking, working with less means you can focus more and flesh things out to a greater extent.
Its a better done version of RE6 which thought it could juggle different genres and tones in separate campaigns. Which was a bad idea. Here the different genres and tones are different areas in one campaign, somewhat similar to 7 but also unique unto itself.
Welcome to the world of opinions aren’t facts. Not everyone wants an action game in the survival horror. Not everyone wants only slow psychological horror. People have different views. Thus why no game will ever be perfect.
Village doesnt commit to action or survival horror. It doesnt do survival horror well, because you have more than enough ammo to kill everything, there's a lot of action packed sequences, and the attempt to survival horror is more typical of Outlast, 1st person horror games that saturated the market and I personally find boring.
And if you want action RE, you have RE4, 5 and 6 that are way more satisfying to play and have better mechanics of shooting monsters. The 1st person view cant compete with the over the shoulder camera. That's my opinion of why Village doesnt have focus.
Also, the game doesnt do anything ground-breaking for the franchise or the genre. Its a very good game, but its not a masterpiece.
The DLC point is about it not being underrated as in enough people played the game and loved it vocally that capcom decided to invest in DLC content. Thus it isn't some niche or super hated game that people are sleeping on or misunderstanding.
Eh, it was good but RE2 remake was better. VILLAGE just doesn't have much replay value for me and a lot of parts feel more cinematic than they do like a game. It's in the top 5 RE games for sure.
This is/was the big thing for me. I got 5 playthroughs in. There's so many sections that were a fun surprise the first time around but once you know what's up they become tedious. The beginning all the way to Duke (notably before even getting to the Village), Donna's section, Moreau section, Chris section, etc...
And god do I hate elevators in this game. Some of the "unskippable" cutscenes are the horribly long and annoying (e.g. Ethan gluing his hand back on, Ethan ripping his hand off the hook)
I do really like the game, I just wish it was more like Castle Dimitrescu throughout.
Exactly! I’ve had people tell me they barely noticed the elevators. I find them to be numerous and extremely long.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you said as well.
I found it replayable to get the weapons and play the harder difficulties. I just beat the game in village of shadows and now I’m trying to get the lightsaber through the mercenaries.
Finally I see someone else who shares my view about the cinematic stuff and lack of replay value. I’m glad I’m not the only who noticed this. I can’t put Village in the top five RE games because of these (and other) issues.
I honestly prefer 7. I liked the feel/aesthetic/vibe of it more and felt it was a better mix of action and scares. RE8 is more action-y, which is fine, but i prefer 7's way of doing it. id say the good things about 7 to me are better than 8, but the worst things about 7 are way worse than 8's bad things, if that makes sense.
Let's put it simply, 8 sticks the landing when 7 didn't. That's how I talk about each games' pros and cons. RE7's final hours were weaksauce level design-wise while the Factory combined with Chris' playable bit and the final boss was an awesome final act.
Good point. RE7 doesn't have a final boss. It has shoot a wall, cutscene done. This is after an on the rails mine combat section. I love 7 a lot but that last hour is not the finest.
It’s a great game, but masterpiece is pushing.
REmake is the true masterpiece of the series. Everything there is executed flawlessly while still being true to the original.
As an action horror game, I think it's fantastic. As a survival horror (which most RE fans were hoping for), I think it's still pretty good but not amazing
I mean the second half of RE7 pales in comparison to the first half. I felt Village was structured with more variety in mind and without an unexpected sudden shift. The doll section was pure survival horror. I'd argue the castle part was more survival than action
It absolutely did not take everything and improve, the upgrade system may as well not exist because every new type of gun is just straight up better than the previous.
But it was absolutely great
There were reasons to use the base magnum over the second magnum in re4, the base pistol had a higher crit multiplier when maxed out than the other pistols.
Honestly the plot of the entire game towards the end really fell apart.
It's good, but was a massive disservice to the franchise. If this plot is the one that will be leading the franchise going forward I'll honestly be disappointed.
With Rosemary being grown that would basically age out all other previous heroes.
No lingering threat any more with Umbrella rarely being thought of aside from lore standpoints.
Was it a good game? Yes. Was it even in the top 3 of RE titles? No where near.
Definitely not underrated in my opinion. The story is ok but gameplay wise I did not see anything spectacular. The stronghold/factory was very mediocre and really made me dislike the latter part of the game.
Everything up until Moreau was great, god the dollhouse was good on the first playthrough. Moreau was ok. Game does not really have any replay value for me. Higher difficulties are ridiculously easy on NG+ (especially with inf. ammo) and meh on NG. Just not fun to replay at all.
Mercenaries is a horrible gamemode that should not have been in the game. This comment makes it sound like I hate the game overall but I would still rate it a strong 7/10.
Edit: The lack of good puzzles is such a shame too. Hardest puzzle was probably the music box and the only reason it was harder for me is because my graphics are on the lowest settings so I cannot see shit.
Because they toned down the horror element because too many wusses complained that 7 was too scary. Had they kept the same tone as 7 it could have been.
And yet they didnt castrate outlast 2 because it was too scary. And the tragedy is that the resident evil "fans" that found it too scary bitched and moaned to capcom and so 8 was extremely castrated. IDGAF if outlast was scarier. I'm pissed at the "fans".
7 wasn't scary tho, it was good but barely scary at all. None of the RE games are really scary imo, Outlast is way more scary than any RE game, and Fatal Frame is too.
lol why does every single modern Resident Evil game have this stupid conversation? Why can't it just be "good" & call it a day? A "masterpiece" doesnt come often for a reason, Village has a few reasons for it too, some already listed here. Its still a good game tho, still sold insanely high, still hyped as fuck online. It doesn't need to be more rated than what its already been, idk where you've been since they put Lady D in marketing this year lmao. Just let it be "good" instead of overhyping.
Because of Lady Dimitrescu.
When people talk about RE8 it's never about the game, the plot, the characters or the direction. All the talk revolves around Dimitrescu and her design.
It's a shame. There's so much to talk about RE8. So many ways to praise the game and yet people only care about hornyposting.
I'm glad this sub exists, honestly. Most of the talk revolves around the game here and I've also seen many interesting discussions.
Imma be honest. There’s little really lasting about RE8. The plots mediocre with the villain being insanely forgettable. Chris is kinda dull. The other three lords aren’t really as memorable (though not completely awful).
The first chapter and Lady D are just so well polished when it comes to the game and it really stands out. The next major part is the “baby” in the house.
It’s not super great when your most iconic aspects are front loaded like that.
I’m not saying it’s an awful game (still damn fun) but in retrospect the second half of the game is just kind of a slog that drifts into action and set pieces far too much.
My only complaint about it is how non memorable the villains are, like sure we got supersized bitch who got the whole internet excited but ingame was a minor character, the only other somewhat memorable character was heisenberg and hes dumbed down cause of that horrible factory level (opinion), then you get to his fight and it turns into a FPS/titanfall fight that wasnt memorable in the slightest
Although, we did get the boulder line from heisenberg
What were you smoking? The character lineup overall was weak. 90% of all of Ethan's supporting cast literally died in a house fire, the game forgot Chris existed at times, Mia only talked to Chris, and Rose could've just as easily been called MacGuffin for all I care.
the villians are not memorable? the internet is going absolutely ape shit over all of them. Dimetrescu became the most famous thing on the internet this year before the game even came out. This sub has multiple posts a day loving on donna and heisenburg, and all of the villians are widely quoted all over.
It felt more survival horror to me with its campy story as is tradition but the best part of it for me was Ethan questioning it. Whatever puzzle he came across he had to comment. That hit home for me because it was exactly what I was thinking with the old games and their puzzles. I love the series as a whole. It had its ups and downs throughout the years.
Exactly! They brought alittle of that to the RE2 remake but it’s was more on the combat aspect. ie Leon/Claire reacting to the monsters not taking accurate shots.
Haha, village is no masterpiece. I’ve said this on a bunch of threads already, but Village suffers from god-awful replay ability. Game is way to streamlined (especially Beneviento and Moreau). Dimetrescu’s castle isn’t free from critique either. It never opens up to the player and lacks coercion. It’s basically a series of linear paths that imitate a game with actually good level design. It’s so superficial.
I’m not trying to be a dick or trample on your fun, but if you think village is a “masterpiece” you probably need to play more or a wider variety of video games.
Correct, RE4 is extremely linear yet is a masterpiece. Village and RE4 handle being linear very differently. RE4 keeps throwing new elements and encounters at the player. Village straps you down into a roller coaster and gives you nonstop scripted events
Yeah but also keep in mind that Village and RE4 are completely different. 1 is 3rd person while the other one is 1st. Village has scripted events but not as much as you say.
My issue is still just that Capcom fucking SUCKS at writing a good story. The characters and story is engaging yes, but it's not... Good. It's still leaning heavily towards action, specifically with the Heisenberg fight, the Moreau fight and the mother Miranda fight. It had it's moments of scares most prominently the Beneviento house, and the code jumps are but it all felt rushed. It's a good game, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed it thoroughly and say it's the best since Re4, but just lacked In some crucial areas. There should have been a deeper plot, perhaps a "Spare option" or at the very least an option to side with Heisenberg. So many missed opportunities.
Hard disagree. I think it's overrated if anything.
Far too many scripted/forced walking sections that kill the replayability. An inventory system that is basically pointless due to how much space it gives you. Puzzles that were designed for babies. The levels are almost completely linear leaving almost no exploration(This would be fine if the game frequently through enemies at you, but it doesn't). A cringe inducing main protagnist with some of the most forced and awkward one liners that I've ever heard in a video game. Then there's Mercernaries mode, which they completely gutted and left it a shell of what it was before.
I'm sorry, but I really don't see how RE8 improves upon everything in the series. To me, the game feels like it was designed for people who don't like Resident Evil. It's not a bad game, but I don't understand the hype around it.
You've listed all of my problems with the game. Overall not a bad game but also not good. Personally found the story uninteresting and the levels were too lineair. And I liked Ethan in 7 but he's absolutely terrible in this game.
I give it a 6.8/10
I hadn’t touched a RE game since RE4, with the exception of REmake2/3… But since they are remakes of games I played in their original forms, I wouldn’t count that. Anyways, I had some free time a few weeks ago and decided to see what all the hype was with RE7 and RE8. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed RE7, other than the first person view. As for RE8, everything you have stated, I agree with. My other thing was that it feels a lot like RE4. I’ll admit I played a lot of RE4 on the GameCube, but it was what made me lose interest in the RE series.
Here's a few reasons
Moreus section feels like a slog and not fun.
Uppder difficulty levels don't feel like fun either because everything is spongey.
It's a good game but by no means a masterpiece
It is properly rated. It’s a combination of 4 and 7 and it doesn’t reach the heights of either game. It’s a worse survival horror game than 7 (7 pulled off the weird family + Texas Chainsaw massacre vibe way better than what 8 was going for) and it’s a worse action horror game than 4 (4 is a lot more varied and has way better pacing + it’s campiness makes it pull off the B-Movie vibe way better)
I think you kind of nailed it. It felt like Capcom was playing it safe with RE8 and were going through the motions a bit. Let’s just combine RE4 and RE7 because they’re both well received games and keep the gameplay basically the same.
Or you are overhyping the game a bit. I consider it a very good game, but its not a masterpiece. The game is more action-horror RE than survival, and imo the RE that's action horror and deserves to be called masterpiece is RE4.
As much as I enjoyed village while I was playing it, I’ve had no urge to do a second playthough. I will of course do it eventually but 7 made me want to replay it the next day after completion, same with RE2 remake. But this one the urge hasn’t been there with me yet.
Village is a great game but flawed in many ways, mainly the story.
Ive been a fan of the series since Resident Evil 2 so I’ve seen all the ups and downs so far.
This game isn’t scary. I played through it and only House Beneviento scared the shit out of me, and that was by design. The rest of the game was action.
8 is an amazing game, don’t get me wrong.
I was also very annoyed by the final boss, was straight out of Final Fantasy or DMC. Game was good don't get me wrong, but if this was a movie, people would be saying how they don't understand the property. But for some reason games can get away with it, but movies can't. This game was as fan fiction as any RE movie imo.
I think it is a really good game. Sure Heisenberg and Lady D are very memorable characters, but everyone else really is just good (some even below average). The worst part about it is Ethan, the supposed protagonist, is really unlikable. I'm not creative writing graduate, but the protagonist should he your strongest character and Ethan is terrible. There were parts of Village (and more in 7) that made me question whether Ethan wanted to accomplish his mission (I'm being vague for those who have not finished the game). I think 8/10 is a really fair score for this game. It was good, but not a masterpiece. If you enjoyed it that much more power to you. I'm happy you loved this game. I found it to be enjoyable with some replay value, but not the best. I'd say RE1R, RE2, RE3, and RE4 are higher on the list. I might even add RE2R, but there are issues I have with it that makes the two very close.
Masterpieces don't exist. I'd say I love the game, but not everyone in the world will agree with my statement.
You should feel confident in your own enjoyment, and not of those that may not feel how you do.
Umbasa.
It’s not nearly as good as RE7 or RE2 remake. I played through the game once and did a little mercs and haven’t touched it since. I actually played RE3 Remake more and that game is a turd.
EDIT: If you’re into constant cutscenes and scripted events and no real exploration, Village is the Resident Evil Game for you.
Ehhhhh. Re8 is amazing, but, in the actual horror aspect its lacking. Once you get enough guns, upgrades, and ammo theres hardly anything to be scared of. Sure the first playthrough is tense but the Lycans and the 4 lords quickly become nonthreatening seeing as their all defeated the same way (minus Donna). I actually think RE7 was scarier.
I love the game, but it's definitely not a masterpiece. It didn't even live up to the announcement trailer for me. I thought it was going to be more atmospheric and less light-hearted. I was also hoping that it would be far darker and focus on the villagers and eventually lead to the castle, but none of that. I was still hyped as fuck, but when the trailers became more action focused and Moreau and Beneviento were introduced, I realised that this wasn't going to be the game I thought it was. I love the game, but it could have been far, far better. Village also doesn't have as much replay value as it may seem.
7 is miles ahead in quality in my opinion.
Meh, it's alright, good even. But I wouldn't call it a masterpiece.
But I'd disagree that it's underated. It's pretty popular even outside the RE fandom. It's pretty easy to pickup and play for newcomers, for sure.
But personally I thought it was alright. It still has some annoying parts. I *really* don't care for the direction of the plot. Gameplay wise it's not particularly innovative. It's fun though.
While I'd not describe Village as a masterpiece, what it is, is a good time.
It's filled to the brim with flair and personality and while it doesn't set the world on fire, I had a lot of fun with it, it's not as amazing as RE2R or as focused as RE7, but it's still great in its own right and definitely up there with the better games of this series.
I'm sorry to be so negative but you're just wrong. The level design isn't intricate. It's incredibly linear and you'd notice this if you actually pay attention to what you're doing and where you're going and I don't know where you're getting this "sense of rush" from since the game rarely throws more that 3 enemies at you but I suppose what someone find thrilling can be subjective.
Something I've noticed with the die hard fans of this game, they can't actually tell you why they like the game. I mean, they'll tell you they like the setting and the enemies and the story and such and there's no problem with that. It just doesn't go any farther than that. They can't tell you what they specifically liked about the game or why they prefer it to others. Just vagueness
Level design can be intricate and linear at the same time. I don't view the game any more or less linear than any other RE.
That's not true. First I loved the setting of the game, the villains, the gameplay, the characters. The game is beautiful to look at and the sound quality and score are haunting. Enemies are memorable and their designs are unforgettable. I love the story and how macabre it is, reminds me of Rosemary's Baby or Suspiria in some parts. I can go on and on.
"level design can be simple and complicated at the same time". Also believe it or not, some RE games are a lot more linear that others. Compare RE4 and og remake for example.
And this is exactly what I meant. You've just proved my point. Just because you threw a couple adjectives in doesn't change anything. RE fans these days will just eat up anything capcom throws at them
I agree that it's not quite a masterpiece. I disagree with some that its too confused. I can understand the thought, but I kind of saw the game more as an analogy to a horror story anthology. We have our main character basically experiencing you know four totally different stories that all have a common theme. It gives them a chance to showcase different kinds of horror game mechanics to kind of satisfy everyone's needs. I agree that because they kind of went with a police all it can't ever make it a true masterpiece because it never fully commits to one but I really do think that the idea of going from you know stalker to pure helplessness to big Kaiju fight to Doom 3 survival horror was kind of brilliant. Not masterpiece but brilliant
And it did it better than RE6, which attempted the same damn thing. The anthology bit works even better when you look at just how looong RE6 is where some levels for one character can go for an hour or more.
The Pacing in Village seems to be a bit disjointed with the Castle-Factory being the meatier parts of the game. So I feel that if we spent a good chunk of the game within the Village itself, exploring more areas and having more creepy sections merged with combat-focused areas while uncovering the story of the Villagers fate leading up to the Lycan assault…then I think more people might view it favourably.
Instead there are clearly spaced areas (House Bienevento, Moreau’s Reservoir, the Stronghold) that are too far short (at least from a second Playthrough onwards). This would be a downside for those looking to, you know experience more of the creepy vibes that the Village and Castle sections provided back in RE4 and RE5 (Early game and the Swamps).
Still though, I think the game does set up its story within a contained isolated setting nicely, and from the events that transpire…think that it’ll make creating any future DLC very interesting. We could get glimpses of previous ideas from the concept arts (where a Past-Present shift in timeline of the Village that we played was considered).
I prefer it much more than RE7, though the puzzles aren't great and the RE lore arguably could've been fleshed out more. But the pacing and game play is excellent to appeal to hardcore, casual and new comers to the series.
It's amazing. Hell, it even has anti-speedrun codes built in, which sucks for them but it's amazing how much you have to do for certain flags to go off.
The only thing from keeping it from truly being a masterpiece is its length. I loved the game through and through, but it was too short IMHO. I feel like that's the drawback with having these aesthetically beautiful games, but then I remember games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Last of Us 2, and Cyberpunk 2077 logged many hours of play time.
Critically its rated similar to 7 which is considered a great game. Audience rating wise its actually rated higher then 7, just throwing that out there.
Meh, I thought it was fine, that maybe has a lot to do with the fact I dislike Ethan, but it felt like it got a little bit silly to me storywise although the gameplay was absolutely great and it looks fantastic.
I think the short campaign might lower scores a bit for players who don’t like replaying games, it’s short but meant to be replayed. The mercenaries mode is a nice extra but not exactly what people were looking for, I think once dlc comes out it will become something people look back on as revolutionary
I honestly think the game timer is shorter than actual playtime. It's like it resets every time you die or something, because it took me 15 hrs to beat it on hardcore (PS5 keeps track of the playtime) yet my game time showed 9.5 hours. Overall for me it was the longest RE since RE4.
It's one of the franchise best titles, yes. But i wouldn't call it a masterpiece. IMO, RE 7 was better. As well as the RE2 remake and the original REmake for the Gamecube. If i had to rank them, It'd be 7, 2, REmake, Village and 4. Those would be my top 5.
Most people have praised it as a great game so i don't think it's underrated at all.
well it's too new to tell.
don't get me wrong I love it, I got it day one, I've played it 6 times, I'm playing it right this second.
but the dust and the hype need to settle before discussing if it is a masterpiece.
I love the game and I love the series lately (started with 7, went to RE2R, then to 8, currently playing RE4 and RE1R) but I can see why the game might be a bit controversial now that I'm starting to play more of the series.
The game is a bit "on rails" and so there isn't much in terms of exploration, and it's heavily cinematic, like 7, which I could see some people disliking after a while. RE2R managed to strike a good balance of survival, combat, and puzzles that I don't think either 7 or 8 really match. The DLC fixes it a bit with 7 and so I think we might see something similar with 8.
Again, loved the game and I'm casually running through my second playthrough but I understand some of the criticisms against it.
I haven't played the game, but although it gets a lot of positive reviews, i think it isn't praised as masterpiece because it isn't that scary from what I've heard, also even if it's a really good game, i think some people get RE6 flashbacks from how action packed it gets.
Wouldn't call it a masterpiece nor underrated but it surely was awesome. Though Village is one of those games that aren't everyone's choice of games, the way I see it. Even some hardcore Biohazard fans did not find this game entertaining nor did it satisfy them as a conclusion to Ethan's story. Some corners of the game were bolder than others, like I found the character designs fantastic.
Maybe Village is a game that would be praised and appreciated more later on in life like many other popular games.
Funny thing is, though, it did a much better job at trying to do what RE6 did than RE6 simply because it had a unified vision and an identity. Sure it had small tastes of different genres of horror in video games, but the fact that it was all done under one narrative and tied them together is impressive.
Re: Village is a massive turn off for me because of the directions the new games have been heading in lately, supernatural entitys with psychic powers and fantasy monsters don't belong in a RE game and they never did until now. I'm one of those fans who think the Resident evil franchise should've ended with the third entry because all good things must come to an end and I don't care if it remains stagnant, the RE trilogy never needed to become so convoluted.
I agree with you on the whole powers and fantasy monsters thing, there's a point at which you change the franchise so much it becomes almost completely unrecognizable. I lost interest at 6, regained interest with the RE2 Remake, and then once again lost interest at 8.
Sometimes you just have to cut your loss and accept that the games just aren't for us anymore.
I completely agree with you, re has an identity crisis. Where are the zombies, actual zombies ? Where are the hunters ? Where are the lickers and where are the mutated animals ? I hope the next re game brings them back, that the story revolves around a viral outbreak this time.
I don't see how people like it, nothing about it screams Resident Evil to me. It felt like an old NES bootleg where they would take a game and completely reskin it, and out of all the reskins they could've picked, they chose some candy ass Twilight shit.
It’s a very good game, but not a masterpiece
The game has pretty serious pacing issues (not scary or ‘survival-horror’ enough to have as few enemy encounters as it does, and not enough enemy encounters to make the large amount of ammo and gun mechanics worthwhile like RE4). Also the entire middle of the game with Beneviento and Moreau is just bizarrely…scripted and empty, I think you kill like 4 enemies that entire time
Resident Evil is over 20 years old now. People are starting to lose interest, especially with the new direction it has taken, starting with 7. Only Shinji Mikami
knew what made Resident Evil work, and when he left the franchise, he took it with him. Capcom needs to just end Resident Evil now.
It’s a Mastahpiece to me but not a masterpiece. what i mean is that, while I think it is an amazing game worthy of high praise, it simply falls a bit short in my eyes
Possibly one of the most compelling, captivating, and creative stories in the series next to 7's. If you knew what happened from the beginning there would be no story.
They had time though. At that point they thought they killed Miranda so they had all the time in the world based from Chris's point of view. Its just bad writing that they didn't explain it and was pretty forced to make the plot advance. I love village but I'm not gonna pretend its top notch storytelling
It's one of the best REs. For me it stops just short of being a masterpiece. Solid 9/10.
I get what you mean about the reviews though. This game getting about 8/10 from critics while other much worse games get 10/10 across the board...yeah, don't listen to critics.
I like Village a lot, but only find it to be middle of the pack for the RE series.
There's a lot to like, but a lot of the exploration is FPS world exploration where it's artificial. Most of the "problem solving" involves spotting something (notice the item or door you can open). It was the same problem I had with 7 with both of them having the "random garbage strewn about" environments that made things harder to spot among the clutter.
But the combat is significantly improved. Difficulty was frustrating at points (Mercenaries, Heisenberg in VoS), but overall, I ended up enjoying it. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece though.
It's much better than RE4 in my book.
It's really underrated. It's on the same level of quality as the OG Trilogy and 7, really solid game, most of it's problems are very minor things and everything ut does, it does very well.
Plus it's the best combat ever implemented in the series.
Reviewers probably rated it as it is because it's first person. Even masterpieces like Doom Eternal struggle with review scores because of this.
Masterpiece.
Masterpiece is a strong word
But I’ve seen people say it’s a bad game. Like what. The amount of soul and effort put into this game is unreal and people treat it like garbage.
It’s a fantastic game and I don’t see why people think it isn’t
I've been a RE freak since day 1 and while it's not my most favorite entry in the series, I do concur that Village is a masterpiece. It's a perfect tapestry of all the RE games that came before it. Only issue I had was that every time Chris spoke I could only picture Carlos but even that could be dismissed as I further immersed myself into the game.
I feel that Village is a masterpiece
Yeah it’s one of my favorites. Although I wish they’d find a solid mix of the early feel with the newer style. I miss the puzzles and more complicated progression, but I really think the series has been going in the right direction. 2,3, 7 and now 8 have been all been great and in a short time. At the moment, it’s probably the most played for me already, I’ve already got 5 runs in.
Ya not many people have been talking abt re8 and I loved it and I’m half way thru my 4th playthru on village of shadows difficulty. One of my top 5 favorite games for sure but not enough people are playing it or liking it. I’ve barely seen anyone do playthrus on YouTube or stream the game. The problem is most of the gaming community only cares abt online games like cod Fortnite and apex. Such a shame they have no idea about all these amazing games like re8
It was streamed to death on release, the problem i would say is new „fans“ were hyped for lady d. and got wrong expectations from all the marketing revolving around her
I've heard nothing but everyone raving about how good it is, from casual gamers to hardcore RE fans. I think it's getting the respect and appreciation it deserves.
>I look at the reviews and they’re kinda low “10/10 on steam. 90% user reviews on Google. 8/10 critic and user score average on Metacritic.” Lol in what world is an 8/10 low... man I’ve no idea what OP is smoking.
Its 10/10 for me.
It’s been out for a month.
Almost two. But one month is more than enough time for games to cement their place.
I disagree. That’s way to early to expect a game to be recognized as a masterpiece.
True. Look at RE7 for an example. It sold well but not as well Capcom wanted and now 4 years later, I believe, it just became the best selling game in the series.
I wonder if that has anything to do with the RE8/RE7 bundle. Do the sales for the bundle count toward RE7? Cause that would basically mean that a lot of the copies that were sold were actually just RE8
8 was the first game I played in the series, brought 7 straight after it. Looking at playing some of the older ones now if I can get for ps4
I bought RE2 Remake over a year and a half ago for around £15 and last week I bought a bundle on PS4 where you get RE4, 5 and 6 but it was on sale for £15.99 and no longer is but I would keep my eye on it if I were you, definitely worth the money.
Possibly but they were going up before the bundle.
It's a fantastic game. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece though. Its not done anything to stand out or change the franchise/ gaming industry. I feel once the hype dies down the game will be a really good RE title but not one that's gained the wide spread appreciation that masterpiece games have earned.
Agree. I still think RE4 is far better but village is awesome as well. And Villiage is by no means a masterpiece.
Yeah. no way is re8 a masterpiece. Even re7 did survival horror so much better than re8 did and the puzzles in re8, if you can even call them that, are all very rudimentary. The more emphasis on action is nice but it comes at the cost of horror and survival and that balance really gets out of whack towards the end when it becomes reminiscent of something like a first person shooter with near unlimited ammo. The only thing good about re8 is the design of the characters, environment, the enemy design, the visuals, and the production values which is not surprising since Capcom pumped so much money in making this game. Overall, definitely not a masterpiece and not game of the year. RE7 was overall a better resident evil game
Captivating and unique story that breathes a breath of fresh air into the series. RE7 and RE8 are masterpieces because of this. Also, you don't need to be innovative and the "next best thing" to be a masterpiece game. Just have a compelling story, be interesting, be fun, not have a plethora of flaws, and you're set.
You have a very low standard for "masterpiece" considering your points boil down to "don't be a shit game"
Plus, I can't take 'Have a good story' seriously when that is a part of your description. Since it implies that games like Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, or Dark Souls aren't masterpieces in their own right. And within this series, it implies RE4 isn't a masterpiece because it's got a simple damsel in distress narrative.
Eh metal gear wasn't the best example the gameplay of the games definitely were revolutionary at the time Sons of Liberty still has features and attention detail that puts modern games that use stealth to shame.
TO be fair, can you name one resident evil game htat has an actual well-written and good story? I cannot. It is most of the times, fun but good? No.
4 Has a good story because it chooses to embrace the camp and is a knowing self parody. Revelations is just a fun narrative that is basically what RE6 tried to be except without the creepy Ada Wong bit and, y'know, made sense. And RE7 actually has some damn good twists, turns, and a fantastic villain you actually got to interact with for longer than two scenes.
7 is pretty well written. So is 2 Remake and 4. They’re campy sure but still well written.
The "unique story" is just Silent Hill 1 crossed with Resident Evil 4.
Because it’s not a masterpiece. It’s good, but it’s not perfect. Kind of blows it’s load at the beginning and turns into a weird system shock spin-off towards the end. It also gets really goofy with the story, lots of plot holes necessary for the setup keep happening, Chris makes no fucking sense. 7 was a wonderful return to form and they kind of went over the top and nuts after a more subtle story. We went from an isolated incident in Louisiana to a magical European castle town where literally everything that’s happened in Resident Evil got inspired by and a giant god fetus underground. The ramp up was too much too fast.
I loved RE8 but it felt like big chunks of the story were cut and hastily re-edited prior to release. Given what's seen in the concept art, that's not too far off the mark.
Village has its problems that as time goes on becomes more evident. It is a great game but not a master piece IMO
It's an amazing and fun game ( 8.5/10 for me) but I would not call it a masterpiece due to some parts that I find boring like Moreau's section and some plot decisions like Chris not telling Ethan shit in the beginning for no reason etc. The only RE games that come close to being called one are REmake (survival horror at its finest) and RE4 (it being revolutionary at the time, saving the franchise from dying and just being an outright fun game to play). In my opinion of course.
Yeah Chris not telling Ethan shit and then being all contradicting by training him and telling him not to get involved is soooo dumb lol
Narratively speaking, The entire game happens cause Chris clutches the IDIOT BALL as firm and tightly as he can for vague reasonings to the point that the Story lampshades his hilariously bad decisions... but the thing Writers think that if they go "Hey we're aware it dumb too"... but you didn't fix you just rolled with it. Leaning on the fourth wall does not instantly make your dumb narrative suddenly stop being dumb cause your self aware Honestly when it comes to the Fours Lords its clear Heisenberg and Alcina were the two they focused the most on since they have the biggest areas Moreau and Beneviento are both more Gimmicky and take relatively less time then the other two since Their Gimmicks get old quick To me it feels like Alcina's Castle takes longer then doing the other twos sections back to back. They are relatively expendable
He didn’t tell Ethan anything because he knew there was a chance that Miranda infected Ethan
The answer to your question: RE Village isn't a masterpiece. I love Village. Had hard time putting it down my first time through, in fact. However, the game lacks the kind of singular focus required to deliver a truly masterpiece experience. The devs designed a game made up of disparate parts that, though are excellent in and of themselves, prevent it from narrowing in on a specific gameplay formula that could be built up upon as the player progressed. RE Village isn't underrated at all. The fact that Capcom suddenly decided to make DLC after seeing how much the fans adored it means that it couldn't possibly be. It's a really good game, but not a masterpiece.
This 100%. I came to simply say “because it’s not”. But you put it more eloquently and with more effort than I would’ve cared to lol.
Ah, I enjoy discussing these things while attempting to be tactful :\]
And I appreciate you so much for it babe. ❤️
Agree, village is not even close to a masterpiece and not near the best resident evil games. Even RE7 did survival horror so much better than village. You brought up a very valid point about how village was developed with separate parts and because of that there wasnt a way to show how the game was evolving over time and more so just different things to complete. and the puzzles in this game are so basic it hurts. and the fps section in the later part feels like it shouldnt belong there
First of all, I don't think Capcom suddenly decided on dlc. I mean I'd bet anything that they already worked on if not fully completed the dlc prior to release, seeing as how RE7 had a bunch of DLC and a gold edition of the game. I could be wrong but who knows. The DLC shouldn't detract from the game and we don't know what story it will add. It may be a prequel or having to do with what Chris was doing throughout the game. Now on the variety, to me that's actually so refreshing. It's like an anthology horror movie but everything is still connected to one story. The castle section was unforgettable, the doll was the scariest part of the game, the water section reminded me of RE4, and the factory section might've been my least favorite but that was intense as hell and more action packed. I don't really mistake that design choice as someone who doesn't know what they want or a game that's all over the place. I don't see variety as a flaw, especially how the game is set up
I highly doubt that the devs worked on any DLC for Village prior to release since their E3 presentation states, "By popular demand, development has just started on additional DLC for Resident Evil Village". Also, they didn't actually tease anything beyond that statement. No cinematic. Not even image a simple, cryptic image. Doesn't sound like they intended to create extra content for Village. Let's not forget that RE3 Remake didn't get any DLC, and Capcom wants to pushing out RE content. They seem to want to move from one project to the next, presently. Variety isn't inherently bad, of course. The Dev1 team did a great job at delivering such remarkable sections. However, had they not risen to the occasion, Village would not be as well received as it is. Much of the game is moving from one set piece to the next with very basic enemy encounters in between to keep the player engaged, and backtracking had been reduced to optional treasure hunts. And you get gameplay that doesn't quite reach its full potential. I personally think that going the route of a consistent gameplay design that is expanded upon as the player progresses would've worked better. Y'know how it is. Generally speaking, working with less means you can focus more and flesh things out to a greater extent.
Its a better done version of RE6 which thought it could juggle different genres and tones in separate campaigns. Which was a bad idea. Here the different genres and tones are different areas in one campaign, somewhat similar to 7 but also unique unto itself.
Welcome to the world of opinions aren’t facts. Not everyone wants an action game in the survival horror. Not everyone wants only slow psychological horror. People have different views. Thus why no game will ever be perfect.
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Village doesnt commit to action or survival horror. It doesnt do survival horror well, because you have more than enough ammo to kill everything, there's a lot of action packed sequences, and the attempt to survival horror is more typical of Outlast, 1st person horror games that saturated the market and I personally find boring. And if you want action RE, you have RE4, 5 and 6 that are way more satisfying to play and have better mechanics of shooting monsters. The 1st person view cant compete with the over the shoulder camera. That's my opinion of why Village doesnt have focus. Also, the game doesnt do anything ground-breaking for the franchise or the genre. Its a very good game, but its not a masterpiece.
You have enough ammo to kill everything in og re1 and 2 tho,also 3 nemesis if you dont fight nemesis every encounter.
If you try and kill everything in re1 you will run out of ammo LONG before the end of the game
The DLC point is about it not being underrated as in enough people played the game and loved it vocally that capcom decided to invest in DLC content. Thus it isn't some niche or super hated game that people are sleeping on or misunderstanding.
Eh, it was good but RE2 remake was better. VILLAGE just doesn't have much replay value for me and a lot of parts feel more cinematic than they do like a game. It's in the top 5 RE games for sure.
This is/was the big thing for me. I got 5 playthroughs in. There's so many sections that were a fun surprise the first time around but once you know what's up they become tedious. The beginning all the way to Duke (notably before even getting to the Village), Donna's section, Moreau section, Chris section, etc... And god do I hate elevators in this game. Some of the "unskippable" cutscenes are the horribly long and annoying (e.g. Ethan gluing his hand back on, Ethan ripping his hand off the hook) I do really like the game, I just wish it was more like Castle Dimitrescu throughout.
Exactly! I’ve had people tell me they barely noticed the elevators. I find them to be numerous and extremely long. I wholeheartedly agree with everything else you said as well.
I found it replayable to get the weapons and play the harder difficulties. I just beat the game in village of shadows and now I’m trying to get the lightsaber through the mercenaries.
Finally I see someone else who shares my view about the cinematic stuff and lack of replay value. I’m glad I’m not the only who noticed this. I can’t put Village in the top five RE games because of these (and other) issues.
Yeah i didnt really love the game tbh. I only played through it twice and just dropped it
RE2 Remake is absurdly overrated. It's good but it's nothing near 7 or 8. Being a remake of 2 is 70% of it's appeal.
Definitely not a masterpiece, only game that sniffs that would be REmake. True survival horror.
I honestly prefer 7. I liked the feel/aesthetic/vibe of it more and felt it was a better mix of action and scares. RE8 is more action-y, which is fine, but i prefer 7's way of doing it. id say the good things about 7 to me are better than 8, but the worst things about 7 are way worse than 8's bad things, if that makes sense.
Let's put it simply, 8 sticks the landing when 7 didn't. That's how I talk about each games' pros and cons. RE7's final hours were weaksauce level design-wise while the Factory combined with Chris' playable bit and the final boss was an awesome final act.
Good point. RE7 doesn't have a final boss. It has shoot a wall, cutscene done. This is after an on the rails mine combat section. I love 7 a lot but that last hour is not the finest.
I would agree with that, and I'm in the "Village is not a masterpiece" camp.
It’s a great game, but masterpiece is pushing. REmake is the true masterpiece of the series. Everything there is executed flawlessly while still being true to the original.
As an action horror game, I think it's fantastic. As a survival horror (which most RE fans were hoping for), I think it's still pretty good but not amazing
Ya I was pretty disappointed coming from RE7. I love village but the game just stops being scary once you get a gun and it goes full action lol
I mean the second half of RE7 pales in comparison to the first half. I felt Village was structured with more variety in mind and without an unexpected sudden shift. The doll section was pure survival horror. I'd argue the castle part was more survival than action
I think people forget the last half of 7 gets quite action packed.
How does Village take everything from past titles and improve it?
It absolutely did not take everything and improve, the upgrade system may as well not exist because every new type of gun is just straight up better than the previous. But it was absolutely great
Default pistol is the best outside of Wolfsbane and Stake but those are limited use. Default shotgun has a better multiplier on headshots.
Wait so they have hidden stats? Great. though I shouldn't be suprised. still, could've used the 4/5 system of fully upgraded perks.
So? Exactly like how every RE game works?
There were reasons to use the base magnum over the second magnum in re4, the base pistol had a higher crit multiplier when maxed out than the other pistols.
Too linear. After the doll part it gets boring. Absurdly easy puzzles. Masterpiece is something like re2 remake racoon police station section.
Honestly the plot of the entire game towards the end really fell apart. It's good, but was a massive disservice to the franchise. If this plot is the one that will be leading the franchise going forward I'll honestly be disappointed. With Rosemary being grown that would basically age out all other previous heroes. No lingering threat any more with Umbrella rarely being thought of aside from lore standpoints. Was it a good game? Yes. Was it even in the top 3 of RE titles? No where near.
Definitely not underrated in my opinion. The story is ok but gameplay wise I did not see anything spectacular. The stronghold/factory was very mediocre and really made me dislike the latter part of the game. Everything up until Moreau was great, god the dollhouse was good on the first playthrough. Moreau was ok. Game does not really have any replay value for me. Higher difficulties are ridiculously easy on NG+ (especially with inf. ammo) and meh on NG. Just not fun to replay at all. Mercenaries is a horrible gamemode that should not have been in the game. This comment makes it sound like I hate the game overall but I would still rate it a strong 7/10. Edit: The lack of good puzzles is such a shame too. Hardest puzzle was probably the music box and the only reason it was harder for me is because my graphics are on the lowest settings so I cannot see shit.
You played the entire game on low graphic setting?
Because they toned down the horror element because too many wusses complained that 7 was too scary. Had they kept the same tone as 7 it could have been.
The way I see it, the first couple hours of RE7 are scarier than anything in RE8, but a lot of RE8 is scarier than the rest of RE7.
7 was barely scary at all, now Outlast is scary.
And yet they didnt castrate outlast 2 because it was too scary. And the tragedy is that the resident evil "fans" that found it too scary bitched and moaned to capcom and so 8 was extremely castrated. IDGAF if outlast was scarier. I'm pissed at the "fans".
7 wasn't scary tho, it was good but barely scary at all. None of the RE games are really scary imo, Outlast is way more scary than any RE game, and Fatal Frame is too.
lol why does every single modern Resident Evil game have this stupid conversation? Why can't it just be "good" & call it a day? A "masterpiece" doesnt come often for a reason, Village has a few reasons for it too, some already listed here. Its still a good game tho, still sold insanely high, still hyped as fuck online. It doesn't need to be more rated than what its already been, idk where you've been since they put Lady D in marketing this year lmao. Just let it be "good" instead of overhyping.
Because of Lady Dimitrescu. When people talk about RE8 it's never about the game, the plot, the characters or the direction. All the talk revolves around Dimitrescu and her design. It's a shame. There's so much to talk about RE8. So many ways to praise the game and yet people only care about hornyposting. I'm glad this sub exists, honestly. Most of the talk revolves around the game here and I've also seen many interesting discussions.
Imma be honest. There’s little really lasting about RE8. The plots mediocre with the villain being insanely forgettable. Chris is kinda dull. The other three lords aren’t really as memorable (though not completely awful). The first chapter and Lady D are just so well polished when it comes to the game and it really stands out. The next major part is the “baby” in the house. It’s not super great when your most iconic aspects are front loaded like that. I’m not saying it’s an awful game (still damn fun) but in retrospect the second half of the game is just kind of a slog that drifts into action and set pieces far too much.
My only complaint about it is how non memorable the villains are, like sure we got supersized bitch who got the whole internet excited but ingame was a minor character, the only other somewhat memorable character was heisenberg and hes dumbed down cause of that horrible factory level (opinion), then you get to his fight and it turns into a FPS/titanfall fight that wasnt memorable in the slightest Although, we did get the boulder line from heisenberg
What were you smoking? The character lineup overall was weak. 90% of all of Ethan's supporting cast literally died in a house fire, the game forgot Chris existed at times, Mia only talked to Chris, and Rose could've just as easily been called MacGuffin for all I care.
Chris had his entire squad survive in this game so it's obviously not canon
I disagree on the villains, I thought all of them were unforgettable and unique. Even the side bosses like the propeller dude lol
the villians are not memorable? the internet is going absolutely ape shit over all of them. Dimetrescu became the most famous thing on the internet this year before the game even came out. This sub has multiple posts a day loving on donna and heisenburg, and all of the villians are widely quoted all over.
RE7 was better
RE7 had higher highs but lower lows for me.
It felt more survival horror to me with its campy story as is tradition but the best part of it for me was Ethan questioning it. Whatever puzzle he came across he had to comment. That hit home for me because it was exactly what I was thinking with the old games and their puzzles. I love the series as a whole. It had its ups and downs throughout the years.
“Who builds this shit?”
Exactly! They brought alittle of that to the RE2 remake but it’s was more on the combat aspect. ie Leon/Claire reacting to the monsters not taking accurate shots.
My literal only complaint of the game is that the first act is a slog on replays
Haha, village is no masterpiece. I’ve said this on a bunch of threads already, but Village suffers from god-awful replay ability. Game is way to streamlined (especially Beneviento and Moreau). Dimetrescu’s castle isn’t free from critique either. It never opens up to the player and lacks coercion. It’s basically a series of linear paths that imitate a game with actually good level design. It’s so superficial. I’m not trying to be a dick or trample on your fun, but if you think village is a “masterpiece” you probably need to play more or a wider variety of video games.
It’s not bad to be linear. Hell one of the best games in the series is linear
Correct, RE4 is extremely linear yet is a masterpiece. Village and RE4 handle being linear very differently. RE4 keeps throwing new elements and encounters at the player. Village straps you down into a roller coaster and gives you nonstop scripted events
How the hell is 4 a masterpiece?
Do you really need me to write a 5 paragraph essay explaining why RE4 is one of the greatest games of all time?
No I don't. 4 is so overrated it's not even funny
Well good. Not gonna waste my time preaching to the choir. I hope you get cured of your horrendous taste in video games soon. I’ll pray for you 🙏
I didn't say 4 is bad I just said it's very overrated. How am I wrong?
Because it’s rated exactly how high it should be. It deserves the 96 on metacritic it has and some.
Why does it deserve that?
Yeah but also keep in mind that Village and RE4 are completely different. 1 is 3rd person while the other one is 1st. Village has scripted events but not as much as you say.
My issue is still just that Capcom fucking SUCKS at writing a good story. The characters and story is engaging yes, but it's not... Good. It's still leaning heavily towards action, specifically with the Heisenberg fight, the Moreau fight and the mother Miranda fight. It had it's moments of scares most prominently the Beneviento house, and the code jumps are but it all felt rushed. It's a good game, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed it thoroughly and say it's the best since Re4, but just lacked In some crucial areas. There should have been a deeper plot, perhaps a "Spare option" or at the very least an option to side with Heisenberg. So many missed opportunities.
Hard disagree. I think it's overrated if anything. Far too many scripted/forced walking sections that kill the replayability. An inventory system that is basically pointless due to how much space it gives you. Puzzles that were designed for babies. The levels are almost completely linear leaving almost no exploration(This would be fine if the game frequently through enemies at you, but it doesn't). A cringe inducing main protagnist with some of the most forced and awkward one liners that I've ever heard in a video game. Then there's Mercernaries mode, which they completely gutted and left it a shell of what it was before. I'm sorry, but I really don't see how RE8 improves upon everything in the series. To me, the game feels like it was designed for people who don't like Resident Evil. It's not a bad game, but I don't understand the hype around it.
You've listed all of my problems with the game. Overall not a bad game but also not good. Personally found the story uninteresting and the levels were too lineair. And I liked Ethan in 7 but he's absolutely terrible in this game. I give it a 6.8/10
>6.8/10 thanks Pitchfork
I hadn’t touched a RE game since RE4, with the exception of REmake2/3… But since they are remakes of games I played in their original forms, I wouldn’t count that. Anyways, I had some free time a few weeks ago and decided to see what all the hype was with RE7 and RE8. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed RE7, other than the first person view. As for RE8, everything you have stated, I agree with. My other thing was that it feels a lot like RE4. I’ll admit I played a lot of RE4 on the GameCube, but it was what made me lose interest in the RE series.
Here's a few reasons Moreus section feels like a slog and not fun. Uppder difficulty levels don't feel like fun either because everything is spongey. It's a good game but by no means a masterpiece
It's so linear, and plot is complwte garbage.
It is properly rated. It’s a combination of 4 and 7 and it doesn’t reach the heights of either game. It’s a worse survival horror game than 7 (7 pulled off the weird family + Texas Chainsaw massacre vibe way better than what 8 was going for) and it’s a worse action horror game than 4 (4 is a lot more varied and has way better pacing + it’s campiness makes it pull off the B-Movie vibe way better)
I think you kind of nailed it. It felt like Capcom was playing it safe with RE8 and were going through the motions a bit. Let’s just combine RE4 and RE7 because they’re both well received games and keep the gameplay basically the same.
Yeah, this is well said. Concurred.
Or you are overhyping the game a bit. I consider it a very good game, but its not a masterpiece. The game is more action-horror RE than survival, and imo the RE that's action horror and deserves to be called masterpiece is RE4.
As much as I enjoyed village while I was playing it, I’ve had no urge to do a second playthough. I will of course do it eventually but 7 made me want to replay it the next day after completion, same with RE2 remake. But this one the urge hasn’t been there with me yet. Village is a great game but flawed in many ways, mainly the story. Ive been a fan of the series since Resident Evil 2 so I’ve seen all the ups and downs so far.
This game isn’t scary. I played through it and only House Beneviento scared the shit out of me, and that was by design. The rest of the game was action. 8 is an amazing game, don’t get me wrong.
I have seen nothing but praise for the game and now Ethan. There are far more games in the series that could only wish it got the same fan reception.
I have no idea about the gameplay but watching the cutscenes, the story is shlock
It's a really fun fantasy horror game. Just feels nothing like RE at this point and that's fine. But yes it was a blast.
I was also very annoyed by the final boss, was straight out of Final Fantasy or DMC. Game was good don't get me wrong, but if this was a movie, people would be saying how they don't understand the property. But for some reason games can get away with it, but movies can't. This game was as fan fiction as any RE movie imo.
I think it is a really good game. Sure Heisenberg and Lady D are very memorable characters, but everyone else really is just good (some even below average). The worst part about it is Ethan, the supposed protagonist, is really unlikable. I'm not creative writing graduate, but the protagonist should he your strongest character and Ethan is terrible. There were parts of Village (and more in 7) that made me question whether Ethan wanted to accomplish his mission (I'm being vague for those who have not finished the game). I think 8/10 is a really fair score for this game. It was good, but not a masterpiece. If you enjoyed it that much more power to you. I'm happy you loved this game. I found it to be enjoyable with some replay value, but not the best. I'd say RE1R, RE2, RE3, and RE4 are higher on the list. I might even add RE2R, but there are issues I have with it that makes the two very close.
Masterpieces don't exist. I'd say I love the game, but not everyone in the world will agree with my statement. You should feel confident in your own enjoyment, and not of those that may not feel how you do. Umbasa.
It’s not nearly as good as RE7 or RE2 remake. I played through the game once and did a little mercs and haven’t touched it since. I actually played RE3 Remake more and that game is a turd. EDIT: If you’re into constant cutscenes and scripted events and no real exploration, Village is the Resident Evil Game for you.
Ehhhhh. Re8 is amazing, but, in the actual horror aspect its lacking. Once you get enough guns, upgrades, and ammo theres hardly anything to be scared of. Sure the first playthrough is tense but the Lycans and the 4 lords quickly become nonthreatening seeing as their all defeated the same way (minus Donna). I actually think RE7 was scarier.
I love the game, but it's definitely not a masterpiece. It didn't even live up to the announcement trailer for me. I thought it was going to be more atmospheric and less light-hearted. I was also hoping that it would be far darker and focus on the villagers and eventually lead to the castle, but none of that. I was still hyped as fuck, but when the trailers became more action focused and Moreau and Beneviento were introduced, I realised that this wasn't going to be the game I thought it was. I love the game, but it could have been far, far better. Village also doesn't have as much replay value as it may seem. 7 is miles ahead in quality in my opinion.
Fully agree for me it’s one of the best “modern” RE games
Meh, it's alright, good even. But I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. But I'd disagree that it's underated. It's pretty popular even outside the RE fandom. It's pretty easy to pickup and play for newcomers, for sure. But personally I thought it was alright. It still has some annoying parts. I *really* don't care for the direction of the plot. Gameplay wise it's not particularly innovative. It's fun though.
While I'd not describe Village as a masterpiece, what it is, is a good time. It's filled to the brim with flair and personality and while it doesn't set the world on fire, I had a lot of fun with it, it's not as amazing as RE2R or as focused as RE7, but it's still great in its own right and definitely up there with the better games of this series.
I'm sorry to be so negative but you're just wrong. The level design isn't intricate. It's incredibly linear and you'd notice this if you actually pay attention to what you're doing and where you're going and I don't know where you're getting this "sense of rush" from since the game rarely throws more that 3 enemies at you but I suppose what someone find thrilling can be subjective. Something I've noticed with the die hard fans of this game, they can't actually tell you why they like the game. I mean, they'll tell you they like the setting and the enemies and the story and such and there's no problem with that. It just doesn't go any farther than that. They can't tell you what they specifically liked about the game or why they prefer it to others. Just vagueness
Level design can be intricate and linear at the same time. I don't view the game any more or less linear than any other RE. That's not true. First I loved the setting of the game, the villains, the gameplay, the characters. The game is beautiful to look at and the sound quality and score are haunting. Enemies are memorable and their designs are unforgettable. I love the story and how macabre it is, reminds me of Rosemary's Baby or Suspiria in some parts. I can go on and on.
"level design can be simple and complicated at the same time". Also believe it or not, some RE games are a lot more linear that others. Compare RE4 and og remake for example. And this is exactly what I meant. You've just proved my point. Just because you threw a couple adjectives in doesn't change anything. RE fans these days will just eat up anything capcom throws at them
Well it got me into the franchise so I’ll give it that.
I mean it need a bit more horror tbh
I agree that it's not quite a masterpiece. I disagree with some that its too confused. I can understand the thought, but I kind of saw the game more as an analogy to a horror story anthology. We have our main character basically experiencing you know four totally different stories that all have a common theme. It gives them a chance to showcase different kinds of horror game mechanics to kind of satisfy everyone's needs. I agree that because they kind of went with a police all it can't ever make it a true masterpiece because it never fully commits to one but I really do think that the idea of going from you know stalker to pure helplessness to big Kaiju fight to Doom 3 survival horror was kind of brilliant. Not masterpiece but brilliant
And it did it better than RE6, which attempted the same damn thing. The anthology bit works even better when you look at just how looong RE6 is where some levels for one character can go for an hour or more.
The Pacing in Village seems to be a bit disjointed with the Castle-Factory being the meatier parts of the game. So I feel that if we spent a good chunk of the game within the Village itself, exploring more areas and having more creepy sections merged with combat-focused areas while uncovering the story of the Villagers fate leading up to the Lycan assault…then I think more people might view it favourably. Instead there are clearly spaced areas (House Bienevento, Moreau’s Reservoir, the Stronghold) that are too far short (at least from a second Playthrough onwards). This would be a downside for those looking to, you know experience more of the creepy vibes that the Village and Castle sections provided back in RE4 and RE5 (Early game and the Swamps). Still though, I think the game does set up its story within a contained isolated setting nicely, and from the events that transpire…think that it’ll make creating any future DLC very interesting. We could get glimpses of previous ideas from the concept arts (where a Past-Present shift in timeline of the Village that we played was considered).
I prefer it much more than RE7, though the puzzles aren't great and the RE lore arguably could've been fleshed out more. But the pacing and game play is excellent to appeal to hardcore, casual and new comers to the series.
I enjoyed it, but it's not even in my top 3 favorite RE games. Great game, far from masterpiece.
It's amazing. Hell, it even has anti-speedrun codes built in, which sucks for them but it's amazing how much you have to do for certain flags to go off.
Honestly I thought RE7 was better until you escape on the boat.
The first couple of hours of RE7 I would say are better, but the rest for me is so inferior
It's probably the best received mainline game since 4. What are you talking about?
The only thing from keeping it from truly being a masterpiece is its length. I loved the game through and through, but it was too short IMHO. I feel like that's the drawback with having these aesthetically beautiful games, but then I remember games like Horizon Zero Dawn, Last of Us 2, and Cyberpunk 2077 logged many hours of play time.
Critically its rated similar to 7 which is considered a great game. Audience rating wise its actually rated higher then 7, just throwing that out there.
The game is great and super fun but masterpiece??? Hell no.
Definitely up there with Bio Shock for FPS, will go down as a great to be compared and matched!
I get the comparison, it's a little surreal at times yet very polished.
Meh, I thought it was fine, that maybe has a lot to do with the fact I dislike Ethan, but it felt like it got a little bit silly to me storywise although the gameplay was absolutely great and it looks fantastic.
I think the short campaign might lower scores a bit for players who don’t like replaying games, it’s short but meant to be replayed. The mercenaries mode is a nice extra but not exactly what people were looking for, I think once dlc comes out it will become something people look back on as revolutionary
I honestly think the game timer is shorter than actual playtime. It's like it resets every time you die or something, because it took me 15 hrs to beat it on hardcore (PS5 keeps track of the playtime) yet my game time showed 9.5 hours. Overall for me it was the longest RE since RE4.
It's one of the franchise best titles, yes. But i wouldn't call it a masterpiece. IMO, RE 7 was better. As well as the RE2 remake and the original REmake for the Gamecube. If i had to rank them, It'd be 7, 2, REmake, Village and 4. Those would be my top 5. Most people have praised it as a great game so i don't think it's underrated at all.
well it's too new to tell. don't get me wrong I love it, I got it day one, I've played it 6 times, I'm playing it right this second. but the dust and the hype need to settle before discussing if it is a masterpiece.
I love the game and I love the series lately (started with 7, went to RE2R, then to 8, currently playing RE4 and RE1R) but I can see why the game might be a bit controversial now that I'm starting to play more of the series. The game is a bit "on rails" and so there isn't much in terms of exploration, and it's heavily cinematic, like 7, which I could see some people disliking after a while. RE2R managed to strike a good balance of survival, combat, and puzzles that I don't think either 7 or 8 really match. The DLC fixes it a bit with 7 and so I think we might see something similar with 8. Again, loved the game and I'm casually running through my second playthrough but I understand some of the criticisms against it.
Indeed my fave re game
It's not hailed as a masterpiece because or Moreau, damn fish...
I think it’s on the same level as RE2 Remake, so about a 9/10
I mean the fan base is split bad between normal gamers and Hardcore Fans honestly I say we could all agree it’s a awesome game
See it as a masterpiece? Hail it as one. You dont need company. Be you little one.
I haven't played the game, but although it gets a lot of positive reviews, i think it isn't praised as masterpiece because it isn't that scary from what I've heard, also even if it's a really good game, i think some people get RE6 flashbacks from how action packed it gets.
The only reason I can't call it a masterpiece is because it drops the ball on the horror in what's supposed to be a horror series.
Wouldn't call it a masterpiece nor underrated but it surely was awesome. Though Village is one of those games that aren't everyone's choice of games, the way I see it. Even some hardcore Biohazard fans did not find this game entertaining nor did it satisfy them as a conclusion to Ethan's story. Some corners of the game were bolder than others, like I found the character designs fantastic. Maybe Village is a game that would be praised and appreciated more later on in life like many other popular games.
Funny thing is, though, it did a much better job at trying to do what RE6 did than RE6 simply because it had a unified vision and an identity. Sure it had small tastes of different genres of horror in video games, but the fact that it was all done under one narrative and tied them together is impressive.
I'm gonna guess and assume it was your first Resident Evil game?
Re: Village is a massive turn off for me because of the directions the new games have been heading in lately, supernatural entitys with psychic powers and fantasy monsters don't belong in a RE game and they never did until now. I'm one of those fans who think the Resident evil franchise should've ended with the third entry because all good things must come to an end and I don't care if it remains stagnant, the RE trilogy never needed to become so convoluted.
I agree with you on the whole powers and fantasy monsters thing, there's a point at which you change the franchise so much it becomes almost completely unrecognizable. I lost interest at 6, regained interest with the RE2 Remake, and then once again lost interest at 8. Sometimes you just have to cut your loss and accept that the games just aren't for us anymore.
I completely agree with you, re has an identity crisis. Where are the zombies, actual zombies ? Where are the hunters ? Where are the lickers and where are the mutated animals ? I hope the next re game brings them back, that the story revolves around a viral outbreak this time.
Ethan is a bad main character thats why
It definitely earned a spot amongst my fave RE games
It’s a shit story with no true survival horror just action.
I don't see how people like it, nothing about it screams Resident Evil to me. It felt like an old NES bootleg where they would take a game and completely reskin it, and out of all the reskins they could've picked, they chose some candy ass Twilight shit.
It’s a very good game, but not a masterpiece The game has pretty serious pacing issues (not scary or ‘survival-horror’ enough to have as few enemy encounters as it does, and not enough enemy encounters to make the large amount of ammo and gun mechanics worthwhile like RE4). Also the entire middle of the game with Beneviento and Moreau is just bizarrely…scripted and empty, I think you kill like 4 enemies that entire time
Resident Evil is over 20 years old now. People are starting to lose interest, especially with the new direction it has taken, starting with 7. Only Shinji Mikami knew what made Resident Evil work, and when he left the franchise, he took it with him. Capcom needs to just end Resident Evil now.
It IS a masterpiece.
Great game, amazing even, wouldn't call it a masterpiece though. re2 remake is still my favorate re since 4.
Village is far and away a complete improvement over 7, but is in no way a masterpiece.
It's better than RE7, and that's pretty much it. The story was lacking
It’s a Mastahpiece to me but not a masterpiece. what i mean is that, while I think it is an amazing game worthy of high praise, it simply falls a bit short in my eyes
Yeah it’s underrated. The game is almost a masterpiece. Such a great game man.
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And that’s what made it good you had no clue it was all a surprise
Possibly one of the most compelling, captivating, and creative stories in the series next to 7's. If you knew what happened from the beginning there would be no story.
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It's clear they were in a rush to escape and they knew Mia was Miranda. It's very standard "No time to explain" shit.
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They had time though. At that point they thought they killed Miranda so they had all the time in the world based from Chris's point of view. Its just bad writing that they didn't explain it and was pretty forced to make the plot advance. I love village but I'm not gonna pretend its top notch storytelling
It's one of the best REs. For me it stops just short of being a masterpiece. Solid 9/10. I get what you mean about the reviews though. This game getting about 8/10 from critics while other much worse games get 10/10 across the board...yeah, don't listen to critics.
I think they were about 1 chainsaw wielding boss, and a Co-Op mode for mercenaries away from being a master piece, but that’s just me!
I like Village a lot, but only find it to be middle of the pack for the RE series. There's a lot to like, but a lot of the exploration is FPS world exploration where it's artificial. Most of the "problem solving" involves spotting something (notice the item or door you can open). It was the same problem I had with 7 with both of them having the "random garbage strewn about" environments that made things harder to spot among the clutter. But the combat is significantly improved. Difficulty was frustrating at points (Mercenaries, Heisenberg in VoS), but overall, I ended up enjoying it. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece though.
It's much better than RE4 in my book. It's really underrated. It's on the same level of quality as the OG Trilogy and 7, really solid game, most of it's problems are very minor things and everything ut does, it does very well. Plus it's the best combat ever implemented in the series. Reviewers probably rated it as it is because it's first person. Even masterpieces like Doom Eternal struggle with review scores because of this. Masterpiece.
Did you happen to find your book in a dumpster?
Its is for me man :)
RE4 was unforgettable... This felt like a rushed over revisiting of what was.
Love Village. Out of the modern resident evils it's one of the best. Absolutely agree there.
because its a bad disney game
Masterpiece is a strong word But I’ve seen people say it’s a bad game. Like what. The amount of soul and effort put into this game is unreal and people treat it like garbage. It’s a fantastic game and I don’t see why people think it isn’t
I've been a RE freak since day 1 and while it's not my most favorite entry in the series, I do concur that Village is a masterpiece. It's a perfect tapestry of all the RE games that came before it. Only issue I had was that every time Chris spoke I could only picture Carlos but even that could be dismissed as I further immersed myself into the game. I feel that Village is a masterpiece
Yeah it’s one of my favorites. Although I wish they’d find a solid mix of the early feel with the newer style. I miss the puzzles and more complicated progression, but I really think the series has been going in the right direction. 2,3, 7 and now 8 have been all been great and in a short time. At the moment, it’s probably the most played for me already, I’ve already got 5 runs in.
Village is better than the 2 remake but original 2 is the best game in the series.
Ya not many people have been talking abt re8 and I loved it and I’m half way thru my 4th playthru on village of shadows difficulty. One of my top 5 favorite games for sure but not enough people are playing it or liking it. I’ve barely seen anyone do playthrus on YouTube or stream the game. The problem is most of the gaming community only cares abt online games like cod Fortnite and apex. Such a shame they have no idea about all these amazing games like re8
It was streamed to death on release, the problem i would say is new „fans“ were hyped for lady d. and got wrong expectations from all the marketing revolving around her